Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2012

[noel157]

Henning Solberg car dosen't apper to be anywhere in the pics, he is in the entry-list however.

No dough.

[EightGear]

They should give the car to some real talent.

You obviously forgot Kuipers finished 5th in France last year.

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RVKAaPGHAjE

[Gregor-y]

Mikko nearly didn't pull that stunt off at the end. Lucky guy!

[SubaruNorway]

Henning Solberg car dosen't apper to be anywhere in the pics, he is in the entry-list however.

Just saw a pic of him in a sponsor meeting with some Norwegian drifters so he's not in Portugal.

[tfp]

Little green pig.

Thats the one ;)

No Henning for Portugal? This energy drink firm isn't very "go fast" about giving out sponsorship money are they?!

[Sardalense]

My photos from today (Tuesday):

SuperMotores | Rally, Fórmula 1, WRC (http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=274)

[MartijnS]

We're leaving today, skipping the shakedown unfortunately, but really looking forward to the rally!

[A FONDO]

On certain rounds of this year's WRC, the crews are permitted 10 tyres which can be used in exceptional conditions. This move was prompted by heavy rain during last year's Rally Australia, when the crews were forced to run on unsuitable hard-compound covers.
Going into this week's Rally Portugal, the drivers will have 40 'hard' Michelin Latitude Cross tyres, with 10 softer tyres available if the rain does arrive in the Algarve.

[EightGear]

From Kevin Abbring's Facebook page:
It unfortunately wasn't a regular and easy recce for me this time. I apparently picked up a virus on the way towards Portugal. After spending over 7 hours in the hospital on monday evening after recce day one everything is improving now. I'm in very good medical hands here. Nothing to worry about anymore and nothing I could do about it. Hopefully it's gone soon so we can focus 100% on the rally. Like I said, it starts to get better. Let's see what happens on the shakedown. (12:00 local time) Thanks

[HarriK]

Free practice 2 : Latvala 3'04"1 - Solberg 3'05"2 - Tanak 3'06"7 - Loeb 3'07"0 - Hirvonen 3'09"7 - Novikov 3'10"3 - Neuville 3'10"6

[r199]

is World rally radio a replay of last year, or are Becs and Collin back live for Portugal??? live qualifying now on World Rally Radio

[6789]

Loeb on new tyre rule - Sebastien Loeb pleased with revised World Rally Championship tyre rules - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98427)

Qualifying stage about to go live!

[6789]

is World rally radio a replay of last year, or are Becs and Collin back live for Portugal??? live qualifying now on World Rally Radio
Seems like they're back hey

[6789]

Loeb 3:04.2 secs
Mikko 3:04.2 - quicker with more accurate timing
Petter 3:03.655
Mads 3:05.9
Jari-Matti 3:01.884

[noel157]

is World rally radio a replay of last year, or are Becs and Collin back live for Portugal??? live qualifying now on World Rally Radio

We now have 2 broadcasts!!



Becs and Colin and Josie - World Rally Championship - Fanzone - Listen Live (http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/listen-live/)

Andrew Coley and Chris Rawes - iRally | The free independent Rally App for the iPhone, iPad and Android (http://www.irallylive.com/ir_radio.htm?000001)

[rp]

is World rally radio a replay of last year, or are Becs and Collin back live for Portugal??? live qualifying now on World Rally Radio

Seems like they're back hey

There are two rally radios!

[EightGear]

Nobre rolled.

[HarriK]

Nobre rolled.

[AndyRAC]

Nobre rolled - wow, what a surprise......

[tolis]

:1º Jari-Matti LATVALA 3:01.884
:2º Petter SOLBERG 3:03.655
:3º Mikko HIRVONEN 3:04.232
:4º Sébastien LOEB 3:04.249
:5º Ott TÄNAK 3:04.582
:6º Evgeny NOVIKOV 3:05.754
:7º Daniel SORDO 3:05.789
:8º Jari KETOMAA 3:05.921
:9º Mads ØSTBERG 3:05.968
:10º Thierry NEUVILLE 3:06.142
:11º Patrik SANDELL 3:07.215
:12º Armindo ARAÚJO 3:09.852

[euskalteam]

Full list:

Masrallye - Rallyes Tiempos en directo - Rallyes Tiempos on line (http://www.masrallye.com/portugal/12/online_pr.html)

[N.O.T]

This is what happens when you allow every baboon to the top of the sport...

If Nobre has a serious accident sometime and he injures someone or himself then everybody are going to act like crybaby little girls and try and find excuses and point fingers everywhere... lets hope that thing never happens but with the rate this clown with sunglasses visits the scenery its a matter of when rather than If...

but hey some people want to see more WRCs on the stages driven by nobodies...we cannot spoil then fun for them.

[garais22]

Can someone inform about fastest times in P3 drivers?

[dimviii]

only for NOT
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6228/7021918685_581ff90d1b_z.jpg

[dimviii]

again only for NOT
http://www.tout-le-rallye.be/forum/images/upload/olivier_huy/nobre_126.jpg

[A FONDO]

Did Attiyah have any problems?

[pantealex]

Did Attiyah have any problems?

He forget to turn in one crossing...
Story is in wrc.com

[A.F.F.]

Any news of the possible rain ???

[Doon]

This is what happens when you allow every baboon to the top of the sport...

If Nobre has a serious accident sometime and he injures someone or himself then everybody are going to act like crybaby little girls and try and find excuses and point fingers everywhere... lets hope that thing never happens but with the rate this clown with sunglasses visits the scenery its a matter of when rather than If...

but hey some people want to see more WRCs on the stages driven by nobodies...we cannot spoil then fun for them.

I agree with you on many of your comments that others consider to be OTT, but I really can't see your point here. Throughout the history of the WRC there have been others just like Nobre, and that in some way is the beauty of the sport, there is a mixture of talent and wealth levels. If you make the championship open only to those who are in the elite driving skill group who have the financial backing also, there would be about 6 drivers involved.

