[ERC] Sata Rallye Acores

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just watching the video's it is really clear how much faster the RRC cars sound compared to the N/A S2000 cars...

The DS3 RRC of Kubica really sounds like a 'proper' rally car... fantastic compared to the revvy, thrashy Skoda's.

And if it sounds great, it usually is great ! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AI8qk4lgWs&feature=player_embedded

[faateris]

Robert surprised again, he must finish this rally..... I think, Breen can drive faster.

[Andre Oliveira]

Kubica is fast, hope that Citroen give him a WRC to asphalt :)

[noel157]

Is the Citroen RRC the new Fabia?

[RS]

Just watching the video's it is really clear how much faster the RRC cars sound compared to the N/A S2000 cars...

The DS3 RRC of Kubica really sounds like a 'proper' rally car... fantastic compared to the revvy, thrashy Skoda's.


I like the sound of the Fabia, but the DS3 looks and sounds really spunky compared to the Fiesta RRC.

Watch the qualifying stage video here: Event Videos' Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/list/id/4)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I like the sound of the Fabia, but the DS3 looks and sounds really spunky compared to the Fiesta RRC.



The S2000 cars sound good in isolation but there is no comparison to the RRC ...

As for the Fiesta RRC, its like with the WRC cars, the Citroens always sound better than the Ford's - I thinks its the induction they use which is more rorty and sounds evil at times !

I think the future looks (and sounds) good when all the RRC's are in the ERC ...



Citroën DS3 RRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_DS3_WRC)[/*:m:3xurf4ee]
Ford Fiesta RRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta_RS_WRC)[/*:m:3xurf4ee]
Ford Fiesta R5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta_RS_WRC)[/*:m:3xurf4ee]
Mini John Cooper Works S2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_John_Cooper_Works_WRC)[/*:m:3xurf4ee]
Peugeot 208 R5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_208)[/*:m:3xurf4ee]

[Luis Pacheco]

MAXRALLY - More recce or no rally, says F1 star Kubica (http://www.maxrally.com/2013/04/25/kubica-i-wont-take-risks-on-fog-hit-rallye-acores)

[bluuford]

Foreast has changed again.. there is a little chanche that we do not see any rain before afternoon. But you newer now with showers..

[RS]

The S2000 cars sound good in isolation but there is no comparison to the RRC ...

As for the Fiesta RRC, its like with the WRC cars, the Citroens always sound better than the Ford's - I thinks its the induction they use which is more rorty and sounds evil at times !

I think the future looks (and sounds) good when all the RRC's are in the ERC ...



Citroën DS3 RRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_DS3_WRC)[/*:m:2pf2v7kf]
Ford Fiesta RRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta_RS_WRC)[/*:m:2pf2v7kf]
Ford Fiesta R5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta_RS_WRC)[/*:m:2pf2v7kf]
Mini John Cooper Works S2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_John_Cooper_Works_WRC)[/*:m:2pf2v7kf]
Peugeot 208 R5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_208)[/*:m:2pf2v7kf]

RRCs are old news! The R5s are coming which should sound better still.

Yes, the Fiesta still suffers from Pipo Moteurs Syndrome. For me, all RRCs have to change gear too early and sound a little strangled, but the Citroen is good, yes.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_6220ad4d0a.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_0e59b4b346.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_48150efe05.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_7e007bf51a.jpg

More photos from Acore HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1141)

[PLuto]

Start list to today's part of first leg: Sata Rallye Açores 2013 - Start order - leg 1, section 2 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/sata-rallye-acores-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=306)

[PLuto]

Gallery from Sata Rallye Acores by Frantisek Dusek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15167)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a206b67641f68549be35246aaff1cc16.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/28f26b7f9e52ef60ae4e693b172796fb.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/f50d29ea314c3f212521156304d50de1.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a0aa293a295b1f6ad199c91069689080.jpg

[stefanvv]

Live timing on fiaerc site - Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/4)

[Jeppe]

Problems for Cerny?

[Mirek]

Kubica fastest again.

[polo10]

For me, impressive Kubica, good Breen, good Ancian,very good Moura(of course he is in his garden), bad Magalhaes...

[dimviii]

Kubica fastest again.

will he manage to stay ahead of Jan at his second gravel attempt ? For sure his speed at gravel is surprise for me.Didn t expect to be faster from Jan.

[PLuto]

Live timing on fiaerc site - Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/4)

And our live timing here - Sata Rallye Açores 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/sata-rallye-acores-2013)

[Mirek]

will he manage to stay ahead of Jan at his second gravel attempt ? For sure his speed at gravel is surprise for me.Didn t expect to be faster from Jan.

But don't forget that Jan hasn't done a single gravel stage for 1,5 years (last time Cyprus 2011) so he's not absolutely proper benchmark either. But sure he is impressive.

[Mirek]

Problems for Cerny?

Looks like something serious...

[rage82]

But don't forget that Jan hasn't done a single gravel stage for 1,5 years (last time Cyprus 2011) so he's not absolutely proper benchmark either. But sure he is impressive.
And also that RRC cars have some advantage against N/A 2000 cars.

[noel157]

Wise words from Meeke:

Meeke issues warning for Kubica - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motor-sport/meeke-issues-warning-for-kubica-29221104.html)

Not that Robert will lift the fast pedal even a little.....

[Tom206wrc]

Times are quite long to come today...issues with chronos/GPS ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Ancian on SS6 :confused:

Edit: OK he's here...

[RS]

Everyone ready for SS7 live on fiaerc.com?

[Jarek Z]

Wise words from Meeke:

Meeke issues warning for Kubica - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motor-sport/meeke-issues-warning-for-kubica-29221104.html)

Not that Robert will lift the fast pedal even a little.....

Kubica didn't receive the warning and wins 5th stage in a row ;)

[rage82]

Where on fiaerc.com do you gyus see the link for the live streaming?

[michpetter]

Everyone ready for SS7 live on fiaerc.com?
Everyone except fiaerc.com...

[rage82]

NOw it's starting

[RS]

Yes, looks like their site is overloaded.

[rallyfun]

Wise words from Meeke:

Meeke issues warning for Kubica - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motor-sport/meeke-issues-warning-for-kubica-29221104.html)

Not that Robert will lift the fast pedal even a little.....

