Iran / USA crisis

[Knock-on]

If this is true, it's very worrying :(

BBC News - Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15266992)

Some Americans claim that if this had happened, it would be an at of War and it's difficult to argue otherwise IF this was sponsored by the State of Iran.

Very concerning.

[BleAivano]

knock on, i wouldn't listen to US Sources in this case.
They're hardly known for telling the truth are they?

Remeber Iraq when Collin Powell told the world (lied) about the weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq, despite that everyone knew that it did not exist
such weapons in Iraq.

in the USA the politicians have imposed allot of security measures to prevent terrorism,
allot of this measures are quite intrusive to peoples privacy and freedom.

As such there has be constant "threats" to warrant these measures, you know as a motivation to why they have to keep it and even introduce more measures.

"the war against terrorism" has cost the US tax payers many thousands in fatalities and allot of money but the weapons industry have benefited allot from it.

[Gregor-y]

I'd think Saudi Arabia would be aggrieved party here and other than prosecuting the person we caught there's not much we should be doing with this other than using it to justify our own strained relations with Iran.

[Bob Riebe]

If this is true, it's very worrying :(

BBC News - Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15266992)

Some Americans claim that if this had happened, it would be an at of War and it's difficult to argue otherwise IF this was sponsored by the State of Iran.

Very concerning.The only thing that will happen, unless Obama gets desperate to be re-elected, is a lot of posturing and hot-air being blown about by all concerned.

[Roamy]

I just wonder who is going to POP them and WHEN

[Knock-on]

Tell you the truth Uncs, if Iran does kick off, I might just as well get a nice bottle of Chateau Neuf, you can get a couple of appropriate 'thigh rolled' and we can wax lyrical about how pissed the Koreans will be to have missed out on Rogering us royally.

Then, we can lose hope :s

[555-04Q2]

If this is true, it's very worrying :(

BBC News - Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15266992)

Some Americans claim that if this had happened, it would be an at of War and it's difficult to argue otherwise IF this was sponsored by the State of Iran.

Very concerning.

OIL.

[anthonyvop]

OIL.

Iran is planning to commit acts of terror on US soil because of OIL?

Seriously? That is your comment?

[Roamy]

Lets take em out !!

[Dave B]

I have the perfect xmas pressie for fousto:

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:D

(Seems the forum censors the URL. So may not be SFW! :p )

[Roamy]

I like it I like it

[Roamy]

Ok enough crap - Lets get all the good guys together take over the middle east and go back to driving V-8s and 10 cyl F1s, - have a lotto for all their yachts and cars and relo what left to Sudan. (Keep the hot chicks though) :)

[donKey jote]

OIL.
GAS.

[555-04Q2]

Iran is planning to commit acts of terror on US soil because of OIL?

Seriously? That is your comment?

If you want to take something from somebody, first you make them your enemy, defeat said enemy and then take what it is that you wanted.

OIL.

[Malbec]

If you want to take something from somebody, first you make them your enemy, defeat said enemy and then take what it is that you wanted.

OIL.

Seeing that invading/occupying Iran is an impossibility its safe to say that oil isn't a factor.

Its extremely out of character for the Iranian government to have tried something like this on while leaving a paper trail to Tehran. If it had succeeded and scores of people had been killed it would have been in effect a second 9/11 and the US would have had no option but to act.

If you look at what Iran has been up to in the past few months they are by their own standards looking for a warmer relationship with the west. They've released the two American hikers that were kept in prison purely for political purposes and they've been talking about a deal over nuclear power. Ahmadinejad is in the middle of a massive fight with Khamenei who runs the country with the president even having gone on strike in protest at what he sees as undue interference.

Also, the Saudis and the US have fallen out over recent months over Bahrain and the Arab spring, although both keep this private. The Iranians are usually expert at exploiting rifts like this yet attacking the Saudi ambassador on US soil could only bring the two together.

Finally, the Iranians are also expert at covering their tracks. While everyone knows the Iranians have supported the insurgency in Iraq its been extremely difficult to prove a direct link by capturing Iranian agents in action. In contrast the guy accused in this case seems to have made direct phone calls to a guy in Teheran.

That said, there are some extremist nutcases in the Iranian power structure. A few years ago a prominent Iranian intelligence chief was taken out of service, accused of plotting bomb attacks overseas and was executed so there is history of rogue elements acting without government approval. It could be that this is the case. Alternatively a third party could have pretended to represent the Revolutionary Guard to try and kick off something between Iran and the US.

