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stepunk
24th May 2012, 14:00
Homepage for 40th edition of San Marino Rally, 7th round of IRC: San Marino Rally - Sito in costruzione (http://www.rallysanmarino.com/default.asp?id=344)
Who can we expect at the start of this gravel event? Rumours that Paolo Andreucci (Peugeot 207 S2000) and Umberto Scandola (Skoda Fabia S2000) will be there!

Mirek
24th May 2012, 14:24
Maybe Paddon with Peugeot.

stepunk
24th May 2012, 14:39
Maybe Paddon with Peugeot.

Do you know something about Skodas (Mikkelsen, Kopecky, someone else...)?
It's my home IRC event (I live about 60 km from first day stages) and I hope to see a lot of action, even if this year we have less contenders in this serie. ;)

Mirek
24th May 2012, 15:08
I don't know but I guess Mikkelsen and Kopecký. I think Hänninen will be in Istanbul.

PLuto
24th May 2012, 15:33
It is too early, everything will depends on actual situation in their championships...

vino_93
26th May 2012, 15:07
who are official driver in Italy ?
Skoda Italia : Scandola, Signor ?
Peugeot Italia : Andreucci, Albertini ?

Mirek
26th May 2012, 15:10
I think only Scandola and Andreucci.

Carlo
1st June 2012, 21:53
Maybe Paddon with Peugeot.

This has been confirmed by Hayden Paddon on facebook, he will be driving for HRT Motorsport

noel157
3rd June 2012, 10:23
HRT are getting plenty of headlines all of a sudden. The more the merrier.

HRT motorsport
5th June 2012, 23:11
HRT motorsport on rally of San Marino with Paddon - Kennard on 207 S2000 afternoon a grate result with our evo X N4 now the joung chapion test our S2000 on gravel rally.

Fri
14th June 2012, 12:37
Germain Bonnefis will drive Peugeot Sport 207 S2000 on Rally Sanmarino:
: : RallySport.hu - Új bajnokot talált a Peugeot? : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/info/2012/06/06-14_irc_peugeot_bonnefis.html)

bluuford
19th June 2012, 18:44
Juha Salo will start with Fiesta S2000 car In San Marino. It is Pirelli supported drive.

RS
23rd June 2012, 21:39
When can we expect the entry list for San Marino?

And btw, is there a problem with thread view numbers on this forum updating. Ypres has been stuck on 5000 for weeks!

Bartolbia84
26th June 2012, 13:22
Scandola Skoda S2000

Tom206wrc
28th June 2012, 18:07
Looks like all the participants of TRT(italian gravel championship)decided to BOYCOTT the rally !! :mad: :mark:

Mirek
28th June 2012, 20:10
For what reason?

pucky54
28th June 2012, 20:32
when you look on TRT homepage, the rally is not even in the calendar!?!?

Mirek
28th June 2012, 20:52
Aha, that explains it :D

tolis
28th June 2012, 21:16
So, the rally counts neither for CIR nor for TRT. Only IRC then?
According to RALLYLINK - Il motore di ricerca del rally (http://www.rallylink.it/2012/calendari/cal_trt_2012.htm), the rally is included in the TRT championship with coefficient 1.5
According to the official website of TRT, TROFEO RALLY TERRA | sito ufficiale | Gli sterrati eugubini quarto round del Trofeo Terra (http://www.acisportitalia.it/TRT/) the rally is not included in the calendar.

pucky54
28th June 2012, 22:04
So, the rally counts neither for CIR nor for TRT. Only IRC then?
According to RALLYLINK - Il motore di ricerca del rally (http://www.rallylink.it/2012/calendari/cal_trt_2012.htm), the rally is included in the TRT championship with coefficient 1.5
According to the official website of TRT, TROFEO RALLY TERRA | sito ufficiale | Gli sterrati eugubini quarto round del Trofeo Terra (http://www.acisportitalia.it/TRT/) the rally is not included in the calendar.

