Hyundai i20 WRC

[Mintexmemory]

Rumours says the lineup is. Mikko Hirvonen and Cris Atkinson
Neuville should remain the Ford. It would be good to his career.

Presumably the big cheeses who have sanctioned the budget for this project have defined the KPIs. Surely this does not include 'select a driving team of no. 2s and perpetual excuse-mongers'. Hyundai are taking a far different approach to VW (though arguably better than Prodrive with the Mini) but a Driver capable of winning the WDC has to be pretty high on the list!

[Andre Oliveira]

Neuville at Hyundai rumour (http://www.autonewsinfo.com/2013/10/19/wrc-2014-thierry-neuville-aurait-signe-chez-hyundai-107087.html)

[AndyRAC]

Rumours says the lineup is. Mikko Hirvonen and Chris Atkinson
Neuville should remain the Ford. It would be good to his career.

Presumably the big cheeses who have sanctioned the budget for this project have defined the KPIs. Surely this does not include 'select a driving team of no. 2s and perpetual excuse-mongers'. Hyundai are taking a far different approach to VW (though arguably better than Prodrive with the Mini) but a Driver capable of winning the WDC has to be pretty high on the list!

If true - and who really knows - it's not very inspiring or looking to the future, is it?

If it was me, I'd go for Neuville, Hanninen and one other....

[GigiGalliNo1]

2 cars but more than 2 drivers for Hyundai WRC Team

Head to http://www.irallylive.com for the interviews!

Podcasts with Nadan.

[kober]

2 cars but more than 2 drivers for Hyundai WRC Team
Hirvonen in the full-season car, Hanninen/Atkinson/Bouffier sharing the other one?

[MJW]

I would have thought Neuville and Mikko both get a full season.

[COD]

Neuville no.1 and then Hänninen gravel, Bouffier tarmac?

[RS]

Neuville no.1 and then Hänninen gravel, Bouffier tarmac?

Could be, but Juho is quite capable on tarmac and Bouffier quite capable on gravel too :)

[pucky54]

We need Panizzi in the second car at Monte Carlo...I don't care about the rest :D :D

[PLuto]

We need Panizzi in the second car at Monte Carlo...I don't care about the rest :D :D

I will bet on Panizzi or Delecour ;)

[dimviii]

We need Panizzi in the second car at Monte Carlo...I don't care about the rest :D :D

I will bet on Panizzi or Delecour ;)

NOT Panizzi or Delecour,both of them at same team is best. :laugh:

[COD]

Neuville no.1 and then Hänninen gravel, Bouffier tarmac?

Could be, but Juho is quite capable on tarmac and Bouffier quite capable on gravel too :)

That is very true. But if they want 3 drivers and 2 cars then this would be best solution. Just as long they don't go with looser Hirvonen

[Mirek]

That is very true. But if they want 3 drivers and 2 cars then this would be best solution. Just as long they don't go with looser Hirvonen

Hyundai works on two different cars in the same time - the "old generation" i20 for 2014 and the "new generation" i20 for 2015 and further. For that they need definitely more than two drivers. Not all of them will compete for sure but somebody must do all the upcoming testing.

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 200&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.591717697560784.1073741847.501750213224200&type=1)


new rear aero ,and some changes at front bumper

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/hyundai-i20- ... ologation/ (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/hyundai-i20-wrc-vers-premiere-homologation/)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJFiQWpVqio

[Toyoda]

Love how its looking more and more like the Polo

[uranium]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=15187

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Line-up announced tomorrow acc to Hyundai Twitter...

Neuville maybe ?

[andyone]

Line-up announced tomorrow acc to Hyundai Twitter...

Neuville maybe ?
I hope not...:mrgreen:

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[PLuto]

Neuville will be in Hyundai...

[Mintexmemory]

Neuville will be in Hyundai...
Source please!!

[Lord_Shaitan]

Nothing official yet but...
http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/wrc- ... 840313a70e

And it's really hard to believe that tomorrow they will make a surprise for us...

Hyundai Motorsport ?@HyundaiWRC 3h
Lots of speculation in the public regarding our line-up recently.Part of it will be revealed 2morrow,stay tuned !#excitement #officialnews

[WUff1]

Also German rallye-magazin.de writes about it - it seems to be fixed:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm ... index.html (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2013/11/04/neuville-und-hyundai-einigen-sich/index.html)

[PLuto]

Neuville will be in Hyundai...
Source please!!

Source is very good, but not for public... ;-)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Belgian fans are sure its a done deal.

If true lets hope Hyundai do as well as VW did on their debut !

[N.O.T]

Belgian fans are sure its a done deal.

If true lets hope Hyundai do as well as VW did on their debut !

they will not do as well as vw, VW was developing the car for a whole year. If they manage to be on par with citroen and ford it will be great but to be honest i doubt they will... but one can hope. The fact that they invest in a good driver shows they are serious about the sport which is good.

[danon]

Neuville sells but won't make a master and is not blessed to punish the Empire's protege whatever the team.

He can only beat him on the catwalk.

[Rallyper]

And three years contract... Hope TN will get really well paid.

[EightGear]

And three years contract... Hope TN will get really well paid.

One million a year.

[Rallyper]

And three years contract... Hope TN will get really well paid.

One million a year.

I suppose this is way beyond what MW could offer?

[danon]

He can make even more money by selling eyewear like hot chocolate while on top of the wave.

I am pretty sure someone stole me the idea already.

Money machine... :D

[tolis]

And three years contract... Hope TN will get really well paid.
So, will this make Al-Attiyah disappointed and make him leave from Ford?

[danon]

Cheers to the Neuville's PR team behind blue screens.

You're doing great guys... :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least Hyundai are serious this time.. and even if they only compete with the rest (not VW) in 2014 its better for us fans..

The WRC needed another manufacturer to keep the sport progressing. Without them 2014 would look pretty bleak considering the state of current Ford & Citroen ...

I think I'll be a Hyundai fan next year !

[danon]

no point to compete to rest except VW

from now on the Empire is the ref point and the Menace for them all

not the arrogant one alone

[litifeta]

TN and Nicolas Gilsoul. Well we all guessed that. What about the other crew?

