Rally Sweden 2014

[adr17]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?

These are new magnesium wheels that were designed last year as mads broke more rims than had hot dinners ,these are stronger , they are similar looking but if you get close you will see they are different , different offset , mads used them on gb and now they are using them on the " works " cars and Roberts .

[stefanvv]

about Hyundai retirements i dont see teething problems,i see driving errors.
Believe me, Neuville had no way to know there is hidden bedrock there in the snow

[KKS]

These are just child problems for Hyundai.
stone is hiding at snowbank doesn't look like child

[stefanvv]

Must watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yxuAp0aIW4

[dimviii]

about Hyundai retirements i dont see teething problems,i see driving errors.
Believe me, Neuville had no way to know there is hidden bedrock there in the snow
of course he can t know what is inside the snowbank,thats why you avoid them.Plenty of drivers passed from same corner.

[dimviii]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?

These are new magnesium wheels that were designed last year as mads broke more rims than had hot dinners ,these are stronger , they are similar looking but if you get close you will see they are different , different offset , mads used them on gb and now they are using them on the " works " cars and Roberts .
thanks for info,but isnt magnesium forbidden at wrc?

[bluuford]

Neuville retired twice for similar reason in 2013 (his trademark retirement). Monte and Portugal. He is cutting a bit more than others and when the wheel is open, then it is even more fragile.

[KKS]

Must watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yxuAp0aIW4
Another proof. At first pases stone was deep into snowbank, when Juho come - it's much more closer to the line.

I think there no car fault, and no fault by the driver. Bad luck..

[A.F.F.]

You wrote :
But do they mention what kind of parking? Road side parking or a special area made for parking?


It's sometimes a kind of courtyard, or an existing parking lot, or a flat meadow. And you have to pay 50 SEK. I think they would never dare to ask for 50 SEK for parking on a road side...

They dare, trust me..

I say one thing: Rally Finland ;)

Okay, two things. Alwas pay with 1 SEK coins. I always keep a bag of 10 cent/5 cent/1 cent coins in Finland. Then you tell the parking gods in vests that:
- It's 5 euro you can count it yourself
(PG): I believe you...

Then you at least know that they will do some work...

I must have been behind you in queue every year and every stage. Hey, thanks man.

[dimviii]

Must watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yxuAp0aIW4

stop the video at 1,31 and see the rock which is bigger than a basket ball at the side of the snowbank.Steering wheel turned left=more fragile at impacts.

[stefanvv]

about Hyundai retirements i dont see teething problems,i see driving errors.
Believe me, Neuville had no way to know there is hidden bedrock there in the snow
of course he can t know what is inside the snowbank,thats why you avoid them.Plenty of drivers passed from same corner.
Who said snowbank? it was on the inner side of the road

[stefanvv]

Nice comparison video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV0P7foIKpI

[stefanvv]

Must watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yxuAp0aIW4

stop the video at 1,31 and see the rock which is bigger than a basket ball at the side of the snowbank.Steering wheel turned left=more fragile at impacts.
I think he took the same line (and steering angle) as Meeke and Tidemand before him. Their cars just jumped a little hitting the stone beneath, but probably not the big one as it was covered with snow, they just revealed it from the snow. But yes, less snow on the inside, bigger impact, I don't think it was the steering angle the problem though, his wheels were almost straight when he hit it - bad luck or just weak suspension, who knows :confused:

[dimviii]

Who said snowbank? it was on the inner side of the road
watch again the video,the same stone touched from a ds3,a fiesta too,but touched slightly that didn t managed to create a failure.Hyundai when touched th stone was the only car that you can hear the ''bump'' crash noise.Big noise =bigger impact than fiesta /ds3.A little bit closer than others made the difference.

[stefanvv]

Who said snowbank? it was on the inner side of the road
watch again the video,the same stone touched from a ds3,a fiesta too,but touched slightly that didn t managed to create a failure.
I was talking about Neuville, he is not in this video, sorry

[dimviii]

:vader: :skull:
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1557436_627460243955773_819134949_n.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2014/02 ... r-2-suede/ (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2014/02/07/photos-jour-2-suede/)

[noel157]

Ogier off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7aNGRmlru4

[dimviii]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112458
WRC Sweden: Ostberg criticises Kubica after day two hold-up

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1231

[noel157]

Who said snowbank? it was on the inner side of the road
watch again the video,the same stone touched from a ds3,a fiesta too,but touched slightly that didn t managed to create a failure.Hyundai when touched th stone was the only car that you can hear the ''bump'' crash noise.Big noise =bigger impact than fiesta /ds3.A little bit closer than others made the difference.

Just about Stefan:

How I see it:

Meeke bounced over the rock, hence the height of the front of the car:

http://i.imgur.com/ZtpyYLO.jpg

The Fiesta was about half and half, sideways and slightly over the rock.

But Juho's front wheel glanced / hit the rock parallel, knocked the car to the side so the tie/steering rod broke and the wheel turned in.

As hitting rocks with cars go, yes, it was bad luck but maybe suspension needs to be stronger, like a tank as somebody said earlier.

[EightGear]

I'm actually quite curious to see how Al Rajhi would do in a WRC car... He's not the 'usual' Middle-Eastern tourist.

[noel157]

I'm actually quite curious to see how Al Rajhi would do in a WRC car... He's not the 'usual' Middle-Eastern tourist.

Yes, was impressed by him last season and he's getting better this year so far. Good co-driver too.

[Hasselhoax]

I must have been behind you in queue every year and every stage. Hey, thanks man.
Have we been to the same event? Haven't queued for a mudhole parking spot. Never... :rolleyes:

[stefanvv]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Schweden/Berichterstattung/2014/20140207/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140207-0454_v01.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Schweden/Berichterstattung/2014/20140207/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140207-0456.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Schweden/Berichterstattung/2014/20140207/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140207-0457.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Schweden/Berichterstattung/2014/20140207/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140207-0534.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Schweden/Berichterstattung/2014/20140207/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140207-0476.jpg

[makinen_fan]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?

These are new magnesium wheels that were designed last year as mads broke more rims than had hot dinners ,these are stronger , they are similar looking but if you get close you will see they are different , different offset , mads used them on gb and now they are using them on the " works " cars and Roberts .
thanks for info,but isnt magnesium forbidden at wrc?

