Forum complaining

[Daniel]

I'm sorry, I just thought we needed a little bit of balance to the "OMFG Massa assaulted Lewis" crap on the other thread.

I know this is going to be seen as a troll, but let me explain. This forum is becoming tiresome to post on. For a Lewis fanboy, if he'd done what Massa had done (because Massa had ruined his quali and race) they'd probably yammer on about how it shows his passion for winning and how rubbing someone elses arm is racing and how anyone who claims it's assault is racist or just doesn't like Lewis.

Basically, what I'm saying is that we could do well people being a lot less fanboyish behaviour. It's annoying no matter who it is, whether it's that guy who loved Jenson a little too much, whether it's iOan back in his Forza Ferrari days or Lewis' fans who seem to try and find excuses for Hamilton when he makes a mistake. Why not just admit that he made a mistake? He's only human, doesn't mean you can't still be his fan.

Feel free to like this comment if you're sick and tired of the silliness in the post race threads. Would be nice if we could end the season in a more reasonable fashion.

[Daniel]

Put in such an eloquent and impartial way lol.

I'm sorry, but what am I meant to say for instance rather than "Forza Ferrari"? Should I have said that iOan used to say "I say old chap, those gentlemen who work for the estatblishment which is known as Scuderia Ferrari are a wonderful bunch of chaps and I hereby express my undying love of their organisation. I say wot wot old chap! Tally ho and all that sort of stuff"

Rather than see the message and see that maybe a lot of people are annoyed with the way the forum is at the moment, you chose to attack the language I wrote my post in :dozey:

[ArrowsFA1]

Daniel, why start yet another Hamilton thread with the very tone that you claim to be complaining about?

[Daniel]

Daniel, why start yet another Hamilton thread with the very tone that you claim to be complaining about?

It's not a Hamilton thread ffs!!!!!

It's a discussion about how annoying the forum is at the moment.

[Daniel]

Do you think you could have started it in the feedback section with your 'trolling' thread perhaps?

well that one was so well received I felt maybe it would be better to post it in here.

[Daniel]

You enjoy stirring more than anything. This thread is testiment to that theory. Do you think the style in which you post has had an effect on the way you perceive the forum to be lately? Food for thought.

Christ almighty you don't see the obvious joke. Hamilton did not threaten Felipe, just as Felipe didn't assault Hamilton. I was being all Daily Mail about it just as a certain someone was being about Felipe giving Lewis a sarcastic tap on the back.

You honestly think I enjoy stirring? :confused: Yes I love the fact that everytime some small incident with Hamilton happens we have a silly thread. Yes it makes my day, I just love it. Hence why I started a thread here saying how annoying I find it in the secret hope that this sort of crap would continue on and all reasonable people would cease to post in the F1 forum because it's such a crapulent place to post where reasonable discussion generally doesn't happen. Do you honestly think that the forum as it is at the moment is how we should want it to be? :confused:

[truefan72]

just another pointless Daniel Hamilton thread
and for the record, it is threads like these that add to the acidic atmosphere of this forum that you so lament against

It's like the kid who throws the first punch, starts a brawl and then complains about the violence
If you are truly disturbed by the general tone of this forum like I am, you would do what I do, which is to post less and try and ignore many threads
...not keep throwing flames and wondering why it is hot!

[ArrowsFA1]

It's not a Hamilton thread ffs!!!!!

It's a discussion about how annoying the forum is at the moment.
If that's the case then this, and a different thread title, is all you needed:

Basically, what I'm saying is that we could do well people being a lot less fanboyish behaviour. It's annoying no matter who it is...Feel free to like this comment if you're sick and tired of the silliness in the post race threads. Would be nice if we could end the season in a more reasonable fashion.
:up:

[Daniel]

Indeed, starting a thread with 'Lewis Hamilton' in the title and then telling us its not a Lewis Hamilton thread is either confusing or cunning lol.

Henners, you're not stupid and I'm going to resist saying that you are, you fully understand the joke that was made with the title and why it was made. You're also more than intelligent to realise that because something is mentioned in a title, doesn't necessarily mean that this is the actual subject of the thread, especially when the content of the first post in the thread goes on to talk about the way people act on the forum rather than actually going into any detail about anything Lewis did before, during or after the race.

I really can't make it any clearer than that.

