Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2015

[Mirek]

Wondering why didn´t they just shorten the special stage but with decision yesterday. Even 2 x 10 km special stage instead of 2 x 27,5km would be "something for competition" but they should do the decision yesterday.


What are You speaking about? The stages are going to be run normally.

[AL14]

What are You speaking about? The stages are going to be run normally.
Haters gonna hate

[EstWRC]

Nice to see Märtin giving some tips to our drivers :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFmBqE5W0AAxCwn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFl-N4IWIAA-cb9.jpg

[liposh]

Haters gonna hate

I am not hater :D Just thinking about psychological point of view. I am happy the stages will be run normally. Maybe the fire had not so big influence on the special stage. But for example I don´t have so big balls to wait till today morning.

[JTGANG]

Maybe it is still bit early to say but i do not think Lefevbre is the new rising star we were hoping for.....

[Hartusvuori]

I am not hater :D Just thinking about psychological point of view. I am happy the stages will be run normally. Maybe the fire had not so big influence on the special stage. But for example I don´t have so big balls to wait till today morning.

Organising an event in the scale of WRC, you will until the very last minute to make decision to cancel stages, if it's not something necessary to do earlier (in which cases often stages are shortened). Forest fires were evident yesterday evening, but no one knew how exactly they would effect the event this morning. There was time to wait and see and make the decision later for the organisers. As a spectator I would've propably opted for other stage to spectate, but that's completely different thing.

EDIT: New reports coming that forest fire might not be fully in control in the area. Still not 100% sure whether they can run the stage or not.

[stefanvv]

:D:D:D -
Ta! There u go, we GO SIDEWAYS ALREADY! #VolkswagenMotorsport (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=VolkswagenMotorsport) https://t.co/mGhJG4oOao

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toni Gardemeister ‏
SS2 Rally Portugal..was some forest fire during night and still some smoke coming..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFl0mBcWgAAsBTn.jpg:large

[Eli]

rear right puncture for ogier

[Micke_VOC]

The splits working really bad !
Puncture for Ogier

[Bartek]

Ogier with puncture is still faster than Ostberg...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg reporting fires still burning - looks like a move-set or a game !

[Micke_VOC]

Isn't the sound quality from the rallyradio really bad today ? Becks is clear but close to impossible to hear what the drivers says.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans stopped ?? :(

[EstWRC]

Tänak fastest in first split, finally showing his true speed!

[noel157]

Meeke gets a good run.

[JTGANG]

Sordo fastest sofar !!!!

[noel157]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 1m1 minute ago Porto, Portugal
#WRC SS2 @krismeeke on the radio "I could see Elfyn stopped in the stage, but I didn't stop to ask him more details ;-)"

Hard luck for Evans.

[Rallyper]

Morning lads! Going to be exciting with Sordo, Tanak, Mikkelsen having the pace!! Long way to go before finish.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good run by Tanak in the new Fiesta ! :)

[N.O.T]

LOL
Overall time


Pos.
Driver
Car
Time
Difference


1
S. Loeb /
D. Elena
Citroën
DS3 WRC
15:53.5




2
O. Tanak /
R. Molder
Ford
Fiesta WRC
16:15.5
+22.0
+22.0



3
S. Ogier /
J. Ingrassia
Volkswagen
Polo R WRC
16:24.4
+30.9
+8.9




you still need a bigger bait...

[N.O.T]

Classic dog behaviour by Latvala...

once he fucks up his chances for a title then decides to just drive slow, him an ostberg will eventually give me cancer with their useless existence in this sport...

[stefanvv]

Ops, sorry for the confusion, it appeared wrong rally results on me

[EstWRC]

Damn SOrdo, exactly like last year. LOL And Tänak saying that it was not a good stage at all for him, notes not so correct

[stefanvv]

Electrical problem for Evans, still not moving

[stefanvv]

Ostberg is on the speed now, little scared of the fires on SS2?!?

[rage82]

Craig Breen now stopped in the stage
Ostberg is now 3.4 sec. quicker than Ogier, and 7.4 sec. in the end of the stage

[EightGear]

Monter time for Al-Attiyah.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Evans having a problem with the new car, must be so frustrating for him.

[EightGear]

Breen has engine trouble. Keeps haunting the 208.

[Rallyper]

Classic dog behaviour by Latvala...

once he fucks up his chances for a title then decides to just drive slow, him an ostberg will eventually give me cancer with their useless existence in this sport...

So you have woke up? Or are you still sleeping?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville playing the long-game with his tyre strategy... we'll see...

[AL14]

Still very early for a prediction but it seems things are getting good for Mikkelsen. Ogier is loosing 7 seconds per stage, if Andreas continues like this he will have a considerable gap at the end of the day. Let's see.

[Micke_VOC]

Monter time for Al-Attiyah.
And for Pontus to, 1s before Nasser and 25 s before Ketomaa

[Rallyper]

WRC+ is fast today. Times coming up same moment as for Becsy!

