Question to think about, another road-course to the Sprint Cup Schedule?

[R.Lee]

Listening to the different racing programs, it seems that there are something like 70% of NASCAR fans that want to add another road-race to the Sprint Cup schedule, many claiming that it should be added to the chase. I do not like the "chase", would rather see a more conventional run for the championship. I'm also in the minority, as IMO, stock cars are oval track machines and belong on ovals. If I had my say, Rockingham would be brought back onto the schedule before another road-course. Memphis Motorsports Park, a very good 3/4 mile oval would be brought onto the schedule before another road-course was added! What I do not want to see and what I am afraid will happen is, if they ever go through with this, we will lose an oval or a race at an oval. That, I DO NOT want to see. NASCAR has said that if a race is added at a different track, than those currently are on the schedule, a track will have to be dropped altogether or a current track will have to give up one of their dates! We lost one of our two races here in Atlanta because of this policy, as SMI moved it's date to Kentucky! :mad: An uneasy peace has been kept between ISC and SMI by them only being able to move dates from tracks that they own. So my guess is that if this were to happen, most likely it would be an ISC track that would have to give up a date or be removed from the schedule altogether. I doubt either Watkins Glen or Sonoma would be moved from their present dates. Each track pretty much utilizes the best date for their current events. My guess is that if this were to occur, the road-course most likely to be added to the schedule would be Road Atlanta. It is now an ISC owned track. Do not know which oval would lose one of it's dates or it's sole date. There are only three tracks on the schedule that are not alligned with either ISC or SMI, Pocono, Dover and indianapolis. Don't see them losing their dates. NASCAR would not likely give another race to SMI and to my knowledge, SMI does not own another road-course other than Sonoma anyway. Road-Atlanta would be the most obvious and most logical choice, IMO. It would put me in an ironic position. I do not like road-racing, but I most likely would go to it, because I live only 8 miles from Road Atlanta. It would also kind of make up for the lost of the second Atlanta race as well. So, am I right? Would it be Road Atlanta? If not, what road-course would it be and why?

[joeyz_f1]

Drop the Chase completely, add Mosport and Road America to the Sprint Cup.

[joeyz_f1]

1 - Daytona 500, Daytona
2 - Subway Fresh Fit 500, Phoenix
3 - Auto Club 400, Fontana
4 - Bristol 500, Bristol
5 - Martinsville 500, Martinsville
6 - STP 400, Kansas
7 - NASCAR Grand Prix of Canada, Mosport
8 - Toyota 400, Richmond
9 - Southern 500, Darlington
10 - Charlotte World 600, Charlotte
11 - Fedex 400 Benefiting Autism Speaks, Dover
12 - Pocono 400, Pocono
13 - Heluva Good NASCAR at The Glen, Watkins Glen
14 - Quicken Loans 400, Michigan
15 - Sonoma Challenge, Sonoma
16 - Firecracker 400, Daytona
17 - Brickyard 400, Indianapolis
18 - Pennsylvania 400, Pocono
19 - Finger Lakes NASCAR at The Glen, Watkins Glen
20 - Pure Michigan 400, Michigan
21 - Iowa 400, Iowa
22 - GEICO 400, Chicagoland
23 - Atlanta 500, Atlanta
24 - Richmond 400, Richmond
25 - New England 300, New Hampshire
26 - Kansas 400, Kansas
27 - NASCAR Road America, Road America
28 - Bank of America 500, Charlotte
29 - Talladega 500, Talladega
30 - Goody's 500, Martinsville

[R.Lee]

My Revised NASCAR Sprint Cup Schedule

Sunday - Daytona International Speedway
qualifying for the pole and outside front row for Daytona 500, Daytona 500 qualifying

Thursday - Daytona International Speedway,
Twin qualifying races for positions 3 through 43, for the Daytona 500, Daytona 500 qualifying races


Sunday - Daytona International Speedway
Daytona 500, Race 1

Sunday - Phoenix International Raceway
Subway Fresh Fit 400, Race 2

Sunday - Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Kobalt Tools 400, Race 3

Sunday - Bristol Motor Speedway
Food City 500, Race 4

Sunday - Auto Club Speedway
Auto Club 400, Race 5

Sunday - Easter, Weekend Off

Sunday - Martinsville Speedway
STP Gas Booster 500, Race 6

Saturday night - Texas Motor Speedway
NRA 500, Race 7

Sunday - Kansas Speedway
STP 400, Race 8

Sunday - Richmond International Raceway
Toyota Owners 400, Race 9

Sunday - Talladega Superspeedway
Aaron's 499, Race 10

Saturday night - Atlanta Motor Speedway
Advocare 500, Race 11

Weekend Off

Sunday night - Charlotte Motor Speedway (Memorial Day Weekend)
Coca-Cola 600, Race 12

