Rally Sweden 2015

[dupanton]

I think the stage is becoming slower and slower, if you watch the times. Best guys are in the front, but guys like Neuville and Meeke losing a lot!

[KKS]

and Meeke slow on splits.... too slow. Whats gooing on? Where yesterday times?

[jonkka]

If Ogi can keep up this pace (0,35 s/km faster), he'll catch Mikkelsen easily.

[dimviii]

I think the stage is becoming slower and slower, if you watch the times. Best guys are in the front, but guys like Neuville and Meeke losing a lot!

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing
#WRC SS12 @krismeeke 11:54.5 "If you're first on the road, the grip is consistant. Corner to corner, it's very slippery for us"

[KKS]

I think the stage is becoming slower and slower, if you watch the times. Best guys are in the front, but guys like Neuville and Meeke losing a lot!
it better to see some picture of stage. Maybe some gravel dig in

[KKS]

And again and again Ogier - is lucky. Whole 2 weeks before rally conditions was good for all cars, and when rally starts - conditions good only for first cars. And at Sunday only 46km of disadvantage stages...

[KKS]

Not good prev. stage to Brynildsen and Ahlin (lost 30 sec) and now Brynildsen on attack +3.5 qiucker than Keetoma.

[dimviii]

ss13 Hafgords sprint
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ymrF9CAAACGWl.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ymrGoCUAA7Zj0.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

And again and again Ogier - is lucky. Whole 2 weeks before rally conditions was good for all cars, and when rally starts - conditions good only for first cars. And at Sunday only 46km of disadvantage stages...

Seriously do you really think it matters where Ogier is in the order? 1st or 20th he''s more than able to win. Mikkelsen won't be able to defend a half a minute lead despite being in a Polo and near Ogier in start position. This really does sound like an old LP by Sour Grapes stuck in a groove and revolving at half speed!

[Ucci]

I'm surprised over Kubica's pace today-fastest Ford. Didn't expect from somebody who drives second time in his life in this conditions....

[KKS]

Seriously do you really think it matters where Ogier is in the order? 1st or 20th he''s more than able to win. Mikkelsen won't be able to defend a half a minute lead despite being in a Polo and near Ogier in start position. This really does sound like an old LP by Sour Grapes stuck in a groove and revolving at half speed!

Yes, it really my opinion. If Ogier be 20th on road he can't set that times as he set being 2nd on road.
And I didn't think that Mikkelsen is a great driver. It's good no word, but it like Henning. Good but not impressive

[cosmin_sb]

Ogier recover 2s in almost 41km

[KKS]

Brynildsen fastest in WRC2. He really attack Gorban position. Ahlin and Keetoma looks like only holding his position

[dominik_r]

I'm surprised over Kubica's pace today-fastest Ford. Didn't expect from somebody who drives second time in his life in this conditions....

I can't wait to see his pace is third or fourth season in WRC car :) I'm afraid of Thierry. He is pushing 101% of car...

[noel157]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9wEmVJIcAAx62b.jpg



lol

Tom ¨nn ‏@Umlaut_doubleN
@voiceofrally talking doubles from the 60's, I still wonder if @krismeeke could be Jochen Rindt's son!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9wDEwKIEAA3pHn.jpg

Super trivia question: who connects Rindt to Meeke?

[KKS]

Protasov off.... .agrrrr

[dimviii]

Colin's Crest Award Winners:
2010 @MariusAasen 37m
2011 @kblock43 37m
2012 @OttTanak 32m
2013 @thierryneuville 35m
2014 @JuhoWRC 36m
2015 ?

[dimviii]

Pekka Kaidesoja ‏@pkaidesoja
Live stage commentary with @EsapekkaLappi Vargåsen we are ready! @NelonenPro #moorgääs @Becsywecsy #WRC #ralli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9yvFOXIYAA8nwW.jpg




Andreas Mikkelsen ‏@AMikkelsenRally
- SS11 good SS12 not so good, got stuck in ditch a few seconds. No focus on Ogier, but to push and do my job

[KKS]

SS14 Live on BT Sport1

http://cricfree.sx/bt-sport-1-live-stream-1

[KKS]

Equal SS13 times for that who involving to 2nd place battle in WRC2. wow

[KKS]

Latvala off

[jonkka]

He's never been on.

[HarriK]

best quality
http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=11447

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9y2tWDIgAAlSrE.jpg

[dimviii]

Ogier is going to take the lead.

edit Mikkelsen still first with 1,7sec had a spin

[HaCo]

This should be in HD on Eurosport!

[HaCo]

Good time by Ostberg!

[HarriK]

Bertelli seems to be stuck on snow on right hand corner.

[KKS]

Good splits so far from Meeke and Neuville. Fingerscross

[dimviii]

Latvala
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9y4_dPIcAAFLeP.jpg

[HaCo]

Good splits so far from Meeke and Neuville. Fingerscross

Fingers crossed as well!

[HaCo]

Very good time by Neuville!!! Awesome!

[MartijnS]

Good time of Neuville!

[HaCo]

Neuville only 12 secs behind the lead now.

[KKS]

best quality
http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=11447
can't find it on site. Thank you!

[dimviii]

first 3 inside 12,4 sec.

[HarriK]

www.torrent-tv.ru (http://www.torrent-tv.ru)

search box right up corner: "Sport" and choose bt sport1.
I think it might need registration.

[KKS]

aaaaaaa Gorban stopped. Fastest so far in WRC2 on SS14 and... such a..... WHHHHYYYY

[KKS]

www.torrent-tv.ru (http://www.torrent-tv.ru)

search box right up corner: "Sport" and choose bt sport1.
I think it might need registration.

I think they done some filtering by country cuz I have this one
http://i.piccy.info/i9/b8d3a768d2a039875e55c4a85f0a504b/1423908074/287585/744543/btsport1.jpg

[KKS]

Very good time by Neuville!!! Awesome!

I wonder... stage very fast with a lot of straights, and Hyundai doesnt' have strong engine and Nueville set such good time, welldone!

