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Sulland
10th May 2012, 15:16
Delecour is struggeling with the Megane so far!

Is the Twingo of Nicolas Romiguiere an Evo ?

PLuto
10th May 2012, 15:18
They had problems with timekeeping at the end of stage. I think times of Gassner and Breen are bad for one minute. We are now checking it.

Viking
10th May 2012, 15:28
Interesting how close the times are so far between 1.6T and S2000 NA.
We have 3 cars in 0.6 sec time gap.

PLuto
10th May 2012, 15:28
So it looks Craig has problems with driveshaft.

[Madeira-Rally]
10th May 2012, 15:28
According to rally radio Breen had broke a drive shaft.. hum

Tom206wrc
10th May 2012, 15:29
They had problems with timekeeping at the end of stage. I think times of Gassner and Breen are bad for one minute. We are now checking it.

One minute error means Breen has the 2nd best time ??? :confused:

Tom206wrc
10th May 2012, 15:30
]According to rally radio Breen had broke a drive shaft.. hum

:mark:

Tom206wrc
10th May 2012, 15:33
Hasn't SS3 started yet :confused:


Edit: OK I've seen SS3 was running...

dimviii
10th May 2012, 15:36
Basso jump
Basso en forme!!!! | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=446424168718360)

Viking
10th May 2012, 15:47
Andreas said before the rally that he would consentrate on the S2000 NA times and not the turbo cars.

But i guess when the helmet is on..... :)

EightGear
10th May 2012, 15:59
Campana... :o

Adler
10th May 2012, 16:00
good to see the new 207s are competitive again :)

Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2012, 16:11
Gutted for Breen.

A FONDO
10th May 2012, 16:14
quick question to the geeks

when you disconnect the front driveshaft ON S2000 CAR, how much torque do you have in the rear axle - same as before or all from the engine?

Mirek
10th May 2012, 16:14
All from the engine

eestlane
10th May 2012, 16:23
I am really imprest by Mikkelsen performance :=)

dimviii
10th May 2012, 16:28
Whats the problem with Guigou?

dimviii
10th May 2012, 16:34
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Gregor-y
10th May 2012, 16:35
Why is rally radio playing telephone waiting music behind the announcers?

dimviii
10th May 2012, 16:36
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541085_334895666578357_126042907463635_860444_4074 46630_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525474_334895393245051_126042907463635_860437_1980 566235_n.jpg

PLuto
10th May 2012, 17:53
Change of Mikkelsen's time on SS 2 by one second...

HaCo
10th May 2012, 17:55
Very nice, very tight :D

dimviii
10th May 2012, 17:58
208 r2, SS 1 - Pénitencier Coti - Agosta plage - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BYua4dfYOAE)

Bartek
10th May 2012, 18:20
After first stage i'm pretty sure that Basso deserves to drive full season in IRC, very good driving by Campana and Breen, little bit disappointed by Bouffier

Pinto
10th May 2012, 18:25
bad news for basso out


https://p.twimg.com/AsjM71UCAAAkr0T.jpg:large

https://p.twimg.com/AsjM71UCAAAkr0T.jpg:large

uranium
10th May 2012, 18:35
When did he off???

Pinto
10th May 2012, 18:39
not sure i think somthing happened on the road section

KKS
10th May 2012, 18:41
Oh noooo Giandomenico.... :(

KKS
10th May 2012, 18:42
not sure i think somthing happened on the road section

Again Sordo's friends are joking ?

Pinto
10th May 2012, 19:06
not sure i understand what your meaning

MJW
10th May 2012, 19:08
Does anyone know if Eurosport has day 1 report on tv tonight? - or link to stream of it?

dimviii
10th May 2012, 19:23
not sure i think somthing happened on the road section


Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/Iwanevans1973/status/200635511705042944/photo/1)

dimviii
10th May 2012, 19:35
nice photo
http://www.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2012/events/38_France/shakedown/big2/big2_campana_fra_05.JPG

Event Photos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/photogallery/list/id/38)

Pinto
10th May 2012, 19:35
look to have got the story now he collided with another motorist on a narrow road and damage his suspension

Abandon de Basso au Tour de Corse | Tour de Corse | Best-of-RallyLive (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/fr/2012/05/10/francais-abandon-de-basso-au-tour-de-corse/)

dimviii
10th May 2012, 19:43
So how did you saw for warm Corsica the Pirellis? Breen is also on Pirellis

KKS
10th May 2012, 19:48
not sure i understand what your meaning
Sordo friends part1 (Wales Rally GB2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGxs5FlKsGk

Sordo friends part2 (Tour de Corse)
https://p.twimg.com/AsjM71UCAAAkr0T.jpg

PLuto
10th May 2012, 19:56
(2 - Basso Giandomenico / Dotta Mitia): We were on a straight section when I noticed another car on the road coming in my direction,” said Basso. “I pulled to the side to avoid it but I hit a rock on the side of the road and this damaged something in the steering. I carried on for about 20 kilometres but there was damage also to a driveshaft and an engine.

Pinto
10th May 2012, 20:01
Sordo friends part1 (Wales Rally GB2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGxs5FlKsGk

Sordo friends part2 (Tour de Corse)
https://p.twimg.com/AsjM71UCAAAkr0T.jpg


ah yes i get you now lol

Barreis
10th May 2012, 20:04
Basso forced to retire from Corsica IRC thriller - News - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/news/detail/id/353)

RS
10th May 2012, 20:08
Really disappointed Basso is out as he was one of the strongest competitors for the victory. I guess now it is between Sordo and Mikkelsen. At least Basso could show his pace, but I wanted him to win!

Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2012, 20:16
Unbelievable - first Breen, now Basso :(

I wont be suprised if something happens to Sordo next and it becomes a one-horse race with Mikkelsen ....

dimviii
10th May 2012, 20:17
Unbelievable - first Breen, now Basso :(

I wont be suprised if something happens to Sordo next and it becomes a one-horse race with Mikkelsen ....

from such a situation the lucky is other driver,not Mikkelsen..

Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2012, 20:24
Does anyone know if Eurosport has day 1 report on tv tonight? - or link to stream of it?

Nothing on ES til the live stages tomorrow.

Some highlights of Day 1 here: Event Videos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/list/id/38)

userwave
10th May 2012, 20:28
Having been in Corsica last October, I can attest, the roads are SUPER narrow, this is a real shame


look to have got the story now he collided with another motorist on a narrow road and damage his suspension

Abandon de Basso au Tour de Corse | Tour de Corse | Best-of-RallyLive (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/fr/2012/05/10/francais-abandon-de-basso-au-tour-de-corse/)

Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2012, 20:37
Decent vid from Shakedown:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCGzm6P5eU

Tom206wrc
10th May 2012, 20:39
(2 - Basso Giandomenico / Dotta Mitia): We were on a straight section when I noticed another car on the road coming in my direction,” said Basso. “I pulled to the side to avoid it but I hit a rock on the side of the road and this damaged something in the steering. I carried on for about 20 kilometres but there was damage also to a driveshaft and an engine.



What an unluck and a disaster :(

uranium
10th May 2012, 21:12
(2 - Basso Giandomenico / Dotta Mitia): We were on a straight section when I noticed another car on the road coming in my direction,” said Basso. “I pulled to the side to avoid it but I hit a rock on the side of the road and this damaged something in the steering. I carried on for about 20 kilometres but there was damage also to a driveshaft and an engine.

Just curious what was the speed? Exactly as it is predicted by road rules? :|

RS
10th May 2012, 21:13
SS8 doesn't appear to be showing on British Eurosport tomorrow. What about elsewhere? Can I expect to see it on Eurosport Player?

focus206
10th May 2012, 21:14
Too bad for Breen and expecially Basso :(

PLuto
10th May 2012, 21:58
Start list into day 2 - Tour de Corse 2012 - Start order - leg 2 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/tour-de-corse-2012/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=196)

rallye-vid
10th May 2012, 22:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X53l-eUdyQ

PLuto
10th May 2012, 22:32
Have you noticed, that after first three stages we have four different winners? (from four different countries on four different cars)...

PLuto
10th May 2012, 22:42
Photos from first leg by Roman Kasparek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13801)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/d5c68d0fd82f4f4b07d77447a4aa0b30.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/5773c6c51fb5c5ead6bccb428af98902.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/0cdcfe8f31be4d37548867f6c34d31df.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/943b77fcfe5d9a0b0f8f584dcbaad26d.jpg

focus206
10th May 2012, 22:51
any pics of Delecour's Megane? :)

PLuto
10th May 2012, 23:04
http://www.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2012/events/38_France/day1/big2/big2_delecour_fra_12.JPG

focus206
10th May 2012, 23:22
Thanks PLuto :up:

Jafry
11th May 2012, 06:31
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1013/1013_tour_de_corse_2012_545d08a85f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1013/1013_tour_de_corse_2012_9e5b1224da.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1013/1013_tour_de_corse_2012_c751c4cf32.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1013/1013_tour_de_corse_2012_c7543613e2.jpg

More photos from Corsica HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1013)

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 07:37
Good morning guys, first stage of the day is live now. Pitty Basso couldn't restart after yesterday's accident. Looking forward to hopefully big battle. ;)

PLuto
11th May 2012, 07:42
Jafry, why you are puting here official photos from Corse (and with foreign logotype)?

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 07:51
Maurin fastest trough sofar in 16.50.1

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 07:53
Bouffier is a lot faster 16.27.6

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 07:54
Kopecky is even faster 16.21.8 , he is angry because they haved moved FF-line

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 08:32
Fastest time for Mikkelsen, extending his lead a little bit compared to Sordo.

Viking
11th May 2012, 08:43
Seems like the Skodas had the upper hand on this medium fast stage (Mikkelsen 101.18km/h),
Sordo was 0.20 s/km slower, Overall Sordo is 0.07s/km slower than Mikkelsen and 0.20 s/km faster than Kopecký.

RS
11th May 2012, 09:23
I guess Kopecky would have won that one if he hadn't slowed down early.

RS
11th May 2012, 09:48
To my friends in mainland Europe, are you getting SS8 live too? It's not on Eurosport UK.

Francis44
11th May 2012, 09:51
To my friends in mainland Europe, are you getting SS8 live too? It's not on Eurosport UK.

It's supposed to start in 8 minutes, nothing on yet.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 09:54
Good time by Breen to be 5th..

RS
11th May 2012, 10:07
It's supposed to start in 8 minutes, nothing on yet.

Yes, I have SS5 on now, but SS8 is supposed to be live too. But it seems it is not in the UK.

rp
11th May 2012, 10:14
Eurosport LIVE stream:

Watch British Eurosport live Streaming Online Free From uk (http://www.onlinetvjunction.com/view/212/Watch-British-Eurosport-live-Streaming-Online-Free-From-uk.html)

Bartek
11th May 2012, 10:32
Mikkelsen in troubles i think! Mikkels was out of the road

Onboards are amazing, guys have big balls :)

MartijnS
11th May 2012, 10:47
Hit a pole and had to change a puncture, but the car jack went down every time they pumped it up.

Livewireshock
11th May 2012, 10:54
Bad luck to Andreas but the coverage was great. I enjoyed the smaller picture for the interviews so they did not have to cut away from the cars still running on stage.