[tolis]

https://twitter.com/HyundaiWRC/status/3 ... 66/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/HyundaiWRC/status/397650879966244866/photo/1)

[RS]

Bit of a gamble for Neuville but I guess Wilson couldn't offer him anything secure.

TBH I hope they don't wuss out and share the second car between three drivers. The three mentioned names are all good drivers, but I don't know how they would chose between them for certain events and it doesn't give the drivers much continuity either. I would take a maximum of two.

[litifeta]

It is all very interesting. Hyundai have Atkinson on a retainer as the promoter of their brand in AUS.

[drive]

Thierry Neuville to be Hyundai Motorsport’s lead driver from 2014 Press release (http://www.newspress.co.uk/public/ViewPressRelease.aspx?pr=46889&pr_ref=16774)

[Rallyper]

The WRC needed another manufacturer to keep the sport progressing. Without them 2014 would look pretty bleak considering the state of current Ford & Citroen ...



Current state? Are the cars slower or what? No, it´s just that Seb O is so much faster driver. Nothing wrong with Ford and Citroen otherwise.

[Rallyper]

Btw I wish TN good luck in new car. Let´s hope he can fight for top three next year. If nothing unexpected happens with the I20´s performance (we haven´t seen it compared to the others) I do believe he will.

[Leon]

I wonder how many years is this multi year deal...

why they do not mention it

[A FONDO]

I wonder how many years is this multi year deal...

why they do not mention it
3

[Eli]

so the rotating chairs will now begin...

[uranium]

It is very interesting what "ifs" are written in contract ;)

[Francis44]

I think it was somehow an expected choice from Neuville. Hyundai has come a long way in build and overall quality of their products, so I expect that to reflect in their motorsport division aswell.

Plus he's a young guy surely looking to build a stable life, so the money obviously had a say in it. I dont know what offer Wilson had in the table but for sure it wasn't better.

[Leon]

I wonder how many years is this multi year deal...

why they do not mention it
3

I don' t see that anywhere, at least officially

[andyone]

Which other driver s to join him.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

The WRC needed another manufacturer to keep the sport progressing. Without them 2014 would look pretty bleak considering the state of current Ford & Citroen ...


i
Current state? Are the cars slower or what? No, it´s just that Seb O is so much faster driver. Nothing wrong with Ford and Citroen otherwise.

The Polo is faster though... JML proves this.

[Rallyper]

[quote="Fast Eddie WRC":1pjblvxc]

The WRC needed another manufacturer to keep the sport progressing. Without them 2014 would look pretty bleak considering the state of current Ford & Citroen ...


i
Current state? Are the cars slower or what? No, it´s just that Seb O is so much faster driver. Nothing wrong with Ford and Citroen otherwise.

The Polo is faster though... JML proves this.[/quote:1pjblvxc]

I´ve also pointed that out, being ruled out by many members on this forum. Right, Mirek? :)

Anyhow, I don´t think the difference is that big you could talk about Ford and Citroens current state...

[Mirek]

I´ve also pointed that out, being ruled out by many members on this forum. Right, Mirek? :)

I don't remember the context in which we discussed that. Anyway I think it's not good to simplify the issues to the simple sentence "car A is faster than car B". In my opinion it is much more complex in reality. It's the combination of a car and a crew and mainly their confidence in the car. I don't believe that any of recent WRC cars is so much better than others (with the exception of Mini). I think that we saw that some drivers are fast in all cars, some are slower in all cars. Usually the fans of those slower blame the car of their hero to slow him down and blame the car of the faster driver to give them advantage :)

[dimviii]

. Anyway I think it's not good to simplify the issues to the simple sentence "car A is faster than car B". In my opinion it is much more complex in reality. It's the combination of a car and a crew and mainly their confidence in the car. I don't believe that any of recent WRC cars is so much better than others (with the exception of Mini). I think that we saw that some drivers are fast in all cars, some are slower in all cars. Usually the fans of those slower blame the car of their hero to slow him down and blame the car of the faster driver to give them advantage :)

true

[RS]

[quote="Fast Eddie WRC":2mz4q9cx]
The Polo is faster though... JML proves this.[/quote:2mz4q9cx]

Really? If we are going to make assumptions I rather thought that the performances of JML and Mikko since leaving M-Sport showed that maybe the Ford wasn't as bad as we all thought? BTW I'm not implying that either car is better, I'm just querying how you worked that out?

Anyhow like Mirek says it is not that simple. For example I don't believe Mikko is as bad as he has shown this year and I don't think that Neuville's great speed this year proves the Ford is faster than the Citroen either.

[irish_tiger]

Really? If we are going to make assumptions I rather thought that the performances of JML and Mikko since leaving M-Sport showed that maybe the Ford wasn't as bad as we all thought? BTW I'm not implying that either car is better, I'm just querying how you worked that out?

Anyhow like Mirek says it is not that simple. For example I don't believe Mikko is as bad as he has shown this year and I don't think that Neuville's great speed this year proves the Ford is faster than the Citroen either.[/quote]

This is very true , at times Neuville was on a par with the Polo's and the Citroen just couldnt become a bad car over night , but did i read somewhere that when Neuville was driving the Citroen he found it nervous ?

[OldF]

TBH I hope they don't wuss out and share the second car between three drivers. The three mentioned names are all good drivers, but I don't know how they would chose between them for certain events and it doesn't give the drivers much continuity either. I would take a maximum of two.

At least it would give continuity to the testing & development of the car. Continuing developing of the current model and a new model coming in 2015, I think there’s a lot of testing although Hyundai could most certainly use most of the parts in the new model.

Hyundai could of course hire Juho, Bryan & Chris to be test drivers only but I think they’re keen to test their setups in real action and it could give some hints in which direction to go.

Naturally Thierry would also do testing and development.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

A new model Hyundai in 2015... what is this likely to be ?

Seems strange to do all the work on the i20 then start again...

[kober]

A new model Hyundai in 2015... what is this likely to be ?
Second generation of i20 is due at the end of 2014.

[A FONDO]

A new model Hyundai in 2015... what is this likely to be ?

