Brc 2013

[Fly]

First in, Jukka Korhonen + Citroen DS3 R3T

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459866774052808&set=a.315646265141527.73330.190045847701570&type=1&theater

Surely a contender for the title.

[Tom206wrc]

Is Korhonen the "Pirelli Junior Driver" for 2013 :confused:

[Hartusvuori]

JK Rally Team » Korhonen vows to win 2013 BRC (http://www.jukkakorhonen.net/uutiset/korhonen-vows-to-win-2013-brc/)



Reigning MSA British Rally Championship Pirelli Star Driver Jukka Korhonen has announced today that he aims to be the first Finn to win the BRC since Marko Ipatti in 2000. The declaration came at the launch of his 2013 programme at the Helsinki Finnish Motorsport Show, where he unveiled the Citroën DS3 R3T in which he and co-driver Marko Salminen plan to make their assault on the championship.
The 28 year old from Siikajarvi will contest all seven rounds of the BRC, as well as Rally Finland, at the wheel of the DS3 run by the UK’s Autosport Technology, the team behind Keith Cronin’s 2012 BRC title.

Bringing plenty of rallying experience, he first competed in the British Rally Championship in 2011, when a one-off appearance on the Pirelli Rally was sufficient to secure him a place in the Pirelli Star Driver Shootout – proving his pace there with victory.

Now, with a season at the wheel of his Pirelli-funded Skoda under his belt, he says that he is ready for a title assault:

- My focus next year will be the British Championship. It is an important step to move forward in rallying and I am looking forward to driving the Citroën DS3 and working with Autosport Technology. They have proved many times that they can win and I think together we can take the title.

- I have made my first test with DS3 on gravel and the feeling of the car was impressive. Now I know why these cars were quite much faster than R2 class cars I drove this year.

1999 British Rally Champion driver Tapio Laukkanen was at the launch and said:

- We Finns have been drawn to rallying in Britain for many years and I think it is still the best domestic championship in the world. The move to two wheel drive has revitalised the series and I believe that it is the best place for up and coming drivers.

- I obviously hope that Jukka can add his name to the trophy. It has been a long time since me, Kaj (Lindström) and Marko (Ipatti) won and even longer for Pentti (Airikkala), Hannu (Mikkola) and Ari (Vatanen).

[Mintexmemory]

First in, Jukka Korhonen + Citroen DS3 R3T

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459866774052808&set=a.315646265141527.73330.190045847701570&type=1&theater

Surely a contender for the title.

Mmmm, *rubs chin* not if Elfyn Evans and Keith Cronin are competing, although Jukka looked to be on the same pace as Cave and Price when I saw him on the Pirelli and the Trackrod. Possibly EE and KC will focus on ERC if they can get a budget.

[AndyRAC]

Keith Cronin & Elfyn Evans hopefully won’t be in the BRC – they’ve moved on from that – they should be doing International events. And, what’s happened to Bogie??

[noel157]

Keith Cronin & Elfyn Evans hopefully won’t be in the BRC – they’ve moved on from that – they should be doing International events. And, what’s happened to Bogie??

Exactly, no point in doing BRC again, the pair need to get on the boat to Europe.

[Tom206wrc]

Have you got names of irish/british drivers interested in the 208 R2 for 2013 BRC campaign :confused:

[Wasted Talent]

Mmmm, *rubs chin* not if Elfyn Evans and Keith Cronin are competing, although Jukka looked to be on the same pace as Cave and Price when I saw him on the Pirelli and the Trackrod. Possibly EE and KC will focus on ERC if they can get a budget.

I assume Evans will be doing the SWRC (or should I say WRC-2) in 2013 so no value in running in the BRC next year.....

WT

[rally.it]

Hello, we have interview Tom Cave. You can read the interview in English and Italian at Rally.it

[tolis]

Mark Donnely will drive the Pirelli Citroen DS3 R3T next year!

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[Sulland]

Why is the BRC so popular amongst the Finns?

[stefanvv]

Why is the BRC so popular amongst the Finns?

I thinkg because the age restistrictions in Finland

[Sulland]

I thinkg because the age restistrictions in Finland

What restrictions are that?

[stefanvv]

What restrictions are that?

18+ years I think

[mousti]

17 years. Reason why Mikkelsen went to GB I thought?

[Mintexmemory]

Licence available from 17 but the real reason is the nature of the events . The series is a combination of mixed condition gravel with some tarmac rounds. Ideal international experience, although from this next season the BRC is under National permit

[mousti]

Can someone put the calender of Irish and BRC here ? :)

[Mintexmemory]

As you wish - so be it!

2013 MSA British Rally Championship calendar Round 1: 6-7 April – Rally North Wales, Welshpool, (Gravel)
Round 2: 4-5 May - Pirelli Rally, Carlisle, Cumbria (Gravel)
Round 3: 30 May-1 June - Jim Clark Rally, Duns, Scottish Borders (Asphalt)
Round 4: 29 June – Scottish Rally, Dumfries (Gravel)
Round 5: 23-24 August - Rally NI, Northern Ireland (Asphalt)
Round 6: 28-29 September - Rally Yorkshire, Scarborough, North Yorkshire (Gravel)
Round 7: 19 October – Rallye Sunseeker, Bournemouth/Poole (Gravel)
I shall probably attend the Pirelli, Yorkshire and the Sunseeker.








Safety Direct Galway International Rally (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=61)

02-Feb to 03-Feb

http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=61






The Donnelly Group Circuit of Ireland Rally (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=62)
29-Mar to 31-Mar

http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=62






Cartell.ie International Rally of the Lakes (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=63)
04-May to 05-May

http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=63






Topaz Donegal International Rally (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=64)
21-Jun to 23-Jun

http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=64






Todds Leap Ulster Rally (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=65)
23-Aug to 24-Aug





Cork '20' International Rally (http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=66)
05-Oct to 06-Oct
http://www.irishtarmac.com/rallies2.cfm?strItmID=66

[mousti]

Thanks Mintex!

[Mintexmemory]

Sorry about the poor format for the Irish Tarmac Championship, but you can see the dates.

Although named differently in each calendar, the Todds Leap Ulster Rally is actually a round of both the British and the Irish Championships

[AndyRAC]

What do we think about the Sunseeker in October? Personally, I'd swap with the Rally NorthWales (The Bulldog), so that returns to it's October date, but they must have their reasons.

