Belgian Rally News

[gianni123]

Video East Belgian Rally 2014 (HD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmhz7Is1TU

[tommeke_B]

Finish

1. Neuville (i20 WRC) 1:17:35,6
2. Cherain (Fiesta R5) +3:24,7
3. Kobus (Fiesta S2000) +4:59,8
4. Van Woensel (Impreza WRC S5) +5:04,3
5. Verschueren (DS3 R5) +6:03,6
6. Hermann (Punto HGT "Kit Car") +7:48,0 (!)
7. Garcia (Clio R3T) +8:21,0
8. Snijers (BMW 130i) +8:38,5
9. De Ridder (Evo IX gr.N) +8:59,5
10. Burton (DS3 R3T) +9:10,7

Does anyone know what happened to Princen?

Princen retired with broken wheel.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7RGi_sthk Tsjoen retired with broken steering after this mistake.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2ebr2014_zpsc011529f.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIE6fUXyjrM)

[rallymen123]

Photos East Belgian Rally 2014 online on www.bvrallypics.be

http://bvrallypics.be/?p=803&wppa-album=188&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1


http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123034/sized_IMG_8696_zps39c6e058.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123034/sized_IMG_8696_zps39c6e058.jpg.html)
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[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2ebr2014histo_zps0f688f81.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V2g18gC3I4)

[MartijnS]

I also went to take a look in Belgium, nice rally!

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2014/eastbelgianrally/Cherain%201.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2014/eastbelgianrally/Lejeune%201.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2014/eastbelgianrally/Swaanen%203.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2014/eastbelgianrally/Neuville%202.jpg

More at our Facebook Page (http://facebook.com/rallymedia) or our Website (http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2014/eastbelgianrally/eastbelgianrally.html) !

[Andre Oliveira]

Photos here (http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=17251&t=East-Belgian-Rally-2014)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/east_belgian_rally_2014/msc_nq3p4657.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/east_belgian_rally_2014/msc_nq3p4622.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/east_belgian_rally_2014/msc_nq3p4582.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Ups :) same time Martijn ;)

[stefanvv]

I also went to take a look in Belgium, nice rally!

Congratulations for the photo with grey/green Porsche.

[MartijnS]

Haha, at least you posted other ones and a different website offcourse! ;)


Congratulations for this photo:


Thanks, but the link is not working ;)

[stefanvv]

Thanks, but the link is not working ;)

Yeah, I editted it as coudn't find the picture link.

EDIT: But on facebook I can:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10686734_712183675536271_5096219194978527546_n.jpg ?oh=f4133ee16e1dbdb1d81dabcf9c02fe02&oe=54BFC125&__gda__=1422184697_cbd74950b1c25f0fdcb7a3a79fed566 6

[dimviii]

Yves Matton @Yves_Matton · 19 λεπ.
Before flying to China for #WTCC, I'm glad to announce that @krismeeke will enter @CondrozRally with a #DS3 R5! #WRC

[MartijnS]

Heard a lot of rumours about a massive pack of Citroen WRC's driving there.

3x DS3 WRC
2x C4 WRC
2x Xsara WRC..

But like every year, we have to wait what's really driving there ;)

[tommeke_B]

Yves Matton @Yves_Matton · 19 λεπ.
Before flying to China for #WTCC, I'm glad to announce that @krismeeke will enter @CondrozRally with a #DS3 R5! #WRC

It could be interesting to see how he does against Loix-Fabia S2000 and Cherain-Fiesta R5. :) For Cherain it is his home-event, I think it's the 10th time he participates. In Ypres he was really fast but it was only his 3rd Ypres Rally.
The car Meeke is driving is from MY Racing by the way, it should be the car Chardonnet has been driving this season.

[tommeke_B]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10675671_10152699445645733_4983574703197563902_n.j pg?oh=86af8bfdbbedf8bfc89604ce184514dc&oe=54C53441&__gda__=1422933268_58ce61941c8d1974d46fce5ee3d9219 2

Petter Solberg is going to drive the Rallye du Condroz, with this C4 WRC! Another world star after the confirmation of Meeke (DS3 R5). Strong rumors concerning a participation of François Duval in a Citroën WRC car as well... To be continued. :)

[pettersolberg29]

Is anyone able to help me with a few questions about visiting Rallye du Condroz from the UK? Is it an easy rally to spectate at? Do you need a car or can you rely on taxis/public transport etc? Any advice appreciated.

[tommeke_B]

Is anyone able to help me with a few questions about visiting Rallye du Condroz from the UK? Is it an easy rally to spectate at? Do you need a car or can you rely on taxis/public transport etc? Any advice appreciated.

It's an easy rally to spectate, and due to the weather conditions and the season of the year, probably the most spectacular event in Belgium. Youtube is full of videos for proof. :) You definitely need a car, public transport is very poor outside big cities in Belgium, and a taxi is for sure more costly than renting a car. Centre of the rally and service park are in the city center of Huy. It's very likely that all hotels nearby will be completely booked already, they already are fully booked several months before the event. The rally consists out of 22 stages (245km SS) on 2 days. It is very easy to see 4 stages on both saturday and sunday (so 8 stages in total), I think we will be going for 10 stages (6 on saturday, 4 on sunday). The distance between stages is quite small, but I can't stress enough that you must take your time, as there is a lot of traffic, and all people are moving between stages. I don't know any rally with bigger traffic jams than Condroz. Nowadays it's one of the most crowded rallies in the world I think, maybe not in numbers, but it feels like that when you're on the stages. Luckily most of the stages exist out of open fields, so there's no worrying about not finding a place with a good view. When the rally's getting closer (let's say 10 days to 1 week before the event) you can always mail me (you can find my adress on my website) for some spectating points and maps. ;)

[pettersolberg29]

You're a star tommeke, thank you! :) I assume it's possible to sleep in the car overnight near the stages? If so I can just drive over and not worry about accommodation!

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sfhemimod2_zps2282d987.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzOeXla0-nE)

[manthey]

K.Abbring on Ford Escort

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqcwwL9I9Yo

[gianni123]

Video Hemicuda Rally online


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xH67weljho

[rallymen123]

Photos Hemicuda Rally 2014 online on www.bvrallypics.be

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9212_zps4be6e21f.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9212_zps4be6e21f.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9463_zps9d1e5023.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9463_zps9d1e5023.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9589_zps3aee8b71.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9589_zps3aee8b71.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9537_zpscafc3a1e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123035/sized_IMG_9537_zpscafc3a1e.jpg.html)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sfhemihisto2_zps8f5df6fd.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Y_RHA47fw)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sfhemionboard2_zpsbf267932.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fPpwAxzD20)

[tommeke_B]

More entries coming for Rallye du Condroz. Small list with drivers in top categories (WRC/R5/S2000).