Seems strange to do all the work on the i20 then start again...
the basics of the 2014 model was made by the koreans because the other things were not sorted yet
the 2015 and forward will be solely from the new french team, which will also act like partner of Hyundai for tuning other road vehicles

[litifeta]

They Hyundai 'business' plan is behind this. It is about selling cars. Yes they will do their best to be competitive.

Hyundai want a motorsport division to sell cars, built on similar lines to Nismo. Hyundai Australia said they wanted to have something along the lines of the Clio, Megane, Focus ST, in their stable within 5 years.

Having drivers that young male buyers can identify with is really important.

[Rallyper]

They Hyundai 'business' plan is behind this. It is about selling cars. Yes they will do their best to be competitive.

Hyundai want a motorsport division to sell cars, built on similar lines to Nismo. Hyundai Australia said they wanted to have something along the lines of the Clio, Megane, Focus ST, in their stable within 5 years.

Having drivers that young male buyers can identify with is really important.

Let´s hope Mitsu and Subaru gets this.

[COD]

Perfectly logical decision by Neuville, besides VW, Hyundai is the only current manufacturer with a long term plan for WRC.

[stefanvv]

Perfectly logical decision by Neuville, besides VW, Hyundai is the only current manufacturer with a long term plan for WRC.
I agree. Seems the right choice for him. May be not for next year, but for next ones it is.

[MJW]

It looks to me that WRC has chosen its future path, and will now be the playground / shopwindow of the big players, the €70 to €80M club, maybe Toyota can join the party. On a serious note, I dont think this bodes too well for MSport after 2014 when the cars require homologation, similar to the PSA Group, maybe these two stalwarts of the WRC car era will go the way of Lancia. I would have liked to see R5 or R5 plus as the top car with Ford, Citroen, Peugeot, Opel, FIAT etc, maybe Skoda representing VW Group and Hyundai entering WRC.
Budgets of €70-€80M probably mean Ford wont come back, and PSA will be out of the door end of 2014.
Who knows R5 in ERC and customers is where Ford MSport will end up?

[andyone]

Guys its not all about the cars. Its the drivers.. Finland said it all. Jarkko nikara in a mini was pretty fast.

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[Nornbugger]

A new model Hyundai in 2015... what is this likely to be ?

Seems strange to do all the work on the i20 then start again...


I'm sure there will be a lot of carry over between the cars, this way they'll be planning to hit the ground running when the new car arrives

[RS]

I guess having a totally fresh homologation after just one year will be an advantage too as they can fix any fundamental problems with the first car which they otherwise would not be able to.

[Brother John]

Perfectly logical decision by Neuville, besides VW, Hyundai is the only current manufacturer with a long term plan for WRC.

Hyundai is the only current manufacturer with a long term plan for WRC.
First I want to see this!! :hmph:

[jonkka]

Plans can change so even existence of long term plans guarantee nothing. They had long-term plans with four seasons of Accent WRC (and even longer if Coupe Kit Car is included). After all, Toyota was back only for two years.

[Mirek]

Plans can change so even existence of long term plans guarantee nothing. They had long-term plans with four seasons of Accent WRC (and even longer if Coupe Kit Car is included). After all, Toyota was back only for two years.

Times has changed. From a Korean underdog they became one of the biggest and richest car manufacturers in the world. Now they are in a direct marketing battle with VAG, Toyota or PSA and they can not afford to run away like sick dogs. Their budget is virtually unlimited, they hired best available people, built a huge new facility, there are rumors they even bought some military area in Germany for having secret tests etc.

Actually what they do now is exactly same what VW did with the only exception in fact that they have no Fabia S2000 to use for testing so they decided to build a test car for 2014 which may have nothing common with the real 2015 WRC car.

In all aspects they look extremely serious. In other words if this is not serious approach what is?

[AndyRAC]

I'd say they're deadly serious. Some people are still thinking of the former effort with MSD, and with the amateur video released last year - and that is blinding them, despite the evidence. Signing the hottest young driver, having a proper test programme, etc

I'm looking forward to seeing them debut, but 2015 is the year for them. Next year is their 'VW 2012', albeit in the top category, rather than with a S2000 Fabia.

[sollitt]

I think their competitiveness next year will surprise many people.

[Andre Oliveira]

I want see Neuville testing :bounce:

[Rallyper]

I want see Neuville testing :bounce:

Depending on MW, and his goodwill, you might have to wait until January the first...

[Andre Oliveira]

Malcolm Wilson is a good guy, and he have more things to worry about.

[litifeta]

there are rumors they even bought some military area in Germany for having secret tests etc.

They have a huge testing facility in Australia. And that's a fact

[A FONDO]

So they can quietly avoid the limit of testing for registered teams?

[Mirek]

So they can quietly avoid the limit of testing for registered teams?

There's no limit for testing on private grounds I think.

[Mirek]

They have a huge testing facility in Australia. And that's a fact

That's not really practical for team based in Germany ;)

[bluuford]

I want see Neuville testing :bounce:

Depending on MW, and his goodwill, you might have to wait until January the first...

You can almost bet on it that if Huyndai wants Neuville to test for them before his contract is over, then they find suitable resources for Malcolm to increase his goodwill ;-)

[litifeta]

Interested to hear (from anyone that has driven in snow and ice) what people think Hyundai are doing in this video. To me it seems odd driving behaviour. Are they trying to simulate driving in snow for Monte? Getting data on braking and balance. Seems a really high gear ratio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HXmnWIocz0

[Mirek]

Somebody said they were testing a "WRC event" including road sections etc. I have no sound here but if recall the video was without anti-lag that means probably in road mode of ECU.

When Škoda was preparing Fabia S2000 they were sometimes driving on motorways around Mladá Boleslav on road mode to search for every possible faults.

[dimviii]

Somebody said they were testing a "WRC event" including road sections etc. I have no sound here but if recall the video was without anti-lag that means probably in road mode of ECU.

When Škoda was preparing Fabia S2000 they were sometimes driving on motorways around Mladá Boleslav on road mode to search for every possible faults.

yes they have to map the ecu at very different climate conditions,and thats not so easy.Needs time,and different conditions,and many test kms.
remember the fail of all works 206 that didn t manage to start the engine at very cold weather?

