Rally Sweden 2013

[ruesluporp]

I keep a scanned and detailed map of all the special stages for those who are working on their stay in Sweden. You need to know how many spots there are to see? Where are the access roads? What kind of amenities there are? Send me a private message (I cannot post a link because I am new here!)

[Mintexmemory]

I keep a scanned and detailed map of all the special stages for those who are working on their stay in Sweden. You need to know how many spots there are to see? Where are the access roads? What kind of amenities there are? Send me a private message (I cannot post a link because I am new here!)
Great example of why this is THE forum for fans of rallying. Big up ruesluporp :up:

[ruesluporp]

And for those who will attend the Swedish rally with a smartphone or a tablet (Android, IOS or Windows Phone 7), I made my best in order to put all the special stage maps available for MakkaMappa (free little application) so that you can see your GPS position onto the maps in live (off connection)...

Download MakkaMappa, log in, search for their featured maps, find Sweden 2013 or WRC, download the maps, that's all!

[jbmarcus21]

Pontus Tidemand testing Rally Wrc Sweden
Pontus Tidemand prépare le Rallye Wrc Suède 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/pontus-tidemand-prepare-le-rallye-wrc-suede-2013/)

[BleAivano]

I keep a scanned and detailed map of all the special stages for those who are working on their stay in Sweden. You need to know how many spots there are to see? Where are the access roads? What kind of amenities there are? Send me a private message (I cannot post a link because I am new here!)

If you PM one of the moderators perhaps they could put the link into your message?

[ruesluporp]

If you PM one of the moderators perhaps they could put the link into your message?

Yes, why not, or I can publish some bla bla until I get the 15 fateful messages...

[ruesluporp]

Again, for those who will try to get a rally pass or a program when arriving in Sweden, I can send the list of OKQ8 stations where you will be able to find it... (send a PM, it's a jpeg).

[Mintexmemory]

Again, for those who will try to get a rally pass or a program when arriving in Sweden, I can send the list of OKQ8 stations where you will be able to find it... (send a PM, it's a jpeg).

Keep going only 10 posts to go ;)

[ruesluporp]

It's cold outside today... ( :o )

[Franky]

Keep going only 10 posts to go ;)

There's Brother John's Pub for that ;) :D

[Brother John]

Again, for those who will try to get a rally pass or a program when arriving in Sweden, I can send the list of OKQ8 stations where you will be able to find it... (send a PM, it's a jpeg).


The OKQ8 stations on a map :
https://www.box.com/s/i56neem1axurb5vp9j9y
I hope this works here!!!

[ruesluporp]

I'll be back!

[ruesluporp]

The OKQ8 stations on a map :
I hope this works here!!!

It's working: thanks!

[ruesluporp]

I am back!

[Donney]

Pontus Tidemand testing Rally Wrc Sweden
Pontus Tidemand prépare le Rallye Wrc Suède 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/pontus-tidemand-prepare-le-rallye-wrc-suede-2013/)


Thanks great video.
I know it is a silly comment, but it never ceases to amaze me how fast rally drivers, drive on snow and ice...

[ruesluporp]

Is there a sympathetic swedish who could tell me what's the best phone operator (best reception) in Hagfors and Torsby area?

[Astro83]

I think "Telia" is one of the more safe operators but I use "Telenor" and that works just fine also..

[tobbe3]

Petter Solberg is going to drive Rally Sweden Historic in a Ford Escort MkII!!

[uranium]

I am back!

You can take easy now, its already > 15 ;)
It is forum IMHO, not a chat

[peg306]

Is there a sympathetic swedish who could tell me what's the best phone operator (best reception) in Hagfors and Torsby area?
I would say Telia is the best when you are going out in the forest, no matter where in Sweden.

[Salist]

Daily snow report (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup#)

[Viking]

Petter Solberg is going to drive Rally Sweden Historic in a Ford Escort MkII!!

:up:

Petter Solberg enters Rally Sweden Historic | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/en/2013/01/petter-solberg-kor-rally-sweden-historic/)

[Mintexmemory]

:up:

Petter Solberg enters Rally Sweden Historic | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/en/2013/01/petter-solberg-kor-rally-sweden-historic/)

Just hope PS decides to do the RAC this year (maybe with Mr Mills)

[Tom206wrc]

Why isn't Ilka Minor aside of Henning Solberg on this event :confused:

[WRC1]

Why isn't Ilka Minor aside of Henning Solberg on this event :confused:

because she has an agreement with novikov/ m-sport for the whole season! it would be not so wise to drop novikov for just one rally with henning....you know how "unsure" hennings sponors are ....

[BleAivano]

The OKQ8 stations on a map :
https://www.box.com/s/i56neem1axurb5vp9j9y
I hope this works here!!!

the complete list :

http://www.rallysweden.com/en/boka/rallypass/biljetter-pa-okq8/

[ruesluporp]

I think "Telia" is one of the more safe operators but I use "Telenor" and that works just fine also..


I would say Telia is the best when you are going out in the forest, no matter where in Sweden.

So, unanimity on Telia! Thanks guys.

[steffforno]

Loeb is driving AND nominated for Citroen AD, together with Hirvonen
teams can nominate maximum 2 drivers, so Sordo is 3rd wheel on the bike/ 5th wheel on the car
So Sordo is supporting Al Qassimi in scoring point for Abu Dhabi C.

Yes .. Loeb Will do Sweden because Sordo ain't. Too fast in this Rally!!! Words of Loeb or Sordo!!

[Astro83]

Pontus Tidemand Vintertest Ford Focus WRC 05 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/h5R4GP6NrxM)

Offtopic maby, but here is Tidemands test, the same as with the Fiesta WRC (for Swedish championship in "sprint" 26th of Januari, and for Rally Sweden), but with a Focus WRC 05 for the Swedish campionship this year. He will drive in the WRC class in the championship and it will probely be this Focus WRC he will compete with...

[alleskids]

Yes .. Loeb Will do Sweden because Sordo ain't. Too fast in this Rally!!! Words of Loeb or Sordo!!

Sordo has #14 in 2013 Rally Sweden and is nominated for Abu Dhabi Citroen Total WRT, as teammate of #10 Khalid Al Qasiimi

[J4MIE]

Fantastic news about Petter!!! :up:

Hopefully there is plenty of snow for him to have fun in ;)

[steffforno]

Sordo has #14 in 2013 Rally Sweden and is nominated for Abu Dhabi Citroen Total WRT, as teammate of #10 Khalid Al Qasiimi

I had heard so..

[ruesluporp]

Bad news: forecast for Hagfors http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/464219ForecastHagfors.jpg

[Prisoner Monkeys]

because she has an agreement with novikov/ m-sport for the whole season! it would be not so wise to drop novikov for just one rally with henning....you know how "unsure" hennings sponors are ....
And Novikov seems to work better with her than he has with any of his other co-drivers in the past.

[Mikkaki]

Is there a sympathetic swedish who could tell me what's the best phone operator (best reception) in Hagfors and Torsby area?

In the swedish rally forest your only choice is Mina Sidor - Privat - Telia.se (http://www.Telia.se) others like "3" dosent work very well at the countryside.

[spiderem]

And Novikov seems to work better with her than he has with any of his other co-drivers in the past.
i kinda disagree as IMO giraudet was bringing a lot of experience to novikov...

[J.Lindstroem]

i kinda disagree as IMO giraudet was bringing a lot of experience to novikov...

Yes i think Novikov has a lot to thank Giraduet for when it comes to experience, consistancy and ability to finish rallies. Also its to early to talk about the co-work between Novikov and Minor since it takes way longer than just one event to form a demanting driver codriver relationship like that.

[Mintexmemory]

Yes i think Novikov has a lot to thank Giraduet for when it comes to experience, consistancy and ability to finish rallies. Also its to early to talk about the co-work between Novikov and Minor since it takes way longer than just one event to form a demanting driver codriver relationship like that.
Don't forget Ilka was with Evgeny for the last 4 events of 2012. I commented last year on what a difference DG had appeared to make to Novikov's driving and he is obviously still closely connected.

[bluuford]

i kinda disagree as IMO giraudet was bringing a lot of experience to novikov...
Look what happened after Finland, after he changed co-driver:
Germany=accident (Klinger)
GB= 6th place (Minor)
France = two crashes, but finished 7th (Minor)
Sardegna = 2nd Place (Minor)
Spain = Off road, Superally 10th (Minor)
Monte = Crash (Minor)

Before Finland, he had only one major crash (in Mexico) in 7 rallies.

