Rally Guanajuato México 2014

[Raini]

Latvala begins to realize to challenge the title is not necessary to attack all the time, just take what you can the most of every event. Now he was sweeping the road at this slippery gravel, so he did perfect job today and Meeke (and probably Ostberg) wouldn't be able to challenge him next 2 days. Ogier though is untouchable again...

Absolutely agree about the Latvala. About Ogier, the rally demands something more than being behind the wheel from the childhood, and that "something" do have Ogier and Loeb definetely. But Latvala has understood as well that every rally stage is not a rallysprint which you have to win with blood out of the nose. Latvala is in very good position to win the championship this year.

[er88]

Pity that some really fast drivers never manage to find reliability. People say that it's easier to make fast driver reliable than vice-versa but there are numerous examples that it's not so simple (Meeke, Tänak, Novikov etc.) :(

Meeke has just got into double figures of starts in wrc car. First time in australia and mexico with little testing he has been beating or fighting with wrc regulars for the last 5+yrs. Remember Thierry and Andreas' first full season in WRC? Despite being older Meeke is at the same process as those guys were in, in their first WRC season. It is natural Meeke will have accidents this year, just like they did - and also Meeke is driving considerably quicker than the two i mentioned were in their debut seasons. Yes Meeke's driving style is edgy but all the current top WRC drivers were crash prone in their first year or two in WRC - untill they found their feet, pace of other drivers and gained experience of the rallies.

[Raini]

Kubica rolled?

[AdvEvo]

Ogier did 18000 test km for vw before they startet the first WRC season. Every other driver is so far behind they will never win any rally as long as ogier is staying on the road. So much testing will give so much advantage.

[N.O.T]

Ogier did 18000 test km for vw before they startet the first WRC season. Every other driver is so far behind they will never win any rally as long as ogier is staying on the road. So much testing will give so much advantage.

LOL... it gets better and better.

[dimviii]

what happened to Kubica and Neuville at last stages? not any info from the wrc clowns.bica...

edit
Kubica....
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[dimviii]

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[SS10/11] Robert Kubica (Ford) has rolled on the first run of the super special… They have managed to get it back on it's wheels and he continues to the end of the stage, even though the stage has been yellow flagged.

[SS10/11] Robert Kubica (Ford) - The car has some damage and he will probably not be able to do the second run of the super special - the windscreen is broken, one of his wheels is flapping around.

[bassist]

Ogier did 18000 test km for vw before they startet the first WRC season. Every other driver is so far behind they will never win any rally as long as ogier is staying on the road. So much testing will give so much advantage.

LOL... it gets better and better.


Your just a wind up merchant N.O.T, you don't do yourself any favours- I`ll stick with my previous comments.

[dimviii]

Neuville probably was right after Kubica and delayed from his accident probably,thats why he has a 4 minute stage time.

edit.Kubica has rolled at stage 10,while Neuville has late time at stage 11.... wtf?

[N.O.T]

how hard is to understand that some drivers are better than others ??

[dimviii]

[SS10/11] Chris Atkinson (Hyundai) - No damage to the car after hitting the plastic barriers
SAM.
[SS10/11] Chris Atkinson (Hyundai) "The guy said the tarmac was slippery, there is oil or something down. I saw there was a concrete bollard and went for the plastic one…

SS10/11] Thierry Neuville (Hyundai) "The tarmac, something has happened, is like on ice in some places. It was tricky and very slippery in some places. I am happy to be here, I enjoy my day and we learn a lot

[RAS007]

Atkinson is really disappointing so far. He's as much slower than the Neuville as Neuville is than the leaders.

I don't really know why Atkinson is there; he didn't have it years ago and he doesn't have it now.

[RAS007]

Aaaaaaand the rally is over.

^^^This.

[Hasselhoax]

Sholdn't Hirvonen retire now after being completely useless in 3rd place AND on top of that not going through all the solderings of the car before the start of SS8?

A man with his experience should have a Weller in the boot. He's really lost his spirit...

[PLuto]

SS 10 and SS 11 were same parallel stage, each in different start position. So Neuville stopped at Kubica's crashed car (Kubica was doing SS 10, Neuville SS 11). So Neuville's time will be corrected as he had yellow flag.

[sollitt]

Hirvonen, Meeke & Kubica out. Ogier leads.
Normal service resumes.

[litifeta]

Atkinson is really disappointing so far. He's as much slower than the Neuville as Neuville is than the leaders.

I don't really know why Atkinson is there; he didn't have it years ago and he doesn't have it now.

Obviously listening and reading are not among your skills

[stefanvv]

Kubica - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gqdCNQauI
Tanak - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHMYYFm1myA

[RAS007]

Atkinson is really disappointing so far. He's as much slower than the Neuville as Neuville is than the leaders.

I don't really know why Atkinson is there; he didn't have it years ago and he doesn't have it now.

Obviously listening and reading are not among your skills

Nor yours, it appears.

[HaCo]

Good morning everyone! Just saw MotorsTV coverage and results from last night. What a BIG shame for Meeke, hope he still gets his chances! Pitty for Mikko as well. And what else than: Kubica did it again!
Nice coverage, nice to see Neuville in top10 doing +/- times and getting better. Let's hope he can make it to the finish this time!

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tKsZLgpjk

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/15500_zklamany_meeke_zdroj_wrc_ddae1600bb.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-4664-0-63988400-1394246415.png
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-4664-0-75138600-1394246045.png

[Mintexmemory]

8 minutes off 10th place and the ability to save rubber for the Power Stage - I still expect Kris to score about 6-9 points

[wurc]

8 minutes off 10th place and the ability to save rubber for the Power Stage - I still expect Kris to score about 6-9 points

be realistic, I seriously doubt that even hirvonen won't do that and he's much better on gravel, I wouldn't count on power stage, latvala, ogier, ostberg are too good in this rally, perhaps hirvonen could score at least 1 point

[Ucci]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

[Rallyper]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

+100

[HaCo]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

Many made the same mistake before, Sordo is one I can think of directly. You learn from mistakes, he will too and it matches his profile perfectly :D

[dominik_r]

Latvala was safe second overall till SSS - Poland 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGR2dsyakQ - shit happens

[PLuto]

Many made the same mistake before, Sordo is one I can think of directly. You learn from mistakes, he will too and it matches his profile perfectly :D

Robert is doing too many mistakes...

[PLuto]

Nice coverage, nice to see Neuville in top10 doing +/- times and getting better. Let's hope he can make it to the finish this time!

Come on, with this entry list, where would you expect Thierry in results? All WRC cars (without superally) are in top ten.