[Mirek]

I don't remember that one but I do remember the same with both Octavia WRC in Monte Carlo 1999 :)

[makinen_fan]

I don't remember that one but I do remember the same with both Octavia WRC in Monte Carlo 1999 :)

Monte 2000. No 206 started the second day because they refused to restart :S
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php ... Carlo-2000 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=108&s=1981&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2000)

[Gregor-y]

remember the fail of all works 206 that didn t manage to start the engine at very cold weather?
Monte Carlo, 2000, if I remember. Burns' Subaru, too. I've got the video, somewhere.

[Doon]

It was Monte Carlo 2001.

[Mirek]

It was Monte Carlo 2001.

Two posts back You have a link to results. It was in 2000...

Anyway thanks to Makinen fan.

[Sulland]

Plans can change so even existence of long term plans guarantee nothing. They had long-term plans with four seasons of Accent WRC (and even longer if Coupe Kit Car is included). After all, Toyota was back only for two years.

Times has changed. From a Korean underdog they became one of the biggest and richest car manufacturers in the world. Now they are in a direct marketing battle with VAG, Toyota or PSA and they can not afford to run away like sick dogs. Their budget is virtually unlimited, they hired best available people, built a huge new facility, there are rumors they even bought some military area in Germany for having secret tests etc.

Actually what they do now is exactly same what VW did with the only exception in fact that they have no Fabia S2000 to use for testing so they decided to build a test car for 2014 which may have nothing common with the real 2015 WRC car.

In all aspects they look extremely serious. In other words if this is not serious approach what is?

Many similarities to Toyota in the 80s here, HQ in Germany, lots of cash, hire top notch.
That resulted in a lot of victories, lets see what their Korean twin can make of it in Rally!

[jonkka]

There's no limit for testing on private grounds I think.

Rules make no distinction:

66. TESTING
66.1 PERMITTED TESTING SITES
For Manufacturers or WRC Teams registered in the Championship, testing (as defined in Art. 2.20) is permitted:
66.1.1 On a permanent testing site proposed by the Manufacturer or WRC Team before its first rally of the year and notified to the FIA. The permanent testing site must be located in the country where the Manufacturer or WRC Team rally cars are registered.
66.1.2 During a calendar year, a P1 driver may use only one permanent testing site.
66.1.3 In Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and UK.
66.2 BANNED TESTING
For Manufacturers or WRC Teams registered in the Championship, testing (as defined in Art. 2.20) is banned:
66.2.1 In all other countries.
66.2.2 In the country of any World Rally Championship round from the start of reconnaissance until the end of the rally.
66.2.3 On any road which is or might be used as a special stage of any current Championship rally.
66.2.4 By permanently nominated P1 drivers other than for the team to which they are contracted.

[Mirek]

I can't see there any limit for testing on permanent testing site (66.1.1). If I understand that right they can do whatever they want any time they want on such place and that's what I meant.

[HaCo]

But is Hyundai registered already? :-)

[bluuford]

Hyundai is not registered yet, So, they can test 24/7, on your backyard..on Rally GB stages one day before the rally or after the rally... wherever they want. Like VW did.

[A FONDO]

http://www.almrally.ru/d_images/news/ns ... 009965.jpg (http://www.almrally.ru/d_images/news/ns0120/120373/120375_190640_d_1384009965.jpg)

http://www.almrally.ru/d_images/news/ns ... 009952.jpg (http://www.almrally.ru/d_images/news/ns0120/120373/120375_190639_d_1384009952.jpg)

[A FONDO]

Has anyone found this in proper resolution?

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/15210_foto_hyundai_72a8d3fb79.jpg

[danon]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4976/6rbo.jpg

a hi res one especially for you -> http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7391/47ob.jpg

if want more hi res test pics just sign your name in the waiting order list... :D :spanner:

[miniwintz]

Has anyone found this in proper resolution?

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/15210_foto_hyundai_72a8d3fb79.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 9213_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1398339_598097953589425_421639213_o.jpg)

[litifeta]

The place looks really beautiful. I would love to go to Europe. Maybe one day.

[OnlyRally]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4976/6rbo.jpg

a hi res one especially for you -> http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7391/47ob.jpg

if want more hi res test pics just sign your name in the waiting order list... :D :spanner:

Where is that???

[litifeta]

hey thanks so much

[A FONDO]

waaaw amazing, danon and miniwic thank you very much!

[kober]

Where is that???
Some part of Germany - Schwarzwald? Hyundai i20 WRC Tarmac Test in Germany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23uC9hwMEM)

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/HyundaiWRC/status/4 ... 00/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/HyundaiWRC/status/402424206907801600/photo/1)

[Mirek]

Need for Speed WRC? :D

[EightGear]

It's a collaboration between Hyundai and EA Sports, it doesn't say anything about Hyundai Motorsports. I think they are just promoting something and are using their Motorsport twitterpage for it.

[HaCo]

Edit: wrong topic :-)

[Andre Oliveira]

Hyundai i20 WRC mobile game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdhVcE4w2WE)

It seems that Electronic Arts will be sponsor of Hyundai.

[makinen_fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3ZcZTT ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3ZcZTTYt0&feature=youtu.be)

[A FONDO]

the receptionist is sweet :D

[igi]

Remainds me to a certain video spot from Prodigy :D

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZsQRsxCYAA_1LU.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZsL_bOCEAAeWCU.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Thierry already testing the i20

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1459112_604535782945642_1021185007_n.jpg

[kolin]

Hi!

Is there any video of this testing ? Or for more photos?

Thanks.

[Rallyper]

No tests for TN before 01 01 2014... Or did MW allow him?

[SubaruNorway]

Should be interesting to see if we can tell on some face expressions what he thinks of the car…
Did he try it at all before deciding to go to Hyundai?

[OldF]

No tests for TN before 01 01 2014... Or did MW allow him?

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/statu ... 24/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/404293691160141824/photo/1)

[Mirek]

Juho in Spain, was it here? Looks good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... rcddwcaMl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=frcddwcaMl0)

[litifeta]

are you sure its Juho? Looks like Atkinson's style?

[er88]

the car imo sounds really good!

[jbmarcus21]

yesterday i was to Thierry Neuville 1st test with i20Wrc

my [VIDEO]



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6Ax9X1 ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6Ax9X1BHA&feature=youtu.be)

[RS]

yesterday i was to Thierry Neuville 1st test with i20Wrc

my [VIDEO]



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6Ax9X1 ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6Ax9X1BHA&feature=youtu.be)

Thanks!

