[ERC] auto24 Rally Estonia 2014 (17-19.07.2014)

[Allar]

OFICIAL WEBSITE
http://www.rallyestonia.ee/
http://www.autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=40&race_id=273&lang_id=2&

Confirmed entries: http://rallyestonia.ee/competitors/erc/entry-list/
4WD
Kristian Sohlberg - Fiesta R5
Vassily Gryazin - Fiesta S2000?
Timmu Kõrge - Fiesta R5
Raul Jeets - Fiesta R5
Robert Consani - 207 S2000
Radik Shaymiev - 207 S2000
Alexey Lukyanuk -Lancer Evo X
Jean-Michel Raoux - 207 S2000

2WD
Eli Evans - Type-R
Jukka Korhonen - DS3 R3T

I know there are more, maybe u guys help me with the list.


Maybe:
Tänak
Kangur
Kruuda
Lappi
Gross
Kajetanowicz
Breen
Bouffier
Wiegand
Al-Rahji

[PLuto]

I think it is too early for the names, especially foreign drivers...

[tolis]

I think also an Australian will do the rally, but can't remember his name.

[sindroms]

I am quite sure Al-Rahji will be there.

[vino_93]

I think also an Australian will do the rally, but can't remember his name.

Eli Evans ;)

[Hartusvuori]

You can add Jukka Korhonen to 2WD.

[RS]

Given that Malcolm Wilson has talked about getting his R5 in ERC and Tanak is Estonian, is it safe to assume he will be there?

[Franky]

Given that Malcolm Wilson has talked about getting his R5 in ERC and Tanak is Estonian, is it safe to assume he will be there?

I remember reading an interview where Tänak said he doesn't know anything about ERC starts.

[sindroms]

Rally Estonia supplementary regulations - http://rallyestonia.ee/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/auto24-Rally-Estonia-2014-ERC_SR.pdf
Itinerary from page 25. Route looks almost same as in 2013.

[Allar]

only some of the stages are the same, there are allso new stages included: http://rallyestonia.ee/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Maps-of-SS_-Restricted-areas_RE-2014.pdf

[sindroms]

only some of the stages are the same, there are allso new stages included: http://rallyestonia.ee/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Maps-of-SS_-Restricted-areas_RE-2014.pdf

SS 2/4, 5/7, 6/8, 10/12 - exactly as in 2013
SS 1/3 - first part is new (used in 2010), rest of stage - 2013
SS 11/13 - first half has been used in 2013
SS 14 - new (used in 2010)
SS 15 - new.

[pucky54]

First entries for Rally Estonia are online :P

ENTRANT FIRST DRIVER NAT CO-DRIVER NAT CAR CLASS PRIORITY

RALLY ESTONIA OÜ KRISTI JEENAS Pilt1 RANELI HARAK Hungary PEUGEOT 107 WRC WRC YES *
CELICA RACING RAIKO KAUNISTE Pilt1 KRISTJAN KRAVETS TOYOTA CELICA WRC WRC NO

[kbalaazs]

First entries for Rally Estonia are online :P

ENTRANT FIRST DRIVER NAT CO-DRIVER NAT CAR CLASS PRIORITY

RALLY ESTONIA OÜ KRISTI JEENAS Pilt1 RANELI HARAK Hungary PEUGEOT 107 WRC WRC YES *
CELICA RACING RAIKO KAUNISTE Pilt1 KRISTJAN KRAVETS TOYOTA CELICA WRC WRC NO



Where can we find the entries?

Thank You

[Jeppe]

Where can we find the entries?

Thank You

You can find them directly from Estonian Autosport Union web notice board:
http://www.autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=27&race_id=273&lang_id=2&

[Franky]

You can find them directly from Estonian Autosport Union web notice board:
http://www.autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=27&race_id=273&lang_id=2&

Not sure if the ERC entries will go there. Also in the title of the page there is 'EMV' which stands for Estonian national championship.

[Kiiver]

Not sure if the ERC entries will go there. Also in the title of the page there is 'EMV' which stands for Estonian national championship.
ERC entries will not be published in autosport.ee Only the ones who starting in Estonian Championship. ERC entries will be in rallyestonia.com

[Allar]

ERC entryes are here: http://rallyestonia.ee/competitors/erc/entry-list/

[bluuford]

Today is the last day to enter with reduced fee to EuropeanRC Rally Estonia. Private entrant may save a bit over 600 eur! (1180 today, 1800 since tomorrow)

[Jarek Z]

Yet another rally with multiple entry lists ;)

[Allar]

Is Bouffier going to start? You can see him on a mug in a rally store along with Kruuda and Tänak: http://img.auto24.ee/images/eshop/auto24_rally_estonia/2014/cup01.jpg

[WUff1]

Is Bouffier going to start? You can see him on a mug in a rally store along with Kruuda and Tänak: http://img.auto24.ee/images/eshop/auto24_rally_estonia/2014/cup01.jpg

In my opinion it will be a suprise if Bouffier is going there. He seems to have a more narrow contract with Hyundai this year than last one, with more promotional duties too (he´s been to Sardinia too for promotional issues). Even if he lacks the budget, I´m sure he could have found the money for more ERC-rallies this year besides Lativa and Greece, if it wasn´t for his Hyundai contract.