[Juha_Koo]

Why is the BRC so popular amongst the Finns?

Rallies are to some extent similar nature what in Finland with a good addition of tarmac events. UK is not too far and therefore budgets are reasonable. It's a known championship which gives good international experience and visibility. Maybe the new ERC will attract some Finns, but still, I believe it's more expensive than BRC and in the land of small budgets, it's never a good thing.

[Mintexmemory]

What do we think about the Sunseeker in October? Personally, I'd swap with the Rally NorthWales (The Bulldog), so that returns to it's October date, but they must have their reasons.

I've not seen any quoted reason, presumably it's tied up with forest availability. Ideally though I agree with you re. the dates

[Allyc85]

What do we think about the Sunseeker in October? Personally, I'd swap with the Rally NorthWales (The Bulldog), so that returns to it's October date, but they must have their reasons.

The Sunseeker has been fading as an event for a few years now so some kind of change was needed. Hopefully the new date and new rally base in Poole can get the event something like back towards how it used to be.

[MrJan]

The Sunseeker has been fading as an event for a few years now so some kind of change was needed. Hopefully the new date and new rally base in Poole can get the event something like back towards how it used to be.

I'm not so sure. Speaking to drivers it seems that the entry fees are stupid, it's a long way to travel for a lot of drivers and the stages cut up quite a lot....plus BRC events are a bit tepid now that they don't let real cars enter.

[Steve Boyd]

Sorry about the poor format for the Irish Tarmac Championship, but you can see the dates.

Although named differently in each calendar, the Todds Leap Ulster Rally is actually a round of both the British and the Irish Championships
I think you'll find that they are actually two different rallies even though they will be using the same stages on the same days and based in the same HQ. The restriction of the BRC to two wheel drive cars means they will run in a separate event from the ITRC. Last year there were 7 different events - ITRC, BRC, 2 × BRC Challenge, Historic, National & National Trophy.
Confusing isn't it? - but such is the state of modern rallies.

[tommeke_B]

plus BRC events are a bit tepid now that they don't let real cars enter.
A bit respectless, calling R3 and R2 cars "no real cars"... I would say it different, a real driver can drive with any car. ;)

[Mirek]

Tom, honestly, would You travel to watch only FWD cars on a muddy gravel event? I wouldn't. Any championship is nothing without spectators and those spectators needs spectacle...

[tommeke_B]

Tom, honestly, would You travel to watch only FWD cars on a muddy gravel event? I wouldn't. Any championship is nothing without spectators and those spectators needs spectacle...
Without the French DS3 Trophy, honestly, I wouldn't have done any of the 3 French events I did this year, and one gravel event was included in that as well... For me the quality of the drivers is the deciding factor (if else I could do the whole Dutch championship...) But of course for the occasional spectator it's interesting to have some nice cars, but the championship itself would suffer from lack of a good competition if you allow super-expensive cars... I would love to see the Belgian championship having less expensive cars as "top-class" in fact... :)

[Mirek]

Often there were hardly 20 cars in BRC this year so the simple cheap cars obviously didn't help much.

It may be just a coincidence but here in CZ the strongest entry fields were when WRC were allowed and the championship was by far most popular in its history. When they went for much cheaper gr.N cars spectators were gone and the entry lists didn't get better at all. Only when another expensive cars (S2000) came to scene all started to grow up again (until the tragic braking point).

[tommeke_B]

That's true... But for a real rallyfan or a real passionate driver, it doesn't really matter what the cars are, I think... :) Anyway if the sport can't survive in long-term it's no option... :) My point at first was a reaction on the "no real cars"-thing... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Yep...calling R2s and R3s "no real cars" I think it's people not having seen the battles of the group on stages :rolleyes:

[Wim_Impreza]

I think you'll find that they are actually two different rallies even though they will be using the same stages on the same days and based in the same HQ. The restriction of the BRC to two wheel drive cars means they will run in a separate event from the ITRC. Last year there were 7 different events - ITRC, BRC, 2 × BRC Challenge, Historic, National & National Trophy.
Confusing isn't it? - but such is the state of modern rallies.

This is the reason why I don't follow national or regional rallies in the UK and Ireland, even not behind the computer. It is a real pity that there are so much different events in the same weekend. The IRC Rally Scotland and the IRC Circuit of Ireland were nice to follow and I like the roads and the scenery.

[Tom206wrc]

Do you know if Citroën will organize a DS3 R1 Cup either in UK or/and in Ireland next season :confused:

[Steve Boyd]

Do you know if Citroën will organize a DS3 R1 Cup either in UK or/and in Ireland next season :confused:
No mention of it in either the BRC or BRC Challenge Regulations. There is a Citroën Trophy in the BRC but that is for R3 cars.

[Iain]

Yep...calling R2s and R3s "no real cars" I think it's people not having seen the battles of the group on stages :rolleyes:

It's good that the cars are very close, but they're just not very exciting to watch and listen to. Turbo cars can sound good, but the DS3s are so quiet and unspectacular.

[dupanton]

It's good that the cars are very close, but they're just not very exciting to watch and listen to. Turbo cars can sound good, but the DS3s are so quiet and unspectacular.

Obviously you never saw a DS3 in a fast section... On a square junction, they are rather boring (but as are Gr N cars of S2000!). But in a fast section, Well driven R3 and R2 cars are very spectacular, certainly the DS3!

[Mintexmemory]

Cronin / Clarke - Citroen DS3 3RT - Gale Rigg 2 - Rally Yorkshire 2012 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/8041199188/in/set-72157631664545715)

This is a shot I took of Keith Cronin at Rally Yorkshire, while BRC very much turned into 'Formula DS3' I was impressed by the skill and committment displayed by DS3 crews on both BRC rounds I attended last year. Evans was very spectacular in the R2 Fiesta.
The guys with WRC and other 4wd exotica have gone off to the BTRDA championship where (not to beat about the bush) deep pockets win out over skill (usually).
Steve Boyd's point about the Irish event needs clarification for non-UK residents. While the BRC and Irish Tarmac may be advertised as different events they take place over the same stages concurrently, have the same organising team, the same marshalls and to the spectator are all part of the same day's entertainment. In most cases the BRC is supplemented by a restricted distance beginner class and the Historic championship. You don't just go to see 20 cars, for many the BRC is an extra interest, additional to the main attraction of Escort Mk IIs

[Iain]

Obviously you never saw a DS3 in a fast section... On a square junction, they are rather boring (but as are Gr N cars of S2000!). But in a fast section, Well driven R3 and R2 cars are very spectacular, certainly the DS3!

