2014 Le Man 24 Hours Thread

[steveaki13]

So I guess with just under a week to go, we should open the race thread.

Final entry list I guess

http://www.24h-lemans.com/en/race/entry-list_2_2_1980.html


So Qualifying starts Wednesday Evening

Add to the thread guys

[journeyman racer]

Great! I've been looking forward to the biggest sporting event in the world getting underway this weekend!

[MrJan]

Can't wait, gutted that I'll miss most of it :(

Anyone know a way of listening other than through Radio Le Mans online? I'll be driving for most of Sunday and would love to be able to have updates without going sky high on my data usage on the phone (it;s a works phone and I'll be castrated if I over use it!)

[big_sw2000]

Free practise currently stopped. Massive accident for Loic Duval in the Audi. By all accounts, he conscious and talking.

https://twitter.com/stuartg917/status/476746043334590464

Is that in the Porsche Curves

Steve

[MrJan]

Obviously a big smash, not very nice at all and good to see the Audi team saying that he's unhurt.

Looks like Toyota have the speed and unsurprisingly Porsche are a bit of the pace of the other teams. Hopefully Audi can be there or there abouts to make a race of it, especially given that Duval was quick with limited laps before the accident.

[MrJan]

Audi confirm that Loic Duval is unhurt apart from 2 grazes!!! As Adam Cooper highlighted it looks like the car went in backwards, but that's still extremely lucky and a testament to the build of the car. As last year sadly showed us fatalities in this sport are not a thing of the past, but safety has certainly come a long way.

Not seen footage of the crash (only the aftermath) but reminds me of the Gene accident on the same corner a few years ago, which was another huge one.

[steveaki13]

First Red of Qualifying has just past. I never realised that they had to open the roads again pretty much straight after Quali.

Its nice to see some new teams and car combos around this season.

Loving the look of that Nissan

[MrJan]

Session ended now, seeing the pictures of a trashed Aston made me fear the worst but driver okay. Session stopped early because of repairs to barriers, they really need to sort these things out as it seems to be a common theme in recent years.

[steveaki13]

Qualifying result[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2014_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans&action=edit&section=9)]Pole positions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_position) in each class are denoted in bold. The fastest time set by each entry is denoted in gray.[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans#cite_note-Qual_1-33)


Pos.
Class
No.
Team
Qualifying 1
Qualifying 2
Qualifying 3
Gap
Grid


1
LMP1-H
7
Toyota Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motorsport_GmbH)
3:25.313
3:22.589
3:21.789

1


2
LMP1-H
14
Porsche Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche)
3:23.928
3:22.708
3:22.146
+0.357
2


3
LMP1-H
8
Toyota Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motorsport_GmbH)
3:25.410
3:23.661
3:22.523
+0.734
3


4
LMP1-H
20
Porsche Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche)
3:23.157
3:22.908
3:24.136
+1.119
4


5
LMP1-H
3
Audi Sport Team Joest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joest_Racing)
3:26.445
3:23.271
3:23.364
+1.482
5


6
LMP1-H
2
Audi Sport Team Joest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joest_Racing)
3:26.388
3:24.276
3:24.729
+2.487
6


7
LMP1-H
1
Audi Sport Team Joest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joest_Racing)
No Time
3:26.490
3:25.814
+4.025
7


8
LMP1-L
12
Rebellion Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion_Racing)
3:34.922
3:31.180
3:29.763
+7.974
8


9
LMP1-L
13
Rebellion Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion_Racing)
3:33.117
3:31.608
3:33.050
+9.819
9


10
LMP2
46
Thiriet by TDS Racing
3:42.730
3:38.094
3:37.609
+15.820
10


11
LMP2
38
Jota Sport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Dolan)
3:45.928
3:44.482
3:37.674
+15.885
11


12
LMP2
35
OAK Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAK_Racing)
3:39.822
3:39.523
3:37.892
+16.103
12


13
LMP2
26
G-Drive Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAK_Racing)
3:38.843
3:41.446
3:38.000
+16.211
13


14
LMP2
36
Signatech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_Team) Alpine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(automobile))
3:39.490
3:38.769
3:38.089
+16.300
14


15
LMP2
48
Murphy Prototypes
3:41.502
3:28.207
3:39.091
+16.418
15


16
LMP2
47
KCMG
3:39.586
3:40.476
3:38.689
+16.900
16


17
LMP2
43
Newblood by Morand Racing
3:46.018
3:39.135
3:41.066
+17.346
17


18
LMP2
34
Race Performance
3:39.993
3:44.486
3:40.819
+18.204
18


19
LMP2
42
Caterham Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterham_Cars)
3:41.847
3:47.255
3:40.035
+18.246
19