That was my initial thought Dimitri that magnesium is forbidden but apparently not:

From S2000 regs:
Under no circumstances may the "rims / tyres" assembly exceed a width of 9" and a diameter of 650 mm. Rims must imperatively be made from cast material.
* For gravel rallies, only 6.5'' x 15'' or 7'' x 15'' rims are authorised, the material of the rims is free (provided that it is cast) and the minimum weight of a 6.5" x 15" or 7" x 15" rim is 8.6 kg. If specified in the Supplementary Regulations of the event (such as snow Rallies), the maximum dimension of the rims is 5.5'' x 16''.
* For asphalt rallies, only 8" x 18" rims are authorised, the material of the 8’’ x 18’’ rims is free (provided that it is cast) and the minimum weight of an 8’’ x 18’’ rim is 8.9 kg.

Although for the rest of car the following applies:
The use of titanium alloy, magnesium alloy, ceramics and composite material is prohibited except for parts mounted on the (series) model from which the VK-S2000-Rally extension is derived.
Glass fibre is authorised. Titanium alloy is permitted for quick release connectors of
the braking circuit.

[stefanvv]

Who said snowbank? it was on the inner side of the road
watch again the video,the same stone touched from a ds3,a fiesta too,but touched slightly that didn t managed to create a failure.Hyundai when touched th stone was the only car that you can hear the ''bump'' crash noise.Big noise =bigger impact than fiesta /ds3.A little bit closer than others made the difference.

Just about Stefan:

How I see it:

Meeke bounced over the rock, hence the height of the front of the car:

http://i.imgur.com/ZtpyYLO.jpg

The Fiesta was about half and half, sideways and slightly over the rock.

But Juho's front wheel glanced / hit the rock parallel, knocked the car to the side so the tie/steering rod broke and the wheel turned in.

As hitting rocks with cars go, yes, it was bad luck but maybe suspension needs to be stronger, like a tank as somebody said earlier.
Just watch Neuville's crash when it comes out on youtube. It amazes me much more than Hanninen's.

[dimviii]

That was my initial thought Dimitri that magnesium is forbidden but apparently not:

From S2000 regs:
Under no circumstances may the "rims / tyres" assembly exceed a width of 9" and a diameter of 650 mm. Rims must imperatively be made from cast material.
* For gravel rallies, only 6.5'' x 15'' or 7'' x 15'' rims are authorised, the material of the rims is free (provided that it is cast) and the minimum weight of a 6.5" x 15" or 7" x 15" rim is 8.6 kg. If specified in the Supplementary Regulations of the event (such as snow Rallies), the maximum dimension of the rims is 5.5'' x 16''.
* For asphalt rallies, only 8" x 18" rims are authorised, the material of the 8’’ x 18’’ rims is free (provided that it is cast) and the minimum weight of an 8’’ x 18’’ rim is 8.9 kg.

Although for the rest of car the following applies:
The use of titanium alloy, magnesium alloy, ceramics and composite material is prohibited except for parts mounted on the (series) model from which the VK-S2000-Rally extension is derived.
Glass fibre is authorised. Titanium alloy is permitted for quick release connectors of
the braking circuit.

thanks for clarifying mate ;)

[stefanvv]

I think I must have missed that today :D :
"[SS14] Mads Ostberg (Citroen) 11:47.3 "I just had a really close call with a formula 1 driver in the stage!""

[Sulland]

Strange that the TV program on Viasat doen not show any of the private cars at all. Not Hennning and not Tidemand pr anyone else.

Does not make it easier to find sponsors!

[GigiGalliNo1]

I'm actually quite curious to see how Al Rajhi would do in a WRC car... He's not the 'usual' Middle-Eastern tourist.

Yes, was impressed by him last season and he's getting better this year so far. Good co-driver too.

Very true, though he has other commitments in other rally sports/raids as well. Shame he can't or not even sure if he's doing the whole WRC2 year this year - but I'd like to see him win the title! Another year - and then possibly WRC? But certainly not a gentleman driver.

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!

Kubica completes SS17 in 8:07.2: "Very very difficult, v slippery...we were driving like going to supermarket because there was no grip..."

[makinen_fan]

Good morning to all! Wow Ogier! Its good that now we have an early benchmark for times :D

[jonkka]

Time for Henning?

[dimviii]

6,50,8

[Rallyper]

Ogier today, an ordinary human... MAybe virgin??

Good morning boys!!! :D

[jonkka]

Meeke is gonna lose 6th to Henning.

[satukata]

any link for better livesplits? wrc.com splits not working good enough

[satukata]

good MORNING. How many we are here? Say Hi to me :)

[Rallyper]

good MORNING. How many we are here? Say Hi to me :)
Hi

[wurc]

I think I must have missed that today :D :
"[SS14] Mads Ostberg (Citroen) 11:47.3 "I just had a really close call with a formula 1 driver in the stage!""

that wasn't too nice from his side, you should have a look at this onboard when ostberg was just couple of seconds behind kubica, screaming like a baby, with the second kubica's 'pit stop' there were bunch of polish fans trying to help and norwegians standing and just taking pictures..


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112458
WRC Sweden: Ostberg criticises Kubica after day two hold-up

these ostberg allegations that kubica knew that he was behind is just ridiculous, kubica moved after just couple of meters, not like last year meeke driving few kilometeres after novikonv
what's wrong with these norwegians, too less snow ? ;)

[jonkka]

Hi ya

[KKS]

oops, I oversleep first stage of the day....
morning guys

[satukata]

what problems tideman had? anybody who can understand swedish?

[dimviii]

Meeke is stopped in the stage

[KKS]

c'mon Mads! this 38 sec it possible for you! c'moon!

[dimviii]

Meeke is stopped in the stage
Tänak 10:47.8 passes Meeke on stage : "In some places it's like Monte...Meeke was blocking the road, stuck in a corner - just 1 spectator"

[Moriarty]

Meeke is moving

[dimviii]

moving again

[Rallyper]

what problems tideman had? anybody who can understand swedish?