[EightGear]

Still very early for a prediction but it seems things are getting good for Mikkelsen. Ogier is loosing 7 seconds per stage, if Andreas continues like this he will have a considerable gap at the end of the day. Let's see.

He won't be losing time on the second pass though.

[noel157]

WRC+ are fast today. Times coming up same time as for Becsy!

Make the most of it, won't last long... : )

[HarriK]

On mozilla I'm not able to log in WRC+ (security problem)
IE: I cannot change the followed stage..
whats the problem?

[AL14]

Monter time for Al-Attiyah.

Looking at the splits it seems Kruuda's time will be more monsterish than his!

[Mirek]

I don't know if this is funny, maybe not...

SS2: STOPPED
After car 38 (Brazzoli) to allow organisers to recover a damaged zero car.

[makinen_fan]

Lappi is 1min down compared to Pontus and Nasser

[HarriK]

Kruuda fastest WRC2 car on SS2.

[smsgrafica]

WRC+ is fast today. Times coming up same moment as for Becsy!

Please, tell me you are joking. I don't have any times at all... :(

[Mirek]

Lappi is 1min down compared to Pontus and Nasser

He must have some problems.

[Rallyper]

Please, tell me you are joking. I don't have any times at all... :(

Not joking. Five minutes ago it was like I said. No problems for me. My only problem is a slow PC.

[stefanvv]

splits on wrc+ are working fine for me as well

[HarriK]

SS3: Lefebvre "We had a water temperature alarm on the stage. We need to go and have a look."

[RS]

Kruuda fastest WRC2 car on SS2.

I find this quite surprising, do conditions get much better for later runners?

[Mirek]

Do I understand right that Grondal opted for taking a lateness penalty rather than go after Foulon?

[stefanvv]

splits on wrc+ are working fine for me as well

not anymore, it didn't last long indeed

[skarderud]

Classic dog behaviour by Latvala...

once he fucks up his chances for a title then decides to just drive slow, him an ostberg will eventually give me cancer with their useless existence in this sport...
Gooo Mads, Gooo jariiii!:)

[stefanvv]

Ostberg seem to worn his tyres, not the case with Meeke though

[makinen_fan]

Do I understand right that Grondal opted for taking a lateness penalty rather than go after Foulon?

It's weird, in WRC splits they have Foulon, Lappi and then Grondal but not in the official start list. If that's the case maybe that's why Lappi lost 1min? Skoda's twitter didnt mention any problems for him

Breen's car:
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11013216_10153383410554973_7633523924207242544_n.j pg?oh=79149f590505cec0ecacd2685cd30433&oe=55FCA5F4

[dimviii]

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10172849_818380548199235_3252079392434989704_n.jpg ?oh=3a11cd112183a1cd46e1a5c8a83d642a&oe=55CDA135

[dimviii]

Neuville "I'm the only one with hard tyres on the car. I try to take care of them. I will try to see what's going on tomorrow

[b3637853]

It looks like Portugal is the first rally with real disadvantage for Ogier. I hope that there won't be any rally 2 drivers so Seb will start first tomorrow as well.
Altoughtwe have to wait because he might not lose to much in the second loop. I predict at least some moaning from Ogier.

[Rallyper]

I see JML having a good time on SS4. No slowing N.O.T. so you won´t get cancer yet.

[RS]

Lappi has a 'normal' time on SS3.

[Mirek]

Lappi did ok in the SS3. The problem from SS2 is probably solved (maybe puncture or something?).

[hari]

It's weird, in WRC splits they have Foulon, Lappi and then Grondal but not in the official start list. If that's the case maybe that's why Lappi lost 1min? Skoda's twitter didnt mention any problems for him

Starttimes for SS2:
Foulon 10:36h
Lappi 10:40h
Grondal 10:42h

[smsgrafica]

It looks like Portugal is the first rally with real disadvantage for Ogier. I hope that there won't be any rally 2 drivers so Seb will start first tomorrow as well.
Altoughtwe have to wait because he might not lose to much in the second loop. I predict at least some moaning from Ogier.

Now that's a comment full of sportsmanship...

[dimviii]

Sordo tyres
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFmqyxQW8AAyP1p.jpg

[AL14]

Latvala won the stage and it seems Becsy is having orgasms. :)

[makinen_fan]

Khalid retires in SS4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFmrABeWMAA4edf.jpg

[b3637853]

Now that's a comment full of sportsmanship...

Because I think Ogier will finally have the reason to moan. All other rallies he cried that he have to open the road 2 days, but it never happened, what's more he even had the advantage in Monte Carlo, Sweden, Mexico (partly beacuse of tyre choice). I'm not saying the rules are good, because they definitely are not.

[dimviii]

Ogier

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/22/5298e6c79340308a704fed7ffd72fb05.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

Well Al Qassimi is almost certain to be first on the road now! - Expect a big fight back this afternoon from the Champ
Meanwhile Goooooooo Kris!!!!!

[Livewireshock]

Great stage time for Paddon!

[N.O.T]

Well Al Qassimi is almost certain to be first on the road now! - Expect a big fight back this afternoon from the Champ
Meanwhile Goooooooo Kris!!!!!

still it will not make much of a difference for Ogier if he is just him... tourists and nobodies use different lines on at least 50% of a stage from rally drivers... it will be be as bad of course but still.