Yes I'd love to see 20 quaility drivers in an array of cars, but that's not going to happen and the reality is that plenty of people have lots of money, but not many with the ability to pass the 'N.O.T. WRC Entry Test', so to find someone with both is going to be extremely rare.

[N.O.T]

I agree with you on many of your comments that others consider to be OTT, but I really can't see your point here. Throughout the history of the WRC there have been others just like Nobre, and that in some way is the beauty of the sport, there is a mixture of talent and wealth levels. If you make the championship open only to those who are in the elite driving skill group who have the financial backing also, there would be about 6 drivers involved.

Yes I'd love to see 20 quaility drivers in an array of cars, but that's not going to happen and the reality is that plenty of people have lots of money, but not many with the ability to pass the 'N.O.T. WRC Entry Test', so to find someone with both is going to be extremely rare.

once again and for the millionth time....

I have no problem seeing Nobres in WRC rallies...i wish we had 150 entries full of nobres...but NOT IN A WRC car...

The top cars should be driven by top drivers ONLY...

If Nobre loves rallying he can drive s2000s grp N ects ects

[Luis Pacheco]

Great time for Armindo!

As a Portuguese proverb say: Saints of the house does not make miracle!

[Doon]

once again and for the millionth time....

I have no problem seeing Nobres in WRC rallies...i wish we had 150 entries full of nobres...but NOT IN A WRC car...

The top cars should be driven by top drivers ONLY...

If Nobre loves rallying he can drive s2000s grp N ects ects

Yes, I see your point but like I said, we'd have about 6 drivers plus even more boring Group N's if it was done your way. I'd much rather see a slow driver in a WRC than a Grp N (they are boring enough as they are!)

[Barreis]

Expecting that Latvala will go off 2/3 more times this season, in Portugal as earlier.

[dimviii]

Which position you think that Jari is going to choose?Seems that Citroen didn t push,waiting to follow Ford boys,trying to avoid a wrong position choose only for them?(Citroen)Playing safe i mean.

[wildboar]

Road position choices: Mikko and Seb will run P1 and P2, Solberg and Latvala P16 and P17!

[6789]

Road position choices: Mikko and Seb will run P1 and P2, Solberg and Latvala P16 and P17!
Wow - that could be the whole rally right there! Fingers crossed the dust isn't an issue

[dimviii]

Road position choices: Mikko and Seb will run P1 and P2, Solberg and Latvala P16 and P17!

oh somebody have the wrong choice...

[6789]

Solberg uncertain on watering stages - Solberg admits he has reservations about plans to reduce dust by watering stages - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98435)

[dimviii]

Solberg uncertain on watering stages - Solberg admits he has reservations about plans to reduce dust by watering stages - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98435)
he is right,you need huge amounts of water to keep dust on ground,and there will be a big difference in road between 1st and 10th or 17th pass.

[aykutbilir]

There is going to be dust issue for sure :) its Portugal guys :)
Last year Loeb gone all gravel races as first on road and he win again. So no problem here for him again. Hirvonen can have problmes. Lets wait and see :)

[tolis]

Hirvonen 1st on the road!
17 on the road - Latvala, 16 Solberg, 1 Hirvonen, 2 Loeb, Sandell 13.

[6789]

I have no idea what the weather is like over there but Ford want to hope that there's a decent breeze about. I think at the front is the safest position, you can'y loose minutes due to seeping but you can loose alot of time due to dust and even have an accident.

[rallyfiend]

Hirvonen 1st on the road!
17 on the road - Latvala, 16 Solberg, 1 Hirvonen, 2 Loeb, Sandell 13.

So, we see the first case of Team Orders within the new Citroen line up!

[Xsara Fan]

1.Hirvonen
2.Loeb
3.Tanak
........
15.Novikov
16.Solberg
17.Latvala

WOW!!!

[ZequeArgentina]

Why had Ogier not taken prt of the qualy stage?
He had in previous 2012 rallies.
If there has been a change in the rules (and comments in this forum), sorry as I may have missed them.

[EuroTroll]

Rally Portugal Running order:

1. Mikko Hirvonen
2. Sebastien Loeb
3. Ott Tanak
4. Dani Sordo
5. Jari Ketomaa
6. Thierry Neuville
7. Armindo Araujo
8. Martin Prokop
9. Nasser Al-Attiyah
10. Daniel Oliveira
11. Peter van Merksteijn
12. Dennis Kuipers
13. Patrik Sandell
14. Mads Ostberg
15. Evgeny Novikov
16. Petter Solberg
17. Jari-Matti Latvala

[dimviii]

1 – Hirvonen (DS3 WRC)
2 - Loeb (DS3 WRC)
3 - Tänak (Fiesta WRC)
4- Sordo (Mini WRC)
5 – Ketomaa (Fiesta WRC)
6 – Neuville (DS3 WRC)
7 – Araujo (Mini WRC)
8 – Prokop (Fiesta WRC)
9 – Al-Attiyah (DS3 WRC)
10 – Oliveira (Fiesta WRC)
11 – Van Merksteijn (DS3 WRC)
12 – Kuipers (Fiesta WRC)
13 -Sandell (Mini WRC)
14 – Ostberg (Fiesta WRC)
15 – Novikov (Fiesta WRC)
16 – P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC)
17 – Latvala (Fiesta WRC)

[EuroTroll]

Is Ketomaa still on DMacks?

[tolis]

Start List

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562631_344408385596456_178574282179868_813344_1283 597390_n.jpg

[bjalverud]

So, we see the first case of Team Orders within the new Citroen line up!

I don't see it that way... Citroen choose to start first because they think it's better to start first on the road, and they let Hirvonen (who did best time in the team) chose its position, the 1st..

