Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

[Eki]

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html)


There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Stop being so prejudice to conservatives!



:p

[anthonyvop]

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html)

So low intelligence is linked to racism?

Doesn't that actually mean that Liberals are stupid? It is the left that has institutionalized racism.

[monadvspec]

So low intelligence is linked to racism?

Doesn't that actually mean that Liberals are stupid? It is the left that has institutionalized racism.

" Institutionalized racism", liberals? What type of institutionalization have the "liberals" been involved in, pray tell? Boy, those dang liberals in the 60's in Mississippi, Alabama,Arkansas and

pretty much the whole dang south of America were sure practicing some bleeding heart type of politics.

[anthonyvop]

" Institutionalized racism", liberals? What type of institutionalization have the "liberals" been involved in, pray tell? Boy, those dang liberals in the 60's in Mississippi, Alabama,Arkansas and

pretty much the whole dang south of America were sure practicing some bleeding heart type of politics.

I guess you have never heard of "affirmative action" or Racial quotas? Laws forcing decisions to be based solely on a person's race.

By its very definition Affirmative Action IS RACISM


rac·ism
   [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism)

[Knock-on]

When reading 'opinions' like Hodsons in a magazine of little note, it might prove to apply the tiniest amount of critical thinking to the article. Non?

To begin with, shall we look at how LiveScience defines Socially Conservative Ideologies? You can click on the link in the article or follow this one.

Conservatives Are More Squeamish than Liberals | Political Views & Biology | Same-Sex Marriage Views | Disgust Sensitivity & Disease Avoidance | LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/16746-conservatives-disgust-political-views.html)

Now, you can call me a Socially Conservative Ideologist (SCI) but if I pass a man shovelling a load of writhing worms into his mouth or encounter a festering, steaming pile of crap on my travels, I can assure you a pretty sincere 'Yuk' would escape my lips as well.

I don't know what's the opposite of a SCI but I would imagine they are the ones eating worms and ****ting everywhere and as such, would rather not be associated with them.

[Rudy Tamasz]

Okay, here's a correlation between IQ and political views. It would be nice to see if there's a correlation between wealth or prosperity and political views. It will be an interesting one.

[Bolton Midnight]

Nick Griffin may be a lot of things but thick he ain't. Ditto Enoch Powell or Oswald Mosley.

Greens and socialists tend to be more airheaded I find.

[Bolton Midnight]

Okay, here's a correlation between IQ and political views. It would be nice to see if there's a correlation between wealth or prosperity and political views. It will be an interesting one.

Yes left wingers are jealous types hence policies based solely on envy.

[Eki]

The poor and ignorant rednecks are usually very conservative and right wing, because they are stupid enough to believe in the American Dream and believe that everybody including them can get rich at will. Their greed and stupidity are excellent fuel for pyramid schemes and other scams.

[Bolton Midnight]

Americans are just generally a bit thick though so not really a good example. Remove the names of a map and more will point to Russia as where they live. A good section of them don't even have a passport.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Nick Griffin may be a lot of things but thick he ain't.

Is this the same Nick Griffin who only managed a 'Desmond' degree?

[monadvspec]

I guess you have never heard of "affirmative action" or Racial quotas? Laws forcing decisions to be based solely on a person's race.

By its very definition Affirmative Action IS RACISM



Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism)

Thank you Anthony. By definition YOU have shown where the racism is and it sure is not in the liberal ideology. It is the superior attitude of those of the conservative leaning whites that prevented the advancement of "colored" people.

Do you believe that DeKlerk was a liberal and that Apartheid was a liberal doctrine? If you do , it adds more credence to the point put for by the starter of this thread.

With your type of thinking Mother Theresa was a conservative. How could you rationalize that?

[Brown, Jon Brow]

With your type of thinking Mother Theresa was a conservative. How could you rationalize that?

That wouldn't be too difficult. She was very conservative.

[Captain VXR]

Nick Griffin may be a lot of things but thick he ain't. Ditto Enoch Powell or Oswald Mosley.

Most of their followers are very thick

I have to say I see more dumb comments on the Daily Mail site than the Guardian

[ioan]

So low intelligence is linked to racism?

Doesn't that actually mean that Liberals are stupid? It is the left that has institutionalized racism.

You're actually wrong. I wonder why.

[Bolton Midnight]

Is this the same Nick Griffin who only managed a 'Desmond' degree?

He probably spent too much time drinking with skinheads. He's a better orator than 90% of Labour politicians. Not that I agree with what he's saying but the BNP had a pretty meteoric rise under Labour. And of course most of his supporters are 'Old Labour' so of course they are thick.