[HarriK]

Qassimi: He didn't leave the start line because his car's handbrake was stuck on! Problem fixed now but he is on his way back to service. Retired from the day.

[Mirek]

SS4: KETOMAA
His Fiesta arrives at the finish control with its front-left wheel running out of alignment. "The car wanted to go somewhere I didn't," explains the Finn. "I don't know what is broken but I hope we can get back to service because we have no spares."

[dimviii]

Kubica

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11230726_10153218952310733_8978486865979374646_n.j pg?oh=2a3b1b85b211f5e1955e8519619ca46f&oe=55C76A47

[stefanvv]

Neuville "I'm the only one with hard tyres on the car. I try to take care of them. I will try to see what's going on tomorrow

I wonder wasn't it better to had them on the 2nd loop?!?

[Mirek]

Tidemand without brakes on second half of SS4.

[HarriK]

SS2 cancelled after car number 38, because 0-car was on fire. Car burnt totally and some forest also...

[makinen_fan]

Lappi fastest WRC 2 in SS4

[HarriK]

Lappi fastest WRC 2 in SS4
Nope.. Kruuda was a little bit faster.

[dimviii]

Lappi fastest WRC 2 in SS4

Kruuda 0,7 faster,and takes the lead at wrc2 for 7,2 sec from Nasser

[dimviii]

lolol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFmwNUxWEAAOrf9.jpg

[Mirek]

The notional times on SS2 are a joke? I hope they are...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Very early days but not seeing any huge improvement if the Fiesta drivers times..

Not a great rally to compare though given the impact of road position, cleaning & tyre strategy.

[hari]

Rally de Portugal - Twitter:
The Clerk of the Course decided to cancel SS5 - Ponte de Lima 2.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Breen... his bad luck is back again. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFm31OyWYAAK9z5.jpg:large

[rage82]

SS5 is now cancelled

[maciotacio]

Kubica said in the mediazone interviews that his hard Pirellis are too soft, comparing to Michelins. It seems like Pirelli gravel tyres are realy good for short super special stages (yesterday all Pirelli drivers were ahead of Ford factory drivers), but for proper rally stages, when it's dry and hot they are not giving right support for the driver

[liposh]

Shame for Breen... his bad luck is back again. :(



Let´s look on the bright side of it. The sceneries are really spectacular, weather is fine. Nice place to stop.

[HarriK]

Teemu Suninen retired day1 after SS3. Hopefully continues tomorrow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5 canceled due to forest fire caused by... car No.00 ... now that is a fail !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnIz6IWoAAwDoF.jpg:large

[GigiGalliNo1]

Is this the only chat from the rally?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

0 Car also burned out...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnJfLAVAAELglM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnAeQjWAAA-eHe.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC.com SS 2-4: https://youtu.be/ILUo_BXwfJ8

No.00 Car on fire: https://youtu.be/nCTsBtkfvmM

[noel157]

00 fire video that Eddie forgot to post... : )

https://youtu.be/nCTsBtkfvmM

You edited your post!

[noel157]

WRC.com SS 2-4: https://youtu.be/ILUo_BXwfJ8


So Paul King cannot pronounce the word suspension? LOL

[hari]

SS5 canceled due to forest fire caused by... car No.00 ... now that is a fail !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnIz6IWoAAwDoF.jpg:large

I wonder why they waited and run the stage until Nr. 38, with that burning car on the road already before the first cars.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Sorry, forgot there was a break...

[RS]

SS5 canceled due to forest fire caused by... car No.00 ... now that is a fail !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnIz6IWoAAwDoF.jpg:large

Has Duval made a comeback?

[AL14]

http://imageshack.com/a/img909/7928/N5nBrr.jpg

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport
#tyre infirmation update: Volkswagen: 3 #Michelin LTX Force S4 +2H #wrc #RallyPortugal

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport
#tyre information: Meeke/Neuville: 4 #michelin LTX Force S4+1H, Volkswagen/Ostberg: 2S+3H, Sordo/Paddon/Tanak: 5S

[makinen_fan]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11143461_483679828447095_1815151437622267817_n.jpg ?oh=05ef191f61cc3bc3ee4e493db618c1b9&oe=55C1DEDD

[dimviii]

FRI 15:28 - ELFYN EVANS UPDATE
He has retired from the day after the electronic throttle on his Fiesta RS failed on SS2. “The really unfortunate thing is that it wasn’t a new part," said Evans. "It’s something that’s very much tried and tested but it’s just one of those things. It will be a relatively easy fix for the technicians and I’m sure we’ll be back tomorrow."

[jonkka]

I wonder why they waited and run the stage until Nr. 38, with that burning car on the road already before the first cars.

That is a very good question indeed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That is a very good question indeed.

Car may have been on fire but maybe it hadnt yet spread to the forest...

[dimviii]

ss2
https://youtu.be/q_SQPwKAWN4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Drivers reporting SS6 very very rough... maybe expect some to have problems in there.

