Rally of Scotland 2011

[wwbroe]

This penultimate round of IRC championship is coming up pretty soon, and untill now not so much information. I am looking for stagemaps or Google Earth file of the stages. Compared to 2009 when i visited the event, it looks like mileage of Craigvinean, Drummond Hill and Errochty have changed. There seem to be also some new stages. Does somebody have more info on this, because the maps i found on official website are very poor. ;)

[wwbroe]

Seems like entries close today and entrylist will be available on wednesday 21th of september. I think they might have a decent entrylist for the first time since they start this rally in IRC in 2009. Looking forward to this gravelevent with very nice stages.

[Mirek]

AFAIK Juho will be there this time.

[RS]

Strong entry for Rally of Scotland - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94680)

[focus206]

Strong entry for Rally of Scotland - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94680)

Great, I love this rally, I hope there will be many competitors this year.
The article doesn't say anything about Proton, does their IRC program include Scotland or not?

[rp]

Great, I love this rally, I hope there will be many competitors this year.
The article doesn't say anything about Proton, does their IRC program include Scotland or not?

Should be. Atkinson replaced P-G in Sanremo, but in Scotland I think they will be Andersson and McRae...

[tolis]

Any live coverage of this rally on Eurosport this year?

[RS]

Any live coverage of this rally on Eurosport this year?

Yes, I think so.

[Jeppe]

Strong entry for Rally of Scotland - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94680)

It definitely looks like Jarkko Nikara is coming to Scotland. I really look for his pace with his Evo IX - should miles ahead of other gr. N cars and R4s IMO...

[RS]

Is Freddy doing Scotland? I read somewhere he is doing Cyprus but not sure about Scotland?

[wwbroe]

Is Freddy doing Scotland? I read somewhere he is doing Cyprus but not sure about Scotland?

Well it isn't sure yet, i think it will also depend on result of San Remo, but i know there are ongoing talks about his participation in Scotland.

[mousti]

Bouffier, Kopecky, Loix, Neuville, Hanninen, Mikkelsen, Wilks, Andersson, McRae, Arai, Bogie, Gardemeister, Kruuda, Sandell, Breen, Barrable, Fisher, Greer these are on the list now

[Mirek]

Looks like finally a strong entry for Scotland as the great stages deserve :)

[PLuto]

Final version of entry list was published - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12771)

[Hartusvuori]

Looks like finally a strong entry for Scotland as the great stages deserve :)

Almost 50% of the entries are S2000. That is good but still not good: where are the 40 or so locals? Still - very good for Scotland to have an entry full of interesting names. I hope Hänninen will show Mikkelsen who's the daddy.

[Mirek]

Does anyone have a clue why Colin McRae stages and Rally Scotland are held separately just few weeks after each other?

[Mirek]

PLuto found the reason for me...

* The possession of Pace Notes (as defined in R25.9) by a Competitor during the course of the rally, whether they relate to this event or not, is forbidden.

* Pre‐event practising or testing over the Special Stages used on this event is forbidden (R5.1.4) and (R26.7).

[RS]

We just need this event to become a round of the British and Scottish Championships next year and it could become even better.

[AndyRAC]

We just need this event to become a round of the British and Scottish Championships next year and it could become even better.

Agree, but I can't see it happening......

[AndyRAC]

Almost 50% of the entries are S2000. That is good but still not good: where are the 40 or so locals? Still - very good for Scotland to have an entry full of interesting names. I hope Hänninen will show Mikkelsen who's the daddy.

Locals can't afford it - plus the Tour of Mull takes place during October...and that is a long established event....

[mousti]

PLuto found the reason for me...

* The possession of Pace Notes (as defined in R25.9) by a Competitor during the course of the rally, whether they relate to this event or not, is forbidden.

* Pre‐event practising or testing over the Special Stages used on this event is forbidden (R5.1.4) and (R26.7).
But isn't there also a national rally during that weekend of Scotland Rally who applies to those rules. Wales Rally GB has the same thing during their event also a national event with some WRC's, Land Rover's, Metro's and for the last time Andy Burton :(

[tolis]

This will be Nikara's first appearance in IRC! Pity he is driving an Evo 9 and not a S2000...

[rp]

This will be Nikara's first appearance in IRC! Pity he is driving an Evo 9 and not a S2000...

Don´t worry! He will show his pace. And driving Evo 9 and beating the most of the S2000 will be very exciting to follow...

[noel157]

Top 20 seeded entry:

1. Bryan Bouffier/Xavier Pansei Peugeot 207 S2000
2. Jan Kopecky/Petr Stary Skoda Fabia S2000
3. Freddy Loix/Frederic Miclote Skoda Fabia S2000
4. Thierry Neuville/Nicolas Gisoul Peugeot 207 S2000
5. Juho Hanninen/Mikko Markkul Skoda Fabia S2000
6. Andreas Mikkelsen/Ola Floen Skoda Fabia S2000
7. Guy Wilks/Phil Pugh Peugeot 207 S2000
8. P-G Andersson/Emil Axelsson Proton Satria Neo S2000
9. Alister McRae/Bill Hayes Proton Satria Neo S2000
10. Toshi Arai/Dale Moscatt Subaru Impreza WRX
11. David Bogie/Kevin Rae Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
12. Tonio Gardemeister/Tapio Suminen Skoda Fabia S2000
14. Karl Kruda/Martin Jarveoja Skoda Fabia S2000
15. Patrmik Sandell/Staffan Parander Skoda Fabia S2000
16. Jarkko Nikara/Petri Nikara Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
17. Craig Breen/Gareth Roberts Ford Fiesta S2000
18. Robert Barrable/Damien Conolly Skoda Fabia S2000
19. Alastair Fisher/Daniel Baritt Ford Fiesta S2000
20. Jonny Greer/Dai Roberts Skoda Fabia S2000
21. Matthias Kahle/Peter Gobel Skoda Fabia S2000

39 entries in total.