20
LMP2
24
Sébastien Loeb Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9bastien_Loeb)
3:43.507
3:40.407
3:44.022
+18.618
20


21
LMP2
37
SMP Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
3:46.940
3:44.395
3:41.297
+19.508
21


22
LMP2
27
SMP Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
3:43.618
3:42.527
3:42.131
+20.342
22


23
LMP2
29
Pegasus Racing
3:49.046
3:42.438
No time
+20.649
23


24
LMP2
33
OAK Racing-Team Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAK_Racing)
3:42.998
3:48.325
3:43.158
+21.199
24

[steveaki13]

Qualifying result

25
LMP2
50
Larbre Compétition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larbre_Comp%C3%A9tition)
3:53.948
3:47.015
3:43.843
+22.054
25


26
LMP2
41
Greaves Motorsport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greaves_Motorsport)
No time
3:44.293
3:44.437
+22.504
26


27

0
Nissan Motorsports Global (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nismo)
No time
3:57.096
3:50.185
+28.396
27


28
LMGTE Pro
51
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
3:54.754
3:55.552
3:53.700
+31.911
28


29
LMGTE Am
81
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
4:02.452
3:57.665
3:54.665
+32.876
29


30
LMGTE Pro
73
Corvette Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_Racing)
3:56.443
3:55.038
3:54.777
+32.988
30


31
LMGTE Pro
97
Aston Martin Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_Racing)
3:55.067
3:56.516
3:54.891
+33.102
31


32
LMGTE Pro
74
Corvette Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_Racing)
3:59.445
3:57.160
3:55.190
+33.401
32


33
LMGTE Pro
52
Ram Racing
3:57.793
3:56.642
3:55.347
+33.558
33


34
LMGTE Pro
92
Porsche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche) Team Manthey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Manthey)
3:55.516
3:57.356
3:55.694
+33.727
34


35
LMGTE Am
98
Aston Martin Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_Racing)
4:00.017
3:57.445
3:55.644
+33.855
35


36
LMGTE Pro
91
Porsche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche) Team Manthey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Manthey)
3:56.584
3:57.682
3:55.745
+33.956
36


37
LMGTE Am
95
Aston Martin Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_Racing)
4:06.464
3:56.994
3:55.944
+34.155
37


38
LMGTE Am
61
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
3:56.919
3:56.917
3:55.977
+34.188
38


39
LMGTE Am
72
SMP Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Bears_Motorsport)
3:56.787
3:58.778
3:56.063
+34.274
39


40
LMGTE Am
88
Proton Competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Competition)
3:59.291
3:59.920
3:56.974
+35.185
40


41
LMGTE Am
77
Dempsey Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dempsey_Racing)-Proton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Competition)
3:57.004
3:58.373
3:57.230
+35.215
41


42
LMGTE Am
90
8 Star Motorsports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzo_Potolicchio)
No time
No time
3:57.217
+35.428
42


43
LMGTE Pro
99
Aston Martin Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_Racing)
3:57.258
Withdrawn
+35.469
–


44
LMGTE Am
60
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
4:22.744
4:01.425
3:57.274
+35.485
43


45
LMGTE Am
66
JMW Motorsport
4:05.046
3:58.512
3:57.757
+35.968
44


46
LMGTE Am
53
Ram Racing
3:59.794
4:02.175
3:57.958
+36.169
45


47
LMGTE Pro
71
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
3:58.330
3:58.086
No time
+36.297
46


48
LMGTE Am
76
IMSA Performance Matmut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSA_Performance_Matmut)
No time
4:06.021
3:58.398
+36.609
47

[steveaki13]

49
LMGTE Am
79
Prospeed Competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospeed_Competition)
4:01.226
3:59.012
No time
+37.223
48


50
LMGTE Am
75
Prospeed Competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospeed_Competition)
3:59.394
3:59.604
4:05.147
+37.605
49


51
LMGTE Am
58
Team Sofrev ASP
3:59.837
4:07.434
4:03.947
+38.048
50


52
LMGTE Am
57
Krohn Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krohn_Racing)
4:03.789
4:01.686
4:01.006
+39.217
51


53
LMGTE Am
70
Team Taisan
4:03.066
4:01.446
4:04.512
+39.657
52


54
LMGTE Am
67
IMSA Performance Matmut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSA_Performance_Matmut)
No time
4:03.903
4:03.277
+41.488
53


55
LMGTE Am
62
AF Corse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AF_Corse)
4:11.533
4:20.025
4:10.354
+48.565
54

[steveaki13]

Fingers crossed for a good race and not as many crashes as we saw in Quali.

See you later.