[rayh_mx]

None has been able to set a shorter time than Ogier in SS6

[dimviii]

Latvala comes faster through splits

[dimviii]

Latvala slower finally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML 2nd fastest... Tanak also going well. :)

[Mintexmemory]

Climb back begins - bet Seb is really annoyed about the cancellation of SS5 - " Seulement un petit feu!! ma fois!"

[rayh_mx]

Bertelli Stopped!!

[AL14]

Bertelli Stopped!!
What an unexpected surprise

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS6: KUBICA
"All okay but a lot of ruts and rocks around. We already raised the car a bit because of the ruts but for sure we will have to raise it some more before the next one."

[stefanvv]

What an unexpected surprise

Mexico wasn't smooth for him either

[rayh_mx]

Mexico wasn't smooth for him either

It was beacuse the high altitude

[N.O.T]

easy win by Ogier if nothing unexpected happens...

Alpha male wolf vs doggies in potty training.... expected outcome.

[AL14]

Mexico wasn't smooth for him either

Not a rally was smooth for him.
It's a torture seeing a WRC car threated that bad, and a professional and skilled co-driver like Bernacchini standing that back in the rankings.

[Mintexmemory]

easy win by Ogier if nothing unexpected happens...

Alpha male wolf vs doggies in potty training.... expected outcome.

Given he will lose more time than today on the Saturday Morning loop (you already pointed out the lines of Al Q and Evans won't help him) I really can't see how he can claw back Latvala's advantage unless he takes insane chances or the standard misfortune befalls JML -He may catch Mikkelsen, so by his own efforts (and they'll have to be titanic) 3rd place is likely. That also assumes none of tomorrow's second runs are cancelled

[Mintexmemory]

Not a rally was smooth for him.
It's a torture seeing a WRC car threated that bad, and a professional and skilled co-driver like Bernacchini standing that back in the rankings.

Yeah but he's rich and good looking, I don't think he'll lose any sleep about his lack of other talent!!

[N.O.T]

reality does not really care what you can see and what you can not...

reality is inevitable.

[N.O.T]

Yeah but he's rich and good looking, I don't think he'll lose any sleep about his lack of other talent!!

Bertelli is not good looking.

[Mintexmemory]

Bertelli is not good looking.

Compared to you he is!!

[N.O.T]

Compared to you he is!!

very few people are good looking compared to me... and he is not objectively, not compared to anyone.

[Rallyper]

Has this become a ladyboy beauty contest?

[stefanvv]

Not a rally was smooth for him.
It's a torture seeing a WRC car threated that bad, and a professional and skilled co-driver like Bernacchini standing that back in the rankings.

Speaking of wasted WRC cars, Al-Qasimi is not better either. But it's always like that, have money and do whatever You want to waste some.

[AL14]

Me too I predict a strong recovery of Ogier but it won't be easy for him if Latvala will have no problems (which are not unlikely to happen).

[jonkka]

This message is hidden because () is on your ignore list

Thank you, forum software.

[AL14]

Speaking of wasted WRC cars, Al-Qasimi is not better either. But it's always like that, have money and do whatever You want to waste some.

Al-Qassimi is worst than him. And he's far from a good looking guy too.

[Mintexmemory]

Has this become a ladyboy beauty contest?

;-) Yes are you ready to throw your handbag into the ring?

[noel157]

What's Ostberg on?

"I think I did quite a good stage. Maybe i'm wrong - maybe I should cry."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

very few people are good looking compared to me...

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/4/005/081/013/1bb24d6.jpg

[rayh_mx]

;-) Yes are you ready to throw your handbag into the ring?
They are going to rip their pantyhose

[noel157]

Looks like a terrorist mug shot.
Ugly as sin too.......

Visually similar images according to Google: http://tinyurl.com/q3ldydy

[N.O.T]

Looks like a terrorist mug shot.
Ugly as sin too.......

you added the last sentence after editing it...

thank you.

[rayh_mx]

Ogier fastest again....

[AL14]

Tanak fastest after first slipt. Hope he will keep the pace and took the stage.

[jonkka]

It looks like Tanak just might pass Mikkelsen?

[rayh_mx]

JML 2.8 faster than Ogier

[Rallyper]

;-) Yes are you ready to throw your handbag into the ring?

Too old. And wrong forum. ;)

[jonkka]

Ott lost time on final split... But still up one place

[Mintexmemory]

Too old. And wrong forum. ;)
I believe Per you are the same age as me! I am just entering my second childhood ......

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville 1.08m down after today... dont think his tyre gamble will pay off...

[jonkka]

Yeah - and slowest Hyundai

[Mintexmemory]

If SS5 had run Ogier would have been much closer to positions 3-5. As it is I expect him to catch all 3 tomorrow afternoon but the 1-2 fight all depends on tyre strategies. I hope Kris has something in reserve

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo's tyre:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnxrQkWAAEEMm_.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica Onboard SS4 with puncture: https://youtu.be/ISkjafYF7H8

[N.O.T]

Kubica Onboard SS4 with puncture: https://youtu.be/ISkjafYF7H8

is this taken from WRC+ ? the quality is disgraceful for a 2015 video.... do these people in the WRC even try ?