I have to say I see more dumb comments on the Daily Mail site than the Guardian

Rather depends on your perspective. I'd say the opposite and I'm not even a Daily Wail fan. The fact the DM outsells the Guardian should tell you something, you're out of touch with reality.



With your type of thinking Mother Theresa was a conservative.

Certainly ugly enough. How much to bang that?

[ShiftingGears]

No YOU'RE stupid.



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[Captain VXR]

He probably spent too much time drinking with skinheads. He's a better orator than 90% of Labour politicians. Not that I agree with what he's saying but the BNP had a pretty meteoric rise under Labour. And of course most of his supporters are 'Old Labour' so of course they are thick.




Rather depends on your perspective. I'd say the opposite and I'm not even a Daily Wail fan. The fact the DM outsells the Guardian should tell you something, you're out of touch with reality.



Certainly ugly enough. How much to bang that?

just because the dm sells more copies doesn't mean it has a more intelligent readership.....
there's more refuse collectors than nuclear physicists, does it mean the refuse collectors have a higher average intelligence?

[fred2265]

Most of their followers are very thick

I have to say I see more dumb comments on the Daily Mail site than the GuardianLOL. True but I think many are parodying the typical Mail reader :)

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[Bolton Midnight]

just because the dm sells more copies doesn't mean it has a more intelligent readership.....
there's more refuse collectors than nuclear physicists, does it mean the refuse collectors have a higher average intelligence?

I didn't even say that, did I?

The DM is more in tune with the way the majority thinks, hence sells more - not that difficult to follow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M

sums up UK papers pretty spot on still.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

The DM is more in tune with the way the majority thinks, hence sells more - not that difficult to follow.
.

Do you always think that logically?

The Daily Fail, Express, and The Sun sell more because they have sensationalist headlines, the conservatives/low I.Q people are dumb enough to believe these headlines and buy them.

It's worth pointing out that a majority of people don't read a newspaper and the fastest growing paper is the left of center 'I'.

[monadvspec]

That wouldn't be too difficult. She was very conservative.

Is the distance between Lancaster and Preston greater than the distance between your ears. What an idiotic and uninformed remark pertaining to Mother Theresa.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Is the distance between Lancaster and Preston greater than the distance between your ears. What an idiotic and uninformed remark pertaining to Mother Theresa.

What were her views on abortion? Or contraceptives? Or female priests?

Roman Catholism is conservative in its nature. It is no coincidence that the rise of fascism in the early 20th century was in predominantly Catholic countries.

[Bob Riebe]

What an idiotic and uninformed remark pertaining to Mother Theresa.
Yes what you said above absolutely fits your rhetoric about her.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Even the Daily Mail reported this! :laugh:

Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says controversial study - and conservative politics can lead people to be racist | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html)

[F1boat]

The poor and ignorant rednecks are usually very conservative and right wing, because they are stupid enough to believe in the American Dream and believe that everybody including them can get rich at will. Their greed and stupidity are excellent fuel for pyramid schemes and other scams.

It is more sinister, really. The rednecks are puppets to their strange churches in the rural zones, which are almost as radical as the Taliban. And as the GOP connects religion with politics, the rednecks vote for them.
Check this site:
Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party (http://www.theocracywatch.org/)

[Garry Walker]

I have not met a liberal or a left-winger in my left who I could respect on an intellectual level or who I would take seriously enough to actually bother discussing the issues of life with. Most of them are insanely bitter and stupid people, who blame their failings on racism, sexism and everything else they can think of, never seeing anything wrong about the person looking at them in the mirror. It is not actually that they are all very stupid, they can do their math assignments well enough. It is just that no one of them has an understanding of life beyond what happens at university.


Yes left wingers are jealous types hence policies based solely on envy.
Jealous and bitter, they are both.

I guess you have never heard of "affirmative action" or Racial quotas? Laws forcing decisions to be based solely on a person's race.

By its very definition Affirmative Action IS RACISM
Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism)
Affirmative action is as racist as possible. But of course lefties are too stupid and worthless to understand that.


Most of their followers are very thick

I have to say I see more dumb comments on the Daily Mail site than the Guardian
I see more stupid articles on the bibles of lefties - the BBC and the guardian - than on DM.

[Bob Riebe]

It is more sinister, really. The rednecks are puppets to their strange churches in the rural zones, which are almost as radical as the Taliban. And as the GOP connects religion with politics, the rednecks vote for them.
Check this site:
Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party (http://www.theocracywatch.org/)Ah -Theocracy Watch-as the song says " paranoia strikes, deep into your life it will creep...."

A political version of a heresy hunter site- BRILLIANT!

