Rally Acropolis

[jonkka]

Great drama from the start :D

Greek drama... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Mikko and Seabastien in problems too ??? :eek:

[stefanvv]

Ogier & Hirvonen on the move again OMG (which one:confused :)

[Sulland]

Are there new tyres for Acropolis this year, is it punctures we see?

[rallye-vid]

Put the SIT people on the stage and let them eat the dust!

[Tom206wrc]

Nasser for the win.

No, Sordo :p :
Or Novikov :confused:

[Mintexmemory]

Greek drama... :)

Go to your room and don't crack jokes like that again for the rest of this rally!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica fastest of WRC2 after 3 splits ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier stopped for good? Overtaken by Al-Kuwari.

[stefanvv]

No, Sordo :p :
Or Novikov :confused:

That what happens when Ogier finally hits trouble :D

[Tom206wrc]

No split for Sordo anymore :confused:

[Allyc85]

Novikov smashed them!!

[Mintexmemory]

I don't believe Novikovs 6th split!

[stefanvv]

Novikov made what a time, he can cruise to the win now and doesn't crash :D

[andyone]

oooh Novikov.. now he needs to slow down and just keep the pace.

[Mintexmemory]

That what happens when Ogier finally hits trouble :D

Did he find the rock that was meant for JML?

Anyone care to bet that the 1-2-3 order after this stage is not how it will end ;)

[stefanvv]

Ahhh, technical problems for Ogier

[Rallyper]

This is what we said a couple of days ago. Seb can´t win all the time. Now it´s his turn to experience problems...

[stefanvv]

The Gods are not in the mood today

[rallye-vid]

(74 - Kubica Robert / Baran Maciej): stopped in SS :(

[makinen_fan]

Did he find the rock that was meant for JML?

Anyone care to bet that the 1-2-3 order after this stage is not how it will end ;)

Not so sure about Evgeny keeping it on the road and JML not hitting the hidden rocks

[Mintexmemory]

This is what we said a couple of days ago. Seb can´t win all the time. Now it´s his turn to experience problems...

Are you absolutely sure he won't win from superrally, it's only 2 stages. ;)

[Mintexmemory]

Not so sure about Evgeny keeping it on the road and JML not hitting the hidden rocks
Mikkelsen has been nominated to take a rock for the team!!!

[Tom206wrc]

(74 - Kubica Robert / Baran Maciej): stopped in SS :(


:confused:

[rallye-vid]

Saw this info.. But he continues

[stefanvv]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Akropolis/Berichterstattung/2013/20130531/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20130531-8215-max-VW-WRC-2013-06-DR2-0048.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Akropolis/Berichterstattung/2013/20130531/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130531-8286.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Akropolis/Berichterstattung/2013/20130531/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130531-8293.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Akropolis/Berichterstattung/2013/20130531/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20130531-8218-max-VW-WRC-2013-06-DR2-0064.jpg

[stefanvv]

Ogier continues tomorrow

[Mintexmemory]

Awesome stuff there Stefan

[Mintexmemory]

Is there a tyre change before SS2?

[rallye-vid]

(4 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): The wheel fell off...

[makinen_fan]

Is there a tyre change before SS2?

There is service between SS1 and 2

[Rallyper]

Are you absolutely sure he won't win from superrally, it's only 2 stages. ;)

It wouldn´t surptise me. But then I´ll stop follow WRC for a while (except for NORF)...

[Tom206wrc]

Are you absolutely sure he won't win from superrally, it's only 2 stages. ;)


Exactly my opinion too... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Acropolis promises to be destructive for Junior Fiesta R2s... :s

[wwbroe]

What a start for this rally, both super favourites are allready out of contention now. Alltough you never now with this superrally system. :D

[stefanvv]

Awesome stuff there Stefan

10x, small compensation for me as I finally couldn't go

[Fly_Half]

Looking at some of the images appearing from the event already, I'm starting to feel physically ill I couldn't make it...

[wwbroe]

Kubica by far fastest man in WRC 2, even tough he went of the road into a ditch because of the dust.

[stefanvv]

It was difficult on this one, what it would be on the night stage :confused:

[stefanvv]

Kubica by far fastest man in WRC 2, even tough he went of the road into a ditch because of the dust.

Looks like he's going into tough gravel really quick

[Hartusvuori]

Ogier out because of fuel pump failure, says Tomi Tuominen.

[Sulland]

What was left of Østbergs damaged corner?
Was it just the wheel that came off, or was more attached?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Latvala says that handbrake failure again.

[makinen_fan]

Latvala says that handbrake failure again.