Petter Solberg (Citroën C4 WRC)
Yves Matton (Citroën Xsara WRC)
David Bonjean (Citroën Xsara WRC)
Bertrand Grooten (Citroën DS3 WRC)
Eric Cunin (Skoda Fabia WRC)
Alexandre Busin (Skoda Fabia WRC)
Kris Princen (Subaru Impreza S12 WRC)
Chris Van Woensel (Subaru Impreza S5 WRC)
Bob De Jong (Mitsubishi Lancer WRC)
Kris Meeke (Citroën DS3 R5)
Cédric Cherain (Ford Fiesta R5)
Pieter Tsjoen (Peugeot 208T16 R5)
Vincent Verschueren (Citroën DS3 R5)
Freddy Loix (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Neil Simpson (Skoda Fabia S2000)
François Kicq (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Hermen Kobus (Ford Fiesta S2000)
Davy Vanneste (Peugeot 207 S2000)

[tommeke_B]

More good news from Belgium. Davy Vanneste's sponsor sold his Peugeot 207 S2000 and bought a Ford Fiesta R5 (ex Cracco), he will drive it for the first time in Rallye du Condroz.

Also starting in Condroz with a Ford Fiesta R5 is Xavier Baugnet. In my opinion he's one of the most forgotten and underestimated drivers in Belgium at the moment. For those who don't know him, he's from the same generation as Neuville and Boon and has always been driving FWD cars (Fiesta ST and later on R2 cars), last year he did an amazing job in Ypres by winning the R2 category. I don't think he ever drove in the perfect circumstances (especially regarding budget), let's hope for a change for him... :)

In Condroz we will see 3 Renault Clio R3T's as well, they will be driven by Cedric de Cecco, Ghislain De Mevius and Manuel Canal-Robles. They are probably participating with an eye on next season, as there will be a Renault Clio Trophy in Belgium.

@pettersolberg29, maps are becoming available on this page: http://www.condrozrally.be/m30-FR-Cartes_des_speciales_2014.html Some are already online, others should follow soon.

[mousti]

De Cecco seems to aim for the European Trophy next year, winner gets a free entry in MC, winning in MC means u can do a full WRC-3 season. If I'm right..

No Bob de Jong, seems both Lancer WRC will be sold soon.. Bouche still not sure what he will drive, normally he will start probably with a Focus WRC '10 or C4 WRC. We will see, tomorrow the seeded list will come public. If it goes online that's another thing... :p

[tommeke_B]

No Bob de Jong indeed... Let's hope we see him with an R5 next year! ;) Xavier Bouche has been confirmed with a Ford Focus WRC '08. Last year he finished 2nd with a C4 WRC.

[tommeke_B]

http://motorclub-huy.be/condroz/documents/docs/ENTRY_LIST_2014.pdf - seeded entrylist for Rallye du Condroz.

[tommeke_B]

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0438/ - My incredibly late album of the East Belgian Rally

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0438/images/006.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0438/images/027.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0438/images/046.jpg

[noel157]

Busy workshop before the weekend:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1HCCZwIQAAUWOH.jpg

[nafpaktos]

Petter's car!

http://s27.postimg.org/969g4i0df/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
photo uploading websites (http://postimage.org/)

[tommeke_B]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1797528_790632064331562_800218544943445365_n.jpg?o h=6aa6d67bf2bebc130124af9b2b87b27c&oe=54EAFE2E&__gda__=1425410863_1dc3a48b3c93db7b9ef8f5606a762eb c - Solberg's livery.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFRDtG77-rA&feature=youtu.be first testing-video of the Citroëns. Meeke by far most impressive!

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1962807_10202797443312886_6986857449931597558_n.jp g?oh=3bd9988bfdf497ffb944eeac34df8242&oe=54E11A84 - Focus WRC of Xavier Bouche.

[dimviii]

from recce
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1IlI4fIEAIoElV.jpg:large

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48zMfH95t2Y

Nice video, Meeke very spectacular as always! I know the testing-stage quite well, been there during the rally a few years ago, and I was there when Loix used it as test-base in the beginning of the year. You need guts to take the corner at 1min39 flat out, also big moment at 3min30! When you drive it with a normal car you really realize how great the suspension of these modern rallycars is. About Solberg, not much footage from him, and what we've seen is a bit disappointing...

Also an interesting video for the sound. Does anyone agree on how boring the C4 WRC (not even talk about the Focus WRC) sounds compared to the DS3 R5?

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc63go4-iH0&feature=youtu.be Another video from the same test, again some on-the-limit action from Meeke.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Forgive my ignorance but why is the Condroz Rally such a popular event with all these big names entering ?

[EightGear]

The main reason is because organisers pay the big names to enter. Remember last year Loeb was there. Also I believe Matton is a member of the organisation (not sure). But of course it's still quite a big rally, after Ypres the most important event in Belgium.

[stefanvv]

From spectator point of view it is spectacular Rally, always with lot of mud:)

[tommeke_B]

@Eightgear, you're wrong with the organizers "pay the big names". For example some sponsor on the Citroën's is a big competitor of sponsor of the organisation. Yves Matton is NOT a member of the organisation, but he lives in the region. For sure Yves Matton is helping and is sealing the deals with sponsors and Citroën Belgium. Peugeot is "car-sponsor" of the event by the way.

Some background information about Rallye du Condroz:


After Ypres this is by far the biggest event in Belgium, and in number of spectators I'm sure that it's much bigger than Ypres. This weekend the weather will be relatively good for the time of the year. Last time it was similar (2011, year of the fatal accident) there were an estimated 120 thousand spectators. For many sponsors (such as Skoda, Citroën, Peugeot) this is THE event of the year, and commercially at least as important as Ypres. Also the Rallye du Condroz is covered on TV at least as much as Ypres. Last year 2 stages went live on tv, which is unique for a national rally.

Rallye du Condroz has been a big event for a long time, in the early 2000s there have been editions where Condroz had a entry list that wasn't any less than Ypres. The event has had coëff 10 (20 was the biggest, for those who remembered, then you had 10, 5 and 2 if I'm not mistaken) in the European championship. I'm convinced that without the competition of Ypres (being in the same country) Condroz would have been a big international event. Since 2006 the event counts for Belgian championship only, but never lost it's popularity. But still, being out of any international championship, they still keep the same "international" itinerary like an ERC event has. They have a shakedown the day before the event, and 2 full days of rallying. This year the event covers 22 stages (11 different each driven twice), enough for 243km of special stages. The length in km SS has always varied between 235 and 285km SS, which makes it longer than the average ERC event.

The only thing I don't like about the event is how poorly it is organized. Some stages are delayed sometimes in Condroz (in Wallonia in general in fact), also the safety measures for spectators are very poor (last years it improved a little, but not enough).

[EightGear]

Ok my bad, thanks for the explanation.

[mousti]

Ok my bad, thanks for the explanation.

Matton is indeed not part of organisation but is member of the club who organises it. But it's like Tom said many sponsors bring those big names to Huy, in the 90's we had Delecour, Aghini and many other big stars to Condroz Rallye.

[noel157]

Tom, Mousti, has Matton any connection to MyRacing?

