Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

[Franky]

N.O.T is just unstoppable ... what a commentator.

[René]

Cat and mouse game goes on between Sordo and Petter :)

[tiho86]

Loeb is fu....ing robot

[Miika]

Ogier seems to be some sort of machine as well, star of the rally so far.

[tiho86]

Ogier is recent series of robots :)

[Francis44]

Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get rid of Ogier.

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier is recent series of robots :)

Cyberdyne Seb 2

[René]

N° 100 PETIET C. / AMOROS C. RENAULT Twingo R1 after SS6 he's 41 overall with 50s penalties... Waooouuuh !!!

[Lalo]

..should put the sticker inside the windscreen

Like Ostberg: "Drive it as if you were stealing it"

[bluuford]

Ogier seems to be some sort of machine as well, star of the rally so far.
Do you know how many times Ogier has done these stages competitively in recent years? I think he is the one with the most experience with the current format (among top drivers). Ofcourse, he is doing well indeed :-)

[Red bull]

Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get ride of Ogier.

Their waste is somebody's treasure!

[fegh]

OGIER is really fantastic ....

[N.O.T]

Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get rid of Ogier.

i think for 2nd driver Hirvonen was far better...

Ogier should be a leader in a team not 2nd fiddle.

Maybe Ogier comes back after VW... you never know.

[bluuford]

It looks like Nobre is getting close to Wilsons times already :-)... with two rallies experience in WRCar

[Honza H.]

OGIER is really fantastic ....

Not only Ogier, Škoda is fantastic too :)

[A.F.F.]

Ogier is very good and shows the limits of S2000 :)

If I would be a teamboss for S2000 and my driver said I cannot go any faster with this car, I could say; well, Ogier did so it's possible, step on it b***h.

The real fight is behind Loeb which was predictable.

Does anyone know how is the weather on stages?

[A.F.F.]

Not only Ogier, Škoda is fantastic too :)

Very good point :up:

[René]

Not only Ogier, Škoda is fantastic too :)

It's not wrong ! ;)

[denkimi]

Ogier is very good and shows the limits of S2000 :)

If I would be a teamboss for S2000 and my driver said I cannot go any faster with this car, I could say; well, Ogier did so it's possible, step on it b***h.

don't forget ogier and abbring are the only ones with a "factory" s2000 (besides andersson, but proton is slow anyway). and those seem to make a big, not to say huge, difference.

[Jajá]

It looks like Nobre is getting close to Wilsons times already :-)... with two rallies experience in WRCar

Indeed, I am actually impressed he's going this far with no issues...

[KKS]

And don't forget it's Ogier, same as in Mexico and Argentina 2011. On this stage he is fastest, at next - he in a ditch.

[Francis44]

Why all the hate on Ogier?! He has some flaws but face it, he is the best to come out of the sport for a long time.

[Leon]

Indeed, I am actually impressed he's going this far with no issues...

I was thinking the same about Novikov :)

[René]

MONTE CARLO 2012

http://youtu.be/DppuHfUoq6k

[Sulland]

N° 100 PETIET C. / AMOROS C. RENAULT Twingo R1 after SS6 he's 41 overall with 50s penalties... Waooouuuh !!!

He has a lot of fun, and is far from last in the tiny Twingo !

[Viking]

Morning loop, stages 5,6,7

1 Loeb
2 Petter +18.0 (0.27s/km)
3 Sordo +22.7 (0.34s/km)
4 Hirvonen +30.9 (0.47s/km)
5 Novikov +49.5 (0.75s/km)
6 Ogier +52.3 (0.79s/km)

[Viking]

Ogier is very good and shows the limits of S2000 :)

If I would be a teamboss for S2000 and my driver said I cannot go any faster with this car, I could say; well, Ogier did so it's possible, step on it b***h.



Agree :) It will be wery intersting in Sweden when he lines up with IRC(NOTs ladycup)-champion Mikkelsen.

[JAM]

Ogier is better than LOeb. And Why? Because he is fast and made mistakes, and Loeb don't!

[René]

He has a lot of fun, and is far from last in the tiny Twingo !

I love this kind of performances of these drivers which far from "Tenors" make small miracles ;) That is a Rally spirit too !!!