WTF is Meeke?

[darkstar]

i cant find any livestream...has someone got the link?

[hari]

Anyone seeing anything?

[KudlaCZ]

Live stream is the official result and you have to click the top left of the Peugeot

[darkstar]

ok, works fine, thanks! a little bit hidden...

[rage82]

Not a bad stream at all, without any commentators only pure sound

[darkstar]

what is the helicopter filming there???

[thuGG]

Robert punctured his tire.

[dimviii]

Kubica 5 km with flat tyre.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Looks like we'll have a nice battle at the front now that Jan has taken back some time from Robert and the long SS8 is next.

[RS]

Tip for anyone at work in the UK who has Sky - you can watch Eurosport on Sky Go :)

[vino_93]

Well, JM Raoux codriver was lost. At the beginning of the live, they tried to know where they were ...

[makinen_fan]

For those with no Eurosport, try thisStreamHunter - Live Streaming Video / Watch Free Live Sport Streams - MotorSports (http://www.streamhunter.eu/motor-sports-live-streaming-video.html)

[noel157]

Great on-boards.

[Andre Oliveira]

Splits here (http://amaweb.com.pt/satarallye/#)

[darkstar]

the weather is crazy!

[RS]

Very tricky conditions for such narrow roads.

[EightGear]

"Interesting" stage to see live on TV.

[Andre Oliveira]

Sousa flying :) According splits Kubica are slower.

[RS]

Good drive by Sousa but it looked like he had better conditions than the later runners.

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Cerny now :confused:

[Mirek]

Are those times correct? It looks completely crazy...

[Andre Oliveira]

No splits to Cerný.

[Mirek]

Where's Cerny now :confused:

He had big problems with the car so maybe it stopped...

[wildboar]

The new live timings site is really cool. If you click on a driver's name, you can see all his stage times AND his end-of-stage comments for each stage.

Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/4)

[Mirek]

The new live timings site is really cool. If you click on a driver's name, you can see all his stage times AND his end-of-stage comments for each stage.

Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/4)

Which is nothing new. This feature has been working on rally-base.com for a long time ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Orsak crashed :mark:

[Mirek]

Pity, he was doing very well for his first real gravel event...

[Mirek]

Černý officially technical problem but this photo posted on autosport.cz by Ondra_WRC looks like an accident...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431917_462132727197916_855605746_n.jpg

[mousti]

Orsak off, Cerny retired with engine (and small crash) problems and Kubica loosing almost 2 minutes because of bad visibility by fog..!

[Mintexmemory]

Lots of time left for Kubica to catch up, pleased that Breen immediately came back at Kopecky. Now Moura and Sousa can smell a podium this should be exciting to the end (forgot Magalhaes!! he can contribute to the tensioon also!!)

[Tom206wrc]

This SS8 promises to be HELL for the 2WDs drivers :s

[KudlaCZ]

Facebook Orsák: Unfortunately, accidents on stage 8, the boys are OK, more info later, it seems that it took a cooler

[darkstar]

is there any more live coverage on fiaerc.com?

[Mirek]

cerny has either crashed or had a technical problems, on the onboards you could see him standing beside the road. is there any more live coverage on fiaerc.com?

Both :(

[RS]

is there any more live coverage on fiaerc.com?

SS11 at 18:30 CET

Get ready for the live ERC spectacular - News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/594)

[Juha_Koo]

The live from Eurosport was awesome... Really nice broadcast, crazy conditions with a lot of moments!

[WRC3]

If I see the Splits, I have no good feeling for Leader 2WD and especially H. Neubauer ...

[Tom206wrc]

Why has Lefèbvre lost 12 minutes on SS8(on Dantziger) :confused:
And no driver starting behind him arrived between this huge loss !!! Not normal :s
To me Stéphane had to drive slowly because crash of the Austrian in Suzuki S1600 :confused:

[darkstar]

SS11 at 18:30 CET

Get ready for the live ERC spectacular - News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/594)

thanks!

[WRC3]

Why has Lefèbvre lost 12 minutes on SS8 :confused:
And no driver starting behind him arrived between this huge loss !!! Not normal :s
To me Stéphane had to drive slowly because crash of the Austrian in Suzuki S1600 :confused:

I dont like that, but seems yes ...

[Allyc85]

The live from Eurosport was awesome... Really nice broadcast, crazy conditions with a lot of moments!

Great wasnt it. So good seeing the drivers challenged in tough conditions.

[Tom206wrc]

Léandri also crashed apparently :(

[Kielder]

Facebook Orsák: Unfortunately, accidents on stage 8, the boys are OK, more info later, it seems that it took a cooler

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385932_10151605625256147_1000827124_n.jpg

[noel157]

Orsak not exactly able to use any spectators to get back on the road, unfortunate but could've been much worse.
Would be interesting to see footage of the accident.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fantastic live on-boards from SS8 on Eurosport...

Especially impressed with Breen who was really going hard in terrible conditions in a rally that is brand new for him. Tremendous to take time out of someone as experienced as Kopecky... :)

[Mirek]

According to Pluto Kopecký finished SS8 with a hole in the rear side body of the car and a badly damaged right front rim.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sousa takes SS9: Kopecky leads the rally, Breen +15.4, Moura +24.8, Sousa moves to fourth +28.2, Magalhães + 32.8...

[darkstar]

really an interesting rallye so far!

[Andre Oliveira]

SS8 Lefebvre's time corrected (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=7309&s=35718&t=SATA-Rallye-Acores-2013)

[Tom206wrc]

Oh noooo Molly Taylor retired too on SS8(accident) ;(

[Andre Oliveira]

Wallenwein???

[Andre Oliveira]

Magalhães won 9.1s from Moura :) 1.1s ahead now. Great battle.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting !!! Magalhaes back to the lead of the portuguese drivers after SS10 :)

[Mirek]

Černý said he had electrical problems with injection in the first two stages but managed to fix them. The retirement was due to an accident. He wants to restart tomorrow as the damage is only light.

Wallenwein in finish but 11 minutes late...

[Tom206wrc]

Wallenwein???