I saw them on a hairpin
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7346283790_f52004f217_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iainw81/7346283790/)
Tom Cave - Craig Parry (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iainw81/7346283790/) by IainW81 (http://www.flickr.com/people/iainw81/), on Flickr

And a square junction
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7163712955_ba49ffd5b0_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iainw81/7163712955/)
Keith Cronin - Marshall Clarke (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iainw81/7163712955/) by IainW81 (http://www.flickr.com/people/iainw81/), on Flickr

To be fair, they were good to watch as the drivers threw them into the corners. It's the noise that's the problem. They just don't sound fast. Give me a high-revving Clio R3 over the DS3. Mark Donnelly's car was really good to listen to as it passed that square junction and went flat-out down the road into the distance.

It's not a rallying problem as such, touring cars have adopted turbos and they don't sound that good either. But it seems to be the way motorsport is going at the moment.

[BDunnell]

I still feel all of this is rather academic, because the wider viewing public would expect, surely, to see competing the same cars as populate the sport's very top level. Does anyone believe that the old British Open Championship would have achieved its stature had it been the preserve of cars one or two 'levels' below top-line World Championship machinery? Until the costs of today's top-line machinery are reduced, allowing them to be bought by a wider pool of drivers and again become a viable option for domestic series, the likes of the BRC are, I feel, always going to be of limited appeal.

[Tom206wrc]

I hope we will have more news about BRC 2013(entries)after this week-end's Autosport Show of Birmingham :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

On latest Peugeot-Sport Pressrelease they write one 208 R2 has been ordered in UK, another one in Ireland...news about the owners :confused:

[Cathal Quill]

Andy Slattery Is the one from Ireland. Don't know about the Uk one?

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Cathal ;)

[catty]

Hi all!
The UK 208 is also going to (Northern) Ireland.
Former Formula Ford festival winner Richard Tannahill

[Tom206wrc]

No more news about BRC 2013 entrants with one month to go before the first event(Rally North Wales) :confused:

[[WRCRR]]

The BRC media day is on 22.3., I am sure we will hear more news then.

[catty]

You could try the BRC website?
List of currently registered drivers (I've added the cars):
Jon ARMSTRONG - Fiesta R2
Callum BLACK - DS3 R3
Tom CAVE - DS3 R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460Mark DONNNELLY - DS3 R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460James FORD
James GRINT - DS3 R3
Jukka KORHONEN - DS3 R3
Joe McGONIGLE - Clio R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460Daniel McKENNA - Fiesta R2
Steve ROKLAND - Fiesta R2?
Peter TAYLOR - DS3 R3

[catty]

Can also add Desi Henry - DS3 R3 to that list.
And probably Osian Pryce too in his DS3 - he's running around crying about having no sponsors and not being able to afford to rally this year but he's never worked a day in his life and daddys minted so I'm sure we will see him taking part!

[Chissy555]

Tom Cave........ :)

[Bartolbia84]

Hunt??

[catty]

Hunt??
I'd say he'll stick to ERC/WRC but haven't heard anything

[Chissy555]

Cant wait for the Clark ..........

[Bartolbia84]

I'd say he'll stick to ERC/WRC but haven't heard anything

Thank's

WRC-3 ---> Citroen Trophy!!

[catty]

New crews in italics!
List of currently registered drivers (I've added the cars):
Jon ARMSTRONG - Fiesta R2
Callum BLACK - DS3 R3
Tom CAVE - DS3 R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460Mark DONNNELLY - DS3 R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460James FORD
James GRINT - DS3 R3
Jukka KORHONEN - DS3 R3
Joe McGONIGLE - Clio R3http://rallybrc.co.uk/administrator/index.php?option=com_content&task=article.edit&id=460Daniel McKENNA - Fiesta R2
Steve ROKLAND - Fiesta R2?
Peter TAYLOR - DS3 R3
John MacCrone - DS3 R3
Desi Henry - DS3 R3
Chris Ingram - Twingo R2
Timothy Cathcart - Fiesta R2
Brendan Cuminsky - DS3 R3
Osian Pryce - DS3 R3 (even though he has no sponsors and tweeted that he has no money he has sent a mechanic to france to collect an engine from Oreca & I'd be stunned if he's not there)

[Fly]

Mc Crone and Taylor
http://www.facebook.com/CulinaPalletforceRacing

[Tom206wrc]

Strange not to see more Twingos(R1 and R2)in BRC !!!! Are the Ford Fiestas so much better :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

A venezuelian driver in British Rallies Championship ??? :confused:
Nowy rywal Kubicy - Wiadomo?ci - Rajdy - autoklub.pl (http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/nowy-rywal-kubicy,47875)

[catty]

Strange not to see more Twingos(R1 and R2)in BRC !!!! Are the Ford Fiestas so much better :confused:
The twingo has 2 problems:
1. The Fiesta is a fantastic gravel car. The BRC comprises 5 Gravel and 2 Tarmac Rounds
2. The Twingo only has 2 way rear suspension and does not have the range of adjustment required to work on british or Irish tarmac

http://youtu.be/oFEEqSR9QiI

[Tom206wrc]

The 208 R2 is also a fantastic car on gravel, I hope to see it more and more in BRC in the future ;)

[Tom206wrc]

By the way, pre-entrylist Bulldog Rally ;)
Rally North Wales - Entries to Date (http://www.bulldog-rally.co.uk/competitorsmenu/entries-to-date)

[Tom206wrc]

Alastair Fisher on entrylist Bulldog/North Wales rally, certainly in order to prepare his Citroën Top Driver season starting in Portugal ;)
In this case will Keith Cronin go there too :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

It's today friday BRC Media Day...so news :confused:

[tolis]

It is with regret that the organisers of the MSA British Rally Championship have cancelled today’s Media Day due to the overnight and continuing snow.

The forest stage is actually in good condition and access from the motorway to the venue is clear, but the concern is for those leaving later in the day.

Championship Manger Mark Taylor said:

“The lay of the land means that access is all downhill from the main road and whilst people will be able to get in, it will be extremely difficult to get back out. Several of the large vehicles that arrived yesterday are having to be extracted by the landowner and our concern is that people may be stuck overnight. Sadly as we are so close to Rally North Wales we have taken the decision to cancel rather than re-schedule.”

