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Managarium
27th April 2025, 18:28
So, consecutive point - scoring is over.
On Rally Islas Canarias both, Munster and McErlean scored zero points.
If I'm not mistaken, it was run of 309 rallies.
WRCStan
27th April 2025, 19:34
It's manufacturers points isn't it? Run is still on.
Humber
27th April 2025, 20:48
Munster's car should have picked up 4 Manufacturer's points for M-Sport from Canarias.
WRCStan
27th April 2025, 22:12
11 Manufacturers points
deephouse
28th April 2025, 04:43
If at least Munster would be quiet. He is all over how he will be good and so on. And he always is nowhere, and bin the car at the end
flat_right
28th April 2025, 20:38
If at least Munster would be quiet. He is all over how he will be good and so on. And he always is nowhere, and bin the car at the end
I have never ever seen or heard Munster saying this :D Like for real, I follow rally quite a bit but this is news for me.
TypeR
29th April 2025, 06:08
Even at the end of the rally he said that now it's done and can start preparing for Portugal.
Interviewer asked if he at least will enjpy pool later..
Munster answered that he doesn't know if they deserve it.
Haven't never heard him bragging like that..
Fast Eddie WRC
29th April 2025, 09:38
Yes, he always seems a pretty humble guy. But drivers have to have some self-confidence and belief otherwise they have no chance.
Fast Eddie WRC
16th June 2025, 18:30
Podcast including interview with Josh McErlean on the move to Rally1 after half a year:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YwGcbQAxVV0EQXhjORMeG?si=xm34JgTATICXUZIjWnAPbA
Jarek Z
29th June 2025, 18:37
This doesn't look good. But, with such drivers, what can one expect?
https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1939347945289036270
focus206
29th June 2025, 19:13
This doesn't look good. But, with such drivers, what can one expect?
https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1939347945289036270
Although this time Munster was doing reasonably good, but had to retire for technical problems.
macebig
30th June 2025, 19:40
M-Sport need to rethink the Puma program. It's pointless to go through 2025 and 2026 like that. They need to sit down with Ford and Red Bull and clear things up. Either they get the budget for at least one competitive entry or they should call it a day and focus on Rally 2 or the new car from 2027 if Ford wants to keep going. It's not like they don't have a ton of programmes lined up. They have Dakar, the Mustang GT3 and remains to be seen if M-Sport is involved in the LMDh effort. Driving around aimlessly ain't helping anyone.
Sulland
19th July 2025, 07:31
They need to spend some money to get a good driver for a rally or two, to prove to Ford and sponsors that one driver on a salary is needed to improve the car and the junior drivers. Now the drivers are simply not good enough!!
Managarium
20th July 2025, 06:35
What money?
M-Sport is largely financed by selling lower categories cars.
How many Rally2 Fiestas have you seen in last couple of years in WRC and ERC events?
Rally3 is better for them because there is not much of other manufacturers competition, but in Rally4 is nowadays a very big competition.
Managarium
20th July 2025, 06:35
What money?
M-Sport is largely financed by selling lower categories cars.
How many Rally2 Fiestas have you seen in last couple of years in WRC, ERC and national events?
Rally3 is better for them because there is not much of other manufacturers competition, but in Rally4 is nowadays a very big competition.
Sulland
20th July 2025, 10:19
What money?
M-Sport is largely financed by selling lower categories cars.
How many Rally2 Fiestas have you seen in last couple of years in WRC, ERC and national events?
Rally3 is better for them because there is not much of other manufacturers competition, but in Rally4 is nowadays a very big competition.
I agree.
But selling cars comes from results. If you have only talents, and not a few drivers that has proven themselves, and can help in development, you stay where you are, or could move in the wrong direction. But I agree, MSport is in a catch 22 situation right now.
PLuto
20th July 2025, 10:59
How many Rally2 Fiestas have you seen in last couple of years in WRC, ERC and national events?
Problem is that they were not so much interested in development Rally2 Fiesta. Biggest issue of this car was engine, which was very weak from beginning. Everybody knew it from beginning, but M-Sport didnt made any important improvement, so lot of teams moved to different brand. And to say the truth, brexit also didnt helped...
