[ERC] Barum Czech Rally ZlÃ*n

[PLuto]

I think it is time to start also this thread, we are almost 2 months before the rally.

[PLuto]

ERC Barum Rally RG1: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2013/pdf/bcrz2013-rg1gb.pdf

No stage names or lengths yet. Last stage on Saturday starts rather late. Perhaps it's first a loop of three repeated, then one stage run twice in the evening.

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[PLuto]

Supplementary regulations were published - Barum Czech Rally Zlín (30.8. - 1.9.2013) (http://www.barum.rally.cz/index.php?lng=en)

[Mirek]

Maybe it's good to put separate link to the timetable: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=14774

The best news is that Semetín is back :)

[Hartusvuori]

Good looking schedule! Active spectator could see 8 or 9 stages. Also happy about the return of Semetín. My memory might fail here, but if it's run after Trojak, is the direction same as in 2010, not the more legendary version which was used last time in 2011. Also, second run of Pindula starts after sunset - though call.
No Halenkovice nor Kudlovice? Zlutava and Jankovice must share some of the roads respectively, I guess.

[Mirek]

Semetín will be in my opinion run in direction to Vsetín - that means the jumps are at the finish. Both directions are good for me ;) For Pindula the sunset will be just before start. In the forest it might be quite dark especially for later crews, yes. Stage Jankovice uses parts of both Kudlovice and Halenkovice stages. It will bring back the gravel connection road between them. The combination will be really nice stage! Stage Žlutava uses different part of Halenkovice stage.

[kbalaazs]

Nice stages :-)

[Mirek]

Timetable for historic cars is out. This time there will be two fields of historics. One competitive and one only show as normally.

http://www.barum.rally.cz/2013/pdf/star2013-itinerary.pdf

[Mirek]

Škoda confirmed all three crews! Kopecký, Lappi and Wiegand.

[Mirek]

Shakedown confirmed to be same with 2008 but slightly longer. That was the best shakedown in many years (also for the crews I think) but we'll see how the spectator safety measures will be this year. In fact its whole route was part of last year's TV stage Slušovice but reversed (the best and bumpiest part of the stage).

[Tom206wrc]

More news about entrylist, 2 weeks before start :confused:

[Mirek]

What do You want to see? Peugeot ignores Barum. Bouffier is trying to find money but will likely not succeed, same for Delecour. Solowow will not come, Kočí will not come. Kruuda and Kangur will have their cars on the way to Australia so will not come as well. I think that the list will be quite poor :(

What is sure is Fabia S2000 cup with Lappi, Kopecký, Wiegand, Kresta, Tarabus, Odložilík, Tlusťák, Jelínek, Adolf... Kostka probably with Fiesta R5, Pech with Mini. Arai with Impreza, Bonnefis and Consani with Méganes, Jakeš, Orsák with Lancers, Štajf with Impreza. Danzinger with Clio R3, Černý with 208 R2. We'll see...

[RS]

Kopecky, Lappi, Wiegand, Kresta, Kostka, Pech sounds like not a bad entry list to me by 2012 ERC standards (but not by previous IRC Barum standards)

[noel157]

What's public (and official) feeling towards rallying in Czech society after all that's happened?

[dimviii]

Kopecky test Barum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X7q8O46lEgg#at=87

[RS]

^^^ Finland on tarmac.

[Hartusvuori]

^^^ Finland on tarmac.

Funny you should mention this. 2 years ago in Zlín aafter scrutineering I got in talks with Phil Pugh and as we talked about the event, I mentioned that to some extent Zlín stages reminds me of Rally Finland on tarmac. Here what he said in an interview later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlb2TALrmw&feature=player_detailpage&t=129

[Mirek]

^^^ Finland on tarmac.

I think that the test was held on stage Malonty of Rallye Český Krumlov. One of our most classic ones :)

[Hartusvuori]

I think that the test was held on stage Malonty of Rallye Český Krumlov. One of our most classic ones :)

It says on the video it's Malonty. We almost drove the road last year on our way to Cesky Krumlov, but after all didn't. But we did drove some other Cesky Krumlov stage and roads in that area are equally nice.

[Mirek]

Ah, I always skip parts with no action so I missed the title :)

[PLuto]

Before normal entry list, which will be published on Monday later afternoon, today was published info about field of Star Rally Historic and entry list (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=14931) is included - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15557)

[Tom206wrc]

What do You want to see? Peugeot ignores Barum. Bouffier is trying to find money but will likely not succeed, same for Delecour. Solowow will not come, Kočí will not come. Kruuda and Kangur will have their cars on the way to Australia so will not come as well. I think that the list will be quite poor :(

What is sure is Fabia S2000 cup with Lappi, Kopecký, Wiegand, Kresta, Tarabus, Odložilík, Tlusťák, Jelínek, Adolf... Kostka probably with Fiesta R5, Pech with Mini. Arai with Impreza, Bonnefis and Consani with Méganes, Jakeš, Orsák with Lancers, Štajf with Impreza. Danzinger with Clio R3, Černý with 208 R2. We'll see...

And Molly Taylor in DS3 R3 ;)

[Hartusvuori]

Before normal entry list, which will be published on Monday later afternoon, today was published info about field of Star Rally Historic and entry list (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=14931) is included - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15557)

And this year there's a 037 when I'm not going... :-)

[Mirek]

Also an original prototype of Škoda 160 RS MTX and a protype of Škoda 130 LR gr.S.

[PLuto]

And this year there's a 037 when I'm not going... :-)

There is still time to change your plans ;)

[mousti]

Just guessing but I think we could see one of the Estonian Fiesta R5's there too.

[liposh]

Why do you think so? :) Hoping for something more than just pain in your knees :D

[Mirek]

Just guessing but I think we could see one of the Estonian Fiesta R5's there too.

Both will be on the ship to Australia, so the answer is no (unless there is another one).

[PLuto]

As Mirek told, no Estonian on Barum this year. I was trying to organising renting Fiesta R5 from Sykora to Kangur, but it will not happen...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Has Aigner entered to the rally?

[mousti]

As Mirek told, no Estonian on Barum this year. I was trying to organising renting Fiesta R5 from Sykora to Kangur, but it will not happen...

That's a pity..

[PLuto]

Has Aigner entered to the rally?

As I wrote before, no, Andi will not start.

[Mirek]

ENTRY LIST

http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=14777

Over 100 modern cars, historics, old timers in city stage etc. Not that bad after all. Now let's see who will really start :)

[RS]

Valousek with the Fiesta R5 could be interesting.

Is Wiegand running with proper Skoda Motorsport or with his German team?

[PLuto]

Is Wiegand running with proper Skoda Motorsport or with his German team?

Yes, proper Skoda Motorsport car.

[Mirek]

Well, his usual "German team" is Czech Juka Motorsport which can be called a satellite of Škoda Motorsport.