[ArrowsFA1]

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[Daniel]

If that's the case then this, and a different thread title, is all you needed:

:up:

Thanks for seeing the point. In retrospect my choice of title was stupid, but lets move on and actually talk about the content of the first post rather than the title which was purely meant to get people to look and which was also meant to be silly (as was the idea that Massa assaulted Lewis).

[Daniel]

Hence the 'lol' at the end of my very brief post.

Sarcasm detection fail on my part evidently...... :p

[Knock-on]

Daniel. You're obsessed.

Give it a rest. The only person making this forum tiresome is you.

All these silly, pointless threads lends me to think you've got some sort of crush on the poor man. :D

[Daniel]

Daniel. You're obsessed.

Give it a rest. The only person making this forum tiresome is you.

All these silly, pointless threads lends me to think you've got some sort of crush on the poor man. :D

The only reason I'm the one posting these threads is because I'm the only one who seems to be bothered about it enough to post a thread, others simply just don't post in here anymore. The fact that there are so few posts in the forum these days after what has been a rather exciting season so far suggests that a lot of people simply don't like being here.

Now it would be silly of me to say that none of it is my fault but I feel that it takes two (or more) to tango and I though perhaps it might be nice to have a thread where we agree that the way things are heading at the moment is only going to destroy the forum and force any sane person still left in here away.

Just a suggestion.

[BDunnell]

Daniel. You're obsessed.

Give it a rest. The only person making this forum tiresome is you.

I might add that there are those of us who feel certain people should stick to commenting on those forms of motorsport about which they are genuinely enthusiastic. This is not a reference to you.

[BDunnell]

The only reason I'm the one posting these threads is because I'm the only one who seems to be bothered about it enough to post a thread, others simply just don't post in here anymore. The fact that there are so few posts in the forum these days after what has been a rather exciting season so far suggests that a lot of people simply don't like being here.

Very true. In my case, I'm genuinely sorry to say you contribute to that.

[Daniel]

Very true. In my case, I'm genuinely sorry to say you contribute to that.

Happy to put my hand up and admit that.

But is the solution to get anyone who dares to criticise a driver and ban them all? Do you honestly think that for instance it would solve the problem to get iOan and myself and remove us from the forum and allow the somewhat questionable conclusions of others on here to go on unopposed? Does that actually solve the problem? You could for instance make the forum a haven for people who really like Lewis and don't want to see him criticised, but is that what we want? Is that what the forum should be?

This is meant to be a discussion forum and IMHO I think the way the forum goes along in some threads at the moment couldn't really be considered to be discussion.

It deeply annoys me that I stuck my head up above the parapet to try and perhaps make things a little better and I've been crapped on for it. Is it inconceivable that someone who is admittedly part of the problem might not be happy with the situation and want to do something about it? :confused:

[Daniel]

just another pointless Daniel Hamilton thread
and for the record, it is threads like these that add to the acidic atmosphere of this forum that you so lament against

It's like the kid who throws the first punch, starts a brawl and then complains about the violence
If you are truly disturbed by the general tone of this forum like I am, you would do what I do, which is to post less and try and ignore many threads
...not keep throwing flames and wondering why it is hot!

It saddens me that you missed the rather obvious point, took a cheap shot at me and got 4 likes for it :confused:

To accuse me of being the root of all the issues on here misses the point by miles. As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango and if you look at the threads that get hot you'll see that the blame lies with both sides. But I'm more than happy to put my hand up and take some of the blame, I'm man enough to do that.

But hey if you want to **** on someone for trying to highlight the issues and do something about it then fine, if other people want to throw their support behind you for it then even better...... but it won't help make the post race threads any less confrontational and offputting for all those but the most stubborn of posters will it?

[BDunnell]

Happy to put my hand up and admit that.

But is the solution to get anyone who dares to criticise a driver and ban them all? Do you honestly think that for instance it would solve the problem to get iOan and myself and remove us from the forum and allow the somewhat questionable conclusions of others on here to go on unopposed? Does that actually solve the problem? You could for instance make the forum a haven for people who really like Lewis and don't want to see him criticised, but is that what we want? Is that what the forum should be?

This is meant to be a discussion forum and IMHO I think the way the forum goes along in some threads at the moment couldn't really be considered to be discussion.

It deeply annoys me that I stuck my head up above the parapet to try and perhaps make things a little better and I've been crapped on for it. Is it inconceivable that someone who is admittedly part of the problem might not be happy with the situation and want to do something about it? :confused:

Put it this way — I know the true F1 enthusiasts on here, and am very happy to discuss the sport with them, no matter what their opinions are. Unfortunately, they tend to get shouted down by those who are absurdly, often childishly, vehement in their views one way or the other. That I find a shame.