[Tom206wrc]

Final version of entry list was published - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12771)


Strange the absence of Martin McCormack :confused:

[focus206]

I see Cetinkaya in a Fabia S2000... someone knows what she did this year? I mean, rallies in Turkey, or what?

[tolis]

I see Cetinkaya in a Fabia S2000... someone knows what she did this year? I mean, rallies in Turkey, or what?
She did 3 rounds of Turkish championship in an Abarth Grande Punto S2000. Best result 8th place.

[focus206]

She did 3 rounds of Turkish championship in an Abarth Grande Punto S2000. Best result 8th place.

Thanks for the information tolis ;)

[Jeppe]

Final version of entry list was published - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12771)

This might not be final version.. Because 2011 Isle of Man Int. Rally (BRC) is cancelled and Rally of Scotland organizers promised that they took BRC competitors to their rally albeit the official entry is closed. But soon we´ll see..

[RS]

TV Schedule: IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=3092)

[RS]

Juho is definitely going to Scotland.

I guess it remains to be seen whether Loix and Bouffier will go now?

[Wim_Impreza]

Loix hasn't the budget to do this rally, he will do the Rally Cyprus. Bouffier will be in Scotland and Cyprus.

[mousti]

Loix has confirmed to not drive in Scotland not because of budget BFO had funds for extra rallies if the title can be gotten it seems because of Juho starting in Scotland Skoda has no extra car anymore..

[wwbroe]

This is not 100% sure yet, i have heard that they would use Mikkelsen's spare car. But nothing comfirmed yet, the budget seems to be in place, but some parts are still missing for the car.

[wwbroe]

It seems now 100 % sure that Freddy will not do Scotland. It is not a financial matter but a logistical one. Skoda is not able to deliver a gravel car for him in time, pitty but so be it.

[J4MIE]

Hopefully it will be another good event, much better entry and seems a great shame that Loix won't be there!! :( As wwbroe said the stages are really nice, and very fast. There has been a lot of heavy rain over the past couple of days and I just hope that there can be good enoguh repairs to the roads after the event yesterday, which also used Drummond Hill, Errochty and Craigvinean. It might be that some sections will be very rough indeed :( They have until Friday morning when the recce starts in those stages.

Here is a video, some parts will be used again next weekend and you can see how rough they are - but look at the weather!! :( McRae Stages Rally 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHMjLSjtOLs)

[AndyRAC]

Hmm, there were plenty of complaints on the BritishRally forum about the conditions - seems madness to have 2 events in succession.....but, only in UK.

[J4MIE]

There was meant to be a two week gap but Mull switched dates, then Rally of Scotland had to move due to marshal/rescue availability etc.

[AndyRAC]

There was meant to be a two week gap but Mull switched dates, then Rally of Scotland had to move due to marshal/rescue availability etc.

I know, it's also the same weekend as the Cambrian, one day organisers will get round the table and stop these clashes. It does the sport no good. Saying that, IRC Rally Scotland will hopefully run early next year.

[driveace]

Well the stages used yesterday for the Colin McRea rally were really cut up ,and i cannot see the same stages used next week. The hairpins on both Drummond Hill and Craigvinean were really really bad after the consistant rain of yesterday. SO maybe they will have to use different parts of those two stages ,for the Rally of Scotland!

[mousti]

Won't be easy to change stages so early before the rally because of the government although with the roads in the forest could be another deal as we have here.

[Hartusvuori]

Who will you fight with?
“If I come, we must remember this. If I come, I think it will be a big battle with Andreas [Mikkelsen]. In the Azores this year, we had such a big fight with him, it was incredible. I think he will be the main person, but then there are other drivers who will be close as well – [Guy] Wilks will be difficult there as well. It will be a very big fight and a really tough battle, but a great place for the fight.”Q&A: Juho Hänninen (http://www.ircseries.com/html/ReadDynNews.asp?id=61) from IRC site. Shouldn't it be sure by now that he will do Scotland. That interview was released last Friday.

[Mirek]

Q&A: Juho Hänninen (http://www.ircseries.com/html/ReadDynNews.asp?id=61) from IRC site. Shouldn't it be sure by now that he will do Scotland. That interview was released last Friday.

Juho will be there.

[dimviii]

nice!

[RICARDO75]

Patrik Sandell tests
Patrik Sandell - test before Rally Scotland 2011 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/IZsrs1_UGm0)
Patrik Sandell test before Rally Scotland day2 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/dWBuGR_5000)

[J4MIE]

Weather is looking showery, if you will be going to the stages I would recommend bringing your waterproof clothes, boots and/or an umbrella!! :cool: I am starting to get quite excited about it now...

[dimviii]

Patrik Sandell tests
Patrik Sandell - test before Rally Scotland 2011 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/IZsrs1_UGm0)
Patrik Sandell test before Rally Scotland day2 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/dWBuGR_5000)

are they a little bit fast forward?

[Allyc85]

They do look bloomin fast, especially for S2000!

[Viking]

Radio test success for Andreas | Andreas Mikkelsen (http://www.andreasmikkelsen.no/news/radio-test-success-for-andreas/)

"This morning, (Wednesday) teams are struggling to assemble their service areas, as high winds and heavy rain sweep over Perth airport. The forecast appears changeable for the rest of the week, with heavy rain tomorrow, sun on Friday, light rain on Saturday and sunny internals on the final day of Rally of Scotland."

[J4MIE]

Proper "Rallying in Scotland" weather then ;)

[focus206]

Proper "Rallying in Scotland" weather then ;)

Am I the only one who like this kind of weather? :D

[tolis]

@focus206: No, off course! ;)

[RS]

are they a little bit fast forward?

I think on the first one it is just that the camera was very low to the ground.

[Tom206wrc]

Am I the only one who like this kind of weather? :D



I hate rain when motorsport runs :mad:

[michael_jenkins]

Hi All

I'm off to the Rally of Scotland this weekend, coming from Oxfordshire.