Francis44
11th May 2012, 10:56
Good coverage, I still think it wont do them harm to put 1 or 2 cameras along the stage.

dimviii
11th May 2012, 11:03
IRC Tour de Corse 2012 ES1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dVARWMvWIQc)

alleskids
11th May 2012, 11:04
first live SS stage inIRC for a while, and they mis the leader of the rally going off and having to change wheel? :down:

nice to have a Mini in the lead :up:

Kielder
11th May 2012, 11:04
I also missed cameras along the stage, but we were lucky to see the helicopter's images. The ones of the cars through the town were the best.

dimviii
11th May 2012, 11:05
photos
https://picasaweb.google.com/112698996644681723211/RallyeTourDeCorseIRC2012#

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 11:13
Some great shots from the helicopter (finally) and what amazing scenery and roads. Driving heaven !

Shame we lost the fight for the win now with Mikkelsen's off :(

Another superb run from Breen though :)

Mirek
11th May 2012, 11:35
I also missed cameras along the stage, but we were lucky to see the helicopter's images. The ones of the cars through the town were the best.

They have never used ground cameras except start and finish with the only exception being Col de Turini.

RS
11th May 2012, 11:41
Real shame about Mikkelsen and Basso as the fight is a bit more dull now. Hope Kopecky can step up a gear!

A FONDO
11th May 2012, 11:47
Nothing unexpected. You cant drive over the limit all the time and rely on incredible luck to finish. Thats why yesterday I said dont hurry to make conclusions from one or two stages.

RS
11th May 2012, 12:03
Nothing unexpected. You cant drive over the limit all the time and rely on incredible luck to finish.

Tell Latvala :)

Looks like Andreas will have to wait a little longer for his first tarmac win.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 12:18
Cars at re-group:

https://p.twimg.com/Asm9QiaCAAAgt6S.jpg

Mirek
11th May 2012, 12:21
Tell Latvala :)

Looks like Andreas will have to wait a little longer for his first tarmac win.

Funny last year his event went same way...

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 12:46
Bouffier looks way more confortable in the car today :)

[Madeira-Rally]
11th May 2012, 12:59
Tell Latvala :)

Looks like Andreas will have to wait a little longer for his first tarmac win.

he already won a tarmac event in spain...

Mirek
11th May 2012, 13:00
Bouffier said he has been suffering some breathing problems in last couple of days and that he isn't fit enough for long stages.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 13:18
I expect Breen to climb 9th overall after the three coming stages in the afternoon ;)
I would wish more :D but ahead is Mikkelsen and the fast top5... :mark:

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 13:19
Bouffier said he has been suffering some breathing problems in last couple of days and that he isn't fit enough for long stages.



Oh no :(

Mirek
11th May 2012, 13:43
According to quote of Andreas and Ola for Autosport.cz it was a serious crash with lucky result. They hit a telegraph pole by co-drivers door but fortunately the pole broke (probably something like Attkinson in Ireland few years back).

dimviii
11th May 2012, 13:49
ss6 live.Lets see how fast Mikkelsen can climb.

Kielder
11th May 2012, 13:50
They have never used ground cameras except start and finish with the only exception being Col de Turini.

Eurosport used more ground cameras than the Turini's one. At least in some edition at St Bonnet's stage (before the bridge of the mid stage, in the wood) and last year, when we saw the cars going up Col du Gaudissart.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 13:51
Vid of Mikkelsen explaining incident: iRally | The free independent Rally App for the iPhone, iPad and Android (http://www.irallylive.com/ir_vid.htm?00000150)!

Francis44
11th May 2012, 13:52
Plus I think they used some in Scotland too two years back, however it's nicer to have coverage than no cover at all so thanks to Eurosport.

Wim_Impreza
11th May 2012, 13:54
According to quote of Andreas and Ola for Autosport.cz it was a serious crash with lucky result. They hit a telegraph pole by co-drivers door but fortunately the pole broke (probably something like Attkinson in Ireland few years back).

After the Ireland crash and the lucky result there, is he the new Loeb who is almost always lucky?

Mirek
11th May 2012, 13:55
Eurosport used more ground cameras than the Turini's one. At least in some edition at St Bonnet's stage (before the bridge of the mid stage, in the wood) and last year, when we saw the cars going up Col du Gaudissart.

Really? I somehow missed that. Thanks anyway

Kielder
11th May 2012, 13:55
Plus I think they used some in Scotland too two years back, however it's nicer to have coverage than no cover at all so thanks to Eurosport.

That's the point. The only coverage similar to this in the WRC this year was the one that the RTP did during the Portuguese rally.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 13:56
Hope for another great time from Breen ... :)

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/news/full_Sainteloc-207-Day-1-Tour-de-Corse.jpg

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 13:58
After the Ireland crash and the lucky result there, is he the new Loeb who is almost always lucky?

Loeb's career has nothing to do with luck, he just is that good. And who knows, maybe Andreas will be his successor performance wise. We will see next year when he is driving VW?

Kielder
11th May 2012, 14:06
Really? I somehow missed that. Thanks anyway

You're welcome. I can remember it because I was very surprised when I saw the St Bonnet's one (the point where it was placed didn't tell anything) and the second one because the commentators of Spanish Eurosport thought that it was the helicopter camera, which was impossible with the last year conditions in St Jean in Royans.

Sorry you for the off topic ;) .

Mirek
11th May 2012, 14:11
I have to admit I didn't see either one of those you mentioned because in both cases I was there live. Next time I shall watch those after the rally :)

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 14:22
Result of Mikkelsen's off :D

https://p.twimg.com/Asnf4lxCMAA2Wz3.jpg

Mirek
11th May 2012, 14:27
This is very dangerous kind of accident. Not only for the crew but also for spectators if they stand under the power lines. I remember there was a deadly accident of that type in Dutch championship when Gert Huzink crashed into an electric pole and the electricity killed a another driver who was there spectating...

11th May 2012, 14:28
Live coverage is awesome!

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 14:29
Watching on Eurosport there were people sitting in chairs under an umbrella right by the road,
this was just a few 100m after this place !

Crazy.

Mirek
11th May 2012, 14:29
Live coverage is awesome!