[pantealex]

In my opinion it will be a suprise if Bouffier is going there. He seems to have a more narrow contract with Hyundai this year than last one, with more promotional duties too (he´s been to Sardinia too for promotional issues). Even if he lacks the budget, I´m sure he could have found the money for more ERC-rallies this year besides Lativa and Greece, if it wasn´t for his Hyundai contract.

Bouffier is in WRC Poland entrylist with Fiesta R5, so why not ERC Estonia ;)

[PLuto]

Bryan is trying to fight for start on each event, but he is not able to find enough money...

[Kiiver]

First official press conference of auto24 Rally Estonia is held tomorrow. And at least one good news will be announced.

[PLuto]

Not so big surprise, but Ott Tänak today officially confirmed for Rally Estonia with Ford Fiesta R5.

[bluuford]

There is a rumor that Siim Plangi might do Rally Estonia with R5 car

[RICARDO75]

There is a rumor that Siim Plangi might do Rally Estonia with R5 car

http://rally.ee/?a=a009&b=9985

[Kiiver]

Here is a longer story about Siim Plangi, Peugeot 208 R5 and auto24 Rally Estonia.
http://rallyestonia.ee/peugeot-sport-gives-siim-plangi-a-chance-to-drive-auto24-rally-estonia-with-peugeot-208-t16-r5/

[miniwintz]

No news about Lukyanuk? Wasn't he supposed to do summer ERC events with a R5 car?

[bluuford]

No news about Lukyanuk? Wasn't he supposed to do summer ERC events with a R5 car?
Lukyanuk will do at least Rally Estonia Estonian Championship with his Evo X. He told that his aim is Estonian Championship and Russian Championship title this year. So, if he wants GrN title, he must drive his Evo X.
Kruuda also told that he has now agreement with Peugeot for Poland, Finland and Rally Estonia.

[HarriK]

Kiviniemi with Juha Salo's ex evo x to Estonia.

[Allar]

Entrys will be closed tomorrow, i have to say i expected much stronger line-up, right now its just Estonian top drivers and Sohlberg.

[RS]

Entrys will be closed tomorrow, i have to say i expected much stronger line-up, right now its just Estonian top drivers and Sohlberg.

Me too. We knew Peugeot wouldnt go but I thought Skoda may send Lappi as these should be his type of roads. Next year things should better...

[Hartusvuori]

As far as I've understand it, Lappi will do Estonia.

[HarriK]

As far as I've understand it, Lappi will do Estonia.


We will be sure today about that...

[Tom206wrc]

No Karl Kruuda there :confused:

[Hartusvuori]

No Karl Kruuda there :confused:

Just yesterday Kruuda posted a newsletter that he'll do Rally Estonia and Rally Finland. Original plan is to do both with 208 R5, but of course after the extensive damage caused by a crash in Poland, it's reconsidered whether he can do Otepää with Peugeot or will he use Fiesta S2000.


Kruuda’s next event is the ERC-counting auto24 Rally Estonia from July 17-19 where he will be one of the favourites for victory having won the Super 2000 class for the last two years. The high-speed gravel event will also serve as the perfect warm-up for Rally Finland, where he returns to WRC 2 duty from July 31-August 3.

“I am pushing to use the Peugeot for Estonia rather than the Ford Fiesta I also drive and I hope it’s possible because Estonian is our next focus,” said Kruuda. “We have to remember things like what happened in Poland happen to everyone and you have to learn from the mistakes.”

[Allar]

Wiegand and Lappi are expected, lets see...

[HarriK]

Still no Lappi, no Wiegand. Let's wait until tomorrow still, but it might be that Skoda is not there...

[PLuto]

No Karl Kruuda there :confused:

Kruuda is on entry list.

[PLuto]

Still no Lappi, no Wiegand. Let's wait until tomorrow still, but it might be that Skoda is not there...

Wiegand told in Ypres that he will do Estonia.

[Allar]

From Estonian forum: Škoda motorsport sent their Entry form all ready two weeks ago! Organizers haven't added them to list yet.

[HarriK]

From Estonian forum: Škoda motorsport sent their Entry form all ready two weeks ago! Organizers haven't added them to list yet.

Yep, Skoda is there! Me too! =)

http://ralli.ee/euroopa-autoralli-meistrivoistluste-liider-esapekka-lappi-stardib-auto24-rally-estonial/

[RS]

Entry list: http://rallyestonia.com/competitors/erc/entry-list/

Should be quite a good event in the end. I expect Tanak to win this one.