I was hoping to sleep in the car on the stages (As I've always done at Wales Rally GB) but it would appear that car parks don't open until a couple of hours before the stages go live?

Does anyone else have experience of this?

Thanks
Mike

[J4MIE]

Just a word from experience, if anyone is going to watch in Craigvinean and is parking at the hermitage, it is a grass field and I've seen it get very muddy when it rains, and seen people struggling to drive out of the deep mud! Bear this in mind if you are trying to rush to the next stage...

Mike, don't know about this year but have slept in the car at the stages before without a problem, it might be you have to find somewhere overnight and move to the car parks in the morning. Luckily due to the late start on Saturday I can make it home on Friday night, and my brother stays in Stirling so is convenient for Saturday night visit :D

[J4MIE]

Depending on mobile signal I will try to give some updates through the event on here or twitter @bigrallyfan :)

[AndyRAC]

I went 2 years ago to Loch Achray, can't understand why they don't open the forest car parks the night before, like on RallyGB. That all adds to the adventure - parking in a layby overnight isn't my idea of fun.

[BDunnell]

parking in a layby overnight isn't my idea of fun.

There are Premiership footballers and former Cabinet ministers who would disagree.

[AndyRAC]

There are Premiership footballers and former Cabinet ministers who would disagree.

Ha, ha...... :D

[Voice of Rally]

Hi Guys,

Here’s my preview for this week’s Rally Scotland - stages look interesting!

Colin Clark Scotland Preview - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbfai6zSog8&feature=channel_video_title)

[gregwrc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvWj1CmZYm4

[J4MIE]

Arrived at shakedown about 30 minutes ago, not many still running, was hoping they would want to have a run in the dark. From driving here you would hardly know anything was happening, very few signs etc. Not long to go now then home again.

[J4MIE]

Btw looks like weather forecast has improved, only a little mud on the road here but oh so rough !!

[Hartusvuori]

^ Jamie, I hope you'll have a great rally. Cheer for Juho for me :-)

[wwbroe]

Any news on shakedowntimes, not much to find on the web?

[AndyRAC]

Btw looks like weather forecast has improved, only a little mud on the road here but oh so rough !!

Rough, hmm not much of a surprise, following last weeks McRae Stages...

However, enjoy, should be a good event - and finally a good entry for the organisers.

[J4MIE]

Few photos from shakedown - poor effort I know!!

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293494_10150853998825612_529115611_21232565_235890 12_n.jpg
Wilks

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321695_10150853999065612_529115611_21232568_113523 902_n.jpg
Bouffier

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310375_10150853998920612_529115611_21232567_973346 878_n.jpg
Cetinkaya

[pucky54]

Times, Shakedown, Rally of Scotland:
1. Bryan Bouffier (FRA), Peugeot 207 S2000, 2m09.9s
2. Guy Wilks (GBR), Peugeot 207 S2000, 2m10.1s
3. Thierry Neuville (BEL), Peugeot 207 S2000, 2m10.4s
4. Jarkko Nikara (FIN), Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX, 2m10.7s
5. Robert Barrable (IRL), Skoda Fabia S2000, 2m16.0s
6. Burcu Cetinkaya (TUR), Skoda Fabia S2000, 2m34.3s
7. Jean-Michel Raoux (FRA), Renault Clio, 2m36.1s
8. Jussi Kumpumaki (FIN), Ford Fiesta, 2m41.3s
9. Arman Smailov (KAZ), Subaru Impreza, 2m43.4s
10. Marco Cavigioli (ITA), Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX, 2m44.7s
11. Janos Puskadi (HUN), Honda Civic Type R, 2m46.8s
12. John MacCrone (GBR), Ford Fiesta, 2m48.4s

[RS]

Not complete times or lots of crews did not run?

It will be interesting to see how Gardemeister and the Protons run this weekend as we haven't seen either on gravel in IRC this year. Andreas was pretty quick here last year so I guess the Hankook gravel tyres are better than asphalt.

[focus206]

What to expect from Alister McRae? Can he fight for good positions if the car doesn't break?

[VFTS]

[quote="RS"]Not complete times or lots of crews did not run?

QUOTE]

Lots of crews didnt compete because of bad stagecondition.

[6789]

iRally is reporting that organisers have called on a heavy rolled to flatten the Craigvinean stage and maybe the Drummond Hill stage.

[dumb]

Where can I find live stage times?

Thank you.

[6789]

Where can I find live stage times?

Thank you.
ircseries.com and listen online at LISTEN LIVE HERE On air: (http://www.rallyradio.com/RallyRadio/Welcome.html) Stages don't got live for 12 hours or so :)

[J4MIE]

I think the problem with the stages is that they are very soft, there has been a huge amount of rain this year (here in Fife it's been the wettest summer for nearly 100 years!!) and not really any long dry periods which you'd expect at some point in the summer. This.combined with last weekend's event is pretty unfortunate. Still, I imagine that Cyprus is far rougher...

[Hartusvuori]

8. Jussi Kumpumaki (FIN), Ford Fiesta, 2m41.3s



When did he enter? I don't see his name on either international or national entries. Hope he drives a good rally, as he will :-)

[J4MIE]

What to expect from Alister McRae? Can he fight for good positions if the car doesn't break?

We'll see I guess, I can't help but think that the Proton's reliability record keeps getting the way of having confidence in a good result. He knows the stages and conditions better than anyone, and even though he had a good result a few years ago, the poor entry and retirements helped a lot... I will be cheering him on though :D

I heard last night that there is a sprinkling of snow in the Loch Chon stage....

[J4MIE]

When did he enter? I don't see his name on either international or national entries. Hope he drives a good rally, as he will :-)

Must have been a late entry? Would imagine that he will be reseeded higher up...