I believe but we are not allowed watching TV at work :(

Kielder
11th May 2012, 14:36
Another scratch for Sordo in SS6. Let's hope his car won't break down.
We've lost a great fight against Basso and Andreas.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 14:36
I expect Breen to climb 9th overall after the three coming stages in the afternoon ;)
I would wish more :D but ahead is Mikkelsen and the fast top5... :mark:



Even better !!! In one stage he climbed 8th overall, and I guess Manzagol will lose quickly his 7th position to Craig ;)

Viking
11th May 2012, 14:38
Flřene explains off

“It was one corner in the pacenotes out of many, many corners that we were a tiny bit too fast,” said Flřene. “It’s very sad because we were steady, driving well with no mistakes but this is the IRC and things like this normally can happen. This rally is longer than normal IRC rallies so I think we can catch back some time, make some places and maybe get some good points. That’s one thing we can do now.”

RS
11th May 2012, 14:40
I believe but we are not allowed watching TV at work :(

I am lucky I am self employed so Rally Radio is on and SS8 may be on Eurosport Player later :)

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 14:40
Guglielmi's Clio R3 in fire on SS6 !!! :s

MartijnS
11th May 2012, 14:43
This is very dangerous kind of accident. Not only for the crew but also for spectators if they stand under the power lines. I remember there was a deadly accident of that type in Dutch championship when Gert Huzink crashed into an electric pole and the electricity killed a another driver who was there spectating...

It was at a regional rally in Belgium, but indeed happened.

Mirek
11th May 2012, 14:45
Guglielmi's Clio R3 in fire on SS6 !!! :s

Another battle for victory is over too soon :(


It was at a regional rally in Belgium, but indeed happened.

Thanks for correction.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 15:13
Hey !!! Guigou off road in SS6 :eek:

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 15:16
New stunning time for Campana reducing gap with Kopecky by less than one second after SS7 !!! :)

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 15:27
Really refreshing to have Mini and 207s regularly beating the Skoda's for a change...
Pity the Basso Fiesta wasnt still running.

A FONDO
11th May 2012, 15:28
Good fight for third place between the frenchmen, lets hope it will be decided by driving only.

Kielder
11th May 2012, 15:40
Sordo's doing the "Loeb rally" :D , with his rivals having accidents or can't follow his pace.

The last Sordo's victory with a non-Citroen car was in 2003. To win this rally would be great for him. It's not the same than win a WRC event, but I'd rather win this rally than the WRC in Alsace, for example.

mm1
11th May 2012, 15:45
Sordo's doing the "Loeb rally" :D , with his rivals having accidents or can't follow his pace.

The last Sordo's victory with a non-Citroen car was in 2003. To win this rally would be great for him. It's not the same than win a WRC event, but I'd rather win this rally than the WRC in Alsace, for example.

And with a Citroen not much victories either :)

Kielder
11th May 2012, 15:56
And with a Citroen not much victories either :)

Yeah, only Spanish Championship events with a C2 S1600 (everyone on tarmac) and "training events" with the C4.

Kielder
11th May 2012, 16:15
Nice place for recording:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWbr--R_w-s&feature=g-all-u

Livewireshock
11th May 2012, 16:20
The enforced extended regroup in order to suit live TV coverage is not brilliant. Surely even a super special or something could have been programmed into this long gap?????

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 16:21
Is this Nikara's debut on tarmac or did he do other rally's on asfalt. He still has to learn on this surface if you compare his times with Aigner's.

dimviii
11th May 2012, 16:22
Second leg (Part 1) - 2012 IRC Tour de Corse - Best-of-RallyLive - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kiX8pO72N0o)

Mad cat jnr
11th May 2012, 16:26
Is this Nikara's debut on tarmac or did he do other rally's on asfalt. He still has to learn on this surface if you compare his times with Aigner's.

He did 2 or 3 rallies in the uk in a R2 car

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 16:27
He did 2 or 3 rallies in the uk in a R2 car

Ok, thanks for the information ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 16:33
Britsh Eurosport do not appear to be showing SS8 live :(

Is it still listed on other ES channels elsewhere ?

EightGear
11th May 2012, 16:35
No but IRC's twitter is saying it will be Live. And Martin Haven said it too this morning.

Livewireshock
11th May 2012, 17:08
Bugger, only select Eurosport channels!!!!

Livewireshock
11th May 2012, 17:13
Why are Eurosport showing a repeat of ITU triathalon from Sydney instead of showing the live stage? It is currently well past 2am and Sydney is dark and asleep. Can not see the sense in this scheduling?

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:16
There's been a rescheduling. I don't know why :confused: .

A FONDO
11th May 2012, 17:16
Just look how Eurosport broadcasts its own product and imagine what would have done with WRC :mad:

EightGear
11th May 2012, 17:17
Bloody tennis......

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 17:21
Checked everywhere, no ES streams showing the IRC... :(

Even rally radio still playing 'music' ...

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 17:34
Kopecky is 4 sec faster as Bouffier on this last stage of the day.

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:35
IRCRally ‏ @IRCRally (http://twitter.com/#%21/IRCRally) SS8 - Split 1 / 3 km: @DaniSordo (http://twitter.com/#%21/DaniSordo), Bouffier +1, Arzeno and Campana +2, Kopecky +5, Wiegand +6

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:36
Times are long to come(after four first crews) :confused:

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:37
Arzeno stopped in the stage. Back on road behind Sordo, who started 4 min later than him.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:37
Where's Arzéno ??? :(

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:38
Arzeno stopped in the stage. Back on road behind Sordo, who started 4 min later than him.


Off road or puncture :confused:

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 17:39
Anyone got TV or radio of SS8 ?

Edit - got Radio :)

RS
11th May 2012, 17:42
I'm watching on Eurosport player. Mikkelsen has problems.

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:42
Off road or puncture :confused:

I took it from twitter. I can't hear the radio. It looks like some kind of technical problems (too much time for a puncture:confused :) .