[Tom206wrc]

And no surprise in 2WD, Cédric Robert well ahead ;)

[René]

And no surprise in 2WD, Cédric Robert well ahead ;)

Yes he do a great job ! Wait the Night stages he's like a cat, he sees at night as day ;)

[René]

Citroen start with soft tyres for the stage 8

[GigiGalliNo1]

Can someone give me start times for the remaining stages?

Current stage starts at 3pm local time...

[denkimi]

Can someone give me start times for the remaining stages?

Current stage starts at 3pm local time...
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Monte Carlo 2012 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/harmonogram.php?e=3363&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)

[René]

Can someone give me start times for the remaining stages?

Current stage starts at 3pm local time...

8. LABATIE D’ANDAURE - LALOUVESC 2 19.00 km 14:50
9. ST BONNET - ST JULIEN 2 25.22 km 15:31
10. LAMASTRE - GILHOC - ALBOUSSIERE 2 21.66 km 16:54

[focus206]

Sordo 0.2s faster than Loeb and 2.2 faster than Solberg on SS8

[pettersolberg29]

Henning Solberg is just ludicrous! Has there been a stage yet where he's had no problems?! For such a skilled engineer he doesn't treat his car that well :D

[focus206]

SS9 is on

[GigiGalliNo1]

Yesss!!!! :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

Funny we don't have split times... for this rally. But we have World Rally Radio...

No imagine not having WRR..... :D

How lucky we are!

[ZequeArgentina]

Indeed, I am actually impressed he's going this far with no issues...

Jajá, I am sorry but I think that it can not be expected anything much better from Paulo.
Unfortunately, the Brazileans who get to the WRC are not the best ones, I am sure there are much better ones.
For example, Rafael Tulio is way much faster and reliable, but he never had afast car to show his skills.

[Gard]

Henning Solberg is just ludicrous! Has there been a stage yet where he's had no problems?! For such a skilled engineer he doesn't treat his car that well :D

Has more to do with a car put together with used leftovers.

[RAS007]

Henning Solberg is just ludicrous! Has there been a stage yet where he's had no problems?! For such a skilled engineer he doesn't treat his car that well :D

Someone mentioned this in another thread: his car is always falling apart.....

[wwbroe]

Petter faster as Dani on this one, overall two seconds in front of the Mini now.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ogier doing good.Good to see him up there in that Skoda! SKODA!!!!

[focus206]

Novikov is not doing bad, let's hope he keeps on :)

[kiprazas]

Hirvonen : "No problems, just me." :D DDDD

[James Graham]

Great battle between Sordo and Solberg developing.

Amazing how Prodrive / MINI can build a car that sets fastest stage times yet can't find anyone who wants to put a sticker on the side of the car.


Good to see the youngsters going well and the majority of them staying on the road. Neuville has ruined my fantasy rally team result for this event though.

[René]

Novikov is not doing bad, let's hope he keeps on :)

Maybe Giraudet start to dream about finish the rally on the weel??

[WRC12]

And biggest leave Sordo in 2010.

[Red bull]

Just imagine...wilson has not beaten Ogier's Skoda s2000 even in a single stage in this rally!!!!!

[Franky]

A bit more and Prokop will take Wilson's position in the overall results. And Prokop lost about two and half minutes to Wilson after SS2.

[JAM]

Someone mentioned this in another thread: his car is always falling apart.....

Cheap cars.

When renting a WRC he receives what he pays. There's no free lunch

[JAM]

A bit more and Prokop will take Wilson's position in the overall results. And Prokop lost about two and half minutes to Wilson after SS2.

Armindo lost 4 minutes and is behind Wilson. And is the first time on Monte and has no margin for mistakes

[JAM]

Amazing how Prodrive / MINI can build a car that sets fastest stage times yet can't find anyone who wants to put a sticker on the side of the car.


Try to say that after a gravel rally :D

[Roy]

Maybe Giraudet start to dream about finish the rally on the weel??

He finished earlier with Novikov
eWRC-results.com - profile Evgeniy Novikov (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2742&t=Evgeniy-Novikov)
Novikov set good times, from his first rally in Monaco.

Tänak is for me a little disappointed. Last stage, SS8, is ok. Bu he was to much slower then grandfather Delecour. Shame.
Fortunately there are many kilometres to go.

[René]

Cedric Robert 16th time on stage 9 just back Matthew Wilson

[dimviii]

Delecour fiesta
www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=623&start=320)

[denkimi]

A bit more and Prokop will take Wilson's position in the overall results. And Prokop lost about two and half minutes to Wilson after SS2.
what's more. wilson, who has 6 years of wrc experience, is 2 minuten down on abbring, who is driving his second rally in an s2000 car.

[Red bull]

what's more. wilson, who has 6 years of wrc experience, is 2 minuten down on abbring, who is driving his second rally in an s2000 car.

while he had this to say after setting the 17th fastest time in ss8.....We changed springs. Feels OK. No dramas, quite dirty

[Roy]

what's more. wilson, who has 6 years of wrc experience, is 2 minuten down on abbring, who is driving his second rally in an s2000 car.

It's indeed his second rally in S2000, but not his second rally in wrc overall, if you want that mean?
He drives in JWRC in 2008 until 2010.

eWRC-results.com - profile Kevin Abbring (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2083&t=Kevin-Abbring)

[Viking]

Phil Mills on WRR, "there is a bigger chance of finding BinLaden still alive than having me coming back to codriving (a younger driver)" ...

[danon]

No snow - no show, no drama at all.
Get the blowers(snow) on, or bring the Super Rally back along. :D

[rbatista82]

Photos from Monte Carlo Rally:
SuperMotores | Rally, Fórmula 1, WRC (http://supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=253)

[focus206]

Sordo passes Solberg on the last SS of the day...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Excellent re Sordo!

Also, possible SNOW on Jan 20th!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Is there a Power Stage this year at rallies? Extra silly points?

[René]

Ogier off road.... Evgeni said Ouuuh it's a big one !!!!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ogier not at end of stage!? Novikov finishes first!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Novikov says Ogier crash in a very fast place.

[MikeD]

Aparantly a very big crash for Ogier

[MikeD]

As a big Novokov fan it's good to see him finding the speed again

[Viking]

Sordo passes Solberg on the last SS of the day...

Have an sneaking suspicion that Petter did that on purpose, could be all about making the latest tyre-choice tomorrow...

[Red bull]

Aparantly a very big crash for Ogier

ohhhh nooooooooooo.......

[N.O.T]

Lets hope the crew is ok.

[cali]

Lets hope the crew is ok.
Novikov said that the crew was out of the car - so should be OK

[Rallyper]

I see that Wilson might finish the rally which Ogier not will do. It´s the end that counts.

[MikeD]

Tänak stalled at the start - Campana is now in front of him

[wwbroe]

I see that Wilson might finish the rally which Ogier not will do. It´s the end that counts.

Sure, maybe he can still go for the win. :eek: :D :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

I see that Wilson might finish the rally which Ogier not will do. It´s the end that counts.

hmmm no...

[Wasted Talent]

just imagine...wilson has not beaten ogier's skoda s2000 even in a single stage in this rally!!!!!

To finish first, first you must finish..........

WT

[N.O.T]

Not a good start of Ogier... he should have taken it easy and score an easy win in his class...

Of course finding his limits is always nice especially now that he doesn't have any goals... but next year he must learn to control himself otherwise he is going to be another driver who will be crushed under the boot of the King...

[René]

Ogier's crash crew are confirmed OK but Matt Wilson suspects the car has rolled in 6th gear!

Dammmmd!!!!!!!!!!! He crash always in the last stage of the day or of the rally when he have no need to push !!!!!!!!!!

[Rallyper]

Sure, maybe he can still go for the win. :eek: :D :rolleyes:

I didn´t say that. I just compare drivers ability to finish rallies.

[Red bull]

To finish first, first you must finish..........

WT

nothing more to prove.....he is better.

[Tom206wrc]

No time from Ogier in SS10 :confused:

Edit: oops you all gave the answer :mark:

[Rallyper]

hmmm no...

No? So drivers who crashes out is the fastest? I reccon you have always disliked those "sick dogs" who crashes instead of making results. Wilson will, if he reaches finish, do a result, no matter what you say.

[Doon]

No? So drivers who crashes out is the fastest? I reccon you have always disliked those "sick dogs" who crashes instead of making results. Wilson will, if he reaches finish, do a result, no matter what you say.

Yes a poor result outside of the top 10, which also counts for nothing.

[Wasted Talent]

nothing more to prove.....he is better.

Not arguing, obviously Ogier is a better driver than Wilson, but the stick that Matt gets on here is pathetic

WT

[JAM]

Ogier off road.... Evgeni said Ouuuh it's a big one !!!!!

Here is the answer why he is better than Loeb to the WRC.

Let's see if the membres of this forum say that Ogier is not good because take risks and crashes (as said about Latvala).

[René]

Now P G Anderson lead the S2000 with the proton :)

[Wasted Talent]

Here is the answer why he is better than Loeb to the WRC.

Let's see if the membres of this forum say that Ogier is not good because take risks and crashes (as said about Latvala).

Well between them I reckon that's a fair bit damage from this event............

WT

[René]

Here is the answer why he is better than Loeb to the WRC.

Let's see if the membres of this forum say that Ogier is not good because take risks and crashes (as said about Latvala).

You know that it's the endless dilemma between those who make show and those who win....

[JAM]

You know that it's the endless dilemma between those who make show and those who win....

It's good to discovery if people go to the stages to see the Loeb's or Latvala's.

In my country, that is not France, people love to see the Latvalas's, Solberg's, Galli's., Ogier's, etc. And as you see, the WRC don't need many Loeb's. One is enough to ruin a party, as one Schumacher was enough to ruin F1 some years ago.

Great Rally to Ogier. On these stages he has some advantage, but he drove that Fabia S2000 on the limit.

Great fight between Sordo and Solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the WRC without Loeb.

[tolis]

Pity for Ogier...

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395593_10150597531840733_206160890732_11237600_577 086383_n.jpg

[RAS007]

Great fight between Sordo and Solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the WRC without Loeb.

Or with Loeb, but in a different car.........

[Lalo]

Pity for Ogier...

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395593_10150597531840733_206160890732_11237600_577 086383_n.jpg

It's easy to see he has been pushing very hard right from the start. What an amazing run for Sèb until he crashed :(

[Rallyper]

Yes a poor result outside of the top 10, which also counts for nothing.

Yepp. That´s true. And he hasn´t reached the finish yet, as well. But I just want to point the fact.


Not arguing, obviously Ogier is a better driver than Wilson, but the stick that Matt gets on here is pathetic

WT

For sure he is worth better than be hanged out all the time.

[dimviii]

It's good to discovery if people go to the stages to see the Loeb's or Latvala's.

In my country, that is not France, people love to see the Latvalas's, Solberg's, Galli's., Ogier's, etc. And as you see, the WRC don't need many Loeb's. One is enough to ruin a party, as one Schumacher was enough to ruin F1 some years ago.

Great Rally to Ogier. On these stages he has some advantage, but he drove that Fabia S2000 on the limit.

Great fight between Sordo and Solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the WRC without Loeb.

If Loeb didn t exists,previous year would you be ok with Mikko champion?The sport wouldn t be ruined,and would be more interesting?

[dimviii]

another photo from Ogier havarie
www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=623&sid=47f5bb75e61ed48c3da9b376c9f67df6&start=320)

[tolis]

Day 1 highlights Part1 : Loeb en tête devant Sordo et Solberg - RTBF Moteurs (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_loeb-en-tete-devant-sordo-et-solberg?id=7419213)

[JAM]

Pity for Ogier...

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395593_10150597531840733_206160890732_11237600_577 086383_n.jpg

Not bad. In 6th it could have been much worse.

[JAM]

Or with Loeb, but in a different car.........

I can only see a S2000... or a Mini on gravel Rallyes.

[JAM]

If Loeb didn t exists,previous year would you be ok with Mikko champion?The sport wouldn t be ruined,and would be more interesting?

Yes, Mikko in 2011, 2009 and 2008, Latvala in 2010, Gronholm in 2007 and 2006, Solberg in 2005 and 2004.

Tell me that was not different and more interesting than Loeb in 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004...

And on rallyes? How many differente winners could we had along all these years? And how many leaders could we had in each rally? Much more than we really had.

But lest's discuss Monte Carlo.

I hope snow tomorrow to create still more interest and casino.

Loen is secure in the lead, and only the gaming could EVENTUALLY put him out of the lead.
Armindo is doing a good rally for a newbie in Monte. Pitty the 4mins lost yesterday. He is showing that the Mini used in 2010 was really a bad car.

[Ucci]

Despite Loeb's superiority on this rally (and previous houndreds...) it is an intersting rally, maybe also due to the fact that it is more than two months from the last WRC run.
Ogier had no reason whatsoever to crash, he had a safe lead. But we can take this as a learning phase for next season, which will be much more important for him than this one. I yust want to say that drivers like him (honestly there is yust one like him-JML), who are capable to beat Loeb on some occasions must learn sometimes also to step-up from throtle and not yust drive constantley on the limit, as the limit line is very thin...Even the greatest of all-Mr.Loeb knows when it has no sense to push.
So, no big drama for this Ogier's mistake, he would not win this rally anyway. I'm still very impatient over the duel Mikkelssen-Ogier.

[tolis]

After JML's off there is no interest except for the battle for the 2nd place. There is no battle either in PWRC or SWRC. :(

[rallye-sport]

First update day 2 Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/IMG_7222.jpeg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/_MG_8344.jpeg

[René]

It's good to discovery if people go to the stages to see the Loeb's or Latvala's.

In my country, that is not France, people love to see the Latvalas's, Solberg's, Galli's., Ogier's, etc. And as you see, the WRC don't need many Loeb's. One is enough to ruin a party, as one Schumacher was enough to ruin F1 some years ago.

Great Rally to Ogier. On these stages he has some advantage, but he drove that Fabia S2000 on the limit.

Great fight between Sordo and Solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the WRC without Loeb.

The rally is not represented by only a single driver "Loeb". We cannot reproach Loeb for being a good pilot. Rallying is sports and as in all sports, very often it is the best one which win.
While Ogier is a good pilot, nobody says isn't. That his permanent attack is agreeable to see, it is good for show, but it does not make results.
If Sordo or Solberg go out by breaking for the benefit of the 2nd place, we can understand it and forgiveable. But when is always there is neither stake nor pressure it becomes in the long unpleasant, and somwhere a bit shame

[WRC12]

Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get rid of Ogier.

¿Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get rid of Ogier?

I think the biggest was leave Sordo at the end of 2010.

Fast and very safe.

Now Citroen can be first and second in Mone return.

[jolle1982]

Pictures day 2 Online!!!
http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/day_2_2_01_1327001308.jpg

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[tfp]

If Loeb didn t exists,previous year would you be ok with Mikko champion?The sport wouldn t be ruined,and would be more interesting?

What??? No, the sport wouldnt be ruined, the champonship would be way more open, way more interesting and way less monotonous, and predictable. Mikko would have won in Sardegna and Argentina last year without Loeb, and probably a few more, dont forget.

I have haardly followed this rally today, havent really been too bothered since Jari Matti crashed. Apart from the battle between Solberg and Sordo (Who is in the lead, by the way?) the result in the WRC class is pretty much finished and in black and white before even the first day is over. And the event is 5 days long. That isn't good, from which ever angle you look at it!

[rallye-sport]

Last update day 2 Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/IMG_7696.jpeg

[N.O.T]

if you want to see b and c class drivers winning events and become champions follow ladycups and local village events...

the top of the sport is only for the top drivers and for good or for worse for 9 years now Loeb is the best.

[tfp]

Is it just me, or is PG's car on stilts? :D

[tfp]

if you want to see b and c class drivers winning events and become champions follow ladycups and local village events...

the top of the sport is only for the top drivers and for good or for worse for 9 years now Loeb is the best.

What amazes me the most about Loeb - How can a man with so little hunger have so much greed?

[dimviii]

What??? No, the sport wouldnt be ruined, the champonship would be way more open, way more interesting and way less monotonous, and predictable. Mikko would have won in Sardegna and Argentina last year without Loeb, and probably a few more, dont forget.

I have haardly followed this rally today, havent really been too bothered since Jari Matti crashed. Apart from the battle between Solberg and Sordo (Who is in the lead, by the way?) the result in the WRC class is pretty much finished and in black and white before even the first day is over. And the event is 5 days long. That isn't good, from which ever angle you look at it!

if you want more interesting championship blame Latvala,Ogier,Hirvonen and co,NOT LOEB.

[Ucci]

if you want to see b and c class drivers winning events and become champions follow ladycups and local village events...

the top of the sport is only for the top drivers and for good or for worse for 9 years now Loeb is the best.

100% agree !!

[Barreis]

Ford gives Petter Solberg green light to fight for second in Monte Carlo - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97103)
Sebastien Ogier's co-driver Julien Ingrassia hurts arm in Monte Carlo Rally crash - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97102)

[Mirek]

Back in hotel :) Today much better than yesterday for me. Better places and more confidence from drivers in easier conditions. I was in both runs of Saint Bonnet in very very fast places. It was nice to watch especially absolutely crazy driving of Bouffier today. I haven't seen times so far (except top ten I have from sms) but what I saw from him was incredible. It's a big pity we lost Ogier because he was the one to watch in every place but that's a part of the game.

Anyway I want to add a little to the ACM decision not to allow superally. I'm here personally as spectator and I don't feel any problem with loosing some cars. I'm perfectly ok with the fact I see only those who didn't retire. For me it is absolutely natural that someone who retired can't continue.

I was here before in IRC editions without superally and I saw only 20 cars or so going over Turini in 2009 but hey, that's the goal of the rally to get over the Turini. How come that You could retire every day and still get to the legendary destintion of the rally history? That's a disgrace to the fundamentals of our sport, nothing else.

Personally I saw more IRC than WRC events. All those of IRC where without superally and I never felt any problem with that and I know most of my friends share this opinion.

[tolis]

Day 2-Best of Rally Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39eiFMuFGnY

[Allyc85]

if you want to see b and c class drivers winning events and become champions follow ladycups and local village events...

the top of the sport is only for the top drivers and for good or for worse for 9 years now Loeb is the best.


Ladycups? What the **** are you talking about now fool?!

[tfp]

Ladycups? What the **** are you talking about now fool?!

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[ste898]

What??? No, the sport wouldnt be ruined, the champonship would be way more open, way more interesting and way less monotonous, and predictable. Mikko would have won in Sardegna and Argentina last year without Loeb, and probably a few more, dont forget.

I have haardly followed this rally today, havent really been too bothered since Jari Matti crashed. Apart from the battle between Solberg and Sordo (Who is in the lead, by the way?) the result in the WRC class is pretty much finished and in black and white before even the first day is over. And the event is 5 days long. That isn't good, from which ever angle you look at it!

Finally people are seeing what I have said for ages

Loeb = BORING WRC

[dimviii]

Delecour big moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzsltlvVpbM

[ste898]

it's good to discovery if people go to the stages to see the loeb's or latvala's.

In my country, that is not france, people love to see the latvalas's, solberg's, galli's., ogier's, etc. And as you see, the wrc don't need many loeb's. One is enough to ruin a party, as one schumacher was enough to ruin f1 some years ago.

Great rally to ogier. On these stages he has some advantage, but he drove that fabia s2000 on the limit.

Great fight between sordo and solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the wrc without loeb.

agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mirek]

I can hardly believe someone who ever saw Loeb on stage live can say he finds him boring. Strange world we are living in...

[mousti]

Yes indeed Loeb is always full throttle and spectacular, on gravel I think Latvala and Solberg are maybe a bit more spectacular than him.

Vidéo Discussion entre T. Neuville et P. Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_discussion-entre-t-neuville-et-p-nobre?id=1570513&mediaset=rtbfsport--rallye&type=video)

Neuville not happy to touch Nobre's ass during a stage..

Nobre took it as a man and apoligied, and I think he was boiling in the Mini, look at the damp coming from his body :D

[PLuto]

I can hardly believe someone who ever saw Loeb on stage live can say he finds him boring. Strange world we are living in...

On Wednesday I saw him on SS 2 and he was really boring. Zero car (Megane) was faster than "big Seb" on our place :)

[driveace]

Who is preparing the Proton,s as they are Yorkshire registered?
I can fully understand the problem , that Loeb,makes all the others look silly,but he does have accidents occasionally,and its OPEN to all drivers with an International Competition Licence

[Allyc85]

Buy bras, briefs, swimwear and accessories from Sadie's online shop | Sadie the Bra Lady (http://www.sadiethebralady.com/)

Haha!

Hello, hello! Liking this Ladycup! ;)

Loeb isnt boring to watch, his corner entry speed is just rediculously fast! Its his domination which many people are getting tired of, while the battles behind are always a milion times better than him clearing off to another win. His success turns many away from the sport as they lose interest as soon as they are told Loeb has won again and the sport is at such a low it needs more fans to attract the sponsors to bring more teams in!

Lets prey for some mad weather to shake things up in the next few days :D

[Mirek]

On Wednesday I was him on SS 2 and he was really boring. Zero car (Megane) was faster than "big Seb" on our place :)

That was extreme conditions. Almost everybody was boring there including Solberg or Hirvonen...

[adr17]

Day 1 Review
Why didn't we have Eurosport years ago.
Latvala... Come on son... concentrate!
Neuville not clever taking wheel off.
Tanak, disappointed. not doing anything remotely interesting.
Mini 2nd driver looks like a major PR faux pax, they could had two car on or near top3.
So much for Go Faster.. thats a contidicton in terms.

tanak been told not to push must finish rallies he has nt done before to learn for future , allowed to push on rallies he has experience of

[Mirek]

Just got information that last 8 kms of second tomorrows stage are covered by ice. It's very cold part where ice and snow has always been present in past years.

[dimviii]

On Wednesday I was him on SS 2 and he was really boring. Zero car (Megane) was faster than "big Seb" on our place :)

with wrong tyres everybody is boring.The matter with Loeb is that with right tyres was 1 minute ahead in one single ss.Thats matters,and to be inside the road.Two mainly future wanabe champions failed again for 3rd? 4th? 5th? time last 12 rallies,to stay inside the road while there was no reason to push.Ogier was there for practice,cause next year must have experience with polo wrc to stop Loeb,and Latvala choosed to fight in asphalt at first rally first day inside Loebs ''house'' Not so clever for both.

[Barreis]

Delecour big moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzsltlvVpbM

The big one.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_p_9d5f3e72b6.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_ddcf17bffd.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_ebc1e68fe0.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_d8028d510c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_cd674428f5.jpg

More photos from day 2 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=973&fseason=2012)

[tolis]

Yes indeed Loeb is always full throttle and spectacular, on gravel I think Latvala and Solberg are maybe a bit more spectacular than him.

Vidéo Discussion entre T. Neuville et P. Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_discussion-entre-t-neuville-et-p-nobre?id=1570513&mediaset=rtbfsport--rallye&type=video)

Neuville not happy to touch Nobre's ass during a stage..

Nobre took it as a man and apoligied, and I think he was boiling in the Mini, look at the damp coming from his body :D

Nobre apologizing: Vidéo Interview Paulo Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_interview-paulo-nobre?id=1570503&mediaset=rtbfsport--home&type=video) :D

[PLuto]

with wrong tyres everybody is boring.The matter with Loeb is that with right tyres was 1 minute ahead in one single ss.Thats matters,and to be inside the road.Two mainly future wanabe champions failed again for 3rd? 4th? 5th? time last 12 rallies,to stay inside the road while there was no reason to push.Ogier was there for practice,cause next year must have experience with polo wrc to stop Loeb,and Latvala choosed to fight in asphalt at first rally first day inside Loebs ''house'' Not so clever for both.

He was very slow also with his type of tyres. I think they had bad informations from gravel crews (or after bad experience from the previous passages on the stage), but he almost stopped on that place. Most of 2WD cars were faster...

[N.O.T]

Ladycups? What the **** are you talking about now fool?!

you know IRC, ERC, the regional cups.... not the accessory.

[zajic]

Photos from second leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=974&fseason=2012)
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_delecour_-_savignoni_ford_fiesta_rs_wrc_63fe6839d1.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_prokop_-_hruza_ford_fiesta_rs_wrc_68638f700b.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_sordo_-_del_bario_mini_jcw_wrc_ccb6675a95.jpg

[N.O.T]

Nobre apologizing: Vidéo Interview Paulo Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_interview-paulo-nobre?id=1570503&mediaset=rtbfsport--home&type=video) :D

great guy :)

but not a rally driver.

[dimviii]

He was very slow also with his type of tyres. I think they had bad informations from gravel crews (or after bad experience from the previous passages on the stage), but he almost stopped on that place. Most of 2WD cars were faster...

yes if he has wrong info from gravel crew he has to slow down.But this is a totally different story to say that he is not spectacular.
Spectacular pass from a corner isn t the pass with maximum degree oversteer,is the pass with clean line,maximum exit corner speed,late brakes,and inside the clean road to avoid broken rims-flat tyres etc.And Loeb in every video,and in every rally i ve seen was really from another level.
if somebody can t understant what is a fast pass from stage isn t Loebs fault.
Pluto i am not talking to you,just grabbed the chance to type some words. :D

[dimviii]

great guy :)

but not a rally driver.

+1 just imagine Delecour,Panizzi,Duval in his position. :D

[Francis44]

Panizzi = Fight.....

just joking by the way.

[focus206]

Nobre apologizing: Vidéo Interview Paulo Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_interview-paulo-nobre?id=1570503&mediaset=rtbfsport--home&type=video) :D

A true gentleman :)

[mousti]

Or Galli, Italian fire! :D

[Allyc85]

Panizzi = Fight.....

just joking by the way.

But Gigi Galli? ;)

Very good of him to apologise, can see his reasoning on such crazy, twisty roads!

[N.O.T]

just saw the accident of Ogier ...5th gear accident...very lucky he did not crash into something solid.

[Barreis]

I'm waiting for Eurosport coverage.

[Allyc85]

I'm waiting for Eurosport coverage.

Me too, got to wait for the bloody snooker to finish first though :(

[Barreis]

Last night was bad but only half an hour. :D

[danon]

Loeb is not to blame. The rest can't fly! :bounce:

http://www.football365.fr/diaporama/galeries/1321273925/normal/1321273925_2.jpg?v1

[dimviii]

Last night was bad but only half an hour. :D

thats good

[OldF]

Just watched the coverage from today on MTV3 katsomo (internet service). Ogier’s crash was in a fast left corner. He cut the corner but it was a quite deep cut and when the wheels came back on tarmac, the car went on two wheels. Nothing he could do. Luckily they didn’t roll.

[OldF]

Me too, got to wait for the bloody snooker to finish first though :(

Isn’t it poker today?

[montagni]

Who is preparing the Proton,s as they are Yorkshire registered?
I can fully understand the problem , that Loeb,makes all the others look silly,but he does have accidents occasionally,and its OPEN to all drivers with an International Competition Licence

I believe its Chris Mellors at MEM in Bakewell Derby, hes had quite a bit of success with Proton preparation plus he was a good driver in his own right.

[danon]

Isn’t it poker today?

It is.

[Allyc85]

Isn’t it poker today?

Ah yea.... both as boring as each other :laugh:

[tolis]

Eurosport highlights start in 45 minutes we hope!

[Sardalense]

Just saw Ogier´s acident in Motors TV, and he was very lucky!! He was going really really fast!

[Co-driven]

Yes indeed Loeb is always full throttle and spectacular, on gravel I think Latvala and Solberg are maybe a bit more spectacular than him.

Vidéo Discussion entre T. Neuville et P. Nobre - RTBF Sport (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/video/detail_discussion-entre-t-neuville-et-p-nobre?id=1570513&mediaset=rtbfsport--rallye&type=video)

Neuville not happy to touch Nobre's ass during a stage..

Nobre took it as a man and apoligied, and I think he was boiling in the Mini, look at the damp coming from his body :D

Nobre know in which level he is, he is conscious that he isn't in the same level as the top guys. And knowing him, I'm sure it wasn't on purpose what he did. Imagine being for your first time on Monte, with