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ykiki
28th December 2006, 19:27
Jim Clark?

Mihai
28th December 2006, 19:39
Jim Clark died in 1967, so it can't be him in 1968.

ykiki
28th December 2006, 19:47
Jim Clark died in 1967, so it can't be him in 1968.
Thanks. I was wondering if I might be off by a year...

DrDomm
28th December 2006, 21:16
Jim Clark died in 1967, so it can't be him in 1968.

Jim Clark, 3/4/36-4/7/68

DrDomm
28th December 2006, 21:19
Parnelli Jones?

Civic
28th December 2006, 21:27
Weld or Spence?

Chris R
28th December 2006, 21:27
Parnelli Jones?


From what I just found I would say it Is Jim Clark in an early 1968 (late 1967??) test - I never knew he drove that car - good find Phoenix!! (if that is right let ykiki have it - he got it first...)

DrDomm
28th December 2006, 21:38
From what I just found I would say it Is Jim Clark in an early 1968 (late 1967??) test - I never knew he drove that car - good find Phoenix!! (if that is right let ykiki have it - he got it first...)

Oh yeah, I agree. I thought it was Phoenix who said it wasn't Clark...it's from a test in "spring" 1968 where Clark and Jones were present.

Mihai
28th December 2006, 22:41
Sorry for mixing things up in my head. My memory is playing tricks already. I'll be probably senile when I'm gonna hit the 50 mark. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/gr8link/orn/00.gif

Alexamateo
29th December 2006, 02:34
Driver- Stefan "The deer hunter " Johansson


"The Deer Hunter" is right!

img387.imageshack.us/img387/2219/deadfawn6sc.jpg

Alexamateo
29th December 2006, 02:44
Driver- Stefan "The deer hunter " Johansson


The "Deer Hunter" is right! :p :

Phoenixent
29th December 2006, 05:46
Jim Clark?

You are Correct. :up:

Jim Clark drove the Lotus 56 at Indianapolis March of 1968 during a test with STP. Parnelli Jones was there also in the Paxton Turbine. Sadly Clark died a month later.

Your Turn.

Phoenixent
29th December 2006, 05:51
Weld or Spence?

I have a photo of Spence during practice at speed but decided on the photo of Clark instead.

Civic
29th December 2006, 12:31
They're way before my time. I just remember Weld and Spence's story since I got an Indy 500 5-disc DVD set (one DVD each for the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and one bonus DVD) for Christmas.

ykiki
1st January 2007, 09:30
Drivers/Track please.

This is my first submission (and I'm afraid the scan didn't turn out as well as I'd hoped). I correctly guessed the Charles Nearburg picture a couple weeks ago, but between losing power for several days and then the holidays, I never submitted a photo. So, guessing Jim Clark gives me a second chance. My appologies, and a Happy New Year to all.

Mihai
1st January 2007, 10:20
Mario Andretti (#1 Hawk-Ford) and Chris Amon (#66 Vollstedt-Ford) in Fuji/Japan 1966 ?

Phoenixent
1st January 2007, 10:58
Driver- #1 Bobby Unser and #66 Mark Donohue
Year- 1969
Car- Eagle-Ford and Lola-Chevy
Track- Seattle

ykiki
1st January 2007, 22:48
Driver- #1 Bobby Unser and #66 Mark Donohue
Year- 1969
Car- Eagle-Ford and Lola-Chevy
Track- Seattle

Wow! That was quick. You are correct. This shot is of Turn 3 at Seattle International Raceway (now Pacific Raceways). You're up Phoenixent.

Phoenixent
1st January 2007, 23:30
Wow! That was quick. You are correct. This shot is of Turn 3 at Seattle International Raceway (now Pacific Raceways). You're up Phoenixent.

Great Photo. That Lola the Mark Donohue was driving had several different engines in it depending on the track they raced at. That was some hard racing back then. Both drivers spun out during the race must be right after this photo.

Be back in a minute with a new photo.

Phoenixent
1st January 2007, 23:32
Drivers,Cars , Year, & Track

http://shutter12.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/002/1B/BD/46/53/ZM9UIwimxq-LMKeFxYkaLa2DzguTokVv0153.jpg

Chris R
2nd January 2007, 02:19
Drivers,Cars , Year, & Track

http://shutter12.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/002/1B/BD/46/53/ZM9UIwimxq-LMKeFxYkaLa2DzguTokVv0153.jpg


Roger McCluskey - McLaren Offy #1
Joe Leonard - Eagle #16
Ontario
1974

I see Leonard wrecked in the race and never raced again - was he injured or did the cards just fall that way?

Phoenixent
2nd January 2007, 06:36
Roger McCluskey - McLaren Offy #1
Joe Leonard - Eagle #16
Ontario
1974

I see Leonard wrecked in the race and never raced again - was he injured or did the cards just fall that way?


You are Correct Chris. :up:

Joe Leonard had career ending injuries from the crash that was caused by a Firestone tire letting go and the tread hitting him.

Your turn.

Chris R
2nd January 2007, 22:09
ok, work computer with lots of cool new scans crashed - I'll be back in a few with an interim post....

Chris R
2nd January 2007, 22:18
http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/photos/114976937-S.jpg

the usual please.....

btw - did we ever find out who the Indy Lights guys were???

Alexamateo
2nd January 2007, 22:41
http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/photos/114976937-S.jpg

the usual please.....

btw - did we ever find out who the Indy Lights guys were???

Robby Gordon
Reynard-Toyota
1998
Detroit

Mihai
2nd January 2007, 22:44
Scott Pruett
Reynard-Toyota
1999
Belle Isle

Alexamateo
2nd January 2007, 23:03
In retrospect, I think Mihai got it. (psst it's Detroit)

Mihai
2nd January 2007, 23:14
I don't know, take a look at this pic (you can see the 'W' from 'Windsor' and the white line on the track) : http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/photos/114976900-S.jpg
It was posted previously in this game by Chris and he gave the go to Bob who said it's Belle Isle.