[EightGear]

It's recorded from WRC+ but the quality is much better on there, at least much smoother.

No idea why people upload pathetic videos like this to YouTube.

[stefanvv]

Sordo's tyre:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnxrQkWAAEEMm_.jpg

second loop was worse for the tyres. and this with a 27km cancelled stage:)

[stefanvv]

Al-Qassimi is worst than him. And he's far from a good looking guy too.

I'm not watching rally for someone's look, especially my own gender:D

[bluuford]

I looks like Kruuda lost a lot of time and lead because of Foulon..

[Mirek]

Another 208 T16 out with engine problem - Koči.

[dimviii]

I looks like Kruuda lost a lot of time and lead because of Foulon..

pitty he was fair and square faster from everybody.

[Rallyper]

Tidemand fastest among WRC2/R5 class...

(Yes, I know he drove RRC in Sweden)

[Mirek]

Kruuda with R5 was clearly faster on most of the stages and without being slowed down by Foulon he could have been even ahead of Al Attiyah and Al Rahji who are ahead of Tidemand. Let's be fair.

[bluuford]

Seems that Ott and Dani gambled with soft tyres for the last two stages (bearing in mind the fact that there were only two stages). So, I belive they do not need to use softs anymore.

[eib1]

Tänak at stage end
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFoATUEWEAA0m6z.jpg

[janvanvurpa]

Great stage time for Paddon!

Maybe he's still on a roll after winning the last round of NZRC overall in a Group 4 Escort?
Good job!

[Rallyper]

Kruuda with R5 was clearly faster on most of the stages and without being slowed down by Foulon he could have been even ahead of Al Attiyah and Al Rahji who are ahead of Tidemand. Let's be fair.

So now excuses can be made even if it means nothing for the result o/a? Today PT is fastest amongst R5 cars. Kruuda (who is a nice and fast guy, was faster on some stages) has to show he can make it to the finish, as well as the other guys.

[stefanvv]

May be Kruuda could be faster on all stages, may be not. It is rally after all, I expected more from Lappi though

[EstWRC]

Tänak finally starting to show what he is capable of, been waiting for it the last two rallies. Shame about Evans and Kruuda, he should be given the time back!

Malcolm still fancing Neuville? :p

[Ounin]

I looks like Kruuda lost a lot of time and lead because of Foulon..

Sorry guys maybe lack of brains or bad English but what on earth means : Foulon?

[Mirek]

So now excuses can be made even if it means nothing for the result o/a? Today PT is fastest amongst R5 cars. Kruuda (who is a nice and fast guy, was faster on some stages) has to show he can make it to the finish, as well as the other guys.

Come on, it's You who search for excuses. Tidemand (or his car) was much slower than Kruuda when Kruuda had his fate in his own hands. He lost all the time in one stage behind a slower car. Don't tell me it was his mistake :rolleyes:

Anyway Tidemand is way behind the gulf guys. If You think that it's some kind of achievement, I don't. And I don't say he must be slower driver than them. It may be the car...


May be Kruuda could be faster on all stages, may be not. It is rally after all, I expected more from Lappi though

Both Lappi and Tidemand had some technical problems. It's hard to say how much that affected them though (with Lappi definitely more than by one minute lost). Also after I saw the Fabia R5 shakedown videos I'm far from believing that the car setup is right.


Sorry guys maybe lack of brains or bad English but what on earth means : Foulon?

Foulon is French gr.N driver who for some very weird reason starts among R5 crews although he is way slower than them.

[makinen_fan]

So now excuses can be made even if it means nothing for the result o/a? Today PT is fastest amongst R5 cars. Kruuda (who is a nice and fast guy, was faster on some stages) has to show he can make it to the finish, as well as the other guys.

Kruuda is about 1min back and lost all the time stuck behind the Evo of Foulon for most of ss6. He was on pace with the rrc cars for all the other stages

[stefanvv]

Both Lappi and Tidemand had some technical problems. It's hard to say how much that affected them though (with Lappi definitely more than by one minute lost). Also after I saw the Fabia R5 shakedown videos I'm far from believing that the car setup is right.

This problem Lappi had was only on the first stage, but may be You're right and they have some set-up difficulties yet. We should not judge them too hard on their very first rally with R5 Fabia, on completely unknown rally.

[AL14]

Foulon is French gr.N driver who for some very weird reason starts among R5 crews although he is way slower than them.

It must be weird indeed.

Also, Kubica after SS3 said that he has been permitted a one minute more gap between him and Al Quassimi because he was stuck in his dust the previous stage. Why this wasn't possible for drivers after Foulon?

[Mirek]

This problem Lappi had was only on the first stage

No, there were more gremlins.

[EstWRC]

Kruuda lost about 1.20 behind Foulon. He was very angry at the organizers at the end of the stage.

[stefanvv]

Why this wasn't possible for drivers after Foulon?