[Brown, Jon Brow]

I have not met a liberal or a left-winger in my left who I could respect on an intellectual level

Ladies and gentlemen, the intellectual right-wing.

[Bob Riebe]

Not from the Wiki:
left-wing = the radical, reforming, or socialist section of a political party or system.
right-wing = the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system.

A gent on laugh-in used to say "Vely-vely intelesting."

[Eki]

I have not met a liberal or a left-winger in my left who I could respect on an intellectual level
That you are unable to do that probably tells more about you than about liberals and left-wingers.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

That you are unable to do that probably tells more about you than about liberals and left-wingers.

He hasn't met any in his 'left'.

Whatever that means.

[Eki]

He hasn't met any in his 'left'.

Whatever that means.
Maybe he's a hermit?

[Garry Walker]

He hasn't met any in his 'left'.

Whatever that means.I made a typo, a mistake. I am sure you know the feeling of making a mistake, in fact, I am sure your parents know it even better.


That you are unable to do that probably tells more about you than about liberals and left-wingers. Actually, my darling, it tells far more about liberals and their rabied beliefs.


Ladies and gentlemen, the intellectual right-wing.
How are things down at the car wash?


Maybe he's a hermit?
How is welfare these days, still paying well?

[BDunnell]

It is not actually that they are all very stupid, they can do their math assignments well enough.

Maths. Maths.

Please explain why I or anyone else should respect someone like you on an intellectual level? You are, with respect, no intellectual.

[BDunnell]

How are things down at the car wash?


How is welfare these days, still paying well?

Great banter, Garry! Keep it up!

[Bob Riebe]

Maths. Maths.

Please explain why I or anyone else should respect someone like you on an intellectual level? You are, with respect, no intellectual.If you are trying to use this as an excuse to challenge his intellect Mr. Dunnell, it does not say yours is any better.

Is “math” or “maths” the correct word to use as the shortened or colloquial form of the word mathematics? The answer is that it depends on where you are.

To North American speakers of English, the word to use is “math”, as in “I majored in math”, and “maths” would sound wrong. Speakers of British English, however, would always say “maths”, as in “I took a degree in maths”. They would never say “math”.

There are logical arguments for both spellings. The word “mathematics” can be considered as a singular and as a plural noun. Both the Oxford and the Merriam-Webster dictionaries say the word is plural – hence the s on the end – but also that it is usually used as if it was a singular noun. So, most people would say “mathematics is my best subject” and not “mathematics are my best subject”. The shortened form “maths”, then, makes sense because the word is still a plural noun and so should still have the “s” on the end. On the other hand, it could be argued, “math” makes sense because it seems wrong to remove the letters “ematic” from the middle of the word and leave the final “s”.

There are a number of other plural nouns that are used as if they were singular – for example economics, ethics, politics, gymnastics, measles and dominoes. These words, however, are not habitually shortened, making math/maths rather an unusual word.

It’s sometimes surprising how much argument and disagreement small differences such as that single letter can make. Readers in the UK, for example, sometimes get very upset if someone writes “math” rather than “maths”. No doubt the reverse is true in the US. In practice, it’s simply worth being aware of the geographical differences so that you can use the correct form of the word in your writing.

[Mintexmemory]

Not from the Wiki:


A gent on laugh-in used to say "Vely-vely intelesting."

You are getting your German and Japanese stereotypes confused: The character on Laugh-in (yes we did get it in the UK despite the lameness of much of its content) was a German (WW2 helmet) who said in a cod teutonic accent: 'Vairy interesting, but stoopid'.
Your Vely vely schtick is a remnant of the Japanese Airman character in propaganda-period Popeye cartoons (later reprised by Krusty the Clown).

[Rudy Tamasz]

That you are unable to do that probably tells more about you than about liberals and left-wingers.

Hey Eki, what's the story with Finland? Isn't that the country that has recently elected a right-wing financist for the pres as opposed to a left-wing gay environmentalist?

[Eki]

Hey Eki, what's the story with Finland? Isn't that the country that has recently elected a right-wing financist for the pres as opposed to a left-wing gay environmentalist?
Yes, Finland is not ready for a gay President. He still got about 35% of the votes, which is a lot for a gay environmentalist.

BTW, he's not considered left-wing in Finland, more like center or right from center. The Green Party is sometimes called the "park rangers of the Conservative Party".

[Eki]

Yes, Finland is not ready for a gay President. He still got about 35% of the votes, which is a lot for a gay environmentalist.

BTW, he's not considered left-wing in Finland, more like center or right from center. The Green Party is sometimes called the "park rangers of the Conservative Party".
Until 1971, it was illegal to be gay in Finland. Until 1981, it was considered a mental illness. So maybe within 20 years from now, Finland will be ready for a gay President.