[wurc]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

I'm noticing some kind of delirium in your words :) did you say sth like this last season after two rallies when Meeke had rolls on both ? he was on much bigger pressure to finish than kubica on this one, you could tell the same story about mikelsen or meeke from this rally, you could say that his last 5 rallies, two rolls and now rally2, but I won't say such bullshit about his driving cause he's a great driver, but apparently there's sth wrong with your attitude towards kubica

[N.O.T]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

I'm noticing some kind of delirium in your words :) did you say sth like this last season after two rallies when Meeke had rolls on both ? he was on much bigger pressure to finish than kubica on this one, you could tell the same story about mikelsen or meeke from this rally, you could say that his last 5 rallies, two rolls and now rally2, but I won't say such bullshit about his driving, but apparently thre's sth wrong with your attitude towards kubica

kubica is nothing apart from a crash highlight in the big boys league unfortunately so far... with so many accidents i just hope he finishes the season healthy and then go on as far as his sponsors support him... he has no future in the sport.

[wurc]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

I'm noticing some kind of delirium in your words :) did you say sth like this last season after two rallies when Meeke had rolls on both ? he was on much bigger pressure to finish than kubica on this one, you could tell the same story about mikelsen or meeke from this rally, you could say that his last 5 rallies, two rolls and now rally2, but I won't say such bullshit about his driving, but apparently thre's sth wrong with your attitude towards kubica

kubica is nothing apart from a crash highlight in the big boys league unfortunately so far... with so many accidents i just hope he finishes the season healthy and then go on as far as his sponsors support him... he has no future in the sport.

I understand that you said the same thing about latvala after 2009 season ?

Latvala was safe second overall till SSS - Poland 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGR2dsyakQ - shit happens
any particular comment regarding my message and examples in it or some general bullshit writing from your side ?

[dimviii]

start list for today stages.

Atkinson (i20 WRC)
Guerra (Fiesta WRC)
Prokop (Fiesta WRC)
Neuville (i20 WRC)
Evans (Fiesta WRC)
Kubica (Fiesta WRC)
Latvala (Polo R WRC)
Ostberg (DS3 WRC)
Ogier (Polo R WRC)
Mikkelsen (Polo R WRC)
Meeke (DS3 WRC)
Hirvonen (Fiesta WRC)

[N.O.T]

Latavala and Meeke are at least fast... you boy is a slow version of Novikov and will probably end like him or drive in ladycup competitions at best.

[thuGG]

Obviously Kubica needs one serious help from shrink. And how the hell somebody from the team or even his codriver explains to him simple fact : you are on fourth position in rally which you have never driven, some guys are already out, you are fresh in Fiesta, we are just on super special-this is stage for spectators and not for drivers!!, step down from throttle for god's sake, calm down !! Do not even try to drive near your 90% ability.....survive. No, ex-F1 driver again makes stupidity.
I'm speaking from my own experience as I already finished rally due to an error on SS...feels very ugly...

I'm noticing some kind of delirium in your words :) did you say sth like this last season after two rallies when Meeke had rolls on both ? he was on much bigger pressure to finish than kubica on this one, you could tell the same story about mikelsen or meeke from this rally, you could say that his last 5 rallies, two rolls and now rally2, but I won't say such bullshit about his driving, but apparently thre's sth wrong with your attitude towards kubica

kubica is nothing apart from a crash highlight in the big boys league unfortunately so far... with so many accidents i just hope he finishes the season healthy and then go on as far as his sponsors support him... he has no future in the sport.
Yes he has, you will see him in wrc next season, and you will see him on podiums this season.

[wurc]

Latavala and Meeke are at least fast... you boy is a slow version of Novikov and will probably end like him or drive in ladycup competitions at best.

I expected that, when you have no arguments than there's just a general bla bla, behaviour of a kid, time to grow up :)

[HaCo]

Nice coverage, nice to see Neuville in top10 doing +/- times and getting better. Let's hope he can make it to the finish this time!

Come on, with this entry list, where would you expect Thierry in results? All WRC cars (without superally) are in top ten.

Well, the first loop he was more than 1sec/km than the fastest car on the stage, now he is below 1s so that is an improvement and yes it is positive. They have a lot of work on the car, would love to see him fighting for top spots, but that is the way it is right now. Just hope he gets to the finish in 1 piece.

[SubaruNorway]

Didn't have the chance to watch yesterday, any links to Live TV today?
SS16 is live i believe.

[dimviii]

alternator problem for Mikko again
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Hirv ... 73442.html (http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Hirvonen-a-nouveau-coupe-dans-son-elan,73442.html)

[Rallyper]

alternator problem for Mikko again
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Hirv ... 73442.html (http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Hirvonen-a-nouveau-coupe-dans-son-elan,73442.html)

Lucas electrical system?

[PLuto]

start list for today stages.

Atkinson (i20 WRC)
Guerra (Fiesta WRC)
Prokop (Fiesta WRC)
Neuville (i20 WRC)
Evans (Fiesta WRC)
Kubica (Fiesta WRC)
Latvala (Polo R WRC)
Ostberg (DS3 WRC)
Ogier (Polo R WRC)
Mikkelsen (Polo R WRC)
Meeke (DS3 WRC)
Hirvonen (Fiesta WRC)

Complete start list is here - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanaj ... TypeId=420 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanajuato-mexico-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=420)

I must say, I dont understand their system of making start list...

[Ucci]

Yes he has, you will see him in wrc next season, and you will see him on podiums this season.[/quote]

At least claiming about Robert's podium this season I'm 110% that we will se him on it (hopefully on more occasions). But it could already happen here without this stupid mistake. I always say-if you break the car on normal stage, Ok, it is understandable, especially in the early stage of the rally, but not in a SS. Remember : you will not win a race in SS, you will not gain anything (speaking of driving experience and knowledge), but you can loose everything.
I still admire Robert, more than most on this forum!

[SubaruNorway]

start list for today stages.

Atkinson (i20 WRC)
Guerra (Fiesta WRC)
Prokop (Fiesta WRC)
Neuville (i20 WRC)
Evans (Fiesta WRC)
Kubica (Fiesta WRC)
Latvala (Polo R WRC)
Ostberg (DS3 WRC)
Ogier (Polo R WRC)
Mikkelsen (Polo R WRC)
Meeke (DS3 WRC)
Hirvonen (Fiesta WRC)

Complete start list is here - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanaj ... TypeId=420 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanajuato-mexico-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=420)

I must say, I dont understand their system of making start list...

