Circuit of Ireland Rally 2015

[Barreis]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=20140&s=83583&t=Circuit-of-Ireland-2015

[Jarek Z]

So where is Bergkvist on SS2? He gave interview at the finish but isn´t in result?

He is simply too fast for the stopwatch! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bergqvist now splits the Peugeot 208s of Armstrong & Ingram after SS3... nice close battle.

And Armstrong is ahead of Jeets' R5 !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Think I'll start supporting the Modern Tyres team of Alastair Fisher ! ;)

EDIT - Fisher crashed out on SS3.. crew ok, car not too bad but out for today. Maybe his thoughts were elsewhere...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBqlZhhWIAAEjGT.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ERC drivers vs National leader (Boyle)

13 ERC cars quicker on SS1

1 ERC car (Breen) quicker on SS2

Boyle faster than Breen on SS3 !

[Tom206wrc]

Breen with power engine problem on SS4 :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Oh no, Consani ;(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Consani - was going well in the new car... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBrP3lXUkAE5zes.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen still leading despite boost issue on the 208...

Extended his lead after SS5. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBrGpONUMAAQGBE.jpg:large

[Ounin]

My god Bergkvist is blindingly fast on tarmac !

[Jarek Z]

Shame for Consani - was going well in the new car... :(

Yes, it's a shame. I was impressed with his stage times. Very good times for the first time in a new car...

[Filip]

Average speed on ss5 147.28 km/h ?? Is that stage really that fast or some kind of mistake?

[RICARDO75]

Average speed on ss5 147.28 km/h ?? Is that stage really that fast or some kind of mistake?

on ss5?
There's problem with oficial online times.
- 2 minutes

[Jarek Z]

Where are the stage times from SS5?

[EightGear]

Here http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=20140&Circuit-of-Ireland-2015

[Jarek Z]

Thank you! Great times from Breen and Kajto! :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Times with Splits: http://www.rallyscore.net/263/Circuit-of-Ireland-2015-Circuit-of-Ireland-International/# plus National times.

[Jarek Z]

Gino Bux out of the rally:

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/20140_cbqhakrwaaa8awt.jpg

[Mirek]

Just "climbed" down from Kaprun glacier to follow the action in Northern Ireland. I feel sorry for Consani, he was doing great job. Also pity we lost Fisher. Otherwise it's nice to see so many locals on top! Juniors are mad as always :p And finally from a Czech point of view I'm happy with times of Tarabus. I really like this guy and he is doing well in his first Irish start :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Five Irish drivers in the Top 6 now... who said the local drivers are slow here ? ;)

[N.O.T]

Five Irish drivers in the Top 6 now... who said the local drivers are slow here ? ;)

given the pathetic international competition it was expected....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

After SS6
1 C Breen
2 R Barrable +10.9
3 K Kajetanowicz +29.2
4 J Moffett +41.8
5 S Moffett +55.8
6 S Wright +1'07.9

Live stream of SS7/8 - http://www.circuitofireland.tv/

[Nornbugger]

ERC drivers vs National leader (Boyle)

13 ERC cars quicker on SS1

1 ERC car (Breen) quicker on SS2

Boyle faster than Breen on SS3 !

Nonsence to compare times, high wind emat roads were drying fast but showers meant they often got wet again, road conditions were changing all the time and to compare cars running over an hour apart means nothing today.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen only 5th on SS7... lost 5.6s to Kajto !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nonsence to compare times, high wind emat roads were drying fast but showers meant they often got wet again, road conditions were changing all the time and to compare cars running over an hour apart means nothing today.

Your welcome.

Didnt comment just stating the facts.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen losing even more time on the second run...

[WUff1]

Lukyanuk with steep learning curve on tarmac showing great times now.

[JHvP]

Interesting, how much time did Lukjanuk, Tarabus and Kajto gain on local drivers on just 3.06 km!

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Mattias Adielsson in SS5 :confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gutted the Porsche died after the start of the stage... :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What happened to Mattias Adielsson in SS5 :confused:

3. 04. 2015 15:56 1 (29 - Adielsson Mattias / Bäck Christoffer): problems with engine

Penalty SS 3 TC 3 00:00:10.0 Jump start

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBr_LyPW8AE2xyj.jpg:large

[garais22]

Where can be found all results?
There is results for only 11 drivers..
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=20140&s=83589&t=Circuit-of-Ireland-2015

The same here
http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/29

[Mirek]

Interesting, how much time did Lukjanuk, Tarabus and Kajto gain on local drivers on just 3.06 km!

It's not that special. The city stage requires no knowledge of local conditions etc. It's quite common phenomena that foreign drivers are very fast on such stages but don't keep the pace on the real stages. Those city stages are usually purely about driving skills but in the real stages it's more about pacenotes, experience etc.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Where can be found all results?
There is results for only 11 drivers..
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=20140&s=83589&t=Circuit-of-Ireland-2015

The same here
http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/29

http://www.rallyscore.net/264/Circuit-of-Ireland-2015-Circuit-of-Ireland-National/#

[JHvP]

It's not that special. The city stage requires no knowledge of local conditions etc. It's quite common phenomena that foreign drivers are very fast on such stages but don't keep the pace on the real stages. Those city stages are usually purely about driving skills but in the real stages it's more about pacenotes, experience etc.

This is exactly what I did want to point.

[Tom206wrc]

3. 04. 2015 15:56 1 (29 - Adielsson Mattias / Bäck Christoffer): problems with engine

Penalty SS 3 TC 3 00:00:10.0 Jump start


So among the Juniors: Tannert, Adielsson, Klausz and Zawada are out now :(

[Nornbugger]

It's not that special. The city stage requires no knowledge of local conditions etc. It's quite common phenomena that foreign drivers are very fast on such stages but don't keep the pace on the real stages. Those city stages are usually purely about driving skills but in the real stages it's more about pacenotes, experience etc.