Almost 11 minutes lost :s

[Andre Oliveira]

Great rally so far. But i miss Bouffier.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

iRally: 'Possible question mark over SS12 - "fog check" "rain check" apparently taking place ...' :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Where is the live stream located on the official site ???

Watching http://www.estadiofutebol.com/rtpacores

[makinen_fan]

Where is the live stream located on the official site ???

Watching SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE EM DIRECTO - RTP Açores grátis, rtpacores online em direto! (http://www.estadiofutebol.com/rtpacores)

Go on the ERC LIVE (red button) and click on the top left button (arrow)

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for Vitaly Pushkar in SS10 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

No Stéphane Lefèbvre in SS10 ??? ;(

[Mirek]

Almost 11 minutes lost :s

Went off, spectators pushed him back. Damaged steering.

[Bartek]

I don't know if anyone saw but Robert have the gear lever on the right side, like in normal WRC yes?

[Andre Oliveira]

Lefebre 23.15.3

[Tom206wrc]

Lefebre 23.15.3


Off road too ??? :(

[rallye-vid]

Kubica rolled....

[Bartek]

Kubica is too fast?

[makinen_fan]

SS12 cancelled due to the dense fog

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica again !!!! ;(
Where's Ancian :confused:

[darkstar]

Kubica:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/933902_633503299993727_1631918834_n.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Kubica again !!!! ;(
Where's Ancian :confused:

Ancian finished the stage fine in 6th

[Jeppe]

Kubica rolled....

That´s bad news for the rally. But it´s part of the RK´s learning curve. Someone wise guy said that it´s possible to teach steadiness to fast guy, but it´s impossible to teach speed for the steady guy ;) ;)

[rallye-vid]

(4 - Kubica Robert / Baran Maciej): We had big understeer in one corner and rolled. There is a problem with front left suspension.

[Jeppe]

SS12 cancelled due to the dense fog

..and here comes the redemption for the RK. Hope he can make to evening service.

[RS]

Typical, the one stage I get to watch in the comfort of my own home live is cancelled :(

But safety rules.

Looking forward to tomorrow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go on the ERC LIVE (red button) and click on the top left button (arrow)

No, still couldnt find it... thankfully had RTP Acores instead !

I cant believe the official site is so poor at showing where the stream is ... :rolleyes:

[Andre Oliveira]

Fast Eddie look here

3139

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fast Eddie look here

3139

That's what I did and it takes me to the results page, then what ?

[darkstar]

crash from mark wallenwein: 26 avril 2013 10:28 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=476266642444880)

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/382164_10151456231088952_621984656_n.jpg

[Jerra]

Just got next email from adress rallyopinions@gmail.com and need to share with rally fans, also your opinions about whole situations on Rally Acores 2013. I don't know what's really going on there and who sent ...

RALLY AZORES : A RACE FOR SURVIVAL OR A RALLY?

Rumors

A lot of drivers, mostly the foreign drivers, who have participated to the Rally Azores, couldn’t have carried out in the last days the practices of the special stages and so they couldn’t have had the correct pacenotes. This is happened in some traits of the official track for the extreme conducting environmentals because it was foggy, the visibility was about 5 metres in many traits, also the abundant rains have made many parts of the course virtually impassables. Yesterday many drivers, captained by Robert Kubica, have asked for the deletion of a race and the shortening of the 2nd special stage.
Yesterday the situation was bad and also today it isn’t improved, indeed it may have worsened. The question which, for the rumors, a lot of drivers, mostly the foreign drivers, pose themselves is :
Is Rally Azores a race for survival or a Rally? Does it make sense to run a Rally in these situations?
This is the question which a lot of drivers pose themselves and it isn’t the 1st time that this situation happens.

[RS]

Is there ever a non-rainy, non-foggy season on Azores or is it the same all year?

[Mirek]

Short onboard compilation of Škoda Motorsport


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAO1HbvUs9A&feature=player_embedded

[HarriK]

Was Wallenwein off here allready?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=476266642444880&set=o.117127465005486&type=2&theater

[bluuford]

It is on the track of cyclones.. best months are June and July, the worst months should be October, November December. April is not too bad, May is much better already.
Yesterdays big rains were approximately 80% of the total average precipitation in April

[RS]

Perhaps in the future they could move it to June or July. It would be a shame to lose this unique and beautfiul event.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ju7zRqy6xA

[faateris]

Weather, weather, very difficult rally....... Finale will be interesting. Really good gravel experience for Kubica.

[Kielder]

On this video you can see how the conditions were today in Sete Cidades stage and confirm how Orsak crashed:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6wF-H-q9U8

[Kielder]

Pics of Cerny's damaged car. He ripped off a wheel:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/67516_462216223856233_2043460321_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.462216200522902.1073741830.416588285085694&type=3&l=bf248975ce

[Kielder]

Kubica accepts blame for Azores crash (http://www.iracing.com/inracingnews/real-world-racing/3rdparty/kubica-accepts-blame-for-azores-crash) (In my opinion, not pushing has a different meaning for Kubica and for the rest of the people:rolleyes :)

The car is being fixed. Julian Porter uploaded his photo some hours ago:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIzN_3nCIAEpdBk.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8syAzZ-ZjbU

[dimviii]

Perhaps in the future they could move it to June or July. It would be a shame to lose this unique and beautfiul event.

big bravo to all at Azores

Event organiser praises super-human stage rebuilding workFrancisco Coelho, the Chairman of the organising committee of SATA Rallye Açores, has revealed how a super-human effort ensured today’s stages went ahead as planned.
Heavy rain had decimated some of the roads used for round four of the FIA European Rally Championship, which prompted the Azorean government to mobilise almost 200 personnel to work through the night to repair the damage.
Armed with a fleet of road-building machines, their efforts meant the damage to the Coroa da Mata, Feteiras, Graminhais, São Brás/Vila Franca and Sete Cidades has been repaired.
“We have to thank the President of Açores, Vasco Cordeiro, and all the various departments and workers for their efforts,” said Coelho. “This was a big undertaking and involved many people working very long hours and a lot of expense.”
François Ribeiro, Motorsport Development Director of Eurosport Events, the ERC promoter, said: “We have seen already how amazing the support is from the government here in Açores. They have made possible the live television coverage, helped to ensure that everybody got here follow the airline strikes and now they have done this extra work. We really must take our hats off to them.”