[Tom206wrc]

I hope eventual snow won't make organizers of Bulldog Rally to cancel stages :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

New crews in italics!
...

Osian Pryce - DS3 R3 (even though he has no sponsors and tweeted that he has no money he has sent a mechanic to france to collect an engine from Oreca & I'd be stunned if he's not there)[/I]


You guessed well, he just appeared on entrylist ;)

[catty]

You guessed well, he just appeared on entrylist ;)
Any idea when the seeded one will be out?

I know FWD isnt everyones cup of tea but i'm looking forward to seeing the action start!

[Tom206wrc]

I suppose seeded entrylist on friday or on the start week of te event, maybe monday or tuesday(as on many events accross te world) :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

What car for Jonathan Greer on entrylist North Wales Rally currently with "no car" :confused:

[Mintexmemory]

What car for Jonathan Greer on entrylist North Wales Rally currently with "no car" :confused:

Citroen DS3 R3 last year and haven't seen anything to suggest different.
Also can't see Cronin entering the Bulldog as he is very used to the DS3 on gravel, while Fisher hasn't competed in one yet.

[catty]

What car for Jonathan Greer on entrylist North Wales Rally currently with "no car" :confused:
DS3.
Think Greers have a few and they run the Pirelli car although I hear Ex-cricket player Freddie Flintoff did quite a bit of damage to one of them in Sweet Lamb a few weeks ago

[Sulland]

Steve Røkland will try to win the R2 class in a Fiesta

[MJW]

DS3.
Think Greers have a few and they run the Pirelli car although I hear Ex-cricket player Freddie Flintoff did quite a bit of damage to one of them in Sweet Lamb a few weeks ago Walters Arena not Sweet Lamb :-)

[Allyc85]

I see the top 3 finishers in the BRC will get a free entry for Rally GB. Been saying this should have been the way for years now!

Wales Rally GB : The Road to Wales (http://www.walesrallygb.com/2787.php)

[catty]

Just had a look at your pics Ally - very good!
God I miss the 306 Cosworth!!!
[attachment=1:2mww2uwk]4548108871_926a49a319_s.jpg[/attachment:2mww2uwk]

[Allyc85]

Thank you :)

Yea I miss that V6 scream so much! Going to a BTRDA rally is just not the same without it!

[AndyRAC]

And we wonder why Rallying in the UK struggles - there is one example. The most popular car around, and so they ban it!

Another example; the entries and different events in the (Bulldog) Rally of North Wales - clear as mud. Also, I've seen adverts and previews for the BTCC opener - what about the BRC opener?

[MJW]

entry list
https://www.rallies.info/webentry/2013/northwales/entries.php?type=s

good number of DS3's there.

[Allyc85]

And we wonder why Rallying in the UK struggles - there is one example. The most popular car around, and so they ban it!

Another example; the entries and different events in the (Bulldog) Rally of North Wales - clear as mud. Also, I've seen adverts and previews for the BTCC opener - what about the BRC opener?

To be honest I had totally forgotten about the Bulldog until asked a couple days ago if I was going! Rallying needs to get it into its head that it has to get the word out there its self, spend money advertising to make money and get people in!

As for the banning of the Cosworth well it still makes no sense and makes me just as angry...




good number of DS3's there.

I cant stand the Ds3 such a dull car to look at, and the noise...well I make better ones after a curry!

[catty]

I cant stand the Ds3 such a dull car to look at, and the noise...well I make better ones after a curry!
They sound like a Diesel!
Unfortunately this looks or rather sounds like being the future. Renault are developing a new Clio R3 and its a 1.6 turbo too. Lets hope it sounds better than Citroens effort......

[Mirek]

R3T will always sound dull. With that size of restrictor they run in really low rpm. There's quite nothing to do against that :(

But I don't agree the whole car is dull. The sound yes but the appearance of the car not, speaking about asphalt precisely.

[OldF]

Imo the R3T should have such big restrictor that it would have the same power as the other R3 cars (Renault & Honda). Then the sound would be better.

[Mirek]

That's nonsense because thanks to the torque the engine already is powerful enough. DS3 R3T is the fastest R3 now...

[AndyRAC]

Rally North Wales - Pricing (http://www.bulldog-rally.co.uk/spectator/pricing)

Hmmm.....

[OldF]

It’s not nonsense because I was not speaking which one is faster but the power. 250 – 260 ps is more than 235 ps.

[dimviii]

dont underestimate torque at rally cars.

[OldF]

I’m not underestimating the torque. It’s important especially on low revs but this discussion belongs more to the Rally car tech stuff than BRC.

[Mirek]

It’s not nonsense because I was not speaking which one is faster but the power. 250 – 260 ps is more than 235 ps.

And that's what is wrong with Your statement. Of course the value is higher but that doesn't mean the engine is better. If You enlarge restrictor You would make R3T very much faster than R3C or R3D and that's fundamentally wrong.

Do You know how the power curve look like? What is important for You is the area bellow power curve in rpm range which is practically used (for 1st gear it's almost whole rpm range). Naturally the best shape of power curve (for maximizing the area bellow it) is horizontal line (constant power) and that is what restricted turbo engines are close to and what naturally aspirated units can never reach. That's why it is not possible to compare rally engines only by the peak power.

[OldF]

The only things I’ve said is that with bigger restrictor the R3T would have more power and better sound and that I’m not underestimating the effect of torque. I haven’t take a position whether the R3T would be superior compared to R3 cars with bigger restrictor. So which point in my statement is wrong?

I agree with that if the bigger restrictor makes the R3T superior against R3 isn’t fair. Then just continue to listen the dull sound of a R3T car.

[tommeke_B]

Let's make the restrictor bigger! Just for the sound... Everything (gearbox, driveshaft etc) is made for the power the DS3 R3T is delivering now, but that's not important, the sound is more important! :) DS3 R3T's are very spectacular cars, except for their sound (but Evo's aren't better, aren't they?). The only problem of the car is the price-tag and the running cost I'm afraid... In France we can see that almost nobody is continuing with DS3 R3, everyone moved to the 208 R2 Cup, which is cheaper...

[catty]

Rally North Wales - Pricing (http://www.bulldog-rally.co.uk/spectator/pricing)

Hmmm.....
How the hell can they (try to) charge so much?????
I wont be paying!