Not complete failure, it overheats in twisty sections and does not work as supposed to.

[Tom206wrc]

Tidemand in Junior Fiesta SS1 :confused:
Edit: Burri Jr in problems too from split 2... :mark:

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Okay, was this the new type of handbrake?

[makinen_fan]

What was left of Østbergs damaged corner?
Was it just the wheel that came off, or was more attached?
Something like this as I understand it:
eWRC.cz - po všech stránkách rally… (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=118871)

[makinen_fan]

Okay, was this the new type of handbrake?

Yes they are using the hydraulic from now. So, it is not so well tested so far. Can they rehomologate the parts to improve it from next event?

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/981276_10151644519668728_193581602_o.jpg

[Rallyper]

Acropolis promises to be destructive for Junior Fiesta R2s... :s

If I was teamboss for Juniors I´d say they should just cruise for the first stage today.

[Rallyper]

@Dimviii, atsotrias79, tolis// So my greek friends out there. Tell me how the first stage was. I reccon the passed same place we were at last year...?

[vino_93]

Is Athanassoulas out ? He was doing good time, fastet of all class 3 cars, and following slowest S2000. :(

[wwbroe]

Is Athanassoulas out ? He was doing good time, fastet of all class 3 cars, and following slowest S2000. :(

He seems to be out of the rally, website says retired on SS1 :(

[stefanvv]

Okay, was this the new type of handbrake?

Yes - the hidraulic one, and he had to reverse in the beginning in the stage if I understood correctly. Well, that must be good time for these problems

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Now max attack and HANAAAAAA JARI-MATTI HANAAAA!!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just got my phone working & saw the info from SS1 ...WTF ??!!

[stefanvv]

Now max attack and HANAAAAAA JARI-MATTI HANAAAA!!!!

He is the favourite for the win now I think ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hope Novikov keeps the lead... it would be great a Ford win...

But it wont happen :(

[andyone]

Yap latvala is the one. Three way battle there sordo is soo hungry for a win and he is good novikov might keep the clear

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[stefanvv]

Yap latvala is the one. Three way battle there sordo is soo hungry for a win and he is good novikov might keep the clear

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Well, I would exclude Sordo right away, with Novikov though there are some unknown variables with car strength

[Barreis]

Hardly ford will finish without problems.

[mrakili]

maybe I am over the moon, but where is Kosciuzsko?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Well, same thing with our Jari-Matti :D

[makinen_fan]

maybe I am over the moon, but where is Kosciuzsko?

Not running! No more Mini

[rallye-vid]

maybe I am over the moon, but where is Kosciuzsko?

He is changing the car (fiesta instead of mini) and did only the recce now.

[makinen_fan]

Is Athanassoulas out ? He was doing good time, fastet of all class 3 cars, and following slowest S2000. :(

Yes, out with broken wishbone

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969390_10152925583610045_1584667260_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

SS2 should be live now

[stefanvv]

4 minutes of gap between the cars due to dust combined with darkness

[PLuto]

SS2 should be live now

SS 2 is live... Rally Acropolis 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rally-acropolis-2013/?ssId=1721)

[Tom206wrc]

OK SS2 on way... :cool:

[PLuto]

4-minutes gaps between the crews, I am happy that I am not spectator there...

[stefanvv]

Is the starting order for tomorrow changes?

[SashaIF]

Novikov again flying!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Come on Novi keep it going !! :)

[hari]

Some pictures from SS1:

http://www.ir7.at/ac9.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/ac10.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/ac11.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/ac12.jpg

[stefanvv]

I miss Ogier a little :D

[Tom206wrc]

Sordo too slow compared to Novikov/Latvala ;(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2nd stage win for Novikov in the Ford ... real happy for him and Ford M-Sport, especially after Ostberg's disappointment...

Good times, well at least for now ! :)

[wwbroe]

Great time again for Evgeny Novikov, leading the Rally of Gods into the night.

[stefanvv]

Kubica is moving fast still, I hope he keep it on

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Now max attack and HANAAAAAA JARI-MATTI HANAAAA!!!!

No, he cant beat Novikov tonight ! :p

Sordo flies but cant match him either ... ;)

http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/3df61586ca2711e2abd122000ae907cd_7.jpg

Novikov flies higher !! :D

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0571.jpg

[Raini]

Is it the first time for Novikov to lead the rally?

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica is moving fast still, I hope he keep it on

Keep it up Kubi' :bounce:

[Barreis]

Top 5 must retire that Sordo can win.