Stages like these are rare here, are they common on European events? I wish we had more of them and certainly drivers like Breen really can have no excuse for not having made it their business to learn how to be faster on them.

It's a shame Woodsides Porsche broke as his autotest experience should have been good for him here, certainly he did well on it last year in the EVO 10

[Barreis]

3h15 min are online...
http://www.circuitofireland.tv/

[N.O.T]

why doesn't eurosport offer whole stages onboard ? even those incompetent people over at WRC.com do that... pathetic.

[Jarek Z]

Stages like these are rare here, are they common on European events?

Yes, I would say that city stages are quite popular here. A few years ago nearly each rally in Poland had its own city stage. Not everybody likes them, but they are good for the publicity of rally sport.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stages like these are rare here, are they common on European events? I wish we had more of them and certainly drivers like Breen really can have no excuse for not having made it their business to learn how to be faster on them.



I cant believe how much time Breen lost on those two street stages. He could have lost the rally there if Katjo had not lost time earlier in the day...
As it is he cant afford any mistakes now.

[Nornbugger]

I cant believe how much time Breen lost on those two street stages. He could have lost the rally there if Katjo had not lost time earlier in the day...
As it is he cant afford any mistakes now.

Katjo has done well to be so close today, I think he can make a real push for the win now if tomorrow stays dry, his pace today was very good

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just seen Fisher's crash on SS3.. pretty big one !

[Jarek Z]

Just seen Fisher's crash on SS3.. pretty big one !

Can you plase share it?

[Jarek Z]

Katjo has done well to be so close today, I think he can make a real push for the win now if tomorrow stays dry, his pace today was very good

Yes, I agree, Kajto drives very well on this unknown rally. But I think the Irish drivers were simply surprised by him as to how much time they can lose on this city stage. I don't think they can lose their places on "normal" stages tomorrow...

[Jarek Z]

3h15 min are online...
http://www.circuitofireland.tv/

If someone wants to see the Porsche, it is between 1h:14 and 1h:16 in the video above. But let me warn you - what a disappointment! :(

[Barreis]

After 2 hours is wrc (also old escorts) action (so much wrc cars in Ireland)...
http://www.circuitofireland.tv/

[AL14]

Stages like these are rare here, are they common on European events? I wish we had more of them and certainly drivers like Breen really can have no excuse for not having made it their business to learn how to be faster on them.

I have to say that I don't wish it at all. This one in Ireland was even worst than others, with all that big ballons all over the place. Ireland has some of the most beautiful landscapes (and rally roads) in the world and the only live coverage was with green ballons in the middle of the street.

The only thing I like about this kind of stages is that they keep rally alive by bringing casual people to see sponsors.

[Munkvy]

I cant believe how much time Breen lost on those two street stages. He could have lost the rally there if Katjo had not lost time earlier in the day...
As it is he cant afford any mistakes now.

Wasn't he saying that the car is still down on power? Ie he hasn't been able to fix it, that would certianly explain it in a tight city stage horsepower out of slow corners will be more important than in normal stages.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/DRffnYtS74o

[Tom206wrc]

Gutted !!!! Armstrong got 5' penalty and now Opel 1-2 in Junior :mad:

What happened to Jon :confused:

[br21]

Gutted !!!! Armstrong got 5' penalty and now Opel 1-2 in Junior :mad:
What happened to Jon :confused:

He missed tires marking zone, so had no stickers on his rims when got back to service after first loop.

[Ounin]

I have to say that I don't wish it at all. This one in Ireland was even worst than others, with all that big ballons all over the place. Ireland has some of the most beautiful landscapes (and rally roads) in the world and the only live coverage was with green ballons in the middle of the street.

The only thing I like about this kind of stages is that they keep rally alive by bringing casual people to see sponsors.

It is a necessary thing luckily a few minutes' stage so why bother. If this is the price the organization has to pay to get the buget sorted for the whole rally weekend, I would say; okay then. Normally when we are at rally and there is such a stage we go to starting order you can see the drivers close and have a talk with them, or making pictures. I see such a stage as ideal for dads and their little kids to spread the rally virus :wave:

[Rallyper]

Armstrong not to start today due to carproblem. Pity. Nice battle between him and Emil.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen slow today but longer stages to come so might be better later.

Great time by Ingram on SS9 !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen fastest on SS10 but still complaining on a problem and having to drive really hard to make up for it ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvNdzsWYAEVwOU.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

No updates on timing after nine cars on Ss10.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Consani now out from Rally2. Shame. :(

[Nornbugger]

I have to say that I don't wish it at all. This one in Ireland was even worst than others, with all that big ballons all over the place. Ireland has some of the most beautiful landscapes (and rally roads) in the world and the only live coverage was with green ballons in the middle of the street.

The only thing I like about this kind of stages is that they keep rally alive by bringing casual people to see sponsors.

20000 spectators at it I think last year, and few of them will have been die hard fans who will have known enough to watch on the real stages, anything that lifts the profile of the sport and gets it back in front of the public in a positive light is good, thankfully you are clearly not Bobby Willis....

[Jarek Z]

Consani now out from Rally2. Shame. :(

Is it technical problem again? I can't believe how shitty those R5 cars sometimes are!

[Nornbugger]

Gutted !!!! Armstrong got 5' penalty and now Opel 1-2 in Junior :mad:

What happened to Jon :confused:

I hope Armstrong can get the budget to do more ERC events, the lad is quick, the R2 class has been very good so far

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tushkanova :eek:

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is it technical problem again? I can't believe how shitty those R5 cars sometimes are!