[aykutbilir]

Why had Ogier not taken prt of the qualy stage?
He had in previous 2012 rallies.
If there has been a change in the rules (and comments in this forum), sorry as I may have missed them.
Ogier let go its FIA P1.
Thats why he is not qualify anymore starting from Portugal. Check 1-2 pages back you can see.

[rallyfiend]

I don't see it that way... Citroen choose to start first because they think it's better to start first on the road, and they let Hirvonen (who did best time in the team) chose its position, the 1st..

If it was his choice, Hirvonen would have gone second and let Loeb go first.

Definite team order.

[EuroTroll]

Hirvonen said: "We have taken the safest option. If we are unlucky and the road is cleaning badly then it's only three stages and 30 kilometres [the leaderboard is reversed for Friday, Saturday and Sunday with the slowest cars running at the front], so it would be tough on those stages, but not for the whole rally.

"But if there is dust or if there is rain then it's better to be first on the road."

Ford and Citroen choose opposite running order strategy for opening stages of Rally Portugal - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98438)

[A FONDO]

I think 4-5th place is the best choice. And Fords usually choose the wrong strategy.


btw, theres another pic of Nobre, for all his devoted fans here :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558354_10150612545725754_243641655753_9600220_1934 911566_n.jpg

[dimviii]

Latvala surprised by Citroen's decision to run first on the opening leg of Rally Portugal - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98439)

[ZequeArgentina]

Ogier let go its FIA P1.
Thats why he is not qualify anymore starting from Portugal. Check 1-2 pages back you can see.

Thanks, now I found it at page 11, one Mirek comment. Just missed it.


Now we need Blueford with his precise weather predictions to know if it will rain and Citroen did the right thing!!

Otherwise organizers will start to feel pressure on that "watering of night stages issue":
- Citroen: put only small quantity of water and some time before first one, so little sweeping, and dust to slow the Fords
- Ford: put alot of water to allow little dust when running 17th, and if possible let some water in the stages to delay Citroens

[dimviii]

i am very curious how the Portuguese organiser will manage to spread water in 3 different stages(10,2km,14,2km,11,1km) in a gravel which has months to rain.
They have to finish spread the water at least 1 hour before the first pass for safety reasons.This means that they have to start 2-3 hours before.
Also Ford boys with order 16-17th on road means that they will drive the stage about 2 hours after the last truck with water pass the stage.

[tolis]

Nice photo from Shakedown-Thierry Neuville!

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555765_10150706452723641_188289138640_9312551_1562 238139_n.jpg

[dimviii]

mooooaaarrrr Tolis!

[tolis]

One more-Latvala this time!

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/552244_344419572262004_178574282179868_813360_1943 838673_n.jpg

[Luis Pacheco]

I think 4-5th place is the best choice. And Fords usually choose the wrong strategy.


btw, theres another pic of Nobre, for all his devoted fans here :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558354_10150612545725754_243641655753_9600220_1934 911566_n.jpg

Maybe I´m wrong but I think this is the same place where Block roll last year and Tarabus in 2010!

[N.O.T]

i am very curious how the Portuguese organiser will manage to spread water in 3 different stages(10,2km,14,2km,11,1km) in a gravel which has months to rain.
They have to finish spread the water at least 1 hour before the first pass for safety reasons.This means that they have to start 2-3 hours before.
Also Ford boys with order 16-17th on road means that they will drive the stage about 2 hours after the last truck with water pass the stage.

they will use this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2024/3542802238_99b454ef8d.jpg

[uranium]

Portuguese organiser will manage to spread water in 3 different stages

They spread water?!?! OMG
Next rally evolution stage will be rally on F1 tracks :(

[Kielder]

i am very curious how the Portuguese organiser will manage to spread water in 3 different stages(10,2km,14,2km,11,1km) in a gravel which has months to rain.


They're going to spread water only in the first 3'5 km of Gomes Aires and in the whole Ourique. It`s half of the total itinerary of the day, more or less.

[dimviii]

They're going to spread water only in the first 3'5 km of Gomes Aires and in the whole Ourique. It`s half of the total itinerary of the day, more or less.

why only at these places?

[rallyfiend]

So, in order to bring back Jean Todt and Michele Mouton's desires for more 'challenge' they're creating artificial scenarios on the stages.

Ridiculous.

[tolis]

Abbring crashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKh3hZDM1CU

[dimviii]

Citroen team principal Yves Matton sure dust threats make running first best option - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98440)

[tolis]

Rally starts tomorrow and RTP2 will have live coverage of the event:
Programme: News (http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/content.aspx?menuid=43&eid=315&bl=1)
Link: http://www.tvdez.com/rtp2

[ZequeArgentina]

Thanks, now I found it at page 11, one Mirek comment. Just missed it.


Now we need Blueford with his precise weather predictions to know if it will rain and Citroen did the right thing!!

Otherwise organizers will start to feel pressure on that "watering of night stages issue":
- Citroen: put only small quantity of water and some time before first one, so little sweeping, and dust to slow the Fords
- Ford: put alot of water to allow little dust when running 17th, and if possible let some water in the stages to delay Citroens

Sorry, it is bluufor, not Blueford!! Please let us know our weather expectations, windguru says very little rain for thursday noight, and more on Friday. Time for that little rain is very important, please teach us your expert opinion on portugal rally weather

[tolis]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/534340_344434048927223_178574282179868_813403_1278 638402_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/523035_354298051278603_100000952334755_880529_5496 2958_n.jpg

[dimviii]

amazing photo!
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6102/7023847257_9a594e31e2_c.jpg

[noel157]

Nobre withdrawn. Damage too bad.