[BDunnell]

Until 1971, it was illegal to be gay in Finland.

I find such laws very curious. When I was in Libya, was I breaking the law by being a gay person in the country, or would I merely have done so had I indulged in gay sex?

[Eki]

I find such laws very curious. When I was in Libya, was I breaking the law by being a gay person in the country, or would I merely have done so had I indulged in gay sex?

Curiously enough, said presidential candidate Pekka Haavisto has been working for the UN in countries like Afghanistan or Sudan. I'm sure they knew about him being gay in Afghanistan and Sudan , so they don't probably really care as long as he's up to his job:

Pekka Haavisto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekka_Haavisto)


From 1999 to 2005, Haavisto worked for the United Nations in various tasks. He led the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) research groups in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Liberia, Palestine and Sudan. He also coordinated the UN investigation in the effects of depleted uranium in Kosovo, Montenegro, Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.[4] Haavisto also represented the UNEP in the investigations in the Baia Mare mining accident in Romania.[5] In 2005 he was appointed as the special representative of the European Union in Sudan where he participated in the Darfur peace talks.[6] In 2007 and 2011 Haavisto was re-elected to the parliament from the electoral district of Helsinki.

[Dr. Krogshöj]

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

Well, duh!

[Garry Walker]

Maths. Maths.

Please explain why I or anyone else should respect someone like you on an intellectual level? You are, with respect, no intellectual.

Really is that the best that you can do? Is nitpicking on other people's grammar your biggest achievement?
English is not my native language and I do make mistakes in it. Why don't we speak in some other language, mr.intellectual and see how you do in those?


Great banter, Garry! Keep it up!

Yeah, funny you have no problems with what others said to me, yet you single me out. You just wouldn't be a hypocrite, would you, dunnell?

[Bob Riebe]

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

Well, duh!
Hmm, then why was it the Republicans (conservatives) that rammed through the civil rights reform in the U.S. over the Democrats (liberal) objections?


Makes that poll and any such statements seem pretty much like a jack-ass braying.

[Bob Riebe]

I find such laws very curious. When I was in Libya, was I breaking the law by being a gay person in the country, or would I merely have done so had I indulged in gay sex?
Such unknown or unenforced laws used to be (in the U.S. before police lost the right to use discretion in dealing with the populace) items that a police officer might use to tell a rowdy person "There are all sorts of laws I could right now use to throw your butt in jail if I wanted to. So go home and cool off/sober up."

Sadly both Dem. and Rep. parties have managed to turn police officers into robotic arrest machines, starting at the academy. (This has been told me by several retired police officers. With some retiring at an early age because they are sick of the new system.

[Jag_Warrior]

Hmm, then why was it the Republicans (conservatives) that rammed through the civil rights reform in the U.S. over the Democrats (liberal) objections?


Makes that poll and any such statements seem pretty much like a jack-ass braying.

It is truly, truly amazing how you just make things up, as if no one would call you out after making a ridiculous statement. Do you not realize that you are (again) proving the point being suggested in the OP?

It took me all of 30 seconds to find this and copy if from Wiki. So here is a breakdown of the vote on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, by party and by region:



By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America) in the American Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War). "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:


Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)[/*:m:resgeird]
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)[/*:m:resgeird]


Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)[/*:m:resgeird]
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)[/*:m:resgeird]
The Senate version:


Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)[/*:m:resgeird]
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)[/*:m:resgeird]
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)[/*:m:resgeird]
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)[/*:m:resgeird]



As one can easily see, Democrats in the north supported the legislation by a wider margin than Republicans in the north. And Democrats in the south supported the legislation by a wider margin that Republicans in the south.

But this was not about Democrat vs. Republican (as our pal Bob would have us believe). It was about region. After the Civil War, the "Party of Lincoln" (the Republican party) was about as popular as a mosquito at a picnic. But that all began to change when Democrats (in the north) began pushing for civil rights laws and began opposing various Jim Crow laws in the southern states. That's when many southern state flags were changed to include representations of the Confederate flag, when talk of "states rights" became popular again and when many southern Democrats began leaving the Democrat party and becoming Republicans.

Man, the last time I saw a reality distortion field like the ones Bob comes up with, a slim dude in a sweater was introducing something called an iPad up on a stage! :D

[BDunnell]

English is not my native language and I do make mistakes in it.

What is, may I ask?


Why don't we speak in some other language, mr.intellectual and see how you do in those?

Wir können naturlich auf Deutsch diskutieren.

[BDunnell]

Sadly both Dem. and Rep. parties have managed to turn police officers into robotic arrest machines, starting at the academy.

