Cyprus Rally 2012

[makinen_fan]

I did not like it when I heard it, but according to some sources from Cyprus (they are involved in organisation side) the rally this year is cancelled due to financial trouble, but nothing official yet

[PLuto]

Yes, they have financial problem. About cancelling is talking for few weeks, but nothing official yet.

[werner]

I dont think that Cyprus will be cancelled, but if they think about, entry close of San Remo is Monday, 1st of October! I am sure some crews who planned Cyprus, but not San Remo, could change.

[PLuto]

Some news about Cyprus - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14398)

[makinen_fan]

Some more news from a Cypriot news website, hope Google can translate it fine from Greek. I think thats the source for the previous link posted

http://www.pafosnet.com/?p=14912

[PLuto]

Yes, this article is one of the sources...

[werner]

In that case, IRC Organisation should find a solution very very soon.

[tolis]

According to a cypriot website, the rally will take place. It says that Eurosport and the Association of Cyprus found a solution.

Βάση προγράμματος και χωρίς κανένα πρόβλημα θα διεξαχθεί τελικά το Ράλλυ Κύπρος 2012, αγώνας με τον οποίο, θα πέσει και φέτος η αυλαία του πρωταθλήματος IRC 2012. Σύμφωνα με αποκλειστικές πληροφορίες του 'automedia.com.cy', Κυπριακή κυβέρνηση, Eurosport και Κυπριακός Σύνδεσμος Αυτοκινήτου, έχουν από κοινού βρει την χρυσή τομή, για την ομαλή διεξαγωγή του εθνικού μας αγώνα, δίνοντας έτσι τέλος στα σενάρια ακύρωσης του.

[makinen_fan]

Really good news at least at the final moment

[PLuto]

Yes, cyprian government doesnt want to have big shame of their name, so they put more money from government account...

[PLuto]

Regulations to Cyprus Rally is available - Autosport : IRC - Cyprus Rally (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=1029)

[shaperzrally]

No live coverage from Cyprus tihs year... Big shame because it was pretty good and almost traditional at the end of the year. :(

[tolis]

Young talent from Cyprus, Panikos Polykarpou (http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=13036&t=Panikos-Polykarpou) will do the rally in a Citroen DS3 R3 from Austria.

[AP-Racing]

19 year old Vasily Gryazin (son of russian rally champion 2001 Stanislav Gryazin) starting on Cyprus on Fiesta S2000 (ex Prokop car)

[Mirek]

From various signs I have a feeling Škoda crews will start in the season finale after all. No confirmation though...

[PLuto]

Skoda Motorsport will not start in Cyprus. I think only Andy and Sepp.

[nr7wave]

Skoda Motorsport will not start in Cyprus. I think only Andy and Sepp.

Mikkelsen will be there, according to this Twitter statement:

"@AMikkelsenRally: Next target is to take my second drivers' title in @IRCRally at #CyprusRally on mixed surface ... http://t.co/Q20AK1k0"
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[PLuto]

Yes, Mikkelsen has this rally in his plans since beginning.

[bluuford]

Nasser will be there as well :-)

[tolis]

37 Entries, 10 S2000: http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/list-of-entries.pdf

[mousti]

Armin Kremer, nice to see him back

[dimviii]

Nikara with TMR R4 nice!

[werner]

Consani with Clio R3 ... so he dont fight for PC! His only chance to be PC Champion is, if Aigner retire and Tempestini dont be 1st or 2nd.

Anyway a nice entry list, but if you watch entry fee (2.300 Euro enter before 8th of October, 4.600 until entry closes past friday), its no surprise that there are only 37 crews.

[mousti]

Mégane has no gravel suspension if I'm right..

[dimviii]

Mégane has no gravel suspension if I'm right..
he is entered with clio

[pucky54]

Mégane has no gravel suspension if I'm right..

right, unfortunately no other chance for him

[Mirek]

Mégane has no gravel suspension if I'm right..

The problem is in the Renault Performance Hub front suspension. It's something similar to Ford RevoKnuckle which means a advanced McPherson strut with independent steering. It's good thing but it's big and can't fit inside small gravel wheels.

http://media.caspianpublishing.co.uk/image/34129813996e9982ad6627c6aa286b13.jpg/crop:614x300:78:100

[Sulland]

How big are the asfalt wheels on the Megane?

[pucky54]

How big are the asfalt wheels on the Megane?

18 inch

[Mirek]

Same as in all N4 cars - 8x18" rims.

[vino_93]

this is not the seeded entry list I suppose ?

[Leon]

no

[dimviii]

How big are the asfalt wheels on the Megane?
same as wrc and grN evosubis. 18x8 rim with 235-40-18 tyre

[tolis]

Vasily Gryazin testing for Cyprus

TESTING FOR IRC CYPRUS RALLY 2012 GRYAZIN, Vasily - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDn18fpw5jY)

[Sulland]

same as wrc and grN evosubis. 18x8 rim with 235-40-18 tyre

But is the largest gravelwheels 15 it will of course be a challenge getting them bolted on. To bad really.

[tolis]

Young talent from Cyprus, Panikos Polykarpou (http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=13036&t=Panikos-Polykarpou) will do the rally in a Citroen DS3 R3 from Austria.

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302802_4715149278777_1902764290_n.jpg

[makinen_fan]

The itinerary for the event has changed, Sunday stages will be on Saturday and vise versa:

Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftaxitita.com%2Findex.php%3Fp%3Dread er%26artid%3D381)

[tolis]

Half entry list with start numbers

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374846_372532922831476_1900829534_n.jpg


Neither Roger Feghali nor Georgiou will start. Their cars won't arrive on time.

[tolis]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270504_481959735182828_1401804037_n.jpg

[rikdegraaff]

Nice cars!
I've never seen them like that ;)

[Mirek]

Those starting numbers... ojojoj that's really bad seeding again :(

[rikdegraaff]

One question: How can you come so close at the cars?
I mean, most of the time you cannot get there, like backstage at a concert.

[Mirek]

Why not? It's rallying not F1.

