Pikes Peak 2013

[Humber]

Dallenbach and Millen with Hyundai are to team for Pikes Peak 2013.

Paul Dallenbach To Drive For Rhys Millen Racing At Pikes Peak (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1082199_paul-dallenbach-to-drive-for-rhys-millen-racing-at-pikes-peak)

[A FONDO]

Will the track be all-tarmac this year?

[vino_93]

I think yes.

Dayraut will be back, but not with Dacia this time : it's Mini which whill help him ! But the car will be still based on his Tork Engineering chassis.
For the moment we don't know if Dumas will restart. I hope yes :)

[TyPat107]

Yes the road was completely paved weeks after the 2011 event and last year was the first all Tarmac event.

They changed some rules this year and no co-drivers are allowed. They think co-drivers were the cause of so many incidents last year, and not allowing complete rookies to bring 1000hp cars. :rolleyes:

[Gregor-y]

Maybe a better standard for cages would be better than removing co drivers. The rookies in big power cars just makes sense, though.

[TyPat107]

PPIHC has many stupid rules.
Another one being that all belts must be 3" wide. So the FIA approved belts in my car that are also in the factory skoda and vw cars, with 2" lap belts are not allowed. But again a half-assed lightweight cage in a beginners high powered evo is ok...

[Tom206wrc]

Have you heard/read about the rumour of Peugeot sending a transformed 208 body(maybe with hybrid engine)to Pikes Peak :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

OFFICIAL today according to AutoHebdo, worldrallyman Sébastien Loeb will try to break record on the Pike Peak in june with a Peugeot 208 !!! :D

[Kielder]

Have you heard/read about the rumour of Peugeot sending a transformed 208 body(maybe with hybrid engine)to Pikes Peak :confused:

I haven't seen this thread. You were right! :up:

[stefanvv]

It's not racing, but great video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Mk3IwEBiY

[Rallyewerk]

Pikes Peak was great in the unpaved, old days.
Now on asphalt it´s still spectacular but with hybrids or even full electric cars it´s plain boring...

[A FONDO]

Electric engines are the future. Better than internal combustion in every aspect. It's good to see internationally famous event allowing so many prototypes.

[Rallyewerk]

Not sure if I believe that electric is the future.
80% of cars in New York 100 years ago ran electric and one of the reasons why the didn´t´make it in the long run, was the amount of tragic and fatal accidents because of lack of audible sound (Loud pipes do safe lives!).

Today we still have the problem of properly storing the power and the amount required for a race distance longer than Pikes Peak.

But we´ll see...

[Humber]

Monster to run 'Toyota 86' at Pikes Peak?

Monster Tajima - Speedhunters (http://www.speedhunters.com/tag/monstertajima/)

[TyPat107]

From the rear shot of the suspension it looks like that's the old car with ft86-ish body mounted on it

[EightGear]

Peugeot considering Pikes Peak return with purpose-built 208 - Other news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106409)

[Gregor-y]

I may need to schedule a family visit in Colorado to coincide with Pike's Peak this year.

[makinen_fan]

Peugeot has confirmed that Sebastian will drive a 208 in Pikes Peak this summer
Peugeot Sport - RALLYE - news-1063-peugeot-returns-to-pikes-peak (http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/rallye/news-1063-peugeot-returns-to-pikes-peak.html)

[Kielder]

Peugeot has confirmed that Sebastian will drive a 208 in Pikes Peak this summer
Peugeot Sport - RALLYE - news-1063-peugeot-returns-to-pikes-peak (http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/rallye/news-1063-peugeot-returns-to-pikes-peak.html)

The official annoucement says that Peugeot has led to Pikes Peak joining forces with such key partners as Total, Red Bull and Michelin. So, Vialatte's design could be closer:

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31471_10200378778785209_1355147174_n.jpg

Sincerely, I know a better livery for the car:

http://www.weiss-motorsport.com/media/galerie/405_T16/Peugeot_405_T16_Pikes_Peak.jpg

[Kielder]

This is the 208 GTi for Nurburgring. If we add the Red Bull colours, maybe we'll get a better idea of its livery.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGSROWCCEAA6OyB.jpg:large

Peugeot has also uploaded this image on Twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGcxWnzCQAA61Vb.jpg:large

[dimviii]

thats a bit better
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/600213_499376530112007_311240836_n.jpg

[Gregor-y]

The official annoucement says that Peugeot has led to Pikes Peak joining forces with such key partners as Total, Red Bull and Michelin. So, Vialatte's design could be closer:

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31471_10200378778785209_1355147174_n.jpg

Just remove the number 3 on the wing or all the NASCAR types will get upset.

[It's JM]

In reference to the "co-drivers no longer being allowed" rule, that will not stop accidents. A crash could happen with or without a co-driver. Instead of that, they should not allow first timers competing in the event with high powered cars.

[TyPat107]

In reference to the "co-drivers no longer being allowed" rule, that will not stop accidents. A crash could happen with or without a co-driver. Instead of that, they should not allow first timers competing in the event with high powered cars.

To the last part... EXACTLY!!! Granted I would have missed out co-driving in 2011. But in hindsight the guy I was with had no business being behind the wheel of anything going up that mountain.

[dimviii]

some photos :eek:
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-66339300-1365770725.jpghttp://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-79131000-1365770724.jpghttp://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-89847500-1365770723.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

On monday the full car will be unveiled ;)

[TyPat107]

I just hope they use "enough" tire. I believe Jean Phillipe Dayraunt used Pirelli 18"wrc tires in 2011 in the Dacia and they were tearing through them. If I remember right they had to fly new tires in from Italy over night for race day. I followed them around during practice like a puppy and their tire engineer didn't really care for me much. The other cars in unlimited were using 20" tires which held up to the power and the road much better.

