Rally Poland 2014

[Langdale Forest]

How bad is the road damage?

[dimviii]

s. "It's horrible. The ruts are getting worse and worse. I spun on corner before the finish in a very fast corner. I couldn't hold the steering any more," said Neuville, who dropped 32.3sec.

There are ruts over a foot deep after seven cars. It's a disgrace," said a clearly upset Meeke.

havent see any photo though..

[Langdale Forest]

Worst ruts ever then? Are the conditions dry?

[makinen_fan]

Worst ruts ever then? Are the conditions dry?

Yes, very sandy. Mikko says that even in straights is it rutted

[Mirek]

Worst ruts ever then? Are the conditions dry?

No, Safari used to be more extreme for sure.

[Frostmourne]

Is it because of the ruts back drivers are slow? are the ruts giving advantage for Ogier because he is first on the road?

[Mirek]

Is it because of the ruts back drivers are slow? are the ruts giving advantage for Ogier because he is first on the road?

Yes, You are right.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nothing for Ogier to moan about starting first on the road this time ...

[Eli]

Nothing for Ogier to moan about starting first on the road this time ...

took my words out of my mouth.

[Frostmourne]

Nothing for Ogier to moan about starting first on the road this time ...

Give me talent and alot of Luck and I will be WRC champion in no time :p

[Rallyper]

Rally Poland so popular and good rally. But no good stages...

[makinen_fan]

SS7 cancelled for safety reasons

[Rallyper]

SS7 cancelled for safety reasons

No stagematerial left??

[Langdale Forest]

Will SS8 run ?

[Eli]

Will SS8 run ?

who knows?

[Langdale Forest]

How bad are the conditions? Any pictures?

[N.O.T]

This happens when you have a very weak sport...one team dictating what is going to happen. If there were 2-3 strong manufacturers i doubt VW would cancel the stage with such ease to protect the lead...

[mm1]

Considering their road possition, they would extend the lead.

[EightGear]

This happens when you have a very weak sport...one team dictating what is going to happen. If there were 2-3 strong manufacturers i doubt VW would cancel the stage with such ease to protect the lead...

VW was actually benefitted by the road conditions.

[jonkka]

On the first run yes, on second the conditions are equally hazardous to everybody. Hence, NOT is correct in saying that cancellations serves VW's interests. But I doubt VW influenced the decision in any way.

[dimviii]

No stagematerial left??

Rally @Official_iRally · 27 λεπ.
CofC quote here: SS7 cancelled because a number of spectators were in unsafe places and the condition of the track surface had deteriorated

[arko5]

SS8 cancelled - the same reason like in SS7

[mousti]

Probablly SS8 also cancelled..

[makinen_fan]

SS8 cancelled as well... so the whole travel to lithuania just for 30km

[dimviii]

nice move from fia to choose Poland for wrc rally.
Maybe smartest from the shoot out rule.

[N.O.T]

VW was actually benefitted by the road conditions.

Yes they WERE...

but now the danger for them retiring is far bigger...first of all because they did not run the rutted roads and they have no idea how to amend the notes for the 2nd... while the drivers who ran low in the order now will have better notes...

[N.O.T]

nice move from fia to choose Poland for wrc rally.
Maybe smartest from the shoot out rule.

It is not their mistake... probably the rain softened the roads.... the stages are perfect and very fast.

[mm1]

You may have a point there.

[jonkka]

Who? Where? Huh?

[AndyRAC]

Maybe they should have kept Poland as Tarmac.....??

[dimviii]

It is not their mistake... probably the rain softened the roads.... the stages are perfect and very fast.

plenty of fans have stated before rally,that stages at Lithuania will not cope at wrc cars pass for 2nd time.If i remember right i had read already here something like that.
That organization cant keep fans inside safe zones is again their fault.
That fia choosed Poland to organize a wrc event is their choice after they asked the entry for 3 years.

[bluuford]

It is not their mistake... probably the rain softened the roads.... the stages are perfect and very fast.