No to evaluate the experinece and skills. Just for statistics

[uranium]

"Oh, Eugeniy, Eugeniy..." (c) Giraudet

[Doon]

Booked the rallybus for fri/sat. Anyone used it before? Any good? Do they give you a time that you have to leave each stage?

[ruesluporp]

In the swedish rally forest your only choice is Mina Sidor - Privat - Telia.se (http://www.Telia.se) others like "3" dosent work very well at the countryside.

Thanks!

[ruesluporp]

Forecast for Hagfors has been updated! More snow expected for next week...
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/464610Forecast.jpg

[worldrallynews]

This year´s Rally Sweden is going to be epic! Wish I could go...

[Iskald]

It will surprise me to see Henning on the start line. Doesn't seem to have anything fixed for the moment and has just put in an entry in case something pops up. But then again, he has surprised us before...

[spiderem]

"Oh, Eugeniy, Eugeniy..." (c) Giraudet
that was in France if i remember well?
really liked giraudet's reaction!!!

[BleAivano]

Bad news: forecast for Hagfors http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/464219ForecastHagfors.jpg

Not sure which forecast you use but this is what you should look at:

Prognos Hagfors | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/land/hourByHourTable.do?starttime=2013-01-24%2023%3A00%3A00&endtime=2013-02-02%2022%3A59%3A00&geonameid=2709214)
Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors Kommun, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Hagfors_Kommun/langtidsvarsel.html)

[Kielder]

Hasse Gustafsson's livery:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBakwHECAAAiCDg.jpg:large

[Kielder]

Older brother, younger brother:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBYpq1HCQAIn_oE.png:large

[ruesluporp]

Not sure which forecast you use but this is what you should look at:

Prognos Hagfors | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/land/hourByHourTable.do?starttime=2013-01-24%2023%3A00%3A00&endtime=2013-02-02%2022%3A59%3A00&geonameid=2709214)
Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors Kommun, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Hagfors_Kommun/langtidsvarsel.html)

Yes, but pretty much the same than mine at yr.no (Langtidsvarsel for Karlstad, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Karlstad/langtidsvarsel.html))

[Coach 2]

Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/Värmland/Hagfors/langtidsvarsel.html)

Maybe closer to where the stages are.

[Astro83]

If you want to look at the Swedish rally championship in "Sprint" tomorrow LIVE, so click here!!

SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 12.10 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/971760/26-1-11-00)

Tidemand will drive in a Fiesta WRC, a good start line up...

12.10-13.00 swedish time
14.00-15.00. -"-

[Prisoner Monkeys]

i kinda disagree as IMO giraudet was bringing a lot of experience to novikov...
Experience isn't the only thing that counts here. You could have the single most experienced co-driver in the world alongside Novikov, but if the two don't get along, then that experience isn't going to count for much.

[Astro83]

SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 13:50 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/982358/26-1-13-50)

Link for live broadcast from Falun, 13.50 swedish time..

[Mad cat jnr]

Got a link to an entry list for the sprint rally?

[Kielder]

Got a link to an entry list for the sprint rally?

Here you can follow the times and see the crews of the entry list: Race Consultings results service (http://ww2.raceconsulting.com/rally/resultat/totalresultat.jsp;jsessionid=278447D57743CF8724C6B 53E88E7090C?tavling=615)

[Jordib]

SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 13:50 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/982358/26-1-13-50)

Link for live broadcast from Falun, 13.50 swedish time..

Thanks for the link!!! it looks great!

[Kielder]

Excellent quality of the streaming!

[Astro83]

Your welcome! But it's a big delay in the rally... Time, and broadcast truble. SS2 will start now... The final starts in 1 1/2 hours time!

They can only show 4 cameras on the stage! But SVT work on it!

SVT will show live from Rally Sweden also! Check out SVT play for more info...

Glad you like it! :)

[Astro83]

It's some drivers who is missed, Dick Wicksell in his Impreza WRC S10 had some test-truble, and Patrik Sandell in Östbergs private Fiesta WRC has lost his driver licence after speeding...

[Salist]

Live coverage - Sprint
SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 12.10 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/971760/26-1-12-10)

[Jordib]

Your welcome! But it's a big delay in the rally... Time, and broadcast truble. SS2 will start now... The final starts in 1 1/2 hours time!

They can only show 4 cameras on the stage! But SVT work on it!

SVT will show live from Rally Sweden also! Check out SVT play for more info...

Glad you like it! :)

Really? wich stages? Luckily i will be there to follow onsite :)

4 cameras is a lot more than usual in WRC, it's great!

Shame for Sandell, how long without license?

[Kielder]

Piece of news about Sandell's speeding: Rallyföraren Patrik Sandell åkte fast för fortkörning och missar SM-tävling - Nyheter P4 Jämtland (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=78&artikel=5420782)

[Astro83]

I dont know how long Sandell will be without his driverlicence, but it's stupid to speeding when you are a professional rallydriver...

Yea it's a good work of SVT!

I will update for times for Rally Sweden when it comes.. But it will be on Svt play and in the original broadcast!

Update the streaming for SS2 when time ends up for streeming!

[Kielder]

The only problem is that the Geo IP location won't allow to see the streaming of Rally Sweden in many countries. Anyway, SVT did an incredible job last year racing against the clock :) . I'll always remember what CEO Glenn Olsson did for the sport.

[Astro83]

SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 14:25 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/982358/26-1-14-25)

The final begins in about 50min...

Tidemand is leading of Mats Jonsson...

[Jordib]

Great broadcasting from SVT, it's incredible what can be done with only 4 cameras in good spots along the stage, with splits working and i think good commentators (unfortunately i don't understand swedish). I can't believe why it is not possible to do something like that in WRC.

[Astro83]

Jordib, I agree with you 100%

It,s sad, because that's what WRC needs! I had hoped for more with the new promotor but the broadcast from Monte was not so good I think. Very little stagetime, and sadly a lot of other ****. But I hope that was because it was the first rally of the season?

[BleAivano]

Great broadcasting from SVT, it's incredible what can be done with only 4 cameras in good spots along the stage, with splits working and i think good commentators (unfortunately i don't understand swedish). I can't believe why it is not possible to do something like that in WRC.

I think its fully possible but that is is a cost issue. Have in mind that this is only one short (~7km) stage,
a WRC round is a 20+stages event with many longer stages.Then you will realize the enormous length of all necessary
power cables to the cameras and then the video cables from the cameras to the media center.

Then you will also need someone to man all those cameras.

[Jordib]

I think its fully possible but that is is a cost issue. Have in mind that this is only one short (~7km) stage,
a WRC round is a 20+stages event with many longer stages.Then you will realize the enormous length of all necessary
power cables to the cameras and then the video cables from the cameras to the media center.

Then you will also need someone to man all those cameras.

I think that we will all be happy to see a short stage of every WRC rally like this one in Sweden. I don't expect full coverage like Montes in Eurosport like years ago yet, only something like that will be better than nothing. And if SVT can do this for a local rally with limited audience i don't think it's so expensive.

[BleAivano]

The final is imminent: SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 14:25 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/982358/26-1-14-25)

[Mad cat jnr]

Very good coverage! I think I best learn some Swedish ready to watch the WRC coverage ;)

[bassist]

The final is imminent: SM-veckan: Rally - 26/1 14:25 | SVT Play (http://www.svtplay.se/video/982358/26-1-14-25)

Well, bloody marvelous, no WRC coverage in UK , but I can live stream a Rally Sprint from Sweden, just by following the link. This is rediculous!!!!

[BleAivano]

Great driving by Tidemand.

[Fly_Half]

Well, bloody marvelous, no WRC coverage in UK , but I can live stream a Rally Sprint from Sweden, just by following the link. This is rediculous!!!!

Puts everything into perspective for us in the UK doesn't it!

[Astro83]

Yea that's strange that UK does not have any coverage of the WRC! :S

Really great drive by Pontus, and I hope for a top 10 in Rally Sweden!

I hope you all have enjoyed some swedish championship tv today! ;)

[Franky]

I think its fully possible but that is is a cost issue. Have in mind that this is only one short (~7km) stage,
a WRC round is a 20+stages event with many longer stages.Then you will realize the enormous length of all necessary
power cables to the cameras and then the video cables from the cameras to the media center.

Then you will also need someone to man all those cameras.

About the cables. There's only one cable for the camera through which image signal, power and communication with the control room go.

An example from the luge world cup, e.g. Sigulda race. The track is 1,2km long with 16 turns. Can't remember how many cameras there were but quite many. Planned time for cabling was two days. Sth like 15km of cables were put down, I think. Now think how it would be with a long stage, not to talk about several stages per rally.