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:44
Here it's the explanation:
SS8 - Arzeno 20.06.0: "Puncture in front. We stopped to change the wheel. But we have another problem with the diff."

wwbroe
11th May 2012, 17:45
Mikkelsen also loosing quite a lot of time 1min17

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:47
Here it's the explanation:
SS8 - Arzeno 20.06.0: "Puncture in front. We stopped to change the wheel. But we have another problem with the diff."


OK, no retirement for him and can still run tomorrow then ;)

Kielder
11th May 2012, 17:47
Mikkelsen also loosing quite a lot of time 1min17

Another puncture for him after hitting something.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:48
No time for McCormack yet :confused:

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:51
The stage is neutralised I think...

Because of Mattei's car ??? But some drivers behind him could finish stage :confused:

Hartusvuori
11th May 2012, 17:55
Is this Nikara's debut on tarmac or did he do other rally's on asfalt. He still has to learn on this surface if you compare his times with Aigner's.

I can't remember any other tarmac entry for Nikara other than Catalunya in his PSD year in 2009.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 17:55
OK stage definitely stopped :mark: gutted for Breen who should get a big notional time... :(

Kielder
11th May 2012, 18:04
Time of all drivers behind Mattei could change:

ŠKODA UK Motorsport ‏ @SKODAMotorsport (https://twitter.com/#%21/SKODAMotorsport) Possibility of all drivers affected by Mattei's fire (Including Andreas) to be given a nominal time. Waiting on news from the organisers.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 18:21
Also Arzeno's very poor time ??? :confused:

Kielder
11th May 2012, 18:23
Which means all times should change, as Mattei was first on the road? ;)

I didn't follow the TV live. Maybe the fire didn't start when the first cars reached him through the stage. It was my mistake to write "behind". It's sure that Andreas will be given another time because the yellow flag was shown on stage while he was running it.

Wim_Impreza
11th May 2012, 18:46
This is very dangerous kind of accident. Not only for the crew but also for spectators if they stand under the power lines. I remember there was a deadly accident of that type in Dutch championship when Gert Huzink crashed into an electric pole and the electricity killed a another driver who was there spectating...

That happened in the regional Rallye de Hannut 2009 in Belgium and it wasn't a round for the Dutch championship.

RS
11th May 2012, 18:52
Mikkelsen's moment on SS5: IRC CORSICA SS5 BIG FRIGHT FOR MIKKELSEN - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id/407/id_event/38)

Wim_Impreza
11th May 2012, 18:53
I can't remember any other tarmac entry for Nikara other than Catalunya in his PSD year in 2009.

Nikara did the British Rally Championship in 2010. See here: eWRC-results.com - profile Jarkko Nikara (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2109) I even have a postcard of him in the Jim Clark Rally 2010 with a Renault Twingo R2.

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 18:55
First notional times coming ;) Breen +16" :confused:

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2012, 19:10
Breen now 7th overall .. 0.1sec behind 6th place Manzagol :)

secalez
11th May 2012, 19:15
IRC Tour de Corse 2012 ES8 Mattei on fire - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HqatINmR5OQ)

Tom206wrc
11th May 2012, 19:19
Breen now 7th overall .. 0.1sec behind 6th place Manzagol :)


Only 10" behind Mikkelsen...but the Norwegian looks faster on this event until now :mark:

Kielder
11th May 2012, 19:38
IRC Tour de Corse 2012 ES8 Mattei on fire - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HqatINmR5OQ)

Bad remembrances to see a rally car on fire in a Corsican stage. :(

Hartusvuori
11th May 2012, 19:44
Is this first time a Fabia S2000 burns so badly?

PLuto
11th May 2012, 23:37
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_abd1778af11c00a52efabaad1e968f62.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_0a56282c4b26856481f8e2c1e84be362.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_5730426a2a6cd4c0452f6dc97945770a.jpg

dimviii
11th May 2012, 23:47
Arzeno slide-Simulcam Sordo vs Kopecky videos
Event Videos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/list/id/38)

Plan9
12th May 2012, 00:41
Any youtube footage of the days highlights?

RS
12th May 2012, 05:34
Arzeno slide-Simulcam Sordo vs Kopecky videos
Event Videos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/list/id/38)

Simulcam is brilliant there! Mini seems better under braking but Kopecky pulls away quicker, quite surprisingly.

bluuford
12th May 2012, 07:41
Mikkelsen also loosing quite a lot of time 1min17

Looks very interesting rally.. what the hell Mikkelsen was thinking of when passing car that is in flames. He should have stopped and lend his small fire-extinguisher. The car was badly in flames but it should be non-written rule that when someone is in trouble with fire you should stop and help as much as possible. Sad.

VFTS
12th May 2012, 08:35
Looks very interesting rally.. what the hell Mikkelsen was thinking of when passing car that is in flames. He should have stopped and lend his small fire-extinguisher. The car was badly in flames but it should be non-written rule that when someone is in trouble with fire you should stop and help as much as possible. Sad.

There must have been 5-6 cars passing him, not only Mikkelsen. And if you see on the video Mattei and his co-driver are just trying to reduce Mikkelsens speed in the curve. If they had needed help they had stopped him. A small fire-extinguisher couldnt have done anything at that moment, the car was already all covered in flames.

dimviii
12th May 2012, 08:53
There must have been 5-6 cars passing him, not only Mikkelsen. And if you see on the video Mattei and his co-driver are just trying to reduce Mikkelsens speed in the curve. If they had needed help they had stopped him. A small fire-extinguisher couldnt have done anything at that moment, the car was already all covered in flames.

+1 the status of fire we saw at video can t be quench with fire extinguishers carying the cars.It was too late unfortunately.

dimviii
12th May 2012, 09:10
some new photos
Event Photos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/photogallery/list/id/38)

Mad cat jnr
12th May 2012, 09:13
Looks very interesting rally.. what the hell Mikkelsen was thinking of when passing car that is in flames. He should have stopped and lend his small fire-extinguisher. The car was badly in flames but it should be non-written rule that when someone is in trouble with fire you should stop and help as much as possible. Sad.