Anyway this years ERC is a nice example how FIA decision to stop S2000 homologations in 2010 ruined IRC/ERC. After three years there are still the same S2000 cars in ERC and You almost never find a single RRC on the list. Good work, FIA! But if they intended to stop IRC from growing they managed to do so pretty well...

[WRC1]

ENTRY LIST

http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=14777

Over 100 modern cars, historics, old timers in city stage etc. Not that bad after all. Now let's see who will really start :)

very good entry list, from Quality point of view maybe the best entry in this years ERC

looking Forward to meet as many of you in Zlin next week!!

[Andre Oliveira]

More 2 Fiesta R5, check full entry list here (http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=7315&t=Barum-Czech-Rally-Zlin-2013). Very good entry list

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1174550_380190195443562_1027098708_n.png

[Mirek]

I posted link to the official entry list. There is nothing more in that Yours except missing historic cars and additional show lists...

[RS]

ooo, I missed Kostka. He could be good.

Shame that Jan Cerny has had to revert to a lower-class car nowadays.

[jolle1982]

Is valdas car the fiesta of sykora or another one?

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[Mirek]

If somebody of You need help with stages and places to spectate, send me PM.

[WUff1]

ooo, I missed Kostka. He could be good.

Shame that Jan Cerny has had to revert to a lower-class car nowadays.

Maybe he gets paid for it? I´m sorry for his short ERC appearance in his now sold Fabia, too. Seems like a waste of talent ...

[tommeke_B]

Only Bouffier and Lapdavsky with a S2000 that's not Skoda, times have changed. Back in 2009 and 2010 the event was probably the best tarmac event you could go to (definitely better than the tarmac-WRC events), great atmosphere, great stages/region, and a great entry list. This year's entry list isn't bad, but I wouldn't drive 2x1400km for it.. Let's hope the ERC gets a boost when more R5 cars are homologated, I'm counting on it. :)

[Mirek]

Maps with official spectator points (click on the point in the map for detail): Barum Czech Rally Zlín (30.8. - 1.9.2013) (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2013/maps.php?sec=2&lng=en)

[liposh]

Maybe he gets paid for it? I´m sorry for his short ERC appearance in his now sold Fabia, too. Seems like a waste of talent ...
Nobody confirmed it, but we all expect Jan Cerny will drive 208 R2 for Peugeot CZ this year and next year they (Peugeot CZ) will give him 208 T16 R5 and some kind of support.

[Mirek]

We all? It's not sure. As always all is about money but sure there is a chance.

[Jarek Z]

There are many people who complain about the entry list for this year's Barum Rally. I guess they haven't seen entry list for Rally Australia in WRC yet. Take a look at those 30 crews to see how miserable this sport can become:
http://www.rallyaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Rally-Australia-2013-WRC-Entry-List-final.pdf

[sete]

Entry list for Barum is not bad,especially if Valoušek will really start with R5 car.But there was always several drivers from foreign countries with top class cars.This year its only Bouffier,except guys from Škoda motorsport.

[r27kul]

Hi everybody,
I'm planning to attend Barum Rally for the first time and I'd like to know if the image attached is from Biskupice special stage and if yes, where approxim?
What other places and stages are OK to shoot apart of the spectators places shown on the SS maps, as I'm planning to take photos for a local motorsport website?
Thank you.

[WUff1]

Entry list for Barum is not bad,especially if Valoušek will really start with R5 car.But there was always several drivers from foreign countries with top class cars.This year its only Bouffier,except guys from Škoda motorsport.

I´m happy for Valda returning to racing.

Entry list really doesn´t look bad, but I´m wondering what happened to Aigner´s ERC plans for the rest of the year. Also Bouffier may possibly drop out because of budget problems.
Also happy to see Jänner Rallye local hero Martin Fischerlehner competing!

[Mirek]

Hi everybody,
I'm planning to attend Barum Rally for the first time and I'd like to know if the image attached is from Biskupice special stage and if yes, where approxim?
What other places and stages are OK to shoot apart of the spectators places shown on the SS maps, as I'm planning to take photos for a local motorsport website?
Thank you.

That place is from SS Troják, this year it is run opposite way (from small road to main road but to the right, not left!). The location is: 49°19'28.119"N, 17°47'49.134"E

Watch 2:03, it's like it's going to be again: The Best of Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2012 (Action & Show) [Passats de canto] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knPQe5_10I)

I will send You some more tips but I will have them ready probably only on Sunday. If You have question to any other place, don't hesitate to ask ;)

[r27kul]

Thank you Mirek. any info will be usefull :) .

[jbmarcus21]

Timetable + Google Earth Map
Erc Barum Czech Rally Zlin 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/erc-barum-czech-rally-zlin-2013/)

[Mirek]

Tomáš Kostka testing Fiesta R5 on the beautiful road just next to stage Semetín (some of You probably drove the road on the way to Semetín jumps). Very nice. Action starts at 3:30.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW-1pJLpns

[Mirek]

I have sent to all of You about whom I know to come to Zlín some little help via private message. If there is somebody else, let me know but since tomorrow afternoon I will stay offline for a whole week, so be quick ;)

[Mirek]

By the way I realized this amazing onboard is available also on youtube. It contains all shakedown of this edition, so it's not off topic :)

Kopecký, Fabia WRC, Barum rally 2004. Shakedown 2013 is the crazy road between 1:10 and 2:45.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0x403XhcFw

[WUff1]

I´m happy for Valda returning to racing.

Entry list really doesn´t look bad, but I´m wondering what happened to Aigner´s ERC plans for the rest of the year. Also Bouffier may possibly drop out because of budget problems.
Also happy to see Jänner Rallye local hero Martin Fischerlehner competing!

As predicted Bouffier dropped out - not enough budget (source: fiaerc.com). :(

[pucky54]

As predicted Bouffier dropped out - not enough budget (source: fiaerc.com). :(

Yes, confirmed by Bryan himself at the beginning of last week

[sete]

my gallery from test of V.Pech
mirousxl | Testy V.Pech 2013 ? rajce.net (http://mirousxl.rajce.idnes.cz/Testy_V.Pech_2013/)

[Mirek]

Roman Kresta testing. Just two passes but very fast. It's stage of Rally Kopná.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJoHCC8mfnE

[dimviii]

:vader:

[gabryere]

this is my favorite race :)

[PLuto]

Also Antonin Tlustak was testing...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e_lGLgP2Qww

[PLuto]

Dont forget to make pickems - http://www.motorsportforums.com/erc/159615-pickem-2013-barum-czech-rally-zl%EDn.html

[Hartusvuori]

Rumour has it that no Bouffier and no Valda in R5 either... PLuto?

[sete]

Now its sure that Bouffier will not start-due to budget problems,if i am right.
About Valda-nothing is confirmed right now.

[Mirek]

Another video of Kostka's test including a lot of onboards. Very very fast!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttP1WHb0qBI

[dupanton]

Another video of Kostka's test including a lot of onboards. Very very fast!



I don't think he will finish if he keeps driving like this...