[Mirek]

I'm surprised by presence of Eli Evans. Any more info about his plans or is that just one-off? A lot of ERC regulars missing. On the other hand there is a lot of Baltic, Nordic or Russian crews.

[PLuto]

I'm surprised by presence of Eli Evans. Any more info about his plans or is that just one-off?

Yes, it is one-off.

[mousti]

So no Gryazin here too, still health problems?

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[Ucci]

Entry list: http://rallyestonia.com/competitors/erc/entry-list/

Should be quite a good event in the end. I expect Tanak to win this one.

Three P208R5...I wonder how many of them will see the checkered flag???

[WUff1]

Not too bad entry list, and finally Tarabus back ;)

Does anybody knows more about the missing drivers (e.g. Kajto, Gryazin, etc.?

[Mirek]

Does anybody knows more about the missing drivers (e.g. Kajto, Gryazin, etc.?

Gryazin had some health problems. Regarding Kajto one guy from our autosport.cz forum wrote he heard he would do all remaining ERC events since Barum. Source was Polish rally radio during Rajd Polski.

[Tom206wrc]

Three P208R5...I wonder how many of them will see the checkered flag???


Same for me :rolleyes:

[Jarek Z]

Three P208R5...I wonder how many of them will see the checkered flag???

Maybe we should add this question to Pickems... as bonus points? ;)

[RS]

Fast, relatively smooth roads should be ideal stomping ground for the 208 should they not?

[bluuford]

There are numerous jumps in the rally, I hope they have enough spare rear windows. Their jumping/landing ability will be definitely tested properly.

[PLuto]

Maybe we should add this question to Pickems... as bonus points? ;)

And winner of this question will receive as prize part of broken rear window of 208 T16 :)

[Jarek Z]

And winner of this question will receive as prize part of broken rear window of 208 T16 :)

Or a broken radiator! ;)

[Jarek Z]

Does anybody knows more about the missing drivers (e.g. Kajto, Gryazin, etc.?

No Kajto in Estonia. According to Autoklub.pl, he is going to compete in the following 4 rounds of the ERC:
Barum Rally Zlín
Cyprus Rally
Rallye International du Valais
Giru di Corsica-Tour de Corse (or whatever this rally is called now)

[Kalm]

Sébastien Chardonnet will be there, good news !
https://www.facebook.com/SebastienChardonnet/photos/a.595424440493105.1073741825.339103376125214/705830566119158/?type=1&fref=nf

[megadrive]

Some short kinetic preview
http://youtu.be/i96xVbCSD1c

Rally ESTONIA 2014 – Preview
17-19 July 2014
FIA ERC – European Rally Championship

http://media.tumblr.com/17ebcc38c666ecae3265d4a94f08bd21/tumblr_inline_n7jlplzCGA1rk5glh.jpg (http://youtu.be/i96xVbCSD1c)

3 action-packed days,
15 exciting special stages,
235 breath-taking kilometres,
Special Stages Total – 235 km
Road surface – 99% gravel, 1 % tarmac

[WUff1]

Chardonnet is good news.

[COD]

Speaking of pickems, the Estonian pickems seem to have the entries of Ypres as driver choises...

[bluuford]

Egon Kaur with Evo X and Rainer Aus with Evo IX are also included in ERC list now.
That makes total ERC list to 65 crews (note that some Estonians are driving with finnish licence and under finnish flag - Koitla, Kruuda, Murakas).
Total entry list for the whole rally is around 170 crews.
Anyone speaking Estonian, can find traffic notes and parking restrictions during SSS here:
http://www.tartu.ee/data/RE_Tartu%20elanike%20teavitus_2014_A4_bleed5mm_PRI NT.pdf
I would say that this is the most spectacular city stage I have ever seen. It is partly like cobble stones, asfalt, uphill and downhill, probably some jumps (I have walked along this stage around hundred times and I belive that there is at least one jump), some very narrow corners and great viewing spots. There are even some bridges you can cross the stage during the live stage (no viewing allowed on the bridges, just for passing).
Whole stage is also shown live in couple of places on the stage (with some big screens), I belive, it is possible to see it in internet as well.

[Jarek Z]

Entry list has just been published at http://rallyestonia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/auto24-Rally-Estonia-ERC-Entry-list_approved-080714.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting the presence of Sébastien Chardonnet :)

[bluuford]

the most important stckers on the car: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q72/s720x720/10410793_616201881812218_7156421432613566496_n.jpg
;)

[mousti]

Onboard of Eli Evans testing for Estonia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9zaSSonYqc

[manthey]

the most important stckers on the car: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q72/s720x720/10410793_616201881812218_7156421432613566496_n.jpg
;)

what does it means? indication about open both hooks?