[Mintexmemory]

Looking at some of the images appearing from the event already, I'm starting to feel physically ill I couldn't make it...

2015?

[stefanvv]

Great stuff by Novikov, I'm more than impressed. This Rally seems to suit him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great stuff by Novikov, I'm more than impressed.

Me too, but its early days ... he is often super fast, then crashes ... great chance for him to prove he's learned some lessons...

[stefanvv]

Me too, but its early days ... he is often super fast, then crashes ... great chance for him to prove he's learned some lessons...

Lets hope the car is with him too, interesting day is going to be tomorrow

[Allyc85]

Come on Novikov, great first day. I wish I had a bit of faith that he can keep it up though!

[rallye-sport]

SS1 update -> Photos Rallye de Grèce 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-grece-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0557.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0610.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

So many pickems have Ogier, Hirvonen, Ostberg in some order as 1-2-3. This is a fascinating event already - Hans, Fritz (or whatever JML's mechanics are called) get the verdamt handbrake fixed, schnell!!!

[A FONDO]

So many pickems have Ogier, Hirvonen, Ostberg in some order as 1-2-3. This is a fascinating event already - Hans, Fritz (or whatever JML's mechanics are called) get the verdamt handbrake fixed, schnell!!!

Actually the VW crew is international with almost no germans, there was an article but I cant find it now

[Mintexmemory]

Actually the VW crew is international with almost no germans, there was an article but I cant find it now
Please don't let the facts get in the way of perfectly good anglo-german stereotypical banter :)

The thought occurs to me that just like the F1 forum has 'donkey of the race' we should have a 'sick dog of the rally' nomination!
BTW my T-shirt arrived yesterday

[hari]

More pictures from Day 1:

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_acropolis_rallye_2013_1.php

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2013/acropolis/bestof1/h24.jpg

[noel157]

Helluva of a day! Hey, maybe it was all sabotage.. :)

Can some kind person remind me of R2 rules? Ok 5 minutes for every missed stage on the day but how is the stage time decided that the crew retired from? Nominal, slowest class time or...?

TIA.

[stefanvv]

So many pickems have Ogier, Hirvonen, Ostberg in some order as 1-2-3. This is a fascinating event already - Hans, Fritz (or whatever JML's mechanics are called) get the verdamt handbrake fixed, schnell!!!

They're all called Uwe actually :D - https://www.rallytheworld.com/en/wrc-vw-rally-argentinien-uwe/content

[Barreis]

No c2 s1600 on finish of SS1?!

[Kielder]

http://i7.minus.com/ibstS63VmeDifu.jpg
http://i5.minus.com/iI9LnlyxnNSh8.jpg
http://i7.minus.com/izksotB6v7yjj.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/972334_10151491064620678_1865428543_n.jpg
http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/05/31/130531094628512378.jpg

[Kielder]

:bounce:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrgnqQSg3p0

[Kielder]

It looks like a war scene...

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/615271lesspectateurseuxsontvictimesdelapoussiereph otoafp.jpg

[dimviii]

@Dimviii, atsotrias79, tolis// So my greek friends out there. Tell me how the first stage was. I reccon the passed same place we were at last year...?

yes as last years.Cant write a lot,just came back and have just 5 hours sleep only.At first stage Ogier passed much faster than anyone without hesitate at a section with brakes from 6th speed to change direction at downhill at 45 degrees.
Tiedman very impressive!

[tommeke_B]

yes as last years.Cant write a lot,just came back and have just 5 hours sleep only.At first stage Ogier passed much faster than anyone without hesitate at a section with brakes from 6th speed to change direction at downhill at 45 degrees.
Tiedman very impressive!

You need only 3 hours of sleep! :p

[PLuto]

Start list to second leg - Rally Acropolis 2013 - Start order - leg 2 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rally-acropolis-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=322)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_5d34ec8188.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_c87ae6dd93.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_3192fb0f08.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_4d18080387.jpg

More photos from evening and night HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1156)

[Vaggelis27]

WRC Acropolis rally 2013 ss2 Kineta night - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNjR4qZPyAI&feature=youtu.be)

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyz-a0trbrM

[jonkka]

Is it the first time for Novikov to lead the rally?

Yes.

[WRC1]

Latvala!!!! i hope this is not tooo fast...

[6789]

Yay - looks like we're in for a battle today :)

[jonkka]

Yeh - though I think Novikov makes the mistake sooner than Latvala when they go at that pace.

[WRC1]

i would wish both, Novikov and Latvala can fight until finish line without mistakes....but i am afraid Sordo will be the smart winner...