[Kielder]

:eek: :eek:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/758347725.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/208-1-e1366013817762.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/208-2-e1366013883647.jpg

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzo0ekXikt8

[adr17]

some photos :eek:
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-66339300-1365770725.jpghttp://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-79131000-1365770724.jpghttp://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-2088-0-89847500-1365770723.jpg

strange the rollcage / spaceframe hasnt been painted looks a bit unproffessional for peugeot

the rest does look nice

[danon]

strange the rollcage / spaceframe hasnt been painted looks a bit unproffessional for peugeot

the rest does look nice

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5910/95904164.jpg

[megadrive]

devine car, wuth a devine driver on the wheels

[big_sw2000]

Some more info on Loeb's monster Official: Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak - BBC Top Gear (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/peugeot-208-t16-pikes-peak-2013-04-23)

[Humber]

Other sites report 22'' wheels. Peugeot Pikes Peak Racer Gets 875-HP, Giant Wing | AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/04/peugeot-pikes-peak-racer-gets-875-hp-giant-wing.html)

[makinen_fan]

Pikes peak will be streamed online live by Red Bull Media House, full story here.
The Pikes Peak International Hill Climb To Broadcast Live Stream of The 91st Race To The Clouds To Viewers Around The World on RedBull.TV | PPIHC (http://www.ppihc.com/updates/2013/04/23/the-pikes-peak-international-hill-climb-to-broadcast-live-stream-of-the-91st-race-to-the-clouds-to-viewers-around-the-world-on-redbull-tv/)

I hope this is kind of kickstart for Red Bull and extend their coverage for the WRC for live footage on-line soon

[Gregor-y]

Will they have split times? :o

[dimviii]

small video from 208 t16
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=508979162491933


and some specs
https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2 xhcmdlL2Nsa2Rwcy5qcGcUsAQUrAIAFgASAA&s=dn-JRnUN9W7vSHIloTiMEsLL8_7PyUf2Pyhp4cqPR6k

[dimviii]

:eek:
http://www.leblogauto.com/zenphoto/cache/peugeot__2013__Peugeot_208_T16_Pikes_Peak__P-20130422-00364_960.jpg
http://www.leblogauto.com/zenphoto/cache/peugeot__2013__Peugeot_208_T16_Pikes_Peak__P-20130422-00373_960.jpg
http://www.leblogauto.com/zenphoto/cache/peugeot__2013__Peugeot_208_T16_Pikes_Peak__P-20130422-00370_960.jpg

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgraHR0cDovL3N0YXRpYy5vdy5seS9waG90b3 Mvbm9ybWFsLzFYOWFxLmpwZxSwBBSsAgAWABIA&s=VwR9FlooZkK8o1RT48iSOB7tz2lQNfqNfKEdT1VlMbc

[Plan9]

Is someone really entering a Countryman this year?

[Kielder]

Grégory Guilvert driving the 208 T16:
AUTO : Peugeot prépare Pikes Peak (http://video.lequipe.fr/video/auto-moto/auto-peugeot-prepare-pikes-peak/?sig=540d2e10214s&)

[makinen_fan]

Amazing sounding beast!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=452782554798894

[vino_93]

Is someone really entering a Countryman this year?
I think Dayrault ;) He drove Dacia last two years. The Mini is based on this car, with somes changes (80 kg less, ...)
Jean-Philippe Dayrault - photo © Jean-Philippe Dayrault (http://www.flagworld.com/photos/v/Sources+Externes/Logos+-+Photos+-+Videos/Photos/Jean-Philippe+Dayrault+-+photo+__+Jean-Philippe+Dayrault+.jpg.html)

I think last year he was leading the race, but had a problem during the last kilometers.

[Kielder]

It's rumoured that Seb will test the Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak at Mont Ventoux next month. It makes sense.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A8d-QTp0gtU/TNrXVz5ryRI/AAAAAAAAAQY/E0ZS1uiB7dU/s1600/Ventoux.large2.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/923389_569937013036812_1101336899_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tpxXyVbGym8/TptGnwowDJI/AAAAAAAABSI/MsWGYMt6oWw/s1600/mont_ventoux_6.jpg

[big_sw2000]

Europe's own Pike Peak

[vino_93]

it's not a rumor, it's confirmed !

A rumor is that Simon Pagenaud will enter the race with an official Honda !

[Kielder]

Best video so far to hear the sound of the beast:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6R3-QAPvKY&feature=player_embedded

[Kielder]

To concrete a bit more, Loeb will the 208 T16 Pikes Peak at the last 6 kms (https://maps.google.es/maps?saddr=D974&daddr=D974&hl=gl&sll=44.174248,5.279939&sspn=0.004109,0.010568&geocode=FY21oQIdTChRAA%3BFa4IogIdHI1QAA&t=h&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=17&z=17) of the Mont Ventoux between 12 & 15 of May.

[vino_93]

Well it's confirmed that Simon Pagenaud will drive in Pikes Peak this year with an official Honda. 10 official cars will be enterend in different classes. The cars will be developped by HPD.

[Kielder]

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z374/viru0043/Peugeot%20208%20T16%20-%20RaceCar%20Engineering/Dibujo1_zpse16334c1.jpg
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z374/viru0043/Peugeot%20208%20T16%20-%20RaceCar%20Engineering/Dibujo2_zps6006e40e.jpg
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z374/viru0043/Peugeot%20208%20T16%20-%20RaceCar%20Engineering/Dibujo3_zps31ec93f2.jpg
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z374/viru0043/Peugeot%20208%20T16%20-%20RaceCar%20Engineering/Dibujo4_zpsa7ed296d.jpg
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z374/viru0043/Peugeot%20208%20T16%20-%20RaceCar%20Engineering/Dibujo5_zps5a9b79f8.jpg

Thanks, viru0043.http://s1186.photobucket.com/user/viru0043/profile/

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJz6yhCCQAEV3KK.jpg:large

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDcGROY51ZA&feature=youtu.be

[Kielder]

It really looks it comes from the future:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDfF8rbhorE

[stefanvv]

As some engineer said - "The only restriction in building Pikes Peak car is your imagination"

[Humber]

Rod Millen to have a crack at Pikes Peak EV record in Toyota. Rod Millen aims at new Pikes Peak EV record in updated TMG EV P002 (http://www.gizmag.com/rod-millen-toyota-ev-pikes-peak/27403/)

[Kielder]

Stunning livery for 208 T16 Pikes Peak:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKIiH-LCUAAgrrH.jpg:large

[sopwith21]

That's how racing ought to be!

[sopwith21]

As some engineer said - "The only restriction in building Pikes Peak car is your imagination"

That's how racing ought to be!