I think that mistake was to inclue such a stages from Lithuania. There are much better roads than these but somehow they chose the roads that locate nearly in the middle of nowhere and have never seen such a pressure by cars.

[dimviii]

only the shoot out will save our sport.

Rally @Official_iRally · 3 δευτ.
Ogier came into Service at 0700. Assuming no reseed ahead of SSS, he'll have spent over 15 hours to complete 59.17km of competitive stages..

[Mirek]

Maybe they should have kept Poland as Tarmac.....??

Poland was tarmac ten years a go. The gravel roads are great. They are soft especially when wet but why not? It's a kind of challenge. Anyway have a look on the footage from last years ERC editions. There were heavy rains through the rally and I am pretty sure it was much worse than today. Those Lithuanian stages seem to be a mistake though.

From 2013 ERC :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVSuvEq5MQE

[makinen_fan]

only the shoot out will save our sport.

Rally @Official_iRally · 3 δευτ.
Ogier came into Service at 0700. Assuming no reseed ahead of SSS, he'll have spent over 15 hours to complete 59.17km of competitive stages..

44km actually

It is the organisers' fault to use roads that have not been proven in the past. Did the FIA push them to include the Lithuanian stages, or was it their own decision?

[Langdale Forest]

Would it have been impossible to run SS7 & SS8?

[rallyfiend]

Maybe they should have kept Poland as Tarmac.....??

They should have just kept Poland in, you know, Poland......

[Nornbugger]

Would it have been impossible to run SS7 & SS8?

Impossible is a big word, I'm sure it would have been possible, I'm also sure it would have been silly

[Mirek]

Would it have been impossible to run SS7 & SS8?

Usually the limiting factor is emergency cars. If ambulance can't go through You can not risk to hold the stage even if rally cars can do it.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen cut from onboard,also Evans missed the junction where Kubica rolled

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/videos/page/112--80--.html?v=199974

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Too many gravel rallies anyway.O Get back on proper ROADS.

[Rallyper]

This is not professional taken care of. Too much snow in RMC and they cancel. Too much ruts in Poland (Lithuania) they cancel. Blame it on the fans then. Much better than admitting very big failure in organizing.

[stefanvv]

This is not professional taken care of. Too much snow in RMC and they cancel. Too much ruts in Poland (Lithuania) they cancel. Blame it on the fans then. Much better than admitting very big failure in organizing.

agree 100%. moreover it's wrc!

[dimviii]

we have so many hours break due to cancelled stages.
If you search for some news at the net,guess what!!

no news at all!!!
its a world championship,and there is NO NEWS!!!!!!!!!!
Not a single interview from service,not a single photo from stages,nothing.

[makinen_fan]

Best of rally live have uploaded few photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive
I cant see any serious ruts though :confused:

Have you guys found any photos showing how bad is the problem with the stages?

[edmundas]

Best of rally live have uploaded few photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive
I cant see any serious ruts though :confused:

Have you guys found any photos showing how bad is the problem with the stages?

I am Lithuanian, I feel shame our organizers choose these roads. We have a lot really nice roads (gravel roads for rally)

[dimviii]

thanks edmundas,can you find some more photos from rutted stages?

[Mirek]

That looks really bad. Something more. I don't know what is the source, I copied links from another forum.

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10494603_10152145918692001_6166167529189873008_n.j pg
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10462931_10152145918027001_5769284988876495771_n.j pg

[dimviii]

really bad condition..

[makinen_fan]

This is much worse!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrJjjQbIQAEwUI3.jpg

[edmundas]

no comments

[bluuford]

I am so agree with you. Like I told you before, there are many nice rally roads in Lithuania and they choose some forrest paths at the end of World.. that means 4 km from Belarussian border where you need visa to go further south than 4 km. This is beautiful region but these roads are not for WRCars.
Tänak described that he was driving like inside the earth :-P This rally has huge potential, unfortunately they have not used it properly.