[Hartusvuori]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSwcuboIQAAHDZV.jpg:large

Tough recce conditions.

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall) 4m (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall/status/372704453344100352) Sunday stages recced for @FIAERC (https://twitter.com/FIAERC) Zlín. Hoping they dry out a bit from today…this lake conceals a tarmac road! #****ty (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23****ty&src=hash)

[PLuto]

Rumour has it that no Bouffier and no Valda in R5 either... PLuto?

Bouffier has sent excuse two days ago, financial reason. Valda is still finding budget, final decision today...

[PLuto]

Dont forget to make pickems - http://www.motorsportforums.com/erc/159615-pickem-2013-barum-czech-rally-zl%EDn.html

[tommeke_B]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSwcuboIQAAHDZV.jpg:large

Tough recce conditions.

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall) 4m (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall/status/372704453344100352) Sunday stages recced for @FIAERC (https://twitter.com/FIAERC) Zlín. Hoping they dry out a bit from today…this lake conceals a tarmac road! #****ty (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23****ty&src=hash)

That's on SS Majak, near Poholerice (or something like that), was used for shakedown in '09. And despite it was dry (you could drive on the fields without a problem), in that corner (the shot is just after a hairpin right), there was some standing water. I'm remembering too much about all this... :p

[rp]

Crews not picking up the road books and not starting (Source: http://www.barum.rally.cz):

3 Bryan Bouffier, Xavier Panseri (FRA, Peugeot 207 S2000, Bryan Bouffier)
17 Roman Odložilík, Martin Tureček (CZE, Škoda Fabia S2000, TRT Czech Rally Sport)
34 Martin Búš (CZE, Subaru Impreza STi, Czech National Roto Team)
36 Lukáš Lapdavský, Július Lapdavský (SVK, Peugeot 207 S2000, Deštruktprojekt Racing)
42 Václav Dunovský, Adam Eliáš (CZE, Renault Clio R3, Rallysport Poděbrady v AČR)
62 Josef Deneš, Ivo Vybíral (CZE, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Josef Dene&#353 ;)
63 Pavol Nagy, Pavol Kušnier (SVK, Citroën C2 R2 Max, Pavol Nagy)
66 Dariusz Poloński, Grzegorz Dobocz (POL, Ford Fiesta R2, Dariusz Poloński)
71 Matěj Řehák, Lukáš Říha (CZE, Honda Civic Type R, SAS Zlín)
81 Jiří Sojka, Jindřiška Žáková (CZE, Suzuki Swift Sport, AMK Rallye Český Krumlov)
89 Jiří Janecký, Milan Pokorný (CZE, Škoda Fabia, VD Rally Team Klub v AČR)
100 Eric Bagnoud, Michel Lamon (CHE, Renault Twingo R1, Ecurie du Geneve)

[Rasantes]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS1qoo-CMAAEoGq.jpg:large

[WUff1]

So Valda is starting?

Wondering why Odlozilik doesn´t start ...

[jolle1982]

After the crash of koci in slovakia he dont have a car for barum i think

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[kober]

Looks like a five-head battle: Kopecky vs Lappi vs Wiegand (least likely) vs Kostka vs Valousek. My money's on car #1.

[Jarek Z]

Looks like a five-head battle: Kopecky vs Lappi vs Wiegand (least likely) vs Kostka vs Valousek. My money's on car #1.

Do you expect Wiegand to fight for a win? Did you see his performance on Deutschland Rally?

[kober]

Do you expect Wiegand to fight for a win? Did you see his performance on Deutschland Rally?No, not really. That's why I put "least likely" next to his name. Although, podium is definitely within his reach.

[noel157]

Cerny test:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rTVURKtw5A&feature=youtu.be&a

[Hartusvuori]

This might be far-fetched, but any times from shakedown? Or was it at 8AM?

[Rasantes]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS6BFOVCcAAnDLv.jpg:large

[cytrus]

looks good :)

[tolis]

First photos from SD: Barum Czech Rally Zln 2013 - ME - Mistrovstv Evropy (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1191)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_d8d8de312c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_b56fdf3f17.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_8b6680bad0.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_d8ea6155f1.jpg

More photos from shake HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1191)

[HaCo]

No times here?

[dupanton]

Looks like a five-head battle: Kopecky vs Lappi vs Wiegand (least likely) vs Kostka vs Valousek. My money's on car #1.

For me, Lappi and Wiegand will be behind. Don't forget about Pech, could be close too ;)

[RICARDO75]

No times here?

Barum Czech Rally Zlín (30.8. - 1.9.2013) (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2013/press_detail.php?cont=419&sec=4&lng=en)

[mrakili]

For me, Lappi and Wiegand will be behind. Don't forget about Pech, could be close too ;)

Abolutely agree. Pech is a very fast driver, but i have a feeling that since he drives a Mini, he is slower than he was with the EVO9. Goooo Pech!!

[HaCo]

Never sure of how hard they push on shakedown, unless it's qualifying. It's not the case here?

[stefanvv]

Never sure of how hard they push on shakedown, unless it's qualifying. It's not the case here?

I think it was used in Ypres only for some reason

[Hartusvuori]

City stage live on YouTube!

http://bit.ly/18bG8Ms

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How long until the top drivers are on stage ?

[uranium]

How long until the top drivers are on stage ?
Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2013 - Start order - section 1, leg 1 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/barum-czech-rally-zlin-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=358)

[mrakili]

A question to czech forumers. Is the sponsor of Tarabus (on the car) Elan a czech firm or is this the company wich makes skies from Slovenia. Or have they just the same name

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2013 - Start order - section 1, leg 1 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/barum-czech-rally-zlin-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=358)

Thanks - been watching the live video trying to work out who was running ... easier with a start list ! :D

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=507044216045539 This is the main reason why I love the City stage! :D

[dimviii]

Pech 6 sec faster,lets see Kopecky!

[dimviii]

Kopecky 3 sec faster.Big gaps for a city stage!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

9 kms is quite long for a city stage though..

[mousti]

Beres family entertained like every year the audience in Zlin! :D Quattro fun!

Beres Sr and Jr show off with Audi Quattro S1 Group B & Audi Sport Quattro Pure Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nfUO_P47P8&)

[stefanvv]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=507044216045539 This is the main reason why I love the City stage! :D

Definitelly my favorite city stage of all times :D

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_b3479e86e9.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_c8d0d2d6dc.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_3d39e45b1d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_e9f67473cc.jpg

More photos from night city stage and ceremonial start HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1191)

[RS]

SS2 live. Kopecky looked really quick on the shakedown footage on fiaerc.com

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Nice time from Jakes.

[HaCo]

Hope Kostka can improve, let's not make it too easy for Kopecky!

[Honza H.]

A question to czech forumers. Is the sponsor of Tarabus (on the car) Elan a czech firm or is this the company wich makes skies from Slovenia. Or have they just the same name

It is definitely the Slovenian ski brand. However, my guess is that the sponsor of Tarabus is really a Czech company, probably some local Czech dealer of Elan skis, not directly the ski producer.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Watching the results from the last weeks (except Evans in Germany) I'm really asking myself, if the Fiesta R5 is in fact slower than the old NA S2000 cars.