Yes, not sure what but said he only had a short-ratio gearbox to use today so probably related to that... :(

[Jarek Z]

Something must be wrong with Tlustak. He is down in the 20th position, behind R2 cars!

[Aldis S]

What is wrong with the results... yesterday and also today... wtf?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tarabus been in a ditch
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvbRyxWMAMkYSA.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto had an overshoot on SS 11...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen fastest so far and back into the lead..

Timing results best on http://rally-base.com/ :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto overshoot: https://twitter.com/RallyFM/status/584305159330779136

[AL14]

It is a necessary thing luckily a few minutes' stage so why bother. If this is the price the organization has to pay to get the buget sorted for the whole rally weekend, I would say; okay then. Normally when we are at rally and there is such a stage we go to starting order you can see the drivers close and have a talk with them, or making pictures. I see such a stage as ideal for dads and their little kids to spread the rally virus :wave:


20000 spectators at it I think last year, and few of them will have been die hard fans who will have known enough to watch on the real stages, anything that lifts the profile of the sport and gets it back in front of the public in a positive light is good, thankfully you are clearly not Bobby Willis....

Hey, that was my point too. I think they are positive for this kind of reason and if I were an organizer I will for sure add them to the rally route. Don't misunderstand this point. But let me say I just don't like them personally and I don't wish there will be too much of them on a single rally. I think this is a fair point.

[Rallyper]

How come results are down? Shouldn´t happen in such an event. Very bad!

[Rallyper]

Kajto overshoot: https://twitter.com/RallyFM/status/584305159330779136

Overshot? Turned right when he shouldn´t.

Edit: Looked like he came from left, but obviously overshot.

[Jarek Z]

Kajto overshoot: https://twitter.com/RallyFM/status/584305159330779136

Strange. He is still just 2 seconds behind the winner of the stage. Nice save :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dirty roads running down the order

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvgD-tWEAAvKff.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Hey, that was my point too. I think they are positive for this kind of reason and if I were an organizer I will for sure add them to the rally route.

Just less green balloons! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hey, that was my point too. I think they are positive for this kind of reason and if I were an organizer I will for sure add them to the rally route. Don't misunderstand this point. But let me say I just don't like them personally and I don't wish there will be too much of them on a single rally. I think this is a fair point.

Have to say I thought last nights street stage was particularly ugly, especially to watch on screen, but I bet the fans who were there enjoyed the spectacle.

[Lord_Shaitan]

Kajto overshoot: https://twitter.com/RallyFM/status/584305159330779136

He lost there about 5s. Braked too late and didn't want to risk.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Splits working now on http://www.rallyscore.net/263/Circuit-of-Ireland-2015-Circuit-of-Ireland-International/# :)

EDIT - but not well. :(

[Rallyper]

So what´s that penalty from TC8? Must be organizer issue as well.

[Jarek Z]

Bold statement from Kajto at the finish of SS12:
"I'm pushing very hard. It was good loop. This stage was very slippery. We'll see, we want to try to win this rally."
With such attitude mistakes like this overshot can happen...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen lost 3.6s to Barrable in SS12.. what a battle.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cuts on SS11 :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvi_RnW4AAjO_d.jpg

[Jarek Z]

I have just had a look at the stage times of Robert Woodside and his Porsche. They are very bad - usually between 40th and 50th position. He stopped on SS7 after a technical problem with his car:
http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=344&crewId=25699

[Jarek Z]

Breen lost 3.6s to Barrable in SS12.. what a battle.

How come you see the stage times and I don't? I tried all 3 websites, how do you do it? ;)

[Lord_Shaitan]

How come you see the stage times and I don't? I tried all 3 websites, how do you do it? ;)

FIA ERC ‏@FIAERC 13m13 minutes ago
SS12, @Craig_Breen is 3.6s slower than @RBarrableRally #FIAERC

:)

[Jarek Z]

Thanks my lord ;)

What a disappointment witht the live results system!

[Ucci]

I have just had a look at the stage times of Robert Woodside and his Porsche. They are very bad - usually between 40th and 50th position. He stopped on SS7 after a technical problem with his car:
http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=344&crewId=25699

Before this event even started, all Porsche fans knew that this stages are not suited for 911 GT3. The heavy back of the car is not tailored for jumps, car is simply to nervous...911 likes smooth ground, with fast, open corners and long straights.....Maybe a ''special'' driver like Snijers, Zeltner, Delecour, Dumas...wolud be faster, but no way a match against R5......

[mousti]

Not the first time that the timing is rubbish in Ireland..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm just getting times from Rally Radio at the end of the stage for each driver...

Times were working fine yesterday, even getting splits..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The street stages and their sponsors have some advantages.. ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBv2cteW8AAbc_S.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Idris Elba out :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvsE9oXIAA25Pf.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBvrB0mXIAEjs10.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

YES ! Parts of live stage with no commentators GREAT !

[noel157]

Sh-it stage but good for PR and the average Joe.

Barrable doing the drive of his life, great for him to get a win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Luky

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBwCIWqUsAAp_yZ.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Apparently Breen lost some time on the first run SS13, dont know about SS14.

Said the car is running well now so its game on for the rest of the stages.

[Tom206wrc]

Not the first time that the timing is rubbish in Ireland..


Any news about Gago and Adielsson :confused:

[br21]

any decent results somewhere? all I can see from ss13 & ss14 is total mess

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like we'll have to use ERC Radio to find out whats going on with the times... :(

Some splits here for SS15 http://www.rallyscore.net/263/Circuit-of-Ireland-2015-Circuit-of-Ireland-International/#

[Mirek]

How come results are down? Shouldn´t happen in such an event. Very bad!

According to PLuto the problem is in local timing system and therefore the problems are same for all result websites.