[MartijnS]

Wow that are some seriously big ruts indeed!

[dimviii]

official site after the ''breaking news'' with stages cancelled no more news after so many hours.

they adviced us to watch videos from past while waiting.

and they are trying to find some tricks for new viewers for rallies with shoot out.Capito thinks that the shoot out is missing for success.

[Langdale Forest]

No surprise why the stages were cancelled then, all of the cars would have been grounded if the 2nd runs had taken place.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re: No news...

Thats why I left the 'too many gravel rallies' post to try to spark something to talk about in the long wait...

But no-one bites !

[Rallyper]

Roads choosen are not proper car roads. Made only with sand layers. No serious organizer choose such roads. I feel sorry for you guys from Lithuania knowing/saying there are so many other nice stages they could have choosen.

[Eli]

Re: No news...

Thats why I left the 'too many gravel rallies' post to try to spark something to talk about in the long wait...

But no-one bites !

you want Sanremo & Corsica back?

[dimviii]

136 km/h average

[arko5]

136,88 km/h ;)

[Doon]

Why are there no time on WRC.com for SS9? Anyone else got times?

[dimviii]

Why are there no time on WRC.com for SS9? Anyone else got times?

http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/

[papar007]

Or http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&idEpr=SS9&typf=split&car=1

[dimviii]

Neuville on problem?

[papar007]

Lost time for Neuville

[makinen_fan]

Why are there no time on WRC.com for SS9?

Because it is run by a bunch of amateurs ... i have lost my faith in them long ago

[Eli]

red brakes for Neuville

[Doon]

http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/

Thank you!

Does anyone have a feed for the SSS tonight?

[dimviii]

Neuville on problem?

Neuville doesn't stop at stage control, stops afterwards, jacks up i20... rear left disc glowing red @rajdpolski

[dimviii]

Neuville doesn't stop at stage control, stops afterwards, jacks up i20... rear left disc glowing red @rajdpolski

Crew tries to remove caliper with rag which catches fire...

[dimviii]

FRI 19:41 - SS9: PROKOP AND SOLBERG THROUGH
The two Fiesta RS drivers pass Neuville's Hyundai as flames suddenly break out at the rear of his car. The fire marshals are quickly on the scene and douse the flames with foam.

[dimviii]

Fire in left rear - fire crew extinguishing....car covered in foam says Clark...Neuville asks for extra

[dimviii]

FRI 19:44 - SS9: MORE FLAMES
The heat coming from the rear brakes of Neuville's car is immense and every now and then the flames flare up again. It's not looking so good for Thierry at the moment.

[jonkka]

Thanks but I got livetext open myself.

[dimviii]

Thanks but I got livetext open myself.

its not for you.

[jonkka]

Nothing ever is

[dimviii]

iRally @Official_iRally · 3 δευτ.
Neuville: "Problem was handbrake...little locking in the stage...very hot...the brakes are disconnected now and we can go safely back"

[dimviii]

Fuchs: "He [Kruuda] roll over and he's out of the road...I think he is OK..."

[edmundas]

Roads choosen are not proper car roads. Made only with sand layers. No serious organizer choose such roads. I feel sorry for you guys from Lithuania knowing/saying there are so many other nice stages they could have choosen.

If you would know the situation in Lithuania's Motorsport federation you wouldn't be surprised that they choose these "world rally level roads". I could write a book about Lithuania's Motorsport federation fails and it would be the best seller among motorsport fans all over the world.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hirvonen after SS9 "It was better now, we manage to correct the notes but still slow so we are just not fast enough..."

No sh1t Mikko ! :rolleyes:

[makinen_fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnGMXZ4GTW4&feature=em-uploademail

[Fast Eddie WRC]

you want Sanremo & Corsica back?

More Tarmac but different kinds to what we have - Ireland with narrow lanes and big jumps and Madeira / Canarias with spectacular roads & scenery, would be better.