[smsgrafica]

Remember Neuville has 6 tyres, so he put 2 new ones on for this stage. Seems to have paid off.

[ELPE]

Ahlin lost over 1 min because Gorban off on SS14.

[KKS]

Remember Neuville has 6 tyres, so he put 2 new ones on for this stage. Seems to have paid off.

Agree, but it's another +10kg . With not good engine.


Ahlin lost over 1 min because Gorban off on SS14.
Not good move by Gorban holding Ahlin for a half of stage. :(

[Vaggelis27]

Lefebvre why not in WRC2??

[mousti]

Lefebvre why not in WRC2??

Other rallies fit him more and those he will nominate for WRC2

[KKS]

Still no sun and temperatures above 0?

[dimviii]

are we ready?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9zbB2zCIAApmRQ.jpg

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally
1st round to #AM! RT @ColinsCrest_: We have a winner of the Colins Crest award 2015. Andreas Mikkelsen, 41 meters!
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=465288883634236 …


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9zVOVSIgAAr84o.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9zVPAqIEAAqktJ.jpg

[KKS]

-2,9 Mikkelsen
It's more equal roads now :)

[dimviii]

Meeke onboard with plenty mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3F-kCH2E3I&feature=youtu.be

[KKS]

uuuuu -6.9

[stefanvv]

wohoo, Mikkelsen flies

[KKS]

And Nueville -7.7 WOW

GO MAAAADSSS!

[stefanvv]

Neuville 2, -7.7 on s2

[KKS]

Great time by Andreas -10.9

[stefanvv]

must be difficult for Ogier to fix the lines made by 2wd cars

[KKS]

must be difficult for Ogier to fix the lines made by 2wd cars
whole 2nd loop :D

[stefanvv]

whole 2nd loop :D

may be, we'll see

[KKS]

storming time 10.27.6

[stefanvv]

Neuville sees his chance now perhaps

[KKS]

I like that green color :)
http://i.piccy.info/i9/60cf87599ebece5857018a3908ba0edf/1423918121/62849/744543/green_ogier.jpg

[EightGear]

Nice to have a fight.

[stefanvv]

what is Protasov doing?

[N.O.T]

Can someone explain why Ogier is the only one losing that much ?

[EightGear]

So why did Ostberg actually think he could win this?

[AL14]

Can someone explain why Ogier is the only one losing that much ?

He wasn't nose in first enough

[KKS]

Can someone explain why Ogier is the only one losing that much ?
Justice in a sport :D

[N.O.T]

My question is honest though.. that is a lot of time to lose on a single stage... what is wrong ?

[stefanvv]

My question is honest though.. that is a lot of time to lose on a single stage... what is wrong ?

Says there is lot loose snow, difficult to find enough grip

[Sch17]

So why did Ostberg actually think he could win this?

Very very disappointed...

[KKS]

Gorban back in groove, fastest so far :)

[KKS]

My question is honest though.. that is a lot of time to lose on a single stage... what is wrong ?
You didn't know two axioms?
1. Protasov never could't win a stage
2. Ogier always win a stages
:)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Impressive by Neuville again today, shows he still has the pace when the car is right.. :)

SS15 'I had a couple of moments. Nicolas (Gilsoul) told me to calm down a bit but the speed was good.'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9zo_73IIAAOzNW.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

My question is honest though.. that is a lot of time to lose on a single stage... what is wrong ?

Sébastien Ogier - "I wouldn't be surprised if I lose 10s. Conditions are really bad, so much loose! Happy with my stage, couldn't have done better"

[KKS]

Mikkelsen did a mistake on final split

[stefanvv]

@SebOgier (http://www.twitter.com/SebOgier): "It's a bit better but still not good... It's better to say: 'not that bad'!"

[stefanvv]

Neuville is going to win this as well

[stefanvv]

may be not

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke on Colin's Crest
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9zv79eIAAIvd2P.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier speeding on Recce

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Stewards-Decision-No-2.pdf

[HaCo]

Ogier speeding on Recce

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Stewards-Decision-No-2.pdf
So he does not get the 2 min penalty?

[dominik_r]

So he does not get the 2 min penalty?

Till next speeding this year. Am I right?

[MartijnS]

Yes..I believe it says that within the next year, if he's caught speeding, he will get that penalty and now only has to pay the fine? Difficult text :D

[dupanton]

Yes..I believe it says that within the next year, if he's caught speeding, he will get that penalty and now only has to pay the fine? Difficult text :D

That is how I understand it too

[dupanton]

Neuville with 6 tyres again?

[KKS]

23 km of stage and 9drivers within 10 sec, I can't remember such situation in modern WRC in past years

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9z3IEaIIAApBDO.jpg

[dimviii]

Bertelli speeding too
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Stewards-Decision-No-5.pdf

[HaCo]

Startorder for tomorrow?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS17: OGIER moaning again...
"I didn't throw anything away, but it was terrible to be first on the road here. It was that bad. Probably five seconds here. It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."

He didnt lose that much to Mikkelsen... and Neuville setting the same time as Ogier.

SS17: MIKKELSEN
He is six-tenths quicker than Ogier. "A very tricky stage, lots of loose. Just one more stage to go now. I reckon we will have a very interesting day tomorrow."

[dupanton]

Neuville 2 fresh tyres for Vargassen :D

[satnav]

Neuville with 6 tyres again?

Yes 2 new ones for SS 18 just said on RR

[HaCo]

Ogier is the biggest moaner ever :-)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier: "It was like driving on a ski slope!" ...Fortunately, you're a professional ski instructor ;)

http://www.redbull.com/uk/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331580613065/sebastien-ogier-ski-interview

[dimviii]

Bigest dissapointment so far Latvala and Mads.Was waiting much more.

[[WRCRR]]

Ogier is the biggest moaner ever :-)

But what he is saying is still true...it is quite stupid that an event like the historic rally has an effect on the road conditions of the WRC event. Of course the main problem is repeated stages in the first place...one of the stupidest things even to have come to rallying...