[rage82]

Yeh - though I think Novikov makes the mistake sooner than Latvala when they go at that pace.

Let's see Novikov told on the radio that he's just following Latvala's splits and he can go just a little bit faster if needed.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Who will go off first Latvala or Novikov?

[jonkka]

No 1st split for Novikov?

[jonkka]

That was it, following splits et al... :eek:

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Novikov lost more than 3 minutes

[arko5]

^^ over 3 min lost. Puncture?

[SashaIF]

Kubica said that Novikov had puncture

[bluuford]

Looks like Protasov in the dust of Novikov

[SashaIF]

Kubica said that Novikov had puncture, and change the right rear wheel

[SashaIF]

No everything lost for Novikov.
Everybody could have a puncture!

[andyone]

not a problem puncture.. then he should still give us someawesome show. and why is ogier very slow..

[jonkka]

Mikko's time is missing...

edit - nope, it's there...

[jonkka]

Novikov losing more

[Rallyper]

Colin, it´s huge disappointment for every rallylover. Novikov deserves a win!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ford curse strikes again... :(

[stefanvv]

I just woke up and what do I see, well shame for Novikov really, but... may be expected a little.

Anyway congratulations for VW for their 50th stage win out of 95!

[arko5]

Beautiful fight between Latvala and Sordo :)

[dupanton]

Looks like Mikkelsen was 3' late at the start of SS6. He got a 30 seconds penalty and dropped to 5th behind Al-Attiyah

[stefanvv]

Looks like Mikkelsen was 3' late at the start of SS6. He got a 30 seconds penalty and dropped to 5th behind Al-Attiyah

SS6 cleared for @AMikkelsenRally (http://www.twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally) at @AcropolisRally (http://www.twitter.com/AcropolisRally), saying: "We tried to fix the brakes and checked in late. Looking forward to service."

[stefanvv]

Beautiful fight between Latvala and Sordo :)

You mean Sordo is not much of a challenge so Latvalla to push over limits :)

[pino]

Too bad for Novikov, but Matti leading is always a great news 😜

[Mirek]

VW triple on SS7...

[giedriusr]

Was there in 2010. Was amazing experience.

[Hartusvuori]

Khalid gone off road, via @The_Rally_Guru

[Hartusvuori]

Same source, puncture for Hirvonen.

[jonkka]

Thx Hartus

[wwbroe]

No splits for Thierry Neuville?

Edit: but he is trough the stage, so no problem

[Mihai]

Must be Nasser's best WRC drive ever so far. He really is competitive in these rough rallies.

[SashaIF]

Novikov is flying again!

[EightGear]

Sordo: "It was really rough, you can't do a second pass on this kind of stage, it is a lottery."

Novikov: "Yes it was OK, quite rough but in these conditions you can go flat out too, at least for me."

:D

[Bartek]

Citroen have very good drivers but for second seat, Sordo is losing a lot and Hirvo - Hirvo is Hirvo...

For team which won everything, this year is really tough

[Mintexmemory]

Citroen have very good drivers but for second seat, Sordo is losing a lot and Hirvo - Hirvo is Hirvo...

For team which won everything, this year is really tough


I repeat my analysis from the start of the season - Citroen are the first team to consist of joint number 2s (constantly wondering when No1 feels like turning up)
As for Sordo's last quote - JML didn't seem to find a second pass problematic! (still waiting for his rock to turn up ;) )

[A FONDO]

I repeat my analysis from the start of the season - Citroen are the first team to consist of joint number 2s

I said it too, in a bit rougher words though :D

But now they seem more like number 3s :dozey:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice to see Novikov still daring to go hard and winning two more stages. Such a pity the puncture wrecking the rally for him and us... :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikko doesnt look too happy with the day .. :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLryfSYCMAEcI5g.jpg

[Duvel]

No splits for neuville?

Ok he is at the finish, not a bad time to.

[rallye-vid]

Great 2 days for Kubica :s mokin:

[hari]

Some pictures from Day 2:

http://www.ir7.at/ac21.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/ac22.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/ac23.jpg


http://www.ir7.at/ac24.jpg

More pictures Day 1 + Day 2:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_acropolis_rallye_2013_1.php

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No wonder Mikko is fed up ... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLsEomFCcAA_hOo.jpg

[rallye-sport]

Day 2 Update -> http://www.rallye-sp...-de-grece-2013/ (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-grece-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0940.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0112_0.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0697.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_0814.jpg

[dimviii]

just came back from today stages.
Not happy from what i watched at stages....but we will discuss it after the rally.
Suarez and Tideman absolutely flat out at every stage.Souarez a bit better today at where i watched,big balls from both.Very good passes from Fuchs.Kubica some times perfect(specially at fast parts) some not good(slow ones)
Mikkelsen ...dissapointed about his driving.Dont know if he is ok with his polo about setup,but seems to be a different driver from the one with fabia we watched last year.
Strange Acropolis with rain(today at Ziria2) and very cold weather at last night stage.
Dissapointed about the level of top drivers except Ogier,where he pushed he was perfect.