[rikdegraaff]

Oh okay.
I'm very new in the Motorsports section, so I did not know that.
But thank you for your answer!!

[makinen_fan]

Not sure but the pic should not be from service park anyway.

Seeded entry list better quality:
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/525609_377623815652334_169886395_n.jpg

[EightGear]

One question: How can you come so close at the cars?
I mean, most of the time you cannot get there, like backstage at a concert.

Well you won't get into garages like on that photo very quicky indeed, but during a rally you can watch them very closely in the service park.

[pettersolberg29]

Sorry for my ignorance, but any information on the number 2 driver? I don't follow much Middle East rallying so have never come across him before. Just thinking with my Mikkelsen-supporting cap on and wondering if there will be a problem with dust/catching him up or if his 2nd seeding is justified?

[tolis]

Sorry for my ignorance, but any information on the number 2 driver? I don't follow much Middle East rallying so have never come across him before. Just thinking with my Mikkelsen-supporting cap on and wondering if there will be a problem with dust/catching him up or if his 2nd seeding is justified?

He is 2010 MERC champion, without winning any event though!
eWRC-results.com - profile Misfer Al-Marri (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2156&t=Misfer-Al-Marri)

[pettersolberg29]

I see he used to be co-driven by Chris Patterson? Interesting little tidbit.

Any opinion on his speed relative to Mikkelsen? Over 20km I guess there will be no problem?

[tolis]

I see he used to be co-driven by Chris Patterson? Interesting little tidbit.

Any opinion on his speed relative to Mikkelsen? Over 20km I guess there will be no problem?

Note also that it's his first appearance in a Mini JCW. Maybe not a problem, but don't be so sure.

[makinen_fan]

Some photos from yesterday during testing


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_0894.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_0871.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_0936.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_0938.JPG

[Leon]

thanks for the photos

[rikdegraaff]

Wow, nice photo's.
The Qatar-rally team has a nice car.
With some nice colors!

But from which team come the Mini's?

EDIT: Also Qatar Mini's?

[PLuto]

Both Minis are from Tok Sport from Turkey.

[rikdegraaff]

Okay, thanks for the information PLuto!!

[pettersolberg29]

The itinerary has been changed, with Saturday's stages moving to Sunday and vice versa. To avoid a hunting zone apparently.

[rallyfiend]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270504_481959735182828_1401804037_n.jpg

Has the Ford badge been removed from Nasser's car?

[Kielder]

The itinerary has been changed, with Saturday's stages moving to Sunday and vice versa. To avoid a hunting zone apparently.

Has Nasser been reported about the hunting? :p

http://i47.tinypic.com/2jg54w6.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Some more photos:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1059.JPG

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1103.JPG

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1039.JPG

[CWJ]

Some more photos:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1103.JPG


No names on it? Some change?

[PLuto]

It is preparation before rally, still lot of time to add names ;)

[makinen_fan]

Andreas interview with Cypriot media. Also partial confirmation that he continues with VW and Polo in 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbTtsfMXvS4&list=ULkbTtsfMXvS4

[PLuto]

This is not new, he will be third driver at VW next year. First events with Skoda, then he will switch for Polo.

[EightGear]

Interesting he says the original plan was to not do Spain next week. Maybe Abbring would go there at first? And now VW want to let him get as much WRC experience as possible?

[werner]

Yes, Andreas is doing Spain, and first two rounds WRC 2013 with Skoda. But that is not confirmed as I know. Portugal is his first VW Polo outing.

[tolis]

Yes, Andreas is doing Spain, and first two rounds WRC 2013 with Skoda. But that is not confirmed as I know. Portugal is his first VW Polo outing.
So, no ERC for Andreas next year I suppose...

[Mirek]

Sure

[rikdegraaff]

I have two questions for you all:

When is the Cyprus Rally 2012?
And as a Dutchman, how can I watch the rally?

Greetings from a cold Holland,

Rik

[stefanvv]

I have two questions for you all:

When is the Cyprus Rally 2012?
And as a Dutchman, how can I watch the rally?

Greetings from a cold Holland,

Rik

I believe it is this weekend, you can watch Eurosport coverages (possibly some live stages, it was used to be previous years), check their schedule.

[werner]

I dont think there will be live coverage after the money problems from Organizer ...

[rikdegraaff]

Okay, thank you both for the clear answers!
I appreciate that.

-- Rik

[mousti]

No golden stage either I thought..

[pucky54]

No golden stage either I thought..

The "Golden Stage"-stage is part of the rally now

[tolis]

Okay, thank you both for the clear answers!
Itinerary (Greek times) here.
Day 1: http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Leg-1.pdf
Day 2: http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Leg-2.pdf

You can follow the rally results here: Cyprus Rally 2012 - Results - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://irc-results.com/2012/cyprus-rally-2012/)
Highlights will be on TV the following times: TV Coverage - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/tv_coverage/country)

[tolis]

Vitaliy Pushkar

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/530948_515703288442007_30785797_n.jpg

[rikdegraaff]

Thanks for your message, tolis!
I gonna follow it ;)

EDIT: Also a nice photo!!

[dimviii]

service park at Paphos
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6oRwAiCQAA4rO0.jpg

[PLuto]

In IRC results will not be included both Mini drivers. If you want to see full results, it will be here - Cyprus Rally 2012 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/cyprus-rally-2012/)

[makinen_fan]

Colin Clark interview with AndreasAndreas Mikkels | Spreaker Online Radio (http://www.spreaker.com/user/5030467/andreas_mikkels)

[tolis]

Vasiliy Gryazin: Rally Cyprus. The second day of recce. Vasily: "It was a big day. At first we drove about 70 km, felt tired and exhausted! Today’s special stages turned out to be very difficult. Yesterday I said that while passing stages we had cliff on the left and steeper on the right, but it appears today! The road is very dangerous and difficult. There are a lot of turns and operating step is first. Stages today are also “illogical”, so I was very surprised.
After the recce we were invited to have tests with Skoda Motorsport team and liked them very much".