Too many consecutive WRC gravel rallies (6) getting boring.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sun will be down so no repeat of this at the SSS later ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrFdkaLCUAAd8uZ.jpg:large

[Eli]

More Tarmac but different kinds to what we have - Ireland with narrow lanes and big jumps and Madeira / Canarias with spectacular roads & scenery, would be better.

Too many consecutive WRC gravel rallies (6) getting boring.

rally of ireland like it was back in 2007 & 2009 or Circuit of Ireland?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrKCfnSIMAEjNv1.jpg:large

[Langdale Forest]

And how can the rally be called Rally Poland if some of the stages are in Lithuania?
Same as rally SWEDEN having stages in Norway.

[MartijnS]

Kruuda!

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10494767_627026770726390_224983923477408817_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

rally of ireland like it was back in 2007 & 2009 or Circuit of Ireland?

'Circuit of Ireland' (although now only in N.Ireland). Best stages in the world according to drivers this year...

[Rallyper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnGMXZ4GTW4&feature=em-uploademail

These guys can reflect the spirit of WRC. Why not let them do the whole media thing??

[Francis44]

These guys can reflect the spirit of WRC. Why not let them do the whole media thing??

Indeed however those slow motion and highspeed shots really started to get on my nerves long time ago. It's fine when you use it once in a while but their videos consist 98.9% of those.

[MartijnS]

Way too much slowmo's indeed!

[dimviii]

guys dont forget that borl=michelin and this site-videos wants to show their tyres,how they cope with gravel/rocks/asphalt/snow/mud,thats why they focus at wheels with slow motion.
Even that in mind they have way better videos from the bunch of amateurs.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrKMufyIcAAtHAE.jpg

[arko5]

Some live streaming SSS10?

[skarderud]

that slowmo of østberg at 0.48 is really sweet shot, however!
that is rally, pushing like hell:)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tonight has been a nice break from the WC football and the non-stop Suarez chat ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrKRa4zCUAAHvwr.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikko After Day 2: "Need to find faster pacenotes!"

Errr... :rolleyes:

[Rallyper]

But no good slowmotion without good pics and angels.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/09/93/Rallye_Polen_2014_090_99395_53add278b1.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/09/94/Rallye_Polen_2014_083_99405_53add27ec6.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/09/93/Rallye_Polen_2014_077_99391_53add29a5a.jpg

[PLuto]

Start list into second leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=461

[COD]

Mikko After Day 2: "Need to find faster pacenotes!"

Errr... :rolleyes:

He has done the WRC for 11years and still doesn't know how to make proper pacenotes????

[Jafry]

Photos from Friday HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1277

[Munkvy]

So what are the thoughts on the roads for tomorrow? Is it an advantage to be near the front of the starting order, or will the roads not cut up as much?

[jonkka]

Indeed however those slow motion and highspeed shots really started to get on my nerves long time ago. It's fine when you use it once in a while but their videos consist 98.9% of those.

And coverage should not be a music video.

[dimviii]

SS11 Henning Solberg has damage to front of Fiesta on opening stage...no apparent leaks

[Tauri_J]

So what are the thoughts on the roads for tomorrow? Is it an advantage to be near the front of the starting order, or will the roads not cut up as much?

roads will be fine.

Dont know why Lithuanian officials chose those cotton cand'ish sand roads for WRC rally....makes no sense

[dimviii]

TYRE NEWS Paddon/Hänninen/VW/Østberg 6 soft Michelin Latitude Cross. Ford/Meeke/Neuville 5 softs

[jonkka]

Neuville commented: "but it will get more and more difficult for the others"

What does this comment mean? Are roads cutting up again badly, this is different area from yesterday?

[jonkka]

Ostberg on attack-mode :eek:

[papar007]

Where is everybody?