[Fly_Half]

Really enjoyed that live coverage, and it's got me even more excited for WRC Sweden!

Some of the top runners there looked very quick, until Tidemand came through. On a completely different level to the rest.

Rhod

[Vargåsen]

About the cables. There's only one cable for the camera through which image signal, power and communication with the control room go.

An example from the luge world cup, e.g. Sigulda race. The track is 1,2km long with 16 turns. Can't remember how many cameras there were but quite many. Planned time for cabling was two days. Sth like 15km of cables were put down, I think. Now think how it would be with a long stage, not to talk about several stages per rally.

But I dont's think it's necessary with cameras in every corner. Like on the sprint today, 3-4 cameras is sufficient on a stage in my opinion, it doesn't matter if it's 7 km or 40 km. It's exciting with an image of an empty road with a clock ticking waiting for the car as well. The most important thing is to have the timing functional, today that part wasn't perfect.

[Franky]

But I dont's think it's necessary with cameras in every corner. Like on the sprint today, 3-4 cameras is sufficient on a stage in my opinion, it doesn't matter if it's 7 km or 40 km. It's exciting with an image of an empty road with a clock ticking waiting for the car as well.

If you want a decent high quality broadcast you need lots of different cameras to attract even the average Joe. For Christ sake, rally fans would be happy even if they could see only onboard cameras live.

For high end you'd need several cameras at the key locations, onboard cameras, preferably a helicopter and logically a stage end interview camera

[BleAivano]

But I dont's think it's necessary with cameras in every corner. Like on the sprint today, 3-4 cameras is sufficient on a
stage in my opinion, it doesn't matter if it's 7 km or 40 km. It's exciting with an image of an empty road with a clock ticking
waiting for the car as well. The most important thing is to have the timing functional, today that part wasn't perfect.

I agree that there is no need for a camera in every bend but I think on a stage like Vargåsen which about 25km
I think maybe 5 cameras would be minimum. I also agree with what say about the fixed camera position and the clock.

However in the end if you have 5,6, or 7 cameras isn't a big difference. If you want a camera in the middle of the stage,
you still need to put a cable out to it. That is 12km of cable. Then you could just as well put a camera or two in between.

[EightGear]

Remember France last year? All stages live. Onboard, helicopters and one fixed camera in the middle of the stages. 2 or 3 more cameras would have been better, but other than that is was excellent.

And these were all stages, imagine just 1 or 2 stages shown each day of a rally. France proved (not just last year but also in 2011!!) it is absolutely possible.

[Hartusvuori]

Remember France last year? All stages live. Onboard, helicopters and one fixed camera in the middle of the stages. 2 or 3 more cameras would have been better, but other than that is was excellent.

And these were all stages, imagine just 1 or 2 stages shown each day of a rally. France proved (not just last year but also in 2011!!) it is absolutely possible.

When you take rally to forests like in Sweden or Finland, helicopter isn't anymore best for filming. With handful of fixed cameras and helicopter it of course could be possible, but - it's WRC. With forum(s), Twitter, Facebooks, friends and WRR, we don't really need one-place-for-all live tv, now do we.

[EightGear]

When you take rally to forests like in Sweden or Finland, helicopter isn't anymore best for filming. With handful of fixed cameras and helicopter it of course could be possible, but - it's WRC. With forum(s), Twitter, Facebooks, friends and WRR, we don't really need one-place-for-all live tv, now do we.

We don't, but to make the sport more popular it is kind of vital. You are from Finland so things related to rallying are bit more positive there I'd guess. :D

[Hartusvuori]

You are from Finland so things related to rallying are bit more positive there I'd guess. :D

Hmm... let's see. I don't use paychannels, so let's see what I get from free-from-all channels.

WRC: 10 minutes with few shots and interviews aired around 10.30PM, mostly commercials. 30 minute end of day reviews aired between 0.30-3.00 AM. Not very prime time, and if you want to record it, put some extra because it always starts late. Last year they showed one-hour review of each rally about a week after the event on Saturday midday (again, not prime time). I trusted that if I remembered it. From MTV3 pay channel I think there's some extra or at least better broadcasting times.

FRC: 30 minute review a week after the event.
IRC/ERC: Nothing. (Few years ago one sports channel aired Eurosport reviews some 1-2 months after the event.)
F-Cup: Nothing for free.
Rallysprints: Nothing?
Rallycross: Nothing?

So, I watch a rallysprint from Swedish forests anytime when broadcasted online :-) Rallying is truly being pushed to the marginal here as well.

And of course I was being sarcastic in my previous post. Of course WRC needs a world-class television production.

[Fly_Half]

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!

[A FONDO]

Of course WRC needs a world-class television production.
In the present days of popularity crysis, the WRC needs a world class footage broadcasted on the internet. Because:

1. Propaganda - all WRC fans around the world have an internet connection, but not all of them have access to that particular channel. Also, in internet you can watch recorded footage at any time you want, while timeshift for TV is not that widespread.
2. Advertising - websites measure more precisely the number of people who have opened the page and seen the commercials.

[ruesluporp]

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!

I am not a scandinavian, but my tablet's applications gave me these informations:
- the sun will be low on the horizon (1.1°) at 8:20 am
- there are trees on the side of the road and that will give unfortunatly less light for your photos

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/600702photo1.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/259972photo.jpg

[hari]

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!
Here is a pic taken at the stage last year at 07:58.

http://www.ir7.at/swe12_1.jpg

The stage started at 08:04 last year. Light was no problem at the place about 20 kms into the stage, but it is more open area than at the finish.

http://www.ir7.at/swe12_2.jpg

Last years best time was 14:13 min.

[Kielder]

I'm looking forward to seeing him in Rally Sweden behind the wheel of a WRC... :eek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XWGITAcqEQQ

[BleAivano]

you can use this to see when the sun sets/rises: http://rl.se/sol_maane choose karlstad in the first box
and then 2013-02-08 in the second. Then click byt.

[Plan9]

What will Sandell be doing this year? I have not read anything about the WRC.

[ruesluporp]

What will Sandell be doing this year? I have not read anything about the WRC.

He is still in a rally car!
From Kielder, Yesterday
Piece of news about Sandell's speeding: Rallyföraren Patrik Sandell åkte fast för fortkörning och missar SM-tävling - Nyheter P4 Jämtland (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=78&artikel=5420782)

Five days ago, as somebody asked him what was his program for 2013, he answered: "there are several options. Rally in China could be one. But I have not decided yet" (http://www.rallysm.se/index.php/nyheter)

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8GQVhvHgJs&feature=youtu.be

[Juha_Koo]

Why is Tidemand testing with narrow tyres?

[Kielder]

Why is Tidemand testing with narrow tyres?

The footage is from a Rallysprint that he won yesterday.

[Plan9]

He is still in a rally car!
From Kielder, Yesterday
Piece of news about Sandell's speeding: Rallyföraren Patrik Sandell åkte fast för fortkörning och missar SM-tävling - Nyheter P4 Jämtland (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=78&artikel=5420782)

Five days ago, as somebody asked him what was his program for 2013, he answered: "there are several options. Rally in China could be one. But I have not decided yet" (Rally-SM 2013 - Nyheter (http://www.rallysm.se/index.php/nyheter))

Thanks. I was hoping Prodrive would put him in with Nikara for some round this year. Otherwise its another good driver being under utilized.

[Hartusvuori]

Two questions:

Any idea where this part is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ArvY3ccUxmI#t=33s

(You can hit me with a PM if you don't want to shout it out loud.)

Also, the shortening of Sågen stage by 450 metres, does it mean the famous hairpin at the end is not run?

[Viking]

DMACK's

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601247_10152664947480413_613711031_n.jpg

[Kielder]

Also, the shortening of Sågen stage by 450 metres, does it mean the famous hairpin at the end is not run?

Yes, it does. From the official website:

"The stage finish at Sågen is moved back 450 meters. Last years’ spectator area can not be used due to fresh plantations. Follow the marshals’ instructions to the new spectator area".

[Salist]

Ohh noooo!!! The last 500m was really good area. :-(


Yes, it does. From the official website:

"The stage finish at Sågen is moved back 450 meters. Last years’ spectator area can not be used due to fresh plantations. Follow the marshals’ instructions to the new spectator area".