[Mirek]

They have plenty of unsold cars... they try to sell what they can before the R5 comes. The prices are going down every week. Now You can by used works car for 150 thousand Euro...

[makinen_fan]

Testing before rally today for Mikkelsen.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1262.JPG



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1220.JPG

Colin Clark was there too. I find it strange since wrc radio has nothing to do with this event. Does he jumped ship again to other website/radio?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14818594/IRC-Cyprus/DSC_1229.JPG

[tolis]

He went to several IRC rallies this year also.

[EightGear]

He seems to love Andreas so seeing him being crowned double IRC champion will do Colin good.

[fegh]

Unfortunately, due to technical problems that delayed the ship transporting their cars to cyprus, Roger Feghali and Nicholai Georgiou wont be able to start the rally

[Mirek]

That's a shame :(

[tolis]

Press conference is underway...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18610_10151328032531551_1863757666_n.jpg

[makinen_fan]

rally Cyprus press conference | Spreaker Online Radio (http://www.spreaker.com/user/5030467/rally_cyprus_press_conference?autoplay=1)

Colin Clark live broadcast of press conference. Nice effort from him!

[tolis]

34 starters...no Feghali, Georgiou, Timotheou, Loucaides.

[makinen_fan]

The rally is now live. Results here:

Cyprus Rally 2012 - Time table - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/cyprus-rally-2012/time-table/)

[Mirek]

Is the rally running ok? Stage should have started 40 minutes a go, there are now only two times and no other coming...

[makinen_fan]

Chaos in Cyprus. Huge crowd on SS1, 2 cars through, then triple zero car to assess crowd situation. Come on - Andreas wants to go to bed!

by Skoda twitter.

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550194_10151328218411551_1687292115_n.jpg





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[runde]

There is so many spectators and most of them in dangerous places. 0-cars are driving stage but I think soon it will be cancelled... Not so good start for the rally.

[makinen_fan]

Yes same thing happened in Super Stage in Limassol when WRC version was running. Way too many spectators everywhere. Organisation is very bad for so many spectators. Works for normal stages but not for street stages...

[Mirek]

Thank You both

[dimviii]

Stage interrupted due to problems with spectators. from rally-base

[bluuford]

Well, some theory before the real rally starts. Points on the last round will be doubled. That means, M-Sport should get at least 55 points to overtake Peugeot and get 2-nd place in IRC. That means 2nd and 5th place is sufficient for them (that makes 56 points for them). Should be an easy task. Mini, Citroen and Mitsubishi does not score points in IRC, that means only 16 cars can score IRC manufacturer points in this rally, four of them are scoring for M-sport.

[Karbonyl]

Same (or maybe even easier) for Subaru to pass Renault and take the overall 4th!

[makinen_fan]

Rally start again, Mikelsen fastest so far

[werner]

Mikkelsen should win, its the last race with Ola ...

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen should win, its the last race with Ola ...

why? who will replace?

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen will have big problem with Al Marri ahead of him as it seems...

[dimviii]

Come on Jarkko...

[dimviii]

times stuck again?

[dimviii]

Come on Jarkko...

Nice!

[Rasantes]

SS 1 - Super Special Stage 1
SS length: 3.20 km

1º Mikkelsen A. / Floene Ola(Škoda Fabia S2000)
2º Nikara Jarkko / Kalliolepo J.(Subaru Impreza R4) +4.4 seg.
3º Al-Attiyah N. / Bernacchini G.(Ford Fiesta RRC) +5.7 seg.
4º Arai Toshihiro / Moscatt Dale(Subaru Impreza R4) +5.7 seg.
5º Wiegand Sepp / Gottschalk Timo(Škoda Fabia S2000) +6.7 seg.

[werner]

Well, some theory before the real rally starts. Points on the last round will be doubled. That means, M-Sport should get at least 55 points to overtake Peugeot and get 2-nd place in IRC. That means 2nd and 5th place is sufficient for them (that makes 56 points for them). Should be an easy task. Mini, Citroen and Mitsubishi does not score points in IRC, that means only 16 cars can score IRC manufacturer points in this rally, four of them are scoring for M-sport.

It seems its not so easy to do that points for M-Sport ... OK, Rally begins tomorrow morning.

[rallye-vid]

who will replace?

Mikko Markkula will be the new Co for Mikkelsen

[tolis]

http://www.mediaspeed.com.cy/cyprus-rally-2012-start-%CF%81%CE%AC%CE%BB%CE%B9-%CE%BA%CF%8D%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%82-%CE%B4%CF%8C%CE%B8%CE%B7%CE%BA%CE%B5-%CE%B7-%CE%B5%CE%BA%CE%BA%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7

[tolis]

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/12792_507730325912892_475986231_n.jpg

[Rally Hokkaido]

Nice time by Nasser in SS2. Andreas puncture? This is the rough stage, isn't it? Very low average speed.

[Mirek]

Mikko Markkula will be the new Co for Mikkelsen

I don't understand why...

[Mirek]

Nice time by Nasser in SS2. Andreas puncture? This is the rough stage, isn't it? Very low average speed.

They changed the tyre after ten kilometers.

[VFTS]

I don't understand why...

Neither do I...

[werner]

1:59 loosing with tyre change is not so bad.... but now I miss No 14? Arai has finished ?

[dimviii]

I don't understand why...
Not a contract at 2013 for Juho?

[makinen_fan]

Arai finishes as well. Should be relatively easy for Nasser now if he does not into troubles. The fiesta rrc cars seem to be a class of their own here. Is this dew to the low speed and twisty nature of stages?

Also you can follow live the position of cars using google earth
tracking.sporttraxx.com/races/cyprus-2012/

[werner]

@mäkinen_fan ... thanks for the link! Great feature!