It doesn't look that fast but it sounds really good.

[Rallyper]

The car now has a proper engine for the first time I´ve seen. Looking good. Even handling (suspension) seems to be beyond promising, which has been the comments before. I regard the car we´ve seen on gravel and with TN as the final version we´ll see in MC 2014...

[Juha_Koo]

When do they have to start the homologation process so that it's completed before Monte Carlo's administrative checks?

[PLuto]

When do they have to start the homologation process so that it's completed before Monte Carlo's administrative checks?

They have started homologation process...

[Mirek]

are you sure its Juho? Looks like Atkinson's style?

It's written in video description.

[Andre Oliveira]

Another video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eJFJB5p554

[N.O.T]

tough year ahead for everyone at Hyundai.

[Andre Oliveira]

I am very confident. The car looks good on this conditions. Now is time to Neuville setup :angryfire

[makinen_fan]

Another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYNEAfIGlnc

Personally I find the sound of the Hyundai terrible. It reminds me the sound of the Accent WRC

[Rallying UK]

Several good videos doing the rounds tonight, following the Thierry Neuville's test in France:

http://www.thinglink.com/scene/461271904980828160

[A FONDO]

Another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYNEAfIGlnc

Personally I find the sound of the Hyundai terrible. It reminds me the sound of the Accent WRC
the sound is better than ds3. the car seems fine, ready to win stages.

[litifeta]

The maxi-pixel video shows the car is fast. Has a lot more rear downforce than the last time I saw it.

Wish they would name the other teams.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roIjPtw-kmE

[dimviii]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17kzi ... ?start=356 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17kzi9_essais-asphalte-2013-neuville-gilsoul-i20-wrc_sport?start=356)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_iFaTKU90

big improvement from previous videos.

[A FONDO]

big improvement from previous videos.
with such driver, it's not a miracle

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_iFaTKU90

big improvement from previous videos.

It seems that the piece behind steering wheel are better now from other videos :bounce:

[kiil]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4976/6rbo.jpg

a hi res one especially for you -> http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7391/47ob.jpg

if want more hi res test pics just sign your name in the waiting order list... :D :spanner:

Do you have this in original resolution?

[Rallyper]

big improvement from previous videos.
with such driver, it's not a miracle

So TN sitting behind the wheel and making louder sound from engine?? :D

I´m sure Dimitri means how the car behaves not how it´s driven.

[A FONDO]

car behavior depends on the input from the cockpit, doesn't it :D

[miniwintz]

Just a little bit, everyone should know that Loeb only won because the Citroën was better :o

[dimviii]

nice video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igB7L3qL-B8

Sordo was present at Hyundai tests according to French rumors

[makinen_fan]

nice video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igB7L3qL-B8

Sordo was present at Hyundai tests according to French rumors

French? Somewhere I read (don't remember where, maybe twitter) that Dani said so in an interview for WRC season review in Spanish TV.

[dimviii]

i read it at French forum mate.

[Andre Oliveira]

nice video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igB7L3qL-B8

Sordo was present at Hyundai tests according to French rumors

Great one :D Good 2:10

[dimviii]

nice photo and nice looking car from this angle
http://photosrallyes88.toile-libre.org/ ... /10544.jpg (http://photosrallyes88.toile-libre.org/piwigo/images/10544.jpg)

[jbmarcus21]

I was there... and not seen Sordo around.... ;)

[Mintexmemory]

I was there... and not seen Sordo around.... ;)

I'm sure he'd say he didn't see you either ;) Seriously, there must be some hefty negotiation ongoing for no news to be released yet. Or is it that this is the one period of the year when the drivers have all gone to the Maldives or Seychelles?

[danon]

Do you have this in original resolution?

Click on the link bellow for the original res.

Here's the uncensored version... :D

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5398/3d36.jpg

Hi-Res pic - http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2110/j7nh.jpg

[uranium]

Do you believe he would go faster if such monster appear :D

[stefanvv]

I didn't know Hyundai made a time machine. It should be machine for times :D BTW Neuville also met some wild life this year, but Bouffier has some story to tell :D

[Andre Oliveira]

Hyundai confirms Hänninen as second driver on selected events starting Sweden. Maybe Bouffier at Monte Carlo?!

[OldF]

Great news!

Hyundai Motorsport ?@HyundaiWRC 2m

We’re happy to announce that Juho Hänninen and @T_Tuominen will join @HyundaiWRC's driver line-up for 2014. pic.twitter.com/VR93zrXiSz

Hyundai Motorsport ?@HyundaiWRC 4m

The Finnish duo will drive the second i20 #WRC at selected @OfficialWRC events, starting with @RallySweden in February.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Just great!

[uranium]

At last! Congrats Juho!!! :bounce:

[Mirek]

Nice :)

Does it mean that Bryan Bouffier will drive Monte Carlo instead?

[Mintexmemory]

Great news - best of luck to JH
The delay in announcing No 2 for MC must mean there is a contractual competition still to be resolved. Possibly Sordo v Bouffier.

[A FONDO]

so this means sordo remains in citroen?

[focus206]

Great! I was really hoping Juho would get at least some rounds with Hyundai! :)

[Francis44]

so this means sordo remains in citroen?

As far as we know he may still be brought to the team to drive tarmac rounds.

[Andre Oliveira]

Hope Juho do some tarmac events with another car in order to not lose experience.

[makinen_fan]

Great news for JH. I hope this time we are not disappointed by his performance as the one-off rallies he did this year.

If Sordo considers doing a part-season I think they will choose him (for me, after his performance this year he does not deserve a driver in gravel). He is by far the best and consistent driver for tarmac rounds.

[kolin]

Do you have this in original resolution?

Click on the link bellow for the original res.

Here's the uncensored version... :D



Hi-Res pic - http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2110/j7nh.jpg

Good picture.

[Andre Oliveira]

Bouffier -> Tarmac events with Hyundai
Sordo -> Ford

I hope;)

[RS]

Really pleased for Juho, even if I think he would be capable of being a good second driver for the whole championship and not just a few gravel events.