And according to regulations of the rally it "only" counts for IRC.
That does not help to get a proper field together :(

Bartolbia84
29th June 2012, 07:37
The Rally of San Marino, will also be valid for TRT .... but almost surely, so yesterday a spokesman of the pilots, will be deserted, none of the Trophy race! Too close to San Crispino, only 5 days away between the two races ....

stepunk
29th June 2012, 10:17
It's the usual italian way of doing things (it seems to work only in football ;) )...
It makes no sense to put 2 important gravel rallyes on 2 consecutive weekends when we have 4 in the whole year. Furthermore, the most important one doesn't have validity for Italian Championship... And TRT validity is just a farce and I won't explain in this forum 'cause it's really embarassing!

HRT motorsport
29th June 2012, 21:59
HRT motorsport and Hayden Paddon Will be not on rally of San Marino, after the drammatic acident of Targa Florio Hrt motorsport decide to stop all next rallys and programs.
Ugo Zandonŕ

tolis
30th June 2012, 22:08
38 Entries: http://www.rallysanmarino.com/detail.asp?c=1&p=0&id=759
More foreigners than Italians! :D

RS
1st July 2012, 10:01
38 Entries: http://www.rallysanmarino.com/detail.asp?c=1&p=0&id=759
More foreigners than Italians! :D

Very poor. For the first time in a long time no Skoda Motorsport, no Andreucci.. Should be an easy win for Mikkelsen, curious to see how Basso will go on gravel though in the Fiesta RRC.

PLuto
1st July 2012, 11:50
I must say I am little bit surprised with the quality of entry list. Level in TRT is not so high in these years. I think it will be interesting event... Skoda Motorsport dont plan to do all events in IRC this year. Juho will start in same date on Bosphorus Rally (ERC), Jan is preparing for Rally Bohemia. There will be also other events where will be no Skoda Motorsport...

Juha_Koo
1st July 2012, 12:02
Interesting to see what Salo can do with a Fiesta... What is the nature of the stages? With a quick search, I didn't manage to find any onboards from last year.

Mirek
1st July 2012, 12:06
If I remember it's mostly smooth, hard, very twisty and narrow gravel.

Hartusvuori
1st July 2012, 14:07
So, no Kristian Sohlberg...

PLuto
1st July 2012, 17:18
No, Kristian will start on Rally Sibiu.

Hartusvuori
1st July 2012, 17:35
No, Kristian will start on Rally Sibiu.

That I knew, but he was suppose to drive two events. So perhaps that's cut down to just one or some other event added up.

PLuto
1st July 2012, 18:38
There will be other event...

RS
1st July 2012, 23:25
@RS: Easy win for Mikkelsen? Basso and Scandola are on the list as well...

I know but I think neither are as good on gravel as on asphalt. I hope to be pleasantly surprised. Andreas I think is still a better gravel driver than asphalt (on gravel I think he is faster than Juho, and it seems quite a good match for Ogier too)

Flodin could be capable of a podium here.

uranium
2nd July 2012, 08:59
on gravel I think he is faster than Juho
Like JML faster than Loeb. Often faster, but not through the whole stage. This is usual. Same for Mikkelsen

RS
2nd July 2012, 11:20
Like JML faster than Loeb. Often faster, but not through the whole stage. This is usual. Same for Mikkelsen

On Azores it was the other way.

tolis
4th July 2012, 21:40
Finally, the rally counts for TRT: TROFEO RALLY TERRA | sito ufficiale | Da domani il Rally San Marino (http://www.acisportitalia.it/TRT/)

Mirek
5th July 2012, 01:49
In the press release Miroslav Janota (driving ERC historic there) says the two legs are completely different. First day hard, smooth gravel but second day on places extremely rough especially for historic cars. In another article Dario D'Esposito says that only four kilometers of the stages are same with last year and that most of the route comes from the past.