[Jeppe]

what does it means? indication about open both hooks?

;) ;) This side up => to keep it on all 4 wheels

[bluuford]

Tänak, Kõrge and Jeets did a short test today in South-Estonia
This is how the cars look like:
Tänak
http://rallifoorum.ee/foorum/download/file.php?id=76&sid=5d74b5714a71035ddde4b9b0daebdfb2

Jeets(front) and Kõrge (back)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsmbX8jCMAEpncw.jpg

Photoshop of Kõrge:
http://www.upload.ee/image/4158253/TD14_Timmu_K6rge_Ford_Fiesta_R5_22_140709_02_right __1_.jpg

Thuderstorms hit the testing site whole afternoon. Rally stages were furter away and most of them were dry today.

[bluuford]

Skoda has arrived and set up their service:
http://www.upload.ee/image/4158959/PicsArt_1405496213360.jpg

[PLuto]

Dont forget to make pickems - http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?34294-Pickem!-2014-Rally-Estonia

[HarriK]

Tomorrow to Estonia by morning ferry!

[Jarek Z]

Skoda has arrived and set up their service:
http://www.upload.ee/image/4158959/PicsArt_1405496213360.jpg

That means that the red cars stayed in Bohemia :(

[bluuford]

Weather update:

It has been relatively dry on rally stages during the last week (it was raining further south were the tests were held).
Tomorrow should be nice weather, some sun, some clouds, most probably no rain, temperature mostly between +19..+21 light wind

Friday, should be even nicer weather, some sun, ome clouds most probably no rain, temperature mostly +19..+23, light wind

Saturday, should be a bit more cloudier, still some sun, light wind, temperature from +19..+24. Rain possibility a bit higher, if it comes then it will be a little.

Night people, take some warmer jackets, it can be mostly between +15..+19 during the night.

See you all tomorrow.. will start at 07:30 from Tallinn to service and then to shakedown and qualification. I will be on the "old house" junction. Wearing some black, strange Bulgarian T-shirt :-P

[Mirek]

That means that the red cars stayed in Bohemia :(

Rumours that they might be back for Barum. In this moment only rumors...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak testing and interviewed on local channel TV6, which will also show the SSS live on Friday evening. :)

http://www.tv3play.ee/sisu/seitsmesed-uudised-2014/415639?autostart=true

[megadrive]

Weather update:

It has been relatively dry on rally stages during the last week (it was raining further south were the tests were held).
Tomorrow should be nice weather, some sun, some clouds, most probably no rain, temperature mostly between +19..+21 light wind

Friday, should be even nicer weather, some sun, ome clouds most probably no rain, temperature mostly +19..+23, light wind

Saturday, should be a bit more cloudier, still some sun, light wind, temperature from +19..+24. Rain possibility a bit higher, if it comes then it will be a little.

Night people, take some warmer jackets, it can be mostly between +15..+19 during the night.

See you all tomorrow.. will start at 07:30 from Tallinn to service and then to shakedown and qualification. I will be on the "old house" junction. Wearing some black, strange Bulgarian T-shirt :-P

Seems that qualify will pay a big role for the opener day, firts cars should have some problmes with traction.

[KKS]

And Lappi with his 6th time on QS in trouble with roadposition

[dimviii]

http://www.ohtuleht.ee/587883/galerii-rally-estonia-kvalifikatsiooni-voitis-martin-kangur-ott-tanaku-ees#11

[PLuto]

Complete start list to first leg: http://rally-base.com/2014/auto24-rally-estonia-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=467

[eib1]

ceremonial start:
http://sport.postimees.ee/2860463/suur-galerii-meeleolukas-rally-estonia-avapaev/3211737

[eib1]

Kangur won QS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cpGX2T16I

[garais22]

Photos from Shakedown http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/erc/795-foto-igaunijas-erc-kvalifikacija/

[RS]

Kruuda complaining something is lacking in the car because he is not hitting the rev limiter like he did last year. What car did he drive here last year?

I'm guessing it's just because the 208 has longer gearing.

[RS]

Lukyanuk quickest so far!

[eib1]

Plangi SS1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs0Cy96CAAAoKtm.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Lappi slower than Wiegand...

[RS]

Lappi was slower in shakedown too, quite surprising for these types of roads.

On Skoda QS video you can see Wiegand was driving more with the torque whereas Lappi kept shifting down to get more revs.

[JTGANG]

I think we must see Lukyanuk with a R5/S2000/RRC...Very fast driver !!!

[RS]

Lappi slower than Wiegand again even though Wiegand says he made lots of mistakes. Weird.

[Kalm]

what a time for Rainer Aus on SS2, he said they had incom problems , and drove some parts without hearing the codriver !

[liposh]

Lappi slower than Wiegand again even though Wiegand says he made lots of mistakes. Weird.

Had Skoda some tests before Estonia or was last Lappi´s touch with the steering wheel during Bohemia rally?