[Mirek]

I think that the letters MY mean Matton Yves :)

[mousti]

I think that the letters MY mean Matton Yves :)
Yes he is founder and boss of MYracing and formerly known as ProRace.

[makinen_fan]

Yes he is founder and boss of MYracing and formerly known as ProRace.

Out of interest which drivers (at least outside Belgium) are racing with MYracing? I find it bizarre is that Yazeed is part of MYracing, everyone else is using Citroen right?

[nafpaktos]

Very poor performance during the tests from petter.some people support that he should be be on the wrc.i think the videos from the test is the answer.he really disappointed me!

[mohit]

Very poor performance during the tests from petter.some people support that he should be be on the wrc.i think the videos from the test is the answer.he really disappointed me!

give him some seat time he is driving in a proper rally after 2 years and he tested the car for only two hours or so.

[mousti]

Out of interest which drivers (at least outside Belgium) are racing with MYracing? I find it bizarre is that Yazeed is part of MYracing, everyone else is using Citroen right?
Yes, but Yazeed is quite sure a person who pays very well. Chardonnet did WRC-3 and now WRC-2 with MYracing. Next year that should be Lefebvre then I guess, but what Chardo will do next year then..?

[mohit]

People doubting petter can check his in car video by logging on to his website
www.pettersolberg.com

[manthey]

talking about r5/wrc renters:

ds3 r5 from myracing

xsara Matton + marcVds from D-Max

ds3 wrc again D-Max (same car used by Kostka and Felice Re in italy)

c4 wrc Solberg with marc Vds stickers (doing now also rally besides endurance GT3 and Moto 2 ?) from D-Max (not sure because on the front grill white lettering only "Citroen") but looking this picture seems from D-Max too


http://s12.postimg.org/4r54p7s19/Test_Meeke_Solberg_Matton_Grooten_Rallye_du_Co.png (http://postimage.org/)

[MartijnS]

Some shots of Meeke, I think at the shakedown.
Finally a decent driver behind the wheel of the DS3 R5!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02p0ein3FkI&sns=em

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thanks for all the info guys !

I used to watch the BRC on MotorsTV but I dont think its been shown for a while...

Is the stream on the Condroz Rally website going to show live stages ?

[Vaggelis27]

Shakedown results???

[Maurice_M_27]

Keith Cronin in first rally in DS3 R5 went well on the Cork 20 rally here in Ireland a few weeks back also, beaten only by Fiesta WRC. Meeke is absolutely flying in every video, really spectacular but fast. One thing that worries me is location of some spectators in the videos, and it will only get worse when rally starts proper. Condroz always seems to have spectator problems, really hope everything will be ok and people will be sensible and safe

[mousti]

All Citroën WRC cars are from Dmax. So Petter doesnt use his own C4.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

[noel157]

As mentioned before, spectator safety not good in many places, just one of many examples:

http://i.imgur.com/sGfCsWw.jpg

SD Videos. Great to see the weather a lot better than the PETs but still lots of sideways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7mV5Jv1Bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPuGc5At0Q

[vino_93]

Yes, but Yazeed is quite sure a person who pays very well. Chardonnet did WRC-3 and now WRC-2 with MYracing. Next year that should be Lefebvre then I guess, but what Chardo will do next year then..?
Not sure that Lefebvre will run with My Racing. Last year the rule was that the winner driver + the winner team jump to WRC2.
But I don't know if this year there was a team classficiation ?

[MJW]

Is there a link to live timing?

[Jeppe]

Is there a link to live timing?

41eme Rallye du Condroz-Huy http://lcchrono.com/apps/direct.php?ce=2014021&de=0

[Rallyper]

Well, Petter back to WRC - or is it the car? Two stagewins already...

[Wim_Impreza]

From spectator point of view it is spectacular Rally, always with lot of mud:)

Unfortunately not this year. It is so dry and warm that there isn't any mud. :( It's just the same like in 2011 when the whole rally and the tests before the event were very dry, but now it is even warmer than in that Condroz. Still the entry list in this rally is very good as always. :)

[HaCo]

What is happening to Loix?


Verscheuren loosing many time: leaking ail and rear drivetrain to sh*t.


AWESOME battle between Cherain and Meek :D

[rage82]

Well, Petter back to WRC - or is it the car? Two stagewins already...
Peter is driving fast probably, but C4 WRC is faster than the Ds3 R5 for sure.

[Rallyper]

Peter is driving fast probably, but C4 WRC is faster than the Ds3 R5 for sure.

Shouldn´t be overrated, that´s true of course. Still he´s doing a good job having in mind his long absence.

[EightGear]

Of course Solberg is much faster, he should be.

[Rallyper]

But he already disappointed some guys - obviously without reason.

[Mirek]

Problems for Loix? 33 seconds on 9,5 km is not normal at all.

[HaCo]

He is there to have fun, let him. I hope for him he can have a battle with Princen, which would make it even more fun!

[HaCo]

Problems for Loix? 33 seconds on 9,5 km is not normal at all.

On another forum they say he had a puncture. Apart from that he lost time also on the second stage. Great to see a young guy like Cherain, from national rallying, following the big guys. :D

[HaCo]

Matton:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1WRgHCCMAIcu0_.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any live TV / stream on today?

[Bartek]

What happened on SS4? Petter and Kris lost a lot of time

[rage82]

Any live TV / stream on today?
Can't see nothing on the official stream for the moment. Only some live feed from twitter and no schedule for live ss.

[HaCo]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10174918_10152829723634507_5863468485293784013_n.j pg
Loix

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can't see nothing on the official stream for the moment. Only some live feed from twitter and no schedule for live ss.

Thanks.

Also can I have a link to the stage times, the one on the last page just shows the itinerary ?

[HaCo]

I think Meeke and Solberg times are an error on SS4. Substract 1min and the times are more logic.

Tsjoen very fast in this stage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gearbox problem for Petter :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1XCr1jIgAIZRIN.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1XCtHsIQAEjO8M.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Problems again for Meeke ??

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1XEtUUIQAAB5_W.jpg

[Mirek]

The results of SS7 are total mess (now Bux third overall in R2). Is that real?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Info - Petter Solberg lost 1min due puncture SS4 ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Video SS 1-3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMpTvQTCWrc

[Mirek]

From the video we can see clutch problems for Verschueren.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yves Matton out of Rally Condroz :(

[pettersolberg29]

Petter has just retweeted comments saying his times are wrong - God knows what the standings are!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Simpson Skoda SS1 on-board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSW1_sUqUAo

[JTGANG]

Nice to see huge crowd everywhere !!!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke is not happy with the Condroz Rally fans. He just advised to cancel a stage because of spectators..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Grooten crash

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1XVH50IgAEgTkZ.jpg:large

[MartijnS]

Meeke is not happy with the Condroz Rally fans. He just advised to cancel a stage because of spectators..