[raybak]

Car 79 has been moved in to Pro category. Just the 2 drivers to do the whole race though.

Ray

[journeyman racer]

Must be pretty exciting with the race start being so close.

[steveaki13]

Car 79 has been moved in to Pro category. Just the 2 drivers to do the whole race though.

Ray

Is that allowed? I thought modern regs had a section stating each driver cannot race to much of the 24 hours?

I suppose as long as they do not run 6 hours each at a time and do 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 it will be ok?

[steveaki13]

Anyone watching the start?

I have a sudden engagement which means I will probably miss the first hour or so. I may have to watch delayed. Or certainly not post in that time.

[MrJan]

Anyone got a stream other than the official site? My usual site doesn't have a link.

Edit: Scratch that, found one at http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2011/07/british-eurosport-1-hd-live-online-british-eurosport-1-free-sports/

[steveaki13]

Are you able to watch much of it MrJan. You said you may miss a fair bit?

I have no streams and it appears no one else is around. :(

[steveaki13]

And its go in Le Man. 23 hours 59 minutes to go then. :)

[raybak]

good streams here http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x37u01_lemans-tv_live-24-hours-of-le-mans-2014/1#video=x10uqt7

[steveaki13]

The Toyota's have some incredible pace. 3:23's already and most other cars in 3:24's/25s

[steveaki13]

I like the new Yellow Slow Zone. Great way to clear gravel or debris on a small scale without SC are endangering Marshalls

[MrJan]

Are you able to watch much of it MrJan. You said you may miss a fair bit?

I have no streams and it appears no one else is around. :(

I will probably be watching up to about 1am and then will have to go to bed. Will try and catch a couple hours in the morning but from 10am onwards I'll be relying on a decent 3g connection on my phone and Radio le Mans on TuneIn.

Official Le Mans site has a much better stream than in previous years.

First safety zone used, great idea to deal with the minor problems that normally just get left (such as gravel all over the track at the chicanes).

Gutted to see the Zeod fall by the wayside, was looking forward to that.

[steveaki13]

Gutted to see the Zeod fall by the wayside, was looking forward to that.

Me too

It seems terminal. Sad

[MrJan]

Me too

It seems terminal. Sad

Yep, gearbox stuff apparently. There's a certain irony that it's the old fashioned mechanical part of the car to fail, not the fancy dancy electrical stuff.

First hour flew by, only another 23 to go! Seems like Toyota have the pace but will be interesting to see how fuel stops and reliability shake out. Seem to remember Toyota suffering a bit from the later over the last two years. Plus the 7 car has just been reported for unsafe release so a possible penalty to come which negates a lot of what they gained while the 2 & 3 cars were getting themselves by the Porsches.

[MrJan]

Rain! Cat, pigeons, chaos.

[steveaki13]

Wow. Toyota and Audi off in the aquaplaning.

SC out and chaos

[MrJan]

Audi #3 looking in a pretty bad way. Got mixed up with the #8 Toyota and a Ferrari on Mulsanne. Poor barriers look like they will again cost us a good 30 minutes plus of race time.

[steveaki13]

Where is everyone else on this forum. We at least had about 5 or 6 on here last season. Seems like only us 2 now, sad state of affairs.

[MrJan]

Never seems that popular and it's nice weather out. If I wasn't supposed to be working then I'd be outdoors too. Suspect we'll get a few more later in the day when it reaches a better time of day in the US and Aus.

Amazing reply onboard that Porsche of the Toyota skittling out all the others. Looks like someone up ahead had slowed and all the others were slowing down but Lapierre didn't spot it until too late.

[steveaki13]

Yes.

Toyota #8 and Sam Bird clearly came across a group of slowing cars. Toyota spun and smashed the wall. While the Ferrari obviously hit the Audi.

The replay from on board the Porsche GT gave the best view. It also looked like he had been in the wall as well.

[MrJan]

Wet again. Amazing to see shots of one SC driving in the sunshine and then go onboard with someone on the other side of the track who is having to go so slowly that they're falling behind the SC.

[steveaki13]

Some real crazy weather out there indeed. Some cars struggling to keep up with the SC

[Ucci]

Why is P919 hybrid Nb.14 so far behind??

[rjbetty]

Hi guys, I might pop in later but am going out to work now. Cheerio.

[steveaki13]

Why is P919 hybrid Nb.14 so far behind??

After only half an hour, they had a technical issue. I forget what but the spent about 5 laps in the pits. Then Toyota #8 and Audi #3 crashed off in a heavy rain shower. #3 retired and #8 is now about 10 laps down but still running.

[MrJan]

Why is P919 hybrid Nb.14 so far behind??