Indeed. They tend now to be people unable to command respect — not the sort of blind respect some feel the police should be afforded, but genuine respect — from any section of society. Not a good situation.

[Bob Riebe]

It is truly, truly amazing how you just make things up, as if no one would call you out after making a ridiculous statement. Do you not realize that you are (again) proving the point being suggested in the OP?

It took me all of 30 seconds to find this and copy if from Wiki. So here is a breakdown of the vote on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, by party and by region:




As one can easily see, Democrats in the north supported the legislation by a wider margin than Republicans in the north. And Democrats in the south supported the legislation by a wider margin that Republicans in the south.

But this was not about Democrat vs. Republican (as our pal Bob would have us believe). It was about region. After the Civil War, the "Party of Lincoln" (the Republican party) was about as popular as a mosquito at a picnic. But that all began to change when Democrats (in the north) began pushing for civil rights laws and began opposing various Jim Crow laws in the southern states. That's when many southern state flags were changed to include representations of the Confederate flag, when talk of "states rights" became popular again and when many southern Democrats began leaving the Democrat party and becoming Republicans.

Man, the last time I saw a reality distortion field like the ones Bob comes up with, a slim dude in a sweater was introducing something called an iPad up on a stage! :D Ah the Wiki, first source for gullible, and not very bright, world wide: meanwhile, from an article based on what was written in an old Times magazine: http://biggovernment.com/files/2010/05/1101640619_400.jpg
Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act much more than did the Democrats. Contrary to Democrat myth, Everett Dirksen (R-IL), the Senate Minority Leader – not President Lyndon Johnson – was the person most responsible for its passage. Mindful of how Democrat opposition had forced Republicans to weaken their 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts, President Johnson promised Republicans that he would publicly credit the GOP for its strong support. Johnson played no role in the legislative fight. In the House of Representatives, the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed with 80% support from Republicans but only 63% support from Democrats.

In the Senate, Dirksen had no trouble rounding up the votes of most Republicans, and former presidential candidate Richard Nixon lobbied hard for passage. On the Democrat side, the Senate leadership did support the bill, while the chief opponents were Senators Sam Ervin (D-NC), Al Gore (D-TN) and Robert Byrd (D-WV). Senator Byrd, whom Democrats still call “the conscience of the Senate,” filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act for fourteen straight hours. At a meeting held in his office, Dirksen modified the bill so it could be passed despite Democrat opposition. He strongly condemned the Democrat-led 57-day filibuster: “The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied. It is here!”

Along with most other political leaders at the time, Johnson, credited Dirksen for getting the bill passed: “The Attorney General said that you were very helpful and did an excellent job… I’ll see that you get proper attention and credit.” At the time, for instance, The Chicago Defender, a renowned African-American newspaper, praised Senator Dirksen for leading passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The struggle for civil rights was not finished, however, as most southern states remained under the control of segregationist Democrat governors, such as George Wallace (D-AL), Orval Faubus (D-AR) and Lester Maddox (D-GA). Full enforcement of the 1964 Civil Rights Act would not arrive until the Republican political ascendancy in the South during the 1980s.

[janvanvurpa]

English is not my native language and I do make mistakes in it. Why don't we speak in some other language, mr.intellectual and see how you do in those?





And how are we supposed to know that?
If you used your real name, and maybe flew a flag by your name we might have a better idea and those who tend to want to nitpick might take that into consideration..

So which language would you feel more comfortable in?

[janvanvurpa]

Truth is there just weren't that many Republigoons in office then
House: D 248, R 172
Senate D 67, R 33

Only in a psychotic Bizzarro World could anybody suggest with a straight face that the Rebubligoons "Rammed through" the civil right bill...

Riebe's fantasy based claims pretty much proves the point of this thread, as if there was any doubt.

[Jag_Warrior]

Ah the Wiki, first source for gullible, and not very bright, world wide: meanwhile, from an article based on what was written in an old Times magazine:

So you are claiming that the data provided in the Wiki is factually incorrect. And yet, it was compiled from the Congressional voting record. So Bob, post the data that you have which disproves what I posted. If that data is incorrect, and the regional voting pattern is incorrect, then post the correct data for all of us to see.

Also, please notice that in your post you claimed that the Democrats who opposed the civil rights legislation were "liberal" and the Republicans were "conservative". And yet, by the very Time article that you posted, that silly assertion is not supported... because it is just another of your simple fantasies. George Wallace was a "liberal"? Really?

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

I offer our friend Bob as Exhibit #1... and rest my case.

[Bob Riebe]

So you are claiming that the data provided in the Wiki is factually incorrect. And yet, it was compiled from the Congressional voting record. So Bob, post the data that you have which disproves what I posted. If that data is incorrect, and the regional voting pattern is incorrect, then post the correct data for all of us to see.