Tidemand choose another reardiff before the rally and unless the other Fords. That diff he says, is good when surface is hard. Now, he says, the car is not stable, no grip, and he´s just depressed. They tried to change but it take to long time at service. Maybe they´ll try to change later today.

[Rallyper]

Mads said Meeke was off.

[KKS]

Problems for Andreas at laast split!!!!

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen arrives, car billowing steam (?)

[makinen_fan]

So no battle for 2-3 place is on! Just 20s between them

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen has a broken strut says excited reporter

next stage a long one 24,63km...

[KKS]

So no battle for 2-3 place is on! Just 20s between them
All question about can Mikkelsen push hard in next stages with that damage off car. And 19 sec is real for Mads.

[dimviii]

Latvala through in 10:34.8...on Mikkelsen: "I hope he will be able to carry on..."

[dimviii]

So no battle for 2-3 place is on! Just 20s between them
All question about can Mikkelsen push hard in next stages with that damage off car. And 19 sec is real for Mads.

dont know what kind of damage has.If broken strut is matter of retirement,and not pushing...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf8BaU4IYAAA8VO.jpg

[KKS]

So no battle for 2-3 place is on! Just 20s between them
All question about can Mikkelsen push hard in next stages with that damage off car. And 19 sec is real for Mads.

dont know what kind of damage has.If broken strut is matter of retirement,and not pushing...
He lost at last split 12 sec. Despite on first three only 7sec. It's definitely something wrong.

[satukata]

any live splits page? citroen have good one before? any have link?

[dimviii]

seems that he had a small off at snowbank,blocked the radiator,and engine worked at high temperature.At next one we will see how wealthy is his engine

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf8C7dYIYAAUiWR.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf8COeXIUAAd-vk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf8CwfKIQAAdBxn.jpg

[KKS]

Any pictures from Vargasen ? it snow or gravel stage?


any live splits page? citroen have good one before? any have link?
http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-re ... plit&car=1 (http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7279&idEpr=SS19&typf=split&car=1)

[makinen_fan]

So no battle for 2-3 place is on! Just 20s between them
All question about can Mikkelsen push hard in next stages with that damage off car. And 19 sec is real for Mads.

They were cleaning snow out of the air intake and Markulla told CC to calm down, supposedly nothing wrong with car. Possible they had a minor off

edit: Dim quicker as always! Lets hope his engine is still healthy, really blocked radiator there!

[KKS]

Maybe , maybe... but I think Mads cut from Andreas at Vargasen too

[makinen_fan]

So next stage will be live! At 10CET there are 30min highlights and 1030 CET starts the live action. This works for the moment (football on though now...):
http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/bt-s ... ive-stream (http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/bt-sport-2-live-stream)

[dimviii]

Mikkelsens engine seems ok.Fast at 1st split

[jonkka]

Mikko has no splits?

[jonkka]

Well, he's got one. Split 4.

[dimviii]

from previous stage Mikkelsen
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1004705_10152018232778952_1542903363_n.jpg

[Rallyper]

Reporter to Mads: "Was it good at Colins Crest?
Mads: Sure, I smelled the grills... :D

[KKS]

Reporter to Mads: "Was it good at Colins Crest?
Mads: Sure, I smelled the grills... :D
:D

[Rallyper]

Neuville? No splits.

No splits, but finished stage. Good time.

[makinen_fan]

Next stage delayed by 10min

[KKS]

Hmmm great time from Neuville

[wurc]

do somebody know why neuville & hanninen today with rally2 are starting after all wrc cars and not before like this system used to work last year ?

[KKS]

Protasov have off the road, no futher battle with Ahlin

[makinen_fan]

do somebody know why neuville & hanninen today with rally2 are starting after all wrc cars and not before like this system used to work last year ?

change of regs for this year. superrally crews start after P1,P2 cars

[noel157]

do somebody know why neuville & hanninen today with rally2 are starting after all wrc cars and not before like this system used to work last year ?

change of regs for this year. superrally crews start after P1,P2 cars

Thanks, was wondering too.

[Bartek]

Probably new record on Colin Crest made by Hanninen, he jumped 46 meters

[litifeta]

go Mads. I want to see many different drivers on the podium as possible this year.

[KKS]

go Mads. I want to see many different drivers on the podium as possible this year.
I hope Mads will able to fight for podiums not only in Sweden

[Negaiss]

This works for me http://cricfree.tv/bt-sport-2.php

maybe you should click BT Sport 2 on the left side if it doesn't work

[makinen_fan]

Not good for live TV, commentators dont know what is going on

[Micke_VOC]

Probably new record on Colin Crest made by Hanninen, he jumped 46 meters

=)
Old unofficial record was 40,8 (Mikko Hirvonen) i think...

Some fun facts, in 2004 when that was a local rally on gravel, Mikael Grumer with a Volvo 240 jumped around 37 m it says ...
http://www.ekasfoto.com/bilder/gronadalen04/grumer.jpg

[KKS]

any reason of delayed start ?

[litifeta]

so is there any live streaming at all. Those BT links don't work in AUS. I imagine they are replays of WRC TV?

[EightGear]

Troubles with the timing system apparently.

[KKS]

so is there any live streaming at all. Those BT links don't work in AUS. I imagine they are replays of WRC TV?
ACE stream and content ID - 933d93868434a39bb8ef19cae66a414cb4cf9415

[Micke_VOC]

Kubica off on SS20, all on live-tv from Helicopter view ...

And from Official Rally Sweden about Colins : https://www.facebook.com/OfficialRallySweden
"Juho Hänninen from Hyundai Motorsport takes the Colins's Crest Award with his 36 meter jump!

The list:
1. Juho Hänninen 36
2. Sebastien Ogier 35
3. Yazeed Al-Rahji 35
4. Ott Tänak 34
5. Valeriy Gorban 34
6. Pontus Tidemand 33
7. Henning Solberg 33
8. Jari-Matti Latvala 32
9. Michal Solowow 31
10. Mikko Hirvonen 31

[litifeta]

thanks. got awesome streaming now

[BleAivano]

Ogier was very close of hitting a snow bank and going off.