Always crazy over there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke onboard: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152530406982057

[pettersolberg29]

Updated standings now - Petter leads by 17s.

edit: 1 minute penalty for Petter due to gearbox issues

[Tom206wrc]

Nice that Petter is back in the lead after wrong time SS4 :cool:

[fegh]

Unfortunately apparently Petter got a 1 minute penalty for leaving service late after ss10. Gearbox problems.

[MJW]

Unfortunately Petter got a 1 minute penalty for leaving service late. Gearbox problems.
And I understand is now retired due to gearbox.

[Rallyper]

Well, he showed the speed is there, even in rallying.

[mohit]

Well, he showed the speed is there, even in rallying.

he should be in wrc in 2015

[Rallyper]

he should be in wrc in 2015

Hope they both became more hungry for it.

[Tom206wrc]

No Petter Solberg anymore in SS11 ???? :(

Edit: OK...terminal gearbox problem :confused:

[noel157]

Hard to know what's going on.
SS 11 - Meeke may have won the stage and maybe 4th or 3rd in GC.

[br21]

scary moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2iYQnYWHpM

[mousti]

Probably Matton and Solberg will restart, they were working hard on both cars.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

[rage82]

scary moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2iYQnYWHpM
Another reminder to be prepared for everything when you are watching rally no matter where you are staying.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSYYZMeNdH8&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke
'This @condrozrally is incredible! What a proper rally! Just so many people! But SS are fantastic. 2nd o/a tonight..'

1 (1) #9 Kris Princen/Peter Kaspers Subaru Impreza WRC07 1:13:41.3
2 (2) #1 Kris Meeke/Paul Nagle Citroen DS3 R5 13.0
3 (3) #3 Freddy Loix/Johan Gitsels Skoda Fabia S2000 30.8
4 (5) #19 Eric Cunin/Stephanie Balcaen Skoda Fabia WRC 2:12.0
5 (4) #6 Pieter Tsjoen/Eddy Chevaillier Peugeot 208 T16 R5 2:30.6
6 (6) #25 Ludovic Sougnez/Andy Mawet Mitsubishi Lancer E9 R4 2:48.7
7 (8) #11 Xavier Baugnet/Hugues Lecomte Ford Fiesta R5 3:27.5
8 (9) #12 Davy Vanneste/Eddy Snaet Ford Fiesta R5 3:59.5
9 (7) #16 David Bonjean/Christian Dubois Citroen Xsara WRC 4:14.9
10 (10) #45 Jean-Pierre Vandewauwer/Eric Marnette Porsche 997 GT3 4:24.2
11 (13) #24 Matthias Boon/Luc van Winkelen Subaru Impreza 5:08.6
12 (12) #14 Neil Simpson/Elliott Edmondson Skoda Fabia S2000 5:12.0

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1YzfI_IcAE5Kah.jpg

Meeke won 3 stages in a row ! :)

[noel157]

Don't sound so surprised Eddie....: )

[MartijnS]

Crash of Grooten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yXy4jvXEes

[EightGear]

What happened to Cherain?

[Maurice_M_27]

Ridiculous where people are standing after the jump..do they not learn?

[irish_tiger]

Any link to results please ? - that you can follow from stage to stage ...

[dimviii]

Any link to results please ? - that you can follow from stage to stage ...

http://lcchrono.com/apps/direct.php?ce=2014021&de=0

[irish_tiger]

http://lcchrono.com/apps/direct.php?ce=2014021&de=0
Thanks ..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No, didnt mean to sound surprised, just happy !

Looks like he's won some more stages this morning... :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Matton off today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1bY65LCEAAr0O6.jpg

[noel157]

The Belgian Kris wins SS18, the Irish Kris +7.7. Meeke in 2nd, 12.8 secs behind Princen.

[noel157]

Reports of "fans" throwing mud on the stages?

[noel157]

If the comments are accurate. I'm sure it's only a small possibly drunken few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mut-HZHaa3o#t=84

[noel157]

Meeke has gearbox change in service.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke has gearbox change in service.

Full transmission change in 25min !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1buctsIAAATH2i.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Simpson OB - Intercom failure brings about some great innovation from CD Elliott Edmondson.. :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ge_ivg4f5s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Matton... ouch ! :(

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10600638_865974033421806_4437419565540734466_n.jpg ?oh=a73c7f18d24e04c635c97290e002868f&oe=54D9ABF6&__gda__=1424129919_6006bf0747d6d307345b039988e8a0b 4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Reports of "fans" throwing mud on the stages?

Water leak blamed ...

http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/sports/141102_Condroz_rally_hazardous_driving

[noel157]

Water leak blamed ...

http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/sports/141102_Condroz_rally_hazardous_driving

Let's hope so.

Princen just keeping ahead of Meeke after SS 20. Think SS21 has been cancelled due to fallen tree but not sure.

[Mirek]

Reports of "fans" throwing mud on the stages?

I remember that people walking from the fields over the road were enough to make it completely muddy when I was there in 2008.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Although the weather was dry the roads have been very muddy in parts... shakedown in particular.

I dont think even these fans would be so stupid.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Princen wins Condroz ahead Meeke+38.7 & Loix+2.01.1 ..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame there were so many retirements so the big battle wasn't to be.

Good run by Meeke considering it was his first time there and the roads were so tricky...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1ccXX0IEAE79nK.jpg:large


Nice photo set also here: http://gmrallye.jalbum.net/Rallye-du-Condroz-2014/#

[EightGear]

Wasn't Meeke there before in a C2?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wasn't Meeke there before in a C2?

Correct - 8 years ago in C2R2.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Motors TV showing highlights

BELGIAN RALLY RD 8 : CONDROZ Veterans and newcomers battle in one of Europe's most competitive national rally championships.
Friday 07 November - 21:15

Next broadcast:
Saturday 08 November - 3:15,
Saturday 08 November - 5:20,
Sunday 09 November - 3:15,
Sunday 09 November - 10:55,
Monday 10 November - 9:00,
Monday 10 November - 13:30,
Thursday 13 November - 19:55

[noel157]

10 mins of stages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLEr8myn_uc#t=420

[nafpaktos]

Good run by Meeke considering it was his first time there and the roads were so tricky

I wasn't expecting something less from him.He is top wrc driver.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2meekecondroz2014_zpsbac6f6a6.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iREFRhOvk4U)

[HaCo]

I wasn't expecting something less from him.He is top wrc driver.

You are right, but he delivered anyway. We have seen much worser outings from top WRC drivers. Not only Meeke was very good, also the DS3 R5.


What happened with Cherain? He had a brilliant run, until the last stage of Day 1.

[EightGear]

All PSA R5s reached the finish!

[tommeke_B]

@HaCo: Cherain went off on the penultimate stage of the day. He punctured the radiator and continued, but had to stop, no option. Next week Léandri is normally going to drive this car in Corsica, let's hope there's no severe engine damage...

Had a great Condroz Rally by the way, photos and some resume are for tomorrow. ;)

[mousti]

All PSA R5s reached the finish!