Alexamateo
2nd January 2007, 23:16
Belle Isle = Detroit :)

Mihai
2nd January 2007, 23:24
:) Silly me! How many things I get to learn by playing this game :up:
A quick search on wikipedia revealed me the history of the track:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Isle_(Michigan)

Alexamateo
2nd January 2007, 23:28
:) Silly me! How many things I get to learn by playing this game :up:
A quick search on wikipedia revealed me the history of the track:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Isle_(Michigan)

Yeah, me too.

Did you edit your post? I could have sworn that originally you only had driver, car, and year with no track listed.

drewdawg727
3rd January 2007, 01:10
It has to be Pruett...Gordon and a different livery in 98 i believe....
Sorry i've been either lurking or too late to venture a guess at any of these but i'm still playing!!

Chris R
3rd January 2007, 01:37
Scott Pruett
Reynard-Toyota
1999
Belle Isle

you got it :champion:


I forgot Pruett drove that car....


yes, there are all kinds of things I have learned in this game - trying to research more photos is always the biggest challenge.....

Chris R
3rd January 2007, 01:43
speaking of learning thing - I got two AWESOME racing books for Christmas - one was the autobiography by Dr. Steve Olvey - one of the chief people behindthe CART medical team - very insightful and interesting... I am having a hard time judging if I want to take everything as fact he seems a little full of himself at times - but at other points he seems very down to earth..... a worthwhile read for any CART fan....

also, for those of you who have spent time at Rumbledrome - I got "King of the Boards" - the book by Gary Doyle about Jimmy Murphy and his era. Really cool - lots of pictures. According to my wife when you call to order the book you actually talk to Gary - she said he sounded a little disappointed that she was a racing fan's wife (an not an actual fan) so he couldn't really chew the fat with her too much :)

Civic
3rd January 2007, 04:03
The Lights guys were Kane and da Matta.

Mihai
3rd January 2007, 10:54
Did you edit your post? I could have sworn that originally you only had driver, car, and year with no track listed.

Yes, I did, I added the track after finding that Moreno picture.

Name the car, driver and the location :

DrDomm
3rd January 2007, 13:36
2005 Marcus Gronholm Paris Lola

Mihai
3rd January 2007, 13:42
Right driver & car. Keep diggin'.

Mihai
3rd January 2007, 13:49
Right car & driver.

mwphoto
5th January 2007, 00:36
The Lights guys were Kane and da Matta.

#3 was da Matta and #27 was Mark Hotchkis from Milwaukee 1997.

DrDomm
5th January 2007, 01:04
Right car & driver.

2005 Mexico

Mihai
5th January 2007, 19:49
Still no. :)
Take a look at this one. It reveals more about the location:

DrDomm
5th January 2007, 19:52
2006 Long Beach

Mihai
5th January 2007, 19:57
Right year.
Mind the hotels in the background! ;)

DrDomm
5th January 2007, 22:16
Right year.
Mind the hotels in the background! ;)

That's what I was trying to do...Australia?

Mihai
5th January 2007, 23:13
:up: Yes, it's Surfers Paradise. I hope I'm gonna work in one of these hotels sooner or later. :)
Gronholm went Down Under for Rally Australia. On October 23rd 2006, three days before the shakedown of the rally, some Ford PR wizz invited him to the Lexmark Indy 300. In these pictures the Finn is shown around the Newman/Hass Racing garage by Bruno Janqueira and Sebastien Bourdais.
Check out his face as he squeezes himself into the tight cockpit:

DrDomm
6th January 2007, 04:26
Yeah, I figured as much. My first thought was the 2005 Race of Champions in Paris where Bourdais demo'd the McD's Lola. I'll get back tomorrow with another pic.

DrDomm
6th January 2007, 16:20
Ok.

Mihai
6th January 2007, 17:19
Guy Smith
2004 Rocketsports #17 Lola

DrDomm
6th January 2007, 17:20
Guy Smith
2004 Rocketsports #17 Lola

Right. Where?

Mihai
6th January 2007, 17:25
Road America ?

Mihai
6th January 2007, 17:53
No, it's Mexico City! :)

DrDomm
6th January 2007, 22:38
No, it's Mexico City! :)

Yeah.

Mihai
8th January 2007, 20:39
Allright, the usual stuff about this picture.
And for bonus points, mention the original colour of the car.

Civic
8th January 2007, 22:23
Peter Revson 1971 at Indy in an orange McLaren M16?

Alexamateo
8th January 2007, 23:54
Peter Revson 1971 at Indy in an orange McLaren M16?

Here's a color shot! :)

jimispeed
9th January 2007, 00:18
That's a pretty sweet lookin car!!

Chris R
9th January 2007, 03:04
Here's a color shot! :)


This picture shows as much of the changing of the guard as the switch from front to rear engines... You have two aero wedges next to the last of the "cigar" cars.... didn't the sppeds go up over 25 mph between 1970 and 1972??

Alexamateo
9th January 2007, 04:00
This picture shows as much of the changing of the guard as the switch from front to rear engines... You have two aero wedges next to the last of the "cigar" cars.... didn't the sppeds go up over 25 mph between 1970 and 1972??

They did. Al Unser won the pole @ 170.221 in 1970
Peter Revson was on pole @ 178.696 in 1971
Bobby Unser won the pole @ 195.940 in 1972

That year Cale Yarborough (Yes, the NASCAR driver) was 33rd fastest @ 178.864, so the pole winning speed in 1971 would not have qualified in 1972 :eek: :)

Mihai
9th January 2007, 09:15
Peter Revson 1971 at Indy in an orange McLaren M16?

That's right! :up: It's Revson works M16A. The 'hip radiator' and the single high-mounted rear-view mirror of this car looks odd.