[Kielder]

Ohh noooo!!! The last 500m was really good area. :-(

Yes, indeed. I still remember the onboard footage of Gronholm on Motors TV in 2010, when he won his favourite stage for the last time.
This is possibly the best video recorded there by spectators that I've ever watched:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR7D0HN9s94

[Koceens]

After wathcing Sågen onboard I think there are still plenty of nice places if you go in the stage from the finish. Btw, anyone who has been there, how is the parking organised and how far spectators have to go to reach the stage? I'm planning to manage Hagfors sprint stage after Sågen, but still not sure is this possible. :)

[MartijnS]

Yeah cool spot that last hairpin. I'm in that video at the inside of the corner :)
We went there the second run. Hated the walk up though. First you had to follow some old train track or something with lots of snow it and than the steep climb.. :D

[BleAivano]

After wathcing Sågen onboard I think there are still plenty of nice places if you go in the stage from the finish.
Btw, anyone who has been there, how is the parking organised and how far spectators have to go to reach the stage? I'm planning to manage
Hagfors sprint stage after Sågen, but still not sure is this possible. :)

Parking at Sågen is like most other spectator areas in Rally Sweden, a total mess since there is no parking.

[ruesluporp]

After wathcing Sågen onboard I think there are still plenty of nice places if you go in the stage from the finish. Btw, anyone who has been there, how is the parking organised and how far spectators have to go to reach the stage? I'm planning to manage Hagfors sprint stage after Sågen, but still not sure is this possible. :)

Depending on your arrival time, there is a walk of approximately 1,800 meters to the last hairpin of the stage (25 minutes).

Jari-Matti last year: Jari-Matti Latvala - SS16 Sågen -2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1tH8H9ngNI)

[Koceens]

Has someone successfully reached the Sågen stage by car using the access road which leads to the middle of the stage? I tried to do that in 2011, but that year was plenty of snow and this access road wasn't cleaned.

[bennizw]

I won't bet on that road being cleared. I spoke to an official regarding that access road yesterday, and he reckoned it won't be cleared. So, the only choice you have for Sågen is the start, the access road from the north a couple of km in, and the finish.

[MikeD]

I have just been told that it's a private team that will run/prepare Pintus Tidemans Fiesta WRC, since M-Sport couldn't handle more cars. Anybody know which team will run/prepare Tidemans car?

[tolis]

I have just been told that it's a private team that will run/prepare Pintus Tidemans Fiesta WRC, since M-Sport couldn't handle more cars. Anybody know which team will run/prepare Tidemans car?
Maybe the Ingemar Svensson's team whose car is driver by Tidemand?

[Astro83]

That's right, Ingemar Svensson Rallying.... Google and you will find his homepage. And I think that's with some little support from M-Sport. They will update the car for Rally Sweden. Pontus is driving the firt event of the Swedish Championship this weekend in Sandviken in the Fiesta before they start to test for Rally Sweden.

[EightGear]

No PGA?

[Marcia]

Best rally fans,
LAST MINUTE, for those who still have no place to sleep in the middle of the "rally" Hagfors, Sweden 2013:
Rent a house for 4-6 persons, see my profile for more information.
You can always contact us.
Everyone: enjoy the rally!

Greetz, Marcia[attachment=1:xs0a6u9d]tgelehuisje79.jpg[/attachment:xs0a6u9d]

[tobbe3]

Does someone know if there is any good corners at the spectator area RANSBYSÄTTER? I´ve been watcing some videos but it´s just straight forward all the time :( Grateful for answers

[katxal]

No PGA?

Nope

[Hartusvuori]

Seems to be the case: P-G missar Svenska rallyt - nwt.se - Ditt Värmland, just nu! (http://www.nwt.se/sport/motorsport/article1241412.ece)

Very, very sad situation for Swedish rallying. No PGA, no Flodin, no Sandell. Tidemand must shine.

[KAMV]

Has someone successfully reached the Sågen stage by car using the access road which leads to the middle of the stage? I tried to do that in 2011, but that year was plenty of snow and this access road wasn't cleaned.

We reached last year the middle of the stage via the road to Bäcken and then to the stage. We did it with a van ( Ford Transit ) on snow tyres ( no nails ). You need some luck to avoid as much as possible the reverse traffic, but we had no major problems to reach it. There is a possibillity to turn your car a bit before the stage on the road to the left.
We watched all the cars and afterwards we just got in time for Hagfors Sprint.
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See picture of this stage Sägen

[SubaruNorway]

Has someone successfully reached the Sågen stage by car using the access road which leads to the middle of the stage? I tried to do that in 2011, but that year was plenty of snow and this access road wasn't cleaned.

Some friends of mine managed it in a Grand Vitara last year. But not recommended in anything lower than that for sure.

[Astro83]

It's so sad that PG will not start in the rally but I really not like Proton, it's a ****ty rallyteam with no quality and no future.... PG is a really great driver but as so many drivers, there is no money to pay for a seat in a big team!

He really needs a new team in ERC or WRC/WRC2! He is better then driving for Proton!

Sandell is some kind of joke... He will never be a WRC driver, he is good at PR but not near as good as PG and Flodin as a driver... He can continue with his other events in mountainbike....

Really sad for sweden, but I think that Tidemand has the right qualitys and the support that needs to succeed....

But as always in motorsport these days.... Money rules, not always a great driver....

[Fly_Half]

Anyone think it's possible to do three stages on Friday and Saturday?

[tommeke_B]

Possible on to see 4 stages on each friday, saturday and sunday... If you watch only a limited number of cars and on places with good access ;) I must say I think on friday from Lesjofors to Vargasen and on sunday from Finnskogen 2 to Torsby will be quite tense in shedule...

[SubaruNorway]

Unfortunately watching a limited number of cars means you have to stay at a stage for at least 30min anyway to get the best drivers in WRC with the qualification now. Think Latvala was 17th on the road last year, 17 cars with 2 min gaps. Won't be far off that this year too i guess. Staying 30min at Finnskogen 2 and then Torsby would give you too little time, 15 min if you are lucky going into SP1 at Torsby from stage end area of Finnskogen....

https://maps.google.no/maps?saddr=R%C3%B8gdenvegen%2FRv202&daddr=60.4025428,12.3757834+to:Ukjent+vei&hl=no&ie=UTF8&ll=60.215262,12.837524&spn=0.474795,1.448822&sll=60.116155,13.334055&sspn=0.028823,0.090551&geocode=FQK-mAMdAaK7AA%3BFW6rmQMd59a8ACn5n1kTv2dCRjG2JXDosEy1s Q%3BFcNPlQMd5x_LAA&oq=Torntorp&mra=dme&mrsp=2&sz=14&via=1&t=m&z=10

[BlueShift]

Very lucky, would love to see this!

[tommeke_B]

Unfortunately watching a limited number of cars means you have to stay at a stage for at least 30min anyway to get the best drivers in WRC with the qualification now. Think Latvala was 17th on the road last year, 17 cars with 2 min gaps. Won't be far off that this year too i guess. Staying 30min at Finnskogen 2 and then Torsby would give you too little time, 15 min if you are lucky going into SP1 at Torsby from stage end area of Finnskogen....

https://maps.google.no/maps?saddr=R%C3%B8gdenvegen%2FRv202&daddr=60.4025428,12.3757834+to:Ukjent+vei&hl=no&ie=UTF8&ll=60.215262,12.837524&spn=0.474795,1.448822&sll=60.116155,13.334055&sspn=0.028823,0.090551&geocode=FQK-mAMdAaK7AA%3BFW6rmQMd59a8ACn5n1kTv2dCRjG2JXDosEy1s Q%3BFcNPlQMd5x_LAA&oq=Torntorp&mra=dme&mrsp=2&sz=14&via=1&t=m&z=10

Rv201 til Ukjent vei - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/KgJUy) - How about this? From start of Finnskogen to the end of Torsby... Gives you a few extra minutes compared to going from finish of one stage to the start of another. And it should be a shorter drive (saving some 5 to 10 minutes) between the stages I think. :)

[Antony Warmbold]

Two questions:

Any idea where this part is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ArvY3ccUxmI#t=33s

(You can hit me with a PM if you don't want to shout it out loud.)

Also, the shortening of Sågen stage by 450 metres, does it mean the famous hairpin at the end is not run?

I believe it is shakedown next to the hagfors service park

[euskalteam]

Hi guys, do you know if any change on the timing system respect the Monte will be taken??

[Kielder]

Hi guys, do you know if any change on the timing system respect the Monte will be taken??

A tweet ten hours ago...

Kielder ‏@Redleik (https://twitter.com/Redleik) :D Rally Sweden manager, Bertil Klarin, has shown his concern for the timing and tracking of @RallySweden (https://twitter.com/RallySweden). S1T back! @simondebanke (https://twitter.com/simondebanke) #WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash) @fia (https://twitter.com/fia)

[Iskald]

Rv201 til Ukjent vei - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/KgJUy) - How about this? From start of Finnskogen to the end of Torsby... Gives you a few extra minutes compared to going from finish of one stage to the start of another. And it should be a shorter drive (saving some 5 to 10 minutes) between the stages I think. :)

Its shorter, but it depends on you managing to park the car close to the start of the Finnskogen stage. I think they will be very strict regarding parking on road 201, possibly it will not be allowed at all.