Wanted to post the same thing! And Kris Meeke especially him was driving it from start to finish on and over the limit on a quite tough rally! Good for PSA now hopefully the first victory for Abbring at Corse..

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rP94KuHKj4 - onboard with Meeke on SS5

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1G0v9Fvg0I - Crash of Matton

[JieM]

Video Condroz Rally 2014 -> http://youtu.be/CtxNGSjqn1k?list=UUBhTbAT3gZYvgVaFImKuF7Q

[EightGear]

So, how about next year? Are we going to have a battle between Loix, Tsjoen, Casier (IIRC he plans to do the complete BRC next year?), Princen, Kobus (?), Verschueren and Cherain? That would be very good, let's hope Snijers as well. :)

[tommeke_B]

So, how about next year? Are we going to have a battle between Loix, Tsjoen, Casier (IIRC he plans to do the complete BRC next year?), Princen, Kobus (?), Verschueren and Cherain? That would be very good, let's hope Snijers as well. :)
Loix most likely with Fabia R5 (supported by Skoda Belgium), Tsjoen continues with 208 R5 if plans don't change. Cherain will drive a official Citroën DS3 R5 next year. Princen wants to have the S12 sold before they buy any other car (most likely R5). I think Verschueren will continue with DS3 R5. For Snijers it's always a big question, I think he will do some events with Fiesta R5, he's doing a small event with Fiesta R5 in a few weeks. About Kobus nothing is sure, I heard rumors he wants to drive the Dutch championship next year, then he can win against nobody...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10687302_950837021594851_5982188620373128612_o.jpg

[nafpaktos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rP94KuHKj4 - onboard with Meeke on SS5

Nice onboard,Kris drives really smooth and neat.since I heard the rev limiter a few times during the video,do we know top speed?

[Mirek]

There are several options I think. With 208 T16 the longest gearbox is little over 200 km/h but short one somewhere around 170 km/h.

[Andre Oliveira]

Photos here (http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=17253&t=Rallye-du-Condroz-Huy-2014)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2014/tle_sized_img_9013.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2014/tle_sized_img_9254.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2014/tle_sized_img_9152.jpg

[gianni123]

Video online with kris meeke on the limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xadAJaF72e0

[dodge33cymru]

Tsjoen's 208 is for sale, no? Advertised as available after Condroz http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/clas/index.php?ct=fsrck&md=details&id=79221

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2cornercondroz2014_zps4b349b55.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZiEEx-L8Fk)

[tommeke_B]

There are several options I think. With 208 T16 the longest gearbox is little over 200 km/h but short one somewhere around 170 km/h.

Kris was driving a short gearbox (top around 174kph), while Verschueren and Tsjoen were driving a medium one (top speed around 185kph). Data showed that on saturday Kris was driving in 5th gear for around 50% of the stage-time.

Also did anyone notice how detailed his notes are compared to for example a gravel rally in WRC? It's interesting to see they are using "ice" for the places where the grip is bad. :)

[Mirek]

I'm quite surprised that they chose short gearbox for this rally (surprised by the decision not the fact which was quite clear from onboards).

[AndyRAC]

Kris was driving a short gearbox (top around 174kph), while Verschueren and Tsjoen were driving a medium one (top speed around 185kph). Data showed that on saturday Kris was driving in 5th gear for around 50% of the stage-time.

Also did anyone notice how detailed his notes are compared to for example a gravel rally in WRC? It's interesting to see they are using "ice" for the places where the grip is bad. :)


I'm glad you thought that as well. I think they've added more details to his notes, and it seem to be a recent thing. I've never noticed them being that detailed; 'ice' 'mud-slippy' 'don't slide wide', etc
I wonder if it was for this event, or they'll carry on like this in WRC events.

[tommeke_B]

It should be only for this event and probably in Monte-Carlo, it's a typical Belgian thing. Many drivers have very detailed notes like that, many small but important things if you want to drive on the limit.

[Mirek]

Such details are quite often in Czech notes as well. Funny one is for example ZMK in the notes of Černý. That's acronym for "Za mokra klouže" which means "slippery when wet".

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2condroz2014_zps1542cced.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6YdnxiY94)

[rallymen123]

Photos Rallye du Condroz 2014 online on www.bvrallypics.be

http://bvrallypics.be/?p=814&wppa-album=190&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1


http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0711_zps774e10df.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0711_zps774e10df.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0925_zpsb033bec1.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0925_zpsb033bec1.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_1079_zps8f2f9009.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_1079_zps8f2f9009.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0780_zps065e4361.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123036/sized_IMG_0780_zps065e4361.jpg.html)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2condrozhisto2014_zps488180a2.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZT216rOJQ)

[tommeke_B]

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0439/images/077.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0439/images/065.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0439/images/075.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0439/images/078.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0439/images/054.jpg

All photos are online on www.rally-image.be

[dimviii]

really nice photos Tom!

[HaCo]

IMO Loix was not at all at his best in this event, punctures, of the road and generally not that fast as we are used to.
He told in an interview that he was saving the car for next year and there was still a lot of development necessary on the new Fabian chassis.
Looking forward to 2015 BRC, hope everyone finds a proper R5 in time.

[dodge33cymru]

Great photos Tom, thanks for sharing

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I wasn't expecting something less from him.He is top wrc driver.

I agree but he is only in his first full season in the WRC..

And I see WRC.com were impressed at his 'giant-killing' in the R5 car against 2.0 WRC cars:
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/november/meeke-condroz/page/1913--12-12-.html

[tommeke_B]

Thanks Dimvii and dodge33cymru ;)

Had a great event. Also the most crowded rally I ever visited. Again the organisation failed, by having only 2 stages that started on time, the first stages of both days. Also in crowd-management they failed completely, not enough forbidden areas (or not big enough) and not enough marshalls to handle the (often drunk) spectators. And for time-registration they failed as well. Times of SS4 being cancelled, a stage where Solberg lost a minute and Meeke lost 40s, coincidence??

Anyway, seen a great, spectacular and fast rally. Meeke was very impressive (as anyone can see on the countless videos), but I was surprised to see both Loix (until sunday morning) and Cherain (before he went off) having times so close to him. All 3 had a very similar agressive driving style. Solberg was a little disappointing for me, he looked quite calm, and also his driving line looked very safe. He didn't take many cuts that other drivers (like Meeke, Loix, Cherain, Princen etc) took. It looked like he didn't put a lot of effort in recce and preparation. Also you don't expect a national driver (Princen) to keep up with him. Princen knows the terrain, but still a C4 should be quicker than an older Subaru S12...

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnfedL-UoBw - Nice video. Big moment for Loix at 39s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDUzI0B430&feature=youtu.be&list=PLVyRAt2cxbxunUGE4P1LFCOHEoW2EjJMx - 11min25, strange way to get stuck...