[dimviii]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7110/6877746518_a788efb4d7_b.jpghttp://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/7023837095_5b5b542931_b.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7112/6877734542_63bc91e224_c.jpg

[tolis]

Video, shakedown: Rally de Portugal 2012 Practice(Shakedown) & Qualifying - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlER0iLPJ84)

[rallye-sport]

Shakedown photos : Photos Rallye du Portugal 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-portugal-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/portugal-2012/portugal2-090.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/portugal-2012/portugal2-179.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/portugal-2012/portugal2-119.jpg

[dimviii]

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6217/7023852979_b0cdae2ea3_b.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7214/6877748870_43d22d475c_b.jpg

[tolis]

Mikko from Mexico to Portugal! :D
Mexico to Portugal - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9pgKY4r3g)

[dimviii]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6877759490_0799616263_b.jpg

[dimviii]

what happened to Petters front wing?
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6038/7023849545_40665739a9_b.jpg

[dimviii]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/6877736294_23bdee1694_b.jpg

[dimviii]

Abbring crashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKh3hZDM1CU


http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/548284679.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1332946671&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=dKosFlwfW1d8TV9AD1YsQR6RKx-tPBbMjWL03GudQZaTIm7FXy7VaDnvQIqM26FB3B8SZbehY5oiE bD4Dd31O2yQP98-g5WP26hquKA3D9e8ONDrEVP1VJ1DRznIWZeY50WWUDW3yECXNq pJUKAPW15WyrhytZ5W2JYzfGe10qY_

[Francis44]

Tomorrow it will be interesting. I think Ford's decision was a bit risky but it might pay off.

It hasn't rained for months and I dont think one day of rain will be enough to damp all the roads. The ground will take all the water quickly and I believe Latvala and Solberg might have an advantage with the road much cleaner. Otsberg and Novikov are not tourists so I think 3 minutes is enough if there is a little breeze, and it has been windy in the last couple of days.

[Jafry]

http://rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/993/993_ostberg_-_andersson_ford_fiesta_wrc_a2fa61808e.jpg

http://rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/993/993_a_aaa7b0e2c2.jpg

http://rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/993/993_a_855b3dde0e.jpg

http://rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/993/993_a_a5ad16c299.jpg

More photos from shake HERE (http://rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=993&fseason=2012)

[Martin Luijk]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/548284679.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1332946671&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=dKosFlwfW1d8TV9AD1YsQR6RKx-tPBbMjWL03GudQZaTIm7FXy7VaDnvQIqM26FB3B8SZbehY5oiE bD4Dd31O2yQP98-g5WP26hquKA3D9e8ONDrEVP1VJ1DRznIWZeY50WWUDW3yECXNq pJUKAPW15WyrhytZ5W2JYzfGe10qY_

His crash might have something to do with his illness.

Kevin Abbring on Facebook:

It unfortunately wasn't a regular and easy recce for me this time. I apparently picked up a virus on the way towards Portugal. After spending over 7 hours in the hospital on monday evening after recce day one everything is improving now. I'm in very good medical hands here. Nothing to worry about anymore and nothing I could do about it. Hopefully it's gone soon so we can focus 100% on the rally. Like I said, it starts to get better. Let's see what happens on the shakedown. (12:00 local time) Thanks

[mousti]

If not reported yet, but good news for our good friend here named NOT. Nobre won't start tomorrow it seems..

[Kielder]

why only at these places?

The last one is the most close stage and the start of the first one is very close too. Santa Clara and the last part of Gomes Aires are more open, so there's less danger of troubles because of the dust in the air.

[mousti]

Is that the Polo WRC who's hiding in Portugal?? Can't really tell..

Will waiting for Abbring to arrive, I spotted this hiding aro... on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/92gk7l)

[tolis]

49 crews start tomorrow: http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/Handlers/fileHandler.ashx?path=%2fResourcesUser%2fDocumento s%2fQuadro_oficial_de_afixacao%2fStart_list_Sectio n_2.pdf&menuid=60

No Hen.Solberg, Nobre, Abbring, Aasen, Kruuda, Donnelly, Lemes, Haigh-Smith.

[Fri]

pics from today:
rallysport.hu - Rally de Portugal 2012 - teszt/kvalifikáció (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/04_portugal/02_szerda/index.htm)

[mousti]

Bad news indeed for Abbring, rollcage seems to be damaged too..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=677057&l=80dc29ff3a&id=181112608634555

[rallyfiend]

49 crews start tomorrow: http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/Handlers/fileHandler.ashx?path=%2fResourcesUser%2fDocumento s%2fQuadro_oficial_de_afixacao%2fStart_list_Sectio n_2.pdf&menuid=60

No Hen.Solberg, Nobre, Abbring, Aasen, Kruuda, Donnelly, Lemes, Haigh-Smith.

What heppened to those Academy kids? The cheque to M-Sport got lost in the mail?

[tolis]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/522962_344498382254123_178574282179868_813945_1827 143024_n.jpg

[Rallyper]

Seems weather is going to play Ford in hands:

According to yr.no and Faro (I know Faro is not where stages is but still...)

Thursday windy, no rain
Friday less windy and rain
Saturday rain.

[Salist]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562631_344408385596456_178574282179868_813344_1283 597390_n.jpg

[bluuford]

Sorry, it is bluufor, not Blueford!! Please let us know our weather expectations, windguru says very little rain for thursday noight, and more on Friday. Time for that little rain is very important, please teach us your expert opinion on portugal rally weather

Weather prediction is tricky. Lets say that there is slight possibility of light rain tomorrow evening and more during the night. So, Citroen did some risk limitation decision.
If the rain arrives, position nr 1 and 2 is good. If it does not arrive and dust halters lower starters, then position 1 and 2 are ok. If it does not rain and there is as much wind as forecasted, they are going to loose some time. So, that helps them to start earlier tomorrow. There might be pretty much rain overnight, some more during the Friday and that might make the roads very bad for the later runners... for those who were winners on Thursday.