[Kielder]

http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/876/12vgri.jpg
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/770030021.png?1368521336

[Kielder]

The Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak isn't alone today in Mont Ventoux:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNvxcxCQAAfIsE.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNyVD4CYAAWKBF.jpg:large

[Kielder]

It really appears great on tarmac (we won't ever know on gravel :( ):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKN_3xTCEAAI8_A.jpg:large

[makinen_fan]

Short clip
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4862272163146&set=vb.202238866955&type=2&theater

[Delta_HF]

Very nice, ready for take off !! :D

[Rasantes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BMKFnJshpT4

La 208 Pikes Peak en essais (Photos) (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/la-208-pikes-peak-en-essais-photos/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/208-pikes-peak-2013/14.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/208-pikes-peak-2013/15.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/208-pikes-peak-2013/20.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/208-pikes-peak-2013/06.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/208-pikes-peak-2013/21.jpg

[Kielder]

http://images.midilibre.fr/images/2013/05/14/surnommee-la-bestiale-cette-voiture-surpuissante-a-875_580657_950x475.jpg
http://images.midilibre.fr/images/2013/05/14/jusqu-a-demain-mercredi-15-mai-le-pilote-alsacien-roule-sur_580660_950x475.jpg
http://images.midilibre.fr/images/2013/05/14/magnifique-vue-hier-apres-le-lever-du-soleil-avec-le_580662_950x475.jpg
http://images.midilibre.fr/images/2013/05/14/apres-chaque-essai-les-ingenieurs-de-l-ecurie-automobile_580663_950x475.jpg
http://images.midilibre.fr/images/2013/05/14/une-peugeot-405-aux-essais-avec-loeb_580666_950x475.jpg

[Majks21]

The peugeot 208 will kill the scene :D

[Rasantes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M54d4bhzZ64

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrreelMW7o&feature=youtu.be

[makinen_fan]

Can anyone that understand French explain a bit what Seb is saying in the video? Anything significant?

I do not know about you guys, but the sound of 405 is a bit superior for me, especially due to the manual gearchanges.

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKPivJ0CcAAaWm0.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKQtd3DCMAETY_n.jpg:large

[Kielder]

Best and longest video so far of the test:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Dv3lqxH6I

[Kielder]

More videos are continuing to arrive. This is shorter, but as good or even better:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoyNlI-Cluw

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKQ3vmYCMAEHQCy.jpg:large


Watch at 2:4:p



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g06ggJBPiI

[vino_93]

who was in the 405 ?

[Rasantes]

Day 2 of test.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKEmE7-wpSM&feature=youtu.be

[stefanvv]

Serious commitment from Loeb for the Pikes Peak :)

[Delta_HF]

Loeb what a guy, "can we borrow your mountain to do some testing on" ? No problem ! :cool:

[vino_93]

I don't know if it's Eurosport World or only EUrosport France, but Pikes Peak will be broadcast live :p

[DoubleD]

Now imagine a Red Bull Sponsored/Promoted series of 3 events, Pikes Peak, Ventoux and another...5 manufactures, 2 cars each all built along the lines of the 208.
im dreaming, but it could be the most exciting TV friendly Motorsport ever...

[Kielder]

Official video of the tests at Mont Ventoux:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz7bG2cmWyw

[Hazza555)]

That is a just whole new level of awesome...

[garais22]

Andris Dambis build his electric Supercar which is very very fast
Dambis: ''Our Aim is to Beat the Time Record of Pikes Peak International Hill Climb with Our 100% Electric eO PP01.''

Here it is - Electric eO PP01 (http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/cits/582-dambis-prezente-savu-superauto/)

[A FONDO]

Andris Dambis build his electric Supercar which is very very fast
Dambis: ''Our Aim is to Beat the Time Record of Pikes Peak International Hill Climb with Our 100% Electric eO PP01.''

Here it is - Electric eO PP01 (http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/cits/582-dambis-prezente-savu-superauto/)

Looks good. How many kW is the engine? Big respect to everybody working on electric vehicules.

[sindroms]

Looks good. How many kW is the engine? Big respect to everybody working on electric vehicules.

400 kW. Some more info - eO Electric Supercar to Conquer Pikes Peak (http://driveeo.com/blog/racing/eo-electric-supercar-pikes-peak/)

[vino_93]

Romain Dumas will start with a Norma proto.

[noel157]

Romain Dumas will start with a Norma proto.

Nissan engined Vino?
Didn't he do it before in a 911?

[vino_93]

Yes he did it in 2013, and finished 2nd, with a 911 not really well on this track.

The car is a Norma, with a Honda engine (650 ph). The car is doing 580 kg (580 kg / 650 ch, that's better than the 208 875 / 875 or the Mini of Dayrault : 900 / 900).

Article (in french) : «On part pour gagner la course à Pikes Peak» - 30/05/2013 (http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2013/05/30/1638017-on-part-pour-gagner-la-course-a-pikes-peak.html)

[Rasantes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzSqeHSUp_4&feature=youtu.be

[Kielder]

It looks easy to assemble. Will Peugeot Sport make the blueprints for the car available free so it can be replicated by us in a 3D printer? :D

[Kielder]

Loeb is already in Colorado:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/936136_561804913870396_1405412819_n.jpg


Not only the car is there too, but also Elena, who is helping him to make the pacenotes:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431843_561814540536100_1623846676_n.jpg

[TyPat107]

They had the car on Revolutions Performance dyno today, which is known as "the heartbreaker" because of its low reading.

The car made 817 hp and 635 ft-lb which is the most powerful AWD car they have had on their dyno. I find that interesting because Jean Phillipe-Dayraunt had the Dacia on that dyno just before our appointment there in 2011 and JpD's team claimed 940-ish horsepower but made Revolutions performance sign non disclosure acts.

and why pace notes? Just to help Loeb learn the road?

[Kielder]

They had the car on Revolutions Performance dyno today, which is known as "the heartbreaker" because of its low reading.

The car made 817 hp and 635 ft-lb which is the most powerful AWD car they have had on their dyno. I find that interesting because Jean Phillipe-Dayraunt had the Dacia on that dyno just before our appointment there in 2011 and JpD's team claimed 940-ish horsepower but made Revolutions performance sign non disclosure acts.

and why pace notes? Just to help Loeb learn the road?

I know some drivers who does hillclimbs and rallying that take notes too. The more information you have about the road the less dangerous it is. One of them told me he can "hear" his co-driver when he is driving the hillclimb.

Pics from Colorado Springs:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969617_10151375400771362_1883437558_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/7846_10151375178711362_128870927_n.jpg

[TyPat107]

I wonder if Pikes peak rules hasn't banned co-drivers this year if he would have had Elena in the car with him.
No co-driver allowed is a major reason I didn't enter PP this year. But the rest of Colorado's hill climbs do allow them.
I really hope Lands End challenges Pikes Peak next year. That road is just as spectacular as PPIHC but all gravel still.

[WillG]

They had the car on Revolutions Performance dyno today, which is known as "the heartbreaker" because of its low reading.