[catty]

How the hell can they (try to) charge so much?????
I wont be paying!
Looks like they wont be getting anyones money - its cancelled

[Tom206wrc]

I hope this was an april fool :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

I hope this was an april fool :confused:

Not an april fools... Competitors also received a message telling that the rally is cancelled. Of course there's always a possibility, but I think this kind of april fools is too harsh...

[catty]

Not an april fools... Competitors also received a message telling that the rally is cancelled. Of course there's always a possibility, but I think this kind of april fools is too harsh...
No April fool. Some stages are still impossible to complete in 4x4 jeeps so competitors wouldnt have a chance, especially when the UK does not allow studded tyres. In fact the BRC only permits (for this round) a medium compound Pirelli (K6) which would be useless in snow or ice

[Tom206wrc]

OK :( so next rendezvous in may for Pirelli International Rally ;)

[BDunnell]

I'm sure the event would have gone ahead, even in those conditions, 25-30 years ago (see the 1983 Mintex for an example.)

[Nornbugger]

I'm sure the event would have gone ahead, even in those conditions, 25-30 years ago (see the 1983 Mintex for an example.)

when drivers had more tyre choice, the 86 National Breakdown lost a lot of stages to snow, its not a new thing.

[BDunnell]

when drivers had more tyre choice, the 86 National Breakdown lost a lot of stages to snow, its not a new thing.

Well, it lost a lot of stages, but it wasn't cancelled completely.

[catty]

Well, it lost a lot of stages, but it wasn't cancelled completely.
The highest parts of the stages were not passable in a 4x4 jeep. Thick ice and snow drifts up to 10ft high leaving it virtually impossible for there to be any safety services or marshals.
Someone has a big accident, which is more than possible when there are so many quick young drivers, and emergency services cant get to them because of the ice. What happens then?

[Steve Boyd]

And - don't forget - the BRC runners would have been driving through the stages today making notes without helmets in standard cars, possibly without cages or harnesses. Would you want to be responsible for one of them sliding off one of the big drops in those forests?

[trickydicky]

The decline of rallying to a parody of its former self continues a pace.

[catty]

The decline of rallying to a parody of its former self continues a pace.
Woh,
Great insight there.

Were you planning on competing or marshalling at the event?

Studded tyres are illegal in the UK so marshals and due to the fact that the stages were covered in sheet ice the safety crews would not have had access to the higher parts of the stages. And maybe you haven't been to mid-wales before but most of the stages run on high ground so at least 30% of the route would not have had any safety personnel whatsoever.

[trickydicky]

Woh,
Great insight there.

Were you planning on competing or marshalling at the event?

Studded tyres are illegal in the UK so marshals and due to the fact that the stages were covered in sheet ice the safety crews would not have had access to the higher parts of the stages. And maybe you haven't been to mid-wales before but most of the stages run on high ground so at least 30% of the route would not have had any safety personnel whatsoever.

I used to live in mid Wales, I have driven a large portion of the Dyfnant stage quite a few times, though not in a rally car, and I am aware that most of the stage is over or around 1000ft asl. Most rally stages, forest ones anyway, are high up in this country, coniferous forest plantations tending to be situated in moorland areas, rather than town centres. Most of Kielder is also over 1000ft, Radnor nudges 2000ft.

There are many many instances where rally's have taken place in the British Isles following snow storms. The RAC Rally's of 1971, 1985, 1993 and 1996 being fairly obvious examples. In all of those instances studded tyres were not allowed, in all of those instances the stages went ahead anyway, barring a few in 1971 I think where cars got stuck and the stage blocked, somewhere near Aviemore. The first couple of stages of 1996 were on stages with fairly deep, albeit soft, snow cover. It accounted for a few of the favourites, Kankunnen and Vatanen being 2, Schwarz was the only decent car left running, and Stig Blomqvist ended up third in a hamster powered Skoda. It created an interesting story, now of course there can be no interesting stories, because rallying has become a sanitized joke.

[makinen_fan]

Are you sure they were not using studded tyres on those occasions? I am not sure either but I believe there were allowed to use studded tyres back then. The videos I have seen at least from 1993 show that the cars have good traction in snow ice conditions that with a control tyre would not have been possible.

[trickydicky]

Are you sure they were not using studded tyres on those occasions? I am not sure either but I believe there were allowed to use studded tyres back then. The videos I have seen at least from 1993 show that the cars have good traction in snow ice conditions that with a control tyre would not have been possible.

Yes I am sure, I am not aware of any instances where studded tyres were allowed on the RAC Rally. They shred roads, and as the roads were privately owned i'm guessing that's why they weren't allowed.

On the Swedish Rally in 1973 (I think) studded tyres weren't allowed. A rally 100% on snow and ice. It was a bit of a farce and they had to push some cars off the start lines, but it did happen!

[catty]

I used to live in mid Wales, I have driven a large portion of the Dyfnant stage quite a few times, though not in a rally car, and I am aware that most of the stage is over or around 1000ft asl. Most rally stages, forest ones anyway, are high up in this country, coniferous forest plantations tending to be situated in moorland areas, rather than town centres. Most of Kielder is also over 1000ft, Radnor nudges 2000ft.

There are many many instances where rally's have taken place in the British Isles following snow storms. The RAC Rally's of 1971, 1985, 1993 and 1996 being fairly obvious examples. In all of those instances studded tyres were not allowed, in all of those instances the stages went ahead anyway, barring a few in 1971 I think where cars got stuck and the stage blocked, somewhere near Aviemore. The first couple of stages of 1996 were on stages with fairly deep, albeit soft, snow cover. It accounted for a few of the favourites, Kankunnen and Vatanen being 2, Schwarz was the only decent car left running, and Stig Blomqvist ended up third in a hamster powered Skoda. It created an interesting story, now of course there can be no interesting stories, because rallying has become a sanitized joke.
But the snow wasnt the problem. The sheet ice was.
Can you imagine trying to descend Gartheinog (probably wrong spelling I know) on sheet ice with absolutely no grip and a sheer drop on one side the whole way?
That wouldnt be rallying, it'd be suicide

And while your knowledge of the location of forests is quite impressive, you just decided to skip acknowledging the fact that safety crews and marshals would not have been able to access the higher areas. Then again maybe you think another rallying death would be a good way to start the year?