It was like this in Sweden too with the two Hyundai's starting after the leader, something new for this year for the cars that are on Rally 2 i guess.

[makinen_fan]

start list for today stages.

Atkinson (i20 WRC)
Guerra (Fiesta WRC)
Prokop (Fiesta WRC)
Neuville (i20 WRC)
Evans (Fiesta WRC)
Kubica (Fiesta WRC)
Latvala (Polo R WRC)
Ostberg (DS3 WRC)
Ogier (Polo R WRC)
Mikkelsen (Polo R WRC)
Meeke (DS3 WRC)
Hirvonen (Fiesta WRC)

Complete start list is here - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanaj ... TypeId=420 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanajuato-mexico-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=420)

I must say, I dont understand their system of making start list...

It was like this in Sweden too with the two Hyundai's starting after the leader, something new for this year for the cars that are on Rally 2 i guess.

Yes it was same in Sweden. P1 drivers in reverse order and the Rally 2 drivers after the leader

[EightGear]

Complete start list is here - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanaj ... TypeId=420 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-guanajuato-mexico-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=420)

I must say, I dont understand their system of making start list...

It was like this in Sweden too with the two Hyundai's starting after the leader, something new for this year for the cars that are on Rally 2 i guess.

Yes it was same in Sweden. P1 drivers in reverse order and the Rally 2 drivers after the leader

Very ridiculous though...

[HaCo]

Can Hyundai improve engine mapping during the rally? Other things besides regular setting they can improve?


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[stefanvv]

Can Hyundai improve engine mapping during the rally?
On their own risk I guess.

[Rallyper]

Ogier once again switch off the tracking system...?

[N.O.T]

Crazy split by Ogier...

[harriswrc]

Can someone explain the regulation about rally2 (ex- superrally) when a driver retires at the last stage of the leg?
I thought that the driver receives a penalty of 5mins about the last stage he miss and also an extra 5 mins penalty, so total at least 10 mins penalty.
What about Kubica? He retired at last superspecial stage and he receives only 5 mins penalty? Is there a different rule if you retire at superspecial stage?

[N.O.T]

mistake for Ostberg at last split...

[harriswrc]

DISASTER FOR OSTBERG!
His Citroen's left-hand rear suspension is badly damaged. "Too fast into a corner, slid wide and hit the rear on a bank."

[Eli]

what happened to Ostberg???

[stefanvv]

Broken rear left upright for Ostberg, a shame, probably woudn't manage next stage

[jonkka]

Can someone explain the regulation about rally2 (ex- superrally) when a driver retires at the last stage of the leg?
I thought that the driver receives a penalty of 5mins about the last stage he miss and also an extra 5 mins penalty, so total at least 10 mins penalty.
What about Kubica? He retired at last superspecial stage and he receives only 5 mins penalty? Is there a different rule if you retire at superspecial stage?

Which run he rolled in, first one? It seems he got +2min 30secs each time. Gotta check the rules about this.

[Rallyper]

Broken left upright at rear wheel...
This is the result having to chase better cars with slightly better drivers as well. Why shouldn´t they learn sometime??

Still it´s a long rally.

[stefanvv]

Can someone explain the regulation about rally2 (ex- superrally) when a driver retires at the last stage of the leg?
I thought that the driver receives a penalty of 5mins about the last stage he miss and also an extra 5 mins penalty, so total at least 10 mins penalty.
What about Kubica? He retired at last superspecial stage and he receives only 5 mins penalty? Is there a different rule if you retire at superspecial stage?

Which run he rolled in, first one?
Yes, the 1st one. Seems all Rally2 drivers receive the same 2:30 mins on the super specials.

[Doon]

Can someone explain the regulation about rally2 (ex- superrally) when a driver retires at the last stage of the leg?
I thought that the driver receives a penalty of 5mins about the last stage he miss and also an extra 5 mins penalty, so total at least 10 mins penalty.
What about Kubica? He retired at last superspecial stage and he receives only 5 mins penalty? Is there a different rule if you retire at superspecial stage?

I think it use to be 10 mins for the first stage not completed, and 5 mins for any additional stages. I think they changed the rule a couple of years ago that meant it was 5 mins per stage not completed, and I think if the stage is less than a certain distance i.e. a SSS, the it's 2mins 30secs like Jonkka said.

We are supposed to be the avid fans and we don't know the rules! ;)

[jonkka]

Yes, there is special rule for combined runs on same SSS:

46.2.5 In the case of Super Special stages, should two such stages each of less than 2.5 km be run consecutively, any priority crew unable to complete either the first or the second passage of the SSS will be allocated the fastest aggregate times of the driver’s priority group plus half the time penalty in Arts. 46.2.1 or 46.2.2 of these regulations for each special stage missed.

[A FONDO]

1-2-3 on this stage, good job from VW

[denkimi]

vw is on a different level. they'll win every rally if the other teams dont step up.

[Eli]

if all goes well ( apart from Ostberg) Evans is in line up for first podium...

[satukata]

Neuville fighting for podium if the ostberg´s problems continue..

[Eli]

14th stage 1-2-3 for vw

[A FONDO]

who will get his first podium? Evans? Hyunday? Prokop if the other two crash?

[stefanvv]

1-2-3 on this stage, good job from VW
That's 14th aggregate for both years

[dimviii]

each photo with less than 15 minutes from stage is 4 beers.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiN8XeYCcAAL-To.jpg

[Rallyper]

Neuville will earn 4th without having any speed what so ever...

[A FONDO]

1-2-3 on this stage, good job from VW
That's 14th aggregate for both years
what?

p.s. dimvi if you want beers you should post gif animation to see how damaged it is :D

[stefanvv]

1-2-3 on this stage, good job from VW
That's 14th aggregate for both years
what?
1 in Mexico, 7 in Sweden and some last year :)

[stefanvv]

Ostberg made a fix, lets see

EDIT: "Ostberg and Andersson are about to set off aboard their patched up DS3. National pride is at stake for the Norwegian / Swedish partnership. Ostberg is asked if the repair will hold "Of course it will hold. This is a viking fix." "

[Eli]

let's hope it sticks and he'll get to service ok...

[dimviii]

Bertelli rolled
Protasov problems with power steering

[bluuford]

Tänak has loose steeringwheel.

[dimviii]

Tänak has loose steeringwheel.

he can fix it,no problem for him. :D

[stefanvv]

Neuville attacks the podium, I'm afraid for the Hyunday :disturb:

[wurc]

probabbly game over for ostberg, stopped again
https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status ... 49/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/442344819004674049/photo/1)

evans or neuville will on the podium

[Eli]

he will hit a penalty ostberg

[dimviii]

probabbly game over for ostberg, stopped again
https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status ... 49/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/442344819004674049/photo/1)


at previous photo something liquid was dripping from the damaged side.Brake fluid maybe?