News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news)

[Kielder]

BTW, after knowing the cancellation of SS12, I can't get out of my mind Rohrl's words about what happened in Arganil in 1980. I suppose that nobody drives in his head now. The involution of rallying, definitely.
Counting the days until the premiere of Deimel's new documentary about that legendary day.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FBu5WmSok

[Kielder]

Remember that Bouffier was not helped in Açores by another team which has an extra 207 engine on their truck. This is the other side of the coin:

Mark Wallenwein (https://www.facebook.com/mark.wallenwein)
"Wow - Finally our car was fixed in 45 minutes after our little roll thanks to the help of 3 different teams with 3 different brands! Back on track of SATA Rally tomorrow! :) Thanks to everybody, this was great - Rally-Family!!! #FIAERC #SataRallyAçores #rallyfamily"

[noel157]

Well Kubica did admit to " I was driving at normal speed I would say" which is pushing it going by normal standards.. :)

He should've listened to Meeke's warning: "Expect the unexpected on Sete Cidades" :)

Whatever, rallying needs people like Kubica, his personality but mostly how he steers a car. Going to be a good season.

[Kielder]

Judge by yourselves:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3aZntCL08w

[Andre Oliveira]

That's what I did and it takes me to the results page, then what ?

Then click on play symbol

[Mirek]

Pics of Cerny's damaged car. He ripped off a wheel:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/67516_462216223856233_2043460321_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.462216200522902.1073741830.416588285085694&type=3&l=bf248975ce

The guy on the right is Petr Brynda. Some of You may know the name as he used to be one of our best 2WD drivers. Two years a go he did also some IRC events.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_3eea8784a7.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_02c2e313c5.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_3f3184df17.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1141/1141_sata_rally_acores_2013_be0c80f2c0.jpg

More photos from Acores HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1141)

[dimviii]

No holky? :(

[dimviii]

Apart from the weather have you encountered any problems today?
“On the last stage I was not so concentrated because I had a problem with the middle seatbelt. It was a little bit hurting and I was not concentrated at all. Over every bump it was not good down there.”

News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news)

[Jerra]

Perhaps in the future they could move it to June or July. It would be a shame to lose this unique and beautfiul event.

Organisers also could put one day extra for recce, just in case due weather conditions, its not easy to make correct pacenotes on the fog

[PLuto]

Sata Rallye Açores 2013 - Start order - leg 3 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/sata-rallye-acores-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=307)

[darkstar]

can someone help me finding the rtp acores livestream?

[hari]

can someone help me finding the rtp acores livestream?

Direto RTP Açores - RTP Play - RTP (http://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtpacores)

[darkstar]

thanks! what happened to kubica in stage 14?

[Kielder]

Like yesterday, there is a lot of fog on SS13 in Açores.

[Kielder]

FIA ERC ‏@FIAERC (https://twitter.com/FIAERC) 1m (https://twitter.com/FIAERC/status/328084021902979072) No Raoux no Sousa at the end of the stage... and Moura didn't see anything... :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kopecky beats Breen by 2.6s...

[Kielder]

Magalhães says that he saw other cars crashed and he lost his rhythm. He saw Sousa in the beginning in the fog, he went straight. Crew is OK.

[Kielder]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally (https://twitter.com/Official_iRally) 2m (https://twitter.com/Official_iRally/status/328085546461171712) Kopecky wins 16:08.3: "They should shorten the stage....we had fog at the start....we had fog in in the recce. We do not know where to go."

More cancellations to come...

[KudlaCZ]

Kopecky after SS13: "I think they should shorten the stage and now again there was heavy fog after the start. We have heavy fog during the recce and there is heavy fog now and you do not know where you go..."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any live stream for SS14 ?

[darkstar]

ah kubicas time is corrected, some mintes ago he had lost almost 5 minutes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Todays live streams on RTP:

Sábado: acompanhe o Sata Rallye na RTP/Açores (Direto) - Notícias - RTP Açores

http://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtpacores (http://www.rtp.pt/acores/index.php?article=31944&visual=3&layout=10&tm=9)

[Kielder]

To me, this is the link that works better: RTP Açores (http://tv.azoresglobal.com/rtpa/)
Wind but no rain on the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica already 30s down on Moura at 2nd split ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen pips Kopecky by 0.5s on SS14 despite smoke in the car... great performance.

[rallye-vid]

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorline.cc%2Frallye%2Fem%2F20 13%2FRallye-EM%2FERC-Azoren-Rallye-Verr%C3%BCckte-Lichtgestalt-versus-Rallyeschulmeister-178297.html)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

After SS16 it sounds to me like Breen is going to settle for 2nd... he is right, Kopecky has much more experience and the points for 2nd are excellent for his first time on this rally...

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/431840_10151432881007987_1921782448_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ahead of locals Moura and Maga, and Sousa going out, shows an outstanding performance by Breen so far on his Azores debut ! :eek: :)

[Kielder]

Skoda's pics:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/302090_461284727282890_899337411_n.jpg
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392463_461284640616232_348055057_n.jpg
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375083_460948310649865_537885166_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.460948013983228.1073741828.281208875290477&type=3&l=21c92ea3ac

[Co-driven]

Why Ricardo Moura changed co-driver and was competing with Sancho Eiró? Wasn't he supposed to have António Costa as his co-driver?

[noel157]

After SS16 it sounds to me like Breen is going to settle for 2nd... he is right, Kopecky has much more experience and the points for 2nd are excellent for his first time on this rally...

Would make sense, no point in risking everything. P2 is very good considering.

[Andre Oliveira]

Sancho Eiró is his codriver for all Azorian events, see the profile (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=4534&t=Ricardo-Moura), but Sancho have affraid of planes, so, outside Azores, are others codrivers. Sancho only travel 3x times to codrive at Madeira.

[RS]

Sancho Eiró is his codriver for all Azorian events, see the profile (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=4534&t=Ricardo-Moura), but Sancho have affraid of planes, so, outside Azores, are others codrivers. Sancho only travel 3x times to codrive at Madeira.

Wow, he will ride in the co-drivers seat but he is scared of planes?!