[HaCo]

Tommeke, I was thinking the same about SS4, big coincidence, although I think Meeke and Solberg are real sportsmen. Somebody must have taken splits.
Really great to see a young guy like Cherain going that fast. In contrary I get more and more disappointed in Verschueren, hope he can improve.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDvjdzdWDpc&index=1&list=UUOwH18WsGNQ6BQA84-qx5YA - Onboard with Solberg on SS1.

Onboard with Yves Matton on SS2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWeTq0QNBUA

[MJW]

Tommeke, I was thinking the same about SS4, big coincidence, although I think Meeke and Solberg are real sportsmen. Somebody must have taken splits.
Really great to see a young guy like Cherain going that fast. In contrary I get more and more disappointed in Verschueren, hope he can improve.
From what I understand Meeke and Solberg took the correct course, there was an ambiguity in the layout and many drivers took the shorter loop. The only correct action was to cancel the stage results. Organisers error.

[tommeke_B]

From what I understand Meeke and Solberg took the correct course, there was an ambiguity in the layout and many drivers took the shorter loop. The only correct action was to cancel the stage results. Organisers error.

No, incorrect. Also impossible to take a shorter route, it's not a desert rally. ;) The problem was the time-keeping. From what I heard so many spectators passed in front of the photo-sensors of the flying finish that the system went crazy. Normally there is a back-up system where times are taken manually...

[SpeedEstRacing]

my vidéo Rallye du condroz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6mRzQXvYmg

[John Williams]

I'm glad you thought that as well. I think they've added more details to his notes, and it seem to be a recent thing. I've never noticed them being that detailed; 'ice' 'mud-slippy' 'don't slide wide', etc
I wonder if it was for this event, or they'll carry on like this in WRC events.

It sounds to me like a lot of the extra detail has come from a gravel crew.

[wizaron]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15107160363_3467b4a642_z.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7463/15728101762_459a5a0e55_z.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3948/15728097512_b04c1f3207_z.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7579/15735720602_bdaaa08fb8_z.jpg

[manthey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnfedL-UoBw - Nice video. Big moment for Loix at 39s.


perfect video to show differences...

0:18 rebound c4 solberg, maybe setup too stiff. see the same place meeke a 4:26
1:38 meeke flat flat out and then comparison at 5:45 loix
3:10 meeke never lift or brake
3:22 solberg braking and lifting throttle
3:38 loix

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2hoppeland2014_zpsc21bc144.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5tC3HW4-zo)

[manthey]

I looked of the official condroz's webiste but I didn't find a complete entry list paired with teams...someone knows or remembered or pics of the cars racing for Kronos Racing? thanks

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2cornerrallysint-truiden2014_zps06ae69ec.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2lvQLEZLWI)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2rallyvansint-truiden2014_zps48c29568.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qynW5tnzuOM)

[gianni123]

Video Rally van Sint-Truiden with Mistakes

http://youtu.be/1UqTWM4zlh4

[Bartek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDUzI0B430&list=UUdzKYlFhjyw4eYvZ61Rwg6Q > Nice video from Condroz

[HaCo]

Entrylist for rally 6h of Kortrijk this weekend http://www.rallylovers.be/nb/7376/Rally-van-Kortrijk--persvoorstelling
:eek:
I'm in the region this weekend, so will spectate some stages :D

[mousti]

First victory of Vincent Verschueren with the DS3 R5 at '6 uren van Kortrijk'. He won a close battle against Casier in the Fiesta R5!

Happy for Vincent after a tough year, waiting so long for the car to arrive and then quite some problems during rallies with the car.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf26UKortrijk2014_zps3a45eafe.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ydZNZVExo)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf26ukortrijk2014historic_zpsbd8bba57.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxDzPshTwqM)

[tommeke_B]

In 2015 the Belgian championship will have 9 events, of which 8 best results will count for the title. I think all drivers complain about the calendar having too many events. Who has budget for 9 rallies (average length of 190 km SS per event)?

So all events in BRC:

Rally van Haspengouw
Rallye de Spa (new event)
TAC Rally
Rallye de Wallonie
Sezoens Rally
GEKO Ypres Rally (counts for ERC as well)
Omloop van Vlaanderen
East Belgian Rally
Rallye du Condroz

[manthey]

In 2015 the Belgian championship will have 9 events, of which 8 best results will count for the title. I think all drivers complain about the calendar having too many events. Who has budget for 9 rallies (average length of 190 km SS per event)?

So all events in BRC:

Rallye de Spa (new event)


is it on tarmac? also some ps on the f1 circuit?thanks

[mousti]

is it on tarmac? also some ps on the f1 circuit?thanks

On tarmac yeah, maybe some small gravel section like we see in East Belgian Rally. Stage on SpaFrancochamps is possible yeah.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2rallyedemettet2014_zpsedc33c58.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNzaJQ8ysI)

[Cian Donnellan]

Can someone mabye send me some info as Im going to attend the Legend Boucles for the first time next year and don't know what to expect (bar loads of incredible cars and night stages!!) haha

[tommeke_B]

Can someone mabye send me some info as Im going to attend the Legend Boucles for the first time next year and don't know what to expect (bar loads of incredible cars and night stages!!) haha

Spa isn't a real rally in fact. It's a regularity event, the average speed drivers should get is 80kph on every stage. In reality it is impossible on most of the stages (only 2 stages where some drivers got to the average speed this year), so you have to go as fast as you can. It has been a nice event, despite the bad organisation. Having delayed and/or cancelled stages are more a habit than an exception and can be quite frustrating for spectators, especially when there's some big regroup halfway the day and they suddenly manage to start on time again. Still the atmosphere and stages are great, and there are always many great drivers and some legendary names at the start of the event.

The event will be completely different next year, and it could be quite disappointing... I'm not even planning to attend the event at this point. What happened is some dispute between the city of Spa and the organizers. So the organizers took the name and will organize their event in another city, some 80kms away. I think on the long run this move will be a catastrophy for the event. At least 75% of the stages will be different I think, compared to last years. For example the legendary "Clementine" stage will be out, it will be replaced by some other forest-gravel stage, but nobody really knows how good it will be. Also part of the fame of the event goes away, and a big part of the atmosphere. Also I think many "big" national drivers won't bother searching for a historic car to enter this event anymore, many are fed up with the messy organisation and the extremely expensive entry fee. Also there is a new event in the Belgian championship in Spa, another reason for national drivers to save their budget for "proper" rallying.

[gianni123]

Video Rallye de Mettet online


http://youtu.be/eyYEj4YL0Sc

[tommeke_B]

Some first news about the "Spa Rally" is out, after a press-conference yesterday. The event is held on 13th and 14th of march.