The car made 817 hp and 635 ft-lb which is the most powerful AWD car they have had on their dyno. I find that interesting because Jean Phillipe-Dayraunt had the Dacia on that dyno just before our appointment there in 2011 and JpD's team claimed 940-ish horsepower but made Revolutions performance sign non disclosure acts.

and why pace notes? Just to help Loeb learn the road?


According to Revolutions Performance this is a new AWD record so I doubt the Dacia was kicking out that much power.

I was on the RP Facebook page earlier to ask for some more info about the test and apparently the 817hp refers to 'wheel horse power' (whp) rather than brake horse power. The BHP figure is actually higher than then whp figure and would probably still be up near the 875bhp mark.

Incredible stats when you consider the test facility for RP is at 6,000ft in Colorado! The owners themselves seem pretty blown away by the performance.

[TyPat107]

Sorry I was insinuating that the Dacia numbers were inflated.
We always use WHP numbers over here, is that not the same for over there?

[dimviii]

Sorry I was insinuating that the Dacia numbers were inflated.
We always use WHP numbers over here, is that not the same for over there?

in Europe we use whp and bhp.Dyno Dynamics are very good dynamometers,and you dont get easy big numbers at them.For the 208 the impressive is the numbers at 6000 ft.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMMHkSDCcAE2QmO.jpg:large

[WillG]

Sorry I was insinuating that the Dacia numbers were inflated.
We always use WHP numbers over here, is that not the same for over there?

Would be really interesting to know what WHP the other Unlimited cars are running at 6000ft. Most of them are claiming to have more BHP and torque than the Peugeot but I'm guessing the claims are for sea level and they won't have the 208's trick turbos! :)

In terms of actually putting the power usefully onto the tarmac AWD with enormous slicks will always be the best solution and I'm sure some of the more powerful RWD cars will be wasting a fair amount in lost traction etc....

[makinen_fan]

Practice day results are out:

http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/858/c30xh.jpg

End of day 1. #PeugeotPikesPeak 208T16PikesPeak/S.Loeb Best time. 4 runs. http://twitter.yfrog.com/nuc30xhj (http://twitter.yfrog.com/nuc30xhj?sa=0)

Seems that Seb will win by a margin

[WillG]

Amazing, anyone know if that's quicker than normal for the bottom section?

[TyPat107]

If its the exact same section (you positive it's the bottom?..). He is 1 minute faster that Monster's qualifying time from 2011 at 4:33.804.
But there was dirt on the section that year.

holy fricken cow!

still looking for 2012...

last year Jean Phillipe Dayraut was fastest with a 3:54

so again holy fricken cow!

[Mirek]

Are there some times also for Dumas, Dayrault or Horeliks?

[WillG]

There's a good video of Loeb testing at Pikes Peak raceway but unfortunately I can't share the link as I'm new to this forum!

Search for "Sebastian Loeb Peugeot 208 T16 1st practice in Colorado for the Pikes Peak International hilclimb" and you'll find it, was uploaded today

[WillG]

If its the exact same section (you positive it's the bottom?..). He is 1 minute faster that Monster's qualifying time from 2011 at 4:33.804.
But there was dirt on the section that year.

holy fricken cow!

still looking for 2012...

last year Jean Phillipe Dayraut was fastest with a 3:54

so again holy fricken cow!

In the picture of the time sheet it says "bottom" on the first column so I'm guessing its the first section. I don't know much about the route so has this changed over the last couple of years?

sounds epically quick considering Loeb has never driven the road before!!

[TyPat107]

In the picture of the time sheet it says "bottom" on the first column so I'm guessing its the first section. I don't know much about the route so has this changed over the last couple of years?

sounds epically quick considering Loeb has never driven the road before!!

The main change was finishing paving it just after the 2011 event. Otherwise it should be the same section.

And I agree to go nearly 30sec faster than Rhys Millen who knows the road exceptionally is incredible on his first day out. Getting excited now and considering going to watch either the race or Fridays practice which is the unlimited and time attack class qualifying.

has anyone else here ever been to the Pikes peak hill climb? Just wondering because its such a crazy experience.

[WillG]

The main change was finishing paving it just after the 2011 event. Otherwise it should be the same section.

And I agree to go nearly 30sec faster than Rhys Millen who knows the road exceptionally is incredible on his first day out. Getting excited now and considering going to watch either the race or Fridays practice which is the unlimited and time attack class qualifying.

has anyone else here ever been to the Pikes peak hill climb? Just wondering because its such a crazy experience.

I've never been but would love to come over from the UK and go one year - we now have a 6 week old baby which scuppered my chances this year (think my wife would have shot me if I'd announced I was heading to a hillclimb event in the US!!). Who knows, maybe next year....

It's great there's more coverage on the TV and Internet this year though so hopefully I'll be able to soak up some of the atmosphere and I have a feeling the event is going to get more popular in Europe from this point forward. It's certainly seen more detailed coverage in magazines and in a few newspapers thanks to the inclusion of Seb Loeb.

I'd love to think that other European manufacturers will look at the event as a good way to boost their brand for a relatively small financial outlay, especially compared to full race series formats like endurance racing and the WRC.

[WillG]

Day 2 results are now out - after 6 runs Loeb was quickest again with a time of 3.42.10....

Second was Dallenbach with 4.24.96 ahead of Millen with 4.26.98....

43 seconds quicker than the field is unreal, are they not pushing their cars do you think?!

[makinen_fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZVOvh6OtY

[vino_93]

Are there some times also for Dumas, Dayrault or Horeliks?
Dumas wasn't here, he tested for Le Mans.
Dayrault not here, no budget ... he focus on race, and will do some test in a track (don't remember if it's in France or in the USA).

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMWSnfICUAAZNbX.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMWcaGOCIAEM7_d.png:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMWcx1DCYAAWeHP.png:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMWcjzmCQAAnNhO.png:large


There's still some improvement possible (or impossible...):

http://tp.forocoches.com/foro/attachment.php?attachmentid=1580662&stc=1&d=1370476223

[Kielder]

Very interesting Loeb's first impressions about the hill climb:

"Up there, all you can see is the horizon" (http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/News/Sebastien-Loeb-Up-there-all-you-can-see-is-the-horizon)

[makinen_fan]

Nice quality video from the test days


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHsBMSWw2ZM&feature=youtu.be

[WillG]

Great video. Loeb put in some incredible times during the first 2 test days and it shows the value of the preparation both he and Peugeot have put in over the last couple of months.