[Tauri_J]

Tänak drove half the stage with wrong pacenotes lol

[Criterium]

Just a slight off topic (I didn't find any relevant discussion on the forum). Pikes Peak animated 3D map is available on RallyVista, with Street View option as bonus.
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/15/38/23/21/presrv12.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1095&u=15382321)

http://www.interactiveinfluence.com/techali/rallyvista/

[Brother John]

This is not professional taken care of. Too much snow in RMC and they cancel. Too much ruts in Poland (Lithuania) they cancel. Blame it on the fans then. Much better than admitting very big failure in organizing.

They should use the older Classic styled cars back, when they had much less problems on stages with much Snow and Ruts.

[Brother John]

Please do not place it on rally threads. http://www.interactiveinfluence.com/techali/rallyvista/

[irish_tiger]

Sébastien Chardonnet ??? where is he ? ..... oh now i see , he's gone off

[Sulland]

What happened to Mikkelsen on ss12?

[makinen_fan]

What happened to Mikkelsen on ss12?

overshot a junction and couldnt engage reverse i think

[Eli]

rubbish wrc.com- they really need to improve it...

[jonkka]

Go do it for them if you're that good.

[Eli]

if i could i would, they hardly have any spilts

[jonkka]

I see plenty of splits.

[Eli]

it takes them a long time,when the world rally radio talked about them i didn't see them, now i do after refreshing a lot of times

[jonkka]

If you insist on listening to WRR, then you'd probably be better off by looking at the splits on Citroen's site. See link earlier in this thread or ask dimvii.

[Eli]

thankx

[HaCo]

Neuville catching Hirvonene :-)

[papar007]

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&idEpr=SS13&typf=split&car=1

Citroen

[HaCo]

Neuville catching Hirvonene :-)


And over Kubica! :D

[Eli]

Ogier going to win this...if he doesn't make a mistake or roll or whatever he will win.. VW 1-?-?

[jonkka]

Rather early to predict that since most of the rally is still to be driven. Yet, he's made a habit of winning so it's the most likely outcome.

[Eli]

Rather early to predict that since most of the rally is still to be driven. Yet, he's made a habit of winning so it's the most likely outcome.
yep.

[HaCo]

Next is 35km.

[HaCo]

I hope this is not a cooling problem on the Citroen R5:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNPuk5CEAEzIPS.jpg

[HaCo]

Holowczyc:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNTRmCCUAAjPwE.jpg
https://twitter.com/powrotroberta/status/482821151815921665/photo/1

[papar007]

Evans stop,Meeke loosing time

[jonkka]

Long one always provides the action...

[Eli]

looks like slow puncture for Meeke, maybe

[jonkka]

He's going to lose a lot of places

[jonkka]

Evans' off seems to cause a lot of trouble for the others... let's see what comes out of this...

[Eli]

he will be 13th if not lower in the standings after this stage

[papar007]

Meeke cause trouble to JM for sure

[Rallyper]

Evans' off seems to cause a lot of trouble for the others... let's see what comes out of this...

There shouldn´t be anything. Things happen on stages. No babys driving. They are men, still, hopefully.

[Eli]

yep front left puncture for Kris.

[jonkka]

There shouldn´t be anything. Things happen on stages. No babys driving. They are men, still, hopefully.

Neuville was about to overtake Hirvonen but had to slow down and lost most he had gained.

[Eli]

what a bad stage for Citroen, Mads Ostberg stopped...

[rage82]

Mads is stopped now

[HaCo]

Omg, a lot of problems! Hyundai's did very good times!!

[papar007]

What a stage!!!

[Rallyper]

When will this come to an end? I mean drivers bad luck, or something. Now chaos at the WRR Radio... No comments from GD. Silence.

[HaCo]

Spectacular, Mikkelsen takes the lead!!!

[jonkka]

Vw 1-2-3

[Eli]

will there be a rally this year where both Citroens finish the rally and in the top 10 please!!!!

[HaCo]

And another stage. If the damper of JML comes through his bonnet he is in big trouble!

[papar007]

Probably Ogier lost time from Ostberg

[Eli]

Vw 1-2-3

told you. but as you said before, let's see what will happen in the second loop.