I agree with others thoughts that they will aim for Sordo for tarmac and if they can't get him they will give them to Bouffier. I guess Dani is holding out for a deal somewhere for more than just the tarmac rounds though.

I am not a fan of the idea of watering down the second car to three or four drivers, so I hope it is a maximum of two.

I would rather see Sordo get a full season at Ford alongside Hirvonen, he would be a better no.2 for them than Ostberg. Put Ostberg and Novikov in a second Ford team if they are paying.

[AndyRAC]

Really pleased for Juho – lets hope he gets a decent run of events. Doing ‘one off’ events is no good for anybody. A permament team of Thierry & Juho would be good – obviously next year is all in preparation for a full effort in 2015. I’d say Juho’s pace on Tar was as good as Brians, so who knows what will happen. As for Atkinson, I’m not sure what he offers above the others. Unless Hyundai Australia have an influence??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

A properly quick and brave driver... lets hope this is the chance Hanninen has been waiting for to make the next step and he is competitive at the top level.

It would be brilliant if he and Neuville can have a great year and we see a real chance of them getting close to the VWs... :facelick:

[litifeta]

Atkinson is the only one out of the current crop with a podium at WRC Monte Carlo. Bouff won it as Round 1 of the IRC in 2011.

[Doon]

Nothing against Atko personally, but I hope he doesn't get a drive with Hyundai (except testing) because he's had his chance and although he was quick sometimes, he never showed that he could challenge the front runners consistently.

[RS]

Nothing against Atko personally, but I hope he doesn't get a drive with Hyundai (except testing) because he's had his chance and although he was quick sometimes, he never showed that he could challenge the front runners consistently.

I tend to agree with that statement. It seems it's not on the cards anyway? Things have gone a bit quiet with him, when did he actually last drive the Hyundai.

Fully expect the above post to be quoted if he does end up with a drive :laugh:

[Mirek]

Atkinson is the only one out of the current crop with a podium at WRC Monte Carlo. Bouff won it as Round 1 of the IRC in 2011.

Well, Hänninen was leading RMC three times but it always didn't end so well :) Maybe I don't remember all that well but it was +- like bellow...

In 2009 in his Škoda premiere Hänninen was leading until he picked up a puncture at the last stage of leg 2. He tried to attack on leg 3 but crashed in extremely difficult conditions of deep slush (crashed on almost same place as Meeke). Ogier won the rally with only one SS win...

In 2010 Hänninen was leading after SS1 but lost the fight to Hirvonen in first event for Fiesta S2000 mainly on wet stages where Pirelli of Hirvonen performed much better than Michelin. Hirvonen won, Hänninen finished second.

In 2011 Hänninen was leading by over a minute when the epic tyre fail of Petter Solberg and both Škodas came in. Driving two long stages without winter tyres in a strong snowfall cost him over four minutes (Solberg lost five, Kopecký seven over those two stages). Hänninen attacked in the last day but he was missing few seconds to podium in finish. Bouffier won the rally without any SS win...

[AndyRAC]

I think MC 2011 was an 'epic fail' from Skoda. To put both drivers on the wrong tyres was incredible. However, apart from that Hanninen's performance on that event was pretty good.
We haven't seen the best from Juho in the WRC - give him a regular seat, then I'm sure we will. The bloke is a quick driver.

[RS]

It's a shame that it sounds as if Juho won't do Monte. He has always been quick there as Mirek explained. He even won a stage this year despite very little experience of his car, something which several of the contracted WRC drivers failed to do as far as I remember?

[ik1911]

I´m very happy with Hanninen in Hyundai RT, but in Monte 2nd car will drive a local boy BBouffier (correct choice if Hyundai have 2car in Monte)!

[Hartusvuori]

Monte Carlo 2011 - never forget.

[litifeta]

Totally disagree with the appraisal of Atkinson by others. He is a 'team' driver. Can be relied upon to get points for the team without wrecking the car by not following the game plan. He has proven last year he can bring home the piece of crap Mini for manufacturers points.

And while getting points for Mini also won the Asia Pacific championship. And when at Subaru when Solberg was failing he was told to step on the gas which resulted in podiums.

[sollitt]

Must be two Chris Atkinson's in the WRC. The one I remember had more crashes than McRae himself.

[N.O.T]

Atkinson has nothing to offer as a manufacturer driver anymore... he had his chances. It is good to see him in selected events since he is fast but his name is added in the neverbeens long time ago.

[nafpaktos]

I think chris took his chances to wrc and the results were lets say poor.i think giving juho a chance is absolutely fair.A driver with juho's titles deserves a full championsip engagement and( not some gravel events) in order to show his skills.thierry showed his potentials to his second year in the wrc with an experienced team and a reliable car.I refer this because some people might judje juhos performance in a rigorous way,if the results are not there outright.

@wiki-mirek
seriously how do you remember all these detaills?

[Mirek]

@wiki-mirek
seriously how do you remember all these detaills?

Because I was waiting for him on the stages where those disasters happened...

[WUff1]

Interesting that Hyundai didn´t announce the second driver for Monte by now. I suppose that means they have other options than local hero Bouffier already for Monte. If Sordo comes to Hyundai, there will be only Hänninen and Sordo for second car I suppose.

[makinen_fan]

According to Colin Clark on Twitter, Dani will drive in Monte the 2nd car

[Ucci]

IMHO Bouffier is the best 2.nd driver for MC-he also performed very good (2.nd place) in this year Jänner Rally, with mixed conditions.

[N.O.T]

IMHO Bouffier is the best 2.nd driver for MC-he also performed very good (2.nd place) in this year Jänner Rally, with mixed conditions.

against nobodies in nobodies cars...

[Andre Oliveira]

I think that the best option is:

Neuville
Sordo
+ Bouffier/Hänninen

[WUff1]

Don´t think that Bouffier will stay at Hyundai if Sordo comes, not even as a test driver.

[Mirek]

Why not? They need second parallel team to test the 2015 car. They can't do all WRC events and in the same time an extensive testing of new machine with just one team of drivers.

[Andre Oliveira]

Before the signing with Hyundai, i thought that Bouffier get DS3 WRC drive to next year. He deserves a WRC.