[trickydicky]

But the snow wasnt the problem. The sheet ice was.
Can you imagine trying to descend Gartheinog (probably wrong spelling I know) on sheet ice with absolutely no grip and a sheer drop on one side the whole way?
That wouldnt be rallying, it'd be suicide

And while your knowledge of the location of forests is quite impressive, you just decided to skip acknowledging the fact that safety crews and marshals would not have been able to access the higher areas. Then again maybe you think another rallying death would be a good way to start the year?

I agree that safety crews having no access to certain areas is an issue, and this event wouldn't have had the resources and man-power that the RAC would have had in the day I suppose.

On a completely different note I have just been watching videos of Romain Dumas in his Porsche 997 GT3 RS in the French Rally Championship over the last couple of years; and I've just read the entry list for the Lyon-Charbonnieres Rally. It strikes me that the difference between the French organizers and ours is that they want as many cars to compete as possible, and for the events to be as watched and popular as possible, without worrying about the various different classes and rule changes of the last 15 years. I can't imagine a GT3 RS would be much of a gravel car, but if there was even half a chance of seeing one on the Manx or Ulster I'd be ordering my ferry tickets now.

[Tom206wrc]

2013 Pirelli driver Mark Donnelly will discover his car in rallying this coming week-end(Granite City Rally) ;)

[tolis]

2013 Pirelli driver Mark Donnelly will discover his car in rallying this coming week-end(Granite City Rally) ;)
He already discovered his new car in Omagh Fivemiletown Spring Rally (http://ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=9024&d=269404&t=Omagh-Fivemiletown-Spring-Rally-2013)!

[Tom206wrc]

By the way...pre-entrylist Pirelli International Rally can be seen on the official website ;)
Pirelli Richard Burns Foundation Rally (http://www.pirelliinternationalrally.co.uk/)

[Tom206wrc]

Edit: repeated twice the message :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Tom Cave finished 9th in Somerset Stages and Osian Pryce 12th at Granite City Rally ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Can't acceed to the page of entrylist for Pirelli International Rally anymore for now :confused:

[catty]

Can't acceed to the page of entrylist for Pirelli International Rally anymore for now :confused:
https://www.rallies.info/webentry/2013/pirelli/entries.php?type=s

[catty]

Can't acceed to the page of entrylist for Pirelli International Rally anymore for now :confused:
https://www.rallies.info/webentry/2013/pirelli/entries.php?type=s

[Tom206wrc]

I see Allister Fisher on entrylist Pirelli Rally...he could be the favourite among the 2WDs ;)

[catty]

I think Cave or Donnelly.
Fisher has never done anything impressive in the BRC, the WRC seems to suit him better for some reason.

Perhaps MacCrone if he can stay on the road?

[Nornbugger]

should be interesting, I'd expect Donnelly to have the edge over Fisher and Cave to be close behind, but it definitely should be a good battle at the front :)

[Mintexmemory]

I think McCrone / Donnelly will be the main battle but don't discount any of Fisher, Cave or Price

[Tom206wrc]

What about Finnish Korhonen's chances :confused:

[Mintexmemory]

What about Finnish Korhonen's chances :confused:

Well I saw him twice last year, Pirelli and Yorkshire. While he was in an R2 he was nowhere near Evans pace in the Fiesta R2 on the Pirelli. He has now had a sight of all the stages for this year's series so may be quicker but I can't say he made me take notice by his pace. Of course in a DS3 he may be quick but the other guys have a year more of experience in the DS3. No Cronin or Nikara means Donnelly is favourite and if Korhonen gets a podium I'll be surprised.

[catty]

But that Fabia was ****.

Jukka beat Breen in a straight fight in Fiesta R2's at the Pirelli Rally 2 years ago.
I'd be surprised if he's not at the front

[Mirek]

As one our Finnish forum member told me the main problem for Korhonen with Fabia was too low sumpguard which meant the car had to be run on very high setup not to always hit ground. I would not be surprised at all if the car works bad on gravel because it was developed by a small team and we have no real gravel stages here...

It's interesting that here on our asphalt the same problems occur with Fiesta S2000. There the cause is too low asphalt settings for our bumpy roads. Making it higher don't help handling either.

[Juha_Koo]

BRC 2013 starts on Saturday - here's my video of Jukka Korhonen testing DS3 R3T run by Autosport Technology!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-sOp-b5HH4

[irish_tiger]

What about Finnish Korhonen's chances :confused:

1.Korhonen
2.Fisher
3.Could be anyone !

[noel157]

1.Korhonen


You mightn't be far wrong there.

Great video J-K.

[noel157]

Results are very slow coming out, at least here:

Overall Positions (http://results.djames.org.uk/results/overall.php?EventID=227&StageID=0&OverallPositions=OverallPositions&m=47&selection=all)

[Tom206wrc]

Only times of drivers from Maccrone are coming on SS1 :s :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

News about Cave, Pryce and Donnelly :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Their times are slowly coming :mark:

Who said Korhonen couldn't go for the win ??? :p :

[noel157]

Really over complicated results site......They should have a word with Vysledky

Korhonen leading by 13 sec from Fisher after SS3. Nobody else seems to near these two according to the published times.

[Tom206wrc]

SS4, 5 and 6 are running in times problems again :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Osian Pryce in SS5 :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

Results coming in very slowly... But after SS4, Korhonen leads by 13,0 secs before Fisher. Third MacCrone, surprisingly good! On SS5 Pryce losing about six minutes...

[Tom206wrc]

Many more drivers in problems on that SS5(Fisher, MacCrone, Henry,...) :s

[Juha_Koo]

Most of the problems today were punctures. MacLeod rolled on SS1 in a fast left-hander.

Rally leader Korhonen's comments after the first day: "The day has gone really well. We had a good feeling already in the morning so it was nice to drive - maybe I could have opted for a harder tyre in the first loop but in the end everything was okay. We calmed down a bit in the afternoon when guys started to have punctures. Tomorrow we still have four technical stages to go so we can't take it too easy - we'll aim for a good performance there."

[Fly]

Korhonen, Fisher and McCrone above the rest.
Cave and Donnely overestimated.
Rokland no match for the other R2's.

[Jack4688`]

Have even Sky Sports given up on broadcasting the BRC now? Didn't notice it in the listings over the weekend and there's definitely no replay in the week. Doesn't surprise me really, I won't bother watching again until 4WD cars are back and it's on a channel I have access to i.e. free-to-air

[noel157]

Have even Sky Sports given up on broadcasting the BRC now? Didn't notice it in the listings over the weekend and there's definitely no replay in the week. Doesn't surprise me really, I won't bother watching again until 4WD cars are back and it's on a channel I have access to i.e. free-to-air

So, with respect, why ask?