[HaCo]

I was thinking the other way around: if kostka can follow Kopecky, the R5 must help him with that. ;-)

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[Ucci]

I'm closley watching times of Kostka: first two stages were Ok, but third and fourth stages already loosing to much time compared to Kopecky, Pech, Kresta.....I hope this will not turn from surprise of the rally to disappointment of the rally....

[hari]

I was thinking the other way around: if kostka can follow Kopecky, the R5 must help him with that. ;-)

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But on the other hand last year Kostka with Fabia S2000 was closer to Kopecky than now with R5 after a couple of stages...

[cytrus]

I think so that Kopecky throughout the rally will be unbeatable

[mrakili]

It is definitely the Slovenian ski brand. However, my guess is that the sponsor of Tarabus is really a Czech company, probably some local Czech dealer of Elan skis, not directly the ski producer.

Thank you for the answer. But that in fact is sad. Here in Slovenia no one wants to sponsor a rally driver, even our gas company not. I am thinking, even when the Elan sponsor is a czech supplier it must have some conformation from the Slovenian elan.

[WUff1]

Wiegand is rather dissapointing until now in my opinion. Good race of Pech as expected.

[Honza H.]

..., even when the Elan sponsor is a czech supplier it must have some conformation from the Slovenian elan.

An interesting question, but I doubt you´ll get it answered :)

[cytrus]

What's going on with Wiegand? I was hoping for a better speed.

[RS]

What's going on with Wiegand? I was hoping for a better speed.

I just think he isn't that good. WRC2 isn't a great benchmark.

Lappi is closer with less experience.

Valousek is also quite disappointing, although I suppose he doesn't know the car.

[cytrus]

I think you're right :)
In Germany, it is considered a great talent hmmm is still young so ...

[dimviii]

Kostka front diff problem

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I think you're right :)
In Germany, it is considered a great talent hmmm is still young so ...
It doesn't mean a lot if you are considered as a talent in Germany. Some years ago Mark Wallenwein was a big german rally talent.

[tommeke_B]

it's not difficult to be one of the best in Germany, no offense, but the level in German rallying is very very low nowadays...

[uranium]

Kopecky is going to win every stage ? ;)

[cytrus]

I noticed this.
Back to the topic
ss 6 Trojak started :)

[RS]

Lappi off.

[cytrus]

A lot is lost but the finish ss.
Valousek puncture.

[darkstar]

wallenwein never was a talent, he has never shown anything, not even in german rallyeing. he was just pushed from the german media, because the name wallenwein is big in german rallyesport, like gassner is. but gassner jr is a much better driver then wallenwein. he was at least fast in germany but international he also wasnt. riedeman was not so fast from the start but became pretty good especially with the fiesta r2 but also didnt manage to impress on international level. meanwhile in the citroen hes not so bad i must say. wiegand had no rallye experience at first but was extraordinary fast in germany. i really believed in him. he was faster then all other german "talents" right from the start. and whats unusual for a german driver is, that hes faster on gravel then on tarmac. but he doesnt really seem to develop and does not impress much, so yes, he´s dissapointing now, or lets say, i didnt expect him to be fast at barum anyway...he has a good speed and is quite consistent but not extremely fast. lappi seems to be a bit of a crasher to me btw.

[bluuford]

Lappi and Wiegand have been the most dissapointing drivers in ERC/WRC2 for me in 2013. I was expecting a lot more from them.

[cytrus]

ss 7 Kopecky increased advantage.
Valoušek this time without power steering

[kober]

Seven out of seven for Kopecky - not bad, although this could be expected. Shame that Tarabus received the penalty, he would be just behind Pech at the moment. And Kresta is in better shape than I thought, nice drive in his last rally (or so he says (http://www.maxrally.com/2013/08/30/and-its-goodbye-from-me)).

[cytrus]

Kopecky has a good speed and I think tomorrow we will have controlled the situation without taking the risk.

[darkstar]

what do they laugh about at the end of the video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5QkJo2d30

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Kopecky has a good speed and I think tomorrow we will have controlled the situation without taking the risk.
Hopefully it's not really his last rally. I always liked his driving style.

[dimviii]

what do they laugh about at the end of the video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5QkJo2d30

maybe they laugh about the hot moment at shakedown?
there is a photo here with almost 2 wheels
Barum Czech Rally Zln 2013 - ME - Mistrovstv Evropy (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1191#)

[uranium]

there is a photo here with almost 2 wheels

At what time did it happen? Cann't understands from the video.

[uranium]

The only place with Bulgarian flags is around 1:50, so it might be during another drive through this shakedown

[RS]

what do they laugh about at the end of the video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5QkJo2d30

I don't know but I guess they were just enjoying the sideways style :) Nice drive!

[had_zachau]

to Honza H.

I think that Tarabus is sponsored by INA Sport, which is importer of Elan, Hummel and other brands to Czech republic. In last year he had on the car INA sport stickers.

[had_zachau]

I don't know but I guess they were just enjoying the sideways style :) Nice drive!

Jan said: It was nice and then laught

[Jarek Z]

Jan Cerny's driving is really impressive. Driving only Peugeot 208 R2 he is over one minute faster than his opponents in 2WD, including Super 1600 cars!
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_3e11ad668b.jpg

[RS]

Lappi is out. Rollcage damage after his off.

[Jarek Z]

Oh no, he will ruin my Pickems! :O

[ettelbruck]

First overnight visit ever to Czech and done stages 1,2 and 5. Great roads (pity we had no time for real spectator recce), great driving! Really nice rally.
Just difficulties with Czech language and the fact that ordinary spectators seem not to like foreigners. Like on Pindula, just trying to get some help at kiosk - nobody on the line helped.

[Walach]

You were partly unlucky, but sad fact is that very high percentage of people here don’t speak english or another foreign language.
I use to help any foreigner having troubles here :)

[Raven]

the fact that ordinary spectators seem not to like foreigners.
I also had one unlucky incident when czech spectators found out I'm polish. But it was only one time and I was on Barum 6 or 7 times.

I heard this year last stage was interrupted by drunk polish spectators? Is that true or it's just a rumour?

[Jeppe]

I heard this year last stage was interrupted by drunk polish spectators? Is that true or it's just a rumour?

Unfortunately it is true. From rally-base.com comments:
"Stage is cancelled after few cars due to drunk undisciplined polish spectators. Other cars will go alternate route."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What happened to the Fiesta R5's ? Not close to matching the S2000s is disappointing when they are supposed to be the future. :(

[mousti]

This is also Barum Rally..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1170818_544931215561853_882531947_n.jpg

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_84ab2951cb.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_37576fdeca.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_4b8e9e7e17.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1191/1191_barum_czech_rally_zlin_2013_4129c913e1.jpg

More photos HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1191)

[makinen_fan]

Lappi was very lucky that he was able to continue after this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suGMQBJAsTk

[RS]

What happened to the Fiesta R5's ? Not close to matching the S2000s is disappointing when they are supposed to be the future. :(

It seems they haven't got the suspension very well sorted for these very bumpy types of roads. Both Valousek and Kostka reported problems in this respect, Kostka went as far as to say it was "undriveable".