[jonkka]

Mikkelsen's time is interesting. If everyone else slowed down at the end and he didn't... Apparently there were no yellow flags, just marshals on the road...

[Rallyper]

One more stage to go before service. How could they dare going with only one spare wheel. Kubica pays for that mistake now.

[Eli]

who else has only one spare with him?

[HaCo]

JML:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNd0HTCIAAvvNI.jpg

[HaCo]

Meeke:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNd_ryCcAAQYld.jpg

[Rallyper]

Ruts and bad stages causes problems even in Poland...

[Eli]

why do these things always happen to Citroen and when it does happen in VW, Latvala is the one to suffer?!!!

[jonkka]

Karma? :eek:

[Eli]

i don't know but it annoys me like hell, i hope they'll fair better when I come to Finland next time round

[Eli]

Citroen has confirmed that Mads hit a rock and rolled. The accident seems to have happened close to, or at the same place, as Elfyn Evans, hit trouble.

[dimviii]

Evans trying to fix suspension problem
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNem6KCIAAljy9.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNbFX3CAAMwj18.jpg:large

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNfs84CQAEGtlQ.jpg

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen fined €5000 for cutting on SS2 & warned about future behaviour - will be excluded from rally concerned if he offends again in 2014

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNHiTHIEAA8BLa.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC

SAT 12:40 - SS14: TOP 6
We reckon the stage results are provisional as we expect Ogier to be credited with the time lost when he stopped at Ostberg's crash. But the times on the board are: 1. Mikkelsen 17min 24.2sec 2. Ogier 18.5sec 3. Hanninen 23.4sec 4. Neuville 25.0sec 5. Hirvonen 27.3sec 6. Kubica 30.7sec

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10509602_810503902303880_5123276331243255533_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10409316_597328237048154_1649010069728319509_n.jpg ?oh=2436a87ccad9c3d49011ed68243b9459&oe=5411DD18&__gda__=1410387877_04e545bb368e7dea7064de048f7b163 6

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/1782177_668295979917127_6122454432748387383_n.jpg

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen fined €5000 for cutting on SS2 & warned about future behaviour - will be excluded from rally concerned if he offends again in 2014
Saw the onboard and I find this quite correct.

[Rallyper]

WRC

SAT 12:40 - SS14: TOP 6
We reckon the stage results are provisional as we expect Ogier to be credited with the time lost when he stopped at Ostberg's crash. But the times on the board are: 1. Mikkelsen 17min 24.2sec 2. Ogier 18.5sec 3. Hanninen 23.4sec 4. Neuville 25.0sec 5. Hirvonen 27.3sec 6. Kubica 30.7sec

Why? These things happen all the time! When VW is hit they should change times? Never else.

[noel157]

Saw the onboard and I find this quite correct.

Got a link for the on-board? Thanks.

[dimviii]

Got a link for the on-board? Thanks.

just this photo from official site
http://images.wrc.com/News/3140_Mikkelsenonboard-Poland-2014_416_896x504.jpg?

[Medved]

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/videos/page/112--80--.html - here, but video from stages 3-6 (first in "All videos") , time 0:50

[HaCo]

Got a link for the on-board? Thanks.
Here it is:
http://youtu.be/gqFnrwORlfQ?t=54s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Mads (and us), the closest to a challenger to VW that we have....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNhqpNIEAA66ci.jpg

[noel157]

Thanks Dimviii, Medved and Haco.
Hardly the worst off stage shortcut we've seen but best to try and stop such things I suppose.

[Sulland]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10509602_810503902303880_5123276331243255533_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10409316_597328237048154_1649010069728319509_n.jpg ?oh=2436a87ccad9c3d49011ed68243b9459&oe=5411DD18&__gda__=1410387877_04e545bb368e7dea7064de048f7b163 6

How can the safety people of the rally, and 0 cars let people stand in the outside of bends like this? Not good.

[dimviii]

i am curious to see if Latvalas polo will manage the 15km of stage 15 with the broken suspension.