[dimviii]

probabbly game over for ostberg, stopped again
https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status ... 49/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/442344819004674049/photo/1)


at previous photo something liquid was dripping from the damaged side.Brake fluid maybe?

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 2 ?????
Update on @MadsOstberg. Now on way to SS13, rear left upright repaired, rear left drive shaft removed, brakes bled, will be late into stage

[dimviii]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[HaCo]

Fingers crossed for Neuville and the Hyundai!

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[Eli]

and Andreas is out again....

[stefanvv]

I have a theory for Ogier's split problems, he is so fast that GPS can't follow him :eek:

Pitty for Mikkelsen

[Eli]

he cut a corner and rolled... bad luck Mikkelsen, won't get enough experience for next year...

[arko5]

Kubica also??

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGoB0OtKPQ0

[Eli]

Kubica has Rolled...

[Mirek]

This is just ridiculous. It's already 6-7 accidents of Robert in 2,5 WRC rallies...

[MartijnS]

Damn...this is becoming a serious issue now :) 3 days in a row would be a record I think.

[Bartek]

This is just ridiculous. It's already 6-7 accidents of Robert in 2,5 WRC rallies...

Totally agree, I'm huge fan of Robert talents but this is not normal

[jonkka]

Theme From 'rawhide'

Rolling, rolling, rolling
Rolling, rolling, rolling
Rolling, rolling, rolling
Rolling, rolling, rolling

Rawhide

[wurc]

This is just ridiculous. It's already 6-7 accidents of Robert in 2,5 WRC rallies...

haven't you noticed that also for instance mikelsen also just rolled for the second time ? ostberg also crashed at previous SS and won't finish and you're just pain in the as* when it comes for kubica, he's learning ;)

[arko5]

Maybe his hand is too slow for WRC...

Ostberg retired

[Rallyper]

The whole rally seems to be a joke. Looks like we´ve have to change drivers in most of the teams...
For now only four or five drivers have been clean run through the stages, still a lot to go...

[HaCo]

Feeling sorry for Ostberg. Neuville on podium?

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[Eli]

so Mads will restart under rally 2 tommorow, no chance the Citroen boys will catch VW this year... too much lack of experince in both car and events...and bad luck...

[cosmin_sb]

Neuville on 3rd place now

[Bartek]

This is just ridiculous. It's already 6-7 accidents of Robert in 2,5 WRC rallies...

haven't you noticed that also for instance mikelsen also just rolled for the second time ? ostberg also crashed at previous SS and won't finish and you're just pain in the as* when it comes for kubica, he's learning ;)

So, from what I understand for example Magnussen this year in F1 can crash his McLaren at every sunday? Are you blind? Nobody doesn't wish bad for Robert, look what's going on...

[HaCo]

The whole rally seems to be a joke. Looks like we´ve have to change drivers in most of the teams...
For now only four or five drivers have been clean run through the stages, still a lot to go...
True, but ogier seems to be the problem here ;-)

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[N.O.T]

Kubica will be the first driver who is going to have more retirements than starts... WRC is not for him...

[wurc]

This is just ridiculous. It's already 6-7 accidents of Robert in 2,5 WRC rallies...

haven't you noticed that also for instance mikelsen also just rolled for the second time ? ostberg also crashed at previous SS and won't finish and you're just pain in the as* when it comes for kubica, he's learning ;)

So, from what I understand for example Magnussen this year in F1 can crash his McLaren at every sunday? You are blind? Nobody doesn't wish bad for Robert, look what's going on...

what's going on ? mikelsen is off for the 2nd time, ostberg off, tanak was off, meeke was off..
and kubica who starts in this rally for the first time is also off

why people feel sorry for ostberg and for kubica behave like a hypocrite, ostberg could be 2nd in the rally! kubica is just learning as he's here first time


Kubica will be the first driver who is going to have more retirements than starts... WRC is not for him...

have you opened already a champagne ? :P

[N.O.T]

Podium for Hyundai now...

[Eli]

...unless Thierry will also crash

[HaCo]

Didn't Ogier crash a lot of C4s at the beginning? WRC is hard business :-)

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[Bartek]

what's going on ? mikelsen is off for the 2nd time, ostberg off, tanak was off, meeke was off..
and kubica who starts in this rally for the first time is also off

why people feel sorry for ostberg and for kubica behave like a hypocrite, ostberg could be 2nd in the rally! kubica is just learning as he's here first time

Remember this, Mikkelsen, Ostberg, Tanak and Meeke will never be the champion. You are talking about learning but for how long?

[stefanvv]

SS13: Ogier in control
Another fastest time (36m40.1s) and Sebastien stretches his rally lead to a relatively comfortable 49sec over his team-mate Latvala. "I just controlled the pace. Not so much speed now, just trying to keep it clean."

SS13: Latvala safely through
In a new fastest time of 36m42.1sec. He's second now. "I'm doing what I can, I cannot do more than that. When you start to take risks here you can see from the other drivers what happens."

[WUff1]

I think Kubica can´t manage WRC. Much too many accidents since Rally Wales.

Don´t think we´ll see him in rallying anymore after this season, if he continues like this - and the more crashes he causes it won´t be getting easier for him and his confidence ...

[Rallyper]

Hirvonen showing reasonably good speed. If the car wouldn´t have let him down... :(

What about Atko? Does he not have ALS today also? :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

haven't you noticed that also for instance mikelsen also just rolled for the second time ? ostberg also crashed at previous SS and won't finish and you're just pain in the as* when it comes for kubica, he's learning ;)

I understand that You are probably quite new to this forum and You don't know my attitude towards Robert Kubica. I have always been a big fan of him and still I am but his WRC appearances this year have turned into a bad joke. Learning is good but to learn something one must drive stages not stand beside a crashed car.

Yes, Mikkelsen also crashed again and he is well known for crashing often (as Meeke, Novikov, Atkinson, Duval, Tänak and plenty of others). But none of them ever managed this in just 51 stages run in this season...

Monte Carlo
Accident in SS9

Sweden
Accident in SS12, SS14 and SS20

Mexico
Accident in SS10 and SS13 (and recce)

EDIT: Plus he crashed twice in Wales. So he started 4x in WRC car and crashed 8x...

[denkimi]

Didn't Ogier crash a lot of C4s at the beginning? WRC is hard business :-)

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no he didn't.