Fast Eddie WRC
20th July 2025, 11:59
M-Sport had to prioritise their limited budget. They had to build and develop the new Puma Rally1 car and employ some top drivers like Loeb, Breen and Tanak.
Its obvious that they couldn't spend a lot on the Rally2 Fiesta too, although they did some upgrades and Fourmaux did well in it in 2023.
Since then the Fiesta has discontinued by Ford so it made little sense to throw more money at it as a rally car.
PLuto
20th July 2025, 12:25
M-Sport had to prioritise their limited budget. They had to build and develop the new Puma Rally1 car and employ some top drivers like Loeb, Breen and Tanak.
Its obvious that they couldn't spend a lot on the Rally2 Fiesta too, although they did some upgrades and Fourmaux did well in it in 2023.
Since then the Fiesta has discontinued by Ford so it made little sense to throw more money at it as a rally car.
Only excuses. If they are living from selling cars to private customers, they should concentrate to Rally2 category. Their car is not bad, it had perfect chassis and suspension, but engine was biggest problem. They were promising to their customers this disadvantage will be "corrected", but nothing happened, so everybody left. And new customers were not interested in buying the car...
Gordini
20th July 2025, 14:34
Maybe give Solberg a ring to see if he would drive a rally or two for them ?
He has driven the best, so he could guide.
Dontcut
20th July 2025, 14:49
Maybe give Solberg a ring to see if he would drive a rally or two for them ?
He has driven the best, so he could guide.
Is this Red Bull and Monster Energy conflict only reason why can't this happen?
240RS
20th July 2025, 17:47
Oliver Solberg was brilliant all weekend. That goes without saying.
What was equally pleasant to hear were the words of Kalle Rovanpera whenever he was asked about Oliver's performance. Not once did he attempt to disparage or downplay what was truly great drive. He analysed Solberg's merits with maturity and even offered snippets that few would have. That was class. He scored big in my mind.
Doon
20th July 2025, 18:57
Why would Oliver solberg, the man who has just won Rally Estonia, want to drive a sh1tbox of an m-sport car? He's quicker than their Rally 1 drivers in a Rally 2 car.
Päss1928
21st July 2025, 10:50
Why would Oliver solberg, the man who has just won Rally Estonia, want to drive a sh1tbox of an m-sport car? He's quicker than their Rally 1 drivers in a Rally 2 car.
Agree, makes no sense to go for a Rally1 drive in M-Sport now.
Fast Eddie WRC
21st July 2025, 12:53
The issue, as always, is money. All the M-Sport drivers need to bring some support. And the Solbergs (like Mikkelsen) dont believe they should pay to drive.
The clash with Monster Energy wouldn't be an issue if they hired a Puma and ran it themselves.
trykmann
21st July 2025, 13:32
Regarding their cars and results, then this season and 2026 seem to be something, they just have to get over with. As we all know their Rally1 is behind their competitors and the interest for privateers to buy their Rally2 cars is gone already for a long time. I hope the 2027 regulations with the implemented cost cap will suit them and the new Rally1 cars will be competitive and popular with privateers. This way they won't fall behind with development and maybe will be able to hire at least one fast driver.
saco0o
21st August 2025, 17:33
the rally division in Msport is hiring: Event Electrical Technician, Quality Control Supervisor, Machine Shop Supervisor, Shell Fabricator, Transmission Tech, HSE Manager
wrc27?
deephouse
22nd August 2025, 14:47
They are always hiring. I saw various positions by them every single year. I guess some people leave because that world have literally no free time. Especially those who travel with the team.
Fast Eddie WRC
22nd August 2025, 17:45
I hope you're right about M-Sport being ready to build a WRC27 Car. We need somebody other than Toyota to confirm ASAP and let us see this thing is actually going ahead and give hope for a decent future for the WRC.