[EightGear]

Ahead of locals Moura and Maga, and Sousa going out, shows an outstanding performance by Breen so far on his Azores debut ! :eek: :)

Yes we know you are impressed by Breen... ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes we know you are impressed by Breen... ;)

:D .. Yes sorry, but no-one else seems to appreciate just how well he is doing and I have been a long time fan.

Some of the on-board has been incredible... the work that he puts in is immense.

I suppose the wet conditions and narrow lanes of his Ireland home might be good experience though ! :)

He does have some other fans though:

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/updates/homessupport.jpg

BTW - can you spot the spy ??

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/updates/canuspotthespy.jpg

[Mirek]

Danzinger crashed :(

[WUff1]

Danzinger crashed :(

No good :(

[WUff1]

Crew OK!

[Kielder]

Winner's onboard through SS13:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MpO2ccmxlg

[RS]

Congratulations to Jan and Pavel on a very good drive. Job done again, 3 wins out of 3. I really feel he has improved as a driver with Dresler alongside.

Good solid performance by Breen too in tricky conditions. Kubica fast again but still with some learning to do as you would expect. I am sure Robert will challenge for victory again on Corsica!

[Mirek]

So it's done. Great mature drive of Jan and Pavel. It's first ever overall victory of Jan on gravel and 3rd victory of 3 events this year! Roll on Corsica! :)

From others I think that Ricardo Moura shall be specially pointed because he started with completely new car without more than a short Monday test and despite that finished on podium!

[noel157]

So it's done. Great mature drive of Jan and Pavel. It's first ever overall victory of Jan on gravel and 3rd victory of 3 events this year! Roll on Corsica! :)

Would agree, good measured drive from Kopecky. And as said good P2 from Breen. Both had punctures I think but the best driver won and Breen has further enhanced his knowledge, experience and reputation.

[Barreis]

Where's Delacour?

[noel157]

Where's Delacour?

Romania mostly.

[RICARDO75]

Danzinger crashed :(

He was driving very slow on that stage with technical problems. He went of on tricky place near the end of the stage.

[Rallyper]

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

[Mirek]

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

Shall we cancel Wales too? Fog exists longer than rallying and the bad weather was always part of the game. Unless You invent a weather machine rallying will keep fighting with bad weather or it will became an F1 where even a rain is seen to be often too dangerous to keep the race... Remember the famous drive of Walter Rohl in Portugal?

Per, You recently seem to complain about everything :(

[RS]

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

Hey, at least it's not on tarmac :)

[faateris]

Experience, no experience, if this rally win's Jan - tarmac specialist, all fastest S2000 drivers compete in WRC, not ERC... :( So wet rally!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another win by Mr Consistent, Jan Kopecky, and a 1st win on gravel !

Excellent win in terrible conditions but driver of the rally must be Craig Breen - only 30s down after nearly two and a half hours racing and on his 207 gravel and Azores debut...

Well done again Craig and also great to hear he still isnt satisfied with 2nd:
"We just got through that one. We need to be clever again. Of course I tried to push very hard this morning. Nothing stupid, but for sure we were pushing. Its all very well racking up these 2nd places, 2nd is getting monotenious. I want to win."

[bluuford]

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

I think that Rally Sweden should be thrown out from WRC as well... for sure! You know guys, I have heard that their stages are always covered by ice (you know this slippy and dangerous stuff) and sometimes there is even snow on the road!!!!! Can you imagine! :-P
Anyway, this is among my favourite rallies in ERC and I really want to go there one day. Organization was great (great effort to rebuild the roads overnight and allowig drivers an extra recce pass) and stages were great despite natural hazards trying to stop them. How many mechanical retirements (realted to bad road conditions we had? Compared to many other rallies? Not too many. When drivers go off then it is their fault. You have to drive as fast as the condtions allow, not faster. Congratulations to the great winner.It was well deserved win! He was clearly better tha anyone else.

[stefanvv]

Yeah, that's Rally. Remeber SS12 was cancelled yesterday because of really thick fog, so not so bad conditions for the rest

[rallye-vid]

ERC ACORES Kubica's car rebuilding - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/4/id/99/t/ERC-ACORES-Kubica%26%23039%3Bs-car-rebuilding)

[Luis Pacheco]

Sancho Eiró is his codriver for all Azorian events, see the profile (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=4534&t=Ricardo-Moura), but Sancho have affraid of planes, so, outside Azores, are others codrivers. Sancho only travel 3x times to codrive at Madeira.

But to compete in the Azorian events he has to take the plane to go to the other islands. :)

[Mirek]

Short onboard compilation of Jan and Pavel from today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MpO2ccmxlg&feature=player_embedded

[noel157]

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

Isn't rallying meant to be a challenge? Come on man, a bit of rain, a few patches of fog, certainly makes things more interesting and it's good to see how crews handle such conditions.

[Andre Oliveira]

But to compete in the Azorian events he has to take the plane to go to the other islands. :)

He could travel by boat. I have readed this some months ago... Sell the fish by the price that i bought :)

[Kielder]

Ricardo Moura has been awarded with the Colin McRae ERC Flat Out Trophy at the event. Well-deserved. I hope to see this great driver on more events of the ERC.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11996_10151453439902983_1290476358_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

What a luck in his unluck for Stéphane Lefèbvre, who finally took 2nd place in 2WDs class(and 16th overall) :)

[catty]

And as said good P2 from Breen. Both had punctures I think but the best driver won and Breen has further enhanced his knowledge, experience and reputation.
Is it really?

He is supposedly a works driver (although his dads bank manager would probably disagree) and has probably done more miles in a rallycar in the last 4 years than pretty much any driver in the world.
Beaten comprehensively again by Kopecky (who had never won on gravel), (until he crashed) a driver on his 2nd gravel rally, and almost beaten by a driver on his first s2000 outing and claims he is delighted to get experience.

Never heard his Irish predecessor coming out with that building experience for next year nonsense!
Would Meeke have been happy if he had just put in Breens performance? NO
Then again, Kris was getting paid to drive the car, rather than pretending to get paid.....

[Rallyper]

So no visibiltiy doesn´t count when making pacenotes?? I think the discussions of safety on this forum has come to lovest level when not agrred about the dangerous situstion most of the drivers had driving in total unvisibilty. Ask Kubica.