[SubaruNorway]

I believe it is shakedown next to the hagfors service park

Can't remember any sections like that in Shakedown, looks more like the start of Finnskogen. 57 sec is for sure as i remember seeing the marks in the snowbank when walking out of the stage.

[SubaruNorway]

Rv201 til Ukjent vei - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/KgJUy) - How about this? From start of Finnskogen to the end of Torsby... Gives you a few extra minutes compared to going from finish of one stage to the start of another. And it should be a shorter drive (saving some 5 to 10 minutes) between the stages I think. :)

You never know, i parked here at the start of Finnskogen last year, room for 10 cars. There were some on the road too if i don't remember wrong.
https://maps.google.no/maps?saddr=Rv201&daddr=60.402542,12.375782+to:60.381563,12.6636124+ to:Ukjent+vei&hl=no&ll=60.426717,12.245802&spn=0.001843,0.005659&sll=60.360838,12.635479&sspn=0.065282,0.264187&geocode=FV8LmgMdkey6AA%3BFW6rmQMd5ta8ACn5n1kTv2dCR jG2JXDosEy1sQ%3BFXtZmQMdPDvBACnpb2VEmopCRjFW2Ol7fs y6Lg%3BFYJolQMdDu7MAA&mra=dpe&mrsp=2&sz=13&via=1,2&t=h&z=18

[Brother John]

Possible on to see 4 stages on each friday, saturday and sunday... If you watch only a limited number of cars and on places with good access ;) I must say I think on friday from Lesjofors to Vargasen and on sunday from Finnskogen 2 to Torsby will be quite tense in shedule...

Yes I remember that from in Belgium, where everyone wants to see every day as much as possible stages. ;-)

[cali]

Rv201 til Ukjent vei - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/KgJUy) - How about this? From start of Finnskogen to the end of Torsby... Gives you a few extra minutes compared to going from finish of one stage to the start of another. And it should be a shorter drive (saving some 5 to 10 minutes) between the stages I think. :)
As I have been in Sweden quite several times, you should understand that this rally is very popular and traffic jams are inevitable. Especially Vargasen, Sagen, Finnskogen are very popular. 4 stages in a day is achievable though, but good planning is needed. Also access roads are slippery and icy, so for a guy from Belgium it's very slippery ;) Couple years ago guys from Netherlands went off to a ditch just in front of us and because we stopped and helped them back on the road, we missed one stage. But it was worth it. So make your plans not too tight and drive carefully :)

[stefanvv]

:D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQQaZoEZKN8

EDIT: Shall we see something similar this year :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes I remember that from in Belgium, where everyone wants to see every day as much as possible stages. ;-)

Except me, I prefer to watch all the drivers in their cars. :)

[Fly_Half]

Thanks for the replies, I'd rather not disappear after the top 15 cars and miss the S2000s and other WRC crews, so 3/4 stages a day would be too much of a push with the likely heavy traffic. Plus some of the locations we've planned on involve a fair bit of walking!

Rhod

[satukata]

[quote="Hartusvuori"]:

Any idea where this parts are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ArvY3ccUxmI#t=33s

[Antony Warmbold]

Can't remember any sections like that in Shakedown, looks more like the start of Finnskogen. 57 sec is for sure as i remember seeing the marks in the snowbank when walking out of the stage.

my bad

[pino]

No snow ? Here's how it looks right now in Munkfors near service park :s

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/31/eny2uvyq.jpg

[WRC1]

I know bluuford is very busy with detail progoses for erc latvia, but what about sweden??

till i saw the picture of pino, i had no worries that it will be a proper snow rally, but it looks like it can be (at least a mixed surface race) :(

please bluuford, if you have time left, would you check your predictions for next week arround hagfors? THX!!

[bluuford]

Do not worry, Southern Sweden has one of the most extreme temperature gradients. The fact that there is not much snow in small down 20 km south from Hagfors does not show much. According to the data that is available right now I can see that the rally will be held in near perfect conditions.. well, some Minttu and very warm clothes are also useful (For -20 degrees).
Webcam picture close to Sagen stage (Only 35km NE from Hafors):
http://www.huisjeinzweden.nl/webcam/out.jpg

[WRC1]

Do not worry, Southern Sweden has one of the most extreme temperature gradients. The fact that there is not much snow in small down 20 km south from Hagfors does not show much. According to the data that is available right now I can see that the rally will be held in near perfect conditions.. well, some Minttu and very warm clothes are also useful (For -20 degrees).
Webcam picture close to Sagen stage (Only 35km NE from Hafors):
http://www.huisjeinzweden.nl/webcam/out.jpg

yes!!! thanx bluuford (hannes) that is exactly what i wanted to hear!! :)

[Rallyper]

Forecast for next week says a couple of cm of snow in minus degrees, and later on during the rally it will be cold - below -10 C all weekend. Icy stages and snowbanks but not really much snow though.

[danon]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3143/rswe2013.jpg

[rallye-vid]

Is that Mikko on the way to sweden? ;)

[rayh_mx]

Is that Mikko on the way to sweden? ;)
Very funny the videos of Citroen and Mikko. :D
There are videos of him in this year?

[SunDanceRanch]

This is the weather forecast for next week.
Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors Kommun, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/Värmland/Hagfors_Kommun/langtidsvarsel.html)

Greetings Dimitry

[had_zachau]

Martin Hudec

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/148305_570275593002523_443336378_n.jpg

[pucky54]

Martin Hudec

Problems with his license are sorted out???

[had_zachau]

Yes, he has back his licence.

[Sulland]

By the way; Hud means skin in Norwegian/Danish! Cool livery imo!


Martin Hudec

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/148305_570275593002523_443336378_n.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

The organisers of Rally Sweden are inviting fans to choose the head-to-head pairings for the Karlstad Super Special Stage that opens the event on February 7th.
Pairing suggestions should be posted on the Rally Sweden Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/OfficialRallySweden
The organisers, in cooperation with the FIA, will divide the heats according to the number of nominations.
Clerk of the Course Bertil Klarin said it is the first time ever that spectators have been able to influence the starting order of a WRC event.
“We tried this idea in the Swedish National Championship event we organised in 2009, which also opened with the Super Special Stage, and the interest was huge and we received a great number of suggestions of interesting duels. Now we want to try the same thing at the WRC level and offer the spectators the opportunity to see their dream heats,” explained Klarin
“Just one look at the entry list for Rally Sweden no doubt gets the imagination going. To put together a number of dream heats amongst all the top drivers won’t be hard,” he added.



Loeb v Ogier
Latvala v Hirvonen
Hanninen v Ostberg
Novikov v Ketomaa

Come on guys get voting for that first pairing!!!!

[stefanvv]

Loeb v Ogier
Latvala v Hirvonen
Hanninen v Ostberg
Novikov v Ketomaa

Come on guys get voting for that first pairing!!!!

I support the first pairing, but for the others shouldn't be better for example Latvala vs Hanninen & Hirvonen vs Ostberg?
BTW I couldn't find poll there, should I login in FB to post a comment?

[Mintexmemory]

I support the first pairing, but for the others shouldn't be better for example Latvala vs Hanninen & Hirvonen vs Ostberg?
BTW I couldn't find poll there, should I login in FB to post a comment?

Perhaps try the direct link from wrc.com ?

[Bartolbia84]

Loeb vs Latvala
Hirvonen vs Ostberg
Ogier vs Sordo
Al Qassimi vs Al Attiyad
Prokop vs Nikara
Kosciuszko vs H.Solberg
Novikov vs Hanninen
Neuville vs Tidemand
Gustafsson vs Ketomaa
Tamzarov vs Guerra

[Kielder]

Solberg vs Tidemand
Ketomaa vs Brynildsen

:D

[Kielder]

The house always wins.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCCM8fuCAAAo8Hm.jpg:large
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/725721627.jpg?key=761960&Expires=1359739964&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=SdIVhU5METOkDCnZER5179gz40DgMZ7Vqgxt-LzTCXYHOeqht6sneBlQtxewEhzxy-eKTrXIk715DRv4A8t5T7npI4nA95KaWh2BG892VRQrxiBNwt-k~z7Y7m15vnSzLILJWUS-y9a7Xr7xp5s1d6n5nv9nCOsfIJhg4z0n0wA_

[Mintexmemory]

Solberg vs Tidemand
Ketomaa vs Brynildsen

:D

Veiled threats to stop allowance if stepdad gets beaten!!!