[vino_93]

Why all stages of the afternoon cancelled for Junior ? Will they run tomorrow ?

[Ucci]

Great 2 days for Kubica :s mokin:

I pray for Robert to come to the finish line!!!! I can't imagine how hard must be for him to steer the car with just one hand.....Robert, you are Nr.1 !! :)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-aehnPiqw8&feature=player_embedded

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLsxcnlCUAAwJ1T.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

DAY2
[GALLERY PHOTOS]
Wrc Acropolis Rally of Greece 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/grece-acropole-2013/)

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nCl8VpLIdM

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASk3kYuPjN0

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_df9db902f8.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_6a2463da2f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_986d2c898c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_f0519b07db.jpg

More photos from Saturday HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1156)

[A FONDO]

http://www.almrally.ru/novikov-photo/fotolist/?idgroup=53016

http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?idgroup=52918

[Mintexmemory]

Morning GuysWill Neuville catch Sordo? and will the rock catch JML (please no!)

[jonkka]

No but Mikkelsen will catch Nasser.

[Mintexmemory]

No but Mikkelsen will catch Nasser.

Certainly if he maintains this pace. VW 1-2-3 in power stage?

[jonkka]

VW 1-2-3 in power stage?

I don't think so. Evgeny will have something to say to that, I reckon...

[Mintexmemory]

I don't think so. Evgeny will have something to say to that, I reckon...
True but the Ogier splits running first on the road are quite impressive, is this tyre-save run for Mikko and Evgeny right now? We'll see, Mikkelsen seems to have found the right set-up at last

[jonkka]

No need to save tyres if they just have spares in service, which is next.

[stefanvv]

Doesn't PS FTW idea look really stupid now :confused:

[rallye-vid]

Not only now. It was, it is and it will be a very stupid idea.

[Mintexmemory]

Doesn't PS FTW idea look really stupid now :confused:
Absolutely, but anyone with half a brain knew that anyway. Not saying any more as I don't want to be a jinx!

Yo Mikkelsen!

[stefanvv]

I know, but what would Capito would think of it now :confused:

[rallye-vid]

Mikkelsen with a stage win, nice :)

[stefanvv]

Great job by Mikkelsen :s mokin:

[Mintexmemory]

No need to save tyres if they just have spares in service, which is next.
Thanks, I meant that they have saved their optimum set for the last 2 stages, so we couldn't get a clear picture of how the PS will pan out

[Tom206wrc]

Morning GuysWill Neuville catch Sordo? and will the rock catch JML (please no!)


And will Kubica at last reac an end of rally ??? ;)

[Mintexmemory]

And will Kubica at last reac an end of rally ??? ;)
Hope so, he has been a class above all other WRC2 competitors in Greece

[rallye-vid]

Sure. He isn't pushing anymore ;)

[stefanvv]

Well, the last time was the car, but I wish him good luck, he deserves it

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some great photo's for Novikov fans on that ALM website... thanks. :)

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/novikov-photo/53016/53105.jpg

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/novikov-photo/53016/53020.jpg

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/novikov-photo/53016/53046.jpg

- 2013 - - (http://www.almrally.ru/novikov-photo/fotolist/?idgroup=53016)

[lcd]

Reports say a fan Is hit by Alexander Villanueva and Is being transported to the hospital with helicopter. SS12 Loutraki 1 Is temporarily stopped...Let's hope It's nothing serious for the fan or crew.[url=http://www.protothema.gr/car-and-speed/article/?aid=283115]Î*Ï

[EightGear]

Can Hirvonen catch Prokop on the PS? 30.14 km. to catch up 31.9 seconds..

[rallye-vid]

Possible

[stefanvv]

Looks like yes

[A FONDO]

31 seconds? I see 70 in ewrc

[rallye-vid]

Well, different times on wrc.com and rally-base.com ..

[Medved]

May be Prokop's time is bad, 8:25,2 could be good.

[rallye-vid]

Mikkelsen slower than Nasser ..

Edit - not anymore

[EightGear]

31 seconds? I see 70 in ewrc

Might be that Prokop's time on SS13 was wrong on wrc.com

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov puncture on the PS... and now for Ostberg too !