The least a driver could ask of is to make proper pacenotes. If that´s done it would be less problems doing stages in fog. Remembering Burns in GB around 1997-98 beating CMR over a minute on foggy stage.

[Mirek]

You implied that it was a case of whole rally which is not true at all. Anyway if the rally was just a lottery without any sporting value like You said we would hardly have third victory for the same man and third second place for the same man out of four events (when both of them skipped one).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is it really?

He is supposedly a works driver (although his dads bank manager would probably disagree) and has probably done more miles in a rallycar in the last 4 years than pretty much any driver in the world.
Beaten comprehensively again by Kopecky (who had never won on gravel), (until he crashed) a driver on his 2nd gravel rally, and almost beaten by a driver on his first s2000 outing and claims he is delighted to get experience.

Never heard his Irish predecessor coming out with that building experience for next year nonsense!
Would Meeke have been happy if he had just put in Breens performance? NO
Then again, Kris was getting paid to drive the car, rather than pretending to get paid.....

What utter nonsense !

1. Kopecky may not have won on gravel but he has huge experience and was usually only beaten by Hanninen
2. Breen is 9 years younger and has little gravel experience himself, being brought up on tarmac rallying in Ireland
3. He also has no gravel experience in the 207 and this was his first time in Azores and in horrendous conditions
4. The 207 is so old and is clearly inferior to the Skoda, not to mention out-gunned by the RRC Citroen & Ford
5. This is Breen's first season in IRC/ERC

And he should what ? Win the rally and the Championship ??

[Rallyper]

You implied that it was a case of whole rally which is not true at all. Anyway if the rally was just a lottery without any sporting value like You said we would hardly have third victory for the same man and third second place for the same man out of four events (when both of them skipped one).

Of course it affects the whole rally in the end.

This is not the WRC forum but I remember almost everyone crying for the bad conditions agreeing that MC should cancel the last stages because of that. That time the drivers had pacenotes which was correct, which is the difference. They should have completed the rally (MC) driving all the stages. No problem for me.

And Sweden - yes - tha rally on ice - dangerous? No - only with tarmac tires.

[Mirek]

I have never supported cancellation of stages in RMC, Argentina or anywhere if there was not a true valid reason (like flooded roads or something). In that regard I believe that it's better to let the decision up to responsible people who are personally there and not up to us whose only information are from forums or media. It's very easy to be an armchair general without knowing a complete picture.

[stefanvv]

Wait, didn't Col was cancelled due to blocked road section to the start by spectators?

[Mirek]

Yes, it was but I don't think Per meant that case but talks of some members that driving on the slash was too dangerous. I think it really was somehow dangerous but mainly because in WRC there is the stupid rule of no cuts in tyres allowed not because of the stages themselves.

[liposh]

Once again portuguese friends, are there any archives on RTP.pt pages, when we can find reportages from Sata rally Acores , please ?

[FAlonso]

I believe there´s something on this page. Quality is not great though.

Especial Sata Rallye, 27 de abril - SAPO Vídeos (http://videos.sapo.pt/rtpacores)

[noel157]

Remember that Bouffier was not helped in Açores by another team which has an extra 207 engine on their truck. This is the other side of the coin:

Mark Wallenwein (https://www.facebook.com/mark.wallenwein)
"Wow - Finally our car was fixed in 45 minutes after our little roll thanks to the help of 3 different teams with 3 different brands! Back on track of SATA Rally tomorrow! :) Thanks to everybody, this was great - Rally-Family!!! #FIAERC #SataRallyAçores #rallyfamily"

Wonder if Bouffier promised not to go faster than the main driver of the team that had the spare engine would he have got it?... :)

[Mirek]

The tree teams which helped Wallenwein were Škoda Motorsport, Delta Racing and Saintéloc if I remember.

[Jeppe]

Remember that Bouffier was not helped in Açores by another team which has an extra 207 engine on their truck. This is the other side of the coin:

What is this? I´m eager to know, is there any reliable source for this or is it just a story??

[Kielder]

What is this? I´m eager to know, is there any reliable source for this or is it just a story??

Bouffier posted it on Facebook. He wrote exactly that: another team has an engine in their truck but they didn't not want to help him ("Une autre équipe en a un dans son camion mais ne souhaite pas nous aider").

Bryan Bouffier - Page Officielle | Facebook (http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Bouffier-Page-Officielle/148123678606489?hc_location=timeline)

[Jeppe]

Bouffier posted it on Facebook: "Une autre équipe en a un dans son camion mais ne souhaite pas nous aider".

Bryan Bouffier - Page Officielle | Facebook (http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Bouffier-Page-Officielle/148123678606489?hc_location=timeline)

Thank´s for the info. Anyway, it´s not always so simple as it seems.... Hope BB will be back stronger!!

[catty]

What utter nonsense !

1. Kopecky may not have won on gravel but he has huge experience and was usually only beaten by Hanninen
2. Breen is 9 years younger and has little gravel experience himself, being brought up on tarmac rallying in Ireland
3. He also has no gravel experience in the 207 and this was his first time in Azores and in horrendous conditions
4. The 207 is so old and is clearly inferior to the Skoda, not to mention out-gunned by the RRC Citroen & Ford
5. This is Breen's first season in IRC/ERC

And he should what ? Win the rally and the Championship ??
1. Matt Wilson also has lots of experience, does that mean he's winning rounds of the WRC? Kopecky is not a gravel driver in the same way that Panizzi was not a gravel driver

2. Breen has far more gravel experience than tarmac. He did not grow up on the Irish roads - he Contested the British, Irish and WRC Fiesta ST championship in his 1st year competing. 2 of these 3 are primarily gravel based championships. He also won the Irish junior championship that year, a series contested solely on gravel rendering your point well, pointless.