[dimviii]

M-Sport
‏@MSportLtd
Update on Elfyn. He clipped a rock and damaged lower front suspension link. Unable to repair on stage. Should restart under Rally 2 tomorrow


also what will do Kubica with no spares and flat tyre.

[dimviii]

Thanks Dimviii, Medved and Haco.
Hardly the worst off stage shortcut we've seen but best to try and stop such things I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tQ4ULAhwk

[HaCo]

Outdoor footage of Andres cut:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=724314050960031

[noel157]

Wasn't the best of shortcuts, should've stayed on the road. No trees.
Not sure it was on purpose.

[dimviii]

i am curious to see if Latvalas polo will manage the 15km of stage 15 with the broken suspension.

VW says Latvala has made repairs and will start the stage

[Eli]

http://cricfree.eu/bt-sport-2.php live streaming for anyone who needs it

[jonkka]

Solberg starts faster but is slower in the end - always.

[dimviii]

Mads ss 14
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrN3IpBCcAAxR3I.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Ogier time for SS14 adjusted after blockage by stricken Østberg DS3 WRC. New time 17:21.7 - and he leads Mikkelsen by 16.7 seconds

[dimviii]

i wonder how Kubica fixed his flat tyre? foam?

[dimviii]

Latvala loosing 20 sec at 1st split.

[Andre Oliveira]

Latvala :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML strut causing damage... Omg !!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10382553_143087095861904_48153136400119999_o.jpg

[dimviii]

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[jonkka]

I think it's time to call it quits and stop following this rally. I'll tune in to check the final result sometime next week.

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

wow...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10509687_667273766694892_3520319417881751668_n.jpg ?oh=1486c21680673d80a9c84d767b376903&oe=5429A963&__gda__=1412459653_12f582752865072b4f0537254dd2726 f

[dimviii]

Latvala can climb up to 4th imho

[denkimi]

Ogier time for SS14 adjusted after blockage by stricken Østberg DS3 WRC. New time 17:21.7 - and he leads Mikkelsen by 16.7 seconds

that is complete bullshit. they should have given him the same time as mikkelsen since there's no way to know if he would have been faster.

[Rallyper]

Ogier time for SS14 adjusted after blockage by stricken Østberg DS3 WRC. New time 17:21.7 - and he leads Mikkelsen by 16.7 seconds

So unbelievebly wrong. Rallying is rallying. I´m pretty sure this haven´t happened if it was anyone else but a VW-driver. So now on everytime a driver been blocked or hindered in some way, times will be adjusted?? Don´t think so...

[Rallyper]

Now let´s wait for second run through being cancelled because of ruts on stages...

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/p180x540/10502062_10152588609354973_6477544090199171647_n.j pg
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[dimviii]

TYRE NEWS WRC MIchelin 6 soft Latitude Cross for all drivers exceopt Kubica who has 5....@michelin_sport

[Eli]

TYRE NEWS WRC MIchelin 6 soft Latitude Cross for all drivers exceopt Kubica who has 5....@michelin_sport

i don't get it-hasn't Kubica learned his lesson the first time round?

[dimviii]

seems that he is looking for speed inside his homeland.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice pic of Mikko & the fast road...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrOVp0iIcAARNPU.jpg:large

[Eli]

you mean slow Mikko and Fast stage

[Eli]

and now Robert Kubica taken his Rear Right wheel off...

[HaCo]

Hirvonen slower than Neuville on the splits.

[dimviii]

seems that he is looking for speed inside his homeland.

SNAP Kubica out - right rear wheel off

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Grim event for M-Sport... again. :(

[HaCo]

Awesome battle for third!

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen settle for 2nd...

[Eli]

Mikkelsen settle for 2nd...

as predicted

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kruuda's 208T16 was totally destroyed yesterday...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrOQ0a-IMAAUPiD.jpg:large

[Ucci]

Kubica-again disappointing, no need for this maneuver....my pickems go by-bye....