Ford jinx strikes again. :(

[vkangas]

Aargh JML's split missing...

[stefanvv]

Might be that Prokop's time on SS13 was wrong on wrc.com

On WRR said it is wrong time

[A FONDO]

Can Hirvonen catch Prokop on the PS? 30.14 km. to catch up 31.9 seconds..

He put him 32,4 :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Østberg on Italy next: "I don't care anymore I will go flat out till I get to the end...."

Hope he gets some luck there - he deserves it.

[stefanvv]

Neuville is "flying Belgian" :D

[Mintexmemory]

Nearly there (mind the rock!!

[stefanvv]

Novikov with puncture at the end will get at least a point from PS

[rallye-vid]

(6 - Al-Attiyah Nasser / Bernacchini Giovanni): I am so happy with the performance of the Ford. I am really happy, we continue with the team and we support the team. For me and Thierry Neuville it was an incredible weekend.

[stefanvv]

Nearly there (mind the rock!!

Looks like it's been there after all, but nevermind, brilliant job JML, Congrats

[vkangas]

Great drive Jari-Matti! :)

[Mintexmemory]

Well the Championship might just be a fight now :)

[rallye-vid]

Great Robert! You did it! :D

[stefanvv]

:D
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Akropolis/Berichterstattung/2013/20130602/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130602-9449.jpg

[6789]

Great drive Jari-Matti Latvala. Now lets hope he can do the same in Finland!

[bluuford]

Nice to see that Kubica finally did it. it took him six real rallies to finally find the speed to reach till the end. Good drive by Protasov as well. His first rally with RRC, little testing and the result is very clear second place.. best of the rest.
An JML, finally, we have three different winners in 2013. Now it is Ostbergs time:-)

[makinen_fan]

Nice to see finally JML and Kubica taking a win.

Although the rally in general was over way too early, and with no interest. Although the drama of SS1 partly make up for the rest of it

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good job boys... well deserved wins.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLwlio0CQAE1ltW.jpg

[hari]

What a great rally!

Some pictures from Day 3:

http://www.ir7.at/ac41.jpg



http://www.ir7.at/ac42.jpg



http://www.ir7.at/ac43.jpg

More pictures Day 1 + 2 + 3:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_acropolis_rallye_2013_1.php

[amilk]

Congrat to JML. It will be interesting to see if Citroen will run next year what will be the driver line up. They need drivers more hungry to the win.

[MJW]

Congrat to JML. It will be interesting to see if Citroen will run next year what will be the driver line up. They need drivers more hungry to the win.

JML is contracted to VW next year. If Citroen run my guess is Sordo and Kubica. Mikko doesnt seem to want to be there.

[rallye-sport]

Day 3 Update -> Photos Rallye de Grèce 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-grece-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_1199.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_1634.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/grece-2013/img_1414.jpg

[spiderem]

mikko has half the point Ogier has, and less point than Loeb who did only half the rally he did... It is very worrying (or over??) for the championship...
what is even more disapointing is that he can't take any points in the PS. As said before, he looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore. I guess I have to choose a new favorite driver!

[spiderem]

no stage win for Mikko and Mads... some will say that road position didn't help but it didn't stop Ogier to do so...

[Nornbugger]

mikko has half the point Ogier has, and less point than Loeb who did only half the rally he did... It is very worrying (or over??) for the championship...
what is even more disapointing is that he can't take any points in the PS. As said before, he looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore. I guess I have to choose a new favorite driver!

Maybe you should get someone to pick one for you, you didnt pick so well this time :)

Great to see Latvala and Kubica bringing it home, amazed at the lack on balls shown by Sordo, what happened the bullish Sordo from the start of the season who was going to retire if he didnt win an event this year? He can hope all day that Ogier has problems on tar to gift him the chance of a softer win but he needs to show that he has the speed to run at the front, and that he has the guts to use it.