I totally agree, I was fuming that all the cars carried on and didnt stop to help. Not so much Mikkleson but the 1st car on the scene should of stopped to help because it cant of been that bad when the 1st car arrived.

RS
12th May 2012, 09:25
Good stage by Kopecky, keep pushing Honza!

DIMI44
12th May 2012, 09:36
Ι think that it was better for Mikkelsen to stop for a minute.Just to say "I feel with you but i can't be much help otherwise." Nothing else.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 09:43
Good stage by Kopecky, keep pushing Honza!


Please Campana and Bouffier, react in SS10 !!! :(

tolis
12th May 2012, 09:45
Jarkko Nikara retired IRC Corsica on SS9, gearbox broken! :(

Barreis
12th May 2012, 09:48
Ircseries webpage is much better then wrc.com.

RS
12th May 2012, 09:49
Nobody has mentioned McCormack.... Ok, he's not exactly setting the world on fire but his times are not too bad considering he is on his first event with S2000 and on Hankook tyres.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 09:57
And nobody mentionned Jean-Marc Manzagol for his first outing in S2000/4WD after long absence of rally scene neither ;)

piquet20
12th May 2012, 10:01
f..... eurosport!

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 10:07
Strange: on Patricksoft they write Matthieu Arzeno got 1'50 penalty for being 11' late, but on Rally-Base no penalty for him at all !!! Who's right :confused:

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 10:12
Once again, Eurosport sack lives of other motorsports(if not F1 or MotoGP) ???? :mad:

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:17
Watch Live Eurosport Stream Online Free TV Vivo Broadcast Links Channel Feed P2P 118524 (http://www.usagoals.com/live/118524-eurosport/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/)

tolis
12th May 2012, 10:17
Was it anything scheduled for Eurosport? According to TV Coverage - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/tv_coverage/country/GRC) live stages will be in the afternoon...

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 10:22
So we will have no live news during the 28km of SS10 ??? :rolleyes:

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:26
Little off for Breen in the live TV!

tolis
12th May 2012, 10:26
Small off for Breen!

RS
12th May 2012, 10:26
Small off for Breen.

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:28
Bouffier fastest for the moment in the 3km split.

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:30
Above link is for German Eurosport, here is avaliable in English: Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Day Two Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/51529/2/intercontinental-rally-challenge---day-two--live-stream-online.html)

RS
12th May 2012, 10:35
Kopecky too slow if splits are correct :(

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 10:36
I can see the live stage on Eurosport TV, Breen hit some rock but was attacking like hell. Bouffier and Kopecky loosing quite a lot of time after 7 kms, Campana fastest sofar at that point.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 10:47
FANTASTIC CAMPANA !!!!!! :bounce:

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:47
First Basso, then Andreas, now also Kopecky out of the fight :( .

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 10:48
Besttime for Campana, 0.7 sec faster as Sordo. Kopecky is loosing a lot of time on this one.

Kielder
12th May 2012, 10:49
It looks like Sordo has increased his pace this stage to say Kopecky he has no chance to win.

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 10:51
It looks like Sordo has increased his pace this stage to say Kopecky he has no chance to win.

I think it is Kopecky who didn't do good time on this stage, see also times of Campana, Bouffier and Mikkelsen, all beating him by nearly 15 sec.

RS
12th May 2012, 10:53
I think Kopecky doesn't like these narrow twisty stages. He lost 12s in the first 2 splits but only 4 more in the rest of the stage when it opened up.

tolis
12th May 2012, 10:55
Kopecky his comment at the finish: "Some people just know the stage very very well", doesn't really explain why he lost so much...
Is he saying that local Campana did illegal recce? :D

Jordib
12th May 2012, 11:00
Above link is for German Eurosport, here is avaliable in English: Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Day Two Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/51529/2/intercontinental-rally-challenge---day-two--live-stream-online.html)

Thanks Kielder ;)

Kielder
12th May 2012, 11:07
The point is that Kopecky was pushing hard to catch Sordo, but now he will fight for the second place against Campana.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 11:17
Kopecky his comment at the finish: "Some people just know the stage very very well", doesn't really explain why he lost so much...


Yep, I don't think Mikkelsen or Bouffier know the roads that much compared to him :rolleyes:

Kielder
12th May 2012, 11:20
The more positive thing is that the Skodas are being beaten by a Mini and a Peugeot (also Basso was able to beat them). It's true that one of the best tarmac drivers and a Corsican are driven them, nevertheless these are good news for the Championship.
Please Mini give a car to Meeke for the IRC!


Thanks Kielder ;)

Greetings. ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
12th May 2012, 11:26
Shame about the off for Breen, he was setting a great time up to that point.

It is a very steep learning curve for him though on events like this.

But he has the speed... and as the saying goes, 'Its easier to make a fast driver consistant, than to make a consistant driver fast !' ... :)



BTW, amazing scenery again, what a place !

http://www.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2012/events/38_France/day2/big2/big2_breen_fra_10.JPG

Kielder
12th May 2012, 12:27
SS11 was 10' delayed due to a first loop's crash.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 12:34
SS11 was 10' delayed because a first loop's crash.



Now it's started ;)

Kielder
12th May 2012, 12:49
Andreas faster than this morning, but not as fast as Kopecky in the first loop.

Mad cat jnr
12th May 2012, 12:51
Anyone got a link to the live coverage of SS12 on french tv?

Livewireshock
12th May 2012, 12:57
Has been a great morning s far, I have well enjoyed the action.

RS
12th May 2012, 12:59
Kopecky fastest again on this stage. The frustrating thing about Jan is that he can be a very fast driver, just not all of the time...

dimviii
12th May 2012, 13:27
some new videos.Watch at ss 7 the difference at cutting between Sordo and Campana.
Event Videos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/list/id/38)

RS
12th May 2012, 13:37
Anyone got a link to the live coverage of SS12 on french tv?