Sunday - Dover International Speedway
FedEx 400 benefiting Autism Speaks, Race 13

Sunday - Pocono Raceway
Party in the Poconos 400, Race 14

Sunday - Michigan International Speedway
Quicken Loans 400, Race 15

Sunday - Rockingham Speedway
Carolina Toyota Dealers 400, Race 16

Saturday night - Kentucky Speedway
Quaker State 400, Race 17

Saturday night - Daytona International Speedway (4th of July Weekend)
Firecracker 400 presented by Coke Zero, Race 18

Sunday - New Hampshire Motor Speedway
Camping World RV Sales 300, Race 19

Weekend Off

Sunday - Memphis Motorsports Park
Crown Royal Presents the Samuel Deeds 400, Race 20

Sunday - Pocono Raceway
GoBowling.com 400, Race 21

Sunday - Nashville Superspeedway
Cheez-It 400, Race 22

Sunday - Michigan International Speedway
Pure Michigan 400, Race 23

Saturday night - Bristol Motor Speedway
Bristol, TN IRWIN Tools Night Race 500, Race 24

Sunday - Darlington International Speedway (Labor Day Weekend)
Southern 500 presented by Bojangles, Race 25

Saturday night - Richmond International Raceway
Federated Auto Parts 400, Race 26

Sunday - Chicagoland Speedway
Joliet, IL Geico 400, Race 27

Sunday - Atlanta Motor Speedway
Sylvania 500, Race 28

Sunday - Dover International Speedway
AAA 400, Race 29

Weekend Off

Sunday - Charlotte Motor Speedway
Bank of America 500, Race 30

Sunday - Talladega Superspeedway
Camping World RV Sales 500, Race 31

Sunday - Martinsville Speedway
Goody's Headache Relief Shot 500, Race 32

Sunday - Texas Motor Speedway
AAA Texas 500, Race 33

Sunday - Phoenix International Raceway
AdvoCare 400, Race 34

Sunday - Homestead-Miami Speedway
Ford 400, Race 35

[call_me_andrew]

I figured Miller Motorsports Park (perimiter course) would be the best choice because the closest Cup race to there is Las Vegas (400 miles away).

(Yes Portland is about 700 miles from Sonoma, but lacks garages).

Remember that NASCAR has determined track owners own the rights to Cup races; therefore, NASCAR cannot take races away by force.

[R.Lee]

Drop the Chase completely
I doubt that you will get more than just a very few protests about this. I DO NOT like or agree with the "chase", have not ever, don't now and will not ever agree with it! In the "Schedule" thread that you started, I left out the "chase" completely! At least we fully agree on one point! :up:

[Corvettian]

...stock cars are oval track machines and belong on ovals.
That's exactly what I think. One of the great parts of the NASCAR spectacle is the fact that they run on ovals, whether running nose-to-tail on the super speedways, or banging fenders on the half-mile short ovals.

[Corvettian]

... add Mosport and Road America to the Sprint Cup.
Having said that, I can imagine Sprint Cup races at these two circuits! :up:

[R.Lee]

My Revised NASCAR Sprint Cup Schedule

Sunday - Daytona International Speedway
qualifying for the pole and outside front row for Daytona 500, Daytona 500 qualifying

Thursday - Daytona International Speedway,
Twin qualifying races for positions 3 through 43, for the Daytona 500, Daytona 500 qualifying races


Sunday - Daytona International Speedway
Daytona 500, Race 1

Sunday - Phoenix International Raceway
Subway Fresh Fit 400, Race 2

Sunday - Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Kobalt Tools 400, Race 3

Sunday - Bristol Motor Speedway
Food City 500, Race 4

Sunday - Auto Club Speedway
Auto Club 400, Race 5

Sunday - Easter, Weekend Off

Sunday - Martinsville Speedway
STP Gas Booster 500, Race 6

Saturday night - Texas Motor Speedway
NRA 500, Race 7

Sunday - Kansas Speedway
STP 400, Race 8

Sunday - Richmond International Raceway
Toyota Owners 400, Race 9

Sunday - Talladega Superspeedway
Aaron's 499, Race 10

Saturday night - Atlanta Motor Speedway
Advocare 500, Race 11

Weekend Off

Sunday night - Charlotte Motor Speedway (Memorial Day Weekend)
Coca-Cola 600, Race 12

Sunday - Dover International Speedway
FedEx 400 benefiting Autism Speaks, Race 13

Sunday - Pocono Raceway
Party in the Poconos 400, Race 14

Sunday - Michigan International Speedway
Quicken Loans 400, Race 15

Sunday - Rockingham Speedway
Carolina Toyota Dealers 400, Race 16

Saturday night - Kentucky Speedway
Quaker State 400, Race 17

Saturday night - Daytona International Speedway (4th of July Weekend)
Firecracker 400 presented by Coke Zero, Race 18