Fast Eddie WRC
5th September 2025, 15:57
Ford Performance is now Ford Racing ...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-performance-rebranded-it-primes-road-going-racers
Andre Oliveira
5th September 2025, 16:25
... again
AndyRAC
6th September 2025, 10:36
Ford Performance is now Ford Racing ...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-performance-rebranded-it-primes-road-going-racers
Won't really affect the WRC, or M-Sport. There was a recent event with Ford Performance, and their drivers.......and obviously, none of the WRC guys were there - as they're M-Sport, not Ford contracted drivers.......The poor relation couldn't be more stark.
rallyfiend
6th September 2025, 13:00
Won't really affect the WRC, or M-Sport. There was a recent event with Ford Performance, and their drivers.......and obviously, none of the WRC guys were there - as they're M-Sport, not Ford contracted drivers.......The poor relation couldn't be more stark.
I think Josh and Gregoire are in North Carolina fir the week between rallies to visit the Ford Performance Technical Centre
Fast Eddie WRC
6th September 2025, 13:16
Won't really affect the WRC, or M-Sport. There was a recent event with Ford Performance, and their drivers.......and obviously, none of the WRC guys were there - as they're M-Sport, not Ford contracted drivers.......The poor relation couldn't be more stark.
Ford Racing still see M-Sport as part of them ...
https://www.fordracing.com/motorsport/rally-racing
Fast Eddie WRC
8th September 2025, 10:02
ICYMI - M-Sport won the ERC / BRC Rali Ceredigion with Jon Armstrong. In fact it was a 1-2 with Romet Jurgenson in the sister Fiesta Rally2. :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0Qv9jxW8AEJQma?format=jpg&name=small
macebig
8th September 2025, 20:41
Both the Puma and the Fiesta are competitive under the right circumstances. But, it's definitely a crossroad for M-Sport and Ford. They either invest on a new car for 2027 with a proven driver behind the wheel or call a day. Possibly withdrawing from Rally 1 and focusing on the rumored Puma Rally 2 is another option.
TypeR
9th September 2025, 06:58
Poems are nice :)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOUFu_XjBti/?igsh=N2VxbDJmazlqdDds
(Warning - f word used in poem)
Doon
6th November 2025, 12:14
With only two events left, this could be the first time ever that the M-Sport run Ford team hasn't scored a podium. I looked back as far as 1997 (when MW took over operation of the Ford team), and every year they have been on the podium at least once, unless i'm mistaken?
focus206
6th November 2025, 12:58
With only two events left, this could be the first time ever that the M-Sport run Ford team hasn't scored a podium. I looked back as far as 1997 (when MW took over operation of the Ford team), and every year they have been on the podium at least once, unless i'm mistaken?
In 2021 with Suninen-Greensmith-Fourmaux they didn't achieve a podium either. Better results on average than this year, though.
deephouse
6th November 2025, 13:57
And yet many great and more promising drivers are sitting at home and watching those two struggle against being on the road at all.
Fast Eddie WRC
6th November 2025, 17:31
And yet many great and more promising drivers are sitting at home and watching those two struggle against being on the road at all.
That's why we need cheaper cars and more teams. Only elite factory drivers and those with super-rich backers can get a seat in a Rally1.
But no-one should be 'sitting at home'. A Raĺly2 Car is a much cheaper way to show your speed.
deephouse
6th November 2025, 18:54
Agree, I miss those times when there were many seats available in manufacturer cars and then besides them many privateers who actually show some promising times.
saco0o
23rd November 2025, 21:22
no videos of nasser al athyah testing the puma?
saco0o
30th November 2025, 11:17
well, sesks was leading a rally and nasser did finished ahead of both msports in some of the first stages...
does this mean msport has really bad drivers in munster and josh or is there other explanation?
Managarium
30th November 2025, 11:50
I thought also just like you. But, on the penultimate stage in Saudi Arabia, when Martinš's Puma died with engine problem, I don't know what to think anymore.
deephouse
30th November 2025, 14:02
It just shows that if Sesks will be given full season and proper testing, he could be right in the middle, podium(s), or even challenge for win. He is almost on level of Katsuta and Fourmaux if the things are right.