Results available also at Results - Main Index (http://beta.djames.org.uk/results/?m=23) which I have found to be reliable at past events.

[Wim_Impreza]

J4MIE, can you tell me who are the Scottish drivers and co-drivers as there aren't again no Scottish flags on the entry lists? Enjoy the rally.

[J4MIE]

J4MIE, can you tell me who are the Scottish drivers and co-drivers as there aren't again no Scottish flags on the entry lists? Enjoy the rally.

For International events, competitors must display the flag of the country they have their International competition license from - and so drivers from Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland must use the UK flag - unless they have another country's competition license. For instane Tom Cave got his in Latvia so has to have a Latvian flag (don't know if this is still the case but he has in the past).

Scottish Competitors:

#09 Alister McRae
#11 David Bogie & Kevin Rae
#34 John MacCrone & Stuart Louden
#38 Ruary MacLeod & Keir Beaton
#30 Graeme Schoneville & Michael Hendry

In particular , Graeme Schoneville is great to watch - always trying hard, sideways everywhere, will be good to see if he can keep this up in a Civic Type R but I hope so :bounce: :bounce:

[Wim_Impreza]

Thanks J4MIE.

[HarriK]

Kumpumäki has Marko Salminen co-driving

[J4MIE]

Just looked at the start time of Drummond Hill 2 which is 18:52 and it won't be 100% dark by then so will more than likely be a small advantage to be the first few cars on the road! They should have delayed the start by about 10-15 minutes or so I think. Although in the dark you can't see the drops.................

[RS]

Just looked at the start time of Drummond Hill 2 which is 18:52 and it won't be 100% dark by then so will more than likely be a small advantage to be the first few cars on the road! They should have delayed the start by about 10-15 minutes or so I think. Although in the dark you can't see the drops.................

I personally prefer to drive in full dark than half/half, but then I am not a rally driver. I don't think it makes much difference to the pros full dark vs. light.

[dumb]

ircseries.com and listen online at LISTEN LIVE HERE On air: (http://www.rallyradio.com/RallyRadio/Welcome.html) Stages don't got live for 12 hours or so :)

Thanks, mate. I know, the race will start at 21,00 Lithuanian time :)

Thank you for the radio.

[Mintexmemory]

How about a Cetinkaya prediction game
Options are:
Stage when first 'off' occurs
Stage when last 'off' occurs
No of R2 cars that finish ahead of her if she makes it to the end.
I've watched her in a Fiesta R2 and the 207 S2000 -the Scottish conditions will be a real shock to her system!

[J4MIE]

How about a Cetinkaya prediction game
Options are:
Stage when first 'off' occurs
Stage when last 'off' occurs
No of R2 cars that finish ahead of her if she makes it to the end.
I've watched her in a Fiesta R2 and the 207 S2000 -the Scottish conditions will be a real shock to her system!

She has been here before, if I remember correctly she held up someone (can't remember who.... French?) in Blackcraig last year.

[Mintexmemory]

:rolleyes: cheersJ4MIE, was it this soft last year though? My failing memory is that it was very hard. If so she won't have met anything like this event promises to be, normally she sticks to tarmac (when not flying off it) or rock hard gravel (a la Turkey). Anyway my prediction is - first off SS2, Final off (on super rally) SS6

[J4MIE]

Sorry Mintex, I see your point :) My memory must be fading also as I can't remember what it was like last year, was dry I think but dusty.

[rage82]

I'm almost sure that last year was dry with a lot of sunshine.

[Iain]

I'm tempted by a trip to Carron Valley on Sunday morning. Not every day there's an international rally stage 30 mins from home! All depends on if there's many cars left and it's not raining!

[J4MIE]

Iain. Get yourself there no matter what. That is all.

[Nornbugger]

I'm tempted by a trip to Carron Valley on Sunday morning. Not every day there's an international rally stage 30 mins from home! All depends on if there's many cars left and it's not raining!
???? 30 mins and you are only tempted?? They have a real good entry this year and I wish I'd planned my holidays different earlier this year and could go

[J4MIE]

I am on my way to Carron Valley at the moment, or at least I will be when my lift arrives......... :\

[dimviii]

rally starts in 1 hour or 2?

[Gregor-y]

Are there stages with coverage today? Seems kind of late there.

[noel157]

Are there stages with coverage today? Seems kind of late there.

Saw these times elsewhere, local time I presume:

TV Times for the weekend

Saturday
12:00-13:00 on Eurosport UK and Eurosport HD
17:30-18:30 on Eurosport UK 2 and Eurosport HD

Sunday
11:00-12:00 on Eurosport UK and Eurosport HD

13:45hrs-14:45hrs: LIVE SS13 High Corrie 2 (Eurosport Player ONLY)

Official TV times:

http://www.ircseries.com/html/uploadedFiles/documents/tv.times.pdf

[Hartusvuori]

Bouffier in the finish of SS1.

[wwbroe]

Does anybody have any stage times?

[Gregor-y]

It's on now at 14.00 my time which means it's 20.00 or 21.00 in Scotland. Regardless, it's a nice way to kill the rest of a Friday afternoon at work!

[focus206]

on the IRC site I see comments from the drivers, but not stage times :\

EDIT: now first times are appearing

[Hartusvuori]

Does anybody have any stage times?

I was wondering too why they don't update to the page.

Q: Juho, how the dark?
A: It's quite dark.

Hmm... ;-)

[Hartusvuori]

Good time from Wilks.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Also very nice time from PG Andersson... let's see how he will do in the next stage... I mean... let's see if Proton stay "alive" hehe

[Wim_Impreza]

Karl Kruuda: "There was a lot of gravel". :D

[Hartusvuori]

Karl Kruuda: "There was a lot of gravel". :D

For an IRC rally - yes! ;-)

[noel157]

Results very slow and girl on RR getting a bit confused. Did Fisher or Barrable go off?

[Sulland]

I was wondering too why they don't update to the page.