[Daniel]

Put it this way — I know the true F1 enthusiasts on here, and am very happy to discuss the sport with them, no matter what their opinions are. Unfortunately, they tend to get shouted down by those who are absurdly, often childishly, vehement in their views one way or the other. That I find a shame.

I know what you're saying. I wasn't lucky enough to spend the whole of my life in a country where the vast majority of races are shown live and at a good time of the day so admittedly when it comes to talking about F1 in the 90's or even the 1st half of this decade then my knowledge is patchy or nonexistent in large parts. It seemed rather pointless to stay up to watch Formula 1 races which weren't even live and when you're a schoolkid it's sometimes just not practical. However when it came to the WRC it was on every sunday afternoon a week or two after the event and I watched most rallies and I'm happy to yammer on about the glory days of rallying in the 90's and into this decade. That's why when it comes to some of the more historic discussion I'll sit out because I simply don't have the knowledge.

But I've watched more or less every GP live since I moved here in mid-2006 and I feel that I can give a reasonably informed opinion on things and when it comes to drivers like Vettel or Hamilton, I have seen every race in their short careers so I feel able to pass comment on them.

I'm sure that helps to understand why I would happily have canopies on the cars and others who've been watching for 20-30 years plus wouldn't want to have them on.

Whilst I understand where you're coming from, I don't really see why not having watched as many GP's as others means I'm not as able to pass comment on GP's that I have seen.

[BDunnell]

Whilst I understand where you're coming from, I don't really see why not having watched as many GP's as others means I'm not as able to pass comment on GP's that I have seen.

To me, this much is obvious in those whose attitudes I object to most. I'm genuinely not trying to be rude in saying that, just stating a fact.

[steveaki13]

Put it this way — I know the true F1 enthusiasts on here, and am very happy to discuss the sport with them, no matter what their opinions are. Unfortunately, they tend to get shouted down by those who are absurdly, often childishly, vehement in their views one way or the other. That I find a shame.

Agreed.

Some people here do get overshadowed by people who post in such a way that it appears threatening and that forces some who don't want the confrontation to back down. While some post hundreds of posts most don't read.

[BDunnell]

Agreed.

Some people here do get overshadowed by people who post in such a way that it appears threatening and that forces some who don't want the confrontation to back down. While some post hundreds of posts most don't read.

The irony of this is that a few of those in question are people whose contributions on other subjects are intelligent, sensible, eloquent and so on — people, in short, I would never wish to ignore completely. But turn the discussion to F1 and they behave... er, rather differently.

[tfp]

:p Shouldnt this thread be in the forum feedback section?

[ioan]

Put in such an eloquent and impartial way lol.

Off all people you should refrain commenting after Lewy's N-th F-up of the season.

Anyway you just made Daniels point valid with your fanboyish post.

I guess Hamy fans are a lot like him. Well done, again! :laugh:

[BDunnell]

There, above, is an example of exactly what I and others are getting at.

It is noteworthy, I think, that the discussion was utterly civil in spite of disagreements until that post got thrown in.

[Daniel]

There, above, is an example of exactly what I and others are getting at.

It is noteworthy, I think, that the discussion was utterly civil in spite of disagreements until that post got thrown in.

I'm sorry Ben, but do you really feel that I was treated in a civil manner earlier on in this thread? Sure iOan threw fuel on the fire as he often does, but others before him had chucked fuel on the fire too. Two wrongs don't make a right etc etc.

[BDunnell]

I'm sorry Ben, but do you really feel that I was treated in a civil manner earlier on in this thread? Sure iOan threw fuel on the fire as he often does, but others before him had chucked fuel on the fire too. Two wrongs don't make a right etc etc.

As a matter of opinion, I didn't think your tone was wise in the first place. Anyway, I've said my piece, fat lot of good the objections I and others have voiced will ever do.

[ioan]

There, above, is an example of exactly what I and others are getting at.

It is noteworthy, I think, that the discussion was utterly civil in spite of disagreements until that post got thrown in.

Excuse me for not reading pages of pro Hamilton gibberish before expressing an opinion. What next? No right to expression cause it bothers you? Are we not all equal in rights?

