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shaitan
4th April 2007, 08:31
We can see that Subaru WRC always appear the mixed style--Over steering and Under steering.It's much higher than any other cars.It's such unstable must affect car's speed.The car must be lost lots of time to repair its line.I think it's not a good idear to drive.

Is it Subaru's style?I don't think so.
So how do you think about it?
Brother John
4th April 2007, 09:41
Itīs the taxi style! :D The Impreza is just a crap rally car for the last 3 years.
WRC2006
4th April 2007, 10:15
If I am not mistaken, the car is designed according to the driver's style. If I am right then, It is Petter who failed to design a reliable car for him.

So he doesn't have to blame anyone. Why is Loeb on top? Because he has a reliable car which suit also on his driving style.
WRC2006
4th April 2007, 10:15
Itīs the taxi style! :D The Impreza is just a crap rally car for the last 3 years.


Haaaaa!!!! The Impreza is a Tax Rally Car!!!!!
newaddict
4th April 2007, 19:31
i remember watching him always fooling with the diffs in the center console during stages- at every rally! he never seemed to "run the car" always adjusting it-this makes it hard for engineers to know his needs. always changing settings from stage to stage- imagine trying to build to this for new "homog."
nightmares for the guys I bet.

yeah Taxi is close, hehe
koko0703
4th April 2007, 22:08
Everything went wrong ever since they adopted new regulation of wider track, which was WRC2005.
duff
5th April 2007, 00:36
We can see that Subaru WRC always appear the mixed style--Over steering and Under steering.It's much higher than any other cars.It's such unstable must affect car's speed.The car must be lost lots of time to repair its line.I think it's not a good idear to drive.

Is it Subaru's style?I don't think so.
So how do you think about it?

I think its a little of both. He's driving the wheels off a car thats not quite good enough.
Gard
5th April 2007, 16:41
If I am not mistaken, the car is designed according to the driver's style. If I am right then, It is Petter who failed to design a reliable car for him.

So he doesn't have to blame anyone. Why is Loeb on top? Because he has a reliable car which suit also on his driving style.

That was the problem, Petter or his driving style wasn't much involved with the design. It was just laptop engineers doing their thing and wouldn't listen to drivers.
COD
5th April 2007, 20:33
The fact that they must run it higher is an indication of a problem in he suspension. I think Gard is close, the designers used computers and had no idea of reality
janneppi
5th April 2007, 21:22
That was the problem, Petter or his driving style wasn't much involved with the design. It was just laptop engineers doing their thing and wouldn't listen to drivers.
To me that sound incredible, to pay bucket loads of money to a driver and then he wouldn't have a say in how the car should behave. If that's the case(which i don't really buy into that much) it says sad things about Petter, he should demand a say in the matters and walk away from the team if not allowed. Unless of course he was happy to get the money buckets and poodle along the stages looking pretty. ;)
jidoka
5th April 2007, 23:32
The Discovery channel show offered a good insight. In show 3 I noticed a few things.
1.FX saying something along the lines of he priorities driver feedback as opposed to telemetry feedback.
2. Petter saying that he can't do any thing more with the car. He couldn't go any lower and he had no more damping settings left.

I seem to remember him adjusting the car with the centre console when he set the stage record on Ouninpohja a few years ago.
I think Petter is doing the best with what he has.
Gard
6th April 2007, 01:03
The Discovery channel show offered a good insight. In show 3 I noticed a few things.
1.FX saying something along the lines of he priorities driver feedback as opposed to telemetry feedback.
2. Petter saying that he can't do any thing more with the car. He couldn't go any lower and he had no more damping settings left.

I seem to remember him adjusting the car with the centre console when he set the stage record on Ouninpohja a few years ago.
I think Petter is doing the best with what he has.

And FX said other engineers would laugh at him for doing that. Actually all teams depends on laptop engineers (I'm sort of one myself). They just need to learn and adapt their skills to wrc cars and get ALL the parameters. Shurely Citroen and Ford has as many laptop engineers too. Or how is it Pentti and BJ?
jidoka
6th April 2007, 01:13
Very good, I'm training to be an engineer myself. I also think the teams couldn't function without the laptop engineers. It's all about using the right information. Be it computer or driver generated.