[Mirek]

It is a necessary thing luckily a few minutes' stage so why bother. If this is the price the organization has to pay to get the buget sorted for the whole rally weekend, I would say; okay then. Normally when we are at rally and there is such a stage we go to starting order you can see the drivers close and have a talk with them, or making pictures. I see such a stage as ideal for dads and their little kids to spread the rally virus :wave:

I agree with You. I think the best example of successful city stage is Barum Rally Zlín city stage. The stage is quite wide, relatively fast and long for a city stage an extremely crowded every year (around 40 thousand people every year). Even quite many drivers like it and I know that many foreign spectators come here mainly to experience the city stage.

[Mirek]

Before this event even started, all Porsche fans knew that this stages are not suited for 911 GT3. The heavy back of the car is not tailored for jumps, car is simply to nervous...911 likes smooth ground, with fast, open corners and long straights.....Maybe a ''special'' driver like Snijers, Zeltner, Delecour, Dumas...wolud be faster, but no way a match against R5......

I'm sure it is possible to make times in top 20 with Porsche in CoI and I personally think even top 10 could be possible in some stages. The car is not so bad. It requires big balls to drive but itself the car is fast.

[dimviii]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS15 Breen 0.6 faster at split 1 than Barrable and on same time at split 2!

SS 15 Breen 1.1 behind Barrable in overall positions. Three to go.

[noel157]

According to PLuto the problem is in local timing system and therefore the problems are same for all result websites.

Yep, they had issues with the stage start timing most of yesterday and this morning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBwVNq-UoAE7hf7.png

[Nornbugger]

I'm sure it is possible to make times in top 20 with Porsche in CoI and I personally think even top 10 could be possible in some stages. The car is not so bad. It requires big balls to drive but itself the car is fast.

Top 10 maybe for Delecour level driver today on dryer roads, yesterday running further back on wet mucky roads the car looked nasty to drive, looked and sounded great though

[RS]

Nice and tight for the last 50km!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen up on Barrable at split 1 by 3.6s ...

[noel157]

Top 10 maybe for Delecour level driver today on dryer roads, yesterday running further back on wet mucky roads the car looked nasty to drive, looked and sounded great though

I agree, needed more Manx type stages to do the drive justice. Woodside was and maybe had to be cautious. CoI certainly not the best event for it. Good to see (and hear) all the same.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS16 Breen's split 3 in before Barrable !!??

Barrable problem !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen 6s up on Kajto ...

Barrable OFF !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Brilliant battle comes to an end. Breen now leads Kajto by just under 20 secs.

[Mirek]

Gutted for Robbie Barrable :(

[Mirek]

The result system is a terrible joke. Hard to keep myself interested with the event :(

[tommeke_B]

Timing is a disaster indeed... Shame for Barrable, was doing a great event!

[RICARDO75]

spin for Breen. Gap between him and Kajto is about 4s for las stage

[mousti]

Go Kajto!

[br21]

pity with that results situation, as it's very interesting event, a lot of fights

[AL14]

Is still radio the only way to follow the times?

[WUff1]

Breen´s car after SS17:

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/20140_cbwr0nvw0aa4vxi.jpg

[stefanvv]

Breen's car after the spin:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/20140_cbwr0nvw0aa4vxi.jpg

[Aldis S]

Aaaa... I hate... I dont know whoo to hate... so nice fight all day, all two days.. WHERE ARE those results?

I hope there will be some explanation from ERC organizers!!

[RICARDO75]

win for Breen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well done Craig !! :D

[stefanvv]

well done indeed, but still feel sorry for Barrable

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fantastic win under all the pressure at his home rally. Tough wet roads, very strong challenge from Barrable & some car problems but he kept his head and did the job. Superb. :champion:

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gave me a big scare on the previous stage though !!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

'I'm speechless, I pulled everything from me to this weekend. I wanted to win this rally since my childhood.'

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

ERC title race, Craig Breen is now leading with 78 points, ahead of Kajto with 75 points.

[Rallyper]

Emil Bergkvist!!!

[Nornbugger]

Emil Bergkvist!!!

He cut if fine! Should be 10th when Tommy Doyle finishes in the Fabia, the Opel Adams seem to be very well sorted cars.

Pleased for Breen, he kept at it when he had niggles with the car, well done Katjo too, and I hope we see more of Barrable this year

[bluuford]

This is rediculous.... half hour after the end of rally the times of Juniro drivers are changed significantly.. For long time no stage times at all. Then many wrong times and missing times. Such things should not happen. It completely destroyed the rally for all who were not following it live. If such problem repeats then no mather how good the rally is they shoudl fix it or this rally should not be in the calendar anymore.

Otherwise it was nice rally. Seems that Breen won it.. maybe :-P both he and Katjo did a good job. DS3R5 proved that its unreliability was 150% in Ireland, two engine problems and one gerabox.

It was strange to follow the rally in the forrests with such a crazy results and no radio...

[RICARDO75]

Diogo Gago finished the rally but does not appear in the standings since the SS10. We don't know if it was in 4th or 5th in the JERC

[bluuford]

Diogo Gago finished the rally but does not appear in the standings since the SS10. We don't know if it was in 4th or 5th in the JERC

Or maybe he won that rally? :-P

[Rallyper]

If Moffet brothers put their co-drivers together it would have been Rowan Atkinson. Amost as funny as the timing on this event.

[focus206]

Good job from Breen, he took it home. Also from Kajto, didn't think he would have been this fast. But most impressed by the Adams, Bergkvist and Griebel!