But ... now I can see that 14 Aigner stopped in the stage and dont continue. PC Win on silver tablet is gone ... :-(

[dimviii]

from Colins twitter
Mikkelsen SS3 "Puncture last stage, no oil in suspension in this one, car is f******d. Could be worse, could have been power steering"

[dimviii]

(6 - Al Rajhi Yazeed / Orr Michael): accident - rolled, crew OK

[werner]

Production Cup: Consani is champion, IF Pushkar NOT win, and Tempestini is not 1st or 2nd. I think that is possible.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen with big concerns about getting through SS4 with suspension damage

[werner]

Arai stopped in stage 3 ...

Edit: continue!

[Jeppe]

...and where is Jarkko?

[werner]

...and where is Jarkko?

Time is missing after stage 3. I am quite sure he is in the race without problems.

2WD: Consani 1 min faster as Hunt in stage 3 ...

[Sulland]

Are any of the Fiestas 1600T ?

[Mirek]

Nikara 9:04,8 :)


Are any of the Fiestas 1600T ?

All except the one of Gryazin.

[Sulland]

All except the one of Gryazin.

Thx Mirek, info should be in the startlist for us "simple" fans !

[Mirek]

Thx Mirek, info should be in the startlist for us "simple" fans !

It's difficult. Even those who make the list can't know if they didn't see the car (if they even can recognize it by look) or if they didn't have information from the crew etc.

[dimviii]

from Colins twitter

Wiegand with a spin in SS4, lost a lot of time reversing back and forwards, finding it very difficult

Andreas - rear left damper, having to brake over every bump, SO difficult to drive! 18sec quicker than Nasser

Nasser with broken front drive shaft and alternator problems through SS4

[Karbonyl]

It's difficult. Even those who make the list can't know if they didn't see the car (if they even can recognize it by look) or if they didn't have information from the crew etc.Agree. Problem is, that both 2.0 and 1.6T Fiestas are officialy named and homologated as Ford Fiesta S2000. So it's hard to recognize the specification when the organizer recieves entry form with such universal name.

[bluuford]

Consani retired, so he is going to loose 2WD title (Most probably) Production title is still in reach. Subaru is close to taking fourth from renault. Currently only two points missing.

[Wim_Impreza]

Can someone say me if Nicky Beech, co-driver of #8 Khalid Al-Suwaidi, has the British or the Irish nationality? On most sources he seems to have the British nationality, but on rally-base.com he has the Irish nationality. Thanks in advance.

I hope Nikara can find more sponsors, so that he can do more international rallies next year. He is a real talent it seems.

[Kielder]

https://twitter.com/OrrMichael
"Not a good parking place today... 40m down the mountain"

http://i47.tinypic.com/34pynp5.jpg

View from the stage:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2820q51.jpg

Great that the're OK.

[OldF]

There was news 18.10 on MTV3 web site that by Autosport Skoda will reduce its international activities next year and concentrate on developing the R5. Skoda hasn’t made any contracts with any driver. Skoda hasn’t confirmed the news but by Autosport Skoda will do only few rallies next year.

Hänninen told Autosport that he don’t know what’s going to happen next year,

Any more info about this Mirek?

[Mirek]

I think in the moment they already signed some kind of contract with Esapekka Lappi to drive ERC ;)

But otherwise I don't expect them to do more than few events as You said. They are aware of Fabia becoming obsolete against Fiesta RRC and coming R5 will outpace it probably even more.

[VFTS]

There was news 18.10 on MTV3 web site that by Autosport Skoda will reduce its international activities next year and concentrate on developing the R5. Skoda hasn’t made any contracts with any driver. Skoda hasn’t confirmed the news but by Autosport Skoda will do only few rallies next year.

Hänninen told Autosport that he don’t know what’s going to happen next year,

Any more info about this Mirek?

Lappi has signed contract, he will develop the Fabia R5

[Mirek]

I think the main development driver will be still Jan Kopecký ;)

[Mirek]

Safety on city stage...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS0xrjakYCk

[OldF]

Thanks Mirek,

Wasn’t the new Fabia to be unveiled 2014? No R5 Fabia in 2013. I also read about the platform the VAG group is using and if the current Fabia is based on that one, they could do some of the development of the R5 with the current Fabia.

[Mirek]

I'm pretty sure they will use current S2000 bodyshell to test R5 before they are allowed to use new one by higher management (after the desing of third generation is shown public).

[bluuford]

I hope that the zero cars didnt ran out of fuel..

[Mirek]

One point. How come the R4 are so much off the pace this year? Around 2-3 s/km is huge. I remember when some Czech fans in 2010 complained that Roman Kresta is too slow on Cyprus being average 1,9 s/km behind Nasser in Fiesta S2000 (still won N4). That was with ordinary N4 car and changing tyres from Michelin to Hankook for some comparison. Is there some explanation?

[Hartusvuori]

Mikkelsen fastest on SS4, average speed 60,72 km/h. That's not much. Nikara wrote in his FB earlier this week how there are some stages he must try and do on "safe mode" to preserve the car. Ruts from previous years are still on the roads.

[bluuford]

One point. How come the R4 are so much off the pace this year? Around 2-3 s/km is huge. I remember when some Czech fans in 2010 complained that Roman Kresta is too slow on Cyprus being average 1,9 s/km behind Nasser in Fiesta S2000 (still won N4). That was with ordinary N4 car and changing tyres from Michelin to Hankook for some comparison. Is there some explanation?

Maybe the roads are rougher and R4 Subarus must be much more careful to stay in one piece?

[pucky54]

Safety on city stage...

What safety are you talking about? I guess you mean the non-existing safety ;)

[werner]

Gryazin and Wiegand with problems on stage 7??

[tolis]

It seems that Mikkelsen was stucked in Al-Marri's dust

[bluuford]

It seems that Mikkelsen was stucked in Al-Marri's dust

No, he was pushing too much over the limit again and got the puncture. Nasser is really hard to beat here in Dakar kind of event.

[dimviii]

One point. How come the R4 are so much off the pace this year? Around 2-3 s/km is huge. I remember when some Czech fans in 2010 complained that Roman Kresta is too slow on Cyprus being average 1,9 s/km behind Nasser in Fiesta S2000 (still won N4). That was with ordinary N4 car and changing tyres from Michelin to Hankook for some comparison. Is there some explanation?