[AP-Racing]

What about Guerra? He is running?

[Co-driven]

What about Guerra? He is running?

I think his debut with the DS3 was postponed to Mexico.

[Kielder]

OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC) WRC
MICHELIN X-Ice North tyres ready for Sweden next week. Each one is fitted with studs that protrude 7mm from the tyre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCDcRMTCQAAs4RT.jpg:large

[Astro83]

Tidemand VS Östberg... :)

[AP-Racing]

I think his debut with the DS3 was postponed to Mexico.

I think too, but i can't see official confirmation

[stefanvv]

I think too, but i can't see official confirmation

There is a message @OFFICIALWRC:
"A DS3 Citroen for Benito Guerra on Rally Mexico. Last years PWRC champion finally has chance to shine on his home event at the highest level"

[AP-Racing]

There is a message @OFFICIALWRC:
"A DS3 Citroen for Benito Guerra on Rally Mexico. Last years PWRC champion finally has chance to shine on his home event at the highest level"

And if i understand right, he didn't start in Sweden

[stefanvv]

And if i understand right, he didn't start in Sweden

Looks like that

[Rasantes]

Alessandro Re livery

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529003_402331199859564_1310180815_n.jpg

[Mad cat jnr]

Stunning!!

[Bartolbia84]

Federico della Casa Livery

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/582449_4797807156570_1481212391_n.jpg

[drive]

Please can someone explain to me: do the crews drive on a long road sections between ss on those studded tyres also? because some road sections are very long and that makes me wonder...

[tolis]

@Bartolbia: Anyone of Della Casa and Re is planning to do WRC 3?

[ruesluporp]

Please can someone explain to me: do the crews drive on a long road sections between ss on those studded tyres also? because some road sections are very long and that makes me wonder...

That's the rule: four tyres on the car, two spare!

[Kielder]

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397493_10151298581369091_2088412364_n.jpg

Peruvian Nicolas Fuchs has spent two days tackling the challenges of rallying on snow at Juha Kankkunen's Driving Academy in Kuusamo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AliV7e5SHoc

More videos:

Day 1: Nicolás Fuchs sobre la nieve. Día 1 - Juha Kankkunen Academy - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojn0WwfrfDs&list=UUHFyTVX5jAfWU5eR71KBkIQ&index=2)
Day 2: Nicolás Fuchs - Kankkunen Driving Academy Dia 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqpEwaalk4U)

You could say that Kankkunen is not the best to teach how to drive on snow. You'd be right, he's simply best :) .

[darkstar]

That's the rule: four tyres on the car, two spare!

you can also take only 1 spare, or has this changed?

[Bartolbia84]

@Bartolbia: Anyone of Della Casa and Re is planning to do WRC 3?

We do not currently take part in wrc3, but should be at the start of some races of the Championship.
Who would be interested in wrc-3 is Campedelli

[steffforno]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105379?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Marcus Will make a test with Mini motorsportitalia

[Antony Warmbold]

Please can someone explain to me: do the crews drive on a long road sections between ss on those studded tyres also? because some road sections are very long and that makes me wonder...

Yes, you drive with them on the long road sections. if it's on tarmac it's better not too exceed 80kph too often because the studs on hard tar will overheat easily and start moving in the rubber and glue which holds them. if you don't take proper care you may have trouble with your studs and lose them premature on the stages.

[pantealex]

you can also take only 1 spare, or has this changed?

You can take max 2 spares, so you don´t have to take any...

[Rally Hokkaido]

You can take max 2 spares, so you don´t have to take any...yes, provided the car is still above its minimum weight with no spare on board (one spare is permitted at weight checks)

[KAMV]

Yes, you drive with them on the long road sections. if it's on tarmac it's better not too exceed 80kph too often because the studs on hard tar will overheat easily and start moving in the rubber and glue which holds them. if you don't take proper care you may have trouble with your studs and lose them premature on the stages.

Last year we drove a whole time behind the blue Mini of Sandell on a roadsection up to Hagfors Sprint. Each time he had the opportunity he drove into the snow, sometimes very close to the snowbanks. Only to safe his tyres. Included a picture of his tyres at the Time Control of Hagfors sprint, so after 3 Special Stages. Thanks for the picture to Bruyneeldsen ;)
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[drive]

Last year we drove a whole time behind the blue Mini of Sandell on a roadsection up to Hagfors Sprint. Each time he had the opportunity he drove into the snow, sometimes very close to the snowbanks. Only to safe his tyres. Included a picture of his tyres at the Time Control of Hagfors sprint, so after 3 Special Stages. Thanks for the picture to Bruyneeldsen ;)
3096

thank you for sharing. Studs are in good condition, if they had 3 ss allready :)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCMGjW4CUAAobHp.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCMGjW4CUAAobHp.jpg:large

Bzzzzzz

[Salist]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCMYUNJCAAAFIa1.jpg:large

[Salist]

This is the new DMACK snow tyre with studs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCL89D7CYAAV4aG.jpg:large

Source: twitter.com @DMACK_Tyres

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice clear Rally Sweden program here (seeing as WRC.com still has no itinerary :( ... ) :

Program | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/en/program/) :)

[Salist]

Photo of Colin's Crest Arena taken today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCMdE_fCYAEghhE.jpg:large

Source: Twitter @RallyingUK

[pino]

Still too little snow on track, let's hope for more before the start ;)

[drive]

conditions looks very similar to todays' rally in Latvia, just more frost... lets hope for more snow to come! this raly has to have snow banks :)

[BleAivano]

Still too little snow on track, let's hope for more before the start ;)

some more snow is expected, perhaps not that much though:

Prognos Hagfors | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/land/hourByHourTable.do?starttime=2013-02-03+18%3a00%3a00&endtime=2013-02-12+22%3a59%3a00&geonameid=2709214&redirect=false)

[Salist]

SS11-15 Rammen

http://blogg.vf.se/motorbloggen/files/2013/02/BCL3uOOCMAA2NDZ.jpeg

Source :Twitter @RallyingUK

[Salist]

This is Värmullsåsen (SS3 and SS6)

http://blogg.vf.se/motorbloggen/files/2013/02/BCL7Q-MCYAAWQnp.jpeg

Source :Twitter @RallyingUK

[Salist]

Another photo about Rammen stage:

http://blogg.vf.se/motorbloggen/files/2013/02/BCL4ComCMAALFbR.jpeg

[Fly_Half]

We had more snow than that over here in the UK two weeks ago. Really hope it snows next week!

[hari]

Some more pictures from Shakedown etc. here:

Motorbloggen (http://blogg.vf.se/motorbloggen/)

[olemann]

Little snow in in the early stages. On the Norwegian side of the border there is snow;-)

[Micke_VOC]

This is Värmullsåsen (SS3 and SS6)

http://blogg.vf.se/motorbloggen/files/2013/02/BCL7Q-MCYAAWQnp.jpeg

Source :Twitter @RallyingUK

Have one of my best memories from Rally Sweden in the right-hander at the top of the hill.

Colin flying sideways and hitting the snowbank in the air.... =)

[Juha_Koo]

So, after many years of dreaming, I finally have an opportunity to go to foreign WRC event. Okay, it's a neighboring country but still... :) Looking forward!

One question though, is there a FM rally radio frequency in Rally Sweden like in NORF?

[Mintexmemory]

So, after many years of dreaming, I finally have an opportunity to go to foreign WRC event. Okay, it's a neighboring country but still... :) Looking forward!

One question though, is there a FM rally radio frequency in Rally Sweden like in NORF?

Have a great time, we all have to start somewhere - my first foreign WRC event was Rally Ireland (and part of that was in the UK!)

[MTA]

So, after many years of dreaming, I finally have an opportunity to go to foreign WRC event. Okay, it's a neighboring country but still... :) Looking forward!

One question though, is there a FM rally radio frequency in Rally Sweden like in NORF?

Welcome to Sweden :)
Yes there is a rally radio just as under Neste Rally.
They transmit at different frequencies depending on where you are.
Torsdag 20.00-21.00
Fredag 08.00-17.45
Lördag 08.00-16.45
Söndag 08.00-15.00
Här sänder SR Värmland i FM-nätet:
Filipstad 103,2
Hagfors 105,0
Höljes 102,6
Karlstad 103,5
Lesjöfors 92,0
Sunne 101,8
Sysslebäck 103,6
Torsby 102,6

Rallyradions sändningstider 2013 - Rally Sweden 2013 (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2505&artikel=4298658)

[logic]

I will be there on wednesday

[danon]

Hope for the same weather conditions as in the vid below...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAVYjZ0TOs

[spiderem]

I might need to change my Pickem after viewing some pictures of the current stage condition :/
any feedback on ice condition / thickness?
I guess even if it snows before the rally, it won't have time to get compacted and improve the road condition...

