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Sulland
15th November 2011, 17:37
What do we know of the 2012 regulations for IRC?

For starters:
- Tech regs
- Classes
- Calendar
- Other issues

Mirek
16th November 2011, 08:37
I think that the most interesting change is that the 1.6T will be most likely allowed.

RICARDO75
16th November 2011, 13:23
I think that the most interesting change is that the 1.6T will be most likely allowed.

Yes, and the 1.6T are now in class 2, insted of class 1
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/3D74ED596EE4CC13C12579420063D494/$FILE/2012%20Regional%20Rallies%20Sporting%20Regs%20+%20 Appx_08.11.2011.pdf

mousti
16th November 2011, 13:38
I think that the most interesting change is that the 1.6T will be most likely allowed.
But will Mini register for IRC so they can get points?

noel157
19th November 2011, 12:14
Would imagine so. It would make sense for DR and potential customers.

RS
19th November 2011, 13:53
Would imagine so. It would make sense for DR and potential customers.

Except DR is IRC-phobic. Hopefully he wouldn't let silly vendettas come in the way of a common sense business decision though.

noel157
19th November 2011, 21:10
Except DR is IRC-phobic. Hopefully he wouldn't let silly vendettas come in the way of a common sense business decision though.

He certainly isn't cash-phobic so that should overcome any old issues he has.

Rally Power
20th November 2011, 02:21
Will future R3T 4wd cars be as fast as S2000 1.6T cars?

If so there's no harm allowing S2000 1.6T in 2012 IRC, otherwise how can someone except the apperence of R3T4wd cars for 2013...

liposh
20th November 2011, 18:14
I´ve heard that new R3T 4wd or R4T (we will see the name of this division, but we all know what I am talking about) should be under 150 000 Eur. Present s2000 costs 270 000 Eur. So if the engine will be good enough (and with big restrictor) the chassis won´t be so good.

Sulland
21st November 2011, 08:39
I hope that IRC keep S2000 NA as their top class also for 2012. It has been a huge success, and have created the closest rallying we have seen i years.

Switch class to the new 4wd class coming for the the 2013 season.
Leave the WRCar and RRC/SP cars for WRC. Let them try and get a healthy championship together, with those hugely expensive cars.

Do not break something that works !

OldF
21st November 2011, 22:33
Will we see any new homologated S2000 1.6T in the future? In a way it would be interesting to see a S2000 1.6T driver taking a batch with the WRC drivers with a class 1 car.

Class 1: S2000-Rally: 1.6 T engine with a 33mm restrictor

2012 WRC sporting regulations (http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/2FEB095B0D356BD7C125794B0053527C/$FILE/2012%20WRC%20Sporting%20Regulations%20+%20Appendic es.pdf)

GP Week (http://mag.gpweek.com/) page 20

“There is no apparent policy at the moment at the FIA about a satisfactory future for the 1.6 litre (1.6T) S2000.”

mousti
23rd November 2011, 16:08
With reading Nasser plans it seems the DS3 will be..

Mirek
23rd November 2011, 18:24
It's slightly different situation. DS3 S2000 is actually homologated since 1st January. Although it never run any event it must have existed for homologation of WRC package (at least 10 sets of each parts I think).

Sulland
24th November 2011, 10:00
Will we see any new homologated S2000 1.6T in the future? In a way it would be interesting to see a S2000 1.6T driver taking a batch with the WRC drivers with a class 1 car.

Class 1: S2000-Rally: 1.6 T engine with a 33mm restrictor

2012 WRC sporting regulations (http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/2FEB095B0D356BD7C125794B0053527C/$FILE/2012%20WRC%20Sporting%20Regulations%20+%20Appendic es.pdf)

GP Week (http://mag.gpweek.com/) page 20

“There is no apparent policy at the moment at the FIA about a satisfactory future for the 1.6 litre (1.6T) S2000.”

Hopefully not. The price on these are too close to full WRC. If they can make the new R4T (?) class to become a good class both from a money and a driver perspective - this should become the Regional/National top class in my opinion.