Sulland
30th November 2025, 14:15
well, sesks was leading a rally and nasser did finished ahead of both msports in some of the first stages...
does this mean msport has really bad drivers in munster and josh or is there other explanation?
IMO none of their regular drivers have the needed experience or talent to master a Rally1 car. And you see this once a good driver takes the wheel of a Puma. Loeb and Sesks have made it work, so car is ok.
trykmann
30th November 2025, 14:48
Puma does have performace issues on some surfaces, but regarding the overall pace with proper drivers a top5 finish should be possible in almost all events.
deephouse
30th November 2025, 15:39
Hyundai seems work well also on extreme conditions, while on "normal" it's complete garbage. Kinda like Lada Niva car. Puma needs just right drivers. Munster (and too soon to say McErlean) just aren't. Also sorry for saying that, but nobody out of those two don't show any potential even for future.
AndersX
30th November 2025, 17:18
I do not agree on McErlean - i think he has a speed to be on Katsutas level at least. He has shown some potential.
Typ85
30th November 2025, 17:33
0 stage wins in full season for McErlean + many crashes... very talented... if someone needs an Irish driver in that Puma, give Meeke a chance.. he will be minutes ahead of Josh in the same car... sadly its all about the money
WRCStan
30th November 2025, 17:37
Any full season M-Sport driver goes at 80%. The other 20% is Malcolm on the brake pedal.
AndersX
30th November 2025, 17:38
Any full season M-Sport driver goes at 80%. The other 20% is Malcolm on the brake pedal.
This
Typ85
30th November 2025, 17:48
Too much braking...
deephouse
30th November 2025, 18:05
I do not agree on McErlean - i think he has a speed to be on Katsutas level at least. He has shown some potential.
Sorry but not even close. Sesks was driving this car far less, half the season for both years, probably not much testing if ever and at least shows some speed, talent and good times... Also he beat all for many times straight away. In Saudi he clearly shows that he is not fast only on Latvian or fast gravel rallies. I mean it's too soon saying that McErlean isn't the right one for WRC, but if he gets another season at the top level, he should be staying on road all the time and show some good times. Personally I think that both Munster and McErlean should be put in BRC, ERC or maybe WRC2 with Fiesta and maybe come back stronger. Those two pumas should be driving with someone who actually deliver good results for team. If results would come, the team could have extra motivation to get something to fight those two without spending money.
AndersX
30th November 2025, 18:55
Sorry but not even close. Sesks was driving this car far less, half the season for both years, probably not much testing if ever and at least shows some speed, talent and good times... Also he beat all for many times straight away. In Saudi he clearly shows that he is not fast only on Latvian or fast gravel rallies. I mean it's too soon saying that McErlean isn't the right one for WRC, but if he gets another season at the top level, he should be staying on road all the time and show some good times. Personally I think that both Munster and McErlean should be put in BRC, ERC or maybe WRC2 with Fiesta and maybe come back stronger. Those two pumas should be driving with someone who actually deliver good results for team. If results would come, the team could have extra motivation to get something to fight those two without spending money.
I noted McErlean in Poland ERC and Latvia ERC in 2023. Sesks dominated, but McErlean was constantly posting top5 times with Paddon, Ostberg, Heikkila and Marzcik in competition. Considering that he comes from tarmac background, it was rather noticeable performance. I believe that he can be very good WRC driver, just with time and some green light to push a bit more from M-Sport.
Kenneth
30th November 2025, 19:50
0 stage wins in full season for McErlean + many crashes... very talented... if someone needs an Irish driver in that Puma, give Meeke a chance.. he will be minutes ahead of Josh in the same car... sadly its all about the money
Yup, that would for sure help with the lack of young drivers in WRC! Don't you by a chance work for Hyundai?
giu canbera
30th November 2025, 21:10
I thought McErlean would show some bits of brilliance here and there more or less like Jon Armstrong in ERC but nope.