It is on the channel "Via Stella" but I don't have a link.

Also live on Eurosport Player.

RS
12th May 2012, 13:52
Breen pushing really hard again.

RS
12th May 2012, 13:53
Campana +8 in first split.

Edit: But fastest at 2nd, so I guess 1st split was wrong.

tolis
12th May 2012, 14:00
Campana +8 in first split.

Edit: But fastest at 2nd, so I guess 1st split was wrong.

Where you find splits?

RS
12th May 2012, 14:05
Where you find splits?

Eurosport Player. Kopecky seems to be faster this time through.

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 14:13
Yes, he is taking back second position overall from Campana

RS
12th May 2012, 14:14
I don't enjoy watching onboards with the Mini. It doesn't sound or look as agressive as the NA cars.

RS
12th May 2012, 14:14
Yes, he is taking back second position overall from Campana

If only he could have been "on it" on the first run.

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 14:16
If only he could have been "on it" on the first run.

Yes, i agree with you, he could be very close to Sordo in that case, but now i guess it is too late, Sordo will take the victory for sure.

Tom206wrc
12th May 2012, 14:30
Big time loss for McCormack(+3') :s

darkstar
12th May 2012, 14:48
Mikkelsen's moment on SS5: IRC CORSICA SS5 BIG FRIGHT FOR MIKKELSEN - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id/407/id_event/38)

wow, how lucky was that??? :D

Fast Eddie WRC
12th May 2012, 15:58
SS13 - Breen just +0.6 on Andreas ! :)

RS
12th May 2012, 16:08
Kopecky again but still quite tight with Campana with one stage to go.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th May 2012, 16:24
Links for the final stage:

Wiziwig.tv | IRC Rally | Watch live and free: IRC Rally Corsica (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=157501&part=sports)

wwbroe
12th May 2012, 17:49
Great victory for Sordo, first rally in IRC and immediately first victory also.

RS
12th May 2012, 17:53
Good solid drive by Sordo over the whole rally and great drive by Kopecky today (except SS10), also very good drive by Campana.

Best IRC rally of the year so far, especially with live tv but on the whole it ended a bit disappointing as I think there could have been a fantastic battle for victory if Basso and Mikkelsen had stayed in the fight.

Hope to see more of the Mini this year with good drivers!

A FONDO
12th May 2012, 18:01
(3 - Mikkelsen Andreas / Floene Ola): “We are so far to the guys in front, we try to enjoy, but it is not maximum attack. I hope I have used up all my bad luck in one rally.”

Bad luck OMG? LOL! Solberg's bad influence on the newcomers :rolleyes:

Otherwise Sordo played it like a boss. Halfway through the rally with half a minute distance. Let the romping kids smash their toys and take the gold at the end. No drama, no pressure.

JAM
12th May 2012, 18:31
Third victory of a turbocharged car, but this could represent a radical change on the IRC.

This victory is the start of the future, with the 1600 Turbo engines.

On this rally the Mini appeared faster than the rest of the field, let's see in the future, and specially if the 1600T engine is better than de 2000.

N.O.T
12th May 2012, 18:35
And that is the difference between WRC level of driving and "Ladycup".

JHvP
12th May 2012, 18:43
17.9 s? So the difference is not very high..

Jordib
12th May 2012, 18:45
Third victory of a turbocharged car, but this could represent a radical change on the IRC.

This victory is the start of the future, with the 1600 Turbo engines.

On this rally the Mini appeared faster than the rest of the field, let's see in the future, and specially if the 1600T engine is better than de 2000.


I dont' agree. If you see the fastest times of the rally are mainly S2000 Skodas and Peugeots. The Mini for me is one step behind for now, maybe due to the weight as Dani appointed but i'm sure that without a driver like Dani driving the Mini the winner would be in a different car.

For me this rally showed that works Skodas mainly are still faster than the Mini at least. Not enough stages to compare with Fiesta RRC unfortunately.

Coach 2
12th May 2012, 19:08
Must say I agree with NOT and Jordib, when we compare T 1600 and NA engines.
Now it only remains to adjust the R4 regulations.
Then this b.classe could be really interesting.

Kielder
12th May 2012, 19:24
I didn't know that years ago, in the WRC era, some drivers used to take notes also for the road sections in Corsica. Basso also should for the next year.

RS
12th May 2012, 19:55
I dont' agree. If you see the fastest times of the rally are mainly S2000 Skodas and Peugeots.

I don't think that would have been the case if Basso had stayed in. My feeling is that they 1.6Ts are at least on a par with the S2000s, guess we will learn more on the other events which Basso does.

I still much prefer watching the S2000 cars, especially on the onboards, so not looking forward to R5 in that respect.

Barreis
12th May 2012, 21:43
Completely sure that Sordo could go faster if needed.

dimviii
12th May 2012, 23:36
nice photo!
http://www.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2012/events/38_France/day3/big2/big2_bouffier_fra_47.JPG

and some more
Event Photos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/photogallery/list/id/38)

Plan9
13th May 2012, 00:29
Third victory of a turbocharged car, but this could represent a radical change on the IRC.

This victory is the start of the future, with the 1600 Turbo engines.

On this rally the Mini appeared faster than the rest of the field, let's see in the future, and specially if the 1600T engine is better than de 2000.

I think we should wait until the Mini has been on more high speed tarmac events and gravel conditions before we come to conclusions. Also be good if Dani could keep going in IRC. It has taken him so long to win anything outright!

amilk
13th May 2012, 06:04
And that is the difference between WRC level of driving and "Ladycup".

Sordo WRC level, yes, Mikkelsen also it's more and more prooved. Basso was in pair so you downgrade too much this series.