Of course part of it is that neither driver is as fast as Kopecky on this event, but I have to say I was expecting a bit better from them.

I really think the Fiesta will suffer from lack of development time when the Peugeot and Skoda come out.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It seems they haven't got the suspension very well sorted for these very bumpy types of roads. Both Valousek and Kostka reported problems in this respect,

I really think the Fiesta will suffer from lack of development time when the Peugeot and Skoda come out.

The thing is, the Fiesta R5 was the first R5 out and seems to have been in development for the longest so should be the most sorted ...

Surely the R5 should at least be very close to a 4-5 year old design Skoda, and only beaten by one as Kopecky is the class driver in the event ?

I see Valousek is doing better today but are the others just taking it easy wanting to ensure they finish ?

[RS]

The thing is, the Fiesta R5 was the first R5 out and seems to have been in development for the longest so should be the most sorted ...


Well, right now it is the only homologated R5. The development process seemed quite short to me, Skoda and Peugeot will both have longer.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The long experience M-Sport has with the Fiesta WRC & RRC should mean they know how to set-up the car ...

Maybe the S2000's are still the better cars and the R5 is showing its created to a lower budget. Plus turbo-cars can be less easy to drive than N/A ones.

[bluuford]

I think it is taking some time to set up new car for such a specific conditions like they have in Barum. If you look the times from day 2 then Valoušek is leading by nearly 15 sec in front of Jan and over half a minute in front of Pech (how long time he was away from real competition, Valoušek I mean). So, he is doing much better today even if the others are not pushing 100%

[Jarek Z]

I think it is taking some time to set up new car for such a specific conditions like they have in Barum. If you look the times from day 2 then Valoušek is leading by nearly 15 sec in front of Jan and over half a minute in front of Pech (how long time he was away from real competition, Valoušek I mean). So, he is doing much better today even if the others are not pushing 100%

Yes, Valousek is the fastest driver of Leg 2. He already managed to move from the 14th position up to 8th and has chances for 7th. Good job!

[Jarek Z]

I'm afraid that both Austrian crews are out of the 2WD competition. Danziger crashed on SS6 and Neubauer has some technical problems with his Suzuki today. Jan Cerny comfortably leads 2wd category one minute in front of Elwis Chentre.

[marcosg]

You can't compare Valousek times with Pech and Jan today... Pech tried last push this morning but chose wrong tires... So soon both controlled there pace right after Majak... And then Kresta punctured... Maybe you could compare times with Kresta... He says its his last rally and after he lost the podium and the chance to catch Pech he seems to be pushing just for fun and stage wins

[RS]

Rally is over. Another win for Kopecky, not unexpected but he still showed his dominance by winning all the stages yesterday. I believe he could have done the same today had he wished to do so. Congratulations to Jan, Pavel and Skoda.

I guess the disappointments of the rally were the R5 pace and the other two Skoda Motorsport drivers. Not quite the same as the days when we had Kopecky, Hanninen and Loix all fighting for the win!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another foregone conclusion - a win by Kopecky.

Not sure there is much point in these events being in the ERC if no-one else is going to attend them.

Looks like the organisers are using girls more than cars to attract the spectators !
Page 3 :) Event Photos' Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/photogallery/list/id/10)

[wwbroe]

Congratulations for Jan and Pavel for yet another victory, must been said that this time it was quite easy victory for them. The Fiesta's R5 were a little bit disappointing and Wiegand showed that he is no WRC material at all. I don't understand why VW want to put him in a world rally car, knowing that they distroyed a real talent like Abbring. I was surprised by the speed of Tarabus, who made some exellent time's, unfortunally he punctured, just like Kresta.

[Nornbugger]

Looks like the organisers are using girls more than cars to attract the spectators !
Page 3 :) Event Photos' Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/photogallery/list/id/10)

this has been part of the rally in CZ for years now, and long may it continue, ps the were some guys 'modelling' too ;-)

[jolle1982]

You must see, for wiegand it was the first time in the works fabia. His juka car is 5 years old. Its an upgrated evo1 to evo2 and with some actual spareparts. He said to me at rallye germany its a big diffrent to drive the works fabia

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mini mit Tapatalk 2

[marcosg]

Not sure there is much point in these events being in the ERC if no-one else is going to attend them.

Looks like the organisers are using girls more than cars to attract the spectators !


Not the organizers but the teams themselves... And this year one team thought of you and brought along two men ;)

What do you mean these events? The whole championship? ERC? Threre has been little attendence since the beggining of the year...

[had_zachau]

Not the organizers but the teams themselves... And this year one team thought of you and brought along two men ;)

What do you mean these events? The whole championship? ERC? Threre has been little attendence since the beggining of the year...

Ladies crew so .....

https://sphotos-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q72/s720x720/1006057_404364849663854_1966031589_n.jpg

[RS]

He said to me at rallye germany its a big diffrent to drive the works fabia



In other words the car he drove on Barum is faster and he has less excuses!

[Jarek Z]

There has been a lot of accidents in Czech Republic which involved spectators in recent years. Good to see that this year safety has been improved! :D

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/10_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_Ambiance_Cze_42.jpg

[marcosg]

In other words the car he drove on Barum is faster and he has less excuses!

It seemed fast enough at shakedown...

[Hartusvuori]

Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy goes to Mirek Jakes! Very nice that he had a solid result. I hope this makes his future budget raising a tad more easier.

[sete]

my gallery from Barum
mirousxl | Barum Rally 2013 ? rajce.net (http://mirousxl.rajce.idnes.cz/Barum_Rally_2013/)

[Mirek]

I'm back after a whole week offline (great experience, try that :D )

All in all I had a great time. Met plenty of friends and other people and also had nice time on stages. Saw shakedown and 8 stages (1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15). I was afraid about too strict spectator safety but in the end it was all ok. Very safe but reasonable with nice view from allowed places, no rude marshals like in some other our events this year. Plenty of food/drink tents even on distant places were also nice. Also spectators were generally very disciplined. I have not seen any kind of spectator related incident on all places where I was. When I was marshaling in scrutineering I had a feeling there is much less spectators but on stages it was looking much better. Probably still less people than in last few years but not so much more like it looked on scrutineering.

Few words to top drivers in finish...