Me, a non Brit-Irish always cheering for Brits-Irish.
spark13
30th November 2025, 21:21
Sorry but not even close. Sesks was driving this car far less, half the season for both years, probably not much testing if ever and at least shows some speed, talent and good times... Also he beat all for many times straight away. In Saudi he clearly shows that he is not fast only on Latvian or fast gravel rallies. I mean it's too soon saying that McErlean isn't the right one for WRC, but if he gets another season at the top level, he should be staying on road all the time and show some good times. Personally I think that both Munster and McErlean should be put in BRC, ERC or maybe WRC2 with Fiesta and maybe come back stronger. Those two pumas should be driving with someone who actually deliver good results for team. If results would come, the team could have extra motivation to get something to fight those two without spending money.
I agree with you, but I don't think we can compare them in this way.
They have very different base and setup conditions.
McErlean have the budget and support, he is already 'there', Noone to impress.
He use smart steady strategy - learn the events, gain experience, and constantly developing on second year, which already guaranteed for him in the team.
For Sesks its completely different, he needs that WOW factor to attract one big or several sponsors to get to the top tier by the money, or convince big team that its worth to give him a contract. Sure, they already noticed him way before, but as its so few places now he needs to keep pushing all in and try to impress again and again to be 'visible'.
Fast Eddie WRC
1st December 2025, 13:28
Sorry but not even close. Sesks was driving this car far less, half the season for both years, probably not much testing if ever and at least shows some speed, talent and good times... Also he beat all for many times straight away. In Saudi he clearly shows that he is not fast only on Latvian or fast gravel rallies. I mean it's too soon saying that McErlean isn't the right one for WRC, but if he gets another season at the top level, he should be staying on road all the time and show some good times. Personally I think that both Munster and McErlean should be put in BRC, ERC or maybe WRC2 with Fiesta and maybe come back stronger. Those two pumas should be driving with someone who actually deliver good results for team. If results would come, the team could have extra motivation to get something to fight those two without spending money.
Nice idea, but M-Sport dont have the budget to pay for better level drivers. Plus those sort wont drive for free and wont get sponsors to pay for them either as there's going to be no ROI.
cmac
1st December 2025, 16:25
I think Malcolm has already found his next project in Romet Jurgenson. I expect to see him as one of msport 2 drivers in 2027 season. Will be interesting to see what schedule Malc gives him in 2026.
Morte66
2nd December 2025, 18:18
Do we know if M-Sport has any sort of contractual hold on Sesks? I had the impression that there are no ties, he rents a car when he can get the money together.
If he got an offer from Hyundai, which seems plausible, I imagine he would be able to take it. Do we know anything to the contrary?
Morte66
2nd December 2025, 18:20
Do we know if M-Sport has any sort of contractual hold on Sesks? I had the impression that there are no ties, he rents a car when he can get the money together. Maybe there's a small "percentage of future earnings deal", but he hasn't driven for them that much so they shouldn't have too many hooks in him.
If he got an offer from Hyundai, which seems plausible, I imagine he would be able to take it. Do we know anything to the contrary?
deephouse
2nd December 2025, 19:01
Even contracts can get canceled. I think that in Adrien's case was some sort of "selling" the driver to richer team, while Sesks was there mostly because of help of Promoter and various other sponsors, so I don't think he is some sort tied up to them... But all that is just speculation.. And again, contracts can be canceled anytime. Even if M-Sport would hold him in any way, believe me, they couldn't match richer teams offer.
rallyfiend
2nd December 2025, 21:10
Hayden Paddon the third of the drivers to fill the third car?
Good for him if so. Just reward for loyalty to the brand - even if it certainly wasn't reciprocated from Germany.....
rallyfiend
2nd December 2025, 21:11
Do we know if M-Sport has any sort of contractual hold on Sesks? I had the impression that there are no ties, he rents a car when he can get the money together. Maybe there's a small "percentage of future earnings deal", but he hasn't driven for them that much so they shouldn't have too many hooks in him.
If he got an offer from Hyundai, which seems plausible, I imagine he would be able to take it. Do we know anything to the contrary?
One would imagine the Promoter would have some kind of deal to get their money back if he starts earning.
deephouse
3rd December 2025, 05:41
Hayden Paddon the third of the drivers to fill the third car?