The thing that really strikes me about the car is just how alive it looks, especially in the corners. Nothing dramatic but just instant turn in and staggering amounts of downforce and grip. It literally slingshots out of each corner with seemingly no wasted effort!


For me AWD is just better than 4WD on a hillclimb like this because of the extra grip in mid and post corner - especially when your car needs 800bhp plus because of the altitude. I wonder if Millen is struggling to use his 900bhp through just the rear wheels?


Will be interesting to see how Dayraut and Dumas get on. I don't think Dayrauts car will be as we'll sorted as the Peugeot and I have a feeling he'll loose more power as he climbs. Dumas is for me the real challenge although 600bhp through the rear wheels of a 550kg prototype could be hairy. And if it rains its game over for him......

[TyPat107]

I love it! In the video posted above (before red bull took it down) a few seconds in Seb takes a big cut on a right hand turn at an area called "Bottomless Pit" and the only thing I can think of was the drivers meeting when the race director said "now you rally guys, no cutting the inside of turns and dragging crap out on the road for those behind you." Brilliant.

[makinen_fan]

I noticed that too and thought that probably he will be the only one cutting corners. But from what you say, this will be forbidden in the race then? Will it lead to exclusion if someone cuts corners?

[WillG]

Taking the apex of the corner is common in rallying (and perfectly legal) so will be second nature to Seb. I don't see why this would be different for a hill climb like Pikes Peak, even though it could be construed as corner cutting. Definitely the quickest way up the hill as long as the bottom of the car holds out!

[dimviii]

I love it! In the video posted above (before red bull took it down) a few seconds in Seb takes a big cut on a right hand turn at an area called "Bottomless Pit" and the only thing I can think of was the drivers meeting when the race director said "now you rally guys, no cutting the inside of turns and dragging crap out on the road for those behind you." Brilliant.

this right turn you mean?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMaJLlqCMAI7o51.jpg

[Mirek]

It's simple. If You don't drivers to cut, put there some obstacle. It's common thing in rallying (at least here).

[TyPat107]

I noticed that too and thought that probably he will be the only one cutting corners. But from what you say, this will be forbidden in the race then? Will it lead to exclusion if someone cuts corners?

no exclusion, merely a request from the race director. If it becomes a problem they will place hay bales on the inside


this right turn you mean?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMaJLlqCMAI7o51.jpg

exactly!


It's simple. If You don't drivers to cut, put there some obstacle. It's common thing in rallying (at least here).

In 2011 they placed hay bales on the inside of some turns. Some were present for practice in a few turns others appeared on race day after they figured out where people would cut.
Cutting is common in all other events I have done.

there were other stupid things said by the race director at that meeting. My favorite was
"Those of you with co-drivers must practice with the co-driver in the car. If you take a run and its magically 30seconds faster than your previous run, we are going to know something is up." Basically he believed co-drivers were merely ballast.

[Mirek]

Interesting, thanks. In my opinion for this type of race it's better to prevent cutting. The cars have enormous power and there are also motorbike riders. Especially for them the dirt can be very dangerous. But sure the obstacles shall be there already in trainings or they can be more dangerous than the dirt.

[makinen_fan]

Interesting, thanks. In my opinion for this type of race it's better to prevent cutting. The cars have enormous power and there are also motorbike riders. Especially for them the dirt can be very dangerous. But sure the obstacles shall be there already in trainings or they can be more dangerous than the dirt.

I agree with you that the hay bales should be placed beforehand. Already Seb said that he recce a lot of times the route and tried to memorise this well, but I suppose they will have the chance again the day of the race to recce the route one again?
Btw is there another day coming up? Maybe on the whole route at once?

[TyPat107]

I agree with you that the hay bales should be placed beforehand. Already Seb said that he recce a lot of times the route and tried to memorise this well, but I suppose they will have the chance again the day of the race to recce the route one again?
Btw is there another day coming up? Maybe on the whole route at once?

You can recce the road at any time you feel like paying the toll. Pikes Peak is a huge money maker and because of this the only time the road is shut down is for the race itself.

Practice for the event is the week before stating on Wednesday. Because they keep the road open for regular business, practice happens before the open the rad each day. Drivers must be on the mountain starting about 3am to get set up. Barring any problems, like overnight snow or the occasional boulder falling on the road, Practice is run from the time the sun illuminates the road until 9-10am at which time practice stops immediately and the road is opened. The hill is broken into 3 sections and you switch sections each day Wednesday through Friday. When your section is at the bottom, your fastest time is used as qualifying for run order on race day. So you never get to run the road in your race car all at once for practice.

this adds all sorts of challenges to the event because on race day things don't really get going until 8:30-9:00. So the road temp is completely different for practice than it is for when you race. So if you had perfect tires on practice days, they are probably too soft and you are going to burn them off partway up the mountain on race day.

its really funny because as a hill climb, the event is based around a single run but people who have done it describe it as an endurance event because of the crazy schedule.

[WillG]

I believe there are some further test days coming up this between 14th-16th June in which Loeb will be taking part

[WillG]

Based on Loebs recent test run times for the bottom and top sections, any ideas on how quickly he'll complete the entire course?

His fastest bottom section time was 3mins 29 seconds and fastest top section time was 3mins 42 seconds......

Did the tyre test cover the entire course over the 2 sections or did they miss a bit out? I'm guessing that must be the case!!

[TyPat107]

A lot of what I know about pikes peak comes from a friend of mine who lives for the PPIHC at a grassroots level this is his and his wife's blog. As for background on this team, Dave and Allison held the hill record in the time attack class until Rhys's dad rod took it back two years ago. I would contend this husband and wife pair are the fastest on the hill per dollar spent. They don't have the budget like the big teams for the extra testing days, and more than once they have stayed up all night swapping in used engines to make it to practice the next day.http://racekern.com/pikes-peak-2013-before/

apparently as Allison mentions, Rhys is having some tire issues and the road is in need of repair before the race.

[igi]

A lot of what I know about pikes peak comes from a friend of mine who lives for the PPIHC at a grassroots level this is his and his wife's blog. As for background on this team, Dave and Allison held the hill record in the time attack class until Rhys's dad rod took it back two years ago. I would contend this husband and wife pair are the fastest on the hill per dollar spent. They don't have the budget like the big teams for the extra testing days, and more than once they have stayed up all night swapping in used engines to make it to practice the next day.http://racekern.com/pikes-peak-2013-before/

apparently as Allison mentions, Rhys is having some tire issues and the road is in need of repair before the race.