Kopecký - since the first shakedown run it was clear who is the boss here. The driving was another league than others. Pretty spectacular in my favorite place as well! Huge difference from 2008 when it was run same. The suspension and tyres moved so much that it looks like fast forward now. By the way the times from shakedown were basically same like what Kopecký did in 2004 with Fabia WRC there (1:47 over the course but without a chicane and without start from zero speed, now 1:51); on stages Kopecký looked relatively calm thanks to incredibly well set suspension which worked just incredible over all bumps, today clearly on safe mode

Pech - fast, solid, without mistakes, on Saturday said he can't push more but still managed maximum he could I think

Tarabus - better than I expected, very spectacular and fast in same time, pity of that stupid co-driver's mistake and the puncture today, he could have fought with Pech; just by driving his best ever performance I would say

Wiegand - not bad but on tricky places You could clearly see where he's loosing the time; good that this time he had no offs like last year

Kresta - very fast but the small mistake on Troják 2 and especially the puncture on Jankovice 1 ruined his chances for second place; I wished him a podium for his last Barum rally; I will miss him definitely, he still has speed to count with and his extra aggressive style is nice to watch too

Jakeš - my hero of the rally, on city stage I had a feeling that this must end with a crash but it lasted till the end; just perfect performance! Hope it helps him in the future, he is the biggest young talent here for sure

Orsák - had some technical problems and otherwise was really good but remained in the shadow of Jakeš; I was on last meters of last stage and he was trying very hard to keep Valoušek behind which he managed by 0,5 seconds!

Valoušek - long driving pause, no test with completely new car, new co-driver without testing, puncture and technical problems but still 2 SS wins and very good speed today (but those stages are very close to his living place and different to Saturday ones), he was pretty spectacular in places too

Tlusťák - same strange driving style as always, slower than his team mate Orsák again, not much to speak about

Kořístka - big surprise! His only fifth or sixth event with gr.N car and second place in ERC, also helped Orsák by keeping Bonnefis behind, very promising

Bonnefis - again in finish with good points while Consani is out, same song all the time, hard to say if one can drive much faster with Mégane on Czech stages, especially today on wet and dirt (here I would like to point out that again there was less anti-cutting obstacles than last year and the road got quickly very dirty today).

Černý - hardly could do more, pity he is not consistently fast in every event, here he was perfect

About the R5 Fiestas I would agree that the suspension is not yet set properly for Barum stages, namely Troják and especially Semetín with a lot of crests, bumps and jumps on very narrow road. That's where Fabias work outstanding. Somebody said it's 4-5 years old design - basically it is but it was developed much farther through the years. It's really big difference on same places...

[Mirek]

Video with crazy bumpy place just after start of Biskupice stage:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pMXwtRx_yk

[dupanton]

I'm back after a whole week offline (great experience, try that :D )

All in all I had a great time. Met plenty of friends and other people and also had nice time on stages. Saw shakedown and 8 stages (1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15). I was afraid about too strict spectator safety but in the end it was all ok. Very safe but reasonable with nice view from allowed places, no rude marshals like in some other our events this year. Plenty of food/drink tents even on distant places were also nice. Also spectators were generally very disciplined. I have not seen any kind of spectator related incident on all places where I was. When I was marshaling in scrutineering I had a feeling there is much less spectators but on stages it was looking much better. Probably still less people than in last few years but not so much more like it looked on scrutineering.

Few words to top drivers in finish...

Kopecký - since the first shakedown run it was clear who is the boss here. The driving was another league than others. Pretty spectacular in my favorite place as well! Huge difference from 2008 when it was run same. The suspension and tyres moved so much that it looks like fast forward now. By the way the times from shakedown were basically same like what Kopecký did in 2004 with Fabia WRC there (1:47 over the course but without a chicane and without start from zero speed, now 1:51); on stages Kopecký looked relatively calm thanks to incredibly well set suspension which worked just incredible over all bumps, today clearly on safe mode

Pech - fast, solid, without mistakes, on Saturday said he can't push more but still managed maximum he could I think

Tarabus - better than I expected, very spectacular and fast in same time, pity of that stupid co-driver's mistake and the puncture today, he could have fought with Pech; just by driving his best ever performance I would say

Wiegand - not bad but on tricky places You could clearly see where he's loosing the time; good that this time he had no offs like last year

Kresta - very fast but the small mistake on Troják 2 and especially the puncture on Jankovice 1 ruined his chances for second place; I wished him a podium for his last Barum rally; I will miss him definitely, he still has speed to count with and his extra aggressive style is nice to watch too

Jakeš - my hero of the rally, on city stage I had a feeling that this must end with a crash but it lasted till the end; just perfect performance! Hope it helps him in the future, he is the biggest young talent here for sure

Orsák - had some technical problems and otherwise was really good but remained in the shadow of Jakeš; I was on last meters of last stage and he was trying very hard to keep Valoušek behind which he managed by 0,5 seconds!

Valoušek - long driving pause, no test with completely new car, new co-driver without testing, puncture and technical problems but still 2 SS wins and very good speed today (but those stages are very close to his living place and different to Saturday ones), he was pretty spectacular in places too

Tlusťák - same strange driving style as always, slower than his team mate Orsák again, not much to speak about

Kořístka - big surprise! His only fifth or sixth event with gr.N car and second place in ERC, also helped Orsák by keeping Bonnefis behind, very promising

Bonnefis - again in finish with good points while Consani is out, same song all the time, hard to say if one can drive much faster with Mégane on Czech stages, especially today on wet and dirt (here I would like to point out that again there was less anti-cutting obstacles than last year and the road got quickly very dirty today).

Černý - hardly could do more, pity he is not consistently fast in every event, here he was perfect

About the R5 Fiestas I would agree that the suspension is not yet set properly for Barum stages, namely Troják and especially Semetín with a lot of crests, bumps and jumps on very narrow road. That's where Fabias work outstanding. Somebody said it's 4-5 years old design - basically it is but it was developed much farther through the years. It's really big difference on same places...

Tnx Mirek!

Can you say something about Lappi? Times looked very decent for a gravel expert, but how was he driving on the stages? :)

[Hartusvuori]

Oddly quiet here on the forum during this year's Barum Rally. I was mostly offline for the weekend as well and couldn't follow the event, but it would've been nice to read through more comments. Last year it was twice as much messages.

[Mirek]

Tnx Mirek!

Can you say something about Lappi? Times looked very decent for a gravel expert, but how was he driving on the stages? :)

Lappi was racing in karts for ten years and I think he tried also some formula cars so he is not just gravel expert ;) Where I saw him it was looking good, clean lines, no crazy over-driving.

[Mirek]

Mirek Jakeš awarded Colin Mcrae Flat Out Trophy :)

... and Jan Černý is already Czech 2WD champion.

[dupanton]

Lappi was racing in karts for ten years and I think he tried also some formula cars so he is not just gravel expert ;) Where I saw him it was looking good, clean lines, no crazy over-driving.