Good for him if so. Just reward for loyalty to the brand - even if it certainly wasn't reciprocated from Germany.....
As much as many of us want to see him back, I don't see a point putting him in a Rally1 car for just one season, since the car will be discontinued anyway and Hyundai not even building WRC27 car. Better stick with Rally2 car, which he drives practicaly daily and achieve great sucess with it.. And then when the rules come, he should be their official driver.
Sulland
3rd December 2025, 13:10
Is Jon Armstrong ready for testing Rally1, or does he need more matching in rally2?
jcevc
3rd December 2025, 13:46
Is Jon Armstrong ready for testing Rally1, or does he need more matching in rally2?
maybe the best solution for him full WRC season (or at least 10 rallys) with fiesta rally2 to get knowledge of rallys?
WRCStan
3rd December 2025, 16:59
As much as many of us want to see him back, I don't see a point putting him in a Rally1 car for just one season, since the car will be discontinued anyway and Hyundai not even building WRC27 car. Better stick with Rally2 car, which he drives practicaly daily and achieve great sucess with it.. And then when the rules come, he should be their official driver.
Are you saying there's no point in Hyundai having a third car, because the same applies for everyone surely?
Apologies I thought this was the Hyundai thread.
Sulland
4th December 2025, 09:38
maybe the best solution for him full WRC season (or at least 10 rallys) with fiesta rally2 to get knowledge of rallys?
In addition to give him a rally or three in a Rally1 to check potential.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th December 2025, 09:50
I think Armstrong will do another season in ERC and continue to develop the Fiesta Rally2 in case M-Sport need to use it in 2027. Any drives in a Puma Rally1 are pointless.
Morte66
4th December 2025, 12:35
I think Armstrong should stay in ERC next year because he could win it, and it's M-Sports best chance of getting a title next year.
[And since I want Mabellini to win ERC next year, I hope they disagree with me.]
GigiGalliNo1
4th December 2025, 13:16
Like I said...
McErlean stays, Munster out... another Irishman will rotate the second seat with Armstrong (50/50 chance he'll be driving) for 2026 :)
TypeR
4th December 2025, 14:37
Like I said...
McErlean stays, Munster out... another Irishman will rotate the second seat with Armstrong (50/50 chance he'll be driving) for 2026 :)
Team Guiness :D
Creighton?
deephouse
4th December 2025, 15:57
So Sesks again stay without a seat?
Andre Oliveira
9th December 2025, 09:04
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/news/new-ford-fiesta
AndersX
9th December 2025, 10:54
It was about the time: car industry has changed rapidly, new brands or second trier brands want recognition and motorsport is the best tool for that. But, as there are no rumors, speculations or anything else coming out from M-Sport right now, we should be prepared for some surprises regarding 2026 team.
saco0o
9th December 2025, 14:35
isnt the current rumor being msport leaving ford for volvo or lynk & co ?
AndersX
9th December 2025, 14:47
isnt the current rumor being msport leaving ford for volvo or lynk & co ?
2027
deephouse
9th December 2025, 15:13
Well if that will come true, I think it can be a good thing, since they do very good in TCR, bringing proper funds to the british team and M-Sport doing the best they can with proper investment. It would be about time we get someone big in WRC and have a real fights over the events.
macebig
9th December 2025, 19:43
Geely has Cyan Racing at their disposal if they ever decide to enter rallying. And it's not that easy for M-Sport to leave Ford behind.
GigiGalliNo1
11th December 2025, 02:29
isnt the current rumor being msport leaving ford for volvo or lynk & co ?
None of it is true.
Andre Oliveira
11th December 2025, 05:25
Ford Racing made a 2025 Wrap. No reference to Puma.
deephouse
11th December 2025, 06:45
Because their season was miserable. If M-Sport would have results, believe me, they would brag about it.
AndersX
11th December 2025, 07:05
I think Malcolm is in the tight spot: they can not dropp Ford bcs of how everything is built around it (R4, R3,R2, Dakar, R1), but Ford does not care about WRC. To pivot away they would need some really committed manufacturer who would be serious about rallying for at least 10 years. If Msport would be successful with support class cars and sell them on the scale of Skoda, possibly they would have more alternatives.