[dimviii]

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20140208/vv52f ... 43429.html (http://www.sportlemon.tv/20140208/vv52f5f2f46a5a02.88935649-743429.html)

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1604634_10152201723777071_754936717_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31/p480x480/1014865_591885534237677_449163309_o.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/o50f.png

[litifeta]

Mads kicking it

[EightGear]

Why aren't they showing the Hyundais!?

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2014/post-3165-0-04949600-1391856148.jpeg

[dimviii]

Now Ostberg 16,6 behind Mikkelsen


Kubi
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1897797_599461676769856_330089648_n.jpg

[COD]

Why aren't they showing the Hyundais!?
Yes, good point. And where is Neuville?

[KKS]

Good stage, technical section at the end shows who be fast. Henning not impress me and time rise, as split shows.

[dimviii]

Neuville 8,56,1 everything is ok.(at moment :D )

[wurc]

ogier almost went off at the same corner as kubica, if he was first, he would be off, starting first on this rally sucks, like with prokop yesterday and today's with kubica

[dimviii]

live stream from service
http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[BleAivano]

Hara 2 cancelled. Apparently it's because of the delay on Värmullsåsen 1 which mean that they
have to cancel Hara 2 to maintain the time schedule because tv is showing Värmullsåsen 2 live.

Next stage will be Torntorp 2.

[dimviii]

Hara 2 cancelled. Apparently it's because of the delay on Värmullsåsen 1 which mean that they
have to cancel Hara 2 to maintain the time schedule because tv is showing Värmullsåsen 2 live.

Next stage will be Torntorp 2.

Torntrop2 at 13.02 cet?

[BleAivano]

Torntrop2 at 13.02 cet?

Yep that is correct.

[dimviii]

tnx BleAivano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgF3RNOB884

[Eli]

let's hope they will all keep it on the road, a part some...good rally from most drivers.

[KKS]

Hara 2 cancelled. Apparently it's because of the delay on Värmullsåsen 1 which mean that they
have to cancel Hara 2 to maintain the time schedule because tv is showing Värmullsåsen 2 live.

Next stage will be Torntorp 2.
It's a present from orga to Mikkelsen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why aren't they showing the Hyundais!?

Live TV ran out of time due to the delayed start of SS20 and the Hyundai's were running after the leaders as Rally2 ..

[BleAivano]

Top 3 in the Historic class:

Pos --Car no -- Driver ------ ---Stage time ---- Diff prev -- Diff 1st
1. -- 143 ---- Petter Solberg ---- 1:12:32.7
2 . --140 ---- Arne Rådström --- 1:13:03.2 ------ +30.5 ------ +30.5
3. -- 125 ---- Mats Myrsell ---- 1:15:49.8 ------ +2:46.6 ------ +3:17.1

[PLuto]

Why aren't they showing the Hyundais!?

Live TV ran out of time due to the delayed start of SS20 and the Hyundai's were running after the leaders as Rally2 ..

Thats true but there were still time to show at least one Hyundai...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some nice shots of Craig Breen on his website: http://www.craigbreen.com/gallerySelect.php?&id=99

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/gallery/full_Fri-2014002772.jpg

[BleAivano]

Petter and Pernilla won the Historic class: https://twitter.com/RallySweden/statuse ... 5515269121 (https://twitter.com/RallySweden/statuses/432123435515269121)

[EightGear]

Why aren't they showing the Hyundais!?

Live TV ran out of time due to the delayed start of SS20 and the Hyundai's were running after the leaders as Rally2 ..


I know but they didn't even mention them and like Pluto said they could easily have shown at least 1 Hyundai.

After all they aren't putting all of the money into WRC for no reason.

[makinen_fan]

at least the privateers get some coverage here, in contrast with end of day reviews where they are not even mentioned. what i dont understand is why they dont interview everyone at the end of stage..

[BleAivano]

Imo Ogier will pass Henning.

[jonkka]

Imo Ogier will pass Henning.

Two stages to go and 20 seconds. It'll be a close one but I do not think he can do it.

[Rallyper]

Imo Ogier will pass Henning.

Two stages to go and 20 seconds. It'll be a close one but I do not think he can do it.

For sure it will be close... :bounce:

[KKS]

good time for Mads. C'mon!!!

[COD]

good time for Mads. C'mon!!!
Will he pass Mikkelsen? Interesting fight

[BleAivano]

The Battle of Norway might be very close as well.

[dimviii]

11,6 sec for 41km stages

[N.O.T]

very disappointed by Meeke today...

Kubica is a slower version of Novikov.

[jonkka]

11,6 sec for 41km stages

And just took off 5 secs over 20 kilometers.

[wurc]

Kubica is a slower version of Novikov.

and you just figured that out after one rally on snow, smartass ? :D

[jparker]

Juho just said that he's gaining "valuable" experience driving with studs on gravel :D

[dimviii]

11,6 sec for 41km stages

And just took off 5 secs over 20 kilometers.

i am sure that Mikkelsen can go faster.But i am not sure if he will stay inside the road.
Strange that Ogier dont push to catch Henning.Maybe he preferes more points at power stage,knowing that Latvala,Ostberg and Mikkelsen will reach last stage with worst tyres than him.Lets see..

[KKS]

good time for Mads. C'mon!!!
Will he pass Mikkelsen? Interesting fight
He requires faster 0.29s/km then Andreas. And diff at SS22 - 0.26s/km so very... very close!

[N.O.T]

no i figured that out after 3 rallies in WRC where he had more offs than days completed... plus all his antics during his ERC campaign.

He seems to be a very competitive guy, so when he tries to be as fast as proper rally drivers he fails.

[dimviii]

very valuable these seconds, Mads lost from Kubica exit.

[dimviii]

Al Rajhi stopped on the stage and may lose WRC2 lead...


edit
Al-Rajhi: "I spin, I am stuck" - and Ketomaa takes the WRC2 lead... by 1.1 seconds...Ketomaa: "That's great"

[BleAivano]

very valuable these seconds, Mads lost from Kubica exit.

Yes Österberg did loose lots of time due to Kubicas two off's yesterday,

[wurc]

no i figured that out after 3 rallies in WRC where he had more offs than days completed... plus all his antics during his ERC campaign.