3. Breen has already completed 1,000s of kms in the 207, not to mention the 1,000's of kms testing the new 208 on gravel. It was his 1st time in Azores but then Meeke won it on his 1st visit

4. The 207 was updated last year and has was quick enough in the hands of Neuville (a tarmac driver) on gravel. Yes the DS3 is probably superior but it was being driven by a rallying novice with a total of no more than 500kms gravel experience in total

5. Its his first full season but he has done a few rounds before and is the current SWRC champion with 10's of thousands of kms experience in s2000 cars. To be taken seriously for a WRC works drive he really should be looking to win the championship this year - his only competition (for the overall title) are a driver not considered fast enough for a WRC drive and a novice

[catty]

Bouffier posted it on Facebook. He wrote exactly that: another team has an engine in their truck but they didn't not want to help him ("Une autre équipe en a un dans son camion mais ne souhaite pas nous aider").

Bryan Bouffier - Page Officielle | Facebook (http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Bouffier-Page-Officielle/148123678606489?hc_location=timeline)
Maybe Bouffier didnt have the money to pay for the engine and they didnt want to release the engine on credit?
That would be considered not helping.....

[RS]

For me, Breen did a good job to be best of the rest here.

Kopecky is obviously more at home on tarmac but when he is on the boil he can be pretty decent on gravel too (in the past here he was not far behind Hanninen and Mikelssen) From the footage we saw he was driving nicely.

At the moment I would say that Breen is more of a 'Wilks' than a 'Meeke'. Good but he needs a bit more...

[catty]

For me, Breen did a good job to be best of the rest here.

Kopecky is obviously more at home on tarmac but when he is on the boil he can be pretty decent on gravel too (in the past here he was not far behind Hanninen and Mikelssen) From the footage we saw he was driving nicely.

At the moment I would say that Breen is more of a 'Wilks' than a 'Meeke'. Good but he needs a bit more...
When you think about it thats a good comparison, in more ways than one!

[noel157]

Bouffier posted it on Facebook. He wrote exactly that: another team has an engine in their truck but they didn't not want to help him ("Une autre équipe en a un dans son camion mais ne souhaite pas nous aider").

Bryan Bouffier - Page Officielle | Facebook (http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Bouffier-Page-Officielle/148123678606489?hc_location=timeline)

High Noon in Corsica between Bouffier and the two engined team? Should be fun.

[noel157]

Duplicate post.

[Jarek Z]

Yes, High Noon in Corsica, "Bryan Bouffier vs The Two Engined Team" soon in theaters near you ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JTz43m7I4Jw/T3twIOMb6uI/AAAAAAAAApc/xZCKLRUdeKg/s1600/HighNoon5.9572.jpg

[Kielder]

Great Lavadinho's pics on Sousa's Facebook account:

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/37051_507254566004611_1931301756_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/228442_507247309338670_360701784_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/400721_507247842671950_1323332143_n.jpg
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420649_506002149463186_2028217879_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.506001422796592.1073741835.476267802436621&type=3

I found this one there too. A bit artificial, but the car looks powerful:

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/31566_504491626265062_968443160_n.jpg

[noel157]

Wallenwein's roll was, luckily, soft so to speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mEeE6Mk8biY#!

[shaperzrally]

IMO Breen is already familiar with the 207 and at least as fast as Kopecky on gravel. Do not forget in the case of Acores there was crazy weather during the recce too - not only during the rally itself - it was incredible hard to make correct pacenotes for a 1sttimer like Breen. Kopecky did this rally four times in the IRC years and that's one of the reasons why he won it know. No offence to Kopko though, he and Pavel did an awesome job not only on this rally but also in this season. The wisest decision for them is to compete on Corsica and achive a podium finish and then they can comfortable sit back and choose the rallys for the second half of the season where they will compete.

[RS]

No offence to Kopko though, he and Pavel did an awesome job not only on this rally but also in this season. The wisest decision for them is to compete on Corsica and achive a podium finish and then they can comfortable sit back and choose the rallys for the second half of the season where they will compete.

If he can finish without problems I am expecting a Kubica win on Corsica, and Kopecky will also have Basso to contend with there.. But what I really like about Kopecky this year is that instead of "collecting points for the team" and "not wanting to do any stupid mistakes" he is really going for it.. like on the final stage of Janner or here where he won the event also by winning the final stage instead of playing it too safe. I did think a win was possible for him on Azores, but I was pleasantly surprised that he really earnt it instead of just lucking into it.

Maybe this comes partly from the fact that he is really playing for himself as Skoda are not registered for any makes championship this year.

Perfect job so far, at this rate the championship will be easy.

[Jarek Z]

If he can finish without problems I am expecting a Kubica win on Corsica

Against Basso? You are very optimistic. Kubica is fast, but he makes mistakes in every single rally. Basso and Kopecky don't.

[thuGG]

Against Basso? You are very optimistic. Kubica is fast, but he makes mistakes in every single rally. Basso and Kopecky don't.

Yes, but most probably there will be a rally when he won't do a mistake, and it may be Corsica.

[RS]

Against Basso? You are very optimistic. Kubica is fast, but he makes mistakes in every single rally. Basso and Kopecky don't.

That's why I said "if he can finish without problems".

I think he can have the speed, Basso is in "only" a 207...

[PLuto]

Wonder if Bouffier promised not to go faster than the main driver of the team that had the spare engine would he have got it?... :)

I dont know how was the situation with Bryan, maybe other teams dont have spare engine? Or maybe Delta mechanics were trying to repair the old one?

[Luis Pacheco]

Unfortunately I did not witness the passage of this vehicle on the stages. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4686474610966&set=vb.1566933388&type=2&theater

It is a Marbella with a motorcycle engine. It is called Seat Marbella S1000. :)

[latek]

That's why I said "if he can finish without problems".

I think he can have the speed, Basso is in "only" a 207...

Kubica's turbo charged RRC will have great advantage on twisted, narrow Corsica stages. Kopecky and Basso can only sit and hope for his inconsistency. Pity that ERC is filled mainly by s2000 and not RRC cars - it would be much more interesting.

[RS]

Kubica's turbo charged RRC will have great advantage on twisted, narrow Corsica stages. Kopecky and Basso can only sit and hope for his inconsistency. Pity that ERC is filled mainly by s2000 and not RRC cars - it would be much more interesting.

They are too expensive, especially as they will be superseded already later this year by the R5s. Then ERC should get interesting...

[Mirek]

Kubica's turbo charged RRC will have great advantage on twisted, narrow Corsica stages. Kopecky and Basso can only sit and hope for his inconsistency. Pity that ERC is filled mainly by s2000 and not RRC cars - it would be much more interesting.