Also, please notice that in your post you claimed that the Democrats who opposed the civil rights legislation were "liberal" and the Republicans were "conservative". And yet, by the very Time article that you posted, that silly assertion is not supported... because it is just another of your simple fantasies. George Wallace was a "liberal"? Really?

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

I offer our friend Bob as Exhibit #1... and rest my case.
Don't blame me I am using the standard of conservatives vs liberals this asinine thread is based on.

I said nothing of the accuracy of your wiki post, I merely stated that going quickly to wiki as a primary source to support a rhetoric is lame at best and 30 seconds of foolish at worst.

You were babbling about the Rep. not pushing through the civil rights bill and the article says you are wrong period.
How many hours did the Dem. filibuster.?
Wasn't Sheets Byrd, the one so lovingly trumped up by liberals for the past forty decades leading the charge?
You are the one that made this moronic statement It is truly, truly amazing how you just make things up, the article makes you look like a fool for making it, and it only took 30 seconds for you to do it, so what is your point here?

Wow, if I have low IQ at least I can blame it on conservatism, in today's world that would qualify for a disease; whereas your reason for being insensate is you were born that way. Too bad you had such misfortune in your genes.

[Bob Riebe]

Truth is there just weren't that many Republigoons in office then
House: D 248, R 172
Senate D 67, R 33

Only in a psychotic Bizzarro World could anybody suggest with a straight face that the Rebubligoons "Rammed through" the civil right bill...

Riebe's fantasy based claims pretty much proves the point of this thread, as if there was any doubt.My word, so Times magazine is a bizzarro publication?

I think you live in that world, so your voice of it is one of authority.

Try harder next time sonny.

[Jag_Warrior]

Don't blame me I am using the standard of conservatives vs liberals this asinine thread is based on.

So it's typical for you to just follow along... like a sheep? Party does not (or hasn't always) define political ideology. But to people who run around using the word "RINO" and expect lock-step loyalty and NO QUESTIONS to be asked, maybe it does.

But IMO, that's a good thing. It helps create more independents who aren't lemmings and slaves to parties.


I said nothing of the accuracy of your wiki post, I merely stated that going quickly to wiki as a primary source to support a rhetoric is lame at best and 30 seconds of foolish at worst.

Whether it's a Wiki entry or Ned the Janitor, if the data is valid, it is valid. In fact, you're very much like Ned the Janitor. And yet, I still talk to you, don't I? Seldom is your data valid, but you're still entertaining for a chat up. And being that the original source of this data was the Congressional record (and available for review or further dissemination there), why would I spend more than 30 seconds (re)assembling something that you are incapable of truly comprehending anyway?


You were babbling about the Rep. not pushing through the civil rights bill and the article says you are wrong period.

What I pointed out was that the vote for the 1964 Civil Rights Act was not at all what you were trying to spin it as: a simpleton's issue of "the good, conservative Republicans vs. the bad, liberal Democrats." In truth, the vote came down to region, NOT party. The Act passed because a large majority of members of BOTH parties in the north supported it, while virtually no members (0 Republicans, by the way) in the south did.

Nice try though.



You are the one that made this moronic statement It is truly, truly amazing how you just make things up, the article makes you look like a fool for making it, and it only took 30 seconds for you to do it, so what is your point here?

Apparently that you have great difficulties with basic math.



Wow, if I have low IQ at least I can blame it on conservatism, in today's world that would qualify for a disease; whereas your reason for being insensate is you were born that way. Too bad you had such misfortune in your genes.

Well Bob, just think... that a man as "insensate" (always a treat to watch a barely literate goof use a $5 word to express a 50 cent thought) as I am can have this level of success, should give hope to those of your ilk. Some day, some way, you might go from that single wide with the wheels still attached to a double wide with a fake rock foundation! Hells yeah! :bounce:

[Bob Riebe]

Well Bob, just think... that a man as "insensate" (always a treat to watch a barely literate goof use a $5 word to express a 50 cent thought) as I am can have this level of success, should give hope to those of your ilk. Some day, some way, you might go from that single wide with the wheels still attached to a double wide with a fake rock foundation! Hells yeah! :bounce:

Is it your level of success that causes you to reply with such demeanor/our, or do you continually work at it?

[Jag_Warrior]

Is it your level of success that causes you to reply with such demeanor/our, or do you continually work at it?