He seems to be a very competitive guy, so when he tries to be as fast as proper rally drivers he fails.

tell me how many SS wins had novikov after 3 rallies ? how many times he was WRC2 champion ?
don't wanna even argue with you, you gotta be too young, probabbly started watching rallies last year, after graduating elementary school...ech

[N.O.T]

since when being WRC2 champion is any sign of being any good ?

[jonkka]

tell me how many SS wins had novikov after 3 rallies ?

He's got 9 WRC starts, this is his 10th.

[dimviii]

Report from @rallytravel says Ogier has jumped 41m over Colin"s Crest.... #hesflying....

Ogier -6,8 sec to henning at 2nd split

[jonkka]

Breen has no splits?

[dimviii]

Ogier 13.1 UP on Henning at 14.50kmOgier 13.1 UP on Henning at 14.50km

[jonkka]

Seems my prediction is not going to hold.

[KKS]

Henning couldn't hold him. already 17.1 lost at last split

[dimviii]

Henning 17.1 down to Ogier at final split, 5kms from stage end

[wurc]

since when being WRC2 champion is any sign of being any good ?

maybe because after he won it season ended and it had just started ? :) yep you gotta be damn too young



tell me how many SS wins had novikov after 3 rallies ?

He's got 9 WRC starts, this is his 10th.

GB 2013, MC 2014 and Sweden 2014, try to use your fingers with counting problems ;)

[jparker]

I think Kubica/Snowbanks combination works well, it keeps him closer to the road.
It didn't work for Prokop, unfortunately.

[jonkka]

GB 2013, MC 2014 and Sweden 2014, try to use your fingers with counting problems ;)

Also in 2013 were Portugal, Acropolis, Sardinia, Finland, Deutschland, Alsace and Catalunya. Makes 10.

[N.O.T]

i think he means rallies in WRC car...

Kubica and Novikov is and was nice addition to the sport... but with more entertaining value than proper rallying value

[jonkka]

Ogier passed Henning by mere 0,1 secs!

[jonkka]

i think he means rallies in WRC car...

I know but he did not [sic] say so. Besides, it's pointless to include only some of the rallies.

[dimviii]

SS23 8.20km split - Mikkelsen 2.9 DOWN on Østberg..

[dimviii]

Neuville stopped in the stage

[jonkka]

Where is Tanak?

[BleAivano]

13.18.3 for Östberg.

[wurc]

i think he means rallies in WRC car...

I know but he did not [sic] say so. Besides, it's pointless to include only some of the rallies.

well, you're right, it's pointless to compare drivers while one of them is driving a car with 50 hp more, peace

[dimviii]

Neuville is changing a puncture..

[jonkka]

well, you're right, it's pointless to compare drivers while one of them is driving a car with 50 hp more, peace

You mean that doesn't accumulate experience?

[BleAivano]

Mikkelsen faster the Österberg. Mikkelsen will be 2nd.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Besides Loeb and Ogier, has anyone else had a good recovery and come back into the top 8 or even top 3?

[Rallyper]

Tanak???

[BleAivano]

Besides Loeb and Ogier, has anyone else had a good recovery and come back into the top 8 or even top 3?

Both Hirvonen and Latavala have done it with Ford.
However that was during the times with the Rally leader starting first so hey had a more advantageous start position.

[N.O.T]

tanak is safe

[dimviii]

Tanak???

Tanakhas finished the stage.

[noel157]

Yep, just after talking to Donaldson.

Mikko going for it the PS he says.

[N.O.T]

It is very likely Latvala will lead the championship for the first time in his career after Sweden.

[jonkka]

Tanak has finished the stage.

Thank god, I feared Ogier would get again one position for free...

[N.O.T]

Tanak has finished the stage.

Thank god, I feared Ogier would get again one position for free...

nothing is free... in this sport.

[noel157]

Is PS live?

[dimviii]

Al Rajhi lost over a minute from Ketomaa.Maybe something must happened with Neuvilles tyre change looking at splits.

[makinen_fan]

Is PS live?

coverage begin in 30min

[dimviii]

from irally twitter
In WRC2, Al Rajhi may have rolled - he has lost a minute to Ketomaa

[jarauto]

It is very likely Latvala will lead the championship for the first time in his career after Sweden.
and VW guys get 1-2-3

[KKS]

And "only" 18.7 sec Kruuda from WRC2 win :)
And Protasov win a stage in WRC2

[noel157]

Is PS live?

coverage begin in 30min

Thanks M-F.

[BleAivano]

It is very likely Latvala will lead the championship for the first time in his career after Sweden.
and VW guys get 1-2-3

Östberg will be ahead of Mikkelsen in the championship if the current results stand.

[jonkka]

and VW guys get 1-2-3

Without PS points Mads will have 27 and Andreas will have 24. It is possible to get 1-2-3 if Andreas wins PS and Mads does not score at all. How likely is that?

[Karukera]

It is very likely Latvala will lead the championship for the first time in his career after Sweden.

Just a short distraction before the Alps road roller strikes back.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/q72/s720x720/1891121_654063274655109_731148503_n.jpg

[gzandar]

well, you're right, it's pointless to compare drivers while one of them is driving a car with 50 hp more, peace

You mean that doesn't accumulate experience?

Yeah but still his experience is much less than anybody else in WRC car. I think this year he will be out the road many many times and it will be nothing strange. If it won't better next year it will be a problem.

He come with no experience and win WRC2 title, and was able to win rallies with Evans isn't that impresive ? Wet gravel and changing conditions is most problem for Kubica and he must learn how to evaluate conditions. He say that only way for that to ride with good speed. First and second day, until crash, speed wasn't so bad, but still too fast for his experience.

He also wins Yanner this year in ERC also big achievement for driver with so little experience.

[N.O.T]

In this rally he was both slow and crashed a lot...not a good sign...

[PLuto]

Yeah but still his experience is much less than anybody else in WRC car. I think this year he will be out the road many many times and it will be nothing strange. If it won't better next year it will be a problem.

He come with no experience and win WRC2 title, and was able to win rallies with Evans isn't that impresive ? Wet gravel and changing conditions is most problem for Kubica and he must learn how to evaluate conditions. He say that only way for that to ride with good speed. First and second day, until crash, speed wasn't so bad, but still too fast for his experience.