Tom206wrc
5th July 2012, 14:41
The battle in 2WDs could be interesting ;)
If Citroën Italia had sent Simone Campedelli there would have had no trouble to guess the winner :p :

tolis
5th July 2012, 15:32
Hope all the best for the greek guy in the 2WD class!!! :D

bluuford
5th July 2012, 15:53
The battle in 2WDs could be interesting ;)
If Citroën Italia had sent Simone Campedelli there would have had no trouble to guess the winner :p :


Yeah.. only 14 cars in 2WD. if Kangur manages to keep his Honda in one piece, then there is no chance for the others. But Honda is pretty fragile on gravel...

tolis
5th July 2012, 17:01
@Bluuford: This is maybe the easiest weather forecast for you! Sun, sun and sun? :D

bluuford
5th July 2012, 17:50
@Bluuford: This is maybe the easiest weather forecast for you! Sun, sun and sun? :D

No.. There is the moon overnight :-P and some clouds tomorrow lunchtime. slightest possibility of rain as well. But not enough to change much on the gravel. Temperature is terrible.. something over +30..

darkstar
5th July 2012, 18:44
i think we also should have an eye on flodin, in ypres he was totally on the edge everywhere and i think gravel should suite him better.

RICARDO75
5th July 2012, 21:01
TESTS

Giandomenico Basso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2SIehyuSGBk)

Andreas Mikkelsen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNVTJM4Q_Q&feature=relmfu)

Matteo Gamba (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mas9xoomOIQ&feature=relmfu)

Umberto Scandola (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPO9SaQaBQ&feature=relmfu)

dimviii
5th July 2012, 21:33
40° Rally San Marino 2012 (IRC) - Shakedown - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztF16TpZhlM&feature=player_embedded#!)

tolis
5th July 2012, 22:19
Start list for tomorrow: Rally San Marino 2012 - List of crews authorised to start - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/rally-san-marino-2012/start-list/authorized-to-start/)
No Tomassini, Kondrakhin, Buscone and Philippedes.

RICARDO75
5th July 2012, 22:20
Results from shakedown?

tolis
5th July 2012, 23:24
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/483942_3661856059732_45706914_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539808_3661854099683_2060401178_n.jpg

RS
6th July 2012, 09:08
Does anyone know when Basso last rallied on gravel? I think it was quite a long time ago, unless he did something in Italy last year?

Mirek
6th July 2012, 09:57
Photos of Roman Kašpárek from shakedown

Autosport : IRC - Rally San Marino (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=64&id=1023&autor=25)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/8bea0c1b1a1d922763e8120d03b2e4be.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/5d6a66aacdc9e122f88ea45bb2702e38.jpg

Mirek
6th July 2012, 10:03
SS1 was canceled for historic ERC which was supposed to run first and clear the loose gravel. Don't know why...

Mirek
6th July 2012, 10:39
Bonnefis rolled, Salo and Flodin stood there.

Juha_Koo
6th July 2012, 10:44
Bonnefis rolled, Salo and Flodin stood there.

Both Salo and Flodin more than +3 minutes... Lets see what organizers do. Apparently not a roll, but a mechanical fault in the fuel system.

SS1 now cancelled...

Edit. LOL, weird to hear my own name in the rally radio :D

Mirek
6th July 2012, 10:54
Incredible mess now. Puskadi drove normally but Arai was told to do it in road more...

Mirek
6th July 2012, 11:22
Flodin out, engine overheating on the road section. Lost water from radiator...

RS
6th July 2012, 11:28
I guess they will have to give a notional time to most crews in SS1 then.

werner
6th July 2012, 12:35
Notional times (Basso) for all drivers except Bonnefis, stage 1.

Hartusvuori
6th July 2012, 13:05
Heavy thunder storm in the area, says Juha Salo.

Ucci
6th July 2012, 14:04
Did somebody noticed stage times of Historic drivers?? It is quite interesting: if you compare times from second stage, which was longer than 24 km, Basso was the fastest with 20:25,3, but on the other hand Italian legend Piero Liati with old Lancia 037 finished the stage in 22:31,8, which is at least quite impressive. That puts him between ''second league'' N4 drivers and surprisingly the second in 2WD class!!

Kalm
6th July 2012, 17:21
What happened to Kangur ?

bluuford
6th July 2012, 20:42
What happened to Kangur ?