[J4MIE]

There is still time to send water tankers through the stages I guess.

Looks better than it did in 2008 I think, the roads anyway not the scenery....

[Salist]

Here are some photos from 2008:

2008 Shakedown (http://www.wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2008-49/uddeholm-swedish-rally-61/shakedown-641/)
2008 Shakedown (http://www.wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2008-49/uddeholm-swedish-rally-61/shakedown-626/)
2008 Shakedown (http://www.wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2008-49/uddeholm-swedish-rally-61/shakedown-611/)

[Antony Warmbold]

Last year we drove a whole time behind the blue Mini of Sandell on a roadsection up to Hagfors Sprint. Each time he had the opportunity he drove into the snow, sometimes very close to the snowbanks. Only to safe his tyres. Included a picture of his tyres at the Time Control of Hagfors sprint, so after 3 Special Stages. Thanks for the picture to Bruyneeldsen ;)
3096

We were doing the same :) it's good trick

[Hartusvuori]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/726958776.jpg?key=600450&Expires=1359972275&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=YnQcNW65-1OZ5lS0Oj6pG6RzPElqgZ-MZkv~ZVM~FuFOiX7erCmT50u20op9YRC0A23z55WVp2sZTcOL7 QBpr0b~LOO14QBOY50rB-3FY9CI2s1zGlxV16rhBJrUXUqZ~fBDVwNcJU71tUvEpUc-VhwyGufzDFDDz2pSZYphmPc_

Nice to see Marcus back in racing overalls.

#WRC Marcus Grönholm testing Mini Wrc Motorsport Italia [PHOT... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/c0t8zc)

[Iskald]

Please can someone explain to me: do the crews drive on a long road sections between ss on those studded tyres also? because some road sections are very long and that makes me wonder...

They try to organise the route so that most of the road sections is run on minor roads which often are more or less ice- or snowcovered. This is also a question of logistics and the concern of the rally not being hindered by heavy spectator traffic. For the long haul between Karlstad-Hagfors and return the teams fit studless or studded "normal" wintertyres on the cars. The 90 kms to and from Hagfors on dry tarmac would certainly ruin the competition tyres. Thats why each day starts with a 10 minute service in Hagfors before the go out to the first stage.

[Iskald]

Little snow in in the early stages. On the Norwegian side of the border there is snow;-)


Not a lot of snow in Norway either, but quite good icecover on the roads. Rally Finnskog last saturday still showed a lot of gravel coming through for the second run of stages. Tyre management will most definitely be a major point in the rally, unless it continues to snow a lot, like it does here in Oslo at the moment...

[Kielder]

ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 4h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298317004614545408)
Another pic on "Sågen" a few km before the end. OK snowbanks and much ice. Best winter-road in whole @RallySweden (https://twitter.com/RallySweden)https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCPVvDMCMAASRgA.jpg:large

The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) Julian Porter 2h (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/298347364240990208)
Finished reccing our first stage of Rally Sweden, Kirkener, snow based but not much, but very icy!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCPxWNmCIAA6zLs.jpg:large

The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) Julian Porter 2h (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/298348624159584257)
The start of Finnskogen, looks beautiful & it's snowing now, -2.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCPyfjLCMAAubsc.jpg:large

The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) Julian Porter 3m (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/298377985227108352)
Conditions mid way through @RallySweden (https://twitter.com/RallySweden) Finnskogen stage, snow & very icy. Really quick stage, it's big balls time!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCQNMlqCMAAHQle.jpg:large

[Kielder]

ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 15h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298157974222958592)
Much ice on "Fredriksberg" at the 3 smaller jumps. Very bad conditions before that place, much gravel

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCNFGQ0CcAIhhAM.jpg:largehttps://twitter.com/ezo0n ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 15h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298156495760138240)
Conditions of stage "Sågen" this weekend. Picture taken in wrong direction on the first public area.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCNDwNHCIAANJzs.jpg:large

ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 13h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298181934964695042)
At the big lake in the beginning of Fredriksberg. Very beautiful road with much ice!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCNa49iCYAAsi0o.jpg:large (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 13h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298181096695291904)
Right before area 3 on "Fredriksberg". Gravel above all ice. From area 3-4 its gravel and bumpy road.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCNaIKvCYAAT5ZZ.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/ezo0n ezo0n (https://twitter.com/ezo0n) Andreas Eriksson 13h (https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/298183095801217024)
In the middle of stage "Fredriksberg" after public area 3. Bad conditions because forestry machinery.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCNb8h_CAAInSJ3.jpg:largehttps://twitter.com/ezo0n

[Negaiss]

Vision of How will th rally Sweden unfold:
Without any champinship preasure Sebastien Loeb shows his true skill. Despite Hirvonen's faultless an fast drive his is not able to chalenge for win, wich wil be go to a winner of a king battle - Loeb vs Ogier. Loeb shows again who is te real King and wins the rally with only few seconds over Ogier. Not being able to keep up with french Superdrivers Hirvonen is comfortably faster than the rest and comes home in third position. Fast latvala boy shows good speed in a couple of stages, bet is still not comfortable in a new Polo and is a little too cautios because of Monte crash - He does not want to be a crashvala any more. Further down the field every thing takes hes own place according to true pace. Sordo comes fifth an with no any advanegous conditions and with no top driver crashing out Ostberg manages only six just because everone else in front of him is simply faster. Fast Neuville goes through a couple of small mistakes thoughout the rally, but is able to continue driving resulting in his first points in 2013 for a 7th place in Sweden. Juho Hanninen does the same - shows incredible speed in some stages but after one or two small chashes is able to come to finish in 8th. H. Solberg wants to show his speed, but is too optimistic and crash out in first day. Novikov repeats his mistakes - Drives carefully at first, bet seeing that he is able to go up the leaderbord crashes out.

[GritPics]

Really hoping for a lot of snow this week!

My first visit over to Rally Sweden and it would be awesome for it to be a proper snow rally.

[Kielder]

Tidemand is testing today in Antilla (Värmland).

[BleAivano]

Colin Clark posted a few pics on his twitter (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/298383031696236544) from the test stages some 50km north Torsby,




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1721665513/186992_720282531_2493366_n_normal.jpg Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)

Conditions on test 50kms north of Torsby look perfect! @Yazeed_AlRajhi (https://twitter.com/Yazeed_AlRajhi) @YazeedRacing (https://twitter.com/YazeedRacing)



A link (http://goo.gl/maps/RLgwX) to show how far 50km is from Torsby/Hagfors (B is NOT the testing location).


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCQRyVOCIAEdj99.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCQXhvsCYAAtmyh.jpg:large

[GritPics]

That looks pretty hopeful.

Fingers crossed for more snow slightly further South.

[Iskald]

Vision of How will th rally Sweden unfold:
Without any champinship preasure Sebastien Loeb shows his true skill. Despite Hirvonen's faultless an fast drive his is not able to chalenge for win, wich wil be go to a winner of a king battle - Loeb vs Ogier. Loeb shows again who is te real King and wins the rally with only few seconds over Ogier. Not being able to keep up with french Superdrivers Hirvonen is comfortably faster than the rest and comes home in third position. Fast latvala boy shows good speed in a couple of stages, bet is still not comfortable in a new Polo and is a little too cautios because of Monte crash - He does not want to be a crashvala any more. Further down the field every thing takes hes own place according to true pace. Sordo comes fifth an with no any advanegous conditions and with no top driver crashing out Ostberg manages only six just because everone else in front of him is simply faster. Fast Neuville goes through a couple of small mistakes thoughout the rally, but is able to continue driving resulting in his first points in 2013 for a 7th place in Sweden. Juho Hanninen does the same - shows incredible speed in some stages but after one or two small chashes is able to come to finish in 8th. H. Solberg wants to show his speed, but is too optimistic and crash out in first day. Novikov repeats his mistakes - Drives carefully at first, bet seeing that he is able to go up the leaderbord crashes out.

You`ve got a vivid phantasy! Especially the bit about Østberg, with five guys simply being faster than him...Forgotten he finished 2nd and 3rd in the two last editions of Sweden? Haven`t seen his testing videos? Haven`t noticed his progress the last year? Still five guys will be faster than him, on snow and ice??? It will give you great odds, mate, but I`m convinced you won`t win any money on it!