Friday will consist of 6 stages, 2 loops of 3 stages. One loop should be run in daylight, the other in the dark. It looks like the famous Clémentine-stage will be run on friday, probably as opening stage. Here's an onboard from the stage, with Snijers without pacenotes! (When this stage was in Legend Boucles de Spa it wasn't allowed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDlYMUZX4bY

On saturday 13 stages will be run, 2 loops of 5 followed by one loop consisting of 3 stages. (3 stages will be run 3 times, 2 stages will be run twice). It makes a total of 19 stages, the total SS length should be around 200km.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpODmM9cS1E&feature=youtu.be - A best-of-2014 video from a friend, with on-the-limit action from the top-crews, some mistakes, and some funny moments/crashes in regional events. Mostly action from Belgium (Belgian championship and smaller rallies), but also some WRC events (Sardinia, Finland, Germany) and some French gravel-action.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2kobus2014_zps1598dc02.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq7KLw0Qhzc)

[rallymen123]

Best of 2014 album online on www.bvrallypics.be

http://bvrallypics.be/?p=826&wppa-album=195&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1

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[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2bestofRally2014_zps71cde418.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaY2wp_yFkU)

[tommeke_B]

http://speedactiontv.be/Getimage.aspx?m=F&d=imgnews&n=BRC15-CHERAIN-01.jpg

Cherain in Citroën colors.

[Tom206wrc]

Good luck to him for the 2015 season ;)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2bestofhistoricrally2014_zpsf97d096f.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SQCCU2QzBk)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2bestactionampcrash2014_zps311727e8.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvpIxlqdDc0)

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2loix2014_zpsad9959bc.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vIFlmwHdOI)

[tommeke_B]

Young Irish driver Stephen Wright is planning to compete with an R5-car in the Belgian championship this year! Last year he became quite competitive with the 208 R2. :)

[tommeke_B]

Regulations for BRC are officially out now. Some changes:

9 events are on the calendar, 8 best results count for the championship. Who enters in all 9 rounds get 9 extra points for the championship (not for the category-championships). (For info: the points for championship consist out of points scored per event 10-8-6-etc general + 10-8-6-etc. in class, so a driver can score up to 20 points per event. If you're 5th and you win your class you still get 14 points).

First 15 on the start-list should be be RC2 or RGT cars registered for the championship. From 15 to 20 it will be the 5 first drivers in BRC junior standings, after the last junior there will be a 2 minute gap. So first WRC should have number 21...

Also Rally2 goes from 5 to 7 minutes (10 minutes for last stage of the day), which makes it nearly impossible to get in top 10 after retiring on first leg.

[tommeke_B]

Bertrand Grooten confirmed first 4 rallies of BRC with Citroën DS3 R5 from D-Max. So it's the 3rd DS3 R5 who will participate in the Belgian championship. He used to be a talented driver but last years he did only one-shots.

[Tom206wrc]

Return of Polle Geussens in BRC and at the 208 Cup ;)

[tommeke_B]

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=43169
Kris Princen doing BRC with support of Peugeot Belux! :)

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10940476_842001775861257_8155112479767795372_n.jpg ?oh=5096f25917380b6a76211b1ffbc761d0&oe=55617979

Livery for Princen. Reminds me to the Peugeot Italy colors. :)

[Tom206wrc]

I just discovered the news about Kris Princen !!!! I'm too happy, at least as happy as when I learnt Paolo Andreucci was the new Peugeot Italia factory driver in 2009 :D

:bounce:
To me the best candidate in the belgian championship vs Fast Freddy :cool:

[vino_93]

Great news for Belgian champ (and by the way, for Ypres too :p) ! I think I'll come back to TAC this year :)

[tommeke_B]

Patrick Snijers will do full BRC with a new Porsche 997 GT3, including Ypres. Could be interesting to see a battle between Delecour and Snijers there... :)

[HaCo]

Tommeke, do you think this will be an RGT spec Porsche?

[tommeke_B]

Tommeke, do you think this will be an RGT spec Porsche?
The car is formerly owned by Patrick Gengler (driver from Luxembourg), I'm not sure if he was the first owner. For BRC the car should have Reiger suspension and sequential gearbox, so no RGT-spec. For Ypres they will change what's needed so they can start. :)

[tommeke_B]

More good news for brc. Chris van Woensel bought the ex-De Jong Lancer wrc. He will compete with it in Haspengouw, Spa, East Belgian and Condroz. That also leaves the opportunity for de jong to buy an R5 car.. Also not mentioned yet, Benoit Allart will do all brc rounds in a fabia wrc (ypres with evo x r4).

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10904620_10153053039409507_8231893078026638030_o.j pg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10923753_10153053039384507_4697115691461428805_o.j pg

[tommeke_B]

Michael Albert, a Belgian 23-year old (former) circuit driver (Blancpain series apparently) will do the complete BRC with an Evo 9 group N, first group N driver who committed to the whole championship. Never heard this name before...

[vino_93]

he did twice rallye des crêtes ;)

[Tom206wrc]

So Stephen Wright on a Fiesta R5 on some events of the BRC ;)

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/994126_764122030333607_9143713643594226117_n.jpg?o h=1497e2e1dc48e77305e3ff042aef0269&oe=5561B8CE

Design for Chris Van Woensel his Mitsu '05 WRC. :)

[mousti]

So Stephen Wright on a Fiesta R5 on some events of the BRC ;)

Ex Barrable, sadly he will not do so much rallies again in Belgium like last year. After a big investment it's logical though.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2bouclesclaviersoises2015_zpsc6b1d485.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwIYbkNG6s)

[rallymen123]

Pictures Boucles Clavieroises 2015 online on www.bvrallypics.be

http://bvrallypics.be/?p=831&wppa-album=196&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1


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[tommeke_B]

First event of BRC next week: Haspengouw. Seeded list should be out by the beginning of next week. Normally one S2000 (Loix) and 5 R5 cars driving: Cherain, Grooten and Verschueren with DS3 R5, Princen with 208 R5 and Dutch driver Becx with a beautiful (see photo) Fiesta R5. :)

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1484276_901286476557001_5168038846307394727_n.jpg? oh=eb1404528bf203c8681c43a1c49b4b83&oe=555323A2

[tommeke_B]

Design for Verschueren's car: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10154316_433989843442400_2250855921772524958_n.jpg ?oh=1b81a922280734872e4fa1acf313d1b1&oe=558385CB&__gda__=1434529346_f5c72ceb531ceaf46ba81ed1e01d087 f

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2legends2015_zps23c133e7.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cLk8CqXd8w)

[MartijnS]

My photos of yesterday are also online!

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/legendbastogne/11550105.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/legendbastogne/58481898.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/legendbastogne/17526646.jpg

More at our Facebook Page (http://facebook.com/rallymedia) or our Website (http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/legendbastogne/legendbastogne.html) !