So, I think that their strategy is not to win the rally on Thursday but to win it by Sunday.
Fords decision is another view. There will be plenty of wind tomorrow, so I assume the dust is no problem. They hope that watering the stages makes the road slippery for the first drivers and by the time they reach there, the road is clean and much more dry:-) But the happiness might be short-lived.

[Francis44]

Hang on about the rain. I know every other forecaster is saying it will rain but that might not be the case. If it rains, it wont be strong rain. And this applys tomorrow and for other days aswell.

[COD]

i am very curious how the Portuguese organiser will manage to spread water in 3 different stages(10,2km,14,2km,11,1km) in a gravel which has months to rain.
They have to finish spread the water at least 1 hour before the first pass for safety reasons.This means that they have to start 2-3 hours before.
Also Ford boys with order 16-17th on road means that they will drive the stage about 2 hours after the last truck with water pass the stage.

If they are smart, they will use salt

[ZequeArgentina]

Weather prediction is tricky. Lets say that there is slight possibility of light rain tomorrow evening and more during the night. So, Citroen did some risk limitation decision.
If the rain arrives, position nr 1 and 2 is good. If it does not arrive and dust halters lower starters, then position 1 and 2 are ok. If it does not rain and there is as much wind as forecasted, they are going to loose some time. So, that helps them to start earlier tomorrow. There might be pretty much rain overnight, some more during the Friday and that might make the roads very bad for the later runners... for those who were winners on Thursday.

So, I think that their strategy is not to win the rally on Thursday but to win it by Sunday.
Fords decision is another view. There will be plenty of wind tomorrow, so I assume the dust is no problem. They hope that watering the stages makes the road slippery for the first drivers and by the time they reach there, the road is clean and much more dry:-) But the happiness might be short-lived.

Thanks!! Good info.

[A FONDO]

Bad luck is chasing me again. During the Second time on the shakedown we hit a hidden rock in a 90 degrees corner. The following 400m everything was fine though we lost the wheel in a few corners after that and we were thrown to the other side of the track and went off the road. The team is able to fix the car but due to safety reasons the FIA can't let us start tomorrow.

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and another pic with our "jolly good fella":

http://www.bgnrc.info/images/stories//WRCpersons/2012-POR-Matu-Wilson-MH-001.jpg (http://www.bgnrc.info/images/stories//WRCpersons/2012-POR-Matu-Wilson-MH-001.jpg)

[MikeD]

So, this is gonna be a Nobre-free rally. Thank god! He is really getting on my nerves....

[N.O.T]

So, this is gonna be a Nobre-free rally. Thank god! He is really getting on my nerves....

yes but now we have 1 WRC less on the stages to watch.... the rally lost its interest for me....

[dimviii]

Rally de Portugal 2012 Practice & Qualifying - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0-lt_y878&feature=player_embedded)

Rally de Portugal 2012 Shakedown - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KcEoyAbcc4&feature=player_embedded)

Citroën WRC 2012 - Rallye de Portugal - Wednesday - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EzY7P5iJCA&feature=player_embedded)

[dimviii]

yes but now we have 1 WRC less on the stages to watch.... the rally lost its interest for me....

http://www.wrc.com/features/660/Nobre120309.jpg

[N.O.T]

my god...

[dimviii]

my god...

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/360/PAPHOTO4_375257.jpg

[Barreis]

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and another pic with our "jolly good fella":

http://www.bgnrc.info/images/stories//WRCpersons/2012-POR-Matu-Wilson-MH-001.jpg (http://www.bgnrc.info/images/stories//WRCpersons/2012-POR-Matu-Wilson-MH-001.jpg)

There's one real driver on this picture: Marko Martin.

[Sardalense]

My photos from today:

SuperMotores | Rally, Fórmula 1, WRC (http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=276)

[Andre Oliveira]

Photos P.A. (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150640548727987.396421.225153532986&type=1)

And Shakedown (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150642107557987.396627.225153532986&type=1)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562639_10150642109447987_225153532986_9370464_8156 91167_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150640548727987.396421.225153532986&type=1

[rbatista82]

As always, some photos from Rally de Portugal.
First Photo Gallery: SuperMotores | Rally, Fórmula 1, WRC (http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=274)

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/popup.asp?pasta=/images/galeria/&foto=13.jpg&descricao=Rali%20de%20Portugal
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/popup.asp?pasta=/images/galeria/&foto=28.jpg&descricao=Rali%20de%20Portugal

[PLuto]

Also some photos here - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13563)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/f6e3dc4c480a8813626bd8d896326af1.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/4c8bf5f09a4cb780e4917bbddd9e0564.jpg

[bluuford]

Hang on about the rain. I know every other forecaster is saying it will rain but that might not be the case. If it rains, it wont be strong rain. And this applys tomorrow and for other days aswell.
Are you local? Local knowledge is very often very valuable, but unfortunately not always.
This time you might prove wrong. There is high possibility that tomorrow evening will be characterised by some very light isolated rainshowers.
Then there will be very heavy rain overnight and until Friday afernoon. The weather is little bit better in the afternoon and Saturday morning. It gets worse on Saturday evening again and improves by Sunday. Also the temperature drops to only .+10..+15 degrees for all the rainy days.

I remember the event 2001 when some cars got stuck on the stages. Rapid heavy rain after drought does not go quickly into the ground. It creates some small streams, mud holes etc.

So, who manages their 10 soft tires the best? .. is the winner :-)

[Francis44]

Are you local? Local knowledge is very often very valuable, but unfortunately not always.
This time you might prove wrong. There is high possibility that tomorrow evening will be characterised by some very light isolated rainshowers.
Then there will be very heavy rain overnight and until Friday afernoon. The weather is little bit better in the afternoon and Saturday morning. It gets worse on Saturday evening again and improves by Sunday. Also the temperature drops to only .+10..+15 degrees for all the rainy days.

I remember the event 2001 when some cars got stuck on the stages. Rapid heavy rain after drought does not go quickly into the ground. It creates some small streams, mud holes etc.