In rallying, he hasn't much experience on tarmac. I dont think you can compare much between karting and tarmac rallying. Only the clean lines, which is off-course a good start :)

[Mirek]

Nice video with many offs. I was on some of those places as well :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NROg3vpr_yc&feature=player_embedded#t=0

[Mirek]

Big moment of Kresta on well known Semetín jump


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwo0sCwv25M&feature=player_embedded

[Mirek]

Top 5 of historic cars in finish:

1. Vančík (Lada VFTS) 53:55.2
2. Tenkl (BMW M3) +21.6
3. Navrátil (Sierra RS Cosworth) +23.2
4. Máčala (Mercedes 500 SLC) +1:57.3
5. Budil (BMW 2002 TI) +4:25.7

[tommeke_B]

Very nice videos, it's still a great event. Also nice to see that the current status of rallying in the Czech Republic did not affect the Barum Rally too much.
Had a little flashback to '09 when I saw Beres Sr stopping with his Quattro on the city stage (same place as the same car stopped in '09, with very similar problem :D ). Was also quite impressed by the footage of the bumpy part on Biskupice, we were there in 2010 (rainy), and it wasn't that spectacular at all, really big difference. :) Hope to be there again next year.

[Mirek]

All mediasport onboards will be available for non-Czech IPs next week. Some are awesome :)

[rallyelee]

pics on Rallyesportfotos (http://www.rallyesportfotos.de) online

reg. Jörg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/13z11.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/13z2.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/13z12.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/13z14.jpg

[Mirek]

Action packed highlights from Eurosport footage which I have not see so far. Huge crash of Hádik is also in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GTslHm-9PI

[Jarek Z]

Oddly quiet here on the forum during this year's Barum Rally. I was mostly offline for the weekend as well and couldn't follow the event, but it would've been nice to read through more comments. Last year it was twice as much messages.

Blame it on Kopecky. He won every single stage of day one and ended any dicussions ;)

[Mirek]

Kopecký was clearly different league from first shakedown run. You could see the absolute confidence in perfectly set-up car, something what the privateers can hardly ever achieve.

Another nice video (sorry for spamming but I will continue :D )



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPevm05EkIM

[stefanvv]

(sorry for spamming but I will continue :D )
You do that :D This is what was missed during the Rally.

[Jarek Z]

Results of the annual Barum photo competition:
Barum Czech Rally Zlín (30.8. - 1.9.2013) (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2013/press_detail.php?cont=401&sec=4&lng=en)

[dupanton]

All mediasport onboards will be available for non-Czech IPs next week. Some are awesome :)

Can you post the best ones here when they are available everywhere? :)

[Mirek]

Sure ;)

Here You have something to watch, a compilation of Elwis Chentre's onboards. Especially Troják and Semetín are awesome (2nd and 3rd stage in the video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpVb3OsWeF4

[Mirek]

Video from crazy bumpy roads of Jankovice, Semetín adn Troják:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPXaq-rTIJo

And some extraordinary photos:

Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2013 [dan] | RallyLife.cz (http://www.rallylife.cz/barum-czech-rally-zlin-2013-dan)

http://www.rallylife.cz/data/imgs/0026924l.jpg

[dimviii]

at bumpy stages skodas were on their own league.

[PLuto]

But on the other hand last year Kostka with Fabia S2000 was closer to Kopecky than now with R5 after a couple of stages...

Dont forget, that when Kostka was fast with Fabia S2000, he was doing whole season of rallysprints, he was racing in rally car almost every month. But this year, till now, he has made only two small rallysprints with Fiesta WRC...

[PLuto]

Valousek is also quite disappointing, although I suppose he doesn't know the car.

He was not racing since Janner Rallye, new codriver, new car without any test... I must say he was faster than I expected before...

[PLuto]

I also had one unlucky incident when czech spectators found out I'm polish. But it was only one time and I was on Barum 6 or 7 times.

I heard this year last stage was interrupted by drunk polish spectators? Is that true or it's just a rumour?

Yes, it is a true. They were physically attacking marshalls, destroying taping, throwing signal rockets to the road and to the racing cars...

[PLuto]

What happened to the Fiesta R5's ? Not close to matching the S2000s is disappointing when they are supposed to be the future. :(

I think it was not only because of cars, but also drivers. Both are not in racing rhythm this year...

[PLuto]

Jan Cerny's driving is really impressive. Driving only Peugeot 208 R2 he is over one minute faster than his opponents in 2WD, including Super 1600 cars!

I must say that Jan Cerny had very very big advantage with his starting position. He had much more clear road (especially on Sunday) and also better weather helped him a lot, especially on second Trojak...

[PLuto]

Looks like the organisers are using girls more than cars to attract the spectators !

Lot of girls is job of teams and spectators, not organisers :)

[PLuto]

Congratulations for Jan and Pavel for yet another victory, must been said that this time it was quite easy victory for them. The Fiesta's R5 were a little bit disappointing and Wiegand showed that he is no WRC material at all. I don't understand why VW want to put him in a world rally car, knowing that they distroyed a real talent like Abbring.

Wiegand is German...

[Mintexmemory]

Wiegand is German...

...and the alternative was Gassner jr.

[Mirek]

Wiegand was faster than Gassner jr. immediately when he sit in "big" car. They fought with each other in several IRC events last year. The fact is that there is no faster German rallydriver now. Also Wiegand is still very young. His progress was rocket but somehow stopped as it seems.

[pucky54]

There has been a lot of accidents in Czech Republic which involved spectators in recent years. Good to see that this year safety has been improved! :D

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/10_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_Ambiance_Cze_42.jpg

Maybe they should have send them to the stupid spectators on SS9 ;)

[pucky54]

His progress was rocket but somehow stopped as it seems.

...since beginning of 2012 ;)

[John_]

Photos - http://www.johnfoto.cz

[dimviii]

excellent photos John!

[Mirek]

One video dedicated to Jakeš


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E87DqiqHzX0

[darkstar]

Wiegand was faster than Gassner jr. immediately when he sit in "big" car. They fought with each other in several IRC events last year. The fact is that there is no faster German rallydriver now. Also Wiegand is still very young. His progress was rocket but somehow stopped as it seems.

my words ;)


... wiegand had no rallye experience at first but was extraordinary fast in germany. i really believed in him. he was faster then all other german "talents" right from the start... but he doesnt really seem to develop and does not impress much, so yes, he´s dissapointing now, or lets say, i didnt expect him to be fast at barum anyway...he has a good speed and is quite consistent but not extremely fast...

[had_zachau]

http://youtu.be/LnRPfpjREUU

[darkstar]

i´m just watching the tv coverage from barum, they said lappi had ambitions to start a f1 career but due to lack of money he decidet to switch to rallyeing. and i suddenly noticed that there was no breen :D didnt recognize it before, why was he missing?

[PLuto]

why was he missing?

Too strong competition for Peugeot...

[Mirek]

had_zachau: What was in that video? It's removed now...

Another great photos: Autosport : MMR - Barum Czech Rally Zln (ME+MMR) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=72&id=1091&autor=95)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/d1bccd136f1933a219f8346f5481f52d.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

had_zachau: What was in that video? It's removed now...