This picture from blog is great... Taking a picture with a phone :)

http://racekern.com/Kernracing/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/loeb_yust.jpg

[Kielder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM3JNg5zxus

[WillG]

Anyone heard anything on the times for this weekends test runs??

[Delta_HF]

Did see this floating around. :s mokin: :)
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn189/spinningbackKick/B9186EAE-CB0E-4F68-90EC-4CFD72086FC7-1716-0000005B3B470BFB_zps2400731e.jpg

[WillG]

Thanks but think these were from the last tyre test, wonder if we can find any of the updated times from this weekend

[WillG]

Test timings are now up on the PPIHC website (I'm can post the link because I'm only on 13 posts!!)

[TyPat107]

http://www.ppihc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/June-15th-Testing-Times-Combined.pdf

loeb only took 2 runs and took off another 3 seconds on the bottom section from the last practice day. Absolutely incredible.

[WillG]

Loeb quickest again today by a mile:

Loeb 3.30.768
Millen 3.54.835
Dumas 4.00.148
Dayraut 4.01.018
Dallenbach 4.16.113

[WillG]

Here are the times:

powered by LiveTiming.net (http://livetiming.net/ppihc/)

[TyPat107]

The guy who went off in his NSX twice last year has gone off again this year in his new tube framed turbo V8 NSX. And they think allowing co-drivers causes wrecks, but not rookies in 1000hp cars... :rolleyes:

[WillG]

The guy who went off in his NSX twice last year has gone off again this year in his new tube framed turbo V8 NSX. And they think allowing co-drivers causes wrecks, but not rookies in 1000hp cars... :rolleyes:

It scares me that people's turn up with 1000bhp cars that have been put together in their garage - Amazing engineering feats but cars have to be developed well on so many levels to handle that sort of power and be drive-able. The stakes at somewhere like Pikes Peak are massive!

[WillG]

Here's What's Left Of Cody Loveland's Crashed 1000HP Pikes Peak NSX (http://jalopnik.com/heres-whats-left-of-cody-lovelands-crashed-1000hp-pi-574109868)



The remains of Lovelands NSX from today's practice, very scary. Thank God he walked away ok.

[WillG]

The below was taken from Lovelands Facebook page:

"2nd corner in, the rear upper control arm failed sending me violently into large boulders at 8+mph (ED: He probably meant 80+ mph.), followed by a massive flame and panicked escape. I'm fine. Light a few eyelashes, an eyebrow, and some ghoatie. The car burned for three minutes and it's looking grim. Thanks everyone for the support, we will tear it down today and see if there's hope.P"

crazy crazy crazy!

[Mirek]

Oh, good he's ok.

[WillG]

Pat Doran Pikes Peak Hill Climb Wreck - YouTube (http://youtu.be/c515YLpOvAc)

link to a video of Pat Dorans crash in today's practice. Apparently he's still looking to enter the race and the RS200 should be ok. Scary how the tail stepped out at what must have been 80+ mph - and that he walked away!

[TyPat107]

My friends Dave and Alllison from the blog above said they took Pat and his crew to their shop and they think everything's should be set to go for Pat to drive again tomorrow.Glad that Cody is ok as well but honestly the USAC needs to step in before he hurts himself badly.What a phenomenal time by Loeb.

[WillG]

Live timings from qualifying just came in (see below). Loeb quickest by some margin:


1. Loebs 3.26.727 seconds (90 mph average speed)
2. Dumas 3.50.372 (81mph av speed)
3. Millen 3.51.814 (80 mph av speed)
4. Dayraut 3.57.968 (78 mph av speed)


powered by LiveTiming.net (http://livetiming.net/ppihc/?Class=Unlimited)

[TyPat107]

Is that all runs or was that just the first?

[makinen_fan]

WOW! more than 10% higher average speed! the record will be well broken if it keeps going like this

[Mirek]

Now

Loeb 3:26,1
Dumas 3:43,5
Dayrault 3:55,2

Millen not yet in second run.

[makinen_fan]

Pat Doran has withdrawn from the race, from his fb account:

After a mechanical breakage going into a corner causing the car to leave the road, I decided enough was enough, someone upstairs is telling us it's not our year. The team have worked really hard and could get the car ready for another run tomorrow but the car is just not balanced and I can't give it the commitment you need to be on the podium. We know what we've got to do to compete with the top guys and we will start with that as soon as we get back. Sorry to let all my friends, families and sponsor's down but you have to know when to step back.

[stefanvv]

WOW! more than 10% higher average speed! the record will be well broken if it keeps going like this

I think it is already broken with Loeb's participation :) (deja vu)

[makinen_fan]

Loeb American style

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNx2W9mCcAA2n7s.jpg

[etvoila]

I think it is already broken with Loeb's participation :) (deja vu)

i'm ok with you. This year we can have the best time (Under 9 minutes). if it's the case, i wich we can have next year, Loeb vs Vettel in pikes peak.

[TyPat107]

Who is watching live on redbull's site today?

i couldn't (or should I say my wife couldn't) justify me driving down 8 hours to watch but I have quite a few friends that made it down. So hopefully I will have updates.

[dimviii]

En live : Pikes Peak International Hill Climb - Vidéo | Red Bull Sports mécaniques (http://www.redbull.com/fr/fr/motorsports/stories/1331598307166/en-live-pikes-peak-international-hill-climb)

[EightGear]

When will the cars start? So far only motorcycles, quads and other stuff have gone up the mountain.

[dimviii]

new helmet for Loeb
http://image.redbull.com/rbcom/010/2013-06-29/1331598784554_3/0010/1/700/466/3/loeb-pikes-peak-helmet-2.jpg
http://vimeo.com/69381950#

[dimviii]

When will the cars start? So far only motorcycles, quads and other stuff have gone up the mountain.

Delayed start was due to a motorcycle crash. ;-

[TyPat107]

I am assuming the crash was from the transmission fluid on the road at the start of the "W's"?

[TyPat107]

Planet Marcus just said Loeb scheduled to start in 30 minutes!

[dimviii]

from Peugeot sport Loeb willstart at 18,45

[TyPat107]

Sorry not sure what time it is there, right now at the peak it's 10:45 and sounds like there is a slight hold up because the motorcycle that crashed caused a fire

[dimviii]

what a comedy the organisers.

[vino_93]

will we see cars running a day ? :)

[dimviii]

Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport) 4λ (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport/status/351388171503812608) #PeugeotPikesPeak (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PeugeotPikesPeak&src=hash) Unlimited in few mn. 11 competitors.