[Jeppe]

Had Skoda some tests before Estonia or was last Lappi´s touch with the steering wheel during Bohemia rally?

Noup. "Due to the tight schedule we were not able to drive here in a preliminary test" said EP at the interview. He also add that it takes first stages in the Friday to get used to driving these extremely fast winding roads..

[Mirek]

Still he shall be faster than Wiegand... a lot faster.

[liposh]

Jeppe: What to say? I am little bit disappointed and little bit angry. No test before Ypres, no test before Estonia. Wondering whether Skoda really wants the ERC drivers title or not? I understand it is easy to beat Peugeot this year because of those technical problems, but they will not have so much luck all the time in future.

Mirek: Yes, it is true. Lappi shall be faster than Wiegand. Maybe too much pressure. Lappi must finish and get some points. Who knows?

[RS]

It's clear from stage times of N4 cars that top speed matters a lot here.

[Juha_Koo]

Why is Tushkanova listed excluded?


It's clear from stage times of N4 cars that top speed matters a lot here.

Yes for sure that is the main reason, but I would also point out the characteristic of the roads, often winding through fields and there "crazy" N4 drivers can take Massive risks because for example like in Finland, there isn't anything solid to hit. Ofcourse this is a generalization and for sure most of the time also on these stages there is something to hit.

[Rallyper]

For sure the NA S2000 lacks of speed. Makes difference.

[RS]

Normal service resumes for Lappi on SS3.

I am a little surprised the 208s and DS3 aren't faster though, with their high top speed.

[raybak]

Tushkanova failed scrutineering with roll cage issues.

[Co-FIN]

Why is Tushkanova listed excluded?

Rallyradio said that problems with rollcage. Didnt pass scrutineering.

[makinen_fan]

Kangur's Fiesta.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10547574_10152633929954973_5876325090302353421_n.j pg

[RS]

Is the character of the stages the same for the whole rally or is there a chance for the S2000s to do better later on?

[RICARDO75]

Kruuda onboard live on you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2n_0OKkw20

[makinen_fan]

Kruuda onboard live on you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2n_0OKkw20

How cool would it be to have such a thing for wrc events. We can only dream...

[PLuto]

Is the character of the stages the same for the whole rally or is there a chance for the S2000s to do better later on?

I think that character of stages is +- same, if I remember well from previous year. But maybe there will be a new stage.

[FUNKYXXXXX]

Kruuda onboard live on you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2n_0OKkw20

It`s paused to me.

[rallyfiend]

How cool would it be to have such a thing for wrc events. We can only dream...

Why doesn't Eurosport do it?

Why just dig at the WRC?!

[PLuto]

For me this result of production cars is not surprise. I am disappointed that Koitla and Kaur are out, they should be on podium too...

[RICARDO75]

Kruuda will star SS7 in 4 minutes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plangi SS1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs0Cy96CAAAoKtm.jpg:large

Those 208T16's dont have much luck do they ... :rolleyes:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No wonder Kangur had a big off ... :crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1dkVKIgAAe0Fj.jpg:large


Reminder - Link for the live SSS:

http://www.tv6.ee/content/auto24-rally-estonia-2014-1

[svstock]

SS9 LIVE in +14 minutes from now. City stage (Tartu) 1.33 km
local time 20:25 LIVE
http://www.tv3play.ee/sisu/auto24-rally-estonia/415581?autostart=true

later on Eurosport & Eurosport 2 video summarys
http://www.fiaerc.com/tv_coverage/country/EST

[mousti]

Chardo will get penalty was too late at TC before start of SSS..

[svstock]

now live on http://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/rallyestonia/otse-rally-estonia-tanak-laheb-tartu-linnakatsele-vastu-kindla-liidrina.d?id=69365661

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs2CC5tCYAEW2xQ.jpg:large

[sete]

Hope they are both ok.

[br21]

Those 208T16's dont have much luck do they ... :rolleyes:

As it was visible on the onboard - it wasn't cars fault:) Plangi was very lucky to (almost) stay on the road.
Lukyanuk is pushing like hell, so we will have nice "moments" video from him after the rally.

[RS]

Some nice day one footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXOpr8htVI

[MikeyD]

Fast stages are all about power, now we see what a fiesta R5 can really do :-)

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10369913_678727892207269_1275070723960793602_n.jpg

This spot is at last seconds of video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXOpr8htVI
Lukyanuk another time beyond limits.

[RS]

Chardonnet didn't use the long gearbox yesterday???!

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=13880&t=auto24-Rally-Estonia-2014

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/auto24_rally_estonia_2014/ele_dsc_2292.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/auto24_rally_estonia_2014/ele_dsc_2171.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/auto24_rally_estonia_2014/ele_dsc_2257.jpg

[Jarek Z]

I have to say that Chardonnnet is a big disappointment to me. I heard his name here and there and thought he was supposed to be a new talent. But just look at his stage times... Only 9th overal after SS10, over 2 minutes behind the leader. Also big disappointments are Sohlberg and Tarabus.