[Daniel]

As a matter of opinion, I didn't think your tone was wise in the first place. Anyway, I've said my piece, fat lot of good the objections I and others have voiced will ever do.

Sure, my tone wasn't good, but I was annoyed and when you're annoyed you don't think twice about the things you say.

Whilst I understand the objections, what about the objections that I've voiced? Surely it's worth discussing the way people feel on both sides?

[ioan]

Whilst I understand the objections, what about the objections that I've voiced? Surely it's worth discussing the way people feel on both sides?

Good question.

[BDunnell]

In return, excuse me for not bothering to engage with this sort of nonsense any more, preferring as I would to find an outlet for discussing F1 in a sensible, even grown-up fashion.

[ioan]

In return, excuse me ...

You're welcome.

[Daniel]

In return, excuse me for not bothering to engage with this sort of nonsense any more, preferring as I would to find an outlet for discussing F1 in a sensible, even grown-up fashion.

The point I'm trying to make Ben is that the way F1 is being discussed here isn't exactly grown up on either side.

[Daniel]

You're welcome.

Ioan, PLEASE stop trying to drag this thread back to where it was before. Try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem perhaps?

[ioan]

Ioan, PLEASE stop trying to drag this thread back to where it was before. Try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem perhaps?

I think that would be possible if everyone would get off their high horse. Looking forward to see it happen and having a nice chat.

[ioan]

Anyone agree with Hamilton Snr.'s take?

Singapore Grand Prix 2011: Furious Felipe Massa slams Lewis Hamilton for reckless driving at Marina Bay circuit - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8787917/Singapore-Grand-Prix-2011-Furious-Felipe-Massa-slams-Lewis-Hamilton-for-reckless-driving-at-Marina-Bay-circuit.html)



“You look up and down the pit lane and every driver, except for Lewis, has a driver-manager in his life, not people from a company,” he said.

“I am sure his management are very good – I don’t know – but Formula One drivers need people personally involved in the driver’s lives because it is a big pressure.

“They have got to be here and I don’t think you can do the job by sending someone else. I don’t know any other driver-manager who sends someone else to do the job.

[truefan72]

Excuse me for not reading pages of pro Hamilton gibberish before expressing an opinion. What next? No right to expression cause it bothers you? Are we not all equal in rights?

making an opinion based on ignorance tends to lead to fairly foolish posts.
The least you can do is read the thread and understand what is going on, instead of trying to hijack the thread with insults, and obvious trolling behaviour.
At least Daniel has the good sense to read through posts and reply accordingly.

[truefan72]

It saddens me that you missed the rather obvious point, took a cheap shot at me and got 4 likes for it :confused:

To accuse me of being the root of all the issues on here misses the point by miles. As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango and if you look at the threads that get hot you'll see that the blame lies with both sides. But I'm more than happy to put my hand up and take some of the blame, I'm man enough to do that.

But hey if you want to **** on someone for trying to highlight the issues and do something about it then fine, if other people want to throw their support behind you for it then even better...... but it won't help make the post race threads any less confrontational and offputting for all those but the most stubborn of posters will it?

Perhaps if you phrased the thread title differently or whilst making your point not keep trying to make a dig at your least favorite driver then the sentiment might seem more genuine. As it stands from my pov it looks like a backhanded way to continue the subtle bashing whilst simultaneously seeking to insulate yourself from criticism. But that could be just me.

I suppose we can move on to Suzuka and probably another Vettel victory

[ioan]

Perhaps if you phrased the thread title differently or whilst making your point not keep trying to make a dig at your least favorite driver then the sentiment might seem more genuine.

Why argue over form instead of content? Because most probably the content was right.

[Daniel]

Perhaps if you phrased the thread title differently or whilst making your point not keep trying to make a dig at your least favorite driver then the sentiment might seem more genuine. As it stands from my pov it looks like a backhanded way to continue the subtle bashing whilst simultaneously seeking to insulate yourself from criticism. But that could be just me.

I suppose we can move on to Suzuka and probably another Vettel victory

I'm sorry, but you obviously missed the joke with the thread title. Others were claiming that Lewis had been assaulted by Massa in the post race interview.

