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Scotty Carnegie
23rd September 2011, 00:09
If you look at modern day rally cars they're all hatchbacks, Citroen, Subaru, Ford, and even hyundai. With that I think that if Ferrari were to use their new Ferrari FF hatchback in WRC I personally think Ferrari would rack up a lot of wins on the rally circuit...What do you guys think???

Mitch555
23rd September 2011, 00:36
Welcome to the forum mate, however we'll never see the Ferrari FF do rallying...

1. It is a V12, not a 1.6L as required by the WRC.
2. If I am correct, Ferrari are still owned by Fiat S.P.A. Ferrari would probably be last on their rallying list and would have companies such as Alfa Romeo, FIAT, Abarth and Lancia much higher on their priority list, especially since Ferrari are in F1.
3. Ferrari have so much success using F1 as their marketing tool, it seems pointless going to rallying. The FF is no where near in line with the other cars even if it could compete, so there would be little benefit. Anyhow, who can afford to buy a Ferrari then drive it on gravel?

Rollo
23rd September 2011, 00:46
It's significantly longer than its potential competitors and would have a massively long bonnet which the both the Celica ST185 and ST205 were criticised for.
As far as I know only the Ferrari 308GTB was used in rallying to limited success.

What commercial advantage is there for FIAT SpA to sully the Ferrari brand it it turns out be a flop? Why bother?

N.O.T
23rd September 2011, 03:28
rally circuit...

No...

Plan9
23rd September 2011, 05:25
I don't think that any car from the Fiat family will be in the WRC sadly. I would have like the new Stratos to do the GT class but I think that Ferrari said no to the prototype being developed for production. I am not sure that Arbath would do anything more than the IRC commitment either. But it would be fun to see a Ferrari one day!!!!!

Barreis
23rd September 2011, 10:29
Ferrari doesn't know what's WRC in last 20 years.

AndyRAC
23rd September 2011, 11:58
I don't think that any car from the Fiat family will be in the WRC sadly. I would have like the new Stratos to do the GT class but I think that Ferrari said no to the prototype being developed for production. I am not sure that Arbath would do anything more than the IRC commitment either. But it would be fun to see a Ferrari one day!!!!!

Agree. It would be nice to see a FIAT car in the WRC, but Ferrari seem to come first....so there's no chance. Shame, I remember when we had Fiat, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo as well as Ferrari competing in F1, WRC, WSC, DTM, etc

N.O.T
23rd September 2011, 12:04
Agree. It would be nice to see a FIAT car in the WRC, but Ferrari seem to come first....so there's no chance. Shame, I remember when we had Fiat, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo as well as Ferrari competing in F1, WRC, WSC, DTM, etc

the only difference was that the budget all these car makes used to do all these things back in the day was 50% lower than what ferrari uses in F1 today....

Plan9
24th September 2011, 01:40
the only difference was that the budget all these car makes used to do all these things back in the day was 50% lower than what ferrari uses in F1 today....
I agree. I don't understand why we have been reduced to worrying about can car companies afford to invest in the WRC. Dude, these are CAR COMPAINES, even in bad years most companies have massive cash reserves (unless it is a certain Swedish brand that used to be amazing) and could easily invest in the WRC but they wont because they are so risk averse these days. i don't know when this will change but I expect more teams will be in the WRC when the world economy has recovered and the EU gets control of its finances. End of rant. =p

Daniel
24th September 2011, 14:32
No...

What's up with you NOT? Have a little bit of imagination, I'm actually quite coming around to this idea of a rally circuit where the the rallies race each other. I imagine that the gravel rallies would have a big advantage with tarmac being so heavy, I mean I can't imagine the whole of the Monte Carlo being incredibly fast being weighed down by all of that tarmac and ice.

Daniel
24th September 2011, 14:33
I agree. I don't understand why we have been reduced to worrying about can car companies afford to invest in the WRC. Dude, these are CAR COMPAINES, even in bad years most companies have massive cash reserves (unless it is a certain Swedish brand that used to be amazing) and could easily invest in the WRC but they wont because they are so risk averse these days. i don't know when this will change but I expect more teams will be in the WRC when the world economy has recovered and the EU gets control of its finances. End of rant. =p

Huh? What a complete load of crap. The only real companies in the world who are doing well are VAG, the Korean's and some of the Japanese brands. Most others are scraping by or losing money.

Daniel
24th September 2011, 14:35
Agree. It would be nice to see a FIAT car in the WRC, but Ferrari seem to come first....so there's no chance. Shame, I remember when we had Fiat, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo as well as Ferrari competing in F1, WRC, WSC, DTM, etc

Another wet behind the ears person who doesn't get it. Don't you see that there will ALWAYS be more of a market for Ferrari's than there is for Fiat's, Lancia's and Alfa Romeo's?

Go check your facts and take a look at the sales figures and you'll see that Ferrari is a mass market brand far more worthy of promotion than the other brands you speak of. Don't you know that nowadays Lancia is a luxury brand?

P.S I'm sure Andy will see the sarcasm from a mile off, but for the rest of you.... this is SARCASM!!!!!

Mitch555
25th September 2011, 00:36
Huh? What a complete load of crap. The only real companies in the world who are doing well are VAG, the Korean's and some of the Japanese brands. Most others are scraping by or losing money.

Even then the Asian brands won't budge as they know how quickly things can go down the drain. Their corporate culture is conservative in comparison with Europe and USA. So they won't come to the party either for a while

Plan9
25th September 2011, 00:57
+1 thanks for that Mitch555

Daniel
25th September 2011, 01:19
+1 thanks for that Mitch555

Call me crazy, but Mitch didn't actually agree with your post?

Plan9
25th September 2011, 01:36
For that matter I didn't think that either of you understood it completely. I acknowledged that car companies have little money at the moment, but I was suggesting that if they really wanted to be involved in the WRC they could find the money, which I am sure some will once the economic crisis has been settled (who knows when that will be). I don't expect everyone to agree with eachother but I think it is important to remember that this is a place for opinions and it should be treated in that regard.

Zeakiwi
25th September 2011, 05:00
I hope any further entries by Ferrari cars in rallies and targa events is more successful than this.

Enzo crashes into ocean at Targa Newfoundland 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaMkT1Dk6xQ)