[Kielder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c5dUGVFFR9s

[Jack4688`]

So, with respect, why ask?

Good point, I was only confused as to why it didn't seem to be on. Has Sky Sports dropped it or not? If they have - despite a pay channel like Sky Sports being less than ideal for BRC - then I think things are only going to get worse for the BRC in terms of publicity. It has coverage in motorsport news each week but not much else...

[catty]

Its being shown next Monday on Sky Sports 3.

Great result for Korhonen - proves how poorly designed the Fabia really was........

[Fly]

Jim Clark Rally Entries so far.

https://www.rallies.info/webentry/2013/jimclark/entries.php?type=u

[satnav]

Pirelli Rally is on Sky Sports 4 at 02.30am on Friday 17th , that's in just over 3 hours time.

[Tom206wrc]

Jim Clark starts tis evenin ;)

[Juha_Koo]

Jukka Korhonen leading Jim Clark Rally after Day1! :) Fastest times to all but one of today's stages. Very nice speed taking into consideration that this is Jukka's third tarmac rally in his career if I am not mistaken...

Second MacCrone 7,8 secs behind and third Fisher, although he is only 0,6 secs in front of Cave.

Garry Pearson leading the R2s, second by 8,2 secs is Jon Armstrong, who showed nice speed in Pirelli...

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to MacCrone and Taylor ??? :(

[Juha_Koo]

Whoops, I didn't notice that they drove so late yesterday evening, not all stages were driven when I wrote my message. But okay, no big changes except MacCrone, who had bad brake fade and dropped a lot of time.

[Fly]

1 stage to go. 0.1 sec between Korhonen and Cave...
Strange times throughout the day. Rain???

[Juha_Koo]

Korhonen wins Jim Clark Rally by 2,0 secs before Tom Cave! Excellent result! :up:

Onboard from SS2, very nice stage with few different road types :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOQNChGFR10

[Mintexmemory]

Korhonen wins Jim Clark Rally by 2,0 secs before Tom Cave! Excellent result! :up:

Onboard from SS2, very nice stage with few different road types :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOQNChGFR10

Happy to say I was wrong about Korhonen, looking forward to seeing him at Rally Yorkshire.

[Nornbugger]

Very impressed by Korhonen, and Cave too, I have to admit that I totally missed that Korhonen was even doing the BRC this year.

I believe McKenna got the Pirelli award for the event? are his plans still to move up to a DS3 mid season? Hes a hard trier, given seat time and event experience he should be up there.

What has happened Mark Donnelly?

[noel157]

Very impressed by Korhonen, and Cave too, I have to admit that I totally missed that Korhonen was even doing the BRC this year.

I believe McKenna got the Pirelli award for the event? are his plans still to move up to a DS3 mid season? Hes a hard trier, given seat time and event experience he should be up there.

What has happened Mark Donnelly?

Hopefully McKenna can get the budget to move up, good future ahead, one of the better current prospects to come out of Ireland along with young Jon Armstrong.

[noel157]

Entertaining video of the Jim Clark rally:


http://youtu.be/qTBYiUpBi4A

[Juha_Koo]

Another onboard from the winners. This time SS8 with a bit of wrong tyres, so very slippery with few moments... :eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHMaLZ6YR_c

[Iain]

Another onboard from the winners. This time SS8 with a bit of wrong tyres, so very slippery with few moments... :eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHMaLZ6YR_c

That happens quite a lot on the Jim Clark. It can be dry in service, but wet or damp on the lanes 20/30 miles along the road! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Today starts Scottish Rally :cool:

[Martin Liddle]

Today starts Scottish Rally :cool:

Results are at RSAC Scottish Results - Main Index (http://results.djames.org.uk/results/index.php?m=53)

[noel157]

Close at the front after 2 stages with Fisher and Cave (0.8), Korhonen 3rd, 15 secs back.

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty for Osian Pryce :(

[Tom206wrc]

Are SS8 and 9 cancelled :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

Are SS8 and 9 cancelled :confused:

No, problem with result service...

[noel157]

Results coming through now for SS9.

[Tom206wrc]

Jukka on SS9 :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Mistake: Jukka was fastest and takes 2nd place :D

[Juha_Koo]

Fisher wins in Scotland! Korhonen second +14,5 and Cave third +25,2.

[Juha_Koo]

Onboard Korhonen/Salminen on SS9.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgwtIOn8tE

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for next week's Ulster Rally :bounce:

[Juha_Koo]

Recce in Ulster... :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998624_10201664443230342_130243558_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Alastair Fisher and Desi Henry on SS3 Ulster Rally :confused:
Great race for Jon Armstrong in his Fiesta R2(2nd overall only +9" from Tom Cave) :eek:

Edit: I found the answer: both Fisher and Henry crashed :(

[Tom206wrc]

Tom Cave on SS7 ??? :confused:

[Allyc85]

Stuck in a ditch, no damage, rally over. Shame as he was flying all day!

[Tom206wrc]

Why no time coming anymore after Jon Armstrong on SS8 this morning :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Something happened to John MacCrone in SS8 !!! :mad:
Now no time after Osyan Pryce on SS9... :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

And now no Jukka Korhonen in SS9 !!! :s
I bet a Ford Fiesta R2 will win the event in the end :rolleyes:


Edit: I didn't notice Jon Armstrong was out too in SS9 :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

And now no Jukka Korhonen in SS9 !!! :s
I bet a Ford Fiesta R2 will win the event in the end :rolleyes:


Edit: I didn't notice Jon Armstrong was out too in SS9 :confused:

Timing completely fcked up... After SS9 Korhonen continuing in second place. Not visible in the results.

[Allyc85]

Something happened to John MacCrone in SS8 !!! :mad:
Now no time after Osyan Pryce on SS9... :mark:

Massive crash, crew ok!

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/371235776245563392/photo/1

[Tom206wrc]

With two stages left to go, Osyan Pryce is going to his first victory in BRC(he would be the youngest driver to win an event there in UK)...Jukka Korhonen is 2nd but would improve his gap in championship provide he keeps that position, and Pirelli Star Driver Mark Donnelly is 3rd... ;)
After Jon Armstrong crashed(apparently he rolled), new R2 leader is Daniel McKenna(4th overall)far in front of Norway's Steve Rökland...