Q: Juho, how the dark?
A: It's quite dark.

Hmm... ;-)

Typical answer from a Finn, short and to the point ! ;)

[focus206]

Kruuda on SS2:
Not very good. On this stage I drove 1.5 km behind one guy, so I'm disappointed

[focus206]

And also Sandell:
Absolutely great until last kilometer, when we cought slow 2WD car. I'm angry, it was stupid from the organizers.

What's with the starting order?

[Nornbugger]

And also Sandell:
Absolutely great until last kilometer, when we cought slow 2WD car. I'm angry, it was stupid from the organizers.

What's with the starting order?

ss2 is a rerun of ss1 running through the later ss1 runners if this makes sense? Not a good idea on gravel

[dimviii]

2wd in front of Sandell? lol @ organizers

[focus206]

Andersson is 3rd overall now!

[dimviii]

Andersson is 3rd overall now!

muddy terrain will help Andersson with the less powerfull proton.

[wwbroe]

Really nice performance by Andersson, looking good in the Proton and much faster as Alistair who is at home at these stages.

[dimviii]

No Bogie??

[tolis]

No Bogie??
Bogie is 13th.

[wwbroe]

What a time for Craig Breen, he is also in the lead overall :)

[wwbroe]

Apparently they changed Breen's time, he is now fourth overall

[Gregor-y]

Not any more.

[wwbroe]

Times are changing all the time, not very accurate.

[dimviii]

Bogie is 13th.

Thanks Tolis

[tolis]

Goooooo Burcu! :D

[RS]

Great performance by PG. It shows the chassis is fundamentally pretty good at least.

Gardemeister disappointing again. When PG can set those times in the Proton there is little excuse.

Cetinkaya made a big improvement on her first run though but is still rubbish :D

Really looking forward to tv stages tomorrow!

[dimviii]

2nd faster Breen at ss2.

[focus206]

Barrable retired... what happened to him? :(

[Nornbugger]

Barrable retired... what happened to him? :(


and Fisher?

[Barreis]

Will see tommorow in the light the times of PG.

[noel157]

Barrable left the road on SS1, retired. Fisher started late but now lying 7th, good start, 2nd drive in a S2k, first time on gravel. Great start from Breen and PG too.

[J4MIE]

No mobile signal at Carron Valley.

Cars started at two-minute intervals and were slotted in for the next stage after approx 20 mins. Barrable went off on a muddy right hander about 2 miles from end of stage, very little damage so will restart, got pulled back onto the road and he drove out the stage. Fisher went wide and nearly joined him but got away with it. I think the problem with catching the slower cars was because it is a fast stage and not many places to pull over...

I walked approx 3 miles from start of stage, very very very fast, then it got muddier and more bends near the end. Kruuda trying very hard and looked fast, also PG, Wilks and Mikkelsen looked very good :up:

Heading home now, will get a few pics up but they are not very good!

[J4MIE]

Bogie
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303017_10150856255990612_529115611_21244461_334922 295_n.jpg

Neuville
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/296707_10150856256270612_529115611_21244467_870122 462_n.jpg

Kruuda :up:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303288_10150856256150612_529115611_21244465_206219 9130_n.jpg

[J4MIE]

Barrable getting pulled out
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317557_10150856256635612_529115611_21244473_144336 2107_n.jpg

[Gregor-y]

Not bad pictures at all. Those are the sort of stages where I don't want to get back in the car because it'll be a mess the rest of the weekend.

[6789]

Why is Juho off the pace so much? He he taking it easy or something. Thanks for the photos, looks very muddy!!

[J4MIE]

Not bad pictures at all. Those are the sort of stages where I don't want to get back in the car because it'll be a mess the rest of the weekend.

Hehe both inside and outside!! :D

And can I just say, I know it is 2 minute intervals due to the tv coverage, but.... damn them... I want 1 minute intervals!

Apparently Graeme Schoneville hit a deer on the way to SS1.... :(

On my way to Craigvinean, sun just coming up, passed a small shower but it's expected to be largely dry... fingers crossed! :)

Hope the tv coverage goes ok and there aren't any problems with it. :)

[J4MIE]

Just arrived, there is only about 4-5 cars in the spectator car park. If this was France or Italy there would be hundrrds... Is there something about this event that makes it less popular?

The burger van we are told has got stuck :(

[Tom206wrc]

GO WILKS !!!! :bounce:

[dimviii]

photos
IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.ircseries.com/html/Gallery_Details.asp?pagId=1&pagSize=20&nome=Rally+of+Scotland+2011&id=41)

[J4MIE]

Dry in Craigvinean but starting to rain lightly.... First 4 very sideways!! :D

[dimviii]

damn very slow results

[6789]

Great start by Andreas, got the stage win from Wilks. Juho doesn't seem to like the conditions or something? He's down 20 seconds approx

[focus206]

Which stages are covered by Eurosport?

[pucky54]

Which stages are covered by Eurosport?

5,7,11&13

[dimviii]

Hanninen seems to take it easy avoiding problems.I think that he would like to be just in front of Neuville and Bouffier.
Have a look at standings.Mikkelsen and Wilks are behind in standings.
eWRC-results.com - Season 2011 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2011&section=5#bodovani)

[6789]

5,7,11&13
Thanks for that, didn't know it was live. Kopecky currently outside the top ten in 11th, will need to pick up the pace!

[focus206]

5,7,11&13

Thanks!

[6789]

I'm looking for a stream, let me know if you guys find one :)

[Karbonyl]

Go to google and search "Rally Scotland online stream" :D

[6789]

Go to google and search "Rally Scotland online stream" :D
Thanks, think I have found something, hope it works. My usual stream site got closed down lol

[tolis]

I'm looking for a stream, let me know if you guys find one :)
Eurosport, TV Tuga Online, TVTuga em Directo, Grátis em www.tvdez.com (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)
in Portuguese though!