[Ucci]

;1040327']But what he is saying is still true...it is quite stupid that an event like the historic rally has an effect on the road conditions of the WRC event. Of course the main problem is repeated stages in the first place...one of the stupidest things even to have come to rallying...

Same for everyone...if he doesn't like it, he still teach spoiled reach kids skiing....

[stefanvv]

Startorder for tomorrow?

reverse on current positions

[stefanvv]

Ogier is the biggest moaner ever :-)

Well he has to say something doesn't he. Between the lines You read "my driving is perfect"

[Viking]

Ogier "It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."... Petter, go straighten him out! :)

[Eli]

ogier seems to have stopped on WRC+

[A FONDO]

Bigest dissapointment so far Latvala and Mads.Was waiting much more.

Latvala is maybe not very bad but if Mads can't get the podium in Sweden with one of the VW's out of the game I say he is useless.

Paddon is pity once again. Even if he is strictly ordered to bring the car to the finish he can't be at the same pace as Prokop. My mistake to overrate him when driving in SWRC.

Positive thing is Neuville, hope he keeps the momentum.

[harris]

ogier seems to have stopped on WRC+

Are you watching replays or live action on WRC+? Site tells me that live action resumes in 20hrs. What am I missing here/there? Is there any live timing available on WRC+?

THX

[Eli]

live maps

[Reis Eduardo]

Anyone know what's up with this information :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9z2bsAIcAEmDp_.jpg

[Koceens]

Hello to everybody!

This year I was able to attend only day 1 of rally Sweden and I have to say it was a good one. Good road conditions despite the mild temperatures and I haven't seen in the past drivers using so much snow banks. We did 4 stages easily (SS3, 4, 6 and 8). Drivers to mention as always all VW drivers spectacular and fast everywhere. I was impressed by Evans as well, very spectacular. Little bit disappointed with Tanak as he usually is more spectacular and faster in times as well. But the biggest disappointment came already on our way home hearing JML has lost 8 min on the last stage.

This time I was actually watching rally with my own eyes rather than through camera screen so have only this little video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlT-PtKNLc0

[cosmin_sb]

Ogier finished the SS18 in 13:30min

[dimviii]

Neuville eeeeeeeekkk!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLuK7Yh2K2A&feature=youtu.be

[Eli]

Neuville eeeeeeeekkk!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLuK7Yh2K2A&feature=youtu.be

crazy fast, i really hope he'll win it

[dupanton]

Neuville is new leader :D :D

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9z-UQmIAAEfvJF.png

[KKS]

;1040327']But what he is saying is still true...it is quite stupid that an event like the historic rally has an effect on the road conditions of the WRC event. Of course the main problem is repeated stages in the first place...one of the stupidest things even to have come to rallying...
And what you want? 10 swepper machines for gravel an snow before ogier? And after it 3 rock place machines?
NO NO and NO! It's RALLY!
You have a car and you have a stage, right HERE , right NOW. If you can manage to be fast in this condition - you be winner, if not - go home and grove your vineyards.

[jonkka]

Thierry might just take the lead...

[Francis44]

Surprising Neuville, maybe the car is really developing and he can challenge top 3 in the championship.

[cosmin_sb]

today Ogier recover 16.6s to Mikkelsen but lost 4s to Neuville in 134km . Tomorrow will be only 46km. Can Neuville win the rally?

[KKS]

Great drive by Nueville and Meeke this afternoon.
Maybe it sounds a bit paradoxically, but Neuville deserves win this Rally Sweden.

[WUff1]

So why did Ostberg actually think he could win this?

Think it was a rare moment of aggressiveness in his thinking. Now he´s back to his regular driving style, reliable but no winning guy at all. Typical position 4 driving style. Reminds me of Sepp Wiegand in ERC 2014.

[jonkka]

today Ogier recover 16.6s to Mikkelsen but lost 4s to Neuville in 134km . Tomorrow will be only 46km. Can Neuville win the rally?

Too many variables and too slender lead to say for sure. Theoretically yes as running order changes but then again, it's pretty long way to go and VW is still the better car.

[N.O.T]

nice battle... lets see who will be the most nose in first tomorrow.

[dimviii]

Neuville took the jump record too

iRally ‏@Official_iRally
RALLY UPDATE: @thierryneuville 's jump on Colin's Crest was 44m, breaking the record! #WRC #RallySweden #iRally

[EightGear]

Abbring lost 6th gear.

[N.O.T]

Surprising Neuville, maybe the car is really developing and he can challenge top 3 in the championship.

yes, maybe the car has its own evolving mechanism...

[KKS]

Does Nuevilles i20 have any tech uptdates? or it's same car as in 2014?

[Francis44]

yes, maybe the car has its own evolving mechanism...

Ofcourse I meant Hyundai really is developing the car, If you weren't able to understand.

[A FONDO]

Great places Koceens, I agree it would be a shame to lose the pure feeling when filming all cars.

Tomorrow morning will be hot, when was the last time we had top 3 in 10 seconds before the last day?

[J.Lindstroem]

;1040327']But what he is saying is still true...it is quite stupid that an event like the historic rally has an effect on the road conditions of the WRC event. Of course the main problem is repeated stages in the first place...one of the stupidest things even to have come to rallying...

I agree to 100%. In no other sport in the world would a world top competition be affected by a show off class like the "historic rally". Would a champions league game be affected by an all star game of old half blind fotball players? In my opinion it just shows why rallying has a hard time to reach top level sponsors and attract the big audience. It is still just a little hobby sport like cross country skiing or minigolf.

Ridiculous!

[EstWRC]

Does Nuevilles i20 have any tech uptdates? or it's same car as in 2014?

i have the same question, i dont doubt in Neuville himself, he is very fast but they were nowhere in Monte and now he is crazy fast. Paddon also in sixth place.

[J.Lindstroem]

Sounds like you are suprised about it. Of course they are developing the car. The 2015 i20 is brand new.