[pantealex]

With two stages left to go, Osyan Pryce is going to his first victory in BRC(he would be the youngest driver to win an event there in UK)...Jukka Korhonen is 2nd but would improve his gap in championship provide he keeps that position, and Pirelli Star Driver Mark Donnelly is 3rd... ;)
After Jon Armstrong crashed(apparently he rolled), new R2 leader is Daniel McKenna(4th overall)far in front of Norway's Steve Rökland...

Latvala is youngest winner, only 19y at that time

[Juha_Koo]

Ulster Rally onboard SS3 Korhonen/Salminen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtogcKnbNXs

[Allyc85]

Big, big hits!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfvQbbA6MX8

[noel157]

Great video from Eamon Finn (FlyingFinn Videos) of the Ulster featuring BRC, International and National crews (and a lot of offs):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SuK5Dw2uTg

[Tom206wrc]

Rally Yorkshire next week ;)
I remember in 2012: victory for both Tom Cave and Osian Pryce ending in the same second !!! :p:

[Langdale Forest]

I have heard that this could be the last ever trackrod rally. :(

[Martin Liddle]

I have heard that this could be the last ever trackrod rally. :(
The Trackrod event will not be a round of the British Rally Championship next year but will run as a round of the BTRDA Rally Series according to the recently published provisional dates.

[Tom206wrc]

Jukka Korhonen best time so far on SS1 Yorkshire rally ;)

[Tom206wrc]

In SS2 Yorkshire Osian Pryce was fastest and take a short lead over Korhonen ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Where are Donnelly and Cave in SS4 ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Only a problem with times/GPS ;)
After SS4 Yorkshire Korhonen retakes the lead over Pryce, but Fisher comes back quickly(+2"2) :)

[Tom206wrc]

This is fantastic battle in Yorkshire !!!! Only 0"7 gap between Pryce and Korhonen after SS6(with one stage left to go) !!! :)


Edit: no time SS6 for Tom Cave and Jonny Greer :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Osian Pryce winner of 2013 Rally Yorkshire ;)
Jukka Korhonen 2nd, Alastair Fisher 3rd...

[donlorean]

If I understand it right battle is now between Korhonen and Pryce. 4 top points calculated in championship if I read regulations correctly. Now Korhonen has 76(2x win and 2x 2nd) in his top four and if Pryce wins the last one also, he is in 76(3x win´s and 1 third). In that case Who is the champ?

[Tom206wrc]

Well, the champ will be decided in Sunseeker by the end of next month ;)

[Juha_Koo]

Korhonen stalled the engine on the start of the final stage and basically lost the game there... They were also given a time which was +6 seconds wrong, but because it had no effect to anything, they didn't take it forward to stewards.

Here's Korhonen/Salminen onboard from SS5 Langdale (fastest time) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9371hyxGo Interesting stage, narrow and at times very high speeds.

[Mintexmemory]

If I understand it right battle is now between Korhonen and Pryce. 4 top points calculated in championship if I read regulations correctly. Now Korhonen has 76(2x win and 2x 2nd) in his top four and if Pryce wins the last one also, he is in 76(3x win´s and 1 third). In that case Who is the champ?

In that case Pryce would be champion because of the higher number of wins.

[pantealex]

last race has 1,5 x points

Korhonen team facebook says that 3rd place is needed for championship win!

[Martin Liddle]

If I understand it right battle is now between Korhonen and Pryce. 4 top points calculated in championship if I read regulations correctly. Now Korhonen has 76(2x win and 2x 2nd) in his top four and if Pryce wins the last one also, he is in 76(3x win´s and 1 third). In that case Who is the champ?
According to this bulletin http://www.rallybrc.co.uk/docs/bulletins/2013_BRC_Information_Sheet_No2.pdf it is five events from six that count.

[Mintexmemory]

If I understand it right battle is now between Korhonen and Pryce. 4 top points calculated in championship if I read regulations correctly. Now Korhonen has 76(2x win and 2x 2nd) in his top four and if Pryce wins the last one also, he is in 76(3x win´s and 1 third). In that case Who is the champ?
According to this bulletin http://www.rallybrc.co.uk/docs/bulletins/2013_BRC_Information_Sheet_No2.pdf it is five events from six that count.

That being the case the championship can't end in a tie - couldn't make the Yorkshire so might try to get to the SS

[NxOxT]

Since i am quite close to where the sunseeker is held, is the rally worth visiting ? The entry looks fine are there any special spots/stages you can recommend ? I am not 100% sure yet since i have to be in staffordshire on Thursday and Friday but i think i can make it on Saturday... any information is welcome.

[Tom206wrc]

This coming week-end: Sunseeker Rally last round of BRC :bounce:

[Juha_Koo]

Jukka Korhonen & Marko Salminen are British Rally Champions 2013! :) Salminen is also a double champion as he wins both British and Finnish titles in the same year...

Sunseeker results:
1. Pryce
2. Cave +14,4
3. Korhonen +38,9

[Sulland]

Congratulations to Steve Røkland for taking 2nd in the R2 championship in 2013!!
Also on getting a shot at the shootout with Pirelli;

'This year’s Pirelli Star Driver nominations include Jon Armstrong, Ruary MacLeod, Steve Rokland, Daniel McKenna and Alex Parpottas. The sixth finalist will be announced following next weekend’s Rallye Sunseeker International.'

May the best man win!

[Tom206wrc]

Congrats to Jukka :cool:

[tolis]

Congratulations to Steve Røkland for taking 2nd in the R2 championship in 2013!!
Also on getting a shot at the shootout with Pirelli;

'This year’s Pirelli Star Driver nominations include Jon Armstrong, Ruary MacLeod, Steve Rokland, Daniel McKenna and Alex Parpottas. The sixth finalist will be announced following next weekend’s Rallye Sunseeker International.'

May the best man win!
Daniel McKenna won it!

[Tom206wrc]

Congrats to Daniel McKenna, goodluck for the 2014 BRC :cool:

[catty]

Congrats to Daniel McKenna, goodluck for the 2014 BRC :cool:
2014 British Rally Champion.

[karim007]

Competitors also received a message telling that the rally is cancelled. Of course there's always a possibility, but I think this kind of april fools is too harsh.