[6789]

Eurosport, TV Tuga Online, TVTuga em Directo, Grátis em www.tvdez.com (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)
in Portuguese though!
Thanks :)

Another stage win by Andreas!!! New rally leader

[Tom206wrc]

No Hänninen in SS4 ???? :confused:


Edit: OK he talked after SS4 so he's here... ;)

[ridder]

Quite impressed by Neuville, was expecting him to be around Bouffier. Hanninen's lack of a pace is a surprise too.

EDIT: Huh, Bouffier now listed as fastest on SS4? Would think that's a timing error.

[RS]

For me, Juho has been a little off the boil this year after Monte Carlo. Still think he may be able to battle back here though.

[dimviii]

Kopecky +30!!

[dimviii]

Boyffier 1st time!!

[Tom206wrc]

It was so long time Bouffier hadn't a fastest stage on an IRC event !!!! :)

[gregwrc]

Eurosport, TV Tuga Online, TVTuga em Directo, Grátis em www.tvdez.com (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)
in Portuguese though!

thanks toli !!!! I can't wait .... less than an hour .....

[J4MIE]

It is raining in Ss4, very slippy.

[Karbonyl]

Tom, I think Bryan's time is a timing error.

[RS]

This is turning out to be a very interesting rally! Looking forward to the tv stages :up:

[gregwrc]

Britsh Eurosport Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/1298/1/britsh-eurosport.html)

In 11 minutes the stage will be "in the air"

[Tom206wrc]

Tom, I think Bryan's time is a timing error.


What's his real time then :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

McRae announced stopped in SS5 :mark:

[tolis]

Oil pressure problem for McRae.

[tolis]

Wilks outttttt!

[gregwrc]

Wilks outttttt!

this is a pity but this is rallying

[rallyfiend]

this is a pity but this is rallying

Hard to see them wanting to give him another go next year.

The end of Peugeot UK?

[tolis]

Wilks is going again!

[tolis]

Mikkelsen is flying!

[gregwrc]

What's his real time then :confused:

who knows..... :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Bad luck for Wilks that ditch :mad:

[focus206]

Too bad for Wilks and Alister :(

[RS]

Fantastic tv footage again. I'm at work so I payed the £3.99 for a month's subscription to Eurosport Player and I was happy to do so - reliable and high quality streaming.

I hope Wilks can continue next year - he hasn't done a perfect job this year but then neither have his team.

[6789]

I would have paid the money for the stream, shame it's not available in Aus. Great times by Andreas, hope he can continue like this

[pettersolberg29]

PG's Proton won't start - he's pushing it into service.

[focus206]

PG's Proton won't start - he's pushing it into service.
Damn it :mad:
How Proton manage to finish (and to win) APRC events if when doing IRC events they hardly ever finish the rally?

[RS]

Damn it :mad:
How Proton manage to finish (and to win) APRC events if when doing IRC events they hardly ever finish the rally?

I was thinking about this the other day and I reckon they 'turn the engines up' a bit more for IRC and also the drivers have to push more in order to be competitive. At least the times Basso drove in Italy and PG here are definitely moving forward. Hope they can fix PGs car.

[J4MIE]

Back to Craigvinean, have to say very impressive driving by the top guys so far :up: Been to all 3 stages so far, got to Errochty 1 minute before Bogie appeared :D He looks really good, trying hard after losing that time last night.

Rain was on for a while earlier but maonly dry, but I've had to lift a few big rocks off the road. Not cutting up as bad as I'd expected, the work done is doing the trick so far mainly :up:

Will see everyone through here, then head up to see Drummond Hill in the dark :eek:

[focus206]

I was thinking about this the other day and I reckon they 'turn the engines up' a bit more for IRC and also the drivers have to push more in order to be competitive. At least the times Basso drove in Italy and PG here are definitely moving forward. Hope they can fix PGs car.

I didn't know the level of competition in the APRC was so low...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Real shame for us British fans to lose McRae, and then Wilks chances for the Rally :(

Wilks really needed a good result here after such a bad season. And with the economic situation I can see Peugeot UK pulling out now and Wilks struggling to get a drive in 2012.

[HaCo]

Neuville is just incredible! Mikkelsen confirms. Bouffier not bad. Hanninen disappoints.

[Iain]

Jamie, which bit of Carron Valley should I head for do you think? The East carpark or the West? :)

[dimviii]

lol
Burcu Çetinkaya says she is pleased with her performance on her return to the Intercontinental Rally Challenge,

IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=3190)

[tolis]

lol
Burcu Çetinkaya says she is pleased with her performance on her return to the Intercontinental Rally Challenge,

IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=3190)
Why not? Don't forget it is her first appearance in the Fabia S2000! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Why not? Don't forget it is her first appearance in the Fabia S2000! :D


I think she got her best result two years ago in Scotland with the Peugeot Turkey 207 S2000(ended in top10 but there was far less entries at that time) ;)

[Barreis]

:D

[VFTS]

PG got 130sec penalty because of the electric problems.

[dimviii]

stage must be destroyed.All 3 crews till now they have finished are slower

[pettersolberg29]

I haven't been able to celebrate any of my favourite drivers winning anything major since Mexico 2005 when Petter won. Since then Nick Heidfeld has had a torrid, winless time in F1, Petter has had a succession of poor cars and bad luck and Andreas has grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory many times the last couple of years. Tomorrow may finally be the day I can celebrate a result...it'll feel very odd I'm sure!

Best of luck to Andreas - he has shown he is undoubtedly the fastest gravel driver in the IRC, beating even Juho conviningly in equal machinery. Neuville and Breen also deserve mentions for their pace so far - three young talents who may have a large part to play in the WRC in the next decade or so.

[RS]

I haven't been able to celebrate any of my favourite drivers winning anything major since Mexico 2005 when Petter won. Since then Nick Heidfeld has had a torrid, winless time in F1, Petter has had a succession of poor cars and bad luck and Andreas has grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory many times the last couple of years. Tomorrow may finally be the day I can celebrate a result...it'll feel very odd I'm sure!