[stefanvv]

And what you want? 10 swepper machines for gravel an snow before ogier? And after it 3 rock place machines?
NO NO and NO! It's RALLY!
You have a car and you have a stage, right HERE , right NOW. If you can manage to be fast in this condition - you be winner, if not - go home and grove your vineyards.

Big party at Your house if Ogier looses?;)

[mousti]

Sounds like you are suprised about it. Of course they are developing the car. The 2015 i20 is brand new.

Not really, big update has to come probably with new shell..

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[stefanvv]

Does Nuevilles i20 have any tech uptdates? or it's same car as in 2014?

I think they have something new, but can't say what is, just what is not - paddle shift & engine

[N.O.T]

can we please remove Ostberg from he WRC please ? i do not think anyone needs him in their lives right now...

[KKS]

Big party at Your house if Ogier looses?;)

Big party in my house if somebody else was leading a rally. And not find a million reasons why it's not Ogier ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

New record jump at CC for Neuville.. 44 metres. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B90O1bTCUAIxAm5.jpg:large

[EightGear]

Sounds like you are suprised about it. Of course they are developing the car. The 2015 i20 is brand new.
The brand new car will come in the summer.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Your rally leader Saturday night.. who's have thought that on Thursday... :erm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B90NnNIIIAEtYFC.jpg:large

[KKS]

I think they have something new, but can't say what is, just what is not - paddle shift & engine
Developing 2014 spec before launch new 2015 version? It's reasonable?
And according to ewrc his chassis done only MC'15 and Sweden'15 (and few promo events)

[KKS]

uuuhuuuu jumped to unmarked zone :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7RvCjhD7s&feature=youtu.be

[Reis Eduardo]

Sebastien Ogier will have a suspended two-minute time penalty hanging over him for the next 13 World Rally Championship rounds after a speeding infringement on the Rally Sweden recce.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117689

[AL14]

Tomorrow Ogier will win this rally and we'll come back to our boring lifes waiting for another rally of a boring championship.
Really enjoyed the battle today though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re i20 WRC 2015:

"Just three weeks after the 2014 World Rally Championship finale in the Wales Rally, Hyundai Motorsport is already testing its i20 racer in preparation for its second season in the WRC.

Thierry Neuville, who won the Rally Deutschland last year, and Dani Sordo are the team’s appointed drivers for 2015 and they have already tested the new, substantially revamped version of last year’s car.

“We’ve spent a productive two days in the car this week, keeping us busy as we prepare for next season”, said Neuville. “It’s important to start as early as we can for the first rallies of 2015. We will now continue with our winter program so we can head into the New Year in the best shape.”

[stefanvv]

Developing 2014 spec before launch new 2015 version? It's reasonable?

I have no idea, but someone was mentioning upgrades on i20, so they might have some options to test with before the new car arrives - suspension, diffs, that kind of stuff

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Driver / Team interviews now on: http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[stefanvv]

Tomorrow Ogier will win this rally and we'll come back to our boring lifes waiting for another rally of a boring championship.
Really enjoyed the battle today though.

Yes, I also think Ogier will take it away, today was great though, Neuville took 110% of his starting position and Mikkelsen avoided big troubles.... and still nothing is certain before the finish line

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Record jump at CC... :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7RvCjhD7s

[KKS]

Driver / Team interviews now on: http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

I saw two friends and one champ. On champ face I can read this: "If my way, I would have throwing you piece of shit", but he should talk general words

[janvanvurpa]

Seriously do you really think it matters where Ogier is in the order? 1st or 20th he''s more than able to win. Mikkelsen won't be able to defend a half a minute lead despite being in a Polo and near Ogier in start position. This really does sound like an old LP by Sour Grapes stuck in a groove and revolving at half speed!


Real simple question, its yes or no..have you seen in person what Swedish gravel roads look like after 20-30 powerful cars with real studs pass---when the road surface is not hard frozen?

Very simple question....

Next; can you say RUTS??

You say that it makes difference to anybody to drive on a clean smooth road versus driving whole stages in ruts 1" to 7" deep the whole way.

I don't think I agree.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I saw two friends and one champ. On champ face I can read this: "If my way, I would have throwing you piece of shit", but he should talk general words

Question is, will Ogier go flat-out to win and risk going off in a snow bank when his only rival for the Championship (Latvala) isn't scoring many points here ?

I dont think he will but rather wait for Neuville & Mikkelsen to race each other and make mistakes...

[KKS]

I think he will try.

[HaCo]

Starting order, anyone?

[janvanvurpa]

SS17: OGIER moaning again...
"I didn't throw anything away, but it was terrible to be first on the road here. It was that bad. Probably five seconds here. It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."

He didnt lose that much to Mikkelsen... and Neuville setting the same time as Ogier.

SS17: MIKKELSEN
He is six-tenths quicker than Ogier. "A very tricky stage, lots of loose. Just one more stage to go now. I reckon we will have a very interesting day tomorrow."


Silly young Ogier because of his extreme inexperience in life, looks at things wrong:
Its a shame the class he is in wrecks the road for the class for the guys who carried the sport before his little recent arrival.

[Eli]

Starting order, anyone?

the opposite from today while rally 2 will start before them

[WUff1]

Question is, will Ogier go flat-out to win and risk going off in a snow bank when his only rival for the Championship (Latvala) isn't scoring many points here ?

I dont think he will but rather wait for Neuville & Mikkelsen to race each other and make mistakes...

He´ll attack, I´m sure. It´s only 9.6 sec.

[stefanvv]

the opposite from today while rally 2 will start before them

Really? So Ogier starts last of WRC?

[EightGear]

No. Reversed rally standings.

[stefanvv]

No. Reversed rally standings.

Thx. Seems I got it wrong

[skarderud]

can we please remove Ostberg from he WRC please ? i do not think anyone needs him in their lives right now...
With a puncture, gearboks/sensor problems and electrical failure, everyone in the world "need" Mads more in wrc than anyone need you and your endless moaning, bitcing and immature comments that most really dont care about. Get an haircut and get a job!