On the other hand - Tanak is doing fantastic job. So far 9 out 10 stages won! Well done!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs5t5P1CIAAsyRb.jpg:large

[latek]

Is Lukyanuk a really fast driver or meybe he just perfectly know these stages? He is beating so many good drivers is better cars and I remember him beating Ketoma, Kubica and Lappi in last year NORF on some stages. Would be good to see him in a proper rally car.

[mousti]

Lukyanuk is a crazy fast driver, no question about that...

[RS]

On the other hand - Tanak is doing fantastic job. So far 9 out 10 stages won! Well done!

Well done absolutely, but it shouldn't be a surprise really. He is the most experienced driver here in one of the quickest cars, on his home event.

[Jarek Z]

Well done absolutely, but it shouldn't be a surprise really. He is the most experienced driver here in one of the quickest cars, on his home event.

I know, that's why I placed him in the first position in my Pickems :)

[dimviii]

inside 0,7 sec first 3 crews after Tanak power problems!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More problems for the 208T16... :rolleyes:

"Siim Plangi’s delay on stage 11 of auto24 Rally Estonia was down to a clutch problem on his Peugeot Baltic-backed 208 T16.
The Sainéloc Junior Team driver, who is competing in the same car Craig Breen used to win the ERC-counting Acropolis Rally earlier this season, dropped from eighth to 10th when the fault occurred 10 kilometres from the finish of the 28.77-kilometre Saku Vaabina stage earlier this afternoon.
“I lost at least a minute, it’s said but there’s nothing I can do,” said Plangi, who is making his debut in the Peugeot on his home round of the ERC. "


Although Kruda's car is still mechanically ok, but he's lost confidence in the fast parts and quite downbeat...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs6Kdk4CQAABeqe.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another puncture for Plangi SS12 - 208T16 is jinxed !

Edit - although there are punctures for many on this one...

[miniwintz]

How different are WRC gravel tyres compared to ERC gravel tyres (Michelin)? Could this explain part of the gap between Chardonnet and the top drivers?

[RS]

I don't think Cardonnet has been on the WRC tyres for the whole rally?

Meanwhile, it sounds as if Wiegand only just changed to the long gearbox and Lappi is still with the shorter gearbox?!

If they don't use them on this rally then when would they use long?

[miniwintz]

0.1 between 2 and 3, Lukyanuk said he would drive safe to the finish, I can't see that happening...

[FUNKYXXXXX]

How different are WRC gravel tyres compared to ERC gravel tyres (Michelin)? Could this explain part of the gap between Chardonnet and the top drivers?
Do you mean that there is a difference between WRC and ERC MICHELIN`S tyres ????????

[Mirek]

I don't think Cardonnet has been on the WRC tyres for the whole rally?

Meanwhile, it sounds as if Wiegand only just changed to the long gearbox and Lappi is still with the shorter gearbox?!

If they don't use them on this rally then when would they use long?

They didn't use long ones in Acropolis either. In Ypres they did. Strange...

[miniwintz]

Do you mean that there is a difference between WRC and ERC MICHELIN`S tyres ????????

Apparently ERC tyres are better than WRC ones, there are less restrictions in the regulations.

[FUNKYXXXXX]

Apparently ERC tyres are better than WRC ones, there are less restrictions in the regulations.

I`m curious If there is a difference in quality and durability.

[RS]

I`m curious If there is a difference in quality and durability.

It seems as if the WRC tyres are harder and therefore last longer, but have less grip.

[FUNKYXXXXX]

Thanks guys for your responses.

[Mirek]

Jeets reported crashed. Car on fire after the accident, stage stopped.

[PLuto]

And now we will see what will be notional time for Aus...

[Mirek]

Now Plangi rolled...

[PLuto]

Jeets and Toom were taken to hospital to check

[svstock]

21:00 Podium LIVE ETA in 1 hour. local time now 20:02.
http://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/rallyestonia/kolm-paeva-otsepilti-jalgi-delfi-vahendusel-rally-estonia-otseulekandeid-live-tulemusi-ja-uudiseid.d?id=69365661

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Now Plangi rolled...

Inevitable his luck or the 208's would run out...