On the 2nd loop the gap was 4 mins after Foulon. At least this was announced.

[hari]

Already on SS 2, 3 and 4 there was a 4 Minute gap after Foulon. Only in SS6 when Foulon started some minutes late, he was 2 min in front of Kruuda.

[AL14]

Poor Foulon. He maybe just wanted to have some fun in a WRC round but now is hated by other competitors and is feeling a lot of pressure :)

[stefanvv]

Seems it is not his fault, but organizer's

[EstWRC]

Kruuda just said in estonian news that he has protested the result of SS6. He said that Foulon had some technical issues and thats why he started just in front of him and when he caught him then Foulon didnt move away and he couldnt get past. He also asked the organizers to have a bigger gap because he knew he would catch Foulon but the organizers didnt give bigger gap.

[RS]

What were the problems of Lappi?

Tidemand said he cruised SS6 and 7 to ensure no problems. I suppose the guys in the detuned World Rally cars were less cautious on the rough roads.

I must say I am very surprised by the pace of Kruuda, especially after seeing his pre-event test video where the car looked hideous.

[Rallyper]

Come on, it's You who search for excuses. Tidemand (or his car) was much slower than Kruuda when Kruuda had his fate in his own hands. He lost all the time in one stage behind a slower car. Don't tell me it was his mistake :rolleyes:

Anyway Tidemand is way behind the gulf guys. If You think that it's some kind of achievement, I don't. And I don't say he must be slower driver than them. It may be the car...



Both Lappi and Tidemand had some technical problems. It's hard to say how much that affected them though (with Lappi definitely more than by one minute lost). Also after I saw the Fabia R5 shakedown videos I'm far from believing that the car setup is right.





If we aare on excuses you know very well PT had brakeissues on SS6 and cruised on SS7. Btw the most important for them in this rally is to bring the car home and get valuable data for the future and development.

PT is 31 sec behind and it´s not that much.

Now -end of excuses for us all...?

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmFeAG0tICM&feature=youtu.be&a

[christy but]

great stuff from meeke and nagle.but for the other irish lads its being a real bad rally

breen retired
McKenna retired
rafter retired
Cronin did not make the start

[John Williams]

What were the problems of Lappi?

Tidemand said he cruised SS6 and 7 to ensure no problems. I suppose the guys in the detuned World Rally cars were less cautious on the rough roads.

I must say I am very surprised by the pace of Kruuda, especially after seeing his pre-event test video where the car looked hideous.

They said on Rally Radio that there was a problem with dust clogging the air intakes. I suspect this may cause the ECU to reduce power as it won't like reduced air flow...

[EightGear]

Quite big gaps in WRC2 already. Have there been problems for Grondal and Pärn?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFor8j6WIAASRO9.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/hCtjbfeAfOY

[dimviii]

here we go..


google translate

ébastien Ogier Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF in Portugal. What I remember is that we have not done a bad job ... but we're only sixth. It's good for the show ... This is the confirmation that the "FIA Plan" (This is the FIA has decided to implement this rule, Ed) running. I kill myself to explain, but you never believe me, you think it's easy, and even being first on the road, you can win ... I compensates much as I can, but n It is not every day possible. When you are an athlete, it is frustrating not to be able to fight on equal terms. I am very happy with my tire choice. I just wanted to have a little more luck, especially not to die this morning. If we remove this puncture, which cost us about ten seconds, I think we can say that our lap times were very good since we opened the road. "

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_pas-content-sebastien-ogier?id=8987804

[stefanvv]

aha, it was about time to mention it. Anyway the cancelled stage played significant role as well

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://youtu.be/IMR6deOWTrM

[Ounin]

What were the problems of Lappi?

Tidemand said he cruised SS6 and 7 to ensure no problems. I suppose the guys in the detuned World Rally cars were less cautious on the rough roads.

I must say I am very surprised by the pace of Kruuda, especially after seeing his pre-event test video where the car looked hideous.

Kruuda deserves international recognition not one of the many fast Estonians but one one the fastest around, it took some time to turn his mileage experience into success, now I'm supporting him. Don't forget he is Finnish champ 2014.

[Kielder]

Today, I only could go to the second loop. I had planned going to Ponte de Lima 2 and Viana 2, but I heard on the radio the cancellation of Ponte de Lima. Fortunately, I had watched how to see Caminha 2 and Viana 2. A pair of pics of each one.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC00797_zpslhg6r0bz.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC00797_zpslhg6r0bz.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC00844_zpslpghgphe.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC00844_zpslpghgphe.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC00959_zpsbnwo9mg9.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC00959_zpsbnwo9mg9.jpg.html)
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/OAnibal/DSC00969_zpsxaadh3cp.jpg (http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/OAnibal/media/DSC00969_zpsxaadh3cp.jpg.html)

Tomorrow I'll try to see both loops in Marão & Fridão, always far from ZE's. I'll post again some pics at night.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

here we go..


google translate

ébastien Ogier Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF in Portugal. What I remember is that we have not done a bad job ... but we're only sixth. It's good for the show ... This is the confirmation that the "FIA Plan" (This is the FIA has decided to implement this rule, Ed) running. I kill myself to explain, but you never believe me, you think it's easy, and even being first on the road, you can win ... I compensates much as I can, but n It is not every day possible. When you are an athlete, it is frustrating not to be able to fight on equal terms. I am very happy with my tire choice. I just wanted to have a little more luck, especially not to die this morning. If we remove this puncture, which cost us about ten seconds, I think we can say that our lap times were very good since we opened the road. "

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_pas-content-sebastien-ogier?id=8987804

Three cars on Rally 2 ahead of him tomorrow so shouldn't complain any more...