[gianni123]

WRC Rally sweden - day 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHsKdqQvKjk

[stefanvv]

Silly young Ogier because of his extreme inexperience in life, looks at things wrong:
Its a shame the class he is in wrecks the road for the class for the guys who carried the sport before his little recent arrival.

Exactly what I noticed yesterday watching the historics. That's why these have to be in separate events so we can enjoy these classes runs.

[KKS]

Best Of Rally Day2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFxt8EfX5oU

[pettersolberg29]

Might have missed this earlier in the thread, but what are people's thoughts on Protasov? Obviously not in terms of championship threat etc, but his pace looks like it is on the way up, and after a stage win in Sweden could a top 5 position be possible by the end of the year?

[N.O.T]

With a puncture, gearboks/sensor problems and electrical failure, everyone in the world "need" Mads more in wrc than anyone need you and your endless moaning, bitcing and immature comments that most really dont care about. Get an haircut and get a job!

I am too handsome to have a haircut... my handsomeness is 40% in my hair... so no.

I have a job as well.

so what else is there ?? a yes... get rid of that Norwegian of nothingness, i mean you have all the oil int he world gibe him a job in one of the north sea rigs.

[stefanvv]

Quotes after day two of the Rally Sweden

Sébastien Ogier, Volkswagen Polo R WRC #1
“I am really extremely happy with my performance today. Julien and I gave it everything. We have been right on the very limit on every stage. I am now looking forward to tomorrow, as it promises to be one of the most exciting final days in recent times. Compliments to Thierry Neuville, who was equally impressive as my team-mate Andreas Mikkelsen. However, the boys know to look out, as I am here to win!”

Jari-Matti Latvala, Volkswagen Polo R WRC #2
“We tried to use the day to test various set-ups. After ending yesterday well off the pace, today was a good opportunity to do this. Tomorrow we will try to push hard on the Power Stage and pick up a few points towards the Drivers’ Championship. Then it will be a matter of moving on from Sweden and focussing fully on the next challenge in Mexico.”

Andreas Mikkelsen, Volkswagen Polo R WRC #9
“That was an extremely exciting day for us at the Rally Sweden. The situation was rather unusual for us at first: having to defend a lead. I made two mistakes that cost us time in the morning. The biggest of these was spinning on the ‘Vargåsen’ stage after planting the front of our Polo in a snow bank. I had to turn round, which was a complicated procedure and took 20 seconds. However, the afternoon was far more to my liking again, and we made up a lot of time. We made the most of our starting position and there is not much between us and first place. That remains our main goal. The same thing applies tomorrow, as has applied throughout the entire rally for us: flat out, no tactics.”

Jost Capito, Volkswagen Motorsport Director
“A straightforward race for victory, with first and third place separated by just a few seconds – that was rallying at its very best today. The drivers could not employ any tactics today and just had to drive flat out right from the first metre. That is exactly what the spectators want to see. Our pairings of Andreas Mikkelsen / Ola Fløene and Sébastien Ogier / Julien Ingrassia drove fantastically in the battle for the lead. However, Thierry Neuville also deserves great respect, as he produced a fantastic performance. This three-way battle will keep us on the edge of our seats right up until the finish. For me, it is impossible to predict who will win tomorrow. It is like roulette – any number could come up trumps.”

[stefanvv]

Might have missed this earlier in the thread, but what are people's thoughts on Protasov? Obviously not in terms of championship threat etc, but his pace looks like it is on the way up, and after a stage win in Sweden could a top 5 position be possible by the end of the year?

He is doing fine. Looks better Ford for him than Citroen. In my eyes he is improving, has a chance to catch Prokop as best privateer by the end of the year. Let's see.

[N.O.T]

Might have missed this earlier in the thread, but what are people's thoughts on Protasov? Obviously not in terms of championship threat etc, but his pace looks like it is on the way up, and after a stage win in Sweden could a top 5 position be possible by the end of the year?

i think you should focus on following the historics and the Rx where peter Solberg competes. It will be good for everyone.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B909koKIYAEoLrh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B90QYXHIMAA3CI2.jpg


photos from borl
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/sets/72157650762495322/

[trifonvl]

Sunday starting list:
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-section7-Sunday-15th-February-2015.pdf

[dimviii]

jumps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vhycc6BKQ8

[skarderud]

As i understand, ogier is risking a 2 min penalty, or an exlusion.
Due to speeding 5 times!
That will shake things around a bit.

[pettersolberg29]

i think you should focus on following the historics and the Rx where peter Solberg competes. It will be good for everyone.

You're so vastly unpleasant, and all for nothing. Such a pity.

[skarderud]

I am too handsome to have a haircut... my handsomeness is 40% in my hair... so no.

I have a job as well.

so what else is there ?? a yes... get rid of that Norwegian of nothingness, i mean you have all the oil int he world gibe him a job in one of the north sea rigs.
What kind of job? In norway we call it NAV, maybe?

[dimviii]

What kind of job? In norway we call it NAV, maybe?

he owns 3 ladyboy bars.

[noel157]

Citroen racing Saturday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npar69fweZE&feature=youtu.be

[skarderud]

he owns 3 ladyboy bars.
That would explain some of it, yes.

[N.O.T]

What kind of job? In norway we call it NAV, maybe?

i am trying to find molecular targets that inhibit growth or initiate differentiation in haematopoietic stem cells...

to put it simply i am trying to give the dads and moms of this world the chance to answer "no you won't" when their 9 year old without hair and with tubes down its throat asks " will i become an angel mommy" ???

It is a very hard job and very few of us have the brains to do it and accept the responsibility... maybe ?

in other words.. you are dealing with a smarter than you, younger than you, better person than you and way more handsome than you person.... do not fight it... enjoy it.

[N.O.T]

he owns 3 ladyboy bars.

i plan to expand in norway the next few months... save the locals the time from going to Thailand for the summer

[COD]

Nice to see a real battle for the win since long time ago. Rooting for Mikkelsen, just because of my pickems ��
Hope for the sake of interest, that winner will be someone else than Ogier. Anyway, hope it will be a good battle��

[stefanvv]

i am trying to find molecular targets that inhibit growth or initiate differentiation in haematopoietic stem cells...