He also wins Yanner this year in ERC also big achievement for driver with so little experience.

His easy winning in WRC2 last year shows quality of that championship. He was also trying ERC events and he has crashed almost on each event (mechanics saved him on Corse before crash). This year winning on Janner was really very lucky, he was going in very high rhythm over the risk. Without really big luck he cannot reach the finish on Janner...

[makinen_fan]

In this rally he was both slow and crashed a lot...not a good sign...

I agree, I was expecting slightly better from him, at least being a bit quicker. Anyway his real pace as a rally driver will be shown in the next couple of gravel rallies.

[noel157]

Whatever about Kubica he has speed and lots of it and for me that makes him a great addition to the championship.

100 times better than the last F1 guy to go rallying.

[gzandar]

Yeah but still his experience is much less than anybody else in WRC car. I think this year he will be out the road many many times and it will be nothing strange. If it won't better next year it will be a problem.

He come with no experience and win WRC2 title, and was able to win rallies with Evans isn't that impresive ? Wet gravel and changing conditions is most problem for Kubica and he must learn how to evaluate conditions. He say that only way for that to ride with good speed. First and second day, until crash, speed wasn't so bad, but still too fast for his experience.

He also wins Yanner this year in ERC also big achievement for driver with so little experience.

His easy winning in WRC2 last year shows quality of that championship. He was also trying ERC events and he has crashed almost on each event (mechanics saved him on Corse before crash). This year winning on Janner was really very lucky, he was going in very high rhythm over the risk. Without really big luck he cannot reach the finish on Janner...

Yeah, but You can say the same about Ogiers Monte :) in Kubica's Janner context.

I just say that he should be evaluated in the middle of the season, after some rally with he compete already.

I also think that he should be faster in Sweden, but he wasn't. Some crashes were predictable. Other side before first off, he was faster than Evans slower than Meeke it was resonable pace.

[KKS]

He couldn't be fast on surface he never tried

[Nornbugger]

Besides Loeb and Ogier, has anyone else had a good recovery and come back into the top 8 or even top 3?


when a top driver loses 4 or 5 mins early in an event it is normal that they will make up many placings afterwards, he lost time but he and his car are well, what else do people expect?

[PLuto]

Yeah, but You can say the same about Ogiers Monte :) in Kubica's Janner context.

I just say that he should be evaluated in the middle of the season, after some rally with he compete already.

I also think that he should be faster in Sweden, but he wasn't. Some crashes were predictable.

It is not completely the same. Ogier was lucky in some moments, that VW is so strong car. Robest was on Janner close to crash almost on every second corner. This is the biggest difference between both drivers - Ogier knows what he is doing and has the car mostly under control. Kubica is going on the limit and is making lot of mistakes.

[Karukera]

Whatever about Kubica he has speed and lots of it and for me that makes him a great addition to the championship. 100 times better than the last F1 guy to go rallying.

In all fairness, that F1 guy scored 25pts in his 1st year (2010), then 34 in his 2nd year (2011) with much less rally experience than Kubica.

[noel157]

Live broadcast now started.

[Negaiss]

POWERSTAGE HERE - http://cricfree.tv/bt-sport-2.php

[noel157]

Whatever about Kubica he has speed and lots of it and for me that makes him a great addition to the championship. 100 times better than the last F1 guy to go rallying.

In all fairness, that F1 guy scored 25pts in his 1st year (2010), then 34 in his 2nd year (2011) with much less rally experience than Kubica.

Matt Wilson scored 74 and 63 points in those years.................

[gzandar]

Whatever about Kubica he has speed and lots of it and for me that makes him a great addition to the championship. 100 times better than the last F1 guy to go rallying.

In all fairness, that F1 guy scored 25pts in his 1st year (2010), then 34 in his 2nd year (2011) with much less rally experience than Kubica.

Kubica scored 18 in WRC2 car in first year. 2014 started not finish.

Anyway i just say he need time for learning. Monte and Sweden were disappointing but it's too early to say that he is next Novikov who is also slower.

[wurc]

Yeah, but You can say the same about Ogiers Monte :) in Kubica's Janner context.

I just say that he should be evaluated in the middle of the season, after some rally with he compete already.

I also think that he should be faster in Sweden, but he wasn't. Some crashes were predictable.

It is not completely the same. Ogier was lucky in some moments, that VW is so strong car. Robest was on Janner close to crash almost on every second corner. This is the biggest difference between both drivers - Ogier knows what he is doing and has the car mostly under control. Kubica is going on the limit and is making lot of mistakes.

kubica was this year only once on the limit, on the last stage of janner rally, sweden is just lack of experience, i must disagree with that statement that in janner he was close to crash every second corner :D far from it, as I said, he pushed only on the last stage, and you could see that on onboard, he was a bit lucky, but there's a saying that the better one has more luck, ogier is far more experience and definitely currently the best driver, last yer first erc rallyes was just a training, this year in the 2nd seasons' phase, in germany, france and spain, I think ogier would be the only one who we will be able to fight on tarmac with kubica, he already proved that in MC, tarmac is his surface, on on others he's learing damn fast.

[Karukera]

Whatever about Kubica he has speed and lots of it and for me that makes him a great addition to the championship. 100 times better than the last F1 guy to go rallying.

In all fairness, that F1 guy scored 25pts in his 1st year (2010), then 34 in his 2nd year (2011) with much less rally experience than Kubica.

Matt Wilson scored 74 and 63 points in those years.................

Lol, good one Noel. Matt has been rallying forever before his 1st full season in 2007 when he scored... 11pts, then 15 in 2008, 28 in 2009. Means it took Wilson 3 full years with a lot more feedback for the same achievement the F1 guy managed in his 1st attempt.

[BleAivano]

Kubica hit a snowbank again but managed to get back onto the road.

[noel157]

Almost off again!!

[KKS]

why Ogier 2nd on the road?

[PLuto]

Yeah, but You can say the same about Ogiers Monte :) in Kubica's Janner context.

I just say that he should be evaluated in the middle of the season, after some rally with he compete already.

I also think that he should be faster in Sweden, but he wasn't. Some crashes were predictable.