It seemed to switch itself to pit limiter mode early on and limped from Indianapolis back to the pits and then lost quite a bit of time being fixed.

#20 now seems to have a slim lead, benefiting a lot from the last SC

[makinen_fan]

Guys, is there a better website to follow live timing than the official one?

[steveaki13]

Are you classing this as the official one? http://live.fiawec.com/

Cause I was watching live timing on Le Man site and move to FIA site.

[makinen_fan]

No I meant this one:
http://www.24h-lemans.com/live/en/

[MrJan]

I follow the 24h site, looks like same timings anyway. Like to have the option of a different video feed to what I'm getting on the Eurosport stream, although listening to Radio Le Mans means that the audio is about 30 seconds ahead.

[steveaki13]

http://live.fiawec.com/ is good. I follow that

[MrJan]

http://live.fiawec.com/ is good. I follow that

Pretty sure it's exactly the same data as what's on the 24h official site, certainly no additional information. Bonus of 24h is that you can minimise the main detailed timings to just have the key info and a small video thing (although you have to put it on mute to avoid the whiny american lass).

[steveaki13]

SC is out again.

I have to say this hasn't been the best start of Le Man I have ever seen. I remember a couple of the Audi v Peugeot battles raging full on for hours.

Anyway its still OK. Coming into my favourite time. Dusk into Dark

[MrJan]

We've had some crackers in recent years but think this still has promise. The Toyota is edging out a bit but think that reliability of the Audi will come into play soon. Shame that Porsche have dropped off a bit, early on looked like they might provide more of a challenge.

[steveaki13]

What happened to Porsche 20?

He was 3rd about 1:20 behind and then when I came back a while later (had to pop away from screen) he was 2 laps down.

I agree though it could still be a great race. Only 1:30 between them.

[Doc Austin]

What a great shame for the #7 Toyota. They totally controlled the race right up until they fell out.

[steveaki13]

Amazing really, but now we are surely down to Audi #1 v Porsche #20 battle.

[MrJan]

Just woke up what happened to the 7 car?

[steveaki13]

Just woke up what happened to the 7 car?

I am not 100% but they stopped in the pits with a fire on the car somewhere and retired a little later.

[steveaki13]

Audi #1 briefly stopping out on track, and then getting going again.

Strange situation. Luckily had over a lap lead.

[steveaki13]

Still going slowly. Could Porsche win this race. :eek:

[steveaki13]

Porsche 20 leads :eek:

[steveaki13]

More chaos, with Porsche 20 retiring.

Audi #2, Audi #1 and Toyota #8 the top 3. Porsche #14 in trouble too? Could be a Rebellion 4th?

[Rollo]

Audis #2 and #1 line astern now, unless there's a blow up in the last half hour, that is how they'll stay.

[ZeroAlpha]

Mark Webber limping into the pits, feeling really gutted for him.

[steveaki13]

Its turned into quite an eventful race.

And we are in the final minutes of another years 24 hour racing. Sad not to have anyone apart from Mr Jan to chat with. Last year was good chat on the thread, this year poor.

So poor I went to ten tenths to join their thread.

Anyway looks like its all over now.

[steveaki13]

Well done Audi, Toyota and Rebellion.

[Ucci]

Congrats to Audi for a brilliant job ! Toyota again amazing in the first part of the race, shame...
Porsche-quite a disater; they came to win (if somebody thinks that Porsche was here just to get some expirience for 2015, is very wrong...), they even lost fight in LM GTE Pro and GTE Am class.....

[MrJan]

Good race, just about had a decent enough 3g signal in the car to pick up most of it...although all the ups and downs confused me a bit. Certainly one to keep us guessing and the professionalism and reliability of Audi really shone through.

[Jag_Warrior]

For the first time in probably 15-20 years, I wasn't able to follow the race on TV and/or on the internet for most of the 24 hours. :( What little I got to see (on DVR) was good. And even though they've been dominate, I find it amazing that Audi was THAT solid over Porsche.

What I most enjoyed was the varied technical approaches. Let's see if I can get this right.
Audi: 4.0 liter V6 turbo diesel with a 2 MJ flywheel hybrid system.
Toyota: 3.7 liter V8 petrol with a 6 MJ super capacitor hybrid system.
Porsche: 2.0 liter V4 turbocharged petrol with a 6 liter battery hybrid system.

Other than being incredibly ugly now (I guess because of the new regs), the cars are quite distinctive from one another. It's great that they are allowed a certain amount of technical freedom.

[fansosek]

Fans video from 24h Le Mans 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzmNZ4ITz6w&list=UUPuxMHmU9fWvboHDBEHzY_w