Simple technical failiure. On the second stage steering rack bacame completely loose. So,it was impossible to drive and after the stage 2 they used some ropes to fix it, they managed to do it but were OTL when they reached to the service. Game over. Later they found that welding that was holding some kind of joint that keeps fixed the steering rack was uncorrect and it became disconnected on the stage:-(

No testing tomorrow, car goes to Romania for the next round.

RS
6th July 2012, 21:40
Good job by Basso, Scandola and Wiegand today but my feeling is that Mikkelsen will step up a gear tomorrow. We'll see but nice and close at the moment!

dimviii
6th July 2012, 21:48
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150944226388123.423482.46529348122&type=1

Ucci
6th July 2012, 21:50
Day one is over in San Marino, as expected Mikkelsen in the lead. Basso yust few second behind him-and this is a sensation! Speaking of Giandomenico Basso : with all the respect to him, especialy his driving skills on tarmac I will write something, which somebody of you will not like or will disagree-Basso was never top driver on gravel (he always admits that fact), he never won on gravel, and now he is suddenly fighting with IRC champion on this surface???!!! Hallo???!!! The reason must be his car. Reading Italian rally forum, Fiesta RRC is obviously faster than S2000 opposition. Or has better acceleration, more torque, better handling.....it doesn't matter, but Fiesta RRC is the Nb.1.
I do not belive in miracles-Basso did not drove on gravel two years so the reason is obviously...But anyway, it is always nice to see, that young Norwegian driver has a strong competitor to fight with....Waiting for day two.

RS
6th July 2012, 22:01
Day one is over in San Marino, as expected Mikkelsen in the lead. Basso yust few second behind him-and this is a sensation! Speaking of Giandomenico Basso : with all the respect to him, especialy his driving skills on tarmac I will write something, which somebody of you will not like or will disagree-Basso was never top driver on gravel (he always admits that fact), he never won on gravel, and now he is suddenly fighting with IRC champion on this surface???!!! Hallo???!!! The reason must be his car. Reading Italian rally forum, Fiesta RRC is obviously faster than S2000 opposition. Or has better acceleration, more torque, better handling.....it doesn't matter, but Fiesta RRC is the Nb.1.
I do not belive in miracles-Basso did not drove on gravel two years so the reason is obviously...But anyway, it is always nice to see, that young Norwegian driver has a strong competitor to fight with....Waiting for day two.

Basso is not bad on gravel (he did some reasonable drives in the Punto on gravel) but I agree he is better on tarmac. Gravel is where the RRC should excel with it's extra torque and traction on loose surfaces.. but I am still surprised at his pace vs. Mikkelsen because he hasn't driven on gravel for so long and never with this car.

darkstar
7th July 2012, 08:13
nice to see wiegand doing good times, even one scratch with a bit of luck :) i hope he can improve a little today, defenetly it looks like gravel is fitting him better. pretty uncommon for a german!

RS
7th July 2012, 10:55
Good time by Basso on SS7!

dimviii
7th July 2012, 11:03
Good time by Basso on SS7!

Basso on medium,while Mikkelsen at softs.Stage was tight and twisty.

Mirek
7th July 2012, 11:05
Day one is over in San Marino, as expected Mikkelsen in the lead. Basso yust few second behind him-and this is a sensation! Speaking of Giandomenico Basso : with all the respect to him, especialy his driving skills on tarmac I will write something, which somebody of you will not like or will disagree-Basso was never top driver on gravel (he always admits that fact), he never won on gravel, and now he is suddenly fighting with IRC champion on this surface???!!! Hallo???!!! The reason must be his car. Reading Italian rally forum, Fiesta RRC is obviously faster than S2000 opposition. Or has better acceleration, more torque, better handling.....it doesn't matter, but Fiesta RRC is the Nb.1.
I do not belive in miracles-Basso did not drove on gravel two years so the reason is obviously...But anyway, it is always nice to see, that young Norwegian driver has a strong competitor to fight with....Waiting for day two.