Civic
9th January 2007, 09:31
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/HybridsRacing/pioneercar.jpg

Phoenixent
9th January 2007, 10:51
Driver- Tony Kanaan
Year- 2002
Car- Lola B02-Honda
Track- Laguna Seca

Civic
9th January 2007, 11:56
Everything but the track.

Mihai
9th January 2007, 12:12
Corkscrew has sand on the inside. It's Vancouver!

Phoenixent
9th January 2007, 17:20
Driver- Tony Kanaan
Year- 2002
Car- Lola B02-Honda
Track- Mexico City

Civic
9th January 2007, 19:40
Mihai got the track right.

Mihai
9th January 2007, 20:01
Go for it, Phoenix! :up:

Phoenixent
10th January 2007, 00:05
Go for it, Phoenix! :up:

Thanks new photo coming up.

Phoenixent
10th January 2007, 00:05
Drivers, Cars, Year, & Track

http://shutter06.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/09/005/63/D7/9A/EA/e5KJ97wH88f9DoYR9VN1JfWyTAGqd8MT014A.jpg

drewdawg727
10th January 2007, 01:38
Looks like Vancouver in the late 80s...

Alexamateo
10th January 2007, 02:43
1985
Long Beach
Bill Whittington Lola Cosworth (12)
Emerson Fittipaldi March-Cosworth (40)
Scott Brayton March-Cosworth (37)?

Phoenixent
10th January 2007, 04:25
1985
Long Beach
Bill Whittington Lola Cosworth (12)
Emerson Fittipaldi March-Cosworth (40)
Scott Brayton March-Cosworth (37)?

Right Drivers, Cars and Year. :up:

Keep digging on the track.

Phoenixent
10th January 2007, 04:28
Looks like Vancouver in the late 80s...

Nice track but not the one.

Keep Digging.

nanders
10th January 2007, 06:22
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/HybridsRacing/herdez.jpg

I don' know who's driving the car .... but I "know" the photograher ::: :) )))

Civic
10th January 2007, 09:14
It's Memo Gidley, and Mr. Burke is cool!

Alexamateo
10th January 2007, 14:08
Meadowlands?

Phoenixent
10th January 2007, 22:18
Meadowlands?

You are correct. :up:

It's the old track configuration that had a turn similar to turn 8 at long beach.

Your turn

Alexamateo
11th January 2007, 03:43
Driver
Car :eek:
Track
Year

garyshell
11th January 2007, 04:10
Driver
Car :eek:
Track
Year

WHOA! What the hell is that???????????? The thing in the middle looks like
a lot like the fan assembly in a VW or Porsche minus it's shroud. I can't wait to hear what this is.

Gary

Phoenixent
11th January 2007, 08:59
Driver- Bill Cheesebourg
Year- 1966
Car- Huffaker-Porsche Twin
Track- Indianapolis

Alexamateo
11th January 2007, 22:52
Driver- Bill Cheesebourg
Year- 1966
Car- Huffaker-Porsche Twin
Track- Indianapolis

You got it!
It's a twin-engined front and rear engined car.

I don't know how it ran, but I do know it was a DNQ.
It also appeared at Phoenix in November of that year, but is listed as a DNQ, too slow.

I imagine it was a handful to drive and the handling was never worked out.

Phoenix, do you or anyone else know the story behind the car?

Phoenixent
12th January 2007, 07:15
You got it!
It's a twin-engined front and rear engined car.

I don't know how it ran, but I do know it was a DNQ.
It also appeared at Phoenix in November of that year, but is listed as a DNQ, too slow.

I imagine it was a handful to drive and the handling was never worked out.

Phoenix, do you or anyone else know the story behind the car?

I don't have much it DNQ at Indy due to a lack of speed the fastest lap was 149 mph. The chassis has two Lancia gearboxes (one for each engine), aluminum bodywork and the engines were mounted forward of the wheels on both the ends. Huffaker is still in business making chassis. Came across their site looking a restored Huffaker with MG liquid suspension. Those cars were at Indy 1964 to 1966 just wonder where the Porsche powered one is at now.

Be back with a photo

Phoenixent
12th January 2007, 07:22
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter07.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/004/77/6D/A2/03/X4j92zTNEcgL9GYMq-SQjq3NJgatIEUz01A1.jpg

Mihai
12th January 2007, 22:48
Driver - Michael Chandler
Car - Eagle 81 Chevy
Year - 1982
Track - Riverside (?)

Alexamateo
12th January 2007, 23:21
If it is Riverside, it was some kind of race. Only 4 out of 28 cars finished! :eek: :)

Mihai
12th January 2007, 23:35
Yes, it struck me too! A single wrecked car and a couple of dozens of mechanical failures.

Phoenixent
13th January 2007, 00:33
Driver - Michael Chandler
Car - Eagle 81 Chevy
Year - 1982
Track - Riverside (?)

You are Correct. :up:

Your Turn.

Phoenixent
13th January 2007, 00:43
If it is Riverside, it was some kind of race. Only 4 out of 28 cars finished! :eek: :)

The stats on the race say what were they thinking. It was a 500 Kilometer race distance or (313.5 Miles) on a 3.3 mile road course. It was held in the end of August in what is basically a low desert area. Temps had to be about 115 digress maybe more. They just worked those oval cars in to the ground they were not meant for that kind of racing.

I bet the drivers were just used up after the race like the NASCAR Bristol race during the summer.

Mihai
13th January 2007, 21:04
Let's try this one.

Phoenixent
13th January 2007, 21:54
Driver- Dennis Firestone
Year- 1984
Car- March 83C-Cosworth
Track- Elkhart Lake

Mihai
13th January 2007, 22:40
Right car & driver.

Phoenixent
13th January 2007, 23:22
Driver- Dennis Firestone
Year- 1985
Car- March 84C-Cosworth
Track- Portland

Mihai
14th January 2007, 08:37
Yep, that's correct! Your turn.