[focus206]

I would rather see Bouffier than Sordo on selected rounds with Hyundai... Sordo have had already all the chances he could have :\

[WUff1]

Well now with Sordo as second driver I think it´s possible that even Hänninen doesn´t get all gravel rallies, if he doesn´t performs very well at Sweden!

[tommeke_B]

against nobodies in nobodies cars...
The opinion of a ...

[tommeke_B]

Well now with Sordo as second driver I think it´s possible that even Hänninen doesn´t get all gravel rallies, if he doesn´t performs very well at Sweden!
Who said there will be only 2 cars all season?

[Ucci]

IMHO Bouffier is the best 2.nd driver for MC-he also performed very good (2.nd place) in this year Jänner Rally, with mixed conditions.

against nobodies in nobodies cars...

Kopecky in a works car, Baumschlager in semi-works car, both with Fabia, which is one class better than private pug.....

[RS]

Well now with Sordo as second driver I think it´s possible that even Hänninen doesn´t get all gravel rallies, if he doesn´t performs very well at Sweden!

I doubt it, he wasn't great on gravel this year.

[rage82]

I think also that Bouffier deserves the second seat on tarmac rounds. He has done a lot of work this year as a test driver, he's fast and need a chance to prove himself.

[pantealex]

Monte-Carlo 2013

3.Sordo +3.49

5.Bouffier +8.13

both with Citroen

4,5 minutes is too much...

OK, it was lottery, but...

[Mintexmemory]

Some points to bear in mind
Sordo is a WRC winner now on tarmac
If Hyundai aren't offering him a full season then he at least had the bargaining chip of 'tarmac includes MC'

So if Dani is now the Hyundai tarmac no 2 it must be fairly certain that his offer from Citroen was worse in terms of no of events.

It also must mean that Citroen are going to have a number of different No2s - Bouffier probably being one of them, which was probably the point of his DS3 entry on WRGB

[Mirek]

Monte-Carlo 2013

3.Sordo +3.49

5.Bouffier +8.13

both with Citroen

4,5 minutes is too much...

OK, it was lottery, but...

To be fair 2 minutes of those were spent in a snowbank and it was first ever event with WRC car for Bryan (and only)...

[Andre Oliveira]

Great comparation. An debutant and one driver with many years of WRC. I like Sordo, but this comparation are bad :vader:

[Mirek]

It's not bad. It shows where they were against each other in that moment. It's good to know the rest of the information but the most important thing is the result.

[makinen_fan]

I agree with Mirek. It shows what each one of them can deliver to Hyundai. Probably Bouffier has a lot more promise to develop in the future and be a better driver than Dani in terms of results. But at the moment Bouffier has experience of just a single rally with WRC car and I think it is too much risk for them to put him in No 2 seat.

[RS]

I agree with Mirek. It shows what each one of them can deliver to Hyundai. Probably Bouffier has a lot more promise to develop in the future and be a better driver than Dani in terms of results. But at the moment Bouffier has experience of just a single rally with WRC car and I think it is too much risk for them to put him in No 2 seat.

Good post.

I would hope for Sordo+Hanninen to share 2nd car; testing plus selected events in a third car for Bouffier so that he can develop.

[danon]

the reason why the T-Rex got upset... :bigcry:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8026/avxm.jpg

Hi-Res - http://imageshack.us/a/img593/2363/xtcm.jpg

[Kielder]

Sordo has signed for six rallies. If things go well, he might run more events. The announcement is about to be revealed (there's a delay because his co-driver hasn't been decided yet).
On the other hand, Sordo has rejected a last-hour offer from Citroen: a full season. However, he said no mainly because of the lack of testing.

[Mintexmemory]

Sordo has signed for six rallies. If things go well, he might run more events. The announcement is about to be revealed (there's a delay because his co-driver hasn't been decided yet).
On the other hand, Sordo has rejected a last-hour offer from Citroen: a full season. However, he said no mainly because of the lack of testing.
Carlos Del B not staying with DS? Strange after they seem such a good team together. Clearly the treatment at the end of 2013 season must have really pissed Dani off!

[er88]

Sordo has signed for six rallies. If things go well, he might run more events. The announcement is about to be revealed (there's a delay because his co-driver hasn't been decided yet).
On the other hand, Sordo has rejected a last-hour offer from Citroen: a full season. However, he said no mainly because of the lack of testing.

Cant understand hyundai running dani on gravel. Hanninen shouldve got all gravel rallies at least. Juho is also no slouch on tarmac either but guess hyundai maybe want sordos wrc experience...

[N.O.T]

[/i]

Sordo has signed for six rallies. If things go well, he might run more events. The announcement is about to be revealed (there's a delay because his co-driver hasn't been decided yet).
On the other hand, Sordo has rejected a last-hour offer from Citroen: a full season. However, he said no mainly because of the lack of testing.
Carlos Del B not staying with DS? Strange after they seem such a good team together. Clearly the treatment at the end of 2013 season must have really pissed Dani off!

what treatment ?

The lack of pre GB testing and the chassis cock-up , hard to find motivation when your own team sabotage your chances before the rally starts!

[RS]

Cant understand hyundai running dani on gravel. Hanninen shouldve got all gravel rallies at least. Juho is also no slouch on tarmac either but guess hyundai maybe want sordos wrc experience...

I guess it is more a case of "I'm not driving for you if I only do tarmac"

But I would be really shocked if he turned down the offer of a full season at Citroen, testing or not. I just don't believe any driver would turn that down.

[Co-driven]

Maybe he is thinking about the future.
Citroën hasn't got clear plans regarding the WRC from 2015 on, while Hyundai has at least a 3 year plan.

[WUff1]

Sordo has signed for six rallies. If things go well, he might run more events. The announcement is about to be revealed (there's a delay because his co-driver hasn't been decided yet).
On the other hand, Sordo has rejected a last-hour offer from Citroen: a full season. However, he said no mainly because of the lack of testing.

Cant understand hyundai running dani on gravel. Hanninen shouldve got all gravel rallies at least. Juho is also no slouch on tarmac either but guess hyundai maybe want sordos wrc experience...