I think that You are right. RRC shall be strongest on slow gravel roads where traction from slow corners is crucial.

I think that it may make a interesting mix for next season if some top drivers will do rallies in three different platforms - 2.0 S2000, 1.6T S2000 and R5 from which it seems every one will have it's strongest points on different type of roads.

dimviii
7th July 2012, 11:25
Basso and Mikkelsen equal after day1 !!

tolis
7th July 2012, 11:33
Basso and Mikkelsen equal after day1 !!
Day 1??? Good morning Dim! Xipna re! :D

Mirek
7th July 2012, 11:34
Bonnefis won stage!

Fast Eddie WRC
7th July 2012, 12:07
Mikkelsen & Basso dead level after SS8 !

Good to have a close battle and with two different cars :)

wwbroe
7th July 2012, 12:09
Bonnefis won stage!

Yes, for sure great experience for him. Must give him a very good feeling. Basso and Mikkelsen on equal total time now. ;)

dimviii
7th July 2012, 12:21
Day 1??? Good morning Dim! Xipna re! :D

didnt take my coffee yet :p

Mirek
7th July 2012, 14:35
Zero again, incredible!

darkstar
7th July 2012, 15:17
what´s up with bonnefis now? after the service he´s pretty slow, messed up the setup maybe?

Mirek
7th July 2012, 15:30
According to the radio he damaged 3 tyres in his off on stage 9.

RS
7th July 2012, 16:26
Pretty tight going into the final stage!

darkstar
7th July 2012, 16:37
that´s going to be exiting! basso will give everything i guess, while mikkelsen should rather settle for 2nd to gain the points for irc. but as we know mikkelsen, i think he also will push to the max :D

Mirek
7th July 2012, 16:52
What a battle! I'm really happy both made it to the finish without crash :)

RS
7th July 2012, 16:52
Basso wins!

Fantastic drive by him. Not fair to say it was just a car advantage, the guy hasn't driven on gravel for 2 years and never with this car!

Who was the last real privateer to win on IRC?

tolis
7th July 2012, 16:53
Basso wins! :)

Mirek
7th July 2012, 16:54
Who was the last real privateer to win on IRC?

Al Attiyah on Cyprus 2010 I think

N.O.T
7th July 2012, 17:00
What a battle.... local knowledge prevails !!!

Fast Eddie WRC
7th July 2012, 17:10
Great to see a Ford win in the IRC !

Excellent performance by Basso and the Fiesta 1.6T against the Champion... lets hope there are many more battles like this.

werner
7th July 2012, 17:13
But for Mikkelsen could be difficult. Its his 4th (?) second place this year, and if only 8 results counting, it begins very soon that he only get + points if he win ...

Disaster for Tempestini ... with place 2 in production cup he can get 1st place overall in classification, but it seems he didnt finish the last stage.

EDIT: Tempestini finished, but he is third ... so Aigner continue in 1st place points overall.

Mirek
7th July 2012, 17:32
Puskadi crashed behind finish of last stage. Car is stuck and needs a tow truck...

HaCo
7th July 2012, 18:54
Great to see a Ford win in the IRC !

Excellent performance by Basso and the Fiesta 1.6T against the Champion... lets hope there are many more battles like this.

Funny, since Ford announced this week they consider a switch from Wrc to IRC.

Awesome for Basso, let's hope to see him back in IRC and I hope he can win CIR championship 2012!

Verstuurd van mijn ARCHOS 80G9 met Tapatalk

Mirek
7th July 2012, 19:29
Updated points: Autosport : Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.autosport.cz/souteze/bodovani.php?id=64&sk=269)

Jezdci = drivers
Značky = manufacturers
PC = production cup
RZ = SS wins

Ucci
7th July 2012, 20:06
Basso won, indeed. But each ember of this forum knows for himself, that this victory is a pure result of Fiesta RRC dominant torque compare to modest S2000 torque. It is no secret or even ofend to Giandomenico if we say, that he is yust an average gravel driver, not even to mention, that for the last two years he saw gravel yust on a beach enyoying the sun....I never said anything towards his skills on a tarmac, but if we take in consider all above mentioned fact, it is more than evident that he won thanks to the superior car. So from my side this time no congratulations for beating Mikkelsen with so obviously technical advantage. When he will defeat him&other top IRC drivers with the same material, than I will drink to that.