Somethings the most simply explanation is the one that's right, I'd love to have come up with the idea of having a dig at someone whilst insulating myself from criticism but I'm simply not that smart :laugh:

[CNR]

it was not the liegate or cheat gate that put me off lewis
it was that he refused to go to ron dennis retirement dinner after all that ron had done for him over the years

[airshifter]

My view on the downward trend of the forum bickering is quite simple. There are a handful of posters on here who like to point fingers but can't stand to ever have a finger pointed at them. They are critical of anyone posting anything they don't view as their own opinion, and most often the ones trolling for an argument and then quite often crying victim.

Mark has given us quite a bit of leeway on the forums, and some continue to take advantage of it. I'm really surprised that he hasn't had to resort to a forum "clamp down" as in past years in the F1 forum.

Having said that, I can honestly say that a good 90-95% of the forum members manage to discuss and debate many aspects of F1 without degrading the opinion of the others. I'm sure most that fall into that 5 or 10% that can't act in an adult manner on a regular basis know who they are, and enjoy getting under each others skin. I'll have to assume that those involved didn't get enough attention as children. ;)

[Daniel]

it was not the liegate or cheat gate that put me off lewis
it was that he refused to go to ron dennis retirement dinner after all that ron had done for him over the years

Now which part of "This isn't a Lewis hate thread" did you not quite understand? :confused:

[The Black Knight]

Anyone agree with Hamilton Snr.'s take?

Singapore Grand Prix 2011: Furious Felipe Massa slams Lewis Hamilton for reckless driving at Marina Bay circuit - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8787917/Singapore-Grand-Prix-2011-Furious-Felipe-Massa-slams-Lewis-Hamilton-for-reckless-driving-at-Marina-Bay-circuit.html)

I agree with him completely. Lewis current management isn't good enough.

[Daniel]

Well seeing as this has never been explained by either party and the full reasoning has not been disclosed, why would you construct an opinion based on it? Its a little naive if you don't mind me saying.

Henners, you also know that this is not the thread for a Lewis based argument right?

[SGWilko]

you're not stupid and I'm going to resist saying that you are

If you say he is not stupid, but then go on to say you have had to hold back on saying he is leaves one a little perplexed as to your intellectual ability......

[Daniel]

If you say he is not stupid, but then go on to say you have had to hold back on saying he is leaves one a little perplexed as to your intellectual ability......

Ummmm OK.

So now we're back to being pedantic about posts. Would it have been better if I'd said "Jeez Henners you're an incompetent moron if you don't get the joke" :dozey: Yes because that really puts us further down the road to achieving forum utopia doesn't it.

Why I should feel necessary to deconstruct my post and explain it when no one else, not even henners who I supposedly unsulted (sic) picked up on it, I do not know so I won't.

It has come to my attention that I'm actually some sort of mastermind. I really am. According to one person, I post a thread with a jokey title and explicitly state that it's not a Lewis whining thread so as to give myself cover to achieve my ultimate goal which was to whine about Lewis in a thread which is not one of the half a dozen other Lewis whining threads. I can also insult someone by saying, I don't feel you're an idiot and I'm not going to say that you are. Yes, I really went to bed a happy last night knowing that I'd delivered the killer blow to Henners' ego and it was right there in public for all to see but he didn't catch on.

This has brightened up my Monday morning somewhat.

[Daniel]

I didn't take offence because I hope I made it clear in my response that I had indeed got the joke. I used a 'lol' at the end to show I was laughing as I said it, and therefore understood fully the tone being used. I think you originally jumped the gun in your response to me, but no harm done. :)

Back to work for me unfortunately.

Exactly. Hence why I thought it was strange for SGWilko to then come along after sarcasm detectors were recalibrated and so on and try to manufacture some more ill feeling.

[SGWilko]

Exactly. Hence why I thought it was strange for SGWilko to then come along after sarcasm detectors were recalibrated and so on and try to manufacture some more ill feeling.

I think you just like the sound of your own typing

[Daniel]

I think you just like the sound of your own typing

I think you have a gherkin on your face and you're just jealous of those without gherkins on their faces. Purple monkey dishwasher.......

[SGWilko]

I think you have a gherkin on your face and you're just jealous of those without gherkins on their faces. Purple monkey dishwasher.......

AEG are so much more reliable......

[AndyL]

I'm sorry, I just thought we needed a little bit of balance to the "OMFG Massa assaulted Lewis" crap on the other thread.

I know this is going to be seen as a troll, but let me explain. This forum is becoming tiresome to post on. For a Lewis fanboy, if he'd done what Massa had done (because Massa had ruined his quali and race) they'd probably yammer on about how it shows his passion for winning and how rubbing someone elses arm is racing and how anyone who claims it's assault is racist or just doesn't like Lewis.