[HaCo]

While waiting...
http://www.autosport.com/goodwood-festival-of-speed-live/

[dimviii]

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[RAS007]

Grim event for M-Sport... again. :(

You are right, but I really don't think Malcolm cares. They are a customer outfit now, and making plenty of money, and that seems to be the priority, rather than being competitive.

[Nornbugger]

You are right, but I really don't think Malcolm cares. They are a customer outfit now, and making plenty of money, and that seems to be the priority, rather than being competitive.

Kubica and Neuville both have shown clearly that the Fiesta is a decent car, that there is a gulf between Ogiers ability and the rest is a big problem for more than Malcolm.

[Eli]

no 2nd split for Meeke, i bet trouble caught up with him...:(

[Eli]

now it's there

[HaCo]

Neuville in third. I hope he keeps it on the road!

[Andre Oliveira]

I am fan of Neuville but this time i hope Hänninen overtakes him :) Juho deserve

[AndyRAC]

You are right, but I really don't think Malcolm cares. They are a customer outfit now, and making plenty of money, and that seems to be the priority, rather than being competitive.

Malcolm is at Paul Ricard for the Blancpain GT race - rather than Poland; I think that says it all.

[Eli]

Yves Matton has hardly been in recent Rallies also, so that also gives indication of where they are investing

[eib1]

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[RAS007]

Malcolm is at Paul Ricard for the Blancpain GT race - rather than Poland; I think that says it all.

Indeed it does.

[stefanvv]

So unbelievebly wrong. Rallying is rallying. I´m pretty sure this haven´t happened if it was anyone else but a VW-driver. So now on everytime a driver been blocked or hindered in some way, times will be adjusted?? Don´t think so...

In Sardegna there was also credit for Paddon (I think).

[stefanvv]

that is complete bullshit. they should have given him the same time as mikkelsen since there's no way to know if he would have been faster.

In Sardegna they credited Paddon based on onboard footage calculated time.

[stefanvv]

wow...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10509687_667273766694892_3520319417881751668_n.jpg ?oh=1486c21680673d80a9c84d767b376903&oe=5429A963&__gda__=1412459653_12f582752865072b4f0537254dd2726 f
Amazing this car lasts 15km stage. I don't remember such occasion recently with WRC car with broken suspension.

[papar007]

P Solberg in Greece

[JTGANG]

Pity Hanninen cannot keep his position.....

[papar007]

P Solberg in Greece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByW41KSLoG4

[stefanvv]

P Solberg in Greece

I remember that one, but wasn't he retired after this?

[papar007]

I remember that one, but wasn't he retired after this?

No he finnish 8 minutes slower than winner Novikof

[papar007]

Then he retire on service

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrOqq8NCEAEavEp.jpg

[dimviii]

Amazing this car lasts 15km stage. I don't remember such occasion recently with WRC car with broken suspension.
nothing new,even without wheel for much more kms in stage+liasion.

[dimviii]

meanwhile at service from the rain
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrOvnEUCMAAom4U.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica onboard, taking wheel off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvMf13yeKwc

Damage close-up now back in service:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrPZcmhCUAE-qth.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrPJVrxCEAA5_5l.png

https://soundcloud.com/jari-matti-wrc/ss19-goldap-2

[Eli]

good thing he won the stage then...and by quite some margain

[stefanvv]

"No mercy", yeah sure, he usually does exactly that.

[stefanvv]

nothing new,even without wheel for much more kms in stage+liasion.

Sure it's not new, but in last 10 years or so it is;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroën Racing ‏
We regret to announce that Mads Ostberg won't be able to start under rally 2 regulation because his DS3's rollcage was damaged.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great pic of JML... and his strut !! :crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrPjyPKCEAAo-DV.png:large

[stefanvv]

Great pic of JML... and his strut !! :crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrPjyPKCEAAo-DV.png:large

The spring "sprang" to see who is that driver:D (In other circumstanses)

[pucky54]

Riedemann???