I found this pic on the hompepage of that mechanic in red that you see checking the temperature (?) of the right-front tyre of the car. The guy is/was a racer himself:
http://www.scooter23.com/Photos.htm

Phoenixent
14th January 2007, 11:00
That was a cool photo of Dennis Firestone. :up:

Now it's time to go in Mr.Peabody's wayback machine. :)

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/008/63/F3/79/5B/ciOlL+S1JLLYKIiAMy1F4F34VJw4Fdlt01E5.jpg

DrDomm
14th January 2007, 16:20
Just guessing...

1958 Monza Sterling Moss Maserati?

Mihai
14th January 2007, 17:39
The bodywork kinda looks like the Moss' Maser.

http://www.gaffersports.com/motorsport/cars/maserati/autos/420-m-58_indy_1958.jpg

Phoenixent
14th January 2007, 23:06
Just guessing...

1958 Monza Sterling Moss Maserati?


Right Track. :up:

Keep Digging.

Chris R
15th January 2007, 02:20
Fangio in a Kuzma at Monza in 1958?

Phoenixent
15th January 2007, 03:06
Fangio in a Kuzma at Monza in 1958?

Right Track. :up:

Keep Digging

Mad_Hatter
15th January 2007, 04:58
Pat O'Connor
?-Chrysler
Monza
1957

Mad_Hatter
15th January 2007, 05:02
Yep, that's correct! Your turn.

I found this pic on the hompepage of that mechanic in red that you see checking the temperature (?) of the right-front tyre of the car. The guy is/was a racer himself:
http://www.scooter23.com/Photos.htm

Please tell me Daewoo was a sponsor and not the engine in that picture!!!

Phoenixent
15th January 2007, 07:46
Pat O'Connor
?-Chrysler
Monza
1957

You are Correct. :up:

Your Turn.

It was a nice photo of Pat O'Connor scan from a collection. Hope everyone enjoyed it.

Mihai
15th January 2007, 22:34
Please tell me Daewoo was a sponsor and not the engine in that picture!!!

Daewoo is a big company producing textiles, electronics, all kinds of stuff. Their implication in motorsport as an automotive company however was close to inexistent. Definitely not an engine manufacturer in CART.

Mad_Hatter
16th January 2007, 02:38
Phoenixent that Race of Two Worlds could have really been something if it had taken off, huh.

Mark Windecker can post the next one if he's still around.



If he doesn't by tomorrow someone else can go.
:)

Phoenixent
16th January 2007, 04:37
Phoenixent that Race of Two Worlds could have really been something if it had taken off, huh.

That would have been something to see. I think that both sides of the Atlantic would have gained more in the world of open wheel racing. That is one race I would have love to see.

mwphoto
16th January 2007, 11:05
Mark Windecker can post the next one if he's still around.

Thanks!

http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/photos/42596646-M.jpg

Alexamateo
16th January 2007, 12:38
Thanks!

http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/photos/42596646-M.jpg
It's Dale driving his snowplow at mid-Ohio in '86! :p :



Also known as DC-1 :)

Mihai
16th January 2007, 12:49
Dale Coyne himself in the DC-1 based on the Lola t-800 he had been running previously (Mid Ohio 1986).

later edit: oops, too late :(

mwphoto
16th January 2007, 13:32
Correct, will have to look for something harder next time.

Alexamateo
16th January 2007, 15:01
Driver
Car
Track
Year

Phoenixent
16th January 2007, 17:40
Driver- Bobby Rahal
Year- 1984
Car- March 84C-Cosworth
Track- Tamiami Park

Alexamateo
16th January 2007, 19:32
Driver- Bobby Rahal
Year- 1984
Car- March 84C-Cosworth
Track- Tamiami Park

RIght car driver & year, wrong track!

Mihai
16th January 2007, 19:39
Long Beach ?

Alexamateo
16th January 2007, 19:56
Long Beach ?

Keep Trying!

Chris R
16th January 2007, 20:28
Meadowlands?

DrDomm
16th January 2007, 23:39
Las Vegas?

Alexamateo
17th January 2007, 00:44
Las Vegas?

We have a winner! :up:

I had cropped out the mountains in the background to make it a little more difficult. I guess it was! :p :

You're up!

Here's the photo uncropped.

Alexamateo
17th January 2007, 00:45
Would help to attach photo.

Chris R
17th January 2007, 02:33
I don't know, those "mountians" look like the dump you can see from the Meadowlands!! (just joking - not sure you can actually see one from there).... :D

DrDomm
17th January 2007, 04:04
We have a winner! :up:

I had cropped out the mountains in the background to make it a little more difficult. I guess it was! :p :

You're up!

Here's the photo uncropped.

I will defer to Phoenix. Miami would have been my first guess anyway, but I remembered seeing all those Nissan banners in previous LV pics.

Phoenixent
17th January 2007, 08:05
I will defer to Phoenix. Miami would have been my first guess anyway, but I remembered seeing all those Nissan banners in previous LV pics.


Thanks will be posting in a minute. I thought Miami because of the Nissan banners. I was heavy into the IMSA GTP's and Nissan signs were everywhere.

Be back in a minute.

Phoenixent
17th January 2007, 08:06
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter12.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/05/003/33/3F/34/26/cy6LqWCU9BAbbsvYYRTe+E5tjPO+DlLW0118.jpg

Mihai
17th January 2007, 12:01
Mario Andretti
Wildcat-Cosworth
1982 Indy 500

Chris R
17th January 2007, 13:50
Mario Andretti
Indy 1981
Wildcat-Cosworth
1982 car had a more rounded nose.....

Phoenixent
17th January 2007, 19:36
Mario Andretti
Indy 1981
Wildcat-Cosworth
1982 car had a more rounded nose.....