Nikara is not pushing,see his times vs Arai..

[tolis]

No, he was pushing too much over the limit again and got the puncture. Nasser is really hard to beat here in Dakar kind of event.
I am talking about SS7. Puncture again in SS7?

[bluuford]

I am talking about SS7. Puncture again in SS7?

Yep. front left, 7km before the end

[werner]

If we believe the GPS tracking, Nikara is in dust of Tempestini ... if Wiegand and Gryazin retired, Nikara is fighting for 3rd overall.

[tolis]

Nikara loosing too much behind Tempestini, or not?

[VFTS]

Mikkelsen was 16sec faster than Nasser at 14km, so he could have gained a lot of seconds if he hadnt got the puncture.

[dimviii]

(4 - Wiegand Sepp / Gottschalk Timo): technical problem - steering in SS 7

[dimviii]

Why Nikara lost 5 minutes to Arai?

[dimviii]

Why Nikara lost 5 minutes to Arai?
Nikara's through, stopped to change puncture and then was caught behind Tempestini.

[bluuford]

Mikkelsen was 16sec faster than Nasser at 14km, so he could have gained a lot of seconds if he hadnt got the puncture.
That is the problem with younger drivers.. If you start to push in Cyprus then it will not end well. Mikkelsen is faster than Nasser nearly everywhere but it is much harder in here (Nasser knows better how to be fastest by the end of day in here).

anyway.. there is superally in Cyprus?

[werner]

anyway.. there is superally in Cyprus?

I think yes, but not possible to score IRC points.
Aigner restart tomorrow.

[Sulland]

If we believe the GPS tracking, Nikara is in dust of Tempestini ... if Wiegand and Gryazin retired, Nikara is fighting for 3rd overall.

Where do we find GPS tracking?

[rp]

Where do we find GPS tracking?

Google Earth &
tracking.sporttraxx.com/races/cyprus-2012/

[dimviii]

I think yes, but not possible to score IRC points.
Aigner restart tomorrow.

are you sure?

Providing the damage is not too excessive, they will restart on day two when they can score points by reaching the finish on Pafos on Sunday afternoon.
“We never know what can happen,” said Klinger. “We don’t want something to happen to Harry [Hunt] but if we didn’t restart and there were some problems with his car… We have to restart to see what happens.”

News - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/news)

[werner]

are you sure?

Providing the damage is not too excessive, they will restart on day two when they can score points by reaching the finish on Pafos on Sunday afternoon.
“We never know what can happen,” said Klinger. “We don’t want something to happen to Harry [Hunt] but if we didn’t restart and there were some problems with his car… We have to restart to see what happens.”

News - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/news)

I am quite sure no points. There is no system to get penalty for each missed stage, so if a crew restart, he is in no overall classification.
Anyway, I didnt found a rule which says they get points (or not) if restart after retirement.

[Humber]

It was reported that Nikara was ill during the rally. Bit of tough luck. Hopefully he gets the opportunities to show his true abilities in good car that is well backed.

[Mirek]

I am quite sure no points. There is no system to get penalty for each missed stage, so if a crew restart, he is in no overall classification.
Anyway, I didnt found a rule which says they get points (or not) if restart after retirement.

In the IRC it is up to the event organizers whether they allow superally or not. I'm too lazy to read supplementary regulations now but You can sure find the answer there. If MERC is same with ERC than there is no superally for it. Just You can fight for bonus leg position points.

By the way Nasser said that he used WRC Michelin tyres which are slightly slower but more durable.

[Hartusvuori]

It was reported that Nikara was ill during the rally. Bit of tough luck. Hopefully he gets the opportunities to show his true abilities in good car that is well backed.

Yes, headache, throwing up - he wrote in his FB. Tough day for him. Glad his still going.

[werner]

Cyprus Rally is Rally2, thats in the regulation. But the question was, if IRC points or not.

[Mirek]

Than yes, IRC points.

[werner]

But there is no overall classification? I am little bit confused. Aigner said in press release, they cannot score points if restart, same as Sibiu. But, I have no IRC regulation, maybe there are more details.

[Mirek]

As I said this point is not part of IRC regulations. It is up to the event organizers. Most of the IRC events are without points in case of restart but during every season there was one or two events where such scoring was possible.

[dimviii]

photos
Cyprus Rally 2012 Official WebsiteAlbum 1 « Gallery 6 « » Gallery (http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/2012/gallery/?album=1&gallery=6)

[Mirek]

Adventures of Toshi Arai :)
IRC CYPRUS OUT OF THE ROAD FOR ARAI IN SS3 - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/46/id/648)

[stefanvv]

Adventures of Toshi Arai :)
IRC CYPRUS OUT OF THE ROAD FOR ARAI IN SS3 - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/46/id/648)

The good old fashioned Rally spirit :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

Adventures of Toshi Arai :)
IRC CYPRUS OUT OF THE ROAD FOR ARAI IN SS3 - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/46/id/648)
Stones? I thought that the one rock (about the size of Ayers Rock!) would be impossible for Dale. He's obviously been training at the gym a lot!

[bluuford]

Regulations say that there is normal rally 2 in Cyprus (superally). There is no differece made between IRC and the others.That should mean, every entrant under rally 2 can still score IRC points.

[darkstar]

this might become a close fight between al attyah and mikkelsen!

[Robbied]

IRC uses FIA regional regulations. For 2012, championship points cannot be scored for Rally2 competitors.

So even if the event regulations allow re-start (which many do), there is no method of scoring for the missed stages and no way to slot back into general classification, as has been stated.

So, events could allow a retired competitor to re-start, but they cant just handout championship points agains the FIA regional regs.

[werner]

Stage 10, Nasser and Mikkelsen are from another world I think. If they continue this speed, Mikkelsen will loose the victory by 10 seconds.

Aigner shows his possibility and make good stage times for PC.

[werner]

IRC uses FIA regional regulations. For 2012, championship points cannot be scored for Rally2 competitors.