[tommeke_B]

Cedric Cherain leaves J-Motorsport, he will drive a Citroën DS3 R5 from D-Max in stead. Now J-Motorsport contacted Pieter Tsjoen and they planned to do the complete season together. Both get some official support from Citroën Belux and/or Citroën Racing apparently. So in BRC we will see 4 Citroën DS3 R5's (Cherain, Tsjoen, Verschueren and Grooten)... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Great news :D

[Savage Beast]

Boucles à Bastogne 2015; www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlO98QVA0s

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sfdeborman2_zps161e2a4a.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_0pd2Ddy8w)

[rallymen123]

Pics from Legend Boucles de Bastogne online op www.bvrallypics.be

http://bvrallypics.be/?p=834&wppa-album=197&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/rallymen123043/sized_IMG_6140_zpso9hswqql.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/rallymen123043/sized_IMG_6140_zpso9hswqql.jpg.html)
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[dupanton]

Belgian Championship should be great this year, with several R5s doing a full season. Really looking forward to the first round next weekend. Following drivers should do a full (or almost) season:

Loix (Fabia S2000/R5) with support from Skoda Belgium
Cherain (DS3 R5) with support from Citroën Belgium (and Citroën Sport?)
Tsjoen (DS3 R5) with support from Citroën Belgium
Verschueren (DS3 R5)
Grootten (DS3 R5), at least first half of the season
Princen (208 R5) with support from Peugeot Belgium
Beckx (Fiesta R5)

Snijers (Porsche 997)

Allart (Fabia WRC), can't take much points for the championship with a WRC

Etc...

My prediction: close rallies but in the end, I think Loix will be champion again. Biggest threat should be Cherain and Princen. A lot will depend on the performance of the new Fabia R5.
For next weekend, I predict a Loix victory is the weather is bad. If it's mainly dry, Cherain and Princen should be very close, maybe even Van Woensel (first time with Lancer WRC) could play his role.

[HaCo]

I'm afraid Loix will take it. Cherain showed really nice speed in for example EBR last year, pitty we couldn't compare to Loix that moment.
Princen had the luxury of having a really fast car, but needed a wake up call every rally, was quite slow and made mistakes at the start of several events. But maybe, and he has proven a lot in the past, he is much better in a slower car, more confidence, more speed. In the Evo gr A he made quite some mistakes as well.
Loix will be the man to beat, whoever wins the title, it will be with proper competition this year.

Let's hope the R5 cars will be reliable!

Can't wait for the Haspengouw to start! Backpack is ready to go! :-D

[tommeke_B]

For Haspengouw Chris Van Woensel is my favourite, with so many long straights and junctions... I think there are 2 stages where he could lose some (Halle-Booienhoven a little and Zepperen some more), on the other 2 (Gelmen and Walshoutem) he should gain a lot of seconds with all the straights. I think he will make a better debut with this car than Princen did with the S12. Princen was quite disappointing last year, apart from Rallye du Condroz.

[HaCo]

Actually, if you see what Duval could do in that car in Condroz few years ago (2009), CVW has only one option: to win. Of course he needs to adapt to the car.

Don't quite understand why he switched to a superior car anyway. Is it possible that this Mitsu WRC is less expensive to run than in the mean already quite old Evo X R4?

I can understand he does it for the fun, but certainly not for competition.

[tommeke_B]

Of course that was Duval and he had the whole official MML (former works team and mechanics) around him... ;) Also it's 6 years ago, nobody drives an S2000 of 2009 anymore. The Lancer WRC is certainly more expensive to run than Evo X R4. But probably a bit cheaper than top-S2000 and top-R5. The real expenses of these cars start to show when you go off and do some damage, so far Van Woensel rarely crashes. I think there are enough reasons to choose a Lancer WRC in stead of Evo X R4.
- More attention from people and media (even with current BRC rules)
- More fun
- Better results
- Harder to hit anything with rear wing :p
- Value of car will not drop like the value of Evo X R4 or an R5-car will. Older WRC cars are quite good investments. If you buy a Fiesta R5 and sell it in 2-3 years, it's old and worth maybe 60-70% of value now? If you buy an Evo X R4 it will be the same, probably worse if regulations change. I heard quite positive stories from people who bought WRC cars and could sell them with almost no loss or even small profit after some years. ;)

[SpeedEstRacing]

my vidéo , legend boucles - Bastogne 2015:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph7_-mCnrr0

[tommeke_B]

Kris Princen tested the 208 R5 for the first time yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBRm0jqRSbE

[Tom206wrc]

New WRC car for David Bonjean in the Spa Rally(so he's forfait at this week-end's Haspengouw Rally) :confused:

[MartijnS]

Yes, correct.

[RICARDO75]

Start list Rally Van Haspengouw
http://www.rallyvanhaspengouw.be/index.php/deelnemers/startlijst

[dimviii]

Princen

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/10959122_317241321802738_6838580151224681041_n.jpg ?oh=424ae99dc90c0f2c1d2fb70be3866862&oe=55842646&__gda__=1435305979_3cff63714dd5a029e4d17d2e12f6f7e f

[tommeke_B]

http://haspengouw.rallyresults.be/rally-van-haspengouw-nationaal Link for live results tomorrow. First stage starts at 8h15.

http://www.rallyvanhaspengouw.be/index.php/deelnemers/startlijst Entries.

The stages are least interesting in the Belgian championship, in my opinion. 4 different stages (13 in total). A lot of straights and junctions. One stage (SS Zepperen, SS2-6-10) is very different from others, with half of it being on gravel/mud, and also the asphalt parts are quite interesting (a lot of fast corners), that's the stage where the driver makes the difference. :)

[vino_93]

is their one make cup / trophies ? who are the crews registered for Junior BRC ? Are PTN eligible for Historic champ ?
That's the bad point of the Belgian Entry List. You never have this kind of piece of news, whereas it's interesting to know this.

Good to see an Alfa GTV on entry list :) and really surprise by the Lexus IS300 ...
Golf in N4 ? Golf R32 ?
and Soenens is crazy to start with Corvette ...

[tommeke_B]

No one-make cups. 208 Rally Trophy starts in Spa. PTN are scoring for historic championship indeed. ;) Indeed Belgian entry lists are sometimes a big mess, and starting positions are not always fair for all drivers. The Golf in N4 (in criterium, not Belgian championship) is a Diesel.

[EightGear]

One stage (SS Zepperen, SS2-6-10) is very different from others, with half of it being on gravel/mud, and also the asphalt parts are quite interesting (a lot of fast corners), that's the stage where the driver makes the difference. :)

Onboard with Loix last year: http://youtu.be/S41nb7aCJO4

[tommeke_B]

Onboard with Loix last year: http://youtu.be/S41nb7aCJO4

The stage changed this year. Partly reversed and more gravel.

[Tom206wrc]

No one-make cups. 208 Rally Trophy starts in Spa. PTN are scoring for historic championship indeed. ;) Indeed Belgian entry lists are sometimes a big mess, and starting positions are not always fair for all drivers. The Golf in N4 (in criterium, not Belgian championship) is a Diesel.



But the Junior R2 Cup seems to run in Haspengouw :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Princen in front of Loix by small margin on SS1 van Haspengouw ;)
http://haspengouw.rallyresults.be/rally-van-haspengouw-2015/itinerary/

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Kris on the 9km ES2 ??? :mark:

[MartijnS]

Made a spin. Good time of Becx!