[Eli]

only 4 drivers from 4 manufacturer teams (never mind M-Sport, they are like manufacturer) have survived this event without any crashes/rolls/mistakes...up until now...

[Francis44]

I think Kubica can´t manage WRC. Much too many accidents since Rally Wales.

Don´t think we´ll see him in rallying anymore after this season, if he continues like this - and the more crashes he causes it won´t be getting easier for him and his confidence ...


If he continues like this I doubt he will even finish this year's championship, perhaps retire mid season.

[stefanvv]

only 4 drivers from 4 manufacturer teams (never mind M-Sport, they are like manufacturer) have survived this event without any crashes/rolls/mistakes...up until now...
My count seems to be wrong - 2 VW, 1 M-Sport, 2 Hyunday

EDIT: If we count Hirvonen for innocent also, that's 6

[wurc]

Remember this, Mikkelsen, Ostberg, Tanak and Meeke will never be the champion. You are talking about learning but for how long?

I wouldn't say it about mikkelsen,he has a potential for it, perhaps tanak, but for sure ostberg, meeke or hirvonen is already too late, so many years in WRC and no results


Don´t think we´ll see him in rallying anymore after this season, if he continues like this - and the more crashes he causes it won´t be getting easier for him and his confidence ...

to judge like this let's wait till the end of the season, especially for tarmac rallies, the same answer for Mirek, be patient and let's see what he can do, some persons here are ridiculously rude against kubica and that's not nice,
mikkelsen rolled already twice in this rally, but many people will say that he has a huge potential and could be fighting for the championship next year, for sure for instance ostberg or hirvonen won't do that, too late for them


If he continues like this I doubt he will even finish this year's championship, perhaps retire mid season.

Kubica is slow and crashes a lot.... he is a poor man Novikov.

remember his last WRC2 season ? after first 3 or 4 rallies some ignorants were saying the same story, afterwards he won 5 rallies in WRC2 and became WRC2 champion, think before you write anything..

[N.O.T]

Didn't Ogier crash a lot of C4s at the beginning? WRC is hard business :-)

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yes but he posted some good times also... Kubica is slow and crashes a lot.... he is a poor man Novikov.

[stefanvv]

mikkelsen rolled already twice in this rally
Nope, just this one, other was suspension damage

[Eli]

only 4 drivers from 4 manufacturer teams (never mind M-Sport, they are like manufacturer) have survived this event without any crashes/rolls/mistakes...up until now...
My count seems to be wrong - 2 VW, 1 M-Sport, 2 Hyunday

EDIT: If we count Hirvonen for innocent also, that's 6

sorry forgot Atkinson didn't have all that, and he just had problems. As for Hirvonen, he encounterd a mechanical issue.

[SubaruNorway]

Remember this, Mikkelsen, Ostberg, Tanak and Meeke will never be the champion. You are talking about learning but for how long?

I wouldn't say it about mikkelsen,he has a potential for it, perhaps tanak, but for sure ostberg, meeke or hirvonen is already too late, so many years in WRC and no results


Don´t think we´ll see him in rallying anymore after this season, if he continues like this - and the more crashes he causes it won´t be getting easier for him and his confidence ...

to judge like this let's wait till the end of the season, especially for tarmac rallies, the same answer for Mirek, be patient and let's see what he can do, some persons here are ridiculously rude against kubica and that's not nice,
mikkelsen rolled already twice in this rally, but many people will say that he has a huge potential and could be fighting for the championship next year, for sure for instance ostberg or hirvonen won't do that, too late for them


If he continues like this I doubt he will even finish this year's championship, perhaps retire mid season.

Kubica is slow and crashes a lot.... he is a poor man Novikov.

remember his last WRC2 season ? after first 3 or 4 rallies some ignorants were saying the same story, afterwards he won 5 rallies in WRC2 and became WRC2 champion, think before you write anything..

Mikkelsen didn't roll twice, he just slightly went wide on ss3 and hit some rocks. Don't you watch TV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGoB0OtKPQ0

Kubica apparently had three incidents on recce...

[Francis44]

If he continues like this I doubt he will even finish this year's championship, perhaps retire mid season.

Kubica is slow and crashes a lot.... he is a poor man Novikov.

remember his last WRC2 season ? after first 3 or 4 rallies some ignorants were saying the same story, afterwards he won 5 rallies in WRC2 and became WRC2 champion, think before you write anything..

Just comparing WRC-2 to WRC is not very smart, completely different leagues.

[Mihai]

I'm willing to take a bet that RK will finish Top 5 in Rally Poland this year. Some moment around Argentina or Sardinia he will eventually have an uneventful rally finished within the Top 10 and from there on he will build confidence to be fast and reliable. But I give him no chances to complete Rally Finland this year without SupeRally. :D

[wurc]

Mikkelsen didn't roll twice, he just slightly went wide on ss3 and hit some rocks. Don't you watch TV?

Kubica apparently had three incidents on recce...

and you will respond just to that minor fact ? childish :)
didn't finish the day, same story,
why aren't you so harsh for both norwegian who retired today ?

[PLuto]

[align=:1dwdi31p][/align:1dwdi31p]remember his last WRC2 season ? after first 3 or 4 rallies some ignorants were saying the same story, afterwards he won 5 rallies in WRC2 and became WRC2 champion, think before you write anything..

:disturb:

[Francis44]

Mikkelsen didn't roll twice, he just slightly went wide on ss3 and hit some rocks. Don't you watch TV?

Kubica apparently had three incidents on recce...

didn't finish the day, same story, why aren't you so harsh for both norwegian who retired today ?
and you will respond just to that minor fact ?

But Otsberg was fighting with Ogier :rolleyes: !

[HaCo]

It was like a walk in the park - no worries [:)]. {thinking of Power Stage] We learned something for tomorrow...
His times are good today, but Ogier says he's just controlling. Wonder what they learned :-) (hope it is alternator-related as they seem to break often).

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen didn't roll twice, he just slightly went wide on ss3 and hit some rocks. Don't you watch TV?

Kubica apparently had three incidents on recce...

didn't finish the day, same story, why aren't you so harsh for both norwegian who retired today ?
and you will respond just to that minor fact ?

But Otsberg was fighting with Ogier :rolleyes: !
Not really, just tried to hold back Latvala, Ogier had much better time at that stage.

[Mirek]

remember his last WRC2 season ? after first 3 or 4 rallies some ignorants were saying the same story, afterwards he won 5 rallies in WRC2 and became WRC2 champion, think before you write anything..


and you will respond just to that minor fact ? childish :)

Please keep it civil without insults. Thank You

[stefanvv]

What do you recon for Evans? He is gathering experience safely, some drivers won't get

[wurc]

for a relax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sV9qDaDFOI
hirvonan and a cow :)

[Francis44]

Mikkelsen crash was pretty hard, car arriving now at service park on the live stream.