So even if the event regulations allow re-start (which many do), there is no method of scoring for the missed stages and no way to slot back into general classification, as has been stated.

So, events could allow a retired competitor to re-start, but they cant just handout championship points agains the FIA regional regs.

Thats what I mean, Rall2 Yes, scoring points No. But ... crews who retired got 5 minutes penalty for each missing stage, so now I am not sure about points. Past events with Rally2, retired crews were in Stage classification, but not in Overall. I didnt found any rule which make it clear.

[Robbied]

Agreed, it is not clear. But a rally2 crew will not be in Final Classification, and therefore no points can be awarded. They will be in stage classification...! This only applies for regional regs, WRC sporting regs are slightly different again i think...!

[werner]

Agreed, it is not clear. But a rally2 crew will not be in Final Classification, and therefore no points can be awarded. They will be in stage classification...! This only applies for regional regs, WRC sporting regs are slightly different again i think...!

I was surprised yesterday that retired crews got 5 min penalty. This was not in past if I remember right. So todays classifications are stupid if crews like Wiegand are 6th overall now and score no points. So at the moment I really dont know what happens. Points or not? Seems also drivers are not sure about if you read Consanis press release, and also Aigners, which are different about that point ...

Just saw Consani didnt restart, but it was their plan to do yesterday?

[dimviii]

Just saw Consani didnt restart, but it was their plan to do yesterday?

gearbox had a major damage,didn t have a spare one.

[werner]

OK, Thank you dimviii

[darkstar]

and mikkelsen messed it up...again!

[Robbied]

Yes I believe Robert was trying to re-start, but had too much transmission damage.

I still think no points are awarded, the FIA regional regs are what I have been using all year, I didnt see any Cyprus event paperwork that could override this for....

[EightGear]

and mikkelsen messed it up...again!


It is a bit weird to have a double champion who hasn't won a tarmac round and only 4 events in two years.

[Nornbugger]

It is a bit weird to have a double champion who hasn't won a tarmac round and only 4 events in two years.

very true, Mikkelsen is very quick and spectacular but I think he will be something of a Latvala(only not quite as quick) Its a shame the last year of IRC wasnt let be a proper competitive championship by Skoda/VW Hanninen would have made a boy of Mikkelsen given an equal program

[pucky54]

very true, Mikkelsen is very quick and spectacular but I think he will be something of a Latvala(only not quite as quick) Its a shame the last year of IRC wasnt let be a proper competitive championship by Skoda/VW Hanninen would have made a boy of Mikkelsen given an equal program

not just Hänninen, also Basso and Kopecký for example

[SubaruNorway]

Does anybody know why Colin is there doing his own "radio thing" when rallyradio.com is broadcasting?

[Rasantes]

SS 12 - Gialia 2
SS length: 14.82 km

1º Al-Attiyah N. / Bernacchini G.(Ford Fiesta RRC)
2º Mikkelsen A. / Floene Ola(Škoda Fabia S2000) +2.49 min.
3º Arai Toshihiro / Moscatt Dale(Subaru Impreza R4) +9.58 min.
4º Nikara Jarkko / Kalliolepo J.(Subaru Impreza R4) +12.35 min.
5º Wiegand Sepp / Gottschalk Timo(Škoda Fabia S2000) +13.51 min.

[Mirek]

IRC uses FIA regional regulations. For 2012, championship points cannot be scored for Rally2 competitors.

So even if the event regulations allow re-start (which many do), there is no method of scoring for the missed stages and no way to slot back into general classification, as has been stated.

So, events could allow a retired competitor to re-start, but they cant just handout championship points agains the FIA regional regs.

I'm sorry but You are wrong. IRC points in terms of rally2 are given up to the supplementary regulations of the particular event no matter the joint FIA regional championship (rules of ERC and MERC are not same either). In the past we've seen that several times. For example Rally Russia comes to my mind as an event where rally2 crews normally got points every year. It is really rare and in logical way strange decision to allow such different approach through the season but it is like that.

[Adler]

according rally-base Ola Floene was driving Mikkelsens Fabia in the last stage....nice, and not a bad time for a codriver......

nice times also foe Andi Aigner today, but the title was lost anyway :/

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=674kDB4yX5E&feature=youtu.be

[Robbied]

I'm sorry but You are wrong. IRC points in terms of rally2 are given up to the supplementary regulations of the particular event no matter the joint FIA regional championship (rules of ERC and MERC are not same either). In the past we've seen that several times. For example Rally Russia comes to my mind as an event where rally2 crews normally got points every year. It is really rare and in logical way strange decision to allow such different approach through the season but it is like that.

True, i see your point. But the Cyprus regs do not specifially say that points will be allocated based on overall classification in a rally2 scenario. See article 13.9.1.

I appreciate what you say about Rally Russia etc, but the FIA rule change was new for 2012. I know this as i got awarded points in 2011 for superally and not in 2012 for rally2.

[Mirek]

FIA regional championship rules are irrelevant for IRC. IRC is not regional championship (that will change only next year). IRC uses international sporting code and its appendixes but not specific regulations for any FIA championship as it is not a FIA championship. IRC points are given up to the final classification. Whether the crew got to the finish by using rally2 or not is what is up to the supplementary regulations of the event. Points given in any joint event held in same time have no meaning for IRC. For example not only that rally2 doesn't exist in ERC, there are also bonus points for leg standings in the ERC but that feature is not used for IRC classification although Ypres and Barum were part of FIA regional championship ERC. Also the season standings are counted completely different way.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good win for the Al-Attiyah in the Ford... and it looks like the shape of things to come for Qatar M-Sport in 2013 :)

http://www.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2012/events/46_Cyprus/day1/normal/normal_al-attiyah_cy_73.JPG

[Karbonyl]

IMO the restarted crews are fully eligible to score the IRC points. The IRC classification is counting the crews in the overall classification of the rally. And as the Cyprus rally is run according to the FIA MERC regulations, which include the Rally2, I see no problem with allocating points to crews, which retired on Saturday and restarted Sunday.