Basically, what I'm saying is that we could do well people being a lot less fanboyish behaviour. It's annoying no matter who it is, whether it's that guy who loved Jenson a little too much, whether it's iOan back in his Forza Ferrari days or Lewis' fans who seem to try and find excuses for Hamilton when he makes a mistake. Why not just admit that he made a mistake? He's only human, doesn't mean you can't still be his fan.

Feel free to like this comment if you're sick and tired of the silliness in the post race threads. Would be nice if we could end the season in a more reasonable fashion.

I agree with your sentiment, I too am fed up with the "silliness" and bickering. However I think the second paragraph of your original post, as well as your other posts in this thread, demonstrate that you are as guilty as anyone else. I suggest that if you really are sick and tired of all this schoolyard behaviour, you should simply decline to take part in it.

[Daniel]

I agree with your sentiment, I too am fed up with the "silliness" and bickering. However I think the second paragraph of your original post, as well as your other posts in this thread, demonstrate that you are as guilty as anyone else. I suggest that if you really are sick and tired of all this schoolyard behaviour, you should simply decline to take part in it.

Thanks for agreeing with my sentiment. Strange that it seems there are only two of us who are unhappy with the direction that the discussions on the forum are taking.

I certainly agree that I am part of the problem. But do you honestly think that if I stopped posting on the F1 forum right now that it would all be sunshine and lollipops? :p

[AndyL]

I certainly agree that I am part of the problem. But do you honestly think that if I stopped posting on the F1 forum right now that it would all be sunshine and lollipops? :p

Perhaps if you vow to turn over a new leaf, your good example will become an inspiration to others :)

[Daniel]

Perhaps if you vow to turn over a new leaf, your good example will become an inspiration to others :)

and you're back in the room :p

Come on you've been here for a while, you know it doesn't work like that ;)

[555-04Q2]

It's not a Hamilton thread ffs!!!!!

It's a discussion about how annoying the forum is at the moment.

I know how you feel.....you are one of those bloody annoying members :p : :D ;)

[AndyL]

and you're back in the room :p

Come on you've been here for a while, you know it doesn't work like that ;)

OK how about some maths :)

If two people are arguing, replying to all of each others' posts in a tit-for-tat fashion, then posting will proceed at a static rate. If 3 people are involved, then the posting rate will increase exponentially by powers of 2: the first post will get 2 replies, then those will beget 4 replies, and so on. If 4 people are involved, then the posting rate increases exponentially by powers of 3. For 5 people, it becomes powers of 4, and so on. So one less person involving themselves in the argument can make a significant difference.

[Daniel]

OK how about some maths :)

If two people are arguing, replying to all of each others' posts in a tit-for-tat fashion, then posting will proceed at a static rate. If 3 people are involved, then the posting rate will increase exponentially by powers of 2: the first post will get 2 replies, then those will beget 4 replies, and so on. If 4 people are involved, then the posting rate increases exponentially by powers of 3. For 5 people, it becomes powers of 4, and so on. So one less person involving themselves in the argument can make a significant difference.

I get what you're saying, but if we were all really sensible we'd have used this thread as an opportunity to chillax somewhat and we'd all stop being dingleberries.

[The Black Knight]

There should be a no holds barred thread. Where everyone can say what they like about another forum user and they can't be banned for it.

[Daniel]

There should be a no holds barred thread. Where everyone can say what they like about another forum user and they can't be banned for it.

It should be an optional forum I reckon ;)

I think it would be rather a lot of fun.

[The Black Knight]

It should be an optional forum I reckon ;)

I think it would be rather a lot of fun.

Stop winking at me.

STOP Being nice to me.

You're freaking me out :p

[Daniel]

Stop winking at me.

STOP Being nice to me.

You're freaking me out :p

Mission accomplished.

[555-04Q2]

There should be a no holds barred thread. Where everyone can say what they like about another forum user and they can't be banned for it.

No. There are other forums where you can do that if you feel the need.

[steveaki13]

I also dislike the constant bickering and massive posts pointing out the problems with others views, have a different view by all means but no point trying to tell people how stupid there arguement may be as it will only likely make them ignore you rather than see your points.

[Daniel]

I also dislike the constant bickering and massive posts pointing out the problems with others views, have a different view by all means but no point trying to tell people how stupid there arguement may be as it will only likely make them ignore you rather than see your points.