It is not completely the same. Ogier was lucky in some moments, that VW is so strong car. Robest was on Janner close to crash almost on every second corner. This is the biggest difference between both drivers - Ogier knows what he is doing and has the car mostly under control. Kubica is going on the limit and is making lot of mistakes.

kubica was this year only once on the limit, on the last stage of janner rally, sweden is just lack of experience, i must disagree with that statement that in janner he was close to crash every second corner :D far from it, as I said, he pushed only on the last stage, and you could see that on onboard, he was a bit lucky, but there's a saying that the better one has more luck, ogier is far more experience and definitely currently the best driver, last yer first erc rallyes was just a training, this year in the 2nd seasons' phase, in germany, france and spain, I think ogier would be the only one who we will be able to fight on tarmac with kubica, he already proved that in MC, tarmac is his surface, on on others he's learing damn fast.

Have you seen pictures and videos on Janner? He was close to crash on lot of places. And he was pushing almost whole the rally, last stage was over also his over limit...

P.S. He has just almost crashed again in Sweden...

[jonkka]

why Ogier 2nd on the road?

I wonder about that too.

[noel157]

Proper way to cross the line for Ogier!!

[BleAivano]

Spin/crash for Evans.

[Micke_VOC]

Really crappy Live-coverage now, please show cars instead of People...
And why follow Kubica 1 min 30 s when he going so slow in the end...

[makinen_fan]

why this change of running order?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hope Evans gets going again ..

[noel157]

why this change of running order?


For TV I imagine.

[BleAivano]

Tidemand almost went off backwards in the final curve.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yessss Meeke !!

[car]

Evans rolled according to Henning....

[noel157]

Kubica: "It has been very difficult...yesterday stupid mistake...I'm driving like my grandmother going to the supermarket..."

[BleAivano]

Evans rolled according to Henning....

So unnecessary. He was in ano man's land and should have backed off to bring the car home.

[wurc]

Really crappy Live-coverage now, please show cars instead of People...
And why follow Kubica 1 min 30 s when he going so slow in the end...

I would say why a camera is following volkswagens and especially ogier for 50% of the coverage ? chill out man,
I wonder what are the reasons behind this not nice comments towards kubica ? let's take last year's vice champion, yesterday broke suspension, today's puncture etc didn't finish MC 4 years in a row,
it's a rally everything can happen especially when you don't have experience

[BleAivano]

8.39.7 for Hirvonen.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Niiice Mikoooo :)

[jonkka]

8.39.7 for Hirvonen.

Ouch. No points for Meeke then, maybe even Ogi will miss out totally.

[BleAivano]

8.36.8 for Östberg.

[BleAivano]

8.44.7 for Mikkelsen.

[BleAivano]

8.37.9 for Latavala.

[jonkka]

No points for Ogier.

[Micke_VOC]

Really crappy Live-coverage now, please show cars instead of People...
And why follow Kubica 1 min 30 s when he going so slow in the end...

I would say why a camera is following volkswagens and especially ogier for 50% of the coverage ? chill out man,
I wonder what are the reasons behind this not nice comments towards kubica ? let's take last year's vice champion, yesterday broke suspension, today's puncture etc didn't finish MC 4 years in a row,
it's a rally everything can happen especially when you don't have experience

Is not anything against Kubica, but instead the should onboard from Ogier or Mekke or somebody else... Or find were Evans are off with the Heli. Instead for Kubica when i safeing thru the end...

[mm1]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

[RS]

Where is Breen?

Congratulations to Latvala. He seemsd quite relaxed and happy now, but again I think Ogier was the faster driver here.

Great job by Mikelssen; when he said before the rally he would go for a podium I don't think many of us believed him but he did it, and on pace too.

Disappointing again from Mikko. He was better than on Monte (couldn't have been worse really) but 2m26.9s off the win here on what would normally be one of his most competitive rallies.

Ostberg solid job, but I think he probably expected to do a little better here.

[RS]

No points for Ogier.

How so?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Just awesome! Latvala, hyvä Suomi Finland perkele!

[bluuford]

No points for Ogier.

How so?

I quess he meant no powerstage points.. as it was expected yesterday already.

[N.O.T]

Very nice win by Latvala... new leader in the championship... lets see how VW will handle this and how Latvala will handle rest of the season.

[bluuford]

Now fight for the WRC2.. it is going to be close!

[jonkka]

How so?

Yes, I meant PS points only.

[Karukera]

Just awesome! Latvala, hyvä Suomi Finland perkele!

Hyvä JML ! Pkl, vitt#@$%€**... :D

[wurc]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

just imagine that this is last SS and there's a special mechanism that shows split times to the other driver, and imagine that mikkelsen could choose mads 'screaming like a baby if someone is blocking me for a moment' ostberg split times to control his own pace to safely reach the end ? :) or is it out of your imagination ? ;)

[A FONDO]

Latvala... new leader in the championship... lets see how VW will handle this
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Kalm]

Kruuda takes 21 sec from Ketomaa at the final stage and wins WRC2 !!

[MikeD]

Very nice win by Latvala... new leader in the championship... lets see how VW will handle this and how Latvala will handle rest of the season.

This snow result won't change anything, and for the rest of the season we will see Ogier dominate again and JML crumple under pressure as he always does....

On a more sad note I thing VW might actually win all the rounds this year :(

Great result by Mikkelsen though. I hope he can keep developing and score more podiums...

[HarriK]

Go Kruuda! Go Printsport Racing!
Kruuda's car is ex-Lappi FRC car.

[Sulland]

Proud to be Norwegian today, 2, 3 and 7th!
Congratulation to all 3 drivers and Codrivers.

[mm1]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

just imagine that this is last SS and there's a special mechanism that shows split times to the other driver, and imagine that mikkelsen could choose mads 'screaming like a baby if someone is blocking me for a moment' ostberg split times to control his own pace to safely reach the end ? :) or is it out of your imagination ? ;)
Have seen all your other posts on this thread, so don't see a reason to argue with you.

[N.O.T]

Very nice win by Latvala... new leader in the championship... lets see how VW will handle this and how Latvala will handle rest of the season.