I don't think I'd have said that out loud mate!

[Wim_Impreza]

Strange that drivers who used SupeRally are still in the overall results (right colom), as example Robert Barrable. That wasn't the case in other IRC events this year and also not in this rally last year.

[dimviii]

I don't think I'd have said that out loud mate!

He is already have jinx him :p

[pettersolberg29]

He is already have jinx him :p

I'm so confident that I'm hoping I've jinxed the jinx by saying it out loud ;)

[SubaruNorway]

Anybody else having problems with the eurosportplayer? Internal server error.

[focus206]

Any link for streaming?

[Hipo1990]

Racing - Intercontinental Rally Challenge in Scotland Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/10953/3/racing---intercontinental-rally-challenge-in-scotland.html)

[dimviii]

I'm so confident that I'm hoping I've jinxed the jinx by saying it out loud ;)

Definetely Andreas deserves at least a win.Fastest driver by far in IRC this year.
Is anybody who has count ss wins in IRC for 2011?

[focus206]

Thanks :)

[dimviii]

Racing - Intercontinental Rally Challenge in Scotland Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/10953/3/racing---intercontinental-rally-challenge-in-scotland.html)

thanks hipo!

[Barreis]

Racing - Intercontinental Rally Challenge in Scotland Live Stream Online (http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/10953/3/racing---intercontinental-rally-challenge-in-scotland.html)

Thx.

[focus206]

2 spins for Neuville, I think...
Hope he recovers :(

[Hartusvuori]

Is anybody who has count ss wins in IRC for 2011?

I didn't find any proper stats, but I counted ss wins myself with help from eWRC-results:

Mikkelsen 27
Neuville 22
Kopecky 19
Loix 19
Hänninen 17
Wilks 8
Bouffier 7
+ few others

So Mikkelsen tops it, but on the other hand he has also started each event.

On Scotland, I was expecting such a performance by Mikkelsen and he would really deserve a win. I'm too puzzled by lack of performance from Hänninen. There must be something that keeps him leashed, other than just lack of confidence to traction. And Nikara humiliating Gardemeister, great!

[N.O.T]

I think hanninen will be the one to celebrate at the end.

[Barreis]

I'm waiting for the Cyprus, nice roads.

[Hartusvuori]

I think hanninen will be the one to celebrate at the end.

As it looks now, so might be the case. If he could take 20 secs from Mikkelsen, that would help. But of course 2nd is better than 6th in the morning, but gaining it by others falling one by one, wise but not what I wanted to see.

[dimviii]

I didn't find any proper stats, but I counted ss wins myself with help from eWRC-results:

Mikkelsen 27
Neuville 22
Kopecky 19
Loix 19
Hänninen 17
Wilks 8
Bouffier 7
+ few others

So Mikkelsen tops it, but on the other hand he has also started each event.

On Scotland, I was expecting such a performance by Mikkelsen and he would really deserve a win. I'm too puzzled by lack of performance from Hänninen. There must be something that keeps him leashed, other than just lack of confidence to traction. And Nikara humiliating Gardemeister, great!

thanks for the stats mate!!
About Juho i think that he is taking it easy.Points from Scotland are x 1,5.So he hasn t got to win,just to be ahead of the frontruners of championship.Till now he has managed this.
But i don t think that he is not so fast anymore.Battles with Tanak proves enough speed.

[Hartusvuori]

SS8 cancelled?

[dimviii]

where did you heard that?

[Hartusvuori]

where did you heard that?

Rally radio. Uncomfirmed yet but they are working on it. Stage should have started 10 minutes ago and there are no cars on stage according to the results service.

[Hartusvuori]

It's comfirmed now: SS8 cancelled. Too bad conditions.

[dimviii]

It's comfirmed now: SS8 cancelled. Too bad conditions.

:(

[Jordib]

Why??? that's rally, should be a very good reason to cancel a stage...

[Wim_Impreza]

It's comfirmed now: SS8 cancelled. Too bad conditions.

I thought this could only be in the WRC and F1 for this reason...

Completely agree with Jordib.

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty the mistake Neuville did on SS7 :(

[dimviii]

I thought this could only be in the WRC and F1 for this reason...

Completely agree with Jordib.

Wim we don t know the conditions how bad they are.In an accident (touch wood) will the ambulance could go in time? If a crew was inside a car with injuries will the ambulance could drive through the mud?Or the rescue team ?

[Wim_Impreza]

Wim we don t know the conditions how bad they are.In an accident (touch wood) will the ambulance could go in time? If a crew was inside a car with injuries will the ambulance could drive through the mud?Or the rescue team ?

I am sure when this was a SS which was shown live on TV, the SS wasn't cancelled.

[bluuford]

Wim we don t know the conditions how bad they are.In an accident (touch wood) will the ambulance could go in time? If a crew was inside a car with injuries will the ambulance could drive through the mud?Or the rescue team ?

Ambulance has to get there in any conditions. My friend is ambulance driver and he never understand why all people want to excuse bad conditions with the possibility that ambulance cannot get there. They are trained to get everywhere in any conditions. There are no bad conditions, just wrong machinery.

[dimviii]

Ambulance has to get there in any conditions. My friend is ambulance driver and he never understand why all people want to excuse bad conditions with the possibility that ambulance cannot get there. They are trained to get everywhere in any conditions. There are no bad conditions, just wrong machinery.

He is trained to drive with an ambulance in 40cm mud? How fast he can go to a bleeding crew?
Be sure that in a uphill with 2wd and no mud tyres in ambulance, is not going to reach the ''target'' even in 2 hours.
You don t risk in safety at these conditions.Our sport doesn t deserve to be at tabloids at first page because it was obvious to cancel the rally,to preserve a disaster.