That´s what I already predicted some days ago. I wouldn´t be suprised if Sordo also gets some gravel rallies instead of Hänninen. Yes, probably because of his WRC-experience

[Andre Oliveira]

Photoshop :D : https://www.facebook.com/autopista.es
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/994371_10151882648368952_1031116003_n.jpg

[bluuford]

LOLL.. these overalls are too big for him :-P

[stefanvv]

He seems not so sure about it :D :D

[Kielder]

Maybe he is thinking about the future.
Citroën hasn't got clear plans regarding the WRC from 2015 on, while Hyundai has at least a 3 year plan.

You're right. In the past, Sordo has already reduced his salary to drive some more events (Mini times...). No one handles more inside information than him, so if he decided that it's better to run a minimum of six events than a full season...

Citroën is desperate now. They only have got Meeke for the next season, their number 2 could be a big surprise. A fact is that Novikov rejected a partial program because he is looking for a full one. Imagine that the French team doesn't find anyone else (with money enough)...

In the end, for Matton the worst part of the story is to remember that Ogier and Neuville were Citroën drivers.

[RS]

In the end, for Matton the worst part of the story is to remember that Ogier and Neuville were Citroën drivers.

Lol, yeah. They are doing a great job developing drivers for VW and Hyundai.

[Juha_Koo]

Hyundai is apparently now testing in Lapland. (Nico Gilsoul Instagram pic)

[litifeta]

I do not understand Citroen at all. Maybe I am too far away from things, but they seem arrogant and disconnected. 9 times world champions, I would have expected them to release a car for buyers to celebrate that somewhat like a WRX or EVO. That awful DS3 attempt is a joke.

[Mirek]

I do not understand Citroen at all. Maybe I am too far away from things, but they seem arrogant and disconnected. 9 times world champions, I would have expected them to release a car for buyers to celebrate that somewhat like a WRX or EVO. That awful DS3 attempt is a joke.

You're talking like making a an Evo-like car was an easy goal for a manufacturer. It's not like that. It's even much more difficult task than to make a WRC - especially from financial aspects. Even if it was so good car like Evo it would still generate only a loss (at least gigantic investment) which the PSA in current situation can hardly afford.

[AMSS]

Hyundai is apparently now testing in Lapland. (Nico Gilsoul Instagram pic)
Yes I can confirm they are indeed in Finnish Lapland ;)

[wwbroe]

You know if there are any foto's or video's available of this testing in Lapland?

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus testing the i20Wrc at Rovaniemi !!!
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/statu ... 64/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/408997713787633664/photo/1)

GO MARCUS
http://planetemarcus.com/hyundai-motors ... la-i20wrc/ (http://planetemarcus.com/hyundai-motorsport-en-laponie-avec-la-i20wrc/)

[Andre Oliveira]

Great! Magic Marcus :bounce:

[Rallyper]

Videos please! :bounce:

[Andre Oliveira]

Kévin Abring tested today too.

[MartijnS]

Not today I think, he had a pricegiving in Paris.
But he has been testing the car already indeed!

[EightGear]

Apparently Abbring has been involved in the development of the car for a few months.

[noel157]

Marti back in the right hand seat with Sordo for 2014.

[Andre Oliveira]

Tomorrow, 11:00 A.M., LIVE: http://new.livestream.com/HyundaiEurope/ExperienceDay

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1459803_612678868798000_1685587921_n.jpg

[noel157]

Wonder if they'll have outside sponsors (Samsung, LG etc) or a plain factory livery?

[Andre Oliveira]

Electronic Arts

[noel157]

Thanks Andre.

[HarriK]

Wonder if they'll have outside sponsors (Samsung, LG etc) or a plain factory livery?

or maybe big other category firm...

[Mirek]

Alain Penasse said that they don't need any sponsors so I don't expect some huge banners all over the car.

[Dug83]

Don't forget http://new.livestream.com/HyundaiEurope/ExperienceDay

Looks like there on Michelin to http://t.co/En3OlhEHd0

[MartijnS]

Anybody who can see something about the 4th name on the window? :)

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 9539_n.jpg (http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1504079_657253587660547_267989539_n.jpg)

[noel157]

Anybody who can see something about the 4th name on the window? :)

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 9539_n.jpg (http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1504079_657253587660547_267989539_n.jpg)

Could start with a B or a C or it's an illusion.

[makinen_fan]

Anybody who can see something about the 4th name on the window? :)

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 9539_n.jpg (http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1504079_657253587660547_267989539_n.jpg)

This answers your question, from Hyundais twitter account

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbHU8WjIIAA-cSe.jpg

[litifeta]

TN, Dani, Juho and Atko on the press pack

[Mirek]

Don't forget http://new.livestream.com/HyundaiEurope/ExperienceDay

Looks like there on Michelin to http://t.co/En3OlhEHd0

Alain Penasse confirmed they would use Michelin in an interview few months back.

[Andre Oliveira]

Humm the car will be Red/Orange.

[noel157]

Imagine most of the people there are wondering when the food arrives...:)

[litifeta]

they fed them first. fully belly so you can doze off during the presentation

[noel157]

Hurry up, pull the sheet.
Hope the car is quicker than this.

[Bartek]

One question, Bouffier isn't good enough or his wallet is empty?? I don't think he is slower than Atko...

[RS]

Interested to hear the balance of events Hanninen/Sordo/Atkinson will do.

I'm really disappointed they've watered it down to three drivers; I thought Hanninen and Sordo would have been just fine.

[makinen_fan]

@voiceofrally
First thing I've learned? How to pronounce Hyundai! He-oon-day! Now go and practice!

Lol!! I always pronounced it like that and wondered why the British insist to pronounce it Hai-oon-dai... Now I am sure whos right :)

[Allyc85]

:o Well this is dull so far! Complete opposite to the VW launch in Monte Carlo!

[Miika]

Getting more and more convinced that in the end there is no car, nothing. Instead the four names listed will race in different events through a mobile app.

[Francis44]

:o Well this is dull so far! Complete opposite to the VW launch in Monte Carlo!

They are geting their money's worth, fine by me.

Plus some interisting facts about the brand which I wasn't familiar with. We have a Hyundai in the house and it has taken all the challenges he throw at him considerably better than most proper european brands which have to stop for check ups everytime we given them a rough push.