WALES RALLY GB 2014

[Priorat]

You are an artist!

[janvanvurpa]

Wow Tom, wonderful piccies.. keep it up.

[tommeke_B]

Thanks for all reactions! It's great to see some people appreciate my photos. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great photo's Tom... love this one especially, really atmospheric:

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0441/images/114.jpg

[Allyc85]

Those shots are stunning!

Short vid from Brenig, shame about the tree..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID-MKqmuXto&feature=youtu.be

[eib1]

K.Kruuda/M.Järveoja Wales Rally GB 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGB5pr38KE

[nafpaktos]

From motorsport monday for wgb rally.

M.H What about the new possibility of public road closure.will that enable you to join adjacent forest stages together to make more competitive sections?

A.K Thats what we will be looking at if the new legislation comes through.we already close roads in the forests,in remote areas,for rally gb to control the spectator traffic so we dont clogged up but we have no right to remove the speed limit.

I know they use private roads for the rally but i thought they were using also public roads.from what i read i understand that they use ony private roads right?this is also the rule for every rally in the island?what he means when he says they cant remove speed limits??

[N.O.T]

From motorsport monday for wgb rally.

M.H What about the new possibility of public road closure.will that enable you to join adjacent forest stages together to make more competitive sections?

A.K Thats what we will be looking at if the new legislation comes through.we already close roads in the forests,in remote areas,for rally gb to control the spectator traffic so we dont clogged up but we have no right to remove the speed limit.

I know they use private roads for the rally but i thought they were using also public roads.from what i read i understand that they use ony private roads right?this is also the rule for every rally in the island?what he means when he says they cant remove speed limits??

the only rally that uses public roads is the Jim Clark rally i think... if the new legislation passes it will be good for the sport here, about the speed limits currently they use public roads for spectator traffic and to connect stages between them that is why they cannot remove speed limits due to the law, witht he new legislation they will be able to lift those limits and use those connecting roads as special stages as well.... i think.

[Steve Boyd]

Under the laws of England, Wales and Scotland you can close a road but all the road traffic laws still apply. So speed limits & laws about driving with due care stop you from rallying or racing. There is even a specific law against "racing on the public highway". The organisers of the Jim Clark Rally and the Tour of Mull each applied to Parliament for special local laws to let them suspend the road traffic laws so they could run their rallies. This took a long time and cost the events a lot of money which is why no other events have tried. The new legislation will allow organisers of rallies, sprints, hillclimbs or races to apply to the local authorities to close roads and suspend the road traffic laws for motorsport in the same way that roads on the Isle of Man and in Ireland can be closed. There are already plans to run some closed road asphalt stage rallies. Organisers of gravel stage rallies in the forests are looking at new stages that will cross public roads linking two short stages in a forest to make one longer stage.

[nafpaktos]

So until now asphalt rallies or hillclimbs didnt take place in U.K?

[N.O.T]

So until now asphalt rallies or hillclimbs didnt take place in U.K?

they did on private roads.

[Mintexmemory]

So until now asphalt rallies or hillclimbs didnt take place in U.K?

As NOT said we have had Hill climbs (since the 1920s) usually in the private grounds of the estate of an aristo - although Shelsley Walsh is private road owned by a car club.
Asphalt rallies have been held on the Army roads in Wales (Eppynt) and England (Otterburn) in addition to the Jim Clark and the Tour of Mull. there is a long tradition of night road rallies where the route is plotted by the co-driver immediately before the start and instruction given to the driver by interpreting the 1:50000 map. During the 1970s these had become de facto asphalt events with fully prepared cars (RS1800, Fiat 131 Kadettes etc.) being used. Due to police pressure this was curbed by further MSA control to ensure such events remained legal

[nafpaktos]

As NOT said we have had Hill climbs (since the 1920s) usually in the private grounds of the estate of an aristo - although Shelsley Walsh is private road owned by a car club.
after 1920s?


there is a long tradition of night road rallies where the route is plotted by the co-driver immediately before the start and instruction given to the driver by interpreting the 1:50000 map. During the 1970s these had become de facto asphalt events with fully prepared cars (RS1800, Fiat 131 Kadettes etc.) being used. Due to police pressure this was curbed by further MSA control to ensure such events remained legalif i understamd well this were rallies on open public roads with pure rally cars without pace notes,right?

[dodge33cymru]

Street circuit wise, there is also this legend: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver%27s_Mount

Although I don't know whether it's private or not, but I assume it must be.

[Mintexmemory]

Street circuit wise, there is also this legend: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver%27s_Mount

Although I don't know whether it's private or not, but I assume it must be.

Its the right of way through a council owned park which they can close off - the whole circuit is used for motor cycle races as well as a rally stage.

[Mintexmemory]

after 1920s?

if i understamd well this were rallies on open public roads with pure rally cars without pace notes,right?

Picture is of me navigating in a Mini Cooper 1401cc (full stage prepared) My 6th ever rally if I recall correctly. We finished 8th behind RS1600s, RS2000s and a TR8
This was a minor rally but for the premier series, The Motoring News Championship, the speeds were unreal!

[Rallyper]

Is it George Harrison as co-driver? Nice pic from those days btw.

[Mintexmemory]

Is it George Harrison as co-driver? Nice pic from those days btw.


Per, this is UK- So Driver( a guy called Ian Lambert) on the left of the picture, me (in British Leyland cap) as navigator on the right. He actually looks more like
Andy Fraser of the group Free, who were big in the 70s.

[Rallyper]

Oh, sorry. So confusing when youre used to LHD cars... Looks more you are the driver though. ;)

[Mintexmemory]

Oh, sorry. So confusing when youre used to LHD cars... Looks more you are the driver though. ;)
No just checking for landmarks ahead as we came out of the hairpin, before head down on the map again.

[Mintexmemory]

Just to clarify for nafpaktos
'Since' means continuously from the 1920s to the current day. So UK hillclimbs are still a thriving form of motorsport