So, who manages their 10 soft tires the best? .. is the winner :-)

I value your information ofcourse, and I thank you for sharing it.

But I just dont believe it will rain that much, I just dont get that feeling from the weather. The weather changes very quickly here and for the last months forecasters have been wrong and wrong. That's perhaps why I dont "buy" there predictions as easily as I did before.

However I get the feeling that you are a bit of an expert in this area so I will believe you :D , I will take some jackets with me. However I am not 100% sure about heavy rain, not in the Algarve region I must say. It is very unlikely that we see a scenario like in 2001, very different carachter between the north and south.

[A FONDO]

Äî ñòàðòà ðàëëè. Êâàëèôèêàöèÿ - Ðàëëè Ïîðòóãàëèè - WRC - Ñåçîí 2012 - Ðàëëè â ìèðå - Ôîòî - Âñ¸ î ðàëëè íà ðóññêîì (http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?p=1&idgroup=27410)

[Malozerow]

Hey
Here is some pictures of the Rally, during the qualifying stage and at Estadio Algarve :)
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/7023837095_3336bc6fc6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023837095/)
IMG_4102.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023837095/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/6877736294_c936713e9b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/6877736294/)
IMG_4115.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/6877736294/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6215/6877734892_cfb134abd3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/6877734892/)
IMG_4090.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/6877734892/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/7023900053_551d68e76e_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023900053/)
IMG_4250.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023900053/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr

[ZequeArgentina]

I value your information ofcourse, and I thank you for sharing it.

But I just dont believe it will rain that much, I just dont get that feeling from the weather. The weather changes very quickly here and for the last months forecasters have been wrong and wrong. That's perhaps why I dont "buy" there predictions as easily as I did before.

However I get the feeling that you are a bit of an expert in this area so I will believe you :D , I will take some jackets with me. However I am not 100% sure about heavy rain, not in the Algarve region I must say. It is very unlikely that we see a scenario like in 2001, very different carachter between the north and south.

Yes, bluuford knows what he is talking about, that is why I requested his opinion on the weather, lets see tomorrow and friday how the ford vs citroen startegy works out.

[Malozerow]

Tried to send some pictures here... dont know what i did wrong... trying with only a link : Collection: Rallye du Portugal 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/collections/72157629680463561/)

and one pic...
Ott Tanak and some fans ;)
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/7023837095_3336bc6fc6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023837095/)
IMG_4102.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7023837095/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr

[Rallyper]

It´s very likely to be rainy days in southern Portugal this weekend according to yr.no.

[MartijnS]

Does anybody know if there's a magazine or program for sale with info about the stages?

[Francis44]

Does anybody know if there's a magazine or program for sale with info about the stages?

Autosport has a guide for sale, in portuguese however. BP gas stations were offering one aswell but I dont know if it has english or just portuguese.

[MartijnS]

Ok thanks! Well go and look for it :)

[katikisphotography]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/557223_10150661631238558_784983557_9608201_1964422 408_n.jpg

[Sardalense]

The organisers published an official program. I don´t know the price and is likely to be in english.

[HarriK]

Ketomaa uses Michelin in this race.

Google Kääntäjä (http://translate.google.fi/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2Fuut iset.shtml%2F2012%2F03%2F1520604%2Fketomaa-vaihtaa-michelin-renkaisiin)

[rallyfiend]

Ketomaa uses Michelin in this race.

Google Kääntäjä (http://translate.google.fi/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2Fuut iset.shtml%2F2012%2F03%2F1520604%2Fketomaa-vaihtaa-michelin-renkaisiin)

How embarrassing for DMACK

[N.O.T]

How embarrassing for DMACK

but good decision for Ketomaa, now we can see his true speed and if there is a difference.

[Hartusvuori]

How embarrassing for DMACK

Ketomaa says it's part of the DMACK program to run a rally with other brand to get comparison. Google Translation gives nothing but pig latin here.

[rallyfiend]

Ketomaa says it's part of the DMACK program to run a rally with other brand to get comparison. Google Translation gives nothing but pig latin here.

Well, he'd hardly bad mouth his sponsor if they'd found out there is a problem with the tyres. What are they going to compare it to? Trivino in Mexico?!?

[HarriK]

Does nobody knows if Ketomaa drove qualification with Dmack's`? Just wondering that in live interview he said that two corners he drove wide... I can't see from photos if he had Dmacks...

[Luis Pacheco]

I remember the event 2001 when some cars got stuck on the stages. Rapid heavy rain after drought does not go quickly into the ground. It creates some small streams, mud holes etc.


In 2001 the race was far away from Algarve. The kind of gravel is very different from the old stages in the north of Portugal. But in Algarve region the rain falls hard sometimes.

[vkangas]

This is going to be very important rally for Ketomaa's future. If I'm reading right between the lines he is most likely to use Dmack's later this season. Because of that I do not really believe he is able to amaze us later.

It's hard but top 3...4 is what he should do in Portugal.

[vkangas]

Does nobody knows if Ketomaa drove qualification with Dmack's`? Just wondering that in live interview he said that two corners he drove wide... I can't see from photos if he had Dmacks...
Can't see any reason using different tires than in the rally.

[rallyfiend]

Can't see any reason using different tires than in the rally.

You are not allowed to swap brand of tyre during an event, and as qualification is part of the itinerary, he will have had to be wearing Michelin shoes.

[Mise]

The old Rally Radio is back with Becks and Colin.

[Viking]

SSS is live Academy drivers are through

[Luis Pacheco]

Cocas Tv - Rtp 2 (http://www.cocas.tv/t/rtp2-2.html)

Click "RTP 2"

[cosmin_sb]

we can see live the ss on Cocas Tv - Rtp 2 (http://cocas.tv/t/rtp2-2.html)

[Salist]

Many thanks Luis!