[dimviii]

Jon Armstrong ‏@JonArmstrong84 55 λεπτάΠριν από 55 λεπτά
Can't describe how happy I am to receive the Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy! Presented by Colin's daughter, so happy!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yeah, great picture ! ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBxb2nvWAAA0SAH.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Today's full street stage replay with the ERC cars, Nationals & Historics at: http://www.circuitofireland.tv/ :)

[jarauto2]

unofficial pickem results 566567568569
congrats to CoI pickems winner - Henkie H. - You are back in the game :)

[bluuford]

Have you noticed that times and positions in top 10 have changed again?

[jarauto2]

can't see any difference in top 8

[stefanvv]

Greer seems to be retired, though Bergkvist is still in 10th place

[jarauto2]

I've noticed this.

[Nornbugger]

Have you noticed that times and positions in top 10 have changed again?

not sure what change you are seeing but Tommy Doyle was ran as non prioriety so was much later on the stages on his way to 7th

[bluuford]

Bergkvist was before Jeets, no he is behind again.. initially he won jwrc by 0,2 sec, then it was over half minute and now it is 15 sec.. so, his time has changed at least two times.

[jarauto2]

rest of the bunch575576577578

[Rallyper]

How can you win the price Colin McRae flat out trophy when you didn´t finish the rally, also electing not to start 2nd day?

[dimviii]

if i remember correct ,its not the first time this trophy goes to a crew that didn t finish the rally.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10428716_10153114930810733_690548484853499683_n.jp g?oh=2d79f6d8eeea6db1096d410a86596c22&oe=55B0BEC6&__gda__=1437310797_e5a5661c76d94f309ef41db07c1d2b0 8



incar of Tushkanovas crash
https://instagram.com/p/1D5oA3wRYd/

[Ounin]

How can you win the price Colin McRae flat out trophy when you didn´t finish the rally, also electing not to start 2nd day?

Winning or the amount of days is not the issue on this Trophy. It's the fighting spirit that counts and Jon Armstrong was the bravest this weekend.

[RS]

Congratulations to Craig Breen on the win, great to see him genuinely emotional about that.

Impressed that Kajto managed to get so close to the home boy on his first attempt though. Also Charles Martin did a pretty solid job, was that his first drive in the R5?

[mousti]

Martin did this year already Touquet in the 208 R5. I am not so impressed..

[dimviii]

Question to Craig Breen
It’s another win but it was far from straightforward. Can you explain what was wrong with your car and what about that spin on the penultimate stage?
CB: “We had a small niggly problem with the turbo which pretty much scuppered us in qualifying on Thursday and all of Friday. It was only at midday service today that we actually rectified the problem. To be honest with you they rectified the problem because they changed just about everything they could do. And finally after a process of elimination they fixed it for the last three stages. So we started our push and then on the second to last stage in Banbridge just after the start there was a fast left-hand corner at crossroads and a compression. On the first time we went through we filled the road and went away but on the second time we were a little too fast and spun and was very lucky not to do any damage to the radiator. Then on the last stage we had an overshoot about five or six kilometres into the stage. I stalled the car twice trying to get it restarted. Scott in fairness said ‘don’t stop believing now’ and I’ll never forget that. Then it was a bit of a push from then on in.”

http://www.fiaerc.com/news

[cardy]

impressed with Euan Thorburns pace and only 2nd time on tarmac in the fiesta s2000 first rally in ERC hope he gets budget for more ERC rallies

[makinen_fan]

Barrable after getting stuck in the ditch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CByGF8oWAAAxIhx.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CByGF8JXIAAnOy6.jpg

[Rallyper]

Winning or the amount of days is not the issue on this Trophy. It's the fighting spirit that counts and Jon Armstrong was the bravest this weekend.

Well, I don´t really know what the problem was never starting 2nd day. But ERC-live said he elected not to start. Electing should be he coosed himself. Why? Because of penalty of 5 mins?
That´s not fighting spirit for me. Rather the opposite.

[Simmi]

Well, I don´t really know what the problem was never starting 2nd day. But ERC-live said he elected not to start. Electing should be he coosed himself. Why? Because of penalty of 5 mins?
That´s not fighting spirit for me. Rather the opposite.

I have to admit this was my first thought too. Toys out of the pram? No specified issue. Okay it costs money to compete but that's a big error to make and there has to be consequences. It's a shame because he was night and day ahead of the other much-touted juniors. Looked great out on the stages.

[Nornbugger]

Well, I don´t really know what the problem was never starting 2nd day. But ERC-live said he elected not to start. Electing should be he coosed himself. Why? Because of penalty of 5 mins?
That´s not fighting spirit for me. Rather the opposite.

He apparently had a mechnical issue on the 2nd Ards test, the last test of friday, this possibly was before the missed tyre check? Not sure on that as I have been told different versions of the story. Certainly he was pushing hard on friday

[dimviii]

Not sure on that as I have been told different versions of the story.

can you share it?

[Hartusvuori]

Well, I don´t really know what the problem was never starting 2nd day. But ERC-live said he elected not to start. Electing should be he coosed himself. Why? Because of penalty of 5 mins?
That´s not fighting spirit for me. Rather the opposite.

On Twitter he said that he picked a problem with gearbox (leveller) on last stage of Friday. Per, please be happy with Emil's victory despite him not being granted the Flat Out trophy.

[Nornbugger]

can you share it?

Just that I've heard that the missed check was before mech problem, and that it was after mech prob had occurred, sorry for being unclear.

[WRCKE]

impressed with Euan Thorburns pace and only 2nd time on tarmac in the fiesta s2000 first rally in ERC hope he gets budget for more ERC rallies

They are coming to Belgium for the ERC Ypres rally

[cardy]

They are coming to Belgium for the ERC Ypres rally

yes Ive seen that hes doing ypres 2015 good news !!!