[stefanvv]

What is this? - http://www.laola1.tv/partner/v4player/index.php?identifier=wrc_live&menu1=&menu2=&menu3=&play=161260

[stefanvv]

If you wonder why drivers crash so much in Mexico:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiOSyYaCUAEYUy7.jpg

[bluuford]

Bertelli in the middle of nowhere:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiORKI4CEAA-4G2.jpg:large

[jonkka]

but for sure ostberg, meeke or hirvonen is already too late, so many years in WRC and no results

Ostberg is four years younger than Ogier. For Mikko it's too late, I agree.

[COD]

Citroen seems to be a quite fast car.they just need a fast driver in it I suppose

[dimviii]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Mexico/Berichterstattung/2014/20140307/Galerie_des_Tages_spaet/886x498px_vw-20140308-1814.jpg

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/p180x540/1959224_10153942839605441_1876205775_n.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiOQG-6CAAA0ac-.jpg

[arko5]

Next one stage without Ogier splits...

[Doon]

Citroen seems to be a quite fast car.they just need a fast driver in it I suppose

How does one tell how fast a car is? By the driver that sets the times ;)

I think we know the DS3 is quick in the right hands.

[Eli]

who's VW is that?

[stefanvv]

who's VW is that?
On which photo?

[Eli]

the 2nd and 3rd photo

[jonkka]

Mikkelsen (number 9 on bonnet sticker)

[stefanvv]

the 2nd and 3rd photo
Mikkelsen's

[Eli]

oh, for a second there i thought it was Ogier.

[arko5]

Yellow mirrors has Mikkelsen, red - Latvala, blue - Ogier ;)

[Eli]

Yellow mirrors has Mikkelsen, red - Latvala, blue - Ogier ;)
i'll keep that in mind, cheers:)

[dimviii]

rally is over.Safe mode for vw.

[faateris]

Interesting rally ...... :)
Maybe rally can end after ss14.....

[Eli]

pretty much, bring on Portugal allready...

[Rallyper]

rally is over.Safe mode for vw.

Guess you´re right, but you never know....

[Rallyper]

So what´s wrong with Ogier´s tracking system? The rules says the ought to have such in order of functioning or just in the car without any responsibilty for the signal being correct?

[A FONDO]

what will we read in loeb fan pages tomorrow: after team orders Ogier won again :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[N.O.T]

Loeb fan pages ? why ?

[COD]

Citroen seems to be a quite fast car.they just need a fast driver in it I suppose

How does one tell how fast a car is? By the driver that sets the times ;)

I think we know the DS3 is quick in the right hands.

If östberg can set such times, a properly fast one could win in it

[rp]

rally is over.Safe mode for vw.

It was over already yesterday. Waiting for the Rally de Portugal...

[stefanvv]

rally is over.Safe mode for vw.

It was over already yesterday. Waiting for the Rally de Portugal...
What do you expect there?

[dimviii]

Loeb fan pages ? why ?
because Loebphobia is not easy to heal.Big damage at his case.

some photos for now.Pills i will sent tomorrow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rallymexico/

[wurc]

some stats when it comes to failures in first wrc season, what are the statistics of first seasons of the best wrc drivers ?

for instance:
Petter Solberg in his WRC debut season in 2000 out of 10 rallies he finished only 4, in his seocnd season from 14, he finished 8.
Jari-Matti Latvala in first WRC season out from 11, finished only 4
Mikko Hirvonen, 14 rallies, did not finish 6.
Ogier, did not finish 4 from 12

especially Latvala's statistics are bad, but who currently claim he doesn't deserve a place in WRC ?

therefore the conclusion is that those harsh opinions about Kubica are exagerated and claimed only by ignorants haters.

[N.O.T]

I checked some stats when it comes to failures in first wrc season, what are the statistics of first seasons of the best wrc drivers ?

for instance:
Petter Solberg in his WRC debut season in 2000 out of 10 rallies he finished only 4, in his seocnd season from 14, he finished 8.
Jari-Matti Latvala in first WRC season out from 11, finished only 4
Mikko Hirvonen, 14 rallies, did not finish 6.

especially Latvala's statistics are bad, but who currently claim he doesn't deserve a place in WRC ?

therefore the conclusion is that those harsh opinions about Kubica are exagerated and claimed only by ignorants haters.

LOL... funny guy.

[jonkka]

therefore the conclusion is that those harsh opinions about Kubica are exagerated and claimed only by ignorants haters.

Why do you defend him so fiercely?

[dimviii]

I checked some stats when it comes to failures in first wrc season, what are the statistics of first seasons of the best wrc drivers ?

for instance:
Petter Solberg in his WRC debut season in 2000 out of 10 rallies he finished only 4, in his seocnd season from 14, he finished 8.
Jari-Matti Latvala in first WRC season out from 11, finished only 4
Mikko Hirvonen, 14 rallies, did not finish 6.

especially Latvala's statistics are bad, but who currently claim he doesn't deserve a place in WRC ?

therefore the conclusion is that those harsh opinions about Kubica are exagerated and claimed only by ignorants haters.

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-4664-0-51703600-1394308501.png

[A FONDO]

"Close your eyes and support Krashica"

[eib1]

good one

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3582/13017079855_1a366ec81d_c.jpg

[Eli]

what's up with evans split???

[jonkka]

Glitch, I suppose

[Eli]

yes, cause it seems to be working now.

[Rallyper]

Kubica has done some bad offs, but too early to tell whether he´ll be strong in the future. Also Evans doing a good job so far.

[Eli]

VW about to have 40th stage win this year out of 52!!!! Unbeatable really...

[RS]

Can't see Atkinson getting too many more events after this performance :(

[RAS007]

Possible for Evans to overhaul Neuville?

[N.O.T]

not by driving...

[denkimi]

i don't know if ogier is very stupid, or very smart.
pushing to win every stage when the rally is already in the pocket doesn't seem like a smart thing to do, but maybe he needs it to stay focussed.

[N.O.T]

he doesn't push... cruise speed for everyone now.

[RAS007]

Can't see Atkinson getting too many more events after this performance :(

As stated earlier, I am not really sure what Hyundai are thinking with Atkinson. I cannot see him going much further.

[stefanvv]

Can't see Atkinson getting too many more events after this performance :(
Why not? Do you think they expect him to win Rallies? I think no, he must drive the car to the finish and help engineers with advices. On the other hand promote the brand in Australia.