[stefanvv]

Nobody likes "poor" Ogier:rolleyes:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another 208 T16 out with engine problem - Koči.

And another... Sousa also retired his 208T16 with the old radiator problem...

[dimviii]

@Κielder nice photos mate!!
any comments from wrc/wrc2 crews?


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[Kielder]

Hahaha, thanks.
They're fast :). It would take a long time. I'm still planning tomorrow. I believe I'll have more time tomorrow night. Mainly, clean lines by Latvala (so he will crash tomorrow) & Ogier was driving as the angry man who had to open the road. On WRC2, I love Nasser. A man who drives the WRC as training between Dakars has to be special.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/56/17/Rallye_Portugal_2015_KH_087_561779_555f8657e.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/56/16/Rallye_Portugal_2015_KH_047_561698_555f864c9.jpg


btw fastest wrc2 crews all with pirelli tyres(Kruuda,Nasser,Rahji)

[dimviii]

Ogier overtaking 00 car flaming

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFo64YgW0AAl5cK.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2015/grr_320a5730.jpg

more
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=19123&fotograf=100

[RICARDO75]

And another... Sousa also retired his 208T16 with the old radiator problem...

It wasn't the old radiator problem. I saw him pass on SS6 and was damaged in the front below, due to the many large stones that were on stage.
Speaking of which, Lappi had some luck with one of these stones. When he passed on the same stage, his Skoda had a large stone attached to the front bumper

[Mirek]

btw fastest wrc2 crews all with pirelli tyres(Kruuda,Nasser,Rahji)

Thanks, that's interesting.

[dimviii]

what a spot!
https://youtu.be/rK-9x_v6jf4

[Bartek]

Live stage only on WRC+??

[MR666]

Anyone watching the live stage on WRC+??? Mine keeps saying coming soon


Edit - working now.

[AL14]

Anyone watching the live stage on WRC+??? Mine keeps saying coming soon

There it is now. :)

Anyone knows some info about tyres?

[Bartek]

Evans crashed right now.

Malcolm must be happy...

Fiesta is burning wow!!

[AL14]

Evans started well :)

[litifeta]

I would not call the Evans thing a crash. He put a wheel into a rut and had a spin. Might have been a steering fault looking at the fire.

[EightGear]

Neuville stopped

[litifeta]

Neuville out

[stefanvv]

t 09:05 - Tyre choices
News in from Michelin. Numbers and compounds (hard (H) or soft (S)) of the LTX Cross tyres the Michelin runners left service with for Saturday morning's stages: Meeke/Ostberg/Ogier/Sordo: 3S&2H. Evans/Neuville/Mikkelsen: 6S. Latvala/Paddon: 4S&2H. Tanak: 4H&2S

[Bartek]

Anybody have a link to VW live results? I can't find it on their page

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Free stream: http://nowwatchtvlive.me/rtp-1-tv-live-streaming-watch-rtp-1-tv-portugal-online-free/

[AL14]

Latvala looking slow in the splits

[jonkka]

As is just about everyone else but Ogi

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anybody have a link to VW live results? I can't find it on their page

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=392&ral=137&L=0&lo=rtw&ext=1

[stefanvv]

Anybody have a link to VW live results? I can't find it on their page

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=392&L=1&ral=137
but splits are not working

[Rallyper]

Boys after Neuville saying they are hindered a few secs... Ogier gaining time against his contenders not only from good drive...

[HaCo]

Neuville :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier gets some time back straight away... shame for Evans on the Fiesta debut... nightmare rally for Neuville.

[latek]

Neuville is more and more disappointing.

[Rallyper]

Tidemand 3,2 faster than Nasser on this very fast stage. Looking good!

[bluuford]

Elfyn cut a bit too much and hit the rock and broke the wheel...

[Mirek]

Tidemand 3,2 faster than Nasser on this very fast stage. Looking good!

Lappi even faster, now double for Škodas. Seems like things go in a good way :)


Sordo complains he had to stop to avoid Neuville's car on the road...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFrReLaWAAAfYRj.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFrTJmEWgAA4eAg.jpg


Meeke on charge

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFrbd0iWAAAvCqu.png

[EightGear]

Neuville needs to calm down a bit.

[dimviii]

Lappi even faster, now double for Škodas. Seems like things go in a good way :)


Sordo complains he had to stop to avoid Neuville's car on the road...

according to other wrc2 competitors times at ss8 seems that for a reason Nasser is slow at this stage.Lets see at next stages.