[Rallyper]

On Twitter he said that he picked a problem with gearbox (leveller) on last stage of Friday. Per, please be happy with Emil's victory despite him not being granted the Flat Out trophy.

Well Teemu, I´d appreciate more if you look at the odd things more than just being accusing. We all know what Emil done. And it has nothing to do with whom got the trophy. This man Armstrong did what others on this forum always says about homedrivers. He did good on home soil. And that is not enough getting a trophy. Not having in mind he even didnt want to drive the whole event even if he could. That´s from the official version.

Emil has proven what driver he is. He doesn´t need the trophy. Sorry though for many other drivers being more worth the price.

[bluuford]

I think Emil nor Jon deserved the trophy. It should have been in Barrable´s hands. It was the most notable performance of the weekend. I do not know how many people were expecting such performance from him. Just look at the pickems list. Noone put him first, 2 put him in second place, 10 to the third, 4 to the fourth, 10 to the fifth, 6 to the sixth, 4 to the seventh and 10 to the 8th.

[Ounin]

Well Teemu, I´d appreciate more if you look at the odd things more than just being accusing. We all know what Emil done. And it has nothing to do with whom got the trophy. This man Armstrong did what others on this forum always says about homedrivers. He did good on home soil. And that is not enough getting a trophy. Not having in mind he even didnt want to drive the whole event even if he could. That´s from the official version.

Emil has proven what driver he is. He doesn´t need the trophy. Sorry though for many other drivers being more worth the price.

I think that f.i. Jean-Pierre Nicolas of ERC knows exactly why he choosed Armstrong for the Flat Out Trophy. Of course everybody can have his own thoughts about this decision. And Emil has done a great job by winning the Junior class. Fact is that Jon Armstrong has done this rally for the first time so there weren't loads of home ground advantages as you recall.

[Rallyper]

Still it was rallying where he has more experience than foreigners. But the price is more of politics maybe. Enough of that topic from me. Just thought it was a choice not many should have done. And again, my thoughts has nothing to do with Emil.

[RICARDO75]

Greer seems to be retired, though Bergkvist is still in 10th place

Greer finished the last stage with fire under the hood. After that, couldn't start the engine

[PLuto]

Greer finished the last stage with fire under the hood. After that, couldn't start the engine

Yes, Greer retired.

[PLuto]

He apparently had a mechnical issue on the 2nd Ards test, the last test of friday, this possibly was before the missed tyre check? Not sure on that as I have been told different versions of the story. Certainly he was pushing hard on friday

Jon Armstrong missed absolutely first tyre marking zone. When you were starting the rally from TC 0, you must go to main road, turn to right and after 100 m turn to left to go to another parking for refuelling (and marking which was after refuelling). He didnt turned left, but was going directly via main road to the first stage...

Regarding the retirement - he put the car into parc ferme, but in the morning his mechanic picked it up. So I think it was his choice, but I was not talking to him yet about it.

[PLuto]

Bergkvist was before Jeets, no he is behind again.. initially he won jwrc by 0,2 sec, then it was over half minute and now it is 15 sec.. so, his time has changed at least two times.

Results in Ireland were disaster. We were joking in media center, that on Friday we had bad results, but on Saturday we had no results. But you must look positively - as I have lost patience with the results, I have decided to go for last loop directly to the stages to see the cars. After long time I have seen cars on real stage (unfortunatelly without Barrable, Thorburn and some others).

[PLuto]

Jon Armstrong missed absolutely first tyre marking zone. When you were starting the rally from TC 0, you must go to main road, turn to right and after 100 m turn to left to go to another parking for refuelling (and marking which was after refuelling). He didnt turned left, but was going directly via main road to the first stage...

Regarding the retirement - he put the car into parc ferme, but in the morning his mechanic picked it up. So I think it was his choice, but I was not talking to him yet about it.

I was just talking to him. Missed tyre zone was like I wrote - they had full fuel tank, so they dont need to refuel it... Retirement on second day was due to issues with car.

[Jarek Z]

Congratulations to Breen on his win as well as to Kajto for his excellent drive despite his first visit in Ireland!

I have just checked out final results of the national rally. I have to say I'm a little disappointed. Dessie McCartney and his Darrian T90 GTR only managed to finish in the 22nd position, behind many R2 cars and 30-year-old Ford Escorts :(

[RICARDO75]

Bergkvist onboard on SS16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6hCa81Zl9w&app=desktop

and Armstrong on SS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPASPWDQXiQ&feature=youtu.be

[stefanvv]

This is probably the most improper "Flat out Trophy" since has been granted.

[PLuto]

This is probably the most improper "Flat out Trophy" since has been granted.

Why? When we were talking in media room about our tips for Flat Out Trophy, we were thinking about Armstrong or Barrable. So if the Trophy is going to one of them, almost nobody was surprised. And after his performance during first leg, I think that decision is not bad.

[stefanvv]

Why? When we were talking in media room about our tips for Flat Out Trophy, we were thinking about Armstrong or Barrable. So if the Trophy is going to one of them, almost nobody was surprised. And after his performance during first leg, I think that decision is not bad.

IMHO Bergkvist was deserving it more than Armstrong, but for sure Barrable deserves it even more. Well, true Armstrong won most of the stages first day, but somehow Bergkvist was more spectacular from what I see from the onboards.

EDIT: anyway I hadn't chance to watch the reports, so there is a chance my opinion not to be complete.

[John Williams]

IMHO Bergkvist was deserving it more than Armstrong, but for sure Barrable deserves it even more. Well, true Armstrong won most of the stages first day, but somehow Bergkvist was more spectacular from what I see from the onboards.

EDIT: anyway I hadn't chance to watch the reports, so there is a chance my opinion not to be complete.

Armstrong had a 31 second lead over Bergkvist before he got his 5 minute penalty.