[Mirek]

he doesn't push... cruise speed for everyone now.

Judging by Neuville's time I agree. Suddenly Hyundai is at +0,4 s/km while most of the time they were much worse (except SSS).


Why not? Do you think they expect him to win Rallies? I think no, he must drive the car to the finish and help engineers with advices. On the other hand promote the brand in Australia.

He is obviously struggling a lot with setting the car. It's questionable how much he can help by that.

[stefanvv]

Warm-up for the live stage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tNBq3hBAE

[stefanvv]

i don't know if ogier is very stupid, or very smart.
pushing to win every stage when the rally is already in the pocket doesn't seem like a smart thing to do, but maybe he needs it to stay focussed.
If Ogier was Timo Sallonen, right now he is driving with one hand, smoking cigar and drinking coffee with the other, the co-driver shifts the gears.

[dimviii]

He is obviously struggling a lot with setting the car. It's questionable how much he can help by that.

with more than 1,5 sec/km slower, this setup is useless.This is pace for r5/s2000 car.

[Kalm]

He is obviously struggling a lot with setting the car. It's questionable how much he can help by that.

with more than 1,5 sec/km slower, this setup is useless.This is pace for r5/s2000 car.

Tänak was 26sec faster then him on this stage with an r5, it cant be just setup :rolleyes:

[Barreis]

Well, somebody has to finish the rally in i20 wrc. Boss for sure told him that...

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen crash can be nominated for most spectacular of the year, yeah, this is just wrong

[HarriK]

link to live stage tv?

[6789]

http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport1.php

[HarriK]

http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport1.php

thanks!

[Simmi]

Mikkelsen crash can be nominated for most spectacular of the year, yeah, this is just wrong

Yep - good effort from Andreas. Reminded me of his GB 2007 roll.

http://axisofoversteer.com/blog/pictures/mikkelsen.jpg

[dimviii]

Wilson’s support for Kubica is unwavering and he feels expert help could rebuild the Pole’s fragile confidence.
“I am absolutely convinced that Robert will come good. We are looking towards a bigger push in the second half of the year, particularly on the asphalt events, but we have to address the issues that we have seen recently,” said Wilson.
“Robert and I had a good discussion at looking of ways to help, because he still doesn’t have big experience of rallying. Maybe we will bring in a co-driver, or a current or ex-driver to help, someone who has experience and understands things.
“Robert acknowledges his mind was totally different when he was racing and he has said he needs to start to look at the big picture in rallying. He said ‘I drive everything like a race and I need to get to understand the concept of the WRC’ ” added Wilson.
Wilson, whose M-Sport operation runs Kubica’s Ford Fiesta RS, doesn’t believe he is trying to push too hard. He said that even before last night’s roll at the León super special stage, Kubica’s target in Mexico was simply to finish.
“This morning we agreed that Robert would stay on Elfyn’s pace, which is what he did. We need Elfyn to finish so we said that was a sensible pace for Robert too,” he said.

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march-20 ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march-2014/kubica-support/page/1146--12-12-.html)

[litifeta]

Love watching all the Atkinson haters.

Atkinson 7th. Sweeping the road and scoring about the same gap as the rest when Ogier went for it in Spain last year. Non-stop technical issues. And was told to finish the rally, .5 behind Guerra SS16 on his home rally.

Kubica gone.
Mikko 8th.
Meeke 10th.

[RAS007]

Love watching all the Atkinson haters.

Atkinson 7th. Sweeping the road and scoring about the same gap as the rest when Ogier went for it in Spain last year. Non-stop technical issues. And was told to finish the rally, .5 behind Guerra SS16 on his home rally.

Kubica gone.
Mikko 8th.
Meeke 10th.

I don't think anyone hates Atkinson. For my part, I just don't understand what Hyundai are doing with him (when they already had Sordo, Hanninen and Neuville), apart from possibly raising brand awareness in Australia. 6 WRC podiums in 68 starts over 10 years is not a great CV.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkoooooooo !!! :cool:

[mousti]

Lol Meeke says he didn't go all out. Commentator says he's dissapointing about that there's a time of learing and there's a time of having fun. How could Meeke have fun, afterall he crashed out yesterday and should finish!

[Rallyper]

Mikko showing good speed!! :) :)

[Mirek]

Love watching all the Atkinson haters.

Don't even start with that... :o

[N.O.T]

Atkinson is done... nothing to offer anymore.

[Doon]

any live feeds for the SSS?

[dimviii]

is there any video with Meekes exit?

[stefanvv]

is there any video with Meekes exit?
can be found here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTW8MEE6hWk

[dimviii]

thanks stefan ;)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3617/1302 ... 8310_h.jpg (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3617/13020877995_cb67d58310_h.jpg)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2082/1302 ... 959f_h.jpg (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2082/13021272374_810ef1959f_h.jpg)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/1302 ... 4d48_h.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/13020872565_a722ba4d48_h.jpg)

[mousti]

Ogier almost rolled the car on SSS!

[dimviii]

Ogier almost rolled the car on SSS!


[SS17/18] Sebastien Ogier (Volkswagen) - Hit something and the car went up on 2 wheels, he nearly rolled it… That was close. Right rear tyre is off the rim. "A big one on the hairpin, it's okay, we just lost a bit of time. I did not expect that at all!"


[SS17/18] Jari-Matti Latvala (Volkswagen) "It has been an enjoyable day in a way. I have not been in a big competition as it has not been completely necessary. We go for the championship not for the rally."

[denkimi]

he doesn't push... cruise speed for everyone now.
then why is he driving pretty much all the scratches and still taking many risks?

he just doesn't seem to know when to back off, and he won't be lucky forever.

[N.O.T]

he doesn't push... cruise speed for everyone now.
then why is he driving pretty much all the scratches and still taking many risks?

he just doesn't seem to know when to back off, and he won't be lucky forever.

wake up son... taking risks ? how you came into that conclusion ?

His cruise speed is just a bit higher than the rest... in many rallies the leader usually posts fastest times because it is far safer to keep a fast pace that you are used to than to change your pace...

Luck has nothing to do with consistent champions and winners...

[denkimi]

[quote="N.O.T":26jficvj]he doesn't push... cruise speed for everyone now.
then why is he driving pretty much all the scratches and still taking many risks?

he just doesn't seem to know when to back off, and he won't be lucky forever.

wake up son... taking risks ? how you came into that conclusion ?

His cruise speed is just a bit higher than the rest... in many rallies the leader usually posts fastest times because it is far safer to keep a fast pace that you are used to than to change your pace...