Mirek
7th July 2012, 20:18
I think that You are too harsh. Mikkelsen is full works driver while Basso is just a privateer. RRC may be better for such a kind of roads but rallying is always about a combination of men and machines. By such logic You can disparage 3/4 of all rally victories. In the end no car drives itself...

Why don't You use same arguments against Your favorite hero Felice Re?

bluuford
7th July 2012, 20:20
Updated points: Autosport : Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.autosport.cz/souteze/bodovani.php?id=64&sk=269)

Jezdci = drivers
Značky = manufacturers
PC = production cup
RZ = SS wins

Zero points for Peugeot!! When was the last time it happened in IRC? Sooner or later they are going to loose their second place to M-Sport if they continue like this.
Great rally :-)

Mirek
7th July 2012, 20:26
According to our tables it's Scotland 2009 (Meeke disqualified) and before it was Russia 2009.

Ucci
7th July 2012, 20:57
I think that You are too harsh. Mikkelsen is full works driver while Basso is just a privateer. RRC may be better for such a kind of roads but rallying is always about a combination of men and machines. By such logic You can disparage 3/4 of all rally victories. In the end no car drives itself...

Why don't You use same arguments against Your favorite hero Felice Re?

Do not mix two totally different series, Mirek. In IRC we have works drivers, fighting for every tenth of a second, S2000 cars are almost equal, drivers & codrivers have a huge responsibility as a lot of factory and sponsors mony is involved (as well as drivers careers, as they are young and the competition between them is relentless), they must squeeze maximum from their cars, they are forced to take risks, so if somebody comes and wins with obviously technical advantage, it simply not fair. It is true, Basso is not guilty if he tryed with this new concept, nobody knew what will be the outcome of this project, but this time he & team were lucky.
On the other hand TRA series is a pure private thing, Felice must pay for each tyre from his pocket (and so do others), he is driving for pure pleasure, drivers are never on the cars limits and with their driving knowledge is yust irrelevant, if Felice drives C4 (there were others who drove C4 in TRA), Focus 06&07, Xsara, ImprezaS14, new Fiesta WRC....Felice is simply a bit faster than others and I respect him as he insists on for so long in TRA.

RS
7th July 2012, 21:02
Basso won, indeed. But each ember of this forum knows for himself, that this victory is a pure result of Fiesta RRC dominant torque compare to modest S2000 torque. It is no secret or even ofend to Giandomenico if we say, that he is yust an average gravel driver, not even to mention, that for the last two years he saw gravel yust on a beach enyoying the sun....I never said anything towards his skills on a tarmac, but if we take in consider all above mentioned fact, it is more than evident that he won thanks to the superior car. So from my side this time no congratulations for beating Mikkelsen with so obviously technical advantage. When he will defeat him&other top IRC drivers with the same material, than I will drink to that.

When was the last time Basso drove a good gravel car?

Mirek
7th July 2012, 21:31
Do not mix two totally different series, Mirek. In IRC we have works drivers, fighting for every tenth of a second, S2000 cars are almost equal, drivers & codrivers have a huge responsibility as a lot of factory and sponsors mony is involved (as well as drivers careers, as they are young and the competition between them is relentless), they must squeeze maximum from their cars, they are forced to take risks, so if somebody comes and wins with obviously technical advantage, it simply not fair. It is true, Basso is not guilty if he tryed with this new concept, nobody knew what will be the outcome of this project, but this time he & team were lucky.
On the other hand TRA series is a pure private thing, Felice must pay for each tyre from his pocket (and so do others), he is driving for pure pleasure, drivers are never on the cars limits and with their driving knowledge is yust irrelevant, if Felice drives C4 (there were others who drove C4 in TRA), Focus 06&07, Xsara, ImprezaS14, new Fiesta WRC....Felice is simply a bit faster than others and I respect him as he insists on for so long in TRA.