[darkstar]

thanks for the link! that jump is nice ;)

[N.O.T]

Nobody pushes on the sss...preserving tyres.

[Sardalense]

It's raining in Algarve!!

[mousti]

Interesting! But it has time to dry though if it's a short rain shower..

[bluuford]

It's raining in Algarve!!

This is the first rain front. By the time of the stages (very narrowly), next, second and long lasting front should move in. But still with light rain showers. But wait until tomorrow...rain+rain+rain.... everybody wants to be first on the road for tomorrow? Is there anyone brave enough to loose time to be among first starters tomorrow?

[janvanvurpa]

Is that it for today? no mas?

[Negaiss]

Here you can see rain radar real time Instituto de Meteorologia, IP Portugal (http://www.meteo.pt/pt/otempo/radar/#)

Despite being more west than UK, in this time of the year time in portugal is UTC +1 hour. So if radar shows 16.30 that means 17.30 in Portugal.

[Hartusvuori]

Is that it for today? no mas?

Three more stages coming, ran in the dark.

[janvanvurpa]

Three more stages coming, ran in the dark.


IN THE DARK!!!????? Impossible! They will all die! It can't be done.. Who ever heard of cars driving in the woods at night?

[EuroTroll]

Two hours to go, right? Time for a little power nap. :s nore:

[dimviii]

cant wait..

[Sardalense]

Now its raining a lot.

[Luis Pacheco]

IN THE DARK!!!????? Impossible! They will all die! It can't be done.. Who ever heard of cars driving in the woods at night?

:) :) :)

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

IN THE DARK!!!????? Impossible! They will all die! It can't be done.. Who ever heard of cars driving in the woods at night?

Yes. We will, we will do it! But here in cold and DARK north we allso drive usually without lights!

[Coach 2]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/522962_344498382254123_178574282179868_813945_1827 143024_n.jpg

Extremely good grip and good brakes on the Citroen, which is why Ford can not win. Now I understand, okay.

[dimviii]

Now its raining a lot.

raining for all 3 stages?

[ZequeArgentina]

Now its raining a lot.

Just as bluuford predicted, that is why I wanted his opinion on Portugal weather.
As it generally si the case, Citroen "meteo" has more accurate information than Ford´s

[N.O.T]

total respect to bluuford !!!

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

total respect to bluuford !!!

Pro is PRO!

[Fide]

Sorry fro my ignorance, but am confused ... to whom it benefits if soil is wet ? to the ones starts 1st or the ones starting last ? and Why ?

[Coach 2]

Sorry fro my ignorance, but am confused ... to whom it benefits if soil is wet ? to the ones starts 1st or the ones starting last ? and Why ?

Is maybe not for the benefit of those who start first, but there is less disadvantage of starting first.

[N.O.T]

Sorry fro my ignorance, but am confused ... to whom it benefits if soil is wet ? to the ones starts 1st or the ones starting last ? and Why ?

the ones starting first one the road...the main reasons are the big ruts that are created from the cars digging on the soft soil...but also due to the tyre structure and the cuts on corners more mud goes on the road for the late runners...

we will see... in 1:30 hours approximately

[dimviii]

ss3
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/536816_267362826685027_102597653161546_612830_1096 753390_n.jpg

[vkangas]

Citroen "meteo" has more accurate information than Ford´s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5uVexJ7U0
Sorry moderators...I was not able to resist... :)

[pettersolberg29]

Colin Clark saying the Citroens will start SS2 in half-light whereas the Fords will be in total darkness. Could be a massive advantage there. On the flipside apparently there's very little rain and lots of wind on SS3 and SS4 which should make sweeping effect help the Fords.

[amilk]

If rain mixing with dust/powder on the road I think to be first on the road a disadvantage because this will be cleaned later on - The rain good for Ford IMO

[dimviii]

Colin Clark saying the Citroens will start SS2 in half-light whereas the Fords will be in total darkness. Could be a massive advantage there.
advantage for who?

[dimviii]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/528151_336009726448970_100001198358402_914457_2076 582644_n.jpgfinish ss2
http://p.twimg.com/ApLDaSvCIAA-QeH.jpg

[EuroTroll]

advantage for who?

Unless they're vampires, light is better than darkness. :p :

[Psycho!]

And something else...Is everybody on hard compound??The softs could prove better in such conditions...

[N.O.T]

8 minutes and all questions should be answered...

[dimviii]

Unless they're vampires, light is better than darkness. :p :

semilight is very different from light.In that case semilight is NOT advantage,extra lights dont work good at semilights.

[pettersolberg29]

semilight is very different from light.In that case semilight is NOT advantage,extra lights dont work good at semilights.

Colin was suggesting it would give Citroen an advantage but you may have a good point there.

[dimviii]

are we ready?
http://p.twimg.com/ApLPJUBCMAAal4A.jpg

[Mirek]

Extremely good grip and good brakes on the Citroen, which is why Ford can not win. Now I understand, okay.

Since when two wheels in the air are more effective than all four on the ground? :) Sorry, but this photo says nothing about the car. Just by simple laws of physics two wheels can never have same grip as four. It is simply impossible. The goal is to keep all four on the ground...

[KKS]

Since when two wheels in the air are more effective than all four on the ground? :) Sorry, but this photo says nothing about the car. Just by simple laws of physics two wheels can never have same grip as four. It is simply impossible. The goal is to keep all four on the ground...
Mirek it was a joke :) .
Citreon can make same as on this pic :D

http://statics.photodom.com/photos/2010/01/27/1721092.jpg

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen already losing a lot....seems that the Fords ave the advantage...

[dimviii]

20:26 Hirvonen quote at the end of Stage 2
Mikko Hirvonen completes Stage 2 with a time of 6min 47sec. Hirvonen said: "I didn't have any rhythm, very bad driving from myself."

[N.O.T]

No dust ...

