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call_me_andrew
2nd March 2013, 06:27
Nothing Earth shattering here.

AP Exclusive: Family told to keep IndyCar, IMS - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/1/ap-exclusive-family-told-to-keep-indycar-ims/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS)

Speedway confirms it is accurate.

INDYCAR: IMS Weighs In On Leaked BCG Report (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-ims-weighs-in-on-leaked-bcg-report)

booger
2nd March 2013, 20:32
Nothing earth shattering? Are you kidding? Just change the way the whole organization is run is all (not that it can't use some changes). But ditch the NBCS deal because they will be promoting F1? (which should actually be a big asset with all the lead-ins to IC races which will only increase viewership). Crunch the season into a back breaking schedule that will kill the poor *******s working on the cars? And, aren't these consultant reports supposed to be kept confidential? I bet the Boston firm had to sign confidentiality agreements prior to beginning work on the project, and if they didn't, somebody really dropped the ball. With a leak like this, to AP (one of the largest media outlets in the world), no less, somebody's ass should be put in a sling. But knowing how those hillbillies in the Hulman-George family operate...maybe not.

booger
2nd March 2013, 20:51
Just saw a nice sidebar on the NBC PGA broadcast. Featured a piece on Graham Rahl golfing with Rickey Fowler, and promoted the race in St. Pete as well...but, oh wait!...IC has been advised to ditch NBCS. Oh, I'm sorry "At Indycar, we don't need no stinking promotion".

call_me_andrew
3rd March 2013, 03:11
Nothing earth shattering? Are you kidding? Just change the way the whole organization is run is all (not that it can't use some changes). But ditch the NBCS deal because they will be promoting F1? (which should actually be a big asset with all the lead-ins to IC races which will only increase viewership). Crunch the season into a back breaking schedule that will kill the poor *******s working on the cars? And, aren't these consultant reports supposed to be kept confidential? I bet the Boston firm had to sign confidentiality agreements prior to beginning work on the project, and if they didn't, somebody really dropped the ball. With a leak like this, to AP (one of the largest media outlets in the world), no less, somebody's ass should be put in a sling. But knowing how those hillbillies in the Hulman-George family operate...maybe not.

Earth shattering's definition requires something to be sold.

FIAT1
3rd March 2013, 13:31
Leak, are you kidding me? That was done on purpose to create a buzz. Waste of money,They should of spend that on purses especially Indy wich in return would create more interest and participants . Stop the phony fiction and open competition where other manufacturers are allowed and everything else will follow.

EagleEye
4th March 2013, 13:27
Leak, are you kidding me? That was done on purpose to create a buzz. Waste of money,They should of spend that on purses especially Indy wich in return would create more interest and participants . Stop the phony fiction and open competition where other manufacturers are allowed and everything else will follow.

Based on the emailed rebuttel that IMS sent out after the leak, it certainly was not intentional. Look for whose head is the next to roll, as this did not sit well with management. People were not happy that this information was leaked.

Your arguement falls flat, "what other manufacturers"?? Reynard? Lola? Eagle? Siwft? I amazed how many of you missed the fact that each and every manufacturer who bid on the new car, did so with an excusivity clause. There is not enough money to support multiple manufacturers.

FIAT1
4th March 2013, 13:34
Based on the emailed rebuttel that IMS sent out after the leak, it certainly was not intentional. Look for whose head is the next to roll, as this did not sit well with management. People were not happy that this information was leaked.
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Right, and you believe them, ok good luck with that. Nothing but silly pr stunt that didn't work. You want study? I will give you one for free: "spec series does not work", and people don't care for it.

FIAT1
4th March 2013, 13:45
Your arguement falls flat, "what other manufacturers"?? Reynard? Lola? Eagle? Siwft? I amazed how many of you missed the fact that each and every manufacturer who bid on the new car, did so with an excusivity clause. There is not enough money to support multiple manufacturers.

Ok , you right , three races playoff will do the trick. Unbelievable.

EagleEye
4th March 2013, 15:02
Right, and you believe them, ok good luck with that. Nothing but silly pr stunt that didn't work. You want study? I will give you one for free: "spec series does not work", and people don't care for it.

If you choose to believe somthing that is false, that is your own choice. They fired most everyone from the PR department (including the lovely Ms. Liz Markle....) so there is no one in place to plan for such a stunt. The plan was to review the study, discuss options, then proceed. That said, I have mixed feelings of using such outside "consultants" but these guys did present their approach quite well at the meeting at the speedway. They were quite keen on using the NFL, not NASCAR, for comparisons...

I hope NASCAR does not find out that "spec series do not work"...(and I'm not a fan, but a lot of people care for it!)

FIAT1
4th March 2013, 15:42
If you choose to believe somthing that is false, that is your own choice. They fired most everyone from the PR department (including the lovely Ms. Liz Markle....) so there is no one in place to plan for such a stunt. The plan was to review the study, discuss options, then proceed. That said, I have mixed feelings of using such outside "consultants" but these guys did present their approach quite well at the meeting at the speedway. They were quite keen on using the NFL, not NASCAR, for comparisons...

I hope NASCAR does not find out that "spec series do not work"...(and I'm not a fan, but a lot of people care for it!)

OK ,problem solved .Spec cars are here , now that playoff will be in place,only thing left is a phony story with fixed outcome, couple of big crashes with multiple cars to have a big one and you got it made.Yep,that's going to generate interest and huge crowd. Wish you the best with it.

FIAT1
4th March 2013, 15:52
If you choose to believe somthing that is false, that is your own choice.


I strongly believe that was done on purpose and I think it's a good move, but study completely missed what Indycar fans are all about. I'm afraid being nascar open wheel won't cut it ,as it was tried before. I do appreciate your input and feedback ,but strongly believe you and others who believe in gimmicks instead of sophisticated product are completely wrong therefore we respectfully desagre on the matter.

EagleEye
4th March 2013, 17:29
I strongly believe that was done on purpose and I think it's a good move, but study completely missed what Indycar fans are all about. I'm afraid being nascar open wheel won't cut it ,as it was tried before. I do appreciate your input and feedback ,but strongly believe you and others who believe in gimmicks instead of sophisticated product are completely wrong therefore we respectfully desagre on the matter.

Again, you can choose to believe what you want, but it was not done on purpose. They don't even have PR people to plan such a thing!! If this leak was done on purpose, the ramifications behind the scenes would not be taking place now....

And, I said I was not a fan of NASCAR, though the ratings show quite a few people are. I wish we had multiple suppliers like we did before the split. I miss having a new chassis/engine/electronics/ each year. I really do. But, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY!!!

We have, what we have.

FIAT1
4th March 2013, 18:15
Again, you can choose to believe what you want, but it was not done on purpose.

I desagree! With a leak they can negotiate for more money now when they want to sale it ,or maybe report shows something completely different. Who knows but I find it suspicious when something like that can be leaked as easily. I do admire you for being loyal soldier ,cheer on!




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Chris R
7th March 2013, 18:33
I dont see the benefit of leaking the WHOLE thing. If it was more finely crafted I might buy the intentional leak angle. I am more inclined to believe they have some employee relations issues due to all the turmoil and someone just acted on their own, for their own reasons (which may be that they thought the publicity would be good...)....

I think the troubling thing is that they needed a consulting group to arrive at those conclusions. There is some interesting stuff there - but the fact they felt they had to pay something like a million bucks to get these opinions seems, well, a waste..... The company needs do a better job of hiring and then have more consistent faith in its people and constituents rather than wasting $$ on consultants.