[stefanvv]

I also think Ostberg is too underestimated here, he has good chance for a podium and I think top 4 for him is easy job

[satukata]

Webcams shows that there is more snow today in karlstad and hagfors area and more is comeing
Prognos Hagfors | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/land/fiveDaysForecast.do?geonameid=2709214&redirect=false)

even big road E45 very south near karlstad is snowy today
Wetter und Webcam Grums / Gemeinde Grums / Vrmland / Schweden - Blick auf die E45 (Nyngsrondellen) (http://www.webcams-schweden.de/html/Grums.php)

Much snow in Fredriksberg
Wetter und Webcam Fredriksberg - Sfsen Resort / Gemeinde Ludvika / Dalarna / Schweden - Blick auf den Minigolfplatz im Sfsen Resort (http://www.webcams-schweden.de/html/Fredriksberg-Safsen-Resort.php)

[robee1328]

:cool:

[ben007]

I need your help :

Is somebody can locate fast jumps into SS Fredriksberg ?

Thank's ;)

[Astro83]

Ben:

Right in the middle of the stage... In map you will see a mark that shows "parking" before the last public area before the finish of the stage... Really nice!

[Astro83]

You will park on a access road that will come out on the stage after the straigth with the jumps in a fast left/right corner who goes up over a long crest! Go right when you come out on the stage!!
You will need to walk for a few hundred meters and you can choose one of the jumps! ;) I will absolutly be there, like in finland! :P

[GritPics]

You will park on a access road that will come out on the stage after the straigth with the jumps in a fast left/right corner who goes up over a long crest! Go right when you come out on the stage!!
You will need to walk for a few hundred meters and you can choose one of the jumps! ;) I will absolutly be there, like in finland! :P

Could you supply a google maps link to this spot please, it is our first time coming over to Rally Sweden and any advice or tips on where is best to go is much appreciated.

It's been a dream to do Rally Sweden for a long time and can't wait now!

[ruesluporp]

You will park on a access road that will come out on the stage after the straigth with the jumps in a fast left/right corner who goes up over a long crest! Go right when you come out on the stage!!
You will need to walk for a few hundred meters and you can choose one of the jumps! ;) I will absolutly be there, like in finland! :P

I cannot figure where are the jumps? Could you please tell us between which numbers? Will have to come from north or south? Thanks.
SS 10 Fredriksberg 1 | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/program/ss-10-fredriksberg-1/)

[Koceens]

Jumps are around here: Unknown road - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/33kCv)

You can come both from south and north.

[Rallyper]

I cannot figure where are the jumps? Could you please tell us between which numbers? Will have to come from north or south? Thanks.
SS 10 Fredriksberg 1 | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/program/ss-10-fredriksberg-1/)

Jumps are at access #4.

[Coach 2]

Jumps are at access #4.

Yes. RS2013_Webbkartor_SS10-14 | Rally Sweden 2013 (http://www.rallysweden.com/program/ss-10-fredriksberg-1/rs2013_webbkartor_ss10-14/)

[Astro83]

Spot on Koceens, and like rallyper and coach 2 shows/says!

[satukata]

Spot on Koceens, and like rallyper and coach 2 shows/says!

Any videos Fredriksberg area 4?

[SubaruNorway]

Any videos Fredriksberg area 4?

My video from last year. The other little jump and crest into a right hander is not run on Finnskogen stage this year.

Best Of Swedish Rally 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_2I6PG_qE8)

[pino]

Great video mate, make sure you will do the same this year thanks ;)

[satukata]

My video from last year. The other little jump and crest into a right hander is not run on Finnskogen stage this year.

Best Of Swedish Rally 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_2I6PG_qE8)

Great video. fredriksbergs jump is in time 0.41?

Where are these places in your videos time 1.06 and 1.44. and 0.47?

[SubaruNorway]

Great video. fredriksbergs jump is in time 0.41?

Where are these places in your videos time 1.06 and 1.44. and 0.47?

41 yeah.

Just copied a reply i made to someone else, all your requested places should be there.

47s is final corner of Mitanderfors.
1:40s is not used this year. It's on Finnskogen but they made the junction right 1km sooner this year. It's after the long middle section.
3:03 is 1-1.5km after the first junction on Lesjöfors. Where Henning jumped and landed on his side in 2011 i think.
4:20 is about 1.5 km before SP 1 at Rämmen, you can see the lake on the map.

[SubaruNorway]

Great video mate, make sure you will do the same this year thanks ;)

Thanks! No pressure ;)

[tobbe3]

41 yeah.

Just copied a reply i made to someone else, all your requested places should be there.

47s is final corner of Mitanderfors.
1:40s is not used this year. It's on Finnskogen but they made the junction right 1km sooner this year. It's after the long middle section.
3:03 is 1-1.5km after the first junction on Lesjöfors. Where Henning jumped and landed on his side in 2011 i think.
4:20 is about 1.5 km before SP 1 at Rämmen, you can see the lake on the map.

I´m thinking about the turn at 4:20 on Rämmen.
Was it hard to get there? Did you walk from SP1 or is there any other roads?

[SubaruNorway]

I´m thinking about the turn at 4:20 on Rämmen.
Was it hard to get there? Did you walk from SP1 or is there any other roads?

Not hard you just have to walk a bit, 2km at the max. Walked down from SP1 roadside parking.

[tobbe3]

Not hard you just have to walk a bit, 2km at the max. Walked down from SP1 roadside parking.

Thanks!

[Rallyper]

Not hard you just have to walk a bit, 2km at the max. Walked down from SP1 roadside parking.

I would say it´s shorter walking from SP2 against the route. Only a couple of hundred meters...I reccon.

[tobbe3]

I would say it´s shorter walking from SP2 against the route. Only a couple of hundred meters...I reccon.

Isn´t that in the wrong direction? SubaruNorway wrote that it was 1,5 km BEFORE SP1, or is it me who have got it wrong?

[Rasantes]

Photo of Julian Porter of this area as Colin's Crest Arena at this time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCR4G3lCUAEF206.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCQ8bzGCMAA-49T.jpg:large

[pino]

Thanks! No pressure ;)

No pressure offcourse but could you please try to make a similar great video again ? :D

[Fly_Half]

Can anyone recommend a good location in Finnskogen? I can't seem to find any in-car footage on the web! I had a message from someone telling me there is a jump in there where Steve Rokland rolled last year?

[SubaruNorway]

Isn´t that in the wrong direction? SubaruNorway wrote that it was 1,5 km BEFORE SP1, or is it me who have got it wrong?


You got it right, Rallyper got it wrong ;) There is a gray road on the map coming from SP2 though but I'm pretty sure that's not open, would get you 200m before the spot if it was.

Does anybody know if this road from Sunnemo towards Lesjöfors is open? It would save me some time going from Höje where i live to Lesjöfors.

https://maps.google.no/maps?saddr=Ukjent+vei&daddr=Ukjent+vei&hl=no&ie=UTF8&ll=59.91132,13.839684&spn=0.11601,0.362206&sll=59.916225,13.974609&sspn=0.057996,0.181103&geocode=FU9nkgMd2UHVAA%3BFYnDkQMdZHjRAA&oq=sandsj%C3%B6h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=13&t=h&z=12

[Doon]

Anyone been on the rally bus before? It say which stages it visits but not which carpark. Are there multiple busses that you can use to get between stages? First Rally Sweden, cant wait :) Just hope the snow holds out and the bird enjoys her first 'proper' rally!

[SubaruNorway]

Can anyone recommend a good location in Finnskogen? I can't seem to find any in-car footage on the web! I had a message from someone telling me there is a jump in there where Steve Rokland rolled last year?

Not sure if they run the jump this year, it was less than 1km after SP2 but the stage has a junction right somewhere there now, i have a very vague memory of a junction after the jump so maybe it's still in. The jump has a lot of bounce to it and a 2 right 70m after it so not sure how good it really is, haven't seen any video or pics from it.

[Fly_Half]

Thanks Tor, the oracle of WRC Sweden!

[ben007]

Thank's for information about Fredriksberg, have a good Sweden rally for all fans !!!!

[Delta_HF]

Really looking forward to this rally, shame about tv coverage here in the UK, just have to make do with YouTube. ;)

[SubaruNorway]

Can anyone recommend a good location in Finnskogen? I can't seem to find any in-car footage on the web! I had a message from someone telling me there is a jump in there where Steve Rokland rolled last year?

Found the jump in the first clip, not that big as you can see.
Svenska rallyt, mads.m4v - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwTMIz53rDM)