View Full Version : Rally Grouping??
SPARTAN196
11th September 2011, 22:38
Hi,
I am building a 1.7 engined rally car. Simply for the fun of it... However i have considered actually rallying it.
My question is, what grouping would a 1.7 engined car go into and what specification requirements does it require for that group?
I know it must say somewhere in the fia regs but seriously... i must have tried umpteen times to find and read the relevant sections but thats like reading tax laws.... Nuts and bolts yes... not books. http://forum.fdmc.org.uk/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Cheers
Allyc85
12th September 2011, 15:55
What make and model is it?
Fwd, rwd, 4wd?
8 valve, 16 valve?
And what championship do you want to compete in?
:)
SPARTAN196
13th September 2011, 10:23
Ford Racing Puma 1.7 FWD 16v
And ive found out its B11.
This forum is very quiet.....
mm1
13th September 2011, 10:59
No it isn`t, if you ask a question, you should at least tell which country you intend to compete in...
SPARTAN196
13th September 2011, 12:06
Since this is in the british rally section i thought that would have been a clue... so just for your own piece of mind..... Britian.
And I got the information from Chris Birkbeck who is well known for the Ford Puma's and someone from london who competes with the same car. I think they know what they compete in.
mm1
13th September 2011, 13:42
Sorry, my bad :)
Allyc85
13th September 2011, 15:38
Ford Racing Puma 1.7 FWD 16v
And ive found out its B11.
This forum is very quiet.....
its quality, not quantity lol ;)
Are you going to be doing tarmac or gravel? Would love to see some pics of your build :D
SPARTAN196
13th September 2011, 17:09
Gravel stage rally.
Just started pulling everything out before its all seam welded and reinforced.
Martin Liddle
14th September 2011, 11:54
And ive found out its B11.
You need to be aware that classes vary from event to event (events within major championships usually all run to the championship classes). Eg in the BTRDA Gold/Silver Star series you would be B11 but in the MSA English championship E4 or E5 and the Scottish Championship class 5, 7 or 8 depending on number of valves and drive configuration. there was an attempt to standardise this some years ago but that initiative seems to have died.
FAL
14th September 2011, 22:47
The use of "B" classes, that grew up in UK non-Internationals, was irritating because it started when the only other categories used were the International GpA and N.
B in the UK club/national context was a "catch all" category for all non-GpA and N cars and was nothing to do with GpB, despite the clear implication, from association, that it was.
Almost designed to confuse and God help the historians in future years. As misleading as the wildly inaccurate use of the term "Gp4" in so many cases.
Martin Liddle
15th September 2011, 21:41
B in the UK club/national context was a "catch all" category for all non-GpA and N cars and was nothing to do with GpB, despite the clear implication, from association, that it was.
Not sure why you use the past tense; BTRDA and MSA Asphalt still have B classes.
FAL
15th September 2011, 22:46
Not sure why you use the past tense; BTRDA and MSA Asphalt still have B classes.
?
It "grew up" in the past, as posted, and was originally the alternative to GpA and N in the past when they were the only International categories. They aren't now and there has since been a plethora of other categories or sub-categories. Whether past or present, the use of "B" in a non-International context was a stupid choice that will confuse the hell out of future historians.
Having followed a former car of mine (in vastly different spec) winning BTRDA B12 classes on events in recent years with its current owner, I am aware the silly description is still in use...
Bolton Midnight
24th September 2011, 03:34
You'll be whupped by the 2 litre boys, flog it and go and do something like 205 Challenge or F1000 instead, will be cheaper and you'll learn more.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.2 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.