[dimviii]

Sebastien Loeb completes Stage 2, 2.9sec quicker than team-mate Mikko Hirvonen. "I just try to follow the road. I don't see anything of the road," said Loeb


did he said at rally radio why he couldnt see the road? not dark enough?

[Miika]

Pffff Sordo.

[N.O.T]

Sordo +1 min...

[Allyc85]

:( Sordo in trouble.

[pettersolberg29]

Sordo lost his lights apparently

[MikeD]

Bad start for Sordo :(

[dimviii]

Sordo had and a broken exaust manifold at shakedown.

[N.O.T]

seems that splits froze...

[dimviii]

split times also
2011 WRC - Live Results (http://therallyworld.com/2012/por/split.html)

[dimviii]

pitty more than 2 minutes for Dani

[dimviii]

Reports from the stages that Armindo Araujo has stopped

[mousti]

Araujo already in troubles too...

[N.O.T]

no lights for sordo....someone at service is in trouble....

[Barreis]

split times also
2011 WRC - Live Results (http://therallyworld.com/2012/por/split.html)

Nice page.

[Mirek]

Sordo was driving blind without lights.

[N.O.T]

so he will drive 3 stages only with car lights ??? ....hmmmmm

[dimviii]

can Dani can fix his lights? or he will continue at 2 more stages at dark?

[A FONDO]

split times also
2011 WRC - Live Results (http://therallyworld.com/2012/por/split.html)
this site is great thanks for sharing!!!!

[pettersolberg29]

so he will drive 3 stages only with car lights ??? ....hmmmmm

And only 1 car light!

[janvanvurpa]

Sordo lost his lights apparently


he should have studied how those Finns we were talking about earlier drive at night with no lights.
how Zen....Zato-ichi meets Latvala

[mousti]

Prokop stoppen now too :o

[dimviii]

While at live text we have comments from Ketooma,at splits we dont see him.Totaly useless sickdogs.

[N.O.T]

Disappointing time by ketomaa....very disappointing.

[dimviii]

this site is great thanks for sharing!!!!

seems to work better from official site.

[Mirek]

Prokop stoppen now too :o

One little ten km long stage in the dark and so many things happen in world championship. Strange...

EDIT: Engine problem for Prokop.

[Jeppe]

One little ten km long stage in the dark and so many things happen in world championship. Strange...

You stole my thoughts..

[dimviii]

Prokop
A bad note ... We got stuck in a ditch at the beginning of the ES ..."

[Miika]

..and the Ford factory team circus hasn´t even started yet. With Novikov right in front of them.

[dimviii]

Prokop
A bad note ... We got stuck in a ditch at the beginning of the ES ..."

edit sorry this comments is for Araujo

[cosmin_sb]

Hirvonen is already on the SS3

[Jeppe]

I fear that FFC (Ford Factory Circus) will be disaster this evening..

EDIT: Lightness and road position are major things in (gravel) rallies

[kubiczech]

Could not we have one television instead of two radios ......... please

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb stopped!

[hari]

Loeb stopped

[MikeD]

Loeb has stopped

[xavier]

There is not much time in between SS2 and SS3 for Dani to attempt to fix his lights...

[EuroTroll]

Loeb stopped? :eek:

[mousti]

Loeb stopped :o

[mousti]

Old school dark rally stages makes a chaos :D

[N.O.T]

seems that the late runners do not have any advantage on ss2...

[blissard]

How will Ford react to this? JM and Petter haven't started SS2 yet..

[MikeD]

Is there Super Rally in this rally?

[Allyc85]

Loebs splits were slow in Mexico, we shall see!

edit: Tanak through before Loeb!

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. Stopped in the stage reported.

no split mistake....according to rally.cz

[mousti]

Tanak in no Loeb!

[Adler]

<3 go petter <3

[N.O.T]

Great start by Solberg....

[dimviii]

Ostberg same time as Mikko at ss2!

[KKS]

Loeb stopped? :eek:

Where u get this info? In 2011 year WRR was very quick on this situation.... now thay reported after 10 min

[EuroTroll]

Where u get this info? In 2011 year WRR was very quick on this situation.... now thay reported after 10 min

I got it from the wrc.com radio.

[dimviii]

off road for Loeb

[jonkka]

Loeb has gone off road...

[pettersolberg29]

Petter very fast

[N.O.T]

Latvala is on safe mode now....

[MikeD]

Sordo has not started SS3.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroen will want Mikko to take points off Ford now...

[N.O.T]

Lets see if Loeb can continue....he could still score points if he continues.

[RAS007]

Why didn't Dani have lights? These are night stages......am I missing something?

[N.O.T]

Sordo has not started SS3.

No lights...no party.

[focus206]

wow so many things happened in so few kms! :eek:

[RAS007]

Lets see if Loeb can continue....he could still score points if he continues.

Let's hope N.O.T.

[EuroTroll]

Wow, what's up with Ketomaa? :s Really slow..

[Iskald]

Ostberg same time as Mikko at ss2!

He is in a hurry to get home to cook some nice meals for Veronica!

[N.O.T]

Why didn't Dani have lights? These are night stages......am I missing something?

he lost them after 100 meters of ss2

[Barreis]

He is in a hurry to get home to cook some nice meals for Veronica!

Any picture of Veronica? :D

[N.O.T]

Great time by solberg !!

[Adler]

wow, petter really fast, almost 1 sec/km faster than hirvonnen!!!

[dimviii]

He is in a hurry to get home to cook some nice meals for Veronica!

photo or do NOT mention.

[N.O.T]

Crazy last split by Latvala....

[RAS007]

he lost them after 100 meters of ss2

Did they come off, or stop working......?

[Jeppe]

Latvala is on safe mode now....

JM -4.5 sec from Loeb. Definitely NOT safe mode ;)

[Allyc85]

Latvala is on safe mode now....

Is there such a thing?!