You have a job for trying something? That sums up the job of all WRC field except Ogier for the moment.

[skarderud]

i am trying to find molecular targets that inhibit growth or initiate differentiation in haematopoietic stem cells...

to put it simply i am trying to give the dads and moms of this world the chance to answer "no you won't" when their 9 year old without hair and with tubes down its throat asks " will i become an angel mommy" ???

It is a very hard job and very few of us have the brains to do it and accept the responsibility... maybe ?

in other words.. you are dealing with a smarter than you, younger than you, better person than you and way more handsome than you person.... do not fight it... enjoy it.
Hahaha, yeah right!!!
I go more for my NAV theory.

[skarderud]

Tomorrow will be interresting, close between the 3 first, as it should be in wrc!

[N.O.T]

You have a job for trying something? That sums up the job of all WRC field except Ogier for the moment.

every job in the wolrd involves trying... very few involve succeeding...

[Rallyper]

Latvala is maybe not very bad but if Mads can't get the podium in Sweden with one of the VW's out of the game I say he is useless.

Paddon is pity once again. Even if he is strictly ordered to bring the car to the finish he can't be at the same pace as Prokop. My mistake to overrate him when driving in SWRC.

Positive thing is Neuville, hope he keeps the momentum.

Not useless, but don´t live up to expectations.

[Rallyper]

i am trying to find molecular targets that inhibit growth or initiate differentiation in haematopoietic stem cells...

to put it simply i am trying to give the dads and moms of this world the chance to answer "no you won't" when their 9 year old without hair and with tubes down its throat asks " will i become an angel mommy" ???

It is a very hard job and very few of us have the brains to do it and accept the responsibility... maybe ?

in other words.. you are dealing with a smarter than you, younger than you, better person than you and way more handsome than you person.... do not fight it... enjoy it.

So you´re a kind of rocket scientist? That don´t impress me.

[janvanvurpa]

i am trying to find molecular targets that inhibit growth or initiate differentiation in haematopoietic stem cells...

to put it simply i am trying to give the dads and moms of this world the chance to answer "no you won't" when their 9 year old without hair and with tubes down its throat asks " will i become an angel mommy" ???

It is a very hard job and very few of us have the brains to do it and accept the responsibility... maybe ?

in other words.. you are dealing with a smarter than you, younger than you, better person than you and way more handsome than you person.... do not fight it... enjoy it.


No he's not, he's and we are all dealing with a individual who is highly schooled in one tiny area, and because of some horrible malfunction of some parts of his brain, mistakenly thinks that he is brilliant in everything, rather than the one thing he is trained in..
You are a utter failure as a huiman being and disgusting reading your ranting and ravings..
You get a big A+ --we guess---in your little difficult field
You get an F- in you humanity..

Average score......50%,

And in THIS world, not your lab--in this world you are nothing.
Hence the appropriateness of the name NOT. Which should be Naught.

[N.O.T]

F- in humanity ?? I are sad now...

Will probably rant even harder tomorrow at some no good WRC driver to raise my self esteem...

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_sweden_2015/grr_swe5.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_sweden_2015/grr_320a0777.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_sweden_2015/grr_320a0787.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=19120&fotograf=100

[Quad]

Total top 5, Colin Crest Award.
(Each drivers best jump, out of two attempts)
1. T. Neuville, 44m
2. A. Mikkelsen, 41m
3. R. Kubica, 40m
4. Y. Protosov, 40m
5. C. Meeke, 39m

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91Oo2XCUAAj0_X.jpg


start list day 3
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1508995_10153147819744973_5001493309036140084_n.jp g?oh=2c4b2e9d26baf81f752587d849701e82&oe=554988C9&__gda__=1435141474_e9d9aa4918dd8d876b4b81101b399a2 f

[litifeta]

Interesting day ahead. Can TN hold out the VWs? Will we see team orders at VW creating a scandal? Will the fight between the VWs push both cars into making mistakes? Will Ostberg make a daring launch at the podium given there is only 45kms to go and he needs to gain that many seconds to get a spot?

[N.O.T]

Ostberg needs to be 1 sec/km faster than anyone else to be able to get that podium spot by driving... so yes it is quite possible given the speed of the Norwegian so far...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91HXblCIAAv8Zc.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91T6s7IYAAVLXf.jpg:large

[KKS]

Might have missed this earlier in the thread, but what are people's thoughts on Protasov? Obviously not in terms of championship threat etc, but his pace looks like it is on the way up, and after a stage win in Sweden could a top 5 position be possible by the end of the year?
In Ukraine he was good driver but not the best. It's quite a surprise for us been to see him in world arena. But now I see different videos from this year Rally Sweden and I like his driving, he looks fast. Of course still too many things to learn, but it seems he knows what do with it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica - nose first ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91anCCIEAAqYG0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91anRWIMAAxr2z.jpg

[KKS]

Interesting day ahead. Can TN hold out the VWs? Will we see team orders at VW creating a scandal? Will the fight between the VWs push both cars into making mistakes? Will Ostberg make a daring launch at the podium given there is only 45kms to go and he needs to gain that many seconds to get a spot?

I think if Andreas couldn't pass TN on first stage, he with a "magic" lose 2nd place to Ogier. And not push anymore.

[dimviii]

time penalty for Kubica

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B91ptOgCQAAZyC8.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

what's the problem ? with turbo?

[litifeta]

time penalty for Kubica

stereotypical of people in authority. Fail to manage their chain of responsibilities and pass their inefficiencies onto others. Kubica "had limited options" yet they still fine him instead of managing their obligations to the sport by taking it up with M-Sport's accreditation. Cowardly falling back on stupid "article 27.2.1" where a privateer is held captive by his suppliers.

[danon]

http://s14.postimg.org/4f31xzrbl/image.jpg

[Mk2 RS2000]

Paddon is pity once again. Even if he is strictly ordered to bring the car to the finish he can't be at the same pace as Prokop. My mistake to overrate him when driving in SWRC.