Not sure what it is, Bobo. I was actually this way before I'd made any money. It's probably that people like you just bring out "the best" in me. :)

Or maybe... Rome fell and I blame people like you for taking us into the Dark Ages. If you believe in past lives or reincarnation, maybe I'm still holding a grudge from something that happened a couple thousand years ago. Tell ya what... let's go to the zoo together, I'll throw you into a lion's cage (like old times) and we'll call it even. What do ya say, old stick? Deal? Sleep on it and get back to me.

[Rudy Tamasz]

Until 1971, it was illegal to be gay in Finland. Until 1981, it was considered a mental illness. So maybe within 20 years from now, Finland will be ready for a gay President.

Chances are, by that time public tastes will swing towards somebody like a Muslim of Somalian origin, whose parents were illegal migrants and who made his career in hashish dealing and whose relatives fight American imperialists on High Seas. By that time the gay-left-environmentalist thing will be about as fashionable as disco, six-liter engines and cheap sci-fi movies are today.

[Eki]

Chances are, by that time public tastes will swing towards somebody like a Muslim of Somalian origin, whose parents were illegal migrants and who made his career in hashish dealing and whose relatives fight American imperialists on High Seas. By that time the gay-left-environmentalist thing will be about as fashionable as disco, six-liter engines and cheap sci-fi movies are today.
Slim chance. I don't believe that's going to happen. There aren't that many illegal immigrants, or even legal immigrants, coming to Finland to make a difference.

[Rudy Tamasz]

How many people like Haavisto were there around in Finnish politics 20 years ago? In the words of Bob Dylan, times, they are a-changing.

And then, I sense a cold note in your response. Are you not comfortable with Somalian refugees? Muslims? Is that sort of attitude typical of Finns?

[Eki]

How many people like Haavisto were there around in Finnish politics 20 years ago? In the words of Bob Dylan, times, they are a-changing.
Gay politicians: I don't know. Openly gay politicians: None. Now there are 4 openly gay members of parliament, one of them is black and one of them is a woman. Times do change, but rarely backwards.


And then, I sense a cold note in your response. Are you not comfortable with Somalian refugees? Muslims? Is that sort of attitude typical of Finns?
I'm comfortable with the current number of refugees and the current rate of immigration. Some Finns are not. I don't know which opinion is typical, but those who aren't, certainly make more noise and headlines. They sound like Finland is flooded with Muslim immigrants and the end of the World or at least the Western civilization is near.

[Bob Riebe]

Not sure what it is, Bobo. I was actually this way before I'd made any money. It's probably that people like you just bring out "the best" in me. :)

Or maybe... Rome fell and I blame people like you for taking us into the Dark Ages. If you believe in past lives or reincarnation, maybe I'm still holding a grudge from something that happened a couple thousand years ago. Tell ya what... let's go to the zoo together, I'll throw you into a lion's cage (like old times) and we'll call it even. What do ya say, old stick? Deal? Sleep on it and get back to me.
Sounds good to me.
I will loudly sing What a friend we have in Jesus as I give the Lions a flea bath.

[janvanvurpa]

My word, so Times magazine is a bizzarro publication?

I think you live in that world, so your voice of it is one of authority.

Try harder next time sonny.

No, as usual, due to single digit IQ you miissed the point.
The POINT Boobby-boy, is that you claimed insanely enough that the Rebubligoons "Rammed thru" the Civil Rights Act...

Has somebody rammed thru with a No2 Phillips----your ears?

Or do you simply forget your blather you wring, boy?

[Bob Riebe]

No, as usual, due to single digit IQ you miissed the point.
The POINT Boobby-boy, is that you claimed insanely enough that the Rebubligoons "Rammed thru" the Civil Rights Act...

Has somebody rammed thru with a No2 Phillips----your ears?

Or do you simply forget your blather you wring, boy?Despite the fifty plus hours of attempted filibuster, the Republicans still managed to ram through the bill
Try harder next time.

[janvanvurpa]

Despite the fifty plus hours of attempted filibuster, the Republicans still managed to ram through the bill
Try harder next time.
No sonny boy, try thinking rather than regurgitating the one fragment of the article:
A minority does not force something thru..

It was a near straight geographic vote as anybody who was around then know, sonny.

The South, home to vicious rabid, inbred racists, nearly all voted against it.
The rest of the country, even the Republicans---who by today's standards would have asylum-escapees like you calling them Socialist Nazis communists---voted for it because it was time, it was in fact a hundred years late...

Rather than making a further idiot of yourself, you could attempt to illustrate how that one vote laid the first foundation stone in the building of the modern Republigoon Partei as all the former "Dixie-crats" abandoned their senses and became the core Bible thumping, morals lecturing---while cheating on their wives, sining and whoring---hyper Patriotic ---from the region that is most apart and which brought years of savage warfare trying to destroy the Copuntry---which now sucks up the vast majortity of Federal Grants and payments....of ALL sorts...