It was a video montage from some corner showing first many cars coming in one big bulk one after another and also some other "funny" stuff like a girl getting a pint of beer and crossing the road while a car comes almost hitting her - it was two different situations, but still... It was very well done, I don't say that and I don't know why it is removed.

[Mirek]

Another nice spam :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOYNoegrf_Q

[Mirek]

Videos keep going in better and better quality. Sorry, I can't help myself. This time some pure sideways action :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wj-WX-h5B4

[dimviii]

Videos keep going
@ 1,54 !! Bumpy setup from another planet!

[RS]

Videos keep going in better and better quality. Sorry, I can't help myself. This time some pure sideways action :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wj-WX-h5B4

Kopecky at 0:21 :D I believe that was shakedown, but I think the whole rally he was a bit more flamboyant than usual, but in an elegant and efficient way!

And 1:43, how can he do such a corner on the rev limiter?!

[vino_93]

who is Koritska ? I never heard anything about him :confused:

[pucky54]

My gallery is online now at: Autosport : MMR - Barum Czech Rally Zln (ME+MMR) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=72&id=1091&autor=104)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/91866c8624335544e103a76808e6e8c4.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/75cd5b78d5372ee82887bab8f121b580.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/2ceddb9beaedda84ac2bc7cc278960db.jpg

[stefanvv]

It was a video montage from some corner showing first many cars coming in one big bulk one after another and also some other "funny" stuff like a girl getting a pint of beer and crossing the road while a car comes almost hitting her - it was two different situations, but still... It was very well done, I don't say that and I don't know why it is removed.

I liked that part when a car in the middle of the pack had a spin and continued after the last car in the pack :D

[had_zachau]

who is Koritska ? I never heard anything about him :confused:

He won 2WD title in czech rallysprint championship in 2012. This year he is member of Jarin Orsak team in rallysprint.

His profile: Robert Kostka - profile eWRC-results.com (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=10791&t=Robert-Koristka)

[Mirek]

Kopecky at 0:21 :D I believe that was shakedown, but I think the whole rally he was a bit more flamboyant than usual, but in an elegant and efficient way!

And 1:43, how can he do such a corner on the rev limiter?!

Both is shakedown, both corners are close from each other. As I said before Kopecký was quite extreme in first shakedown runs but last years as well. Maybe it's a part of psychologic war to stun others by already first shakedown run. Anyway it's great to watch so I don't complain :D

I also think that with the new tyres You must be a bit more flamboyant to be fast. In Ypres I had exactly same impression.



who is Koritska ? I never heard anything about him :confused:

As had-zachau pointed out Kořístka won 2WD rallysprints last year when he moved from from Civic VTi to Ignis S1600. You can see in the ewrc profile that he's not much experienced driver but it seems that any new bigger car makes no problems to him. He is also rarely crashing, the only crash in his profile was just a trip in to the ditch on a muddy road. Lets see how he can progress in the future, hopefully he goes abroad with Orsák's team.

[Mirek]

Photos of Roman Kašpárek

Autosport : MMR - Barum Czech Rally Zln (ME+MMR) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=72&id=1091&autor=25)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/15f222cfd3c47c1f6fa307c147197604.jpg

[Mirek]

And one special video :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxQed6y7q4E

[dimviii]

after this video OldF=divorce :D

[bluuford]

And one special video :D



Nice moment at 1:25 :-P

[Mirek]

The very best moment is at 4:14. Who knows why? :D

[MartijnS]

0:51 at the left!

He must have been laying on the ground for those upskirt shots :D

[WRC1]

my Pictures of Barum Czech Rally Zlin

2013 « rallyepics.at (http://www.rallyepics.at/wp/index.php/wp/nggallery/2013/barum-rally-zlin-2013?page_id=102/)

[WRC1]

The very best moment is at 4:14. Who knows why? :D

Pluto is there!!!!

[EightGear]

The very best moment is at 4:14. Who knows why? :D

PLuto, is that you?

Walking by without even noticing those girls it seems. :D

[Mirek]

Bingo ;)

[ChristianArp]

The very best moment is at 4:14. Who knows why? :D

PHOTOBOMB mr. Mirek!
.. or, technically it would be videobomb. :rolleyes:

[OldF]

Ok, back from the toilet after watching the video :up: . Does anyone know if it it’s possible to paint those girls with bare hands?


after this video OldF=divorce :D

No problem, my wife is sleeping already. :)

[PLuto]

Great. So I am part of video "Girls Barum Rally" :)

[PLuto]

PLuto, is that you?

Walking by without even noticing those girls it seems. :D

During the rally I am focused to rally :) I was trying to organise queue before ceremonial start... There is lot of time to meet the girls later/before ;)

[Mirek]

You must be very brave to drive Mégane over Barum roads! Onboard compilation of Germain Bonnefis from Troják, Pindula and Semetín:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX-YiZ_7KVI

[danon]

Is it really needed to make 12 separated posts? Can You please put more stuff into less posts and make the topic easier to read?

Another nice video (sorry for spamming but I will continue :D )

Do not play it a saint, bohemian guy!!! :devil:

[Nowi]

My photogallery from Barum Czech rally 2013 at Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2013 [nowi] | RallyLife.cz (http://www.rallylife.cz/barum-czech-rally-zlin-2013-nowi)

[Mirek]

Photo No.9 is great Nowi :-DHere another great video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzmgY9m69k

[dimviii]

look at 12,22 how mini behaves at bad asphalt.

[Mirek]

Is this working for You?
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/5450.html

The best Barum onboard I have watched so far!

[dimviii]

nice driving!

[Mirek]

Great, so here You can find more than 50 onboards from Barum: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

I watched quite a lot of them and what I can say is...

... that Kopecký was all the time correcting pacenotes, especially on SS10 Maják
Example SS10: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/5499.html
... Jakeš looked fully in control, no moments, no over-driving, just one stalled engine in a slow hairpin on Maják on onboards I saw
Example SS3: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/5442.html
... Pech has best camera position and together with spectacular driving his onboards are nicest to see

[Filip]

Is this working for You?
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/5450.html

The best Barum onboard I have watched so far!

Very nice onboard, on 5:40 he made the same mistake as with Mitsubishi few years ago.

[RS]

Pindula night stage with Kopecky is a nice ride: http://www.mediasport.cz/jezdci---rally ... /5465.html (http://www.mediasport.cz/jezdci---rally/kopecky-jan/5465.html)

[Mirek]

One very nice moment from SS13 is here at 6:39 (I was there)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dcin9wKx8N8#t=399

[uranium]

One very nice moment from SS13 is here at 6:39 (I was there)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dcin9wKx8N8#t=399


What exactly head is yours :D

[Mirek]

I'm not visible (left from cameraman) ;)

[mousti]

Nice onboard and for sure the sound is so goooooooooood :D


Beres with the Quattro!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvsGRWYs-E

[stefanvv]

Nice onboard and for sure the sound is so goooooooooood :D


Beres with the Quattro!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvsGRWYs-E
Like a beast in cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nba3Tr_GLZU