Bergkvist was going at a tremendous pace, so to take 30+ seconds out of him I'd say that must be pretty 'Flat Out'.

Well deserved in my opinion. The young lad must be devastated by their simple, innocent mistake.

He badly needs a haircut but he still looks like the quickest driver in ERC Juniors by some margin.

[Mirek]

IMHO Bergkvist was deserving it more than Armstrong, but for sure Barrable deserves it even more. Well, true Armstrong won most of the stages first day, but somehow Bergkvist was more spectacular from what I see from the onboards.

Not sure if serious...

[N.O.T]

too much talk about some prize that doesn't matter at all and nobody will remember in 3 days...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

IMHO Bergkvist was deserving it more than Armstrong. Well, true Armstrong won most of the stages first day, but somehow Bergkvist was more spectacular from what I see from the onboards.

EDIT: anyway I hadn't chance to watch the reports, so there is a chance my opinion not to be complete.

You cant be more 'flat-out' than someone else if they are faster... just being spectacular means nothing.

You must be fast and spectacular, like Chris Ingram who won the CMR Trophy here in 2014.

[stefanvv]

Not sure if serious...

well I watched only 3 onboards from the rally, it looked like that to me

[Fast Eddie WRC]

In terms of the Circuit of Ireland as a whole, it's great to see all the discussion about the achievements of the drivers and no more griping about foreign drivers not able to attend, or the local drivers not competing in the International (ERC) section.

The foreign drivers came and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and the Irish & Brits have finally been able to afford the modern machinery (R5s etc) to take part.

The event was always fantastic in terms of its long history and the driving thrill of its roads. But now its has the driver participation to match, it truly deserves its place in a major rally championship.

[Mirek]

well I watched only 3 onboards from the rally, it looked like that to me

That was not the point. My point was that speed is not measured by spectacle which is purely subjective thing anyway.


In terms of the Circuit of Ireland as a whole, it's great to see all the discussion about the achievements of the drivers and no more griping about foreign drivers not able to attend, or the local drivers not competing in the International (ERC) section.

The foreign drivers came and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and the Irish & Brits have finally been able to afford the modern machinery (R5s etc) to take part.

The event was always fantastic in terms of its long history and the driving thrill of its roads. But now its has the driver participation to match, it truly deserves its place in a major rally championship.

The event is great but the result system was a farce. The organizers must solve the timing issue for the next time because every second tier event in my country has way better and more reliable timing than 2015 CoI had.

[stefanvv]

My point was that speed is not measured by spectacle

True. From what I saw from onboards though, Bergkvist style is little different, seemed more on the limit on some fast corners with some mud, it seemed little risky too, but probably this event requires "something else", while Armstrong on some slow corners seemed to drive very slow and not knowing how to get out of it. But I repeat again may be just some "moments" in the whole "picture".
For sure Armstrong was the faster of these two.

[kbalaazs]

Where are these onboards? Can you show the links?

Thanks a lot

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The event is great but the result system was a farce. The organizers must solve the timing issue for the next time because every second tier event in my country has way better and more reliable timing than 2015 CoI had.

It was poor and unacceptable, especially in a country in which rallying is almost the national sport. I hope there will be an investigation and no repeat in future.

Thankfully, at least following the rally online, there were end of stage times from Rally Radio and some excellent twitter feeds. I also found http://www.rallyscore.net/ wasn't so bad with split times available on all but the short street stages. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BTW, anyone found pic of a higher jump than this on the CoI ?

S.Moffett
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB09g7EWgAEPkH4.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

Where are these onboards? Can you show the links?

Thanks a lot

In this thread actually, few posts back. May be there was some other in other thread, but all of them on youtube, search and find.

[Rallyper]

This is also a good one on Emil B driving a RWD Volvo 940 VOC on gravel. Just look at the flow! Only about 175 hp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCUEmk07kmg

Btw on one stage on friday afternoon loop Bergkvist had to take it easy after a heavy landing in the beginning of the stage. Maybe lost some seconds there.

[mousti]

The event is great but the result system was a farce. The organizers must solve the timing issue for the next time because every second tier event in my country has way better and more reliable timing than 2015 CoI had.

And if you remember well, this is not the first time that it occured in CoI when it was in IRC I think.

[PLuto]

It was poor and unacceptable, especially in a country in which rallying is almost the national sport. I hope there will be an investigation and no repeat in future.

Thankfully, at least following the rally online, there were end of stage times from Rally Radio and some excellent twitter feeds. I also found http://www.rallyscore.net/ wasn't so bad with split times available on all but the short street stages. :)

Rallyscore.net were official results of the rally and it was not working properly, like whole events. This is very big shame which will bring negative affects to the whole ERC...

[PLuto]

And if you remember well, this is not the first time that it occured in CoI when it was in IRC I think.

Last year there were also problems with results. And as I have notices from last edition in IRC, timing was not perfect too.

[Nornbugger]

Congratulations to Breen on his win as well as to Kajto for his excellent drive despite his first visit in Ireland!

I have just checked out final results of the national rally. I have to say I'm a little disappointed. Dessie McCartney and his Darrian T90 GTR only managed to finish in the 22nd position, behind many R2 cars and 30-year-old Ford Escorts :(

Do you know anything about Dessie? He isnt a young man, his best days were before any of the top International drivers were born and he just goes out for his own enjoyment now.

[Ounin]

Do you know anything about Dessie? He isnt a young man, his best days were before any of the top International drivers were born and he just goes out for his own enjoyment now.

To be honest I've never heard of this guy, but looking at his stats yeah he must be an old national hero, very nice to see the great old Terry Harryman who was with him in the early years. It was the years you had to be a real man to cope with the undriveable HP monsters without power steering and two wheel drive at the back. ;)

[Mirek]

Jaromír Tarabus today in his press release praised Irish fans who managed to get his car back on the road even though he himself thought it's over.