[dimviii]

Loeb inside car now live

[EightGear]

Commentator: "He has not been in WRC this year,....."

:o

[stefanvv]

Very clean run, lets see what will be the time

[stefanvv]

8:13:878? :eek:

EDIT: avg speed would be 140,77 km/h

[TyPat107]

No way no way no way!!!!!!!!! That was epic!!!!

[focus206]

What was the previous record?

[dimviii]

8:13:878? :eek:

EDIT: avg speed would be 140,77 km/h

he ruined the Pikes Peak,as wrc.

[stefanvv]

What was the previous record?



Unlimited
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Nobuhiro Tajima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuhiro_Tajima)
Suzuki SX4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SX4)
2011
9:51.278
121.7 km/h

[stefanvv]

he ruined the Pikes Peak,as wrc.

Yes, he did. We must also consider it is all paved now, somewhat expected, but never the less, amazing

[focus206]

Unlimited
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Nobuhiro Tajima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuhiro_Tajima)
Suzuki SX4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SX4)
2011
9:51.278
121.7 km/h




Oh my God :eek:

[dimviii]

Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport) Dumas abandoned

[eateel]

Why?

[TheFlyingTuga]

The previous record of cars was set last year. It's not Monster Tajima 9.51. I think that was something around 8.59 done by Rhys Millen in a Hyunday of Open Class

[TyPat107]

Rhys looks so slow compared to Loeb. Phenomenal.

[makinen_fan]

Unlimited
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Nobuhiro Tajima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuhiro_Tajima)
Suzuki SX4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SX4)
2011
9:51.278
121.7 km/h




that was when it was mixed surface. Last year Rhys set a 9:46.164

[TyPat107]

No Rhys wasn't in the 8's. Rhys record was 9:4x. It was marginally faster than Monsters record.

[dimviii]

Rhys looks so slow compared to Loeb. Phenomenal.

Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport) 3λ (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport/status/351398287837896705) Rhys Millen 9.02.192

[focus206]

I think to heave heard Rhys Millen got something like 9:41 last year, but probably I've misheard, my English isn't excellent...

EDIT: oh ok, I stand corrected... or not?

[dimviii]

Jean Philippe Dayraut 9.42.740

[stefanvv]

that was when it was mixed surface

Of course. Can't tell it was more gravel or more asfalt then though

EDIT: But probably that doesn't matter much as tyres should suit both

[SashaIF]

Last year the best time was 9:46,164

[stefanvv]

All records by classes - Pikes Peak International Hill Climb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak_International_Hill_Climb#Cars)

EDIT: wiki just got updated, the race is still not over officially :D

[TheFlyingTuga]

Yes, I misread the time's from other place! You're right, Loeb took 1 min and 33 sec off the record! Damm

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic run by Loeb, as usual :bounce:

[TyPat107]

Ok now that unlimited is out of the way, I really hoping thugs go well for my friend Dave Kern in Time Attack. Apparently they were up all night fighting electric gremlins. I really want him to reclaim the time attack record he held but the weather is looking iffy on the hill now.

[Nem14]

strange the rollcage / spaceframe hasnt been painted looks a bit unproffessional for peugeot


Paint can hide stress cracks.

[cali]

Amazing time from Loeb! Like stated here before, he totally destroyed Pikes Peak

[EightGear]

They just interviewed 'Sabastian Loeb.' :D

[TyPat107]

Why would they ask how much it cost?!? And why didn't they ask the other teams? Sorry for they announcers, the are bad.

[dimviii]

Why would they ask how much it cost?!? And why didn't they ask the other teams? Sorry for they announcers, the are bad.

more stupid question couldn t imagine. :D

[stefanvv]

Why would they ask how much it cost?!? And why didn't they ask the other teams? Sorry for they announcers, the are bad.

Probably because Red Bull are the sponsors :confused: It was very serious project anyway I think, though Peugeot used some know-how hardware of Le Mans 908

[dimviii]

Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport) 17λ (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport/status/351410869365780480) the climb inside #208T16PikesPeak (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23208T16PikesPeak&src=hash) with on board camera coming soon

[miniwintz]

Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport) 17λ (https://twitter.com/peugeotsport/status/351410869365780480) the climb inside #208T16PikesPeak (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23208T16PikesPeak&src=hash) with on board camera coming soon
Can't wait to see this, because Redbull's coverage of this event is one of the worst coverage I've ever seen. Peugeot's officials must be really mad, I've seen a flash on french TV news channel and they had the same crappy quality footage as we have seen, meaning there was no real TV crew whatsoever. Totally unprofessional.

[nafpaktos]

Congatulations to Sebastian.Great driving.I believe that for those who know about wrc it wasn't a surprise because all know his exceptional driving skills.The margin between seb and the second is really BIG!!

P.S Was any changes to the route this year??(gravel section?)i ask because Rhys Millen and Jean-Philippe Dayraut also beat the previous record.

[TyPat107]

Route was same as last year as they finished paving days after the 2011 event.

Also I think Loeb may have (hopefully) smashed the superstition/excuse that Americans have that you only accomplish what the mountain will let you. Turns out with skill and meticulous preparation are all that you really need. Who knew? ;)

[tolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QKdnz8i14E

[nafpaktos]

Also I think Loeb may have (hopefully) smashed the superstition/excuse that Americans have that you only accomplish what the mountain will let you. Turns out with skill and meticulous preparation are all that you really need. Who knew? ;)
I think this has been proved some years ago when vatanen,mouton,rohrl won the event.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Fantastic acomplishment for the whole Peugeot team :) I'm really pissed with the Red Bull TV coverage, the worst thing is I spent almost 2 hours waiting for Loeb to come to see the probably worst piece of motorsport coverage ever. I hope an onboard will come soon :)

[noel157]

Well done to Peugeot Sport and Seb.

Must agree, coverage was poor on all fronts from commentary (if you can call it that), interviews and the chopper cam (kept losing the car). Better than nothing of course. Redbull usually do better than that for their various other stuff.
Should've sent some of our members out like Darkstar and Joost Schouten :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

The worst part is, the comentators mentioned before Loeb's run how they have multiple onboard views ready :/ The only time you could hear the car was the first two seconds of the run, the rest were extremely boring silent helicopter shots with the helicopter spending most of the time finding Loeb

[Delta_HF]

I think the helecopter struggled keeping up with Loeb. :D

[stefanvv]

Not bad video assembled of RB's coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijJMm0o3Lfk

I am very dissapointed I didn't see onboard sections and the especially checkered flag.

