School shootings and now school stabbings??

[Koz]

WTF is wrong with kids these days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26959628

[schmenke]

Arm the teachers with guns.

[Firstgear]

Putting guns in the classroom is not the answer.
All the teachers need is bigger knives.

[Starter]

Putting guns in the classroom is not the answer.
All the teachers need is bigger knives.
That'll keep the students sharp and on edge.

[D-Type]

Had the attacker carried a gun, exercising his "right to bear arms", how many fatalities might there have been?

[Rollo]

Had the attacker carried a gun, exercising his "right to bear arms", how many fatalities might there have been?

The attacker was exercising his right to bear arms. Swords, clubs, bommy-knockers, koshers, knives and black puddings are all arms of sorts.
This is probably a consequence of an unfettered right, without caveat as all of these incidences are. America has long since decided that this sort of thing is acceptable.

[Starter]

Had the attacker carried a gun, exercising his "right to bear arms", how many fatalities might there have been?
Doesn't make a lot of difference what weapon was used. There is little you can do to stop crazy. Though I'm sure some will now want to start registering knives and ban their use by all but law enforcement. Gonna be tough going gnawing those steaks at the Saturday cook out.

[D-Type]

I'm not saying you can stop someone goig crazy. But, the consequences of going crazy with a knife are demonstrably less deadly than running amok with a gun.

[Starter]

I'm not saying you can stop someone goig crazy. But, the consequences of going crazy with a knife are demonstrably less deadly than running amok with a gun.
None the less, the proper solution is for early identification and treatment of people who are having mental issues, including incarceration in appropriate facilities for the truly dangerous, and not abridging the rights of the vast majority who are law abiding gun owners.

[Jag_Warrior]

The attacker was exercising his right to bear arms. Swords, clubs, bommy-knockers, koshers, knives and black puddings are all arms of sorts.
This is probably a consequence of an unfettered right, without caveat as all of these incidences are. America has long since decided that this sort of thing is acceptable.

I'm not sure how this incident can be linked to an unfettered right... or an unfettered left. I haven't caught the details on what sort of knife this kid used, but short of a pen knife, most anything found in even a kitchen (anywhere in the world) could be used to inflict serious bodily harm.

While I was in L.A., a crazy guy walked into a police station, got into some sort of argument with a cop at he desk and whipped out a gun and shot the cop. Needless to say, the guy got lit up like a Christmas tree after he did it - but AFAIK, he is still alive (somehow). I think the cop survived too. Now how crazy is THAT?! And California is one of the most liberal states (with some of the toughest gun laws) in the U.S.

Crazy people do crazy things. I guess that's what makes them crazy. As far as what to do about them, that is above my pay grade. I really don't know what THE answer is there.

[airshifter]

Jag,

How dare you interject common sense into something such as this. As a fellow state resident, I'm calling for the immediate confiscation of all metal knives until we get this sorted out. I feel unsafe at the buffet.

I'm also going to make a pre-emptive call to ban all chopsticks. I eat a lot of sushi and I don't want some crazy person poking me in the eye because they used too much wasabi.

Anyone without a right leaning attitude should be behind this.

Signed,

Liberal and Scared of My Shadow

[Starter]

The attacker was exercising his right to bear arms. Swords, clubs, bommy-knockers, koshers, knives and black puddings are all arms of sorts.
This is probably a consequence of an unfettered right, without caveat as all of these incidences are. America has long since decided that this sort of thing is acceptable.
While I support the right to bare arms, some people should never be in public without sleeves.

[A.F.F.]

Why not kill one generation and wait if the next one is a bit reasonable and educate them. As the bonus, all teachers got a long vacation they probably need. You welcome, next!!!!

[henners88]

You can't stop someone flipping out and hurting people, but in this case it could have been a whole lot worse had he used a gun. At least with a knife you have a chance to fend off your attacker as they have to be in close proximity to the victim. Unless they are some kind of ninja knife throwing maniac. If he'd strolled down the hall popping people off from 20 feet away with a pistol or automatic weapon, you have less of a chance. A gun is deadly in the wrong hands and allows a very quick and effective way of killing people as we know from all these shootings that seem to be happening. Of course the real question is why are these kids doing this? What on earth is the society doing to put this sort of action in their heads? Mental.

Hopefully the injured people will recover without a fatal outcome. Finger crossed muckers. :)

[Starter]

You can't stop someone flipping out and hurting people, but in this case it could have been a whole lot worse had he used a gun. At least with a knife you have a chance to fend off your attacker as they have to be in close proximity to the victim. Unless they are some kind of ninja knife throwing maniac. If he'd strolled down the hall popping people off from 20 feet away with a pistol or automatic weapon, you have less of a chance. A gun is deadly in the wrong hands and allows a very quick and effective way of killing people as we know from all these shootings that seem to be happening. Of course the real question is why are these kids doing this? What on earth is the society doing to put this sort of action in their heads? Mental.

Hopefully the injured people will recover without a fatal outcome. Finger crossed muckers. :)
Take an adolescent, with lots of strange hormones running around, add a negative sense of self worth and failure to fit into their peer group and you've got the basis for those kids. Now add in the national media playing it all up as the story of the year and you have just provided the incentive for them to go out in a blaze of glory "showing the world who I am and they shouldn't have messed with me and I'll make them be sorry" and, bingo, you've got your teenage mass murderer.

[schmenke]

Enroll kids in a school in Georgia. They should feel safe there. "Amen"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-s-guns-everywhere-bill-celebrated-by-pro-gun-lobby-1.2597232

[Tazio]

Enroll kids in a school in Georgia. They should feel safe there. "Amen"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-s-guns-everywhere-bill-celebrated-by-pro-gun-lobby-1.2597232


Licensed carriers will be able to bring firearms into bars
This may well affect the meaning of being 86'd from a bar :confused:

[henners88]

Take an adolescent, with lots of strange hormones running around, add a negative sense of self worth and failure to fit into their peer group and you've got the basis for those kids. Now add in the national media playing it all up as the story of the year and you have just provided the incentive for them to go out in a blaze of glory "showing the world who I am and they shouldn't have messed with me and I'll make them be sorry" and, bingo, you've got your teenage mass murderer.

I do think the schools system in the States is based far too much on competition, from my limited knowledge of course. There seems to be more peer pressure to fit into a social group than say the UK for instance. Films always seem to highlight the groups like jocks, nerds, goths etc etc and not sure how true that is but I've heard the opinion expressed in the past as a hint as to why kids feel let down when they don't feel they've fitted in. There must be something that trigger she extreme form of retaliation. :)

The problem we have here at the mo is not kids killing other kids with guns or knives but cyber bullying. Far too many kids are committing suicide after a few nasty Facebook posts and it's something our society and school desperately need to tackle!

[Roamy]

I do think the schools system in the States is based far too much on competition, from my limited knowledge of course. There seems to be more peer pressure to fit into a social group than say the UK for instance. Films always seem to highlight the groups like jocks, nerds, goths etc etc and not sure how true that is but I've heard the opinion expressed in the past as a hint as to why kids feel let down when they don't feel they've fitted in. There must be something that trigger she extreme form of retaliation. :)

The problem we have here at the mo is not kids killing other kids with guns or knives but cyber bullying. Far too many kids are committing suicide after a few nasty Facebook posts and it's something our society and school desperately need to tackle!

Good luck Henners- In this country we will need a military coup or a revolution to alter our lead sled to hell!! The rancher in Nevada is only the beginning of things to come!!