[bluuford]

Good job by Nasser, as I mentioned before. Nasser is very experienced here and he knows how to be fastest by the end of this rally. Mikkelsen can be very fast everywhere else, much faster than Nasser, but this rally is much more different.

[RS]

Was Nasser in RRC?

I read that Ola Floene will retire after this event which is why Andy handed over the steering wheel. I find it a bit sad that Ola won't join Andreas in WRC with VW. Who is going to replace him?

[EightGear]

Was Nasser in RRC?

I read that Ola Floene will retire after this event which is why Andy handed over the steering wheel. I find it a bit sad that Ola won't join Andreas in WRC with VW. Who is going to replace him?


Mikko Markkula, as already mentioned in other topics a few days ago. ;)

[tolis]

Was Nasser in RRC?

I read that Ola Floene will retire after this event which is why Andy handed over the steering wheel. I find it a bit sad that Ola won't join Andreas in WRC with VW. Who is going to replace him?
Yes, Nasser was in RRC.
Mikko Markkula will replace him.

[Viking]

Mikkelsen first to win back-to-back IRC titles | Andreas Mikkelsen (http://www.andreasmikkelsen.no/news/mikkelsen-first-to-win-back-to-back-irc-titles-2/)

[tolis]

Day 2 highlights now on Eurosport Portugal: Eurosport online, eurosport em directo no CasaDosSegredos.tv - Secret Story 3 Online (http://www.casadossegredos.tv/eurosport)

[Mintexmemory]

So is this Nasser's first win in Europe (as opposed to ME only events)?

[EightGear]

Ola Floene said he wanted to be in the sport and continue but that he had to accept it and this is what life is like sometimes. The reporter then asked if it was his or Andreas' decision and he replied "No, somebody else.." and looked a bit sad...

VW's decision I would say... They have a history in thing like this.

[Juha_Koo]

VW's decision I would say... They have a history in thing like this.

And excatly what would be VW's motive to break up a working driver-codriver relationship where the codriver is highly experienced? Maybe it's some personal issues.

To my current knowledge, only Catalunya is 100% confirmed that Mikkelsen will compete with Markkula.

[werner]

They speak about that Ola with 44 years cannot stay with Mikkelsen who is (23??) for future. OK, but we all know that codrivers have no age limit, and we all are looking forward if Andreas can be with a new codriver on that level. In my opinion its not a good solution to change codriver who knows him from first days in rallying now, when he is going into WRC. Except it was a decision between Andreas and Ola, but this seems isnt ...

[Mintexmemory]

And excatly what would be VW's motive to break up a working driver-codriver relationship where the codriver is highly experienced? Maybe it's some personal issues.

To my current knowledge, only Catalunya is 100% confirmed that Mikkelsen will compete with Markkula.

It seems that Catalunya is an audition for MM - If the combination works he gets a WRC ride next season, if not expect musical chairs in the right hand seat before AM gets the Polo.

[AndyRAC]

I find it slightly strange, especially after the interview with Ola, on Eurosport. What is the reasoning? And why Markko Markkula? Hanninen can't be best pleased that his co driver is being 'poached'. There is something going on, and we don't know the full story.

I remember when Gwyndaf signed for Seat, they wanted Howard to lose weight if he wanted to continue with Gwyndaf, and Prodrive fired Ringer in 1996 and brought in Nicky Grist, to provide a better influence.

[uranium]

All these histories around so called champion are at least strange.
Shame on everything that

[tommeke_B]

Most likely a personal decision from Ola Floene. At some point you need to think about what you're doing, there are many codrivers who stepped aside in order to let that driver grow to a higher level... ;)
I'm quite confident that VW isn't involved in this change.

[RS]

Musical chairs at Skoda. Maybe Floene will end up with Lappi?

[Mirek]

Most likely a personal decision from Ola Floene. At some point you need to think about what you're doing, there are many codrivers who stepped aside in order to let that driver grow to a higher level... ;)
I'm quite confident that VW isn't involved in this change.

Someone wrote here that Ola said it was neither his nor Andreas's decision.

[PLuto]

So is this Nasser's first win in Europe (as opposed to ME only events)?

It is not, Nasser won in Cyprus two years ago.

[Viking]

It seems that Catalunya is an audition for MM - If the combination works he gets a WRC ride next season, if not expect musical chairs in the right hand seat before AM gets the Polo.

In the VW Motorsport press release it seems like Catalunya is just the start of a (hopefully) long companionship.

"The new champion of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC), Andreas Mikkelsen, will be at the wheel of the second Fabia S2000 fielded by Volkswagen Motorsport for the seventh time this season in Spain. "It’s a great feeling to be travelling to Rally Spain as IRC champion,” says the Norwegian. I last drove in Spain in 2008, but that was only on gravel back then. This will also be my first rally with my new co-driver Mikko Markkula. I’d like to thank Ola Fløene for the fantastic teamwork. Now I’m looking forward to the new challenge with Mikko. Our main goal is to find a good rhythm. But of course I want to stay on Sébastien’s heels like at the last rallies,” says Mikkelsen."

[AndyRAC]

Someone wrote here that Ola said it was neither his nor Andreas's decision.

Well if you've seen the interview - it's pretty clear it wasn't his, or Andreas who made the decision - but he didn't really want to say that.

[makinen_fan]

Well if you've seen the interview - it's pretty clear it wasn't his, or Andreas who made the decision - but he didn't really want to say that.

Which interview? Is there a video?

[Mirek]

Well if you've seen the interview - it's pretty clear it wasn't his, or Andreas who made the decision - but he didn't really want to say that.

I didn't see it. I'm at work without sound :)

[tolis]

Only 4 wins is 21 IRC rallies the last 2 years for Mikkelsen. 2 times IRC champion! :)

[tolis]

And what’s next for Andreas Mikkelsen?
“The plan is to do the world championship with Volkswagen and to drive the Polo World Rally Car. The deal is not signed but it’s very, very close.”


Q&A: Andreas Mikkelsen - News - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/news/detail/id/1161)

[AndyRAC]

Which interview? Is there a video?