But nobody spoon fed you that so you couldn't possibly comment.
Boy.

[Garry Walker]

What is, may I ask?Of course you may.



Wir können naturlich auf Deutsch diskutieren.Among others, I speak a bit of german too. Not that well to start writing in it on a forum though.
It is funny how you had nothing to respond to my comment calling you a hypocrite.


And how are we supposed to know that?
If you used your real name, and maybe flew a flag by your name we might have a better idea and those who tend to want to nitpick might take that into consideration..

LOL. I am not going to use my real name just to please a couple of anal nitwits.


So which language would you feel more comfortable in? Don't worry, I am comfortable enough speaking english.


Slim chance. I don't believe that's going to happen. There aren't that many illegal immigrants, or even legal immigrants, coming to Finland to make a difference.
Having been to Helsinki not that long ago, well, it sure doesn't look like that. The amount of obvious immigrants I saw was just astounding.

[Bob Riebe]

No sonny boy, try thinking rather than regurgitating the one fragment of the article:
A minority does not force something thru..

It was a near straight geographic vote as anybody who was around then know, sonny.

The South, home to vicious rabid, inbred racists, nearly all voted against it.
The rest of the country, even the Republicans---who by today's standards would have asylum-escapees like you calling them Socialist Nazis communists---voted for it because it was time, it was in fact a hundred years late...

Rather than making a further idiot of yourself, you could attempt to illustrate how that one vote laid the first foundation stone in the building of the modern Republigoon Partei as all the former "Dixie-crats" abandoned their senses and became the core Bible thumping, morals lecturing---while cheating on their wives, sining and whoring---hyper Patriotic ---from the region that is most apart and which brought years of savage warfare trying to destroy the Copuntry---which now sucks up the vast majortity of Federal Grants and payments....of ALL sorts...

But nobody spoon fed you that so you couldn't possibly comment.
Boy.My, my,my Times magazine gives credit to Republicans for getting it passed and that just grinds your political bias to the point you are saying you do not need the truth to continue foment hatred.

I will do what a little voice from internet heaven said and just move on.

Prattle on.

[Eki]

Having been to Helsinki not that long ago, well, it sure doesn't look like that. The amount of obvious immigrants I saw was just astounding.
What kind of amount do you find astounding? And how do you tell immigrants apart from foreign students and tourists?

About 7% of the inhabitants of Helsinki are foreign born. Of the whole population of Finland about 3% are foreign born. The biggest foreigner groups are Russians, Estonians and Swedes.

There are about 5500 Somalians in the whole Finland (about 0.1% of the population). Even if they all lived in Helsinki, it would be only about 1% of the Helsinki residents.

[janvanvurpa]

My, my,my Times magazine gives credit to Republicans for getting it passed and that just grinds your political bias to the point you are saying you do not need the truth to continue foment hatred.

I will do what a little voice from internet heaven said and just move on.

Prattle on.

Numbers numb-nuts, numbers, Times can say what ever they wanted to, but laws are not passed on what a magazines says, boy.
Laws are passed by Representatives and Senators casting votes and the president signing them...

Back to 7th Grade Civics glass...Or did you drop out before that?

[janvanvurpa]

What kind of amount do you find astounding? And how do you tell immigrants apart from foreign students and tourists?

About 7% of the inhabitants of Helsinki are foreign born. Of the whole population of Finland about 3% are foreign born. The biggest foreigner groups are Russians, Estonians and Swedes.

There are about 5500 Somalians in the whole Finland (about 0.1% of the population). Even if they all lived in Helsinki, it would be only about 1% of the Helsinki residents.


That's terrible! You're being overrun! All the Americans were right, it IS The Islamic Republic of Europe!

Have you guys thought about building a wall?

[Garry Walker]

What kind of amount do you find astounding? And how do you tell immigrants apart from foreign students and tourists?

About 7% of the inhabitants of Helsinki are foreign born. Of the whole population of Finland about 3% are foreign born. The biggest foreigner groups are Russians, Estonians and Swedes.

There are about 5500 Somalians in the whole Finland (about 0.1% of the population). Even if they all lived in Helsinki, it would be only about 1% of the Helsinki residents.

5500 somalis? LOL. I probably saw more somalis than that in my time there.

[Eki]

5500 somalis? LOL. I probably saw more somalis than that in my time there.
Most likely you didn't. You just felt that way. Most of them are unemployed and have time to hang around downtown Helsinki in places like the railroad station. If you happen to be in a place where they gather it may seem that they are more than they really are. In some other parts of Helsinki you wouldn't have seen any of them. You also probably saw the same somalis many times.