Unfair? Unfair is to drive an illegal car (sadly that happens absolutely normally in rallying) not driving a car better for some conditions. That's rallying and always used to be rallying! If You think that car of for example Puskadi is same like car of Mikkelsen You are just naive...

tolis
8th July 2012, 10:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9k_9sHseQc

Wim_Impreza
8th July 2012, 11:40
On the other hand TRA series is a pure private thing, Felice must pay for each tyre from his pocket (and so do others), he is driving for pure pleasure, drivers are never on the cars limits and with their driving knowledge is yust irrelevant, if Felice drives C4 (there were others who drove C4 in TRA), Focus 06&07, Xsara, ImprezaS14, new Fiesta WRC....Felice is simply a bit faster than others and I respect him as he insists on for so long in TRA.

If Re is by far the best in TRA as you are saying, why Re crashed than so much with the Fabia WRC in 2007? When Re won with an Impreza WRC and a Fiesta WRC? Luca Pedersoli was faster than Re in the TRA events.

I agree with Mirek his posts.

Congratulations for Basso with a great win.

Wim_Impreza
8th July 2012, 11:44
When was the last time Basso drove a good gravel car?

Probably in 2007, when the Punto S2000 was competitive.

tolis
8th July 2012, 13:08
Highlights - Day 2 - Part 1: IRC 2012 - San Marino Rally (Italy) - Day 2 - Part 1/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0kE7NiFPo)
Highlights - Day 2 - Part 2: IRC 2012 - San Marino Rally (Italy) - Day 2 - Part 2/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOXI3iHCWSE)

Ucci
8th July 2012, 14:49
Probably in 2007, when the Punto S2000 was competitive.


And even back than he was regulary beaten (speaking for gravel, of course)by Andreucci with Evo9....

Ucci
8th July 2012, 14:59
If Re is by far the best in TRA as you are saying, why Re crashed than so much with the Fabia WRC in 2007? When Re won with an Impreza WRC and a Fiesta WRC? Luca Pedersoli was faster than Re in the TRA events.

I agree with Mirek his posts.

Congratulations for Basso with a great win.

Re crashed yust one that year-Rally Lanterna. All other retirements were due to technical failurs-speaking mildly, Fabia WRC was really crap......But no more discussion in IRC blog over internal Italian series.

rallyelee
8th July 2012, 19:32
my pics from San Marino on Rallyesportfotos (http://www.rallyesportfotos.de) online

reg. Jörg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/12sa76.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/12sa30.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/12sa83.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/12sa82.jpg

jolle1982
8th July 2012, 22:13
Pictures of Rally San Marino by Christian Riemer Online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/san_marino_001_1341779307.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/san_marino_07_1341779310.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/san_marino_33_1341779332.jpg

<<< Fotos Rally San Marino 2012 >>> (http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=136%3Asan-marino&Itemid=2)

Mirek
11th July 2012, 16:29
Great galleries of Martin Trdla. IRC: eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Rally di San Marino 2012 Martin Trdla (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=3945&fotograf=251) Historic: eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Historic San Marino Rally 2012 Martin Trdla (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=4193&fotograf=251)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/irc/sanmarinoirc/75.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/irc/sanmarino/20.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/irc/sanmarinoirc/73.jpg

jolle1982
11th July 2012, 17:33
Video Rally San Marino Best of Sepp Wiegand

Rally San Marino (IRC) #3 Wiegand/Gottschalk Skoda Fabia S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3EUpBESvY)

Juha_Koo
12th July 2012, 10:41
Nice video montage, best of Salo/Salminen.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKuNCDYZuWY

jolle1982
12th July 2012, 19:57
Video Rally San marino by rallyefreaks.de is online!!!

Rally San Marino 2012 (IRC) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyadzYLucis)

Plhus
22nd July 2012, 12:53
My photos:

ŠKODA rally club / 40. Rally San Marino 2012 (San Marino, RSM) (http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/sanmarino2012.htm)