N.O.T
13th May 2012, 19:44
Sordo WRC level, yes, Mikkelsen also it's more and more prooved. Basso was in pair so you downgrade too much this series.

For s2000 cars mikkelsen, Basso, hanninen and some more from the IRC are top....in a WRC car and level of competition is a different story...and usually not a successful one.

See the results for Al attyiah, tanak for example and Neuville...

IRC is a very good base with some great talent, but in order to be WRC level you have to evolve from the IRC driving.

Viking
13th May 2012, 20:53
The people driving at the top places in the IRC are no tourists, they probably work as much (or perhaps even more) as the "stars" in the WRC, to achieve their goals...

Ola Flřene (Mikkelsen's co driver) said somewhere that he would be 300 days away from home this year, in addition to all IRC rounds and testing they do 5-6 rounds in WRC and recce on most others.

N.O.T
13th May 2012, 20:55
Tanak never drove IRC. Al Attiyah only few times and that in the event he knew most from all drivers... In the perspective that the IRC has a good base for drivers to evolve to the WRC, I think you're right. The only thing I have a problem with is that you call it "a ladycup", it lacks respect. The people driving at the top places in the IRC are no tourists, they probably work as much (or perhaps even more) as the "stars" in the WRC, to achieve their goals... Do you call everything that's not the best bad or stupid? In most of the cases you're right, but I'm not surprised that some people on this forum dislike (and/or ignore) you, you write everything in a way that it's almost offensive.

i refered to tanak and al attyaih because they faced hanninen in PWRC with good results...

Calling IRC ladycup is as offensive as claiming that IRC is equal to WRC... wording it is where we differ...it is called sense of humor.

Adler
14th May 2012, 09:09
For me main problem for the step up from top-class (IRC) to world-class (WRC) is the different character of the rallyes....roughly said IRC is a tarmac cup, WRC is a gravel cup, in this respect I think Neuvilles performance is very good, and it is just a matter of time until he can fight for podiums...

back to topic:
Andi Aigner is very happy with his first outing in the Impreza, he said he was never pushing at all, just adjusted his speed to his main-rivals (other production cars, his order was clearly to win this class, not more or less), and used the event to try different setups and learn the cars performance...

IRC: Korsika-Rallye - 2012 - Rallye - motorline.cc (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/index.php/IRC-Korsika-Rallye---Der-Klassenkonkurrenz-davon-gefahren/article=169670)

Teamboss Manfred Stohl was also very pleased with the result, next rallye for Aigner will be Ypres...

pucky54
14th May 2012, 09:43
My photos can be found here: Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/fotogalerie.php?souzav=64%7C1020&autor=104)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/6bb08eaf8c12302148a22965f391dffd.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/5bb601bc08338d7cc5411849d51fa466.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/85876e038b39382ce49812aec2934853.jpg

JAM
14th May 2012, 14:11
I dont' agree. If you see the fastest times of the rally are mainly S2000 Skodas and Peugeots. The Mini for me is one step behind for now, maybe due to the weight as Dani appointed but i'm sure that without a driver like Dani driving the Mini the winner would be in a different car.

For me this rally showed that works Skodas mainly are still faster than the Mini at least. Not enough stages to compare with Fiesta RRC unfortunately.

The Mini is at the same level as Skodas and Peugeot's. Now we need to confirme this in a gravel event.

Sordo is a top WRC-level driver, but was in a car almost new to him and with some km of tests in a demanding event as this, and facing competition from drivers that know theis cars (Basso was exception) and know the roads very well, having made the rally last year.

The Fiesta RRC also show good speed.

Mirek
14th May 2012, 14:22
Sordo is a top WRC-level driver, but was in a car almost new to him and with some km of tests in a demanding event as this, and facing competition from drivers that know theis cars (Basso was exception) and know the roads very well, having made the rally last year.

New for him? Get real, he has done thousands of kilometers in Mini. The S2000 variant differs only in engine performance and less aerodynamic grip. Also Sordo did Corsica more times than IRC drivers before 2012 (Kopecký 4x, Basso 1x 11 years a go, Mikkelsen 3x), Sordo did Corsica 5x. Also Sordo is No.2 world driver on asphalt and if the car was on pair with other cars he would have to win quite easy. That's not my feeling from the event although the early problems for Basso and Mikkelsen didn't get so much comparison. And there is one point. The Mini S2000 is way more expensive to run that 207 or Fabia S2000.

A FONDO
14th May 2012, 14:28
If somebody missed it (like me)

IRC Rally Tour de Corse 2012 - SS10 Live - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBtOcOakaIc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK_B_HoNZWU

JAM
14th May 2012, 14:39
New for him? Get real, he has done thousands of kilometers in Mini. The S2000 variant differs only in engine performance and less aerodynamic grip. Also Sordo did Corsica more times than IRC drivers before 2012 (Kopecký 4x, Basso 1x 11 years a go, Mikkelsen 3x), Sordo did Corsica 5x. Also Sordo is No.2 world driver on asphalt and if the car was on pair with other cars he would have to win quite easy. That's not my feeling from the event although the early problems for Basso and Mikkelsen didn't get so much comparison. And there is one point. The Mini S2000 is way more expensive to run that 207 or Fabia S2000.

To have done Corsica by the last time 4 years ago, is not the same as doing it last year. But ok...

The Mini S2000 is not exactly the same as the WRC. Is not a question of changing a wing and reducing power. There's a lot work to be done. But ok.

The future will show how things will be.

By the way and talking about the RRC prices. More than 500.000 Euros by a Fiesta RRC?!?!!? The Mini must be at the same level... this people are being completely crazy!

Mirek
14th May 2012, 14:51
By the way and talking about the RRC prices. More than 500.000 Euros by a Fiesta RRC?!?!!? The Mini must be at the same level... this people are being completely crazy!

I meant running cost. From what I heard from people having their own 207, Fabia and Mini it's a big difference.