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/q81/s720x720/10295145_811628702189673_2159247938668496662_o.jpg

[PLuto]

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_bcae5f35c6e2d17d962077c20a50d1a7.jpg

[svstock]

http://rallyestonia.ee/results/estonian/
EMV (Estonian Rally Championship)

1. A.Lukyanuk-A.Arnautov
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (N4)
51:18.0

2. O.Tänak-R.Mõlder
Ford Fiesta R5 (R4)
51:18.3
+0.3

3. T.Kõrge-E.Pints
Ford Fiesta R5 (R4)
51:29.5
+11.5

4. E.Kaur-E.Lepikson
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (N4)
51:44.0
+26.0

5.K.Kruuda-M.Järveoja
Peugeot 208 T16 (R4)
52:19.0
+1:01.0

*-58. K.Koitla-M.Laidvee
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX (N4)
51:47.5
+29.5
*+21 minutes penalty

http://rallyestonia.ee/results/erc/
ERC (ERC European Rally Championship)

1. O.Tänak-R.Mõlder
Ford Fiesta R5 (RC2)
1:49:36.4

2. A.Lukyanuk-A.Arnautov
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (RC2)
1:50:23.5
+47.1

3. T.Kõrge-E.Pints
Ford Fiesta R5 (RC2)
1:50:31.8
+55.4

4. R.Aus-S.Koskinen
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX (RC2)
1:51:48.1
+2:11.7

5. E.Lappi-J.Ferm
Škoda Fabia S2000 (RC2)
1:51:53.6
+2:17.2

[dimviii]

Leets fiesta
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q84/s720x720/10492468_688093421258751_5243664248847712663_n.jpg

conrats to Lukyanuk,await to see his incars.

[miniwintz]

I cannot wait either to see his onboards. That was most definitely his best rally so far, and he kept pushing (even though he said he wouldn't :D) till the last stage, what a demonstration!

[RS]

Congratulations to Tanak, Lukyanuk and Korge for great drives.

Was a really nice rally - lovely roads, decent entry, lots of spectators.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Awesome performance by Lukyanuk in the Evo against the R5's.. stunning speed and car control from the onboards quite amazing.

Never has the Colin McRae Flat-out trophy been more deserved !!

[Mirek]

Big crash of Jeets... ouch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UPFSrp1NU_0

[Kalm]

Moment when Lukyanuk finds out that they have taken 2nd overall, what a drive :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciSSnMgu-o

[FUNKYXXXXX]

Day 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCP71qXvsWU

[miniwintz]

Day 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCP71qXvsWU

9:24 :vader:

[Kalm]

Big crash of one of the trucks, both drivers ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_fB8VH_xrA&feature=youtu.be

[Jarek Z]

Max Vatanen, just like Anton Alen, didn't inherit the skills of his father. He was only 6th (out of 9) in 2WD category, over 4 minutes behind the winner (Sander Parn) who drove the same car (Ford Fiesta R2).

[PLuto]

Max Vatanen, just like Anton Alen, didn't inherit the skills of his father. He was only 6th (out of 9) in 2WD category, over 4 minutes behind the winner (Sander Parn) who drove the same car (Ford Fiesta R2).

Despite it he has made improvement comparing to previous year.

[Rallyper]

Despite it he has made improvement comparing to previous year.

I guess he has the possibility to train a lot. No one knows what it will become of him in a few years though. Speed isn´t always a matter of having it from the start (however it´s the most common thing)...

[cali]

Just some facts from rally:

Tänak was driving DMack WRC tires throughout the rally
Chardonnet was driving with Pirelli WRC tires on the 2nd day to practice for NORF

This makes Tänak's win even more impressive :)
Disappointment of the rally goes to Lappi and Kruuda, even though I'm not so sure if it was the car or the driver's fault.

[FUNKYXXXXX]

Day 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WaaOw4N4Lk

[garais22]

Alexey Lukyanuk Flat Out!
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/rallijs/797-igaunijas-erc-2-diena/

[faateris]

Photos - http://www.janisasaris.com/jaunumi/

JA

[martini2771]

Video from FIA ERC rally Estonia 2014. Lot of action...

http://motorsunsports.lv/video/fia-erc-rally-estonia-2014

[pasklik]

very nice video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI7jL0-_6sU

[Juha_Koo]

Unfortunately most likely no onboards from Lukyanuk coming unless permission is granted by ERC promoter...

[mousti]

Was afraid of that...

[mousti]

Onboard of Lukyanuk on Stage 5 of Rally Estonia, let's hope more follows!!!

https://www.facebook.com/TACrally/posts/668159009929910

[bluuford]

I am able to conclude my rally, finally!

It was superb rally! We started early in the morning from Tallinn to reach to the shakedown stage. I tried new approach road to the old house corner and I found out that it was the easiest access road there (less than 1 km walking in the nice forrest track). There was a huge difference between different drivers and it was clearly visible that four drivers were above the rest: Tänak, Kangur, Kõrge and Lukjanuk. Kangur was taking some unbelivable risks and we were thinking that sooner or later it is not going to end well. It went like expected. Lappi in the shakedown was very dissapointing while Wiegand was driving very well. Eli Evans was very impressive! We also witnessed when one Russian young driver crashed into the house.He was driving quite well.. he just got too much sideways corrected too much to the right and hit the house with right front corner. It was pretty high-speed crash. Everyone OK.