A couple of points that you make like to consider
1. Paddon is driving a car that was not set up for him and that he only had a half day test session in the car. He has reported in the NZ news media that the differentials are at a different setting than he is used to and because of that had had to change his driving style as he was experiencing difficulties getting the car to turn in and maintain corner speed and that he has had to be more aggressive in his style to overcome that.
2. Snow and/or ice is a new experience for him and by the end of this event he will have probably doubled the total distance that he has driven on it during his lifetime. He sure has a lot to learn about it for in NZ we don't experience European type winters, our snow is on the mountains and there are no roads there. If we do get an occasional snowfall at lower levels that is anymore than about 25mm it is regarded as a national disaster and close all highways that are affected.

I think that it is too early in the season to pass judgement on any driver for as the year progresses some will grow and some will fall by the wayside. We need to enjoy the moment and the skills they display, they are all special people with a bravery and a talent that we can only admire.

[dimviii]

what's the problem ? with turbo?

turbo pressure is limited from regulations to 2,5 bar.
Kubicas fiesta was overboosting (more than 2,5 bar) so they told that to Msport to fix it.
Turbo pressure controlled from ecu(engine control unit)
at ecu only msport have access(ecu is locked,even teams they have buy any fiesta cant change anything at mapping)
its nothing mysterious,can happen.
unlucky Kubica,but at this rally wasn t at any good place.Go figure if he was at some 2nd or 3rd position and had a penalty of 5 minutes.

[Barreis]

Day one...
http://youtu.be/OZHk1hIIiBQ

[6789]

Day one...
http://youtu.be/OZHk1hIIiBQ

Says video is private :/

[Barreis]

Copyright details: Audiovisual content administered by: Red Bull, youtube said few minutes ago. :P

[karl59]

[QUOTE=SS17: OGIER moaning again...

"I didn't throw anything away, but it was terrible to be first on the road here. It was that bad. Probably five seconds here. It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."]


...the stupid historic rallly... - the unsympathetic husband of Mrs. Kaiser should know that the historics got more entries than the WRC and that it is more interesting to watch the historics

like Petter and Arne than to hear 2 days of bad comments of the french girl which cannot go fast on first road position.

Ted Ligety comes as 25th on the skiing slope and wins and he has no superior device like Sebastienne or how shall I call her..

Put Neuville and Kubica in Latvala´s and Mikkelsen´s cars and the french girl would no longer be the winner!!!


What is your opinion?

[stefanvv]

[QUOTE=SS17: OGIER moaning again...

"I didn't throw anything away, but it was terrible to be first on the road here. It was that bad. Probably five seconds here. It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."]


...the stupid historic rallly... - the unsympathetic husband of Mrs. Kaiser should know that the historics got more entries than the WRC and that it is more interesting to watch the historics

like Petter and Arne than to hear 2 days of bad comments of the french girl which cannot go fast on first road position.

Ted Ligety comes as 25th on the skiing slope and wins and he has no superior device like Sebastienne or how shall I call her..

Put Neuville and Kubica in Latvala´s and Mikkelsen´s cars and the french girl would no longer be the winner!!!


What is your opinion?

I don't have opinion for last sentences, but agree that historics have it's charm and this 2 events shouldn't mix, because each disturbs the other, so I agree with Ogier as well about this.

[N.O.T]

[QUOTE=SS17: OGIER moaning again...

"I didn't throw anything away, but it was terrible to be first on the road here. It was that bad. Probably five seconds here. It's a shame that we have to follow the stupid historic rally."]


...the stupid historic rallly... - the unsympathetic husband of Mrs. Kaiser should know that the historics got more entries than the WRC and that it is more interesting to watch the historics

like Petter and Arne than to hear 2 days of bad comments of the french girl which cannot go fast on first road position.

Ted Ligety comes as 25th on the skiing slope and wins and he has no superior device like Sebastienne or how shall I call her..

Put Neuville and Kubica in Latvala´s and Mikkelsen´s cars and the french girl would no longer be the winner!!!


What is your opinion?

Ogier is right... the historics are nice especially in museums and their overweight drivers at the hamburger shop... now if they want to rally instead, they should not mix with the WRC or if they do, they should do it without intrefering with the event.

If you put kubica in the VW it would be a really bad financial choice by VAG and they do not do such things.

Neuville would be interesting on some events but no for the majority of them...

Ogier would still run in circles around them or cause them to crash.

[karl59]

So you don´t appreciate Neuville´s efforts today using a rather old fashioned Hyundai?

[N.O.T]

So you don´t appreciate Neuville´s efforts today using a rather old fashioned Hyundai?

his effort is good for sure especially in an event like Sweden but his place is due to other reasons rather than pure driving and speed... if he manages to maintain that tomorrow and not eaten alive by Ogier and mikelssen then i would be really really impressed... and i am very hard to impress.

[AL14]

Ogier is the best rally driver in the world at the moment. He is complete, strong, fast, familiar to all surfaces etc...
Given that this year he is the most boring and whining champion I've ever known.
Read at all his statement from new years eve till today: every single sentence that came out of his mouth was referring to his start position, on every interview, at the end of all the stages, it's something like an obsession.
I mean, he can be right, I agree it's a stupid rule but all this whining and complaining is so much annoying, more if you consider he is the best.
And the ironic side of this story is that on the last 4 world rallys, being first on the road has been a huge advantage for him. In Spain he had clear view instead of dust fog (and he won champioship there), in Galles was clear that the firsts on the road had benefit too, in Monte he put snow on the road and here in Sweden in friday being first was better as well.
I wonder when he will stop whining about it if he will ever do.

[Sulland]

he owns 3 ladyboy bars.

That would explain a thing or two.......
But again a smart way of fooling money from drunk men, and some of them gets the surprise of their lifetime!!

[EstWRC]

Tänak's video about Rally Sweden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLVkiz01dCM&feature=youtu.be

[N.O.T]

The ruts are ridiculous...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1oTwGvjFzs

[RS]

I think Ogier will close the gap today, but Neuville is doing an amazing job to be leading. A more convincing performance than his Deutschland win really.