The only thing worse than Citroens driver line up this year is the reality that there is no one out there to improve it for next year, there are arguably better drivers but appart from Loeb, Ogier and Latvala I really dont think there is anyone with the talent and experience ready to step up :(

[Ucci]

My comment over results: Jari Mati Latvala fully deserved the win. Clean driving, no stupid attacks, no risking (still four best stage times, very good performance by him), definitely the best man over this weekend.
Sordo - a very positive surprise, he finaly woke up. Let's hope he will bring some more surprises over the second half of the season, as with the other driver from Citroen team I buried my expectations....
Neuville- to survive this terrible conditions (with Ford....) is a good result, especialy if you are on the podium.
Mikkelsen-very very fast today, otherwise he has to learn still a great deal of driving.
Al-Attiyah -this result was expected, he loves those conditions.
Ostberg- a lot of bad luck, but on the other hand he did not manage even one single best stage time. IMHO he was in the shadow of Novikov this weekend.
Miko Hirvonen - it makes no sense to comment his performance, after bad luck on friday he surrended himselve and was just on the ''cruise mode''.
Novikov- young Russian talent needs just some luck. The speed, the curage, the determination...he has it all....for me a future champion, but not with M-Sport car....
The least but not the last : Robert Kubica !! What a guy !! I admire the Pole-people started to lose hope for him (even on this forum !!), but he showed on the best way-convincing victory in WRC2 on the toughest rally of the season, on the surface, which he hardly knows. I was 100% that this moment will arrive, well done Robert! Congrats also to his co-driver, who is the only person, which knows what kind of effort is going through Robert...

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_8543ce1e4a.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_19664460ed.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_883a60d641.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1156/1156_acropolis_rally_of_greece_2013_025ccbe93f.jpg

More photos from Greece HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1156)

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=grrMxz-l0oo completely mad... :(

[EightGear]

Prokop's time on SS13 has been corrected, so now he is back in 7th. Hirvonen drops to 8th.

[Miika]

The only way Citroen can win anything this year is.. by protesting.


The Acropolis Rally stewards have received & rejected a formal protest from Citroen Racing against cars 7, 8 & 9 - The VW team.
https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/341238568380932099

[spiderem]

Maybe you should get someone to pick one for you, you didnt pick so well this time :)

Great to see Latvala and Kubica bringing it home, amazed at the lack on balls shown by Sordo, what happened the bullish Sordo from the start of the season who was going to retire if he didnt win an event this year? He can hope all day that Ogier has problems on tar to gift him the chance of a softer win but he needs to show that he has the speed to run at the front, and that he has the guts to use it.

The only thing worse than Citroens driver line up this year is the reality that there is no one out there to improve it for next year, there are arguably better drivers but appart from Loeb, Ogier and Latvala I really dont think there is anyone with the talent and experience ready to step up :(

Mikko is my fav driver since marcus left...

[spiderem]

The only way Citroen can win anything this year is.. by protesting.
what was the protest about?

[Fly_Half]

Just seen some videos on Facebook of some utterly insane fans.

[EightGear]

Citroen doesn't know the protest rules....

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/51ab810fc0855/51ab810fbae81-protest_citroen_vw.png

[Rasantes]

New protest...

http://i44.tinypic.com/foq0lw.jpg

[rallye-vid]

Sick dogs ;)

[MartijnS]

This should be the protest:



Citroen protest against VW for an alledged spare battery infringement on Friday evening

[MJW]

Capito, Sven and FX called to see the Stewards, the VW's and Citroen's are still in Parc Farme.

[EightGear]

Citroen already decided to protest on friday, that's one reason they told Sordo not to push too hard...

[Mintexmemory]

Well this is a very sad way for the rally to end. I'm sure Sordo hasn't been disadvantaged by the batteries on the Polos!

[Hartusvuori]

Do you get a deja vu? A Finn in a new team finally takes victory, only to loose it post-race- handing a debut victory for the runner-up. Rules are rules, but these things should be decided by driving. For Sordo's sake, forever number two, if this'd be his first and only victory, he'd be better without it.

[PLuto]

Well this is a very sad way for the rally to end. I'm sure Sordo hasn't been disadvantaged by the batteries on the Polos!

If there was something wrong with Polos, it is legal opportunity for other teams to make a protest. Citroen has done it, now we must wait for the result...

[BleAivano]

Do you get a deja vu? A Finn in a new team finally takes victory, only to loose it post-race- handing a debut victory for the runner-up. Rules are rules, but these things should be decided by driving. For Sordo's sake, forever number two, if this'd be his first and only victory, he'd be better without it.

Why have rules if teams should be allowed to not follow them?

What if the "decided by driving" means that the winner got benefits from violating the rules? Enough benefits to secure the victory?
Would it still be ok? Would it it still be a matter of decide by driving and where do you draw the line?

I also would like to point out that I am speaking in general terms and not about this case seems I don't really know what it is about.

[stefanvv]

How Citroen know about this :confused:

[Hartusvuori]

I also would like to point out that I am speaking in general terms and not about this case seems I don't really know what it is about.

General terms is what we all are now talking, not much info out yet. Decided by driving is meant to mean what it means. Driving and by the rules. Every time there are protests made it feels stupid, at least not best for the sport.