Yes quite likely. I think Latvalas performance in Mexico will show a lot if he fails once more then he will be Ogiers lap dog... but Ogier is no Loeb when it comes to consistency only when it comes to speed... so it will be far more exciting.

The main thing is that as expected VW has no rival this year so i think they will let them be involved in a dog fight...which is good for us.

And if Latvala delivers a challenge he might bring some finish fans back from their caves and then i can play with them once more....ooooh the nostalgia.

[Karukera]

Proud to be Norwegian today, 2, 3 and 7th!
Congratulation to all 3 drivers and Codrivers.

Yeah a decent day for you. And add to Sweden Rally a handful of medals grabbed in Sotchi.

[Moriarty]

What is standing in championship?

[WUff1]

+:

Mikkelsen
Citroen (stronger this year than expected)
Tänak
Solberg
Tidemand
Breen
Kruuda

-:

Hyundai
Kubica (I´m worrying if he´s really able to cope in WRC)

bad luck:
Evans
Prokop (second retirement in a row)
Grondal

[jparker]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

Well, I'm not sure who to blame for that, but anyway Mads did't slow much the second time.
Passing car on the road with spectators around it with such a high speed is plain stupid.
Somehow I see this Norwegian in different way now.

[Karukera]

What is standing in championship?

Latvala 40pts
Ogier 35
Ostberg 30
Mikkelsen 24
Bouffier 18
Meeke 17
...

[makinen_fan]

Overall has been an interesting event, some new/returning names and an unusual leaderboard!

Positives:
Great result for Jari Matti, he seemed lost in first day but finally fought back won it. Hope this boost his confidence for rest of the season
Andreas is fast, I hope he will mix with the big boys this year
Tanak was a big surprise
Mads also is quite ok, found it easily after the first and was on the pace after first day but too late for 1st/2nd
Ogier does mistakes and he fully accepts the blame!! Really liked his attitude here
Henning's end of stage interviews

Negatives:
Kubica's many errors. I was not expecting much more with pace but why so many errors????
Mikko's pace should have been better
Tidemand, have shown nothing
Hyundais. I believe suspension parts are way too weak
Yazeed throwing away RC2 victory
TV coverage, just not working for me. Prefer listening to radio, gives a better vibe of the event

[BleAivano]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

just imagine that this is last SS and there's a special mechanism that shows split times to the other driver, and imagine that mikkelsen could choose mads 'screaming like a baby if someone is blocking me for a moment' ostberg split times to control his own pace to safely reach the end ? :) or is it out of your imagination ? ;)

Östberg lost allot of time yesterday when he was blocked by Kubica. Rather then having a clean line
he had to drive behind Kubica for several KM which meant that he had to drive slower then
he normally would.



Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

Well, I'm not sure who to blame for that, but anyway Mads did't slow much the second time.
Passing car on the road with spectators around it with such a high speed is plain stupid.
Somehow I see this Norwegian in different way now.

How was Mads supposed to know that Kubica's car was blocking the road and id he had slow down
he woud have lost allot of more time. So I think it's fair to say that Kubica's mistakes cost
Österberg allot of time and possible the 2nd place.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Glad to see JML win and taking advantage of Ogier's mistake. Hope it gives him the confidence to fight for the title.

Also finally a result from Mikkelsen, showing some real speed and agression, at least in the first 2 days.

Ostberg deserves a lot of praise too, getting close to 2nd place and winning the PS while still only on his 2nd event in the DS3.

Disappointing final day for the Brits but a great learning experience for both... and well done to Breen actually beating both of them on his WRC car debut !!

[A.F.F.]

Congrats Latvala proving that you must finish the rally for win. But, we all know speedwise Ogier was miles ahead him on his favourite rally. So, no boost for his selfconfidence I'm afraid. It is so very rewarding for an athlete to know he is best of the rest :mark:

What is more interesting, is that has Ogier's selfconfidence reached the top, finally. Shall he make mistakes more or must he slow the speed a bit in the future?

[Juha_Koo]

Good job by Andreas. I was waiting for this rally to see what he can do and he positively surprised me a bit. Östberg also seems to have quite good boogie in Citroen, lets wait for the gravel rallies... Tidemand was much slower compared to last year, a small disappointment. Evans delivered less than I expected as did Hänninen. Tänak did phenominal job, especially on first day.

[jparker]

Mads might have lost the 2nd place because of the F1 driver.

Well, I'm not sure who to blame for that, but anyway Mads did't slow much the second time.
Passing car on the road with spectators around it with such a high speed is plain stupid.
Somehow I see this Norwegian in different way now.


How was Mads supposed to know that Kubica's car was blocking the road and id he had slow down
he woud have lost allot of more time. So I think it's fair to say that Kubica's mistakes cost
Österberg allot of time and possible the 2nd place.

You kidding right? When it comes to safety, nothing else matters. Mads had the chance to slow down, and he didn't, and by doing this he almost killed a spectator. No excuses for him in this case.

[sindroms]

What a day for Norwegians! 2 podiums in Sweden WRC, 4 podiums in Winter Olympics, including gold for Ole The Great and Marit Bjørgen.
Congrats! :)

[A.F.F.]

I was expecting more from Tidemand too. Suprisingly, Tanäk was the one delivered :oops:

[PLuto]

I was expecting more from Tidemand too. Suprisingly, Tanäk was the one delivered :oops:

I must say I was negatively surprised, that Tidemand was all the time slower than Henning...

[Brother John]

Congrats to Latvala, Mikkelse, Ostberg and all drivers in the top 10 of Rally Sweden 2014, :beer:

[Rallyper]

I can understand your disappointment for Tidemand. But if you were just a bit more professional in your judgements you wouldn´t say that.
Many things played a role. He had much testing in totally different conditions in an other car. He then wanted same setup in the car M-Sport delivered and got it, but the very different conditions in RS made his setup not working at all. And everyone driving a rallycar knows what it means when you don´t trust the performance of the car.
Thus that he´d done a clean run and fighted on. Last leg today he got a rear diff which he might should have had all weekend and the times where far better.
Remmber this was his second rally in a WRC car.
As said he didn´t do any mistakes and being 7th in this competition and very difficult rally is something Tidemand did a good job.