It was on Eurosport last night.

[tolis]

It was on Eurosport last night.

Day 2 coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4Kh9-WvbI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4Kh9-WvbI)

[Mintexmemory]

It is not, Nasser won in Cyprus two years ago.
Thanks

[Viking]

Only 4 wins is 21 IRC rallies the last 2 years for Mikkelsen. 2 times IRC champion! :)

And Richard Burns were wrc champ with one win... get over it ;)

[tolis]

And Richard Burns were wrc champ with one win... get over it ;)
For one year, it's logical...for 2 years it sounds a bit strange! :D

[Nornbugger]

And Richard Burns were wrc champ with one win... get over it ;)

national pride is IMO a good thing, but even allowing for it you cannot surely be impressed with Andreas performance over this season?

[werner]

Someone wrote here that Ola said it was neither his nor Andreas's decision.

Its NOT confirmed that MM is codriver at spain.

[Viking]

national pride is IMO a good thing, but even allowing for it you cannot surely be impressed with Andreas performance over this season?

national pride aside... who got the most points? Ask Skoda UK if they are happy. Yes Skoda decided early on what driver should go for what championship, they could for sure have burned off more money and made it a little more interesting for us, but hey they won everything didn't they?

The IRC is (was) an different kind of animal, the regs with "best 8" and shorter rallys favored flat out rallying and bigger risk than wrc regulations. Yes he could have done with a few punctures and crashes less, if so he could have had the championship in July.

Congrats Andreas and Ola :)


And... bring back tyre mousse please :D

[Mirek]

Its NOT confirmed that MM is codriver at spain.

From interview with Andreas on sport.cz I would say Spain is sure.

[Viking]

From interview with Andreas on sport.cz I would say Spain is sure.

And VW Motorsport press release

Final countdown to WRC entry - Volkswagen Motorsport (http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/news/index.php?&flash=no&lg=e&st=637&id=5184)

[dimviii]

just saw Olas interview.Pitty that they seperated them without be their decision.Seems that was vw decision,but doubt we will ever know the reason.
Another sad think is with MM at Andreas next bucket, even Hanninen doesn t seem to have something for 2013.Maybe tests with vw group?

[EightGear]

Rumours are Kaj Linsdtrom will partner Hanninen according to Colin Clark.

[PLuto]

If Juho will continue.

[dimviii]

If Juho will continue.

a lot of strange news....even Hanninen didn t know about Markulas change?

from Colins Clark twitter

Hearing that Juho was a bit surprised to hear that Mikko is sitting next to Andreas in Spain. Kaj Lindstrom being suggested as replacement

[AndyRAC]

It's all very unsatisfactory, and probably not needed.

[werner]

Seems nobody of the involved persons made any decision ...

[Mintexmemory]

So we begin to see the VW management style in action.. They may have got things on track technically, but there is more to crew compatability than contracts and language!

[dimviii]

nice cut
Now that's what you call a 'cut'! #CyprusRally... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/bacxig)

[RS]

If Juho will continue.

He's not thinking of retirement, surely?

[Coach 2]

So we begin to see the VW management style in action.. They may have got things on track technically, but there is more to crew compatability than contracts and language!

Do not be too sure that VW is to blame, if you are referring to Andreas and Ola, they both deal with EVEN-rally don't they.

[uranium]

This year:
AM - ALL stages, 168 points, but 13.23 avg, only 2 wins
JH - just 5 stages, 93 points, 18.6 avg, 3 wins

Number says

[EightGear]

This year:
AM - ALL stages, 168 points, but 13.23 avg, only 2 wins
JH - just 5 stages, 93 points, 18.6 avg, 3 wins

Number says

Mikkelsen didn't do all rounds. He missed Sliven and Sanremo (and more)?

[Mirek]

Your math is wrong.

Andreas didn't do all events but 10. Than You forgot there is only eight events count so You must take 172 as base for average. But the average 17,2 again doesn't make sense as Cyprus had double points. Without Cyprus it is 14,7.

For Juho You are right. Jan Kopecký was on 16,8 including retirement on Barum which was caused by engine failure not his mistake. That was the only works Škoda technical retirement in IRC history and Jan was in that time in very solid second place and it was the last stage. His average score would be 19,8.

The nice thing on statistics is that it's up to You how good You are in using them to support Your arguments :)

[Viking]

Your math is wrong.

Andreas didn't do all events but 10. Than You forgot there is only eight events count so You must take 172 as base for average. But the average 17,2 again doesn't make sense as Cyprus had double points. Without Cyprus it is 14,7.

For Juho You are right. Jan Kopecký was on 16,8 including retirement on Barum which was caused by engine failure not his mistake. That was the only works Škoda technical retirement in IRC history and Jan was in that time in very solid second place and it was the last stage. His average score would be 19,8.

The nice thing on statistics is that it's up to You how good You are in using them to support Your arguments :)


But Al-Attiyah beats them all with an average score of 50 points! Better tell Andreas that he got the rules all wrong :D

[stefanvv]

Only 4 wins is 21 IRC rallies the last 2 years for Mikkelsen. 2 times IRC champion! :)

Hirvonen would be interested how he managed to do that :D

[stefanvv]

So we begin to see the VW management style in action.. They may have got things on track technically, but there is more to crew compatability than contracts and language!

I would agree with VW if they have made this decision. The age difference is just too much I think, and if they want to invest in an young driver they want to be sure the crew which is forming will be for more years than 1 or 2.

[stefanvv]

nice cut
Now that's what you call a 'cut'! #CyprusRally... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/bacxig)

Nobody likes the tarmac in Cyprus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ij4Kh9-WvbI#t=466s

[Co-driven]

Which interview? Is there a video?

I don't know wheter it was already posted or not, but here is the video in which Ola tells that he won't be with Mikkelsen next year: IRC CYPRUS TEAM CELEBRATION - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/46/id/660)

It's clear his unhappiness and he mentioned that it wasn't either his or Andreas decision, "it was someone else's"

[rallye-vid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=o1eVlzxHhio#t=202s