Sunday - New Hampshire Motor Speedway
Camping World RV Sales 300, Race 19

Weekend Off

Sunday - Memphis Motorsports Park
Crown Royal Presents the Samuel Deeds 400, Race 20

Sunday - Pocono Raceway
GoBowling.com 400, Race 21

Sunday - Nashville Superspeedway
Cheez-It 400, Race 22

Sunday - Michigan International Speedway
Pure Michigan 400, Race 23

Saturday night - Bristol Motor Speedway
Bristol, TN IRWIN Tools Night Race 500, Race 24

Sunday - Darlington International Speedway (Labor Day Weekend)
Southern 500 presented by Bojangles, Race 25

Saturday night - Richmond International Raceway
Federated Auto Parts 400, Race 26

Sunday - Chicagoland Speedway
Joliet, IL Geico 400, Race 27

Sunday - Atlanta Motor Speedway
Sylvania 500, Race 28

Sunday - Dover International Speedway
AAA 400, Race 29

Weekend Off

Sunday - Charlotte Motor Speedway
Bank of America 500, Race 30

Sunday - Talladega Superspeedway
Camping World RV Sales 500, Race 31

Sunday - Martinsville Speedway
Goody's Headache Relief Shot 500, Race 32

Sunday - Texas Motor Speedway
AAA Texas 500, Race 33

Sunday - Phoenix International Raceway
AdvoCare 400, Race 34

Sunday - Homestead-Miami Speedway
Ford 400, Race 35
oops, missed adding Iowa track, in the schedule. :uhoh: Replace the final weekend off, the one between Dover and Charlotte, in my schedule above, with Iowa Speedway. 400 laps, Iowa Corn Growers 400

Should make a good addition to the schedule. :up:

Also, forgot to mention, NO CHASE!

[slorydn1]

That's not a bad looking schedule. We once had a thread here where we had our fantasy schedule, I did one that added a bunch of road courses and some of the "nationwide only" tracks to the cup schedule at the expense of doing away with most of the second dates. When I get a chance later I may dig it back up (although it probably needs to be redone, as it includes some now defunct tracks like Gateway and Nashville) :p :


Oh and ANY schedule that doesn't include the farce that is the Chase is fine by me :up:

[slorydn1]

I went ahead and merged the two threads together because although the basic topic was different between the two, they were going to head down the same road anyway :D


Oh and here is the link to the previous thread on this general subject:

http://www.motorsportforums.com/nascar/138990-your-future-nascar-sprint-cup-schedule.html


As you can tell, its quite old, but still geremane to the topic at hand.

[Corvettian]

Has anybody mentioned yet that there shouldn't be any Chase? :laugh:

[tstran17_88]

This was a post I made last year about Road America getting a Cup date:

"I like the idea of Road America as well (since it's only a 90 minute drive for me), but IMO, I don't think it could handle a Cup race yet.

No garages and no structured seating areas like Watkins Glen, but those are easily remedied. I think they have to shorten the course as well. Watching the sports cars race there is awesome, especially since the Rolex Series started running up there but the Nationwide races have been a bit long and boring, especially last year's. The only thing is where to shorten it? There are a lot of hills.

They would also have to put a "bus stop" on the front stretch, as evidence in the Rolex race last year when the Dempsey car went flying over the fence in turn 1.

For the non-campers, I'm thinking there may be enough hotel space since the track isn't too far from Milwaukee, Green Bay and the Fox Valley. Not sure though. But the roads getting in and out of the track would need major improving."

[Sparky1329]

I despise the stupid "Chase" and always have. Since we're apparently stuck with it I'd like to see a road course race added to that ten race lineup. The "where" part is the problem. Lime Rock is a nice track but I'm not sure that it could handle a Cup race. If it could I'd put that in the regular schedule and put Sonoma in the Chase. That would really shake things up.

[tstran17_88]

I wouldn't care if they added a road course or not to the chase...but would love to see them swap September Richmond and Chicagoland. It would be one less 1 1/2 mile "D" in the chase.

The only reason Chicagoland was moved from July to the chase was to prop up attendance. Same reason they dropped the "no cooler" rule, "no carry-in of food" rule and they don't force fans to buy season tickets anymore.

[tstran17_88]

oops, missed adding Iowa track, in the schedule. :uhoh: Replace the final weekend off, the one between Dover and Charlotte, in my schedule above, with Iowa Speedway. 400 laps, Iowa Corn Growers 400 In my mind that may be a tough sell to the powers that be...unless someone like a SMI buys it and moves a different race to it.

Granted it is in a great loacation, just off of I-80. I passed by it on my way to Kansas Speedway last fall, but there in lies the problem. I think it's way too close to Kansas and Chicagoland, which have three Cup dates already.