See that's where you're wrong. Where have I come out and said that I'm not to blame at all and the other people are solely to blame?

[Mark]

If you are partly to blame then perhaps put your own house in order before expecting others to do so?

[Daniel]

If you are partly to blame then perhaps put your own house in order before expecting others to do so?

I'm sorry, but that's the silliest thing I've read and I really would expect more from you.

Basically you're saying that there might be multiple people who are to blame, but I'm the only one who should do something about it. I'm sorry but that is insulting and not at all helpful.

[Daniel]

Its probably the best advice you've had all day. We all have moments where we trigger arguements on here, some more than others, but admitting fault, blaming others and then continuing to do it anyway is counterproductive. seeing as most of the heated debates here over the past few days have you at the centre, why not lead by example?

I'm sorry henners, but it's very stupid advice.

If we both got into a fight with each other in a pub and lets say I stabbed you, would you expect the Police to say "Well if you behave yourself in the future and he does it again THEN we'll do something about it". As they say, two wrongs don't make a right, but just because someone's wrong, doesn't mean they don't want things to be better. It's rather demoralising I must say to start a thread to perhaps try and make things better and then simply be told that all of the problems on the forum are of my causing and I think that's hugely inaccurate.

[Daniel]

What is this moronic obsession with me posting threads with masked topics? First the thread about the pisspoor BBC coverage of Steve Jobs' retirement and now this. Perhaps sometimes it's nice just to read what's on the screen rather than making up some secret meaning :mark:

Do I really strike anyone in here as the sort of person who is afraid to just come out and say what I want to say? :confused: :dozey:

[Daniel]

I'm sorry Daniel but when you start a thread with an opening post that contains such lines as this:

You started a thread by attacking Lewis fans, by calling them 'fanboys' and suggested they are the main reason the forum is the way it is. Total tripe and the impression I got was you using this thread to have a further dig but mask it as an attempt to heal any ill feeling. It was a silly opening post and got the reaction it deserved in the first instance. I'm sorry but this thread has simply highlighted a weakness you have for provoking arguements in my view. It also provided an entrance for ioan to come in and further fan the flames. It would have been better to keep schtum and take a different approach yourself. Thats all I have to say on this to be honest and maybe this thread can now be moved to the feedback section where it can gather abit of dust?

Henners, is it reasonable to say that most of the arguments at the moment revolve around Hamilton topics?

I'm going to assume you're going to say yes to that. If you do feel that most issues revolve around Hamilton topics then is it not reasonable to bring it up as it's relevant? Should I talk about fanatical Alonso fans? No, because there don't seem to be any issues in Alonso topics. Perhaps that explains why I mentioned the issues (as I perceive them) with some of the topics regarding Hamilton.

[Knock-on]

Dan, don't you get the hint.

People from all quarters are trying to give you some advice and all you do is get offended and say they are stupid.

If it looks like Chicken, smells like chicken and tastes like Chicken, it doesn't always mean it's Turkey.

[Daniel]

Dan, don't you get the hint.

People from all quarters are trying to give you some advice and all you do is get offended and say they are stupid.

If it looks like Chicken, smells like chicken and tastes like Chicken, it doesn't always mean it's Turkey.

Why doesn't that analogy work both ways Knockie?

I've posted chicken but apparently it was a sneaky turkey according to some :laugh:

[BDunnell]

Yawn.

[tfp]

This is a funny thread :D
I think, sometimes, people take things a bit too seriously... ;)

[Fred Basset]

Dan, don't you get the hint.

People from all quarters are trying to give you some advice and all you do is get offended and say they are stupid.

If it looks like Chicken, smells like chicken and tastes like Chicken, it doesn't always mean it's Turkey.


Doesn't everyone get it?? DannyBoy isn't the problem, its everyone else lol.. Its all just Danny massaging his ego and increasing his post count every other post

[Warriwa]

That's what these forums are for, to express our views. Negative or positive. I don't think it's tiresome. I think this forum is entertaining.

[Knock-on]

Doesn't everyone get it?? DannyBoy isn't the problem, its everyone else lol.. Its all just Danny massaging his ego and increasing his post count every other post

LOL, some people just love seeing their name on the screen I suppose. Oh well, I'm done here. Will leave it up to Dan to argue with himself and moan about how unfair it all is :wave:

[Mark]

Well this seems to be going nowhere so... Closed!