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally
Meeke had a big moment at 11kms into the stage

[Mirek]

according to other wrc2 competitors times at ss8 seems that for a reason Nasser is slow at this stage.Lets see at next stages.

That's possible but for sure there is a positive trend if You look also at the time of Kremmer.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFrReLaWAAAfYRj.jpg



Good job Evans put that fire out or it would be a disaster for M-Sport ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke going well - good time ! :)

[dimviii]

Meeke 17:11.1 "I can't deny it, wrong pace notes, I had a corner expecting to be fifth gear and it was fourth. We're okay.

[Mintexmemory]

Great time, even with a moment, from Kris - does seem like the DS3 evo is nearer to the Polo (as I noted in Argentina) giving a bit of a margin for KM

[Rallyper]

Now Ogier has to show who´s best. And he probably will, but it´ll be challenging for him.

[dimviii]

Qassimi stoped to help Evans

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10955639_10152912078800678_8644451169628158862_n.j pg?oh=27674217127c8ac4ac4637761d232934&oe=55F83F35

[Mintexmemory]

Now Ogier has to show who´s best. And he probably will, but it´ll be challenging for him.

Looks like he won't be able to claw back enough time to get on the podium - Meeke v VW is the big interest!

[jonkka]

Looks like he won't be able to claw back enough time to get on the podium - Meeke v VW is the big interest!

Tomorrow will tell, he's close enough to make it if he won't lose much today.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11168567_818925081478115_5882153196422847211_n.jpg ?oh=e66820a1b3d46fa1b5b9cfd429b311a2&oe=55F838F8
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11263033_818924824811474_6476283487259958082_n.jpg ?oh=d956d0233ca302cff4104e38d19a86ca&oe=560B3750

more
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.818924818144808&type=3&l=e817585505

[Mintexmemory]

Tomorrow will tell, he's close enough to make it if he won't lose much today.

Tyre management will tell on SS10/13, let's see who has been clever. Ogier needs to be within 5 seconds of the top 3 to have a realistic chance over 4 short stages on Sunday

[AL14]

Tyre management will tell on SS10/13, let's see who has been clever. Ogier needs to be within 5 seconds of the top 3 to have a realistic chance over 4 short stages on Sunday

Let's say 10 to be safe. :)

[EstWRC]

Total diaster for Tänak with the hard tyres :(

[Mirek]

Paddon is doing a good rally. He's ow close to get ahead of Sordo.

[AL14]

Finally Kubica is taking it easy with a problem free rally. Maybe a little slow but it's very good if he sees that finish line without being amongst the rally2 guys.

[dimviii]

day1
https://youtu.be/nA-cbSiHLqc

[dimviii]

Pedder yesterday.Pitty i would like to see how fast could be.

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11209418_934957709858629_392388326147987205_n.jpg? oh=7bc7ae40d49929c0c81d10801fcf4215&oe=55F766A0
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11109431_934957929858607_309490548433905656_n.jpg? oh=033e1f6078709997eb913cce8c912cec&oe=55CC73D3
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10931172_934958166525250_1563433599979260882_n.jpg ?oh=01af2e4753226f585accb20f7a8cc3a4&oe=55FFC847

[AL14]

Skodas shining in SS9

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11120574_784963498277532_2972241435596539157_n.jpg ?oh=22e7c41f1f5966b1c956d423c9a33e59&oe=55C5DBE7&__gda__=1438686161_084ca8b0992b9b31bdacd85a476a4f0 2

[dimviii]

Skodas shining in SS9

i am not sure.

[Mirek]

Skodas shining in SS9

Kruuda and Lefevbre keep the pace with them.

[AL14]

i am not sure.

? They made the best times and take 2nd and 3rd position. Why you not sure?

[dimviii]

? They made the best times and take 2nd and 3rd position. Why you not sure?

yes they are fast at these stages,but Nasser has set up problems,and private Kruuda is same fast.Thats not ''shining'' its just ''ok'' for a works team with champion driver.

[dimviii]

WRC3 após SS8: GILBERT, VEIBY +58.1, LOUBET +1:17.7, HAAPAMAKI +1:21.9, CRUGNOLA +4:09.6

[Mirek]

Ketomaa broke a wheel... :(

[AL14]

Call it how you want :)
Lappi gained 25 seconds, very good for him.

[dimviii]

Call it how you want :)
Lappi gained 25 seconds, very good for him.

its not how i want to call it,its the reality.
Try to understant why somebody is faster/slower,this is the only way to understant the potential and the ''shine''


edit nice one!

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11377087_10153386411349973_1720019726734550079_n.j pg?oh=b778ea58d579e27b23f58a1e2db822c6&oe=55F70508

[dimviii]

SAT 10:51 - STAGE NOTES: SS10
Fridão 1, 37.67km. The rally’s longest stage has a tricky opening. It’s wide, fast and flowing but there are plenty of corners among trees which are close to the road. The roads are smooth with a fine layer of gravel on top, but there are also short sections of asphalt and cobbles. It’s easy to imagine this could be a stage in either Sardinia or Australia.