Closing date for Monte Carlo entries is 19.12.
deephouse
11th December 2025, 08:41
They are not manufacturer, so they can run multiple brands or build cars for any who are willing to pay. Even Prodrive did run Subaru and alongside they build Proton WRC car, which sadly never hit the stages.
Maybe they could run 2 teams, one with Fords and one with whoever will come (for example only Lynk&Co)
Fast Eddie WRC
11th December 2025, 10:02
Ford are only interested in selling SUVs and pickups at home and EVs in Europe.
The next (Gen-E) Puma is EV-only, so there's no chance of a WRC27 Puma coming with an ICE run by M-Sport.
To stay in the top level of WRC, M-Sport need a new partner.
AndersX
11th December 2025, 11:41
Ford are only interested in selling SUVs and pickups at home and EVs in Europe.
The next (Gen-E) Puma is EV-only, so there's no chance of a WRC27 Puma coming with an ICE run by M-Sport.
To stay in the top level of WRC, M-Sport need a new partner.
This
Tom206wrc
11th December 2025, 16:15
Ford will sell Renault rebadged electric cars now :mark:
Andre Oliveira
11th December 2025, 17:27
Maybe we can see Rally1 with other brand in UK and M-Sport Poland build the Ford lower categories? Btw, which car to sell? Puma Rally2 and Rally3? Abandon Rally4/5/6?
Andre Oliveira
11th December 2025, 17:27
Ford will sell Renault rebadged electric cars now :mark:
No. It's a Ford with partnership with Renault like many many makes.
deephouse
11th December 2025, 17:48
I bet even if they would (again) have a suitable car for the championsip, they would not support M-Sport. I mean, how long will they make them free promotion before Wilson will say: I have enough. Let's go somewhere else. If we think about, M-Sport is like Paddon is to Hyundai. Sure they gave him chance now (again)... But what if he would not send that e-mail? Would they even considerate him being in that car? If Wilson is clever he would talk to anyone who will show some interest and have resources. And why not even to Hyundai. They are desperate for results and clearly can't figure out why. Maybe they need M-Sport to run things for them, so Cyril can focus fully on his round racing.
WRCStan
11th December 2025, 21:59
Maybe we can see Rally1 with other brand in UK and M-Sport Poland build the Ford lower categories? Btw, which car to sell? Puma Rally2 and Rally3? Abandon Rally4/5/6?
https://i.imgflip.com/aept5j.jpg
AndersX
12th December 2025, 06:25
I bet even if they would (again) have a suitable car for the championsip, they would not support M-Sport. I mean, how long will they make them free promotion before Wilson will say: I have enough. Let's go somewhere else. If we think about, M-Sport is like Paddon is to Hyundai. Sure they gave him chance now (again)... But what if he would not send that e-mail? Would they even considerate him being in that car? If Wilson is clever he would talk to anyone who will show some interest and have resources. And why not even to Hyundai. They are desperate for results and clearly can't figure out why. Maybe they need M-Sport to run things for them, so Cyril can focus fully on his round racing.
This is one fine idea, sell it to Malcolm; you are right - the system H has built is disfunctional, unable to provide sustainable results.
Fast Eddie WRC
12th December 2025, 10:45
Maybe... PRS would be the ideal choice, but based in NZ isnt practical.
https://paddonrallysport.co.nz/the-team/
Fast Eddie WRC
12th December 2025, 14:43
Rossel and Gryazin confirmed to spearhead Lancia’s WRC2 return in 2026... two names to rule out at M-Sport.
Dimitris
12th December 2025, 17:55
I dont think they were ever in consideration
rallyfiend
12th December 2025, 20:15
Rossel and Gryazin confirmed to spearhead Lancia’s WRC2 return in 2026... two names to rule out at M-Sport.
Why pay at M-Sport when you can get oaid at Lancia and be ready for 2027 / 2028?
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