He also said his off was on the same place as Kajto's and Breen's big moments.

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_ebf347f38081bbaeb23e139582d5e651.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Do you know anything about Dessie? He isnt a young man, his best days were before any of the top International drivers were born and he just goes out for his own enjoyment now.

No, I have never heard about him. I read on the Darrian website that they "have a reputation for building competition cars with giant killing performance". That's why I was curious about the results.

[Mirek]

Crash of Kevin Eves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oO5wNbJYQE

[liposh]

Jaromír Tarabus today in his press release praised Irish fans who managed to get his car back on the road even though he himself thought it's over.

He also said his off was on the same place as Kajto's and Breen's big moments.


Here in this picture you can clearly see the place where Tarabus went off one loop before Breen (displayed) spun there...

[makinen_fan]

Crash of Kevin Eves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oO5wNbJYQE

:eek:
Thank god noone was in the field

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What is the set-up with the ERC timings.. is the same company used or does each rally have its own organisation ?

[PLuto]

What is the set-up with the ERC timings.. is the same company used or does each rally have its own organisation ?

Each rally has its own timekeepers and also results group. On ERC pages they are only receiving data from organiser and putting it into unique design.

[Jarek Z]

Eurosport may have all their professional cameramen with their cameras and all the latest technology, but it's Lotos team that makes the best video from Circuit of Ireland. Instead of crappy videos by Eurosport watch this video that best portrays the atmosfere of Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDyPD58gE8#t=16

[Rallyper]

Such a shame this atmosphere didn´t become more public. And so many good places to cover on the stages! Thumbs up for Lotos team though!!

[Simmi]

Eurosport may have all their professional cameramen with their cameras and all the latest technology, but it's Lotos team that makes the best video from Circuit of Ireland. Instead of crappy videos by Eurosport watch this video that best portrays the atmosfere of Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDyPD58gE8#t=16

Hmm not really sure what you're getting at. That video has used mostly footage shot by the Eurosport cameras. A lot of it made it into the TV coverage. Certainly it's a good video. But it's the same technology. Just edited together differently.

[Rallyper]

Hmm not really sure what you're getting at. That video has used mostly footage shot by the Eurosport cameras. A lot of it made it into the TV coverage. Certainly it's a good video. But it's the same technology. Just edited together differently.

Editing is the art of coverage.

[noel157]

To be honest I've never heard of this guy, but looking at his stats yeah he must be an old national hero, very nice to see the great old Terry Harryman who was with him in the early years. It was the years you had to be a real man to cope with the undriveable HP monsters without power steering and two wheel drive at the back. ;)

Dessie McCartney was perhaps one of Ireland's best drivers in his day (along with his late brother Ronnie) here with Terry Harryman (again). Picture 1- 1976 Donegal International Picture 2- 1976 Circuit of Ireland, nearly 40 years ago:

http://www.lesashephotography.com/Rallysport/Donegal-Rally-1976/i-786ghxg/1/L/Dessie%20McCartney%20Donegal%2076-L.jpg

http://www.lesashephotography.com/Rallysport/Circuit-of-Ireland-1976/i-6sbRZ28/0/L/20120211-76%20Circuit%20Dessie%20McCartney-L.jpg

[stefanvv]

Hmm not really sure what you're getting at. That video has used mostly footage shot by the Eurosport cameras. A lot of it made it into the TV coverage. Certainly it's a good video. But it's the same technology. Just edited together differently.

That is like to compare Mozart with Salieri.

[Jeppe]

Crash of Kevin Eves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oO5wNbJYQE

The good old ´shoulder lock´ ;) ;)

[rallyfiend]

Hmm not really sure what you're getting at. That video has used mostly footage shot by the Eurosport cameras. A lot of it made it into the TV coverage. Certainly it's a good video. But it's the same technology. Just edited together differently.

Agreed.

Bit harsh to compare something (Eurosport) put together with about 3 hours versus something put together (Lotos Team) with 3 days....

[Jarek Z]

Hmm not really sure what you're getting at. That video has used mostly footage shot by the Eurosport cameras. A lot of it made it into the TV coverage. Certainly it's a good video. But it's the same technology. Just edited together differently.

I don't know what you mean too :) What I wanted to say is that Eurosport have their TV crews, cameras and helicopters, but it's one guy from Kajto's team who shows them how a good video is made. No crappy music and random images, but beautifully edited video with nice music that emphasizes the atmosphere of the rally. Plus - how many videos have you seen in your life that show two main rivals in the championship dancing together in embrace to a folky Irish tune? ;) I don't know about you, but I loved it! :)

[Nelly]

The good old ´shoulder lock´ ;) ;)

Complete brake failure, that field was the 'safe way' back to the junction where we were parked, thank god no one was in the field

[EightGear]

They were also lucky to hit that gate and not the pillar next to it.

[Jarek Z]

They were also lucky to hit that gate and not the pillar next to it.

Tarabus was also lucky! Well done Irish fans! :)
http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/7384/t/Tarabus-thanks-Irish-fans-for-his-Erc-result

[Mirek]

I wonder whey there are no quality non-official videos on youtube like from most of the events. Flying Finn Motorsport videos weren't there?

[RICARDO75]

I wonder whey there are no quality non-official videos on youtube like from most of the events. Flying Finn Motorsport videos weren't there?

Flying Finn? Maybe next week. They took 12 days to make the video from West Cork Rally :)

[Plhus]

My pictures:

http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/irsko2015.htm

[PLuto]

Krisztian Hideg was excluded from Circuit of Ireland - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=17269