My prediction: Ogier, Neuville, Mikelssen.

[J.Lindstroem]

No he's not, he's and we are all dealing with a individual who is highly schooled in one tiny area, and because of some horrible malfunction of some parts of his brain, mistakenly thinks that he is brilliant in everything, rather than the one thing he is trained in..
You are a utter failure as a huiman being and disgusting reading your ranting and ravings..
You get a big A+ --we guess---in your little difficult field
You get an F- in you humanity..

Average score......50%,

And in THIS world, not your lab--in this world you are nothing.
Hence the appropriateness of the name NOT. Which should be Naught.

WOW. I think sombody is a bit jelous! This NOT guy is a scientist fighting cancer and you give him an "F- in humanity". Shit man you won't get the nobel prize this year either will you?

[HaCo]

I think Ogier will close the gap today, but Neuville is doing an amazing job to be leading. A more convincing performance than his Deutschland win really.

My prediction: Ogier, Neuville, Mikelssen.

It think you're right. Ogier is a master, or he breaks it, or he takes it. It will be even hard for Neuville to keep Mikkelsen behind. Mikkelsen has the superior car, just made too many mistakes, the rally would be in his pocket. Something you hear little Seb never moaning about. ;)


But still: fingers double, triple crossed for my countryman Neuville!!!

(it's a pity the country flags disappeared under the nicknames like in the past on this forum)

[6789]

JML says he has been testing incorrectly?

[Tom206wrc]

So SS19 is on ;)

I hope Lefèbvre will manage to pass Ählin for the symbolic podium in WRC2(even if not registered)...that would be a fantastic result for a premiere in Sweden :D

[janvanvurpa]

WOW. I think sombody is a bit jelous! This NOT guy is a scientist fighting cancer and you give him an "F- in humanity". Shit man you won't get the nobel prize this year either will you?

Hej Lindström, kan du inte läsa därnere i Småland? titta en gång till.
I give him an A for being a good lab assistant...there are thousands of people in my city alone++some are freinds and customers of mine+---fighting cancer..
So good for them, and good for him...

But those people do not write 90% of what they write, or speak as complete contempt for, as far as we can see from his own words, complete contempt---vanakt, om det ger intrycket bättre---for nearly everybody in this sport..
Try to preciscera det här med olika områder.... In this world.....MOTORSPORT, there is a hierarchy, and those who 90% of the time just call most everybody is the sport....when they are incapable, and never even dared to do even a ''village event'' gets rather ridiculous and silly....
And he does have nothing but contempt for everybody in the sport and here in this little forum...
and many are sick of reading same droning crap for years..
Never humorous, never creative, never thoughtful, just everybody is useless and stupid in the whole rallyworld but him--and he is not part of it.

(Hur vet du han gär ett dug nyttig i labbet? Om han beterer sig på jobbet som har uppträdar här, och varför skulle han vara annat? Då finns en bra chans has är lika bruklösa där som här..)

And your analysis of me being jealous...:rolleyes:
Shirley you cannot be serious... I am jealous of nobody, especially a mere lab-rat, gissa igen grabben.

[HaCo]

Kubica 5min penalty?

[raybak]

Kubica 5min penalty?

For overboost from the Msport ecu.

Also Ogier should have been excluded for his speeding, in Rally Australia the first offence for speeding is a fine, the second offence is a time penalty and the third exclusion. Why is it different for other World Rallies?

[6789]

For overboost from the Msport ecu.

Also Ogier should have been excluded for his speeding, in Rally Australia the first offence for speeding is a fine, the second offence is a time penalty and the third exclusion. Why is it different for other World Rallies?

Yeah - consistency would be nice

[Tom206wrc]

Oh no Evans faster than Meeke on second split SS19 :mad:

[HaCo]

Evans vs Meeke... Evans faster this time!

[arko5]

Ostberg out...

[6789]

Ostberg appears to be stopped n WRC+ as well

[KKS]

Mads.... u can't do that

[6789]

Andreas up by 0.7 on first split!

[MTA]

Standing on Värmullsåsen and waiting for it to begin. Access roads in the beginning is so narrow that it is not possible to pass parked cars and very unpleasant officials who said we had to blame ourselves who drive onto the official parking road although they took charge. Was the same last year. Will be interesting to see how to get out from the queue but fortunately, we are far ahead so maybe can go the SS out.

[Tom206wrc]

Ostberg out...


Oh no he seemed so fast on split one SS19 ;(

[6789]

Mads appears to be moving again

[HaCo]

Mads out, where is Citroen from their glory years?

[Rallyper]

Ostberg moving again.

[KKS]

Mikkelsen faster 0.7 first split. Nueville +2.2

[arko5]

Ostberg moving again

[KKS]

ohohoh equal VW on split2

[6789]

Ogier and Andreas are even at split point 2!

[KKS]

Ostberg moving again

on full speed?

[Rallyper]

Ogier tastes same what he did last days. Lot of snow on the road from the snowbanks.

[6789]

Andreas drops 1.3 secs

[HaCo]

30km to go.

[6789]

Mikkelsen, Neuville +3.7, Ogier +6.7

[Rallyper]

TN has nothing to set against the two Polos... :(

[KKS]

MadsOstberg (https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg) 14:42.8 "I had a problem with my handbrake. I blocked all for wheels two times and we hit a snow bank."

[GallardoGT]

Holy moly what a final and remember Thierry and Adreas don't have new paddle shifter like Seb!

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B932smcIUAAQOlY.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B932snMIgAAwG2X.jpg

[HaCo]

TN has nothing to set against the two Polos... :(

That's why he just has to finish this rally. He had his glory, Hyundai will make him a better car.

[HaCo]

Tanak 4th, smart rally.

[Micke_VOC]

Picture of Mads Östberg off.
Photo: Lars Blondell

[jparker]

So, who is going to take the Power Stage? What's your guess?