Beginning of next day was not too early. There were some threatening clouds but no rain reched to the stages as I was predicting. We spectated stage 2, 4 in the first prohibited area. This area is mostly very narrow and there are just a few spectating spots (the reason for prohibiting this area is mainly because of difficult access. So, we approcahed there via the forrest again. 500 meters was nice forrest track but last 500 meters was very difficult harvested forrest. When we reached there via the forrest then there was no problem and we were standing on a pretty high bank inside the corner just after a small jump and nearly 90 dgrees left. Second pass was extremely fast and many drivers were pretty surprised by their sideways jumps. Chardonnet was off road there and just a few centimeters from a big tree. It was very lucky escape for him. We also met „sindroms“ there. I hope his head is OK now? There was a little stone that flew from Kees Burger car and hit his head (some ketchup for cheesburger :-P)

Then we moved to the stage nr 5 and 7. We missed couple of first cars but we were expecting it. We were watching very fast place with small jumps and with one very tricky jump. Fiesta R2-s were flying funnily there (rear end wanted to pass the front). No big moments there, just some very high speed action (one boy with speedgun measured Lukjanuk´s speed there, it was 176 km/h)

We also reached to the city stage. There was a huge amount of spectators and we decided immediately to abandon our initial plans and we moved to my fraternity house garden. Rally was basically at our home. We had very nice time there and we saw two nice corners there. Tänak did some extremely precise driving there and he was using 100% of the road there (taking more road width from the pedestrians path). Tarabus was very nice here as well.

Last morning was with very late start (we had a long party on previous night – so, it was good). I had really bad internet connection in the morning and I was predicting completly dry morning stages. Suddenly some thunderclouds jumped out from nowhere. But it was not a big problem. Big rain hit only last couple of kilometers on SS 10 and SS 11 was completely dry. We were on long right corner with some interesting chicane. A lot of fun was there and some very kind local people who were selling delicious, homemade pies etc. For next loop I told that there should be taken a safe choice of tyres, as there was a huge risk of rain and 1/3 of the frist stage was still a bit damp. However, it was raining all around the stages and no rain reached to these stages. So, Ott was on wrong tyres but stil won both runs.

For the last stage we moved to the penultimate stage (opposide side of the road to Teemu/Rallirini.net - discovered from the video). There was some thunder and threatening clouds but my last words to the service were that it will be mostly dry and maybe some humidity at the end of next stage. So, I was correct this time. Jeets had a huge crash just a few km from us ( I was spectating on that corner in 2009, extremely spectacular corner after the jump but no space for many spectators). It was a huge crash and lucky that they are probably both home from hospital by now (with some broken bones – legs, hand and ribs).

My final conslusions:
Tänak, Kõrge, Aus, Lukjanuk were all driving very well. Kõrge was a bit rusty in places and Aus had some very nice driving lines, very different to most of the drivers.
Lappi – extremely bad driving. No commitment, no trust on blind corners and crests not worthy drive for ERC leader.
Eli Evans and Sander Pärn- really nice drive by both with 2wd
Domzala was the biggest surprise behing the Ds3R3 wheel, beautiful drive.
Chardonnet – often too wide, spectacular
All Peugeots – it looked like they were trying hard, but seems that 208T16 is not yet a car for fast gravel stages. A lot of developement is still needed here.
Rally Estonia – 10 points from 10. only good memories for me.

Here are some nice video including Chardonnet OFF and Kochmar off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_U_6fYeQI4&feature=youtu.be

another nice video with the same offs+ some spectacular driving, some more offs and forrest that was cut down by the truck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUPRtvlTixI&feature=youtu.be

[Mirek]

Onboard of Lukyanuk on Stage 5 of Rally Estonia, let's hope more follows!!!

https://www.facebook.com/TACrally/posts/668159009929910

Just wow...

Onboard also on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUU1UUDTgiM

[Kalm]

Just wow...

Onboard also on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUU1UUDTgiM

wow indeed, especially the jump at 2.04 ... just crazy commitment
found a nice picture also : https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10364032_693119654070572_3826211283910136414_n.jpg

[Plhus]

My photos:

http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/estonia2014.htm

[Franky]

It took me ages to get all these photos processed and now I gave up on making a dedicated gallery site. So I decided to upload the photos to Flickr.

These photos are a bit unusual. All of them are shot on 35mm film using a camera that's more of a toy than a serious thing - Spinner 360.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/131256507@N07/sets/72157649219458563/

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8737/16917999131_a1eb7ebe00_z.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7652/16917717542_081d6044aa_z.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7592/16296613174_0dea63fac8_z.jpg

A small selection of "normal" photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/131256507@N07/sets/72157651530369472/
Set a challenge for myself to use only the 50mm lens, so not many action shots.