You Are Correct Chris. :up:

How things would look if Penske did not have powerful attorneys. He would have Three less wins at Indy.

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/05/005/0F/FD/D7/D2/dl7TnNbHtcQoEMHsfw36O60O76i9tCE90168.jpg

Your Turn.

Chris R
17th January 2007, 20:33
I know about 1981 - what other wins would he not have??

I thought I read somewhere that the bottom line in the 1981 case was that Andretti didthe same thing (passing under yellow while blending in) that Unser did so they would both get penalized and the finishing order would bethe same.... (not taking sides here...)

back in a minute with a picture...

Chris

Chris R
17th January 2007, 20:40
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/another1.jpg

Here's the next one.... the usual please

Mihai
17th January 2007, 21:18
Michael Chandler
Rattlesnake-Cosworth
1983 Indy 500

Is that a signed photo from Mike for you ?

Chris R
17th January 2007, 23:18
Michael Chandler
Rattlesnake-Cosworth
1983 Indy 500

Is that a signed photo from Mike for you ?

yes and yes

good work!!

when I was a kid I wrote to all the Indy drivers I could asking for autographed pictures - this is one of those....

Phoenixent
18th January 2007, 05:08
I know about 1981 - what other wins would he not have??

I thought I read somewhere that the bottom line in the 1981 case was that Andretti didthe same thing (passing under yellow while blending in) that Unser did so they would both get penalized and the finishing order would bethe same.... (not taking sides here...)

back in a minute with a picture...

Chris
The Indy 500's in question were 1972 with Mark Donohue. USAC was scoring Gary Bettenhausen as Donohues car and there was a difference in laps and Parnelli team thought that Donohue was behind. Penske backed by Goodyear was declared the winner at midnight. Al Unser would have to wait 6 years before No.3 win.

The last one was 2002 with Paul Tracy. Everyone was shocked by the final ruling no matter if it was right or wrong. Never heard that a team could not appeal a win if there was a scoring error.

Chris R
18th January 2007, 12:43
hmmm, I forgot about the 2002 race and never knew about 1972 - interesting.... Thank for the info!!

Mihai
18th January 2007, 13:08
Guess this:

Chris R
18th January 2007, 13:11
Guess this:

Janet Guthrie
1977
Lightning-Offy
Pocono

BobGarage
18th January 2007, 13:13
already had that pictur eon page 10.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=157635&postcount=182

Mihai
18th January 2007, 13:17
Oops, sorry for the redundancy!

Chris, get a new one for us! :up:

Chris R
18th January 2007, 13:39
Oops, sorry for the redundancy!

Chris, get a new one for us! :up:


I thought that was familiar!! :) Really good picture and it was a really nice looking car too - I liked that Lightning when it had a decent paint job....

here's the next one

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/another2.jpg

not sure ofthe track - probably Indy - so just year, driver, car and engine

Mihai
18th January 2007, 15:07
Pete Halsmer
1982 Indy
Eagle-Chevy

Chris R
18th January 2007, 15:42
You got it! It had a Chevy turbo engine for a bit of a twist on the stock block theme....

your turn!!

Mihai
18th January 2007, 16:28
Ok, let's try something slightly different. This isn't a CART/Champ Car picture, but the driver is a former Indy racer and a legend in dirt racing. I want his name :

Chris R
18th January 2007, 17:34
Is that Johnnie Parsons?

Mihai
18th January 2007, 18:05
No.

Phoenixent
18th January 2007, 20:47
Mel Kenyon

Mihai
18th January 2007, 21:16
Still no.

Phoenixent
18th January 2007, 21:23
Sheldon Kinser

Mihai
18th January 2007, 22:48
Yes, it's the late Sheldon Kinser! :up:
I noticed his name while I was doing some research on the Pete Hasmer picture and it rang familiar to me, because I enjoy dirt racing too. Motors TV is broadcasting these days a World of Outlaws event in New Zealand and there are two members of the Kinser family in the race (including Sheldon's cousin, Steve).

Here's a truly amazing fact about Sheldon Kinser's Indy career :
Six time starter of the Indianapolis 500, [...] Sheldon had never driven a rear engine car or raced on pavement until he quailified 26th and finished 12th in the 1975 Indianapolis 500.

Phoenixent
19th January 2007, 00:02
Yes, it's the late Sheldon Kinser! :up:
I noticed his name while I was doing some research on the Pete Hasmer picture and it rang familiar to me, because I enjoy dirt racing too. Motors TV is broadcasting these days a World of Outlaws event in New Zealand and there are two members of the Kinser family in the race (including Sheldon's cousin, Steve).

Here's a truly amazing fact about Sheldon Kinser's Indy career :
Six time starter of the Indianapolis 500, [...] Sheldon had never driven a rear engine car or raced on pavement until he quailified 26th and finished 12th in the 1975 Indianapolis 500.

It was a little bit of a brain tweak with so many Champcar/Sprint car drivers. I was reading an article about Kinser and he was an amazing driver. So many drivers back then came from dirt track backgrounds even 2 time CART Champ Al Unser Jr. Imagine how many it would be now if USAC had went to the rear engine sprinters.

New Photo Coming Up.

Phoenixent
19th January 2007, 00:03
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/009/77/B5/DC/1A/-GFeDeQ548SLxkfDyXDaFzkfsJ6OkZ0o015E.jpg

nanders
19th January 2007, 17:09
I can't wait to guess one. I just gotta post this. Sometimes we forget where this series might have been going previous to TG deciding to commit business hara-kiri. http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52804

Civic
19th January 2007, 19:03
Ayrton Senna in a Penske Ilmor at Firebird Raceway. 1992?

gjalie
19th January 2007, 19:09
mmmmm

nanders
19th January 2007, 19:14
Ayrton Senna in a Penske Ilmor at Firebird Raceway. 1992?

yip!