[555-04Q2]

Then you are most likely one of those who were sure that the US invasion of Iraq was just an excuse to take their oil. Exactly how much Iraqi oil has been diverted to the US? Let's move on to the next bash the US theory please.

1. I did not bash the US. Please don't put words in my mouth :)
2. Yes, Iraq was about the control of oil, construction contracts, security contracts etc in that country.
3. Iran is just another country in the US's crosshairs and has been for a while now.

[Roamy]

Lets Drone Amadickajab and move on!!

[janvanvurpa]

Then you are most likely one of those who were sure that the US invasion of Iraq was just an excuse to take their oil. Exactly how much Iraqi oil has been diverted to the US? Let's move on to the next bash the US theory please.

You cannot expect us to believe that you are as simplistic as you are trying to make us believe with that oft-repeated absurdity.
ONLY you Right wingers AM radio ditto-heads suggest that "diverted to the US" bullcrap.

CONTROL of oil by a nominally US multinational corporation does not mean they have to import the oil to the US.
Oil companies, like all corporations have no national loyalty.

Control is control. Rebuilding is rebuilding, probably by big US corporatoions of the Bechtel/Halliburton type---probably paid from billions of "foreign aid" meaning US Taxpayers pay to repair the infrastructure blow up by American military, so that some nominally US corp can make profits---currently RECORD PROFITS and RECORD CASH LIQUIDITY.

Let's move on to own thoughts rather than repeating what the Voodoo voices on the AM radio rams into your head.

[Zico]

Seeing that invading/occupying Iran is an impossibility its safe to say that oil isn't a factor.

Why do you think it would be impossible?..Do you mean that other Arab states would also likely get involved?

[Bob Riebe]

You cannot expect us to believe that you are as simplistic as you are trying to make us believe with that oft-repeated absurdity.
ONLY you Right wingers AM radio ditto-heads suggest that "diverted to the US" bullcrap.

CONTROL of oil by a nominally US multinational corporation does not mean they have to import the oil to the US.
Oil companies, like all corporations have no national loyalty.

Control is control. Rebuilding is rebuilding, probably by big US corporatoions of the Bechtel/Halliburton type---probably paid from billions of "foreign aid" meaning US Taxpayers pay to repair the infrastructure blow up by American military, so that some nominally US corp can make profits---currently RECORD PROFITS and RECORD CASH LIQUIDITY.

Let's move on to own thoughts rather than repeating what the Voodoo voices on the AM radio rams into your head.

Only a gullible conspiracy theory mark, would post what you just posted.
So as a mark for the conspiracy twits, they got you hook, line and sinker.

[Bob Riebe]

Seeing that invading/occupying Iran is an impossibility its safe to say that oil isn't a factor.



Invading Iran is not impossible but unless their fearless leader is a paranoid moron, there will be no reason.

Pakistan, is probably a far, far, far more deadly problem.

[Malbec]

Why do you think it would be impossible?..Do you mean that other Arab states would also likely get involved?

Because the US doesn't have the military capacity, finances nor the political stomach to back a war and prolonged occupation of Iran.

[Roamy]

Because the US doesn't have the military capacity, finances nor the political stomach to back a war and prolonged occupation of Iran.

don't sell us short - however i think it would be better to have the saudi's take them out

[schmenke]

You cannot expect us to believe that you are as simplistic as you are trying to make us believe with that oft-repeated absurdity.
ONLY you Right wingers AM radio ditto-heads suggest that "diverted to the US" bullcrap.

CONTROL of oil by a nominally US multinational corporation does not mean they have to import the oil to the US.
Oil companies, like all corporations have no national loyalty.
....


???
Oil companies do not control the distribution of oil. OPEC does.

[Roamy]

lets take out OPEC too

[Knock-on]

lets take out OPEC too

Sometimes Uncs you create a post that belies your fast approaching dotage and bestows a clarity of vision on this forum that astounds me.

Sadly, this is not one of those occassions ;)

[janvanvurpa]

???
Oil companies do not control the distribution of oil. OPEC does.

I would bet a whole nickle that once any company BUYS t oil--from whereever and for whatever price, they decide where they want to sell it....thus control distribution..OPEC controls--or tries to---PRODUCTION. Thais what the P in OPEC is....

If the companies that buy oil don't control distribution who does?