[stefanvv]

Full HD coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKEureQsA24

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=190670764432058

[WillG]

2013 Pikes Peak Crash Electric Car - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Q6ThTeKdgR0)


Janis Horeliks crash in this years hill climb, big impact!

[tommeke_B]

Did anyone else notice that many spectators are extremely dangerous along the track? I don't understand that the organizers can't make it more safe, especially as it is only one relatively short track. With the speed these drivers are doing in these cars, if it goes wrong, it goes terribly wrong...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOFo7QlCYAAoyPF.jpg:large

[makinen_fan]

Did anyone else notice that many spectators are extremely dangerous along the track? I don't understand that the organizers can't make it more safe, especially as it is only one relatively short track. With the speed these drivers are doing in these cars, if it goes wrong, it goes terribly wrong...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1wgsWbWSo

[TyPat107]

Spectators have always been like that and there have been close calls like Paul dallenbachs last year. Pikes peak puts up orange fences and no spectator signs but that only goes so far.

[Kielder]

Did anyone else notice that many spectators are extremely dangerous along the track? I don't understand that the organizers can't make it more safe, especially as it is only one relatively short track. With the speed these drivers are doing in these cars, if it goes wrong, it goes terribly wrong...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1wgsWbWSo

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixD6GdOpMs&feature=youtu.be

[EightGear]

Full onboard in HD: King of the Peak: Sebastien Loeb onboard POV video - Video | Red Bull Motorsports (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/stories/1331598982312/video-loeb-pikes-peak-record)

[dimviii]

:vader: at 6,50 6th speed at limiter with 242km/h all these at fast left corner!!!!!, just before brakes for the right corner. :vader:

[WillG]

Pat Dorans run up the peak. Loeb went more than 2 minutes quicker than this which puts things in perspective!!

Dorans run finished in the rain which slowed him down but he was still 20 seconds slower in the first section and 27 seconds slower in section 2 which was perfectly dry.

Pat Doran Pikes Peak 2013 Race Day Incar Footage, Unlimited Class Final time of 10.14.187 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/VO4udXzg2tY)

[WillG]

The full in car video of Loeb, pretty amazing footage.....


King of the Peak: Sebastien Loeb onboard POV video - Video | Red Bull Motorsports (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/stories/1331598982312/video-loeb-pikes-peak-record)

[WillG]

This is a scary video of Loeb almost taking out 3 idiotic spectators

Pikes Peak 2013 Sebastien Loeb "New record 8'13" - YouTube (http://youtu.be/FO1wgsWbWSo)

[leighton323]

The full in car video of Loeb, pretty amazing footage.....


King of the Peak: Sebastien Loeb onboard POV video - Video | Red Bull Motorsports (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/stories/1331598982312/video-loeb-pikes-peak-record)

How do you play these videos? I've never been able to figure it out..

[makinen_fan]

How do you play these videos? I've never been able to figure it out..

Press on the red triangle pointing to the right

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOKY85eCAAEDo_h.jpg:large

[leighton323]

Press on the red triangle pointing to the right

Yeah wasn't working on chrome, not sure why. Tried another browser and worked fine, thanks anyway.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOJAxOSCYAAysp3.jpg:large

[Ranger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1wgsWbWSo

The event is a disaster waiting to happen, unless they improve safety to a half-decent level.

Even in 2011 you could see the crowd standing on the outside of 150+ km/h corners.

[Nem14]

Did anyone else notice that many spectators are extremely dangerous along the track? I don't understand that the organizers can't make it more safe, especially as it is only one relatively short track.The 'track' is 12.35 miles long (19.9km).
So it is in effect a 19.9 km rally stage. Rally stages also have little in the way of spectator controls.

[WillG]

The list of great racing Pugs continues:


205 T16

205 T16 Pikes Peak

405 T16 Pikes Peak

405 T16 Paris Dakar

905 LM

306 Maxi

206 WRC

307 WRC (less good but still quite cool!)

908 HDI FAP

208 T16 Pikes Peak


I can't think of many other manufacturers who have won the WRC multiple times (in different decades) Le Mans multiple times (in different decades), Pikes Peak on a couple of occasions, Paris Dakar and also have had a stab at F1.......

[Mirek]

..... and also all the time provided cars for all levels of competition starting from the very basic cars such as 205 gti. That's really impressive.

[tommeke_B]

The 'track' is 12.35 miles long (19.9km).
So it is in effect a 19.9 km rally stage. Rally stages also have little in the way of spectator controls.

It's only one "stage" to control. For example a few big rally-stages I can recall: like Ouninpohja-Finland, Santana da Serra-Portugal, Panzerplatte-Germany have only very very few places with dangerous spectators. If they want to be the biggest hillclimb of the world, the safety should be up to that level too.

[Kielder]

The Almodovar stage in Rally of Portugal was 52 km long this year. The same day another stage of 21 km was run. Although it was Sunday, I can't imagine any spectators placed there like the ones we watch on the videos.

[Mirek]

And that is gravel... Asphalt is MUCH more dangerous surface for spectators. The accidents often come without a warning even on places where everybody is driving like on rails and cars whose drivers lost control often take very unpredictable directions.

[etvoila]

Seb five years ago. on => youtube.com/Watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

[big_sw2000]

le gendarme et seb. loeb - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY) as aboves link is not working. With all due respect, the spectators were all stood in sensible places there. On the inside out of the way. It was just one stray policeman, who appeared not to have a clue there.

[makinen_fan]

I believe above all is due to spectators' culture. Probably most of these people dont get to watch non-circuit racing more than once a year to understand and appreciate the dangers involved in spectating. Although the efforts of the organisers to control them is just pathetic. Btw do they have marshalls along the route?

[ShiftingGears]

I wonder if those spectators who ran in front of his car know how to breathe without an instruction manual. Idiotic stuff that could ruin the hillclimb.


The full in car video of Loeb, pretty amazing footage.....

King of the Peak: Sebastien Loeb onboard POV video - Video | Red Bull Motorsports (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/stories/1331598982312/video-loeb-pikes-peak-record)

Red Bull do an unquestionably great job promoting the sports they are involved in - this is one such example. Great footage.

[WillG]

Big accident from this year involving a Porsche 914 - incredible the driver was able to walk away considering the wreck!! I'm guessing this was a left hand drive car.....


2013 Pikes Peak Hill Climb Porsche 914 CRASH!! - YouTube (http://youtu.be/CR1jLPhD2DI)

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwwkOZQIeo&sns=em