Chris R
19th January 2007, 20:24
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/009/77/B5/DC/1A/-GFeDeQ548SLxkfDyXDaFzkfsJ6OkZ0o015E.jpg


i think it is a 1988 PC-17 chevy - but not sure of the driver - not Mears' helmet.... I'll keep digging....

BobGarage
19th January 2007, 20:38
mmmmm

that is robert doornbos in a forsythe, lola at msr houston. December 12th 2006!

Mad_Hatter
19th January 2007, 23:34
Jackie Stewart
1988
Penske PC-17
Nazareth?? or Chicago?? or Mid-Ohio??

I've seen it before. In fact I was going to post it.
Can't find it now though.

nanders
20th January 2007, 00:41
Jackie Stewart
1988
Penske PC-17
Milwaukee

I recall a Autoweek series where Stewart drove the Penske, a XJR-9 (which he wrote off) and a Benetton f1 car. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Phoenixent
20th January 2007, 00:58
Jackie Stewart
1988
Penske PC-17
Nazareth?? or Chicago?? or Mid-Ohio??

I've seen it before. In fact I was going to post it.
Can't find it now though.

You Are Correct. :up:

It is Jackie Stewart in a Penske PC17 Mid-Ohio. At least he did not crash it. If I remember right he tested the top cars for that year and put the Jaguar GTP car off course bending it a little.

Your Turn.

Mad_Hatter
20th January 2007, 21:03
Someone else can post.
:up:

drewdawg727
20th January 2007, 21:18
I got one for you all
give me a moment.

drewdawg727
20th January 2007, 21:24
Driver, Year, Car, Track

iks
20th January 2007, 22:33
Jacques Villeneuve
1995
Reynard 95I-Ford Cosworth
Miami

gjalie
20th January 2007, 22:52
that is robert doornbos in a forsythe, lola at msr houston. December 12th 2006!


correct, although i don't know the date exactly. guess you are right.

drewdawg727
21st January 2007, 01:10
Jacques Villeneuve
1995
Reynard 95I-Ford Cosworth
Miami

Everything but the track..

Phoenixent
21st January 2007, 02:15
Driver- Jacques Villeneuve
Year- 1995
Car- Reynard 95I-Ford Cosworth
Track- Detroit Belle Isle

drewdawg727
21st January 2007, 02:35
You're right Phoenix!
Excellent job.

your turn

Phoenixent
21st January 2007, 06:38
You're right Phoenix!
Excellent job.

your turn


Nice photo of Jacques at Belle Isle. :up:

New Photo Coming Up.

Phoenixent
21st January 2007, 06:38
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter13.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/001/7E/4E/F2/90/7ucKzgJNuFBlWM3W4atCZshUCjYsu9Xj01B8.jpg

Civic
21st January 2007, 12:30
Derek Daly March 83c Cosworth
1983
Phoenix?

Phoenixent
21st January 2007, 19:10
Derek Daly March 83c Cosworth
1983
Phoenix?

Your Are Correct. :up:

Cool set of front wings he is running at Phoenix. The early 80's sure had a lot of unusual cars and wing combos.

Your Turn.

Mihai
21st January 2007, 20:31
Cool set of front wings he is running at Phoenix. The early 80's sure had a lot of unusual cars and wing combos.

You can say that again! Very strange wings... I imagine how difficult must have been for the driver in traffic.

Civic
22nd January 2007, 05:30
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/HybridsRacing/speedway.jpg

Mihai
22nd January 2007, 09:39
Gualter Salles
Dale Coyne Lola-Cosworth
Homestead 2000

drewdawg727
22nd January 2007, 12:48
Tarso Marques
Dale Coyne Lola-Cosworth
Homestead 2000

Civic
22nd January 2007, 19:36
Mihai's turn!

Mihai
22nd January 2007, 20:39
OK, let's try something different. Name the driver, team and the year plus the guy in the blue shirt (on the right hand side of the picture) :

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3558/crew3rv.jpg

Phoenixent
22nd January 2007, 20:47
Driver- Jimmy Vasser
Year- 2000
Car- G Force
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

Guy in Blue Shirt- Derek Daly

Chris R
22nd January 2007, 20:48
2000
Target Chip Ganassi Racing
Jimmy Vasser
G-Force/Oldsmobile IRL car

guy in the blue shirt - you???

Mihai
22nd January 2007, 21:01
Phoenix has it! :up:

Though Chris' answer deserves a prize too for its humour! :laugh: :up:

Phoenixent
22nd January 2007, 21:26
Phoenix has it! :up:

Though Chris' answer deserves a prize too for its humour! :laugh: :up:

Great Photo of two of the nicest guys in Champ Car racing. :up:

New Photo Coming Up.

Phoenixent
22nd January 2007, 21:27
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter15.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/003/5F/BD/44/64/sy93M6osShdOqRkk6PDPnhLm90ncC9Ot01D0.jpg

Chris R
23rd January 2007, 02:25
Lloyd Ruby
1968
Mongoose Ford
pick a road course - any road course... lets say Mosport ;)

Alexamateo
23rd January 2007, 04:04
Are those brake cooling radiators above the rear wheels? :confused:

Mihai
23rd January 2007, 15:17
Lloyd Ruby
1968
Mongoose Ford
pick a road course - any road course... lets say Mosport ;)

It's St. Jovite. ;)

Phoenixent
23rd January 2007, 16:55
It's St. Jovite. ;)


You are correct on the track. :up:

Filling in the last piece of the puzzle. It's Your Turn.

Mihai
23rd January 2007, 17:24
Go ahead Chris R, you did all the work!

Chris R
23rd January 2007, 21:12
no - go for it - been out of the office all day and I have a pile of work to get to!!

Alexamateo
23rd January 2007, 22:25
no - go for it - been out of the office all day and I have a pile of work to get to!!