When running an RRC is 3x more expensive than S2000 than it's simple...

[latek]

I want to ask a question regarding Kopecky's car. After Acores rally, in Poland some say Jan won only because he had "much better car". Allegedly his engine is overpowered and has additional 50-60 hp over other s2000/rrc competitors. Can it be true? Is there something like the maximum power for engines that s2000/rrc manufactures must obey? To me it sounds unbelievable, but I don't know actually.

[dimviii]

nonsenses.maybe 4-5 bhp more.

[Mirek]

Yes, that's pure b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t. Engine of Kopecký is mechanically same with other up to date Fabias. The difference is in mapping but that's more about the torque curve than maximum power (torque is more important on gravel anyway), even there the difference isn't big. Anyway my estimation is that Kopecký has some +- 290 Hp. I don't believe 300+ numbers. DS3 of Kubica must have around 270-280 Hp but much more torque which means that Fabia's only real advantage shall be around maximum speed (on the other hand it hits the rpm limiter sooner). Jänner was extremely slippery, Acores too and in such conditions torque means more than power. Acores and Canarias are very twisty which also prefers torque over maximum power.

[dimviii]

I dont know how was the situation with Bryan, maybe other teams dont have spare engine? Or maybe Delta mechanics were trying to repair the old one?

the ''team'' must be Sainteloc?

On facebook Xavier Panseri: Back from a Rally Acores has forgotten very quickly Casse engine before departure :-( I wanted to thank the second team by rolling 207 S2000 on the Rally for his "sport" spirit, n 'who would neither rent nor sell, exchange, motor spare they had knowing that after the audits and filling their cars this engine was no use them. Ayant find other engines in France, it was impossible for us to deliver the Azores after a strike by the airline which has blocked the island for much of last week. Briefly this team wanted to kill us even before the departure of the rally. Too bad ... PS: When it says "exemplary" team, it provides emergency intercoms and even better if we have inadvertently forgotten to take, what can happen, there must be a sacred base or rather no honor to come ask the team for which refused any help two days before, to pay ...

[Mirek]

That's the more strange that until few months a go Bryan spent years as Peugeot factory driver.

[noel157]

Of course it was SaintEloc. As I said earlier, suppose one less driver for Breen to try and beat. Unfortunate. And even if Peugeot Sport said no to Chetail (or whoever was in charge of SaintEloc) I presume Bouffier wasn't told. Sounds from the information so far available that it was nothing more than selfish behaviour from SaintEloc..

[Luis Pacheco]

http://youtu.be/aKYThR-mF_g

[Kielder]

Hugo Magalhães has uploaded a full onboard of Coroa da Mata 2 (scratch with a time of 7:13.2). Sousa and him usually upload most of their onboards after each rally.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruqBRWf5Kvo

[Luis Pacheco]

Regarding the presence of a former world champion, during the rally we learn from the mouth of the president of the organization that should have been Marcus Gronholm. The presence did not materialize due to the refusal of his woman. She did not give permission. :D

[dimviii]

nice photos
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8264/8686200748_1c4e4c2a06_o.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8545/8685081911_ee35b7a566_o.jpg

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcT3BSpLkzQ

Part 2: ERC 2013 Portugal Inside - Part 2/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tblgfO0-3o)

[Luis Pacheco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mb7izJ8zNlU#at=13

[Luis Pacheco]

http://youtu.be/veVqa3TY2GE

[Jarek Z]

I want to ask a question regarding Kopecky's car. After Acores rally, in Poland some say Jan won only because he had "much better car". Allegedly his engine is overpowered and has additional 50-60 hp over other s2000/rrc competitors. Can it be true?

Don't believe what the so called "rally experts" in Poland say. Most of them are just storytellers ;)

[dimviii]

hahahahahahaha!!! excellent photo from Andre Lavadinho at Acores

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424425_178419212313602_954480153_n.jpg

[Luis Pacheco]

Taken from an azorean newspaper:

Inflation - Much has been talked about the episode of the refusal of the team that is running the Peugeot "official", the Santainloc to surrender to the Italians of DELTA, a motor car for Bryan Boufier. When we heard the French realizing the dire need of the Italians, inflated the price of the engine, and asked 90,000 euros for its sale, which would be rejected by the Italians, leaving the "standing" one of the great animators of proof, Bryan Boufier.

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96hppSrSx3M

[Mirek]

Lovely gallery of André Lavadinho: Autosport : ERC - Sata Rallye Aores (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=74&id=1103&autor=83)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c1902b717dd662a6dd62ee728512da85.jpg

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q23G7rhBc2Q&feature=player_embedded#at=110

[PLuto]

I wrote a small article about penalty for early check in into TC 2 of Antonin Tlustak. You can see on your eyes and make your own opinion - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15212)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMoCbkUqdc&feature=player_embedded#at=92

[mousti]

I wrote a small article about penalty for early check in into TC 2 of Antonin Tlustak. You can see on your eyes and make your own opinion - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15212)

Shouldn't it be automatically :51? Because between TC and Start u got always 3 minuten eventhough it's cancelled. Or do I misinterpret the translation?

[br21]

Shouldn't it be automatically :51? Because between TC and Start u got always 3 minuten eventhough it's cancelled. Or do I misinterpret the translation?
No, it's not always 3mins between time control and start of the stage. If stage goes "normal" gap may become bigger usually, if stage is canceled very often time is shorter than those 3mins.

[PLuto]

According to rules, between time controls and also between TC and start is minimum 3 mins gap. But, when you are ariving to start, you are giving your time card immediately to timekeeper. And it is timekeeper's discretion in which time they let you to start and which time they will write you into timecard...

[mousti]

Thought so that it's almost everywhere like that being Timekeeper in Belgium for several years now. And yeah timekeeper at the start should have seen that he must have started at 51 not 50. Quite weird in my opinion.

[Luis Pacheco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL-sJSXcYGw

[Luis Pacheco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dpIatWzqC8Y#at=46

[Luis Pacheco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iTf0x6NRFW0#!

[Luis Pacheco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6QPonf8Fd6Q

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdfAzfLa4PM

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwspNDWXy08