Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

[bretddog]

You are right they should have been mirroring the Mini choices as that is the real competition for them on this event.
For sure this would be the sensible approach. Specially since Petter seemed to have reasonable control on Sordo, matching his times in "safe-mode".

[N.O.T]

You are right they should have been mirroring the Mini choices as that is the real competition for them on this event.

Thats what professional teams do, not teams that have as a main goal to sponsor the bosses son to disgrace the sport.

[Mintexmemory]

Is Louise ever going to finish this stage? Or has she stopped to buy some groceries in one of the villages?
I make it that she's only about 40 mins behind her only competitor for the 'Ladies Cup'. She will still get 18 PWRC points!!!

[Mintexmemory]

Thats what professional teams do, not teams that have as a main goal to sponsor the bosses son to disgrace the sport.
ALERT ALERT _ Attempt to raise Matthew Wilson criticism at an inappropriate point - Take 2 'TROLL' points and stand in the corner.

[Crocone]

If main goal for Ford is to get points, why the tyre gamble?

I don't know about the other Ford drivers but for Petter sittuation was quite simple. He didn't had too mutch to loose. And as you can see he lost just the second place. But if he would made a good tyre choice then he could enter in the battle for victory. It's just a simply mathemathical choice. He risked three points for winning seven. I THINK.

[bretddog]

I don't know about the other Ford drivers but for Petter sittuation was quite simple. He didn't had too mutch to loose. And as you can see he lost just the second place. But if he would made a good tyre choice then he could enter in the battle for victory. It's just a simply mathemathical choice. He risked three points for winning seven. I THINK.

This is the problem.. It's a SIMPLE mathematical calculation. And not the way you should apply mathematics at all. It's nothing more than a high probability bet to get the negative outcome.

[Rallyper]

A quarter of an hour differenses between first and 10 th car.

[Crocone]

This is the problem.. It's a SIMPLE mathematical calculation. And not the way you should apply mathematics at all. It's nothing more than a high probability bet to get the negative outcome.

Yeah you're right. But I think that this was a opportunity to risk for a good result. No one knows if there will be another posibility to risk something.

[Red bull]

Sebastien Ogier's co-driver Julien Ingrassia sure he will be fit for Sweden despite Monte Carlo crash - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97117)





World Rally Championship's superally system should be dropped, says FIA president Jean Todt - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97113)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cant believe Solberg lost so much time after winning SS11, ridiculous tyre decision :(

[MR666]

World Rally Championship's superally system should be dropped, says FIA president Jean Todt - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97113)

Last year's World Rally Championship would have been won by Mikko Hirvonen and not Sebastien Loeb if Rally 2 had not been in place.

[Langdale Forest]

Last year's World Rally Championship would have been won by Mikko Hirvonen and not Sebastien Loeb if Rally 2 had not been in place.

But that would probably be because of Latvala slowing for him on 3 consecutive rallies.

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Hirvonen will take 3rd place during today and tomorrow's stages :bounce:

[Mintexmemory]

Last year's World Rally Championship would have been won by Mikko Hirvonen and not Sebastien Loeb if Rally 2 had not been in place.

Actually if you follow the principle of multiple causality then all you can deduce from no SR last year is that Loeb would probably have had less points. Other drivers, not having to counter Loeb's pace, would have driven different rallies. Citroen would have got behind Ogier in a more supportive fashion. Petter would have had a better ECU and JML would have been more of a contender and less likely to surrender leads to MH. Change one thing and the whole pack of cards is up in the air!

[JAM]

But it is irrelivant, his 5 year plan ended last year and there is obvousley no hope for him.

I am sure he is now on a 10 year plan.


Wrong. He will have a plan as long has MSport work with Ford. For now is a 7 year plan, until the end of 2013 :p :

It's interesting to see that in 2007 i was almost the only one critic about Matthew dowing WRC with his father's team, and on this forum i had a lot of people asking if i had something against the guy.
But ok, now almost everyboy understood the message. It took time, but is better latter than never he he

[Allyc85]

ALERT ALERT _ Attempt to raise Matthew Wilson criticism at an inappropriate point - Take 2 'TROLL' points and stand in the corner.

I was thinking clown, but Troll will do!

Did you get my email about the Acropolis rally in May?

[JAM]

Finally somebody understants what he see

He see the same that Ford saw on the first two stages of the rally.

Loeb won 22s to Latvala on 1st stage, and Latvala won 52s to Loeb on the 2nd stage.

[Ctdprep]

World Rally Championship's superally system should be dropped, says FIA president Jean Todt - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97113)

I don't think it should be dropped, put the ability to score points should be. It would be a bit unfair, to travel to events, spend all that money and then for a small thing, be it mechanical or an off road excursion rule you out for the rest of the weekend. For sponsors and for the sport it makes sense to let them repair the cars and get out the next day.

However, from a competition point of view, if your use superrally, you shouldn't be capable of scoring points at all.

Simple solution...

[danon]

Monte Carlo Rally admits 2012's five-day duration was a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97112)

[Allyc85]

I don't think it should be dropped, put the ability to score points should be. It would be a bit unfair, to travel to events, spend all that money and then for a small thing, be it mechanical or an off road excursion rule you out for the rest of the weekend. For sponsors and for the sport it makes sense to let them repair the cars and get out the next day.

However, from a competition point of view, if your use superrally, you shouldn't be capable of scoring points at all.

Simple solution...

Agreed :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

We never had 'Superally' years ago... when you went off you were out and that was it.

I never understood why it was brought in.

[Tom206wrc]

Next stage is on :cool:

[Karukera]

Actually if you follow the principle of multiple causality then all you can deduce from no SR last year is that Loeb would probably have had less points. Other drivers, not having to counter Loeb's pace, would have driven different rallies. Citroen would have got behind Ogier in a more supportive fashion. Petter would have had a better ECU and JML would have been more of a contender and less likely to surrender leads to MH. Change one thing and the whole pack of cards is up in the air!

That's a nice load of "if" bs.

IF the Red planet had a bigger metal core we would be rallying now in the amazing canyons of Valles Marineris.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Monte Carlo Rally admits 2012's five-day duration was a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97112)

They could have done Power Stage on Sunday still but had a 4 day rally with 2 stages +1 (Power Stage) on Sunday and how it's set up now, sans 1 day.. :)

I've enjoyed following but the time difference sucks! hah

[dimviii]

He see the same that Ford saw on the first two stages of the rally.

Loeb won 22s to Latvala on 1st stage, and Latvala won 52s to Loeb on the 2nd stage.

totally diferent situation to compare ss No1&2 when you have 4 days to erase your wrong tyre choice,with the only fiesta you have in rally at 3rd day which must collect your only points.
Ford have history with wrong tyre choices.It is not something new.

[52Paddy]

Monte Carlo Rally admits 2012's five-day duration was a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97112)

Does anybody know if Michel Ferry plays the violin? There is a Michel Ferry from France (not sure where) who plays the fiddle in an Irish style and is well known as a composer in traditional music circles. I wonder could it be the same guy. Sorry to go off-topic. It just caught my eye :p :

[GigiGalliNo1]

hahahahahaha

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb finished

[janvanvurpa]

We never had 'Superally' years ago... when you went off you were out and that was it.

I never understood why it was brought in.


Probably because a new generation of drivers and fans have grown up playing everything with a big fat red RESET button just a click away.
And so any mistake, BAM! Resent.

[Langdale Forest]

Petter smashed a wheel.

[René]

Front left puncture for petter

[danon]

Does anybody know if Michel Ferry plays the violin? There is a Michel Ferry from France (not sure where) who plays the fiddle in an Irish style and is well known as a composer in traditional music circles. I wonder could it be the same guy. Sorry to go off-topic. It just caught my eye :p :

MICHEL FERRY (http://www.rallymontecarlo.com/club/index.php?page=intemp/mf_directeur_course.php&lng=en)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikko could take 3rd after Petters problems ??

[jd_89]

Hivonen 2.9sec better than Loeb.

[janvanvurpa]

Monte Carlo Rally admits 2012's five-day duration was a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97112)

But is that the biggest mistake?
Regardez:
FIA president Jean Todt, a firm advocate of longer rallies, said the length of events needed further debate.

"The Monte Carlo Historic Rally has 320 entries," said Todt. "It starts in two weeks and still with the concentration part. Last year, some started from Marrakech, some from Stockholm and if you speak with some people they say it was outstanding to have this concentration [run to the actual start of the event] which was lasting two, three or four days.

"And now if we have the [WRC] rally which is lasting more than three days then some people complain. We have to figure out which is the best option. We will move in the best direction, but we will do this by allowing each rally to have its own soul."

A little emphasis for the points seemingly lost..
80 something cars vs 320.....which do you think is a bigger event?

[dimviii]

Front left puncture for petter

at first day he had also a broken rim as i saw in a photo from here.Was front right

[René]

Another good time for Novikov ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Petter didnt lose too much as puncture/wheel damage was near the end of SS13...

Still 24sec lead over Mikko...


Pos Pilote / Pilot Voiture / Car N° Temps / Time Ecart / Diff. Pénalité / Penalty
01 LOEB Sébastien (FRA) CITROEN DS 3 WRC 13:31:25:200--:--:----:--:--
02 SORDO CASTILLO Daniel (ESP) MINI COOPER WRC 373:33:37:600+0:02:12:400--:--:--
03 SOLBERG Petter (NOR) FORD FIESTA WRC 43:34:44:400+0:03:19:200--:--:--
04 HIRVONEN Mikko (FIN) CITROEN DS 3 WRC 23:35:08:200+0:03:43:000--:--:--
05 NOVIKOV Evgeny (RUS) FORD FIESTA WRC 63:35:53:400+0:04:28:200--:--:--
06 DELECOUR François (FRA) FORD FIESTA WRC 83:38:04:300+0:06:39:100--:--:--

[pettersolberg29]

Another good time for Novikov ;)

He's been in the top 5 in every stage since SS7, with a few 3rd fastest times. Really impressed by him.

[Langdale Forest]

Is the WRC ponts system same as last year including the power stage?

[Red bull]

Mikko could take 3rd after Petters problems ??

Petter will defend his 3rd position at all costs,he cant afford to stay off the podium.

[Josti]

Monte Carlo Rally admits 2012's five-day duration was a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97112)

I don't get this. The Monte was always flooded by amateur entries, except when they changed to a cloverleaf format, when the event barely managed 50 entries every year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Explanation of SS12 for Petter:

“We tried the best we could. On the first stage there was no problem but the second stage was full of water from the start and there was big aquaplaning so we really backed off. Then there was more water and full ice in the forest - we didn’t have a good feeling and we didn’t want to end up in the ditch. Of course we’re still battling and we need to make a better choice next time.”


Patterson said: “We really struggled on the last stage, especially on the ice on the downhill [section]. We had a spin at less than 3kph and a stall but we’re still here and we’re still fighting. There’s a long way to go so we won’t give up.”


Ford team chief Malcolm Wilson added: “Stage 11 worked really well for us, but on stage 12, the conditions had deteriorated quite a lot since the [safety] crews had gone through it. Petter had a huge moment very early on, resulting in a 100-metre slide - as similarly happened to some other drivers - and after that, he sensibly decided to just get through to the end of the stage. He wanted to protect his podium rather than risk anything rash. Going forward, stage 13 this afternoon is likely to have rain, and of course we've still got the famous passes through the Col de Turini to go, so I very much believe anything can still happen."

[Josti]

Is the WRC ponts system same as last year including the power stage?

Yes.

[N.O.T]

Lets see if Hirvonen has anything left for the 4th day....plenty of Kms to go.

[dimviii]

Μaurin moments
SAM 0598 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/embed/JLn6g7bXa3E)

[dimviii]

Sordos from another angle
SAM 0587 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/embed/7tNhgekQYhk)

[Barreis]

Must say it's boring rally. Too much free space.

[kobefly]

Today's winner is definitely Sordo. Second place battle is almost over, he just needs to drive safe for the reminder of the rally to have an excellent season start.

[spiderem]

has mikko found a new gear???
or is it just a good choice of tire?
or are loeb and sordo starting to slow down to ensure the final podium as the gaps are huge now?

[sp0+]

It is clear that Loeb, as usual, has slowed down a little bit, which is a smart thing to do, especially in such weather condition and with such a time difference.

That's why Hirvonen is now equally fast, baring in mind that he has something to prove and he has to be on the charge....

[tolis]

Nice video-nice atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah29DHNK4zk
Also Day 3 highlights: Monte Carlo: résumé Jour 3 - WRC Monte Carlo - RTBF Vidéo (http://www.rtbf.be/video/v_monte-carlo-resume-jour-3?id=1572343&category=sport)

[Tom206wrc]

I definitely hope Hirvonen will take that 3rd place tomorrow :bounce:

[Jajá]

Jajá, I am sorry but I think that it can not be expected anything much better from Paulo.
Unfortunately, the Brazileans who get to the WRC are not the best ones, I am sure there are much better ones.
For example, Rafael Tulio is way much faster and reliable, but he never had afast car to show his skills.

Totally agreed, ZequeArgentina! Nobre is there just because he has the budget to do so. Rafael Tulio, Ulysses Bertholdo, Edio Fuchter, Luis Tedesco, Guilherme Spinelli, all of them are way much better than Nobre, but the are budget-less. And due to that I say I'm impressed that Nobre got so far with no issues.

BTW, looking forward to go to Argentina this year... Do you know whether the monster stage "El Durazno-Ambul" (or vice-versa) has accessible spectator sports?

[JAM]

totally diferent situation to compare ss No1&2 when you have 4 days to erase your wrong tyre choice,with the only fiesta you have in rally at 3rd day which must collect your only points.
Ford have history with wrong tyre choices.It is not something new.

Different why? These were the only two situations where someone clearly made a wrong choice with important handicap in terms of time.

One time mistake from Citroen, the other time mistake from Ford. 1-1 is the result in terms of mistakes. Nothing seriously important.

I'm talking about this Monte Carlo only.

[JAM]

A little emphasis for the points seemingly lost..
80 something cars vs 320.....which do you think is a bigger event?

Jean Todt made a strange comparison. Compare a WRC rally and a Historic Rally is looking to two completely different events. The drivers and teams from WRC and Historic are completely differente, the teams, even the costs are completely different.

To start a discussion, the majority of historic drivers are people in the 50's and 60's with a lot of money and usually retired from work. By other words, the do the rally with one week, or teo or three week... Usually time spent is not a big problem to them. The amateur drivers that go to a WRC event, the ones that made the entry lists have 100 or 120 entreis, usually are not professional drivers and have limited time as well has limited budgets.

The budget is also a problem. One more day on a WRC rally is much more expensive that one more day on a Historic rally.

To create a longer rally to have 3 stages per day is a strange option. Would be better a day less and two mores stages per day IMO.

[Mise]

Different why? These were the only two situations where someone clearly made a wrong choice with important handicap in terms of time.

One time mistake from Citroen, the other time mistake from Ford. 1-1 is the result in terms of mistakes. Nothing seriously important.

I'm talking about this Monte Carlo only.

Actually Citroen didn't make a mistake. They just didn't want to use super soft tyres too much,
cos they were only 3 (?) sets of them and it is a five day rally.

[mousti]

Jean Todt made a strange comparison. Compare a WRC rally and a Historic Rally is looking to two completely different events. The drivers and teams from WRC and Historic are completely differente, the teams, even the costs are completely different.

To start a discussion, the majority of historic drivers are people in the 50's and 60's with a lot of money and usually retired from work. By other words, the do the rally with one week, or teo or three week... Usually time spent is not a big problem to them. The amateur drivers that go to a WRC event, the ones that made the entry lists have 100 or 120 entreis, usually are not professional drivers and have limited time as well has limited budgets.

The budget is also a problem. One more day on a WRC rally is much more expensive that one more day on a Historic rally.

To create a longer rally to have 3 stages per day is a strange option. Would be better a day less and two mores stages per day IMO.
Budget of the car is way much higher than the car who got drivin in the Historic rally. It are not competition cars who drive there it's a regularity rally.

[Ghosty!]

Cant believe Solberg lost so much time after winning SS11, ridiculous tyre decision :(

i know ya pity :(

[Fri]

pictures from yesterday:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012 (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/04_fri_csutortok/index.htm)

[dimviii]

Different why? These were the only two situations where someone clearly made a wrong choice with important handicap in terms of time.

One time mistake from Citroen, the other time mistake from Ford. 1-1 is the result in terms of mistakes. Nothing seriously important.

I'm talking about this Monte Carlo only.

read again my post.
Points are not given by 1-1 mistakes,but by time they lost/gain.

[MR666]

Did the Monte really have to be 5 days long, not that I would call a single stage in a day really a day. The number of stages a day is draging it out.

[SubaruNorway]

Did the Monte really have to be 5 days long, not that I would call a single stage in a day really a day. The number of stages a day is draging it out.

It's defenitely not good for work spending three days mostly on the pc or listening to stage ends :p

[Wasted Talent]

Who is preparing the Proton,s as they are Yorkshire registered?
I can fully understand the problem , that Loeb,makes all the others look silly,but he does have accidents occasionally,and its OPEN to all drivers with an International Competition Licence

Mellors Elliott Motorsport, Bakewell near Sheffield

WT

[Gregor-y]

Did the Monte really have to be 5 days long, not that I would call a single stage in a day really a day. The number of stages a day is dragging it out.
Indeed. When I hear 'five day rally' I think of the RAC from 20 years ago. And to be honest I'd like to see a few events like that; part of the unique 'soul' Todt was was talking about.

[bluuford]

I just looked that there was 0 retirements today. Has it happened before.. in Monte? Anywhere? And it seems that the maximum number of cars allowed to pass Turini is almost exactly matched! (only first 60 cars are allowed to start and there are 59 left :-))

[montagni]

Indeed. When I hear 'five day rally' I think of the RAC from 20 years ago. And to be honest I'd like to see a few events like that; part of the unique 'soul' Todt was was talking about.

I was lucky to compete on the 1981 RAC (Rally GB) we started in Chester on the Saturday morning. Ist major stop was on Sunday night after Lake District and Kielder stages. Hafren forest stage in wales was 50ks long and run at 3.00am. That was a 5 day event.

[Wim_Impreza]

For sure the people who said there were only 10 or 15 cars left at the finish, didn't have it good.

Maybe now more people will realise that no SupeRally is a good idea as there are much cars left into the final stages of the rally.

[Barreis]

When is Eurosport coverage tonight?

[bluuford]

When is Eurosport coverage tonight?
in 95 Minutes

[danon]

Maybe now more people will realise that no SupeRally is a good idea as there are much cars left into the final stages of the rally.

It would have been a totally different story with snow on the stages. :D

[rallye-sport]

Update Day 3 Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_8297.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/mg_8706.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

Any chance of ice or snow tomorrow?

[bluuford]

Any chance of ice or snow tomorrow?
No, Summer arrives tomorrow.

[A.F.F.]

Any of you think Mikko can catch Petter tomorrow?

The biggest suprise for me is that Novikov is still up and running ??? :eek:

[Barreis]

The biggest surprise for me is Delacour, 2 second fastest stage times ina rally so far.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=973&fseason=2012http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_af6ab3faf3.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_f428297d06.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_23acf251bf.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_f95e30abf1.jpg


More photos from DAY 3 HERE (http://www.motorsportforums.com/www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=973&fseason=2012)

[N.O.T]

For sure the people who said there were only 10 or 15 cars left at the finish, didn't have it good.

Maybe now more people will realise that no SupeRally is a good idea as there are much cars left into the final stages of the rally.

LOL

you draw that conclusion from 1 TARMAC event.... good job

[dimviii]

Nice video with moment of Bouffier
Monte-Carlo 2012 after day 3 Impact-rallye vidéo - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnusdh_monte-carlo-2012-after-day-3-impact-rallye-video_auto)

[dimviii]

PGA spin
https://www.youtube.com/embed/CW7PoRVD_ac


rain ss12
https://www.youtube.com/embed/I1kVMCNStfU

Campana u turn
https://www.youtube.com/embed/2I1Jrqumolo

[dimviii]

Ogiers exit from another camera
https://www.youtube.com/embed/NkVpVhZWJWk

[tolis]

Now highlights here: Eurosport em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)

[zajic]

Photos from the rainy and sunny third leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=974&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fauthor=&ftxt=)
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_c079a83fd6.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_bc97f7c88a.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_3bb030bfb8.jpg

[N.O.T]

Todays coverage was very nice, ES are starting to take control... the ususal ES commentator is back :D and the footage were also nicer...

[ZequeArgentina]

Totally agreed, ZequeArgentina! Nobre is there just because he has the budget to do so. Rafael Tulio, Ulysses Bertholdo, Edio Fuchter, Luis Tedesco, Guilherme Spinelli, all of them are way much better than Nobre, but the are budget-less. And due to that I say I'm impressed that Nobre got so far with no issues.

BTW, looking forward to go to Argentina this year... Do you know whether the monster stage "El Durazno-Ambul" (or vice-versa) has accessible spectator sports?

From the ones you mention Iwould say Tulio.
Futcher was good, but how old is him?

I will let you know by private message about El Durazno stage, let me check this year lenght.

[mousti]

What I understand is that Ellegy formerly know as Cricketsfilm is doing a part of the coverage of Eurosport or maybe almost eveything that I don't know. But I know he's working now very close with Eurosport!

[dimviii]

Neuvilles & Merksteijns exits
https://www.youtube.com/embed/fancsWAVbh0

[Langdale Forest]

Is there any live online coverage of the power stage on Sunday?

[rallyfiend]

Is there any live online coverage of the power stage on Sunday?

There's no coverage at all.

[Mirek]

But is that the biggest mistake?
Regardez:
FIA president Jean Todt, a firm advocate of longer rallies, said the length of events needed further debate.

"The Monte Carlo Historic Rally has 320 entries," said Todt. "It starts in two weeks and still with the concentration part. Last year, some started from Marrakech, some from Stockholm and if you speak with some people they say it was outstanding to have this concentration [run to the actual start of the event] which was lasting two, three or four days.

"And now if we have the [WRC] rally which is lasting more than three days then some people complain. We have to figure out which is the best option. We will move in the best direction, but we will do this by allowing each rally to have its own soul."

A little emphasis for the points seemingly lost..
80 something cars vs 320.....which do you think is a bigger event?

Last year in IRC there were actually 300+ entries also but ACM didn't expect that when they created timetable and service zones so they accepted only some 120. Of course part of the reason was no entry fee for a 100 year anniversary of RMC but still...

[Mirek]

Ford team chief Malcolm Wilson added: “Stage 11 worked really well for us, but on stage 12, the conditions had deteriorated quite a lot since the [safety] crews had gone through it. Petter had a huge moment very early on, resulting in a 100-metre slide - as similarly happened to some other drivers - and after that, he sensibly decided to just get through to the end of the stage. He wanted to protect his podium rather than risk anything rash. Going forward, stage 13 this afternoon is likely to have rain, and of course we've still got the famous passes through the Col de Turini to go, so I very much believe anything can still happen."

That is not true from what I saw at the last part of SS12.

[danon]

Nothing wrong with the duration of the rally.
Just what happend prior to the event had those negative
impact as a whole (no live coverage), and the weather itself.
An impact , that could be well ignored if part of the stages were snow-covered.
Picture it.

[danon]

That is not true from what I saw at the last part of SS12.

And you saw what?

[Mirek]

So what to say about today...

SS12 some 7 km before finish (cca 1 km after they go to small road). That was the craziest conditions I ever saw in any rally! There was a thick layer of ice with ruts and rain was falling down on that, so water flew in ruts and the top ice was so slippery that people were crashing there while walking (and I'm absolutely sure it was like that when ice crews were going through). As a result it was quite terrible to watch, all 4WD except few did it very slowly in ruts without any sliding. 2WD were mostly more spectacular. Petter had some small off or spin few corners before us. We could hear that. This was for sure much more exciting to follow on internet results than live.

SS13 a hairpin just after Laborel. Not much to say, nice spot to watch but a place which actually says nothing about performance.

Our video will be online hopefully later tonight.

[danon]

In those poor times with no live broadcasts,
live comments are another way to get the feeling of the atmosphere around the stage.
Priceless.

[danon]

If more people are able to write up real-time experiences
that would be something like a live-text broadcast for nowdays
and a history book for times to come.
I'll publish the e-book.
Patented! :D

[tfp]

If more people are able to write up real-time experiences
that would be something like a live-text broadcast for nowdays
and a history book for times to come.
I'll publish the e-book.
Patented! :D

Maybe you and Hartsuvuori could write an e-book, he spoke of writing a book about famous stages a while ago! :)

[PLuto]

So what to say about today...

SS12 some 7 km before finish (cca 1 km after they go to small road). That was the craziest conditions I ever saw in any rally! There was a thick layer of ice with ruts and rain was falling down on that, so water flew in ruts and the top ice was so slippery that people were crashing there while walking (and I'm absolutely sure it was like that when ice crews were going through). As a result it was quite terrible to watch, all 4WD except few did it very slowly in ruts without any sliding. 2WD were mostly more spectacular. Petter had some small off or spin few corners before us. We could hear that. This was for sure much more exciting to follow on internet results than live.

SS13 a hairpin just after Laborel. Not much to say, nice spot to watch but a place which actually says nothing about performance.

Our video will be online hopefully later tonight.

On SS 12 I was few hundred metres later than Mirek. I was in a corner which was full of ice. All WRC cars were driving really slowly, lot of 2WD cars were faster in this passage (I was making own timing). From WRC only Prokop and surprisingly Nobre were spectacular. But other drivers were much more interesting - Andersson, both Burri's, Melicharek, Fontaine, Robert, Chardonnet...

[danon]

Bad and good tire choice and the feelings alone are big factors.
Good job, Pluto. :up:

[danon]

While watching a video I noticed a drawback
about the duration of Rally Monte Carlo 2012.
Can you imagine what will those superstitious
among the pilots will look like in five days not touching a razor blade, no shave at all... :D

[bt52b]

While watching a video I noticed a drawback
about the duration of Rally Monte Carlo 2012.
Can you imagine what will those superstitious
among the pilots will look like in five days not touching a razor blade, no shave at all... :D

Don't start, that FIA nut will report Loeb again

[PLuto]

Some photos of Roman Kasparek from third leg - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13277)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/3adab52034cf4c522e06d586ed11b9b0.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/0d891b78cd3e035850151b09e28bcd74.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/9101408788cdaec94ac8299d9a5e23fa.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a9f741bd8d816cb167d4ec74d16087e1.jpg

[danon]

Maybe you and Hartsuvuori could write an e-book, he spoke of writing a book about famous stages a while ago! :)

As each rally is recorded and broadcasted live on TV,
why not to apply this very same idea to a Rallye-book
but created by spectators (not pros) texted (on-air) live from the stages.
Archive a copy of it for the history and one day it will make a bestseller.
We'll need an editor though. And someone to get all the bits and peaces assembled together.

Patented! :burnout:

[danon]

Anyway, it was just another idea,
but I'm pretty sure that it's a matter
of time for someone to steal my thunder.

[janvanvurpa]

[quote]Jean Todt made a strange comparison. Compare a WRC rally and a Historic Rally is looking to two completely different events. The drivers and teams from WRC and Historic are completely differente, the teams, even the costs are completely different.


We are all aware they are 2 different events even if one is called a "bigger event" because of its WRC status .....but they are similar roads and conditions, similar format of stages and transits...
Rather than focus on the little differences, look at the similarities and think what is the reason why 350 crews--whatever their age and background, cough up quite high entry and expenses, insane costs to build FIA Historic cars mostly on their on dime.....
And barely 1/4 that can be motivated enough to scare up the money and a legal car for the "WRC"?

I say the missing element is the sense of a huge adventure. The old format of the Concentration run from all points of Europe in the middle of Winter built excitment---when conditions were bad as they could be when crews started in Oslo or Moskva, or Warsawa, just getting to Monte Carlo could be an adventure.
THEN the Great stages added to it.
Now the event, almost all with just 300 or maye 350km SS are like sprints and unless they are televised it seems only a small group of people WANT TO do the event---since all but maybe 6-7 guys know they have no chance of winning..
The Historic Monte, 350 want to do it and ALL of them know there is no Team Manager waiting at the final MTC with a contract.

They do it for the adventure...

To start a discussion, the majority of historic drivers are people in the 50's and 60's with a lot of money and usually retired from work. By other words, the do the rally with one week, or teo or three week... Usually time spent is not a big problem to them. The amateur drivers that go to a WRC event, the ones that made the entry lists have 100 or 120 entreis, usually are not professional drivers and have limited time as well has limited budgets.


I have been in that position. My choice was to not worry about Worlds Champignonskit, it is only about glory and i was not that good. My choice was to do events which paid good start money---and for me, were BIG ADVENTURES....



The budget is also a problem. One more day on a WRC rally is much more expensive that one more day on a Historic rally.

Of course, except the hotels and the food and the fuel for the service vehicle costs more or less the same


To create a longer rally to have 3 stages per day is a strange option. Would be better a day less and two mores stages per day IMO.[/quote:2jbsy238]

Yes I am puzzled about the shortness of SS done in "whole days", but it seems staying up past 10 is at night is asking too much of these "Super stars"..
Only God knows how much damage I must have done driving stages until after sun up in years past....it probably damaged my poor brain because now when I'm older I can't understand a lot of things today....like the Monte's format and low entries...

But I do know in all WRC events, in the same time period that they have become shorter and shorter, and the cars completely divorced from anything anybody, even big enthusiasts drive, and the adventure aspect decreased, so has entries crashed to fractions of what we saw in the 60s and 70s and even the 80s
Of course correlation is not causation and there are other factors at work---all the talk of how much rally needs instnt TV makes me also wonder how they had 350 cars entering in the 60s and 70s when there wasn't instant TV.

[René]

one more video

http://youtu.be/JM_jPKgGBTg

[EavesFan09]

What I understand is that Ellegy formerly know as Cricketsfilm is doing a part of the coverage of Eurosport or maybe almost eveything that I don't know. But I know he's working now very close with Eurosport!

Last night at 10:00pm I was flicking through the telly listings and I saw the WRC on Eurosport. Imagine my delight. Not been able to post on here or show any interest since Dave lost the WRC to ESPN. Now I can kind of get back into it.

Is this a season long coverage?

[Mirek]

Autosport.cz video leg 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0QeLywpCSA&feature=player_embedded

[jolle1982]

Pictures day 3 by rallyefreaks.de online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/day_3_2_01_1327138241.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/day_3_2_12_1327138246.jpg

<<< Fotos Rallye Monte Carlo Day 3>>> (http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=123%3Atag-3&Itemid=2&limitstart=9)

[tolis]

Day 3 Highlights - Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVnTPNU_i_I
Day 3 Highlights - Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hLHd4MuD3w

[gregwrc]

Jean playing .... respect


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjchJzUxjqY

[Red bull]

Day 3 Highlights - Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVnTPNU_i_I
Day 3 Highlights - Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hLHd4MuD3w

Thank you so much,me and my buddies have been eagerly waiting for this :D :D

[tolis]

Thank you so much,me and my buddies have been eagerly waiting for this :D :D
You should say "thanks" to the original uploader, not me. ;)
Less than 3 hours till the action starts.

[milly]

Todays coverage was very nice, ES are starting to take control... the ususal ES commentator is back :D and the footage were also nicer...

Can't agree.

They only had three stages to worry about - wasted 30% of program showing highlights of previous two days. Had the chance to discuss WRC in detail with Jean Todt but that was only 30s or so.

Hardly any coverage of cars on the edge of the top 10 - Andersson's Proton still in top 10, Abbring etc.

No real story about the challenge of the day, no in-depth pieces with team chiefs etc.

Poor interviews, rubbish simulcam as it was on a piece of road that was totally unrepresentative of the major part of the stage.

At least the TV program started on time!!

Poor, poor, poor......

[bluuford]

Well I liked two things.. 1) my favourite commentator. 2)When they were making conclusions about what happened beforehand, they corrected mistakes like Otto Tanak etc. But yeah, unfortunately they didnt had enough footage from the stages.. Maybe we can see some of those today?

[EightGear]

Some news regarding Kuipers:

Kuipers nog niet aan start bij WK-rally's | Auto/motorsport/Autosport | TC Tubantia Sport (http://sport.tctubantia.nl/auto-motorsport/autosport/kuipers-nog-niet-aan-start-bij-wk-rallys)

He is negotioting with with a major sponsor. If that fails, he won't be in WRC this season. He sais it's about 50/50. Mexico and Argentina would be the first two rounds, the rest in Europe.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Sunny and Dry at the Col.

[gregwrc]

New spolier for Evgeny :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Nq8yQFXS0&feature=share

[bt52b]

Some photos of Roman Kasparek from third leg - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13277)


http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/9101408788cdaec94ac8299d9a5e23fa.jpg

Brilliant shot of Delecour

[bluuford]

Sunny and Dry at the Col.
around +10 degrees at finish, +15 in Monaco, summer, like I said already

[Allyc85]

Sunny and Dry at the Col.

Booooo :(

[danon]

The global warming ruined the event. :D

[gregwrc]

I wish we had splits .... :dozey: Col de Turini is on the air ....

[danon]

Snow will do.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Live?

[RS]

Can't agree.

They only had three stages to worry about - wasted 30% of program showing highlights of previous two days. Had the chance to discuss WRC in detail with Jean Todt but that was only 30s or so.

Hardly any coverage of cars on the edge of the top 10 - Andersson's Proton still in top 10, Abbring etc.

No real story about the challenge of the day, no in-depth pieces with team chiefs etc.

Poor interviews, rubbish simulcam as it was on a piece of road that was totally unrepresentative of the major part of the stage.

At least the TV program started on time!!

Poor, poor, poor......

Like NOS would have shown Andersson or Abbring....

Simulcam is a nice tool, light years ahead of virtual spectator.

[kobefly]

Is it on TV for Europe?
If so, which channel?

[RS]

Is it on TV for Europe?
If so, which channel?

Not live. Highlights will be on this evening on Eurosport and Motors TV.

Turini in daylight doesn't seem right after the last few years!

[EightGear]

Is it on TV for Europe?
If so, which channel?

No, unfortunately not.

Loeb finished, new stage record.

[N.O.T]

It was completely dry...

[danon]

Petter sounds quite happy

[ProRally]

Go Mikko !!!!

[RAS007]

No, unfortunately not.

Loeb finished, new stage record.

Petter was faster.....

[RS]

Loeb must be taking it very easy now, Hirvo now fastest.

[danon]

Mikko was fastest

[EightGear]

Petter was faster.....

Yes, but Loeb was the first one to arrive and he was faster than the old stage record from recent years.

[Mise]

2 secs isn't enough.
But is sure is better to gain some and fight than just to cruise to be fourth.

[RS]

Excellent time by Delecour!

[danon]

http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/21/12012102505468416.jpg

[RAS007]

Excellent time by Delecour!

+1

[N.O.T]

I think Hirvonen cannot catch Solberg now by just driving...

It is encouraging he wins stages though, he might be the favourite in Sweden.

[danon]

The atmosphere

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600ea-ced9-bd44.jpg

[milly]

Like NOS would have shown Andersson or Abbring....

Simulcam is a nice tool, light years ahead of virtual spectator.

Don't compare it to North One's coverage - the whole idea is that this is a new opportunity.

[danon]

Live pic

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600df-d068-e393.jpg

[danon]

The atmosphere live

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600c0-d162-0078.jpg

[René]

Nobre sounded quite upset about being told to go away by George Donaldson. :(

[bluuford]

Nobre sounded quite upset about being told to go away by George Donaldson. :(

Bouffier is missing?
Edit.. aah 10th best time.. super!

[Tom206wrc]

Stunning time by Bouffier on SS14 :)

[dimviii]

Nobre sounded quite upset about being told to go away by George Donaldson. :(

Εxplain please Rene.

[Tom206wrc]

Kosciusko ??? :confused:

[logic]

Εxplain please Rene.
He was told to leave because his brakes were hot . Not just to go away .

[RS]

Problems for Loeb or really cruising?

[Tom206wrc]

In meantime Loeb finished SS15 ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Solberg 8" faster than Loeb...but how will react Hirvo' ??? ;)

[logic]

Come on petter!!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Hope someone can explain this to Nobre?

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvo 8"4 slower :(

[focus206]

Petter is holding on :)

[danon]

Petter doesn't even touch the settings of his Fiesta yet.

[N.O.T]

just cruising from everyone from now on...

what happened with Nobre and Donaldson ?

[René]

Εxplain please Rene.

Reported by James Graham, Nobre had a talk with Donaldson in Monaco which said to him to go away....

[N.O.T]

Reported by James Graham, Nobre had a talk with Donaldson in Monaco which said to him to go away....

but why ?

Isn't nobre paying for the car ?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Donaldson was telling Nobre after his interview questions that he must go, abruptly as his Brakes were smoking hot and they need to be cooled off properly as sitting there at stage end talking to anymore media or being parked - will destroy the brakes for next stage!!!

[dimviii]

Reported by James Graham, Nobre had a talk with Donaldson in Monaco which said to him to go away....


go away because of hot brakes to dont overheat more because he was stationary?

[AndyRAC]

Nobre had cooked his brakes - and George was trying to help him by trying to 'hurry him up' and to get moving......Nobre didn't understand what he meant.

[N.O.T]

Oh..LOL

i thought that he told him to go away from rallying and for a moment i was happy...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Hahahaha

[dimviii]

dedicated to NOT
http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/14/82/87/95/137.jpg

[danon]

What's this countdown for... :arrow: Auto Rallye Monte-Carlo en live | RTBF (http://www.rtbf.be/livecenter/live_auto-rallye-monte-carlo?id=36833)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Who is that?

[WRC1]

Oh..LOL

i thought that he told him to go away from rallying and for a moment i was happy...

but at least for slowson it is important that nobre stays in wrc.....he is the only one who is slower ;-)

[EightGear]

It's Cooke.


Bouffier is flying!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Here is count down to next stages for Monte today....

Rally Monte-Carlo Live Result - 2012 (http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live/liveresult.php?type=CG)

Interesting question!

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier again(SS15) :eek:

[pucky54]

Who is that?

That's the currently second placed PWRC driver ;)

[René]

What's this countdown for... :arrow: Auto Rallye Monte-Carlo en live | RTBF (http://www.rtbf.be/livecenter/live_auto-rallye-monte-carlo?id=36833)

For the live stage tomorrow in Monaco ;)

[RS]

Bouffier again(SS15) :eek:

Good time indeed but this does not surprise me. The best times for the two runs of this stage last year were 13m28.2 (Basso) and 13m08.9 (Sarrazin) and that was in the dark and cold.

[RS]

For the live stage tomorrow in Monaco ;)

Are Eurosport going to film it afterall?

[Kielder]

For the live stage tomorrow in Monaco ;)

It's impossible. The countdown says 29 hours from now.

[pucky54]

Good time indeed but this does not surprise me. The best times for the two runs of this stage last year were 13m28.2 (Basso) and 13m08.9 (Sarrazin) and that was in the dark and cold.

...and on different tires

[dimviii]

Very good photos ss 1 & 3
Le Monté-Carlo (http://motors-photos.jalbum.net/Le%20Mont%C3%A9-Carlo/)#

shakedown
"Monté-Carlo" de Pascal AGERON (http://jalbum.net/fr/browse/user/album/1110311/;jsessionid=73pd8mhuieaie6dis5s77ts9)

[danon]

For the live stage tomorrow in Monaco ;)

How come 1day 04:xx:xx to go.
The live power stage is at 10:11

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Petter is doing a fine job for a first rally in the Fiesta.

But for one bad tyre choice he would be second.

In comparison Hirvonen is well behind with his new Citroen...

[dimviii]

nice photo from Novikov
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6733186273_9a499185bb_z.jpg

[danon]

Live pics

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d6008f-de3c-6cb3.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600e7-e100-03bd.jpg

[dimviii]

nice video explains why Loeb is 2 minutes ahead.Watch first corner and compare
Rallye Monté-Carlo 2012 [HD] Es 12 - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnuxuy_rallye-monte-carlo-2012-hd-es-12_auto)

[A.F.F.]

Damn. I'm a bit disappointed that Mikko couldn't catch Petter in the morning leg :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Petter is doing a fine job for a first rally in the Fiesta.

But for one bad tyre choice he would be second.

In comparison Hirvonen is well behind with his new Citroen...



30 seconds(behind Petter), especially on Monte, isn't that big gap :p :

[pettersolberg29]

Yeah but on out and out pace Petter has shown much more in my opinion.

[Tom206wrc]

Also not bad from Neslon Panciatici(F3 circuit driver)for his first time in a C2 Max :)
OK, 1'32" behind Swiss Sylvain Droxler, in R2, but who knows his Fiesta since start of 2011 season...

[dimviii]

who is crazier pilot? :eek:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406371_288727551186197_115918055133815_886425_3347 04581_n.jpg

[pucky54]

Kosciuszko lost 8:30 Min of his PWRC lead!

[focus206]

Kosciuszko lost 8:30 Min of his PWRC lead!

Not a big problem for him :D

[dimviii]

another nice video
Rallye Monte Carlo 2012 by SpeedRallye [HD] - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnv5a0_rallye-monte-carlo-2012-by-speedrallye-hd_auto)

[pucky54]

Not a big problem for him :D

Hopefully the cause is not a big problem for him!

[René]

Soon ! ;)

http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/50/08/polo_i10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=385&u=11475008)

[danon]

nice video explains why Loeb is 2 minutes ahead.Watch first corner and compare
Rallye Monté-Carlo 2012 [HD] Es 12 - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnuxuy_rallye-monte-carlo-2012-hd-es-12_auto)

Excellent video that shows why Loeb is best of the rest.
You can compare the way Loeb passes through and how the rest do it.

The only one with a similar driving style I noticed is Ogier.

Only a black ninja can beat another black ninja.
Only a Francais (...?) can beat another Francais (Loeb).
Any idea who could that be... :D

[danon]

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d60079-eb0b-aa72.jpg

[dimviii]

nice photos
Galería - MotorADiario (http://www.motoradiario.com/index.php?view=category&catid=95&page=1&catpage=3&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=74#category)

Rallye Monte Carlo Jeudi - photomathieu's Photos | SmugMug (http://photomathieu.smugmug.com/Other/Rallye-Monte-Carlo-Jeudi/21099021_fSm5dZ#!i=1678192179&k=4wChc5G)

[uranium]

nice video explains why Loeb is 2 minutes ahead.Watch first corner and compare
Rallye Monté-Carlo 2012 [HD] Es 12 - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnuxuy_rallye-monte-carlo-2012-hd-es-12_auto)

To be honest this video show only one corner. And it shows only that Loeb better than other drivers went through this corner.

Anyway Loeb is the best.

[danon]

At nightfall

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600c3-efb7-5acf.jpg

[dimviii]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400218_280235458704561_157126557682119_760695_9145 23036_n.jpg

[danon]

I expect surprises in the next two stages with the night falling and temperature drops.

[RobertS]

Only a black ninja can beat another black ninja.
Only a Francais (...?) can beat another Francais (Loeb).
Any idea who could that be... :D
I hope Mr. Makinen will open a 'tarmac-school' for the current Finnish gravel-drivers :D
Good for the sport, good for everybody...

Hirvonen & Latvala spent more than 8 years in 'WRC-school', here is the time for the high-school ;)
They are professionals(?) with good salary, they can pay the 'tuition fee' for Mr. Makinen :D

But I think the real 'Monte-secrets' are not for sale at Mr. Makinen :s mokin:

[Roy]

Two completed almost dry stages. Loeb is relax, but Hirvonen, P. Solberg and Sordo are going flat out. We see not a big time difference between Hirvonen en P Solberg. But we see a slow Mini. Sodo said he was pusching, but was he pushing less, or was it the car? I believe it was the car.

Mini is still a Prodrive product. Better then the last rally car from few years ago, but still it is the same Prodrive. Not fast enough.

[dimviii]

Two completed almost dry stages. Loeb is relax, but Hirvonen, P. Solberg and Sordo are going flat out. We see not a big time difference between Hirvonen en P Solberg. But we see a slow Mini. Sodo said he was pusching, but was he pushing less, or was it the car? I believe it was the car.

Mini is still a Prodrive product. Better then the last rally car from few years ago, but still it is the same Prodrive. Not fast enough.

Imho Sordo play safe.There is no reason to push.

[dimviii]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6965/mg8723.jpg

[ProRally]

who is crazier pilot? :eek:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406371_288727551186197_115918055133815_886425_3347 04581_n.jpg

Same helicopter pilot who does IRC, lots of those pictures from Ypres and others....

[Langdale Forest]

When is the next stage on?

[danon]

http://img.tapatalk.com/50d600c1-f7f7-6d71.jpg

[Langdale Forest]

Is that a car on fire?

[danon]

BBQ

[Tom206wrc]

In less than 30 minutes start SS16 ;)

[gregwrc]

dedicated to NOT
http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/14/82/87/95/137.jpg

we love Cook .... :D

http://rallyteamgb.com/wp-content/uploads/Moanco-harbour1-600x450.jpg

[dimviii]

photos
eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Rallye Monte Carlo 2012 (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1489&fotograf=223&all=1)

[dimviii]

Are we ready? :D
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9986/img0972copie.jpg

[danon]

What a view, huh...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9986/img0972copie.jpg

[N.O.T]

The atmosphere on top of col cannot be matched... Let the torches light up once more !!!!!!

[René]

Braking point ! :)

http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/50/08/brakin10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=386&u=11475008)

[logic]

Petter is onn a charge!

[danon]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404602_282081818511846_157970524256310_733761_1182 016996_n.jpg

[N.O.T]

spin for Hirvonen on cold tyres...

[RAS007]

Delecour 3rd fastest. Malcolm should sign him up for the season..... ;)

[danon]

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/992865MC201203.jpg

[RobertS]

Delecour 3rd fastest. Malcolm should sign him up for the season..... ;)
Malcolm loves 'gravel-boys' only :D

[Roy]

Delecour 3rd fastest. Malcolm should sign him up for the season..... ;)

He comes back for rally France IMO. What a great driver, and then his age! WOW!

And Delecour had problems with the intercom this stage. Still 3rd!

[MJW]

Rally Radio seemed to suggest power stage IS being covered live on tv, is this true?

[ridder]

On last years monte in the so-called "ladycup" IRC Delecour was consintently doing around 8th place times, only one tire selection where he picked different than the whole field kicked him up a bit.

In the WRC he is managing top 6 times relatively consistently on dry tarmac.

Surely the conclusion can't be that there was more competition in the IRC than in WRC? :)

[Bartek]

PG have technical problems

[N.O.T]

Surely the conclusion can't be that there was more competition in the IRC than in WRC? :)

more competition but in slow motion.....ladycup style.

[bluuford]

On last years monte in the so-called "ladycup" IRC Delecour was consintently doing around 8th place times, only one tire selection where he picked different than the whole field kicked him up a bit.

In the WRC he is managing top 6 times relatively consistently on dry tarmac.

Surely the conclusion can't be that there was more competition in the IRC than in WRC? :)

Last year he was using old and outdated technology.. this year he said that he is happy to use the latest technology:-)

[ZequeArgentina]

Is great to see somebody like Delecour in Monte,or Kankkunen in Finlad some years ago, at their age doing it only for fun; but doing this competitive times°!
That is passion.

He has intercom problems but know this stages like almost nobody else

[dimviii]

ss 17 running

[tolis]

Pity, pity, pity for PG..... :( :(

[Bartek]

Pity, pity, pity for PG..... :( :(

Abbring said something about fire in PG car

Fuel leak in PG car

[logic]

gutted for PG

[bluuford]

On my Nokia map he is still stopped around 1-2 km before the Col

[mousti]

Delecour 3rd fastest. Malcolm should sign him up for the season..... ;)
He's of the whole field the most specialised in this rally..

Respect though for the very sharp çois.


NOOOOO PG :( I wanted to win him SWRC!

[EightGear]

Big shame for PG.

Breen is the only SWRC competitor now....

[focus206]

Too bad for PG and Proton :(

[ELPE]

So sad for PG, he has done god job for Proton

[SubaruNorway]

On my Nokia map he is still stopped around 1-2 km before the Col

Where do you get that from?

[bluuford]

Where do you get that from?

Nokia WRC live application, working with Symbian 3 or something. I can see map, stage times and dots on the maps where the cars are. results and comments are very quick, dots are not very reliable on the mountains.. but it is very clearly visible when some cars stop on one point too long

[dimviii]

Loeb finished

[N.O.T]

Loeb must finish any minute now

Loeb finished 16 seconds slower than solbergs 1st pass

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb finished SS17 ;)

[danon]

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[Tom206wrc]

Sordo has secured his great 2nd position for Mini ;)

[EightGear]

Solberg is really fast, I hope this proves something for the rest of the season.

[pettersolberg29]

Petter Solberg is showing what he still has to offer. Stage wins, and by a distant margin on many of them, and this is his weakest event. Really hopeful he'll grab a win or 3 this season now.