Get to work Chris!......Push those Bushes!! ;)

Mihai
23rd January 2007, 22:39
OK, how many current/former Champ Car drivers and/or team-owners do you see in this picture ? Name them.

pending
23rd January 2007, 22:52
L-R: Scott Pruett (?). Justin Wilson, Paul Gentilozzi

if I'm right I'll someone else take my turn...

Mihai
23rd January 2007, 23:19
L-R: Scott Pruett (?). Justin Wilson, Paul Gentilozzi


That's correct!

Felicitari! ;)

pending
23rd January 2007, 23:41
ok, I changed my mind, Here goes...

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/1/23/t_r34048846i_7f6am_9fb885f.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img01&img=/7/1/23/f_r34048846i_7f6am_9fb885f.jpg)

Phoenixent
23rd January 2007, 23:47
Driver- David Besnard
Year- 2004
Car- Reynard 02I-Ford
Track- Surfers Paradise

pending
24th January 2007, 09:23
Right you are!
That was a bit easy, huh?

Phoenixent
24th January 2007, 16:33
Right you are!
That was a bit easy, huh?


No worries it's all Good. :)

New Photo coming up.

Phoenixent
24th January 2007, 16:33
Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/05/007/77/2A/F2/97/6oXrU3becRZhSW39KWcBB2YEErA+QOTN0210.jpg

Alexamateo
24th January 2007, 17:44
Gordon Johncock
Eagle Ford
1970
Indianapolis Raceway Park

gotta love the crowd protection!

Phoenixent
25th January 2007, 01:27
Gordon Johncock
Eagle Ford
1970
Indianapolis Raceway Park

gotta love the crowd protection!

You are Correct. :up:

I just love those premium seats right next to the rest rooms. :laugh:

Your Turn.

Alexamateo
25th January 2007, 13:46
Hey gang!

I appear to be having problems with my browser, when I hit "manage attachments", nothing happens, so I'm having problems attaching a photo. If someone else wants to go, while I sort this out, that would be great.

Thanks!

AM :)

Alexamateo
26th January 2007, 03:32
Got it taken care of!

Driver
Car
Track
Year

Phoenixent
26th January 2007, 06:55
Driver- Mickey Thompson
Year- 1964
Car- Thompson-Ford DOHC
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway Test

Alexamateo
26th January 2007, 13:14
Right car, track & year, wrong driver.

Mihai
26th January 2007, 16:39
Masten Gregory ?

gofastandwynn
26th January 2007, 17:56
Driver - Dave MacDonald :(
Year- 1964
Car- Thompson-Ford DOHC
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway Test

Alexamateo
26th January 2007, 18:22
Masten Gregory ?

Right! That's really good. I was hoping to stump the band with this one, but that's it. The "Kansas City Flash" tested the car for Thompson.

Did you know that he was the first American to score a podium in F1? In his very first start too!, when he placed 3rd at Monaco in 1957.

Mihai
26th January 2007, 18:34
Masten Gregory fascinated me since I read that he was born on February 29 (i.e. he was one of those rare people celebrating their birthday once every 4 years). New pic right away!

Mihai
26th January 2007, 19:22
Double or nothing:

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1736/guesswn2.jpg

I'm not sure about the track, so don't bother.

Chris R
26th January 2007, 19:30
Teo Fabi and Derek Daly in March 83c's in 1983- I am thinking Phoenix...

Mihai
26th January 2007, 19:34
:up: Yes, it's them!
The caption says something about Fabi becoming at Pocono the first European driver to win a track 500 since Graham Hill, but it doesn't mention the location. I'm thinking about Phoenix Speedway too. Your turn!

Alexamateo
26th January 2007, 19:41
Derek only ran one oval in 1983, Phoenix. It looks like an oval to me, so Phoenix is probably it.

Chris R
26th January 2007, 19:57
ok, here's a way back machine entry - don't check out the properities or you'll spoil the fun :)

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/bunslanghorn70.jpg

nanders
27th January 2007, 21:47
Secret Euro Test

Chris R
29th January 2007, 14:28
Secret Euro Test

HUH????? :confused:

Alexamateo
29th January 2007, 14:39
ok, here's a way back machine entry - don't check out the properities or you'll spoil the fun :)

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/bunslanghorn70.jpg
Bobby Unser
Eagle-Offy
Langhorne
1970

DrDomm
29th January 2007, 15:02
Secret Euro Test

Clearly a screen capture from a racing sim. It would have been appropriate and neat if it was a Champ Car, though.

nanders
29th January 2007, 15:51
Clearly a screen capture from a racing sim. It would have been appropriate and neat if it was a Champ Car, though.

I thought someone might see the forsyth car colors or recognize the track.

Chris R
29th January 2007, 19:31
Bobby Unser
Eagle-Offy
Langhorne
1970

You got it!

your turn

Alexamateo
30th January 2007, 11:50
Here's the next one, the usual please. :)

BobGarage
30th January 2007, 11:54
Rick Muther
Pacific Coast Racing
Penske PC7/79 - Cosworth
1982
Waktins Glen

Alexamateo
30th January 2007, 12:37
Rick Muther
Pacific Coast Racing
Penske PC7/79 - Cosworth
1982
Waktins Glen

WOW! :up: 4 minutes to solve it! So much for making it challenging.

You're up! :)

BobGarage
30th January 2007, 12:44
the usual please :)

Chris R
30th January 2007, 13:05
Al Unser Sr.
Chapparall Cosworth
1979 - Phoenix?

I think this one has been posted before - or I have seen it somewhere in my travels- not sure which....

BobGarage
30th January 2007, 13:59
Al Unser Sr.
Chapparall Cosworth
1979 - Phoenix?

I think this one has been posted before - or I have seen it somewhere in my travels- not sure which....

right car and driver.

wrong year and track.

Alexamateo
30th January 2007, 14:58
Al Unser Sr.
Chapparall Cosworth
1979 - Phoenix?

I think this one has been posted before - or I have seen it somewhere in my travels- not sure which....

I posted it on the old forum. :) , plus it's on one of our favorite websites!

BobGarage
30th January 2007, 15:54
sorry, didn't realise it had already been posted. Chris R got most of it right so can post a new one :)

Chris R
30th January 2007, 16:48
oh yes - now I remember - this is the one that had the wrong year on the picture from the source... oh well, we are bound to repeat things now and again!

Bob - if you have another one, go ahead and post again - if not I'll throw something up later....

BobGarage
30th January 2007, 16:54
i've not got another one to throw up at the moment, so feel free to post one later.

Chris R
30th January 2007, 17:12
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/machinists.jpg

the usual - track not necessary since I don't know......

decartfan
30th January 2007, 17:22
The track is Phoenix, they had this white armco between the walls around the early 80s

Phoenixent
30th January 2007, 18:59
Driver- Josele Garza
Year- 1984
Car- Penske PC10-Cosworth
Track- Phoenix

He did not start this race.

Chris R
30th January 2007, 19:36
Phoenix has it - the photo is from a Machinists promotional 8x10 so I am assuming it was actually a photo shoot - but I do not know for sure...

you're up!

Phoenixent
30th January 2007, 22:29
Phoenix has it - the photo is from a Machinists promotional 8x10 so I am assuming it was actually a photo shoot - but I do not know for sure...

you're up!

Very Cool Photo. :up:

I have a photo of the 1983 car and it is different so I figured it was 1984 before the team received their March.

Thanks decartfan for the assist.

New photo coming up.

Phoenixent
30th January 2007, 22:30
This one should be easy.

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/008/4E/7F/D3/94/nXkMeSe7k5rQ-ScH6QOyRNnc50jE5UJr0226.jpg

Chris R
31st January 2007, 02:36
Rick Miaskiewicz

March 86C
Cleveland
1987 - I guess this was a backup car since it shows he raced an 87C....

Phoenixent
31st January 2007, 09:34
Rick Miaskiewicz

March 86C
Cleveland
1987 - I guess this was a backup car since it shows he raced an 87C....

You are Correct Chris. :up:

Your Turn.

Chris R
31st January 2007, 12:24
433

let's try this one - so what is going on in this picture?

year, track, and as many cars and drivers as you can figure out....

edit - oh, and sorry about the file name - I'll fix that next time I do an attachment.....

Mihai
31st January 2007, 17:38
1964 Indy 500

An obsolete and ridiculous looking front-engined car leading a trio of rear-engined cars.

#1 - AJ Foyt (Watson-Offy)
outside front row - Jim Clark (Lotus-Ford)
#12 - Dan Gurney (Lotus-Ford)
#5 - Don Branson (Watson-Offy)

Chris R
31st January 2007, 18:46
1964 Indy 500

An obsolete and ridiculous looking front-engined car leading a trio of rear-engined cars.

#1 - AJ Foyt (Watson-Offy)
outside front row - Jim Clark (Lotus-Ford)
#12 - Dan Gurney (Lotus-Ford)
#5 - Don Branson (Watson-Offy)

nope, well except for the front engine thing.... and that day it was not quite so obsolete....

Foyt is right
year is wrong
Gurney is in the picture and in a Lotus but not #12
other drivers wrong

keep digging - this one has an interesting story behind it....

Mihai
31st January 2007, 19:34
1965
Foyt, Gurney, Andretti, Tinglestad (?)

Chris R
31st January 2007, 19:43
Right year and I think the last driver is Don Branson instead of Tinglestead....

so how about the track? (I guess I forgot to say that it was not Indy) and the really odd thing the photo is showing...

Alexamateo
31st January 2007, 19:47
Chris, I think the fourth driver is Lloyd Ruby.

Chris R
31st January 2007, 19:48
Chris, I think the fourth driver is Lloyd Ruby.

that's it - my bad :s mokin:

trying to remember all this stuff can get a little confusing!!

nanders
31st January 2007, 22:06
Track is Milwaukee

Gurney
Foyt
Ruby
Clark

1965

Chris R
31st January 2007, 22:51
Track is Milwaukee

Gurney
Foyt
Ruby
Clark

1965

you got it, the strange event is that Foyt is actually starting from the pole in his dirt track car after (I think) wrecking his Lotus in practice and having nothing else to race... talk about running what you brung!!

your turn!

Alexamateo
31st January 2007, 23:18
psst...... it's Andretti, not Clark ;)

Chris R
1st February 2007, 01:06
gheesh - I am getting my own post all messed up - Alex is right - it is Andretti, not Clark..... :confused:

We'll leave the next turn with Nanders since I know alex knows where that one came from ;)

Phoenixent
4th February 2007, 02:08
Since we are waiting fo a new photo. Here is one of the Parnelli VPJ1-Offenhauser before the Phoenix test. Hope you enjoy.

http://shutter12.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/001/6A/DE/6F/8C/HEZHJF8aWvb9Ru9jSsxCuKV3B46hS3xI027F.jpg

Chris R
4th February 2007, 03:00
nice!! I have never seen that car in that configuration before... Goes to show just how much sdesign was seat of the pants in those days!!

Phoenixent
4th February 2007, 03:09
Story goes that Parnelli Jones had a the press at Phoenix for the unveiling and Al Unser drove it first on track. He pulled back in and he was white as a ghost according to Mario. Unser then told them tell the press the car broke as it is junk and would not drive it again until it was changed. After the changes it was a competitive car in 1972.

nanders
4th February 2007, 18:04
Guys, Please go ahead and post a new one .... My resources are as short as my time.

Chris R
5th February 2007, 16:58
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/omlxxxiv.jpg

ok, here a new one. something a little different.

where, when, driver of complete car.....

decartfan
5th February 2007, 17:46
Danny O.
LBGP 1984, Paddock in the convention center

Cool photo, do you have more like that?