[bluuford]

Then you have backup helicopter or rescue vehicle, remember, they are prepared to anything can happen at any time in their district.

[J4MIE]

Jamie, which bit of Carron Valley should I head for do you think? The East carpark or the West? :)

Definitely West, lots of bends to go to, very muddy though. It is £20 per car if you didn't know...

I was gutted to hear the last stage was cancelled, but I can understand why. The rain had been falling most of the afternoon, there was heavy thick fog and was already very rough.

[dimviii]

Then you have backup helicopter or rescue vehicle, remember, they are prepared to anything can happen at any time in their district.

helicopters crew are not trained to save a crew from a wrecked car 20 meters down the road while raining heavily.Rescue vehicles must reach the point.This is not easily in some conditions.Organizers haven t got pleasure to cancell the stage with no reason.It is not going to save them money,or to gain glory.
Plenty of moments that an ambulance couldn t reach the injured crew from spectators cars,or bad weather conditions.

[J4MIE]

Also remember that the rescue crews here are volunteers and pay for their own vehicles and equipment. Helicopter is not an option.

The other thing is that the stage is very fast with huge drops off the side. It is not a stage to be messed with.

[Jordib]

helicopters crew are not trained to save a crew from a wrecked car 20 meters down the road while raining heavily.Rescue vehicles must reach the point.This is not easily in some conditions.Organizers haven t got pleasure to cancell the stage with no reason.It is not going to save them money,or to gain glory.
Plenty of moments that an ambulance couldn t reach the injured crew from spectators cars,or bad weather conditions.

I understand the reasons to cancel the stage but every time this happens in a rally due to 'bad conditions' i have the feeling of loosing the main spirit of rallying: the combination of competition and roughness. I don't remember too many stages cancelled due this reasons in the 80's and 90's but obviously the times are changing and also our sport does.

[6789]

PG Andersson had a sticking throttle in the first stage of the day "I don't give a s h i t anymore" lol

[J4MIE]

I am in Loch Chon.stage and must have the best view of the whole rally, I have a MASSIVE smile on my face just now :D :bounce: Not another person around, can see the cars for about 2km+ with scary drops!

[Hartusvuori]

Sandell in trouble. Two punctures, one spare, probs with brakes, not sure if can continue. Hit something at the flying finish.

[Barreis]

Kopecky didn't show much this weekend.

[6789]

Kopecky didn't show much this weekend.
He's into 5th, so he will add some more points to the championship.

[Hartusvuori]

Bogie propably out. Went slightly wide on SS11 and damaged rear.

[Hartusvuori]

PG Andersson had a sticking throttle in the first stage of the day "I don't give a s h i t anymore" lol

PGA stopped. Tough midday for Swedes. Tough stage this SS11.

Breen: "We have problem with the engine. We're not running on all four. I hope to God we can fix it."

[6789]

PGA stopped. Tough midday for Swedes. Tough stage this SS11.
Yeah bit of a shame, Kopecky has moved up to 5th just with other drivers crashing and having problems

[Hartusvuori]

Star of the SS11 is absolutely Nikara. Very impressing time with Evo IX. Hopefully he didn't damage suspension too much.

[6789]

Star of the SS11 is absolutely Nikara. Very impressing time with Evo IX. Hopefully he didn't damage suspension too much.
IRC timing is incorrect, it says Bryan Bouffier was 2 minutes quicker than Juho on the last stage!! lol

[Hartusvuori]

IRC timing is incorrect, it says Bryan Bouffier was 2 minutes quicker than Juho on the last stage!! lol

It's corrected now. Juho took 20s off from Andreas. Andreas is driving and acting totally professional, very calm.

[6789]

It's corrected now. Juho took 20s off from Andreas. Andreas is driving and acting totally professional, very calm.

Yeah cool. I think Andreas will need to get a bit of a move on for the afternoon, doesn't wantto drop another 20secs. Hope he can get the win but

[bluuford]

PGA stopped. Tough midday for Swedes. Tough stage this SS11.

Breen: "We have problem with the engine. We're not running on all four. I hope to God we can fix it."

Breens front grill was full of mud (probably some too big cuts), I wonder it was the problem for engine..overheating.

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone been getting the eurosportplayer to work? The next live stage is only on there i believe.

[hari]

Anyone been getting the eurosportplayer to work? The next live stage is only on there i believe.

Eurosportplayer is working fine

[Mirek]

Strange that drivers who used SupeRally are still in the overall results (right colom), as example Robert Barrable. That wasn't the case in other IRC events this year and also not in this rally last year.

In IRC it has been always up to organizers whether thy use SupeRally or not. I think Rally Russia was one of those who had it in IRC past seasons.

[Sulland]

Mikkelsen/Fløene has to go one notch up on the speed, Hanninen starts to smell a victory !

But Andreas and Ola deserve this one !

Why did PG have to stop?

[Hartusvuori]

The rally continues.

[bluuford]

Maybe the IRC player is under the name IRC France Tour Corse.. currently it is showing helicopter cam and it looks like Scotland :-)

[focus206]

But you have to register to watch the streaming on the Eurosport player?

[Hartusvuori]

Bouffier with brakes problem. Will Kopecky get handed yet another position?

Mikkelsen in total control. Hope he makes it.

[Mirek]

IRC Scotland en live | RTBF (http://www.rtbf.be/livecenter/live_irc-scotland?id=25723)
Working stream

[Hartusvuori]

Nikara in troubles. D'oh... EDIT: In the ditch. Retired. Hitto.

[J4MIE]

Kopecky looked most impressive on that run, very commited. Extremely rough, not looking forward to driving out of here....

[N.O.T]

This is the short of coverage WRC should have instead of he eternal Blah Blah from the radio people.

Mikkelsen should win if he doesn't do anything stupid or the car breaks down.

Hannine now climbs 2nd to the championship table and 1 gravel event to go :)