[stefanvv]

Citroen already decided to protest on friday, that's one reason they told Sordo not to push too hard...

That sounds really stupid. How do they know the protest will be regarded? Or is just an excuse Sordo can't win it by speed?

EDIT: Oh, on friday Novikov was still leading

[BleAivano]

General terms is what we all are now talking, not much info out yet. Decided by driving is meant to mean what it means.
Driving and by the rules. Every time there are protests made it feels stupid, at least not best for the sport.

I disagree, Protesting against a possible rule violation is not what makes the sport look stupid.
A team that purposely or by mistake violates the rules is what makes the sport look stupid.

Protests occurs in most sports why should rally be an exception.

I also think that protests sometimes is to set a precedence, if its ok for a team to do whatever they did then the other teams can do it as well.
Just look at F1 and compare the amount of protest between the top teams in F1 and WRC.

[MartijnS]

So did the VW's take an extra battery with them or am I misunderstanding something? ;)

[MJW]

So did the VW's take an extra battery with them or am I misunderstanding something? ;)
Lets wait and see, its 22:30 now in Greece and no official communication, VW must be confident they can defend, and Citroen equally confident.

[Hartusvuori]

I disagree, Protesting against a possible rule violation is not what makes the sport look stupid.
A team that purposely or by mistake violates the rules is what makes the sport look stupid.

Protests occurs in most sports why should rally be an exception.

I also think that protests sometimes is to set a precedence, if its ok for a team to do whatever they did then the other teams can do it as well.
Just look at F1 and compare the amount of protest between the top teams in F1 and WRC.

I meant everytime there's protests, some team has violated the rules and that's wrong and bad for the sport. Nothing against the concept of protesting.

[rallye-vid]

So did the VW's take an extra battery with them or am I misunderstanding something? ;)

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-magazin.de%2Frallyes%2Fwm%2Fnachrichten%2Fnews-detail%2Fd%2F2013%2F06%2F02%2Fcitroen-protest-vw-muss-zittern%2Findex.html)

Yea, but it looks like it's allowed to install the extra battery and the battery has to be in the car - which wasn't the case?

[MJW]

Cant see the logic in Citroen protesting Ogier's car if the issue was changing (to presumably a heavier and more powerful) battery in service before and for the night stage. Ogier's car was abandoned in stage 1 and awaiting recovery. Unless of course the night stage battery was fitted after qualifying stage and before SS1.

[stefanvv]

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-magazin.de%2Frallyes%2Fwm%2Fnachrichten%2Fnews-detail%2Fd%2F2013%2F06%2F02%2Fcitroen-protest-vw-muss-zittern%2Findex.html)

Yea, but it looks like it's allowed to install the extra battery and the battery has to be in the car - which wasn't the case?

So where it was - in the trunk?

[rallye-vid]

No idea ..

[stefanvv]

Ok, I see

[OldF]

The only thing I found from the sporting and specific regulations is:
WRC specific regulations, chapter 5.8 (http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/254A%20%282013%29.pdf)

“5.8 Electrical system
The nominal voltage of the electrical system including that of the supply circuit of the ignition must be retained. The addition of relays and fuses to the electrical circuit is allowed as is the lengthening or addition of electric cables.
Electric cables and their sleeves are free.

Battery
Make and type of battery:
The make, capacity and cables of the battery (ies) are free. (IMO several batteries are allowed)
The battery must be a dry battery.
The nominal voltage must be the same or lower than that of the standard production car.
The number of batteries laid down by the manufacturer must be retained. (Maybe this is the problem?)

Location of the battery(ies):
Its location is free.
If installed in the cockpit, the battery must be situated behind the base of the driver’s or co-driver’s seat.”

Btw, the pics from Acropolis rally I’ve seen on this thread are one of the most amazing rallying pics I’ve ever seen. :)

[tolis]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969483_10201305932069135_1068843886_n.jpg

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u41mkqXSDBw#!

[mousti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=grrMxz-l0oo completely mad... :(

Bunch of retards :s

[Rasantes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2LQYw6dazA&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) 6λ (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/341305083163729920) Heard from a VW representative that the protest is over an auxiliary/extra battery that they put in the cars for Parc Freme on a night.

[MartijnS]

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru 9m
Latvala still wins rally Greece @vwrallytheworld have confirmed there is no change to the results.

[WRC1]

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru 9m
Latvala still wins rally Greece @vwrallytheworld have confirmed there is no change to the results.


for god sake!! congratulations justice ;)