Luck has nothing to do with consistent champions and winners...[/quote:26jficvj]
he allmost rolled it and lost the rally on a superspecial. i don't know what you consider cruising, but to me thats unnecessary pushing.
he did the same thing on the monte, and was very lucky a couple of times.

[N.O.T]

you have to distinguish between pushing and making mistakes... you can make mistakes even without pushing.

[N.O.T]

more cruising tomorrow but with a huge stage to go we might have some punctures that could change things.

[litifeta]

Love watching all the Atkinson haters.

For my part, I just don't understand what Hyundai are doing with him (when they already had Sordo, Hanninen and Neuville), apart from possibly raising brand awareness in Australia.

Aha. That is my issue. all these years in business here I was thinking it was about selling products to make money. But, I am enlightened now, apparently it is about winning rally races and having the fastest car and driver.

[sollitt]

Kubica will be the first driver who is going to have more retirements than starts... Clever.

[stefanvv]

Another great video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhMIcJWUPA

[RAS007]

Love watching all the Atkinson haters.

For my part, I just don't understand what Hyundai are doing with him (when they already had Sordo, Hanninen and Neuville), apart from possibly raising brand awareness in Australia.

Aha. That is my issue. all these years in business here I was thinking it was about selling products to make money. But, I am enlightened now, apparently it is about winning rally races and having the fastest car and driver.

Well, with 6 podiums out of 68 starts, I'd say it was about neither.

[litifeta]

Atkinson is very well liked in the Asia Pacific where he is considered a champion. Hyundai makes sure its customer base is being represented. If that means someone from Europe misses out, well that's marketing.

[SubaruNorway]

It's been raining i can see on the service cam, bet those road turn into a mud bath when they get wet.

[Barreis]

Bad job for Matton. Third rally and points difference will be significant...

[dimviii]

Kubica crash onboard ss13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6221C15-OoI
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/10013352_283288755159980_2059014463_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1544307_611046222278068_1939889704_n.jpg


bestofrallylive leg2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_pgKlIcZk

[dimviii]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/13027671734_c48f9daf5d_z.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3612/13027295205_46b802e7dc_z.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrall ... 027295205/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/13027295205/)

[bluuford]

It's been raining i can see on the service cam, bet those road turn into a mud bath when they get wet.
It was isolated rainshower. usually these are up to 25 km wide and quite heavy. But after long drought and due to high temperatures (ground and air) it is barely visible on the surface next morning.
However, today from at around 11, there is is also high chance of thunderstorms.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 4 ?????
Update on the weather conditions this morning. Thunderstorms passed through overnight, puddles in places on SSS and tarmac damp. Clear skies

[er88]

Bad job for Matton. Third rally and points difference will be significant...

What the hell you rambling on about now?? Matton and Citroen knew they were never aiming for the titles this year, he said that himself. If you still think the aim for them is to win the manufacturer's title then you are rather deluded :laugh:.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2. ... _No._4.pdf (http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2.5_Stewards_Decision_No._4.pdf)

http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2. ... _No._3.pdf (http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2.4_Stewards_Decision_No._3.pdf)

[stefanvv]

Kubica crash onboard ss13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6221C15-OoI
Missed the braking point again.

PS won't be live today? I don't see it scheduled at BT Sport

[Kalm]

http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2.5_Stewards_Decision_No._4.pdf
same story for Ford : http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/2.4_Stewards_Decision_No._3.pdf , wonder if their excuse was that they are new in the championship also :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica crash onboard ss13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6221C15-OoI
Missed the braking point again.

PS won't be live today? I don't see it scheduled at BT Sport

Its on ESPN live at 6pm (UK)... ;)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiS9TRzCQAASqRl.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

PS won't be live today? I don't see it scheduled at BT Sport

Its on ESPN live at 6pm (UK)... ;)
Thanks. :)

Ogier's mistake, just 2 beers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HslXIHqF5cA

[SubaruNorway]

Kubica crash onboard ss13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6221C15-OoI
Missed the braking point again.

PS won't be live today? I don't see it scheduled at BT Sport

Its on ESPN live at 6pm (UK)... ;)

This channel?
http://www.hqsport.tv/espn_uk.php

[arko5]

Let's play: Ogier splits will be available?

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 7 ?????
Last minute adjustments to his @HyundaiWRC before a huge day for @thierryneuville
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiTCFMkCUAAOeD0.jpg

[stefanvv]

Why is Latvala starting before Neuville? Did I miss something?

[arko5]

Just mistake

[stefanvv]

Ah ok, now it's fixed on wrc.com, didn't miss anything then.

[stefanvv]

SS20: Issues for Atkinson
He's 1m39.9s slower than Meeke and reports gearshift and brake problems with the Hyundai. He's going to bleed the brakes before the next stage.

[arko5]

strange time Protasov. Did he have agreement with Ostberg??

[focus206]

strange time Protasov. Did he have agreement with Ostberg??
Broken driveshaft for Protasov

[andyone]

link for live power stage. thanks

[stefanvv]

link for live power stage. thanks
May be here - http://www.hqsport.tv/espn_uk.php, we just wait and see

[Franky]

link for live power stage. thanks
May be here - http://www.hqsport.tv/espn_uk.php, we just wait and see

That stream is like looking a slide show. Cuts ever two seconds or so

[rage82]

Also here: http://cricfree.tv/espn-live-stream.php
Much better stream for me

[xavier]

Also here: http://cricfree.tv/espn-live-stream.php
Much better stream for me

thanks!

[HaCo]

Thanks for sharing the link. :bounce:

[HaCo]

Nooooooo :(

[focus206]

Kris!!! :eek:

[Francis44]

It didn't look like an hard impact.

[A FONDO]

kill him with stones

[Rallyper]

Just came in. What´s happening???

[HaCo]

Hit a stone and broke suspension. Don't know if you can say this is his fault, what do you guys think?

[Francis44]

It really didn't look like it was his fault, road has been used many times so I guess there are plenty of rocks around, that one looked like it was on the line.

If Im not mistaken that section of road has been used atleast 2 times this weekend no?

[Rallyper]

Rocks on the road has happened before in Mexico, haven´t it

[dimviii]

i missed the video,cant find a stream that works at Greece.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiTiCvECIAATvC1.png
Karlip ?@Karlip1 6 ?????
#WRC Kris Meeke, really angrily, throws the rock out of the road.

[dimviii]

hahahahaha Meeke get split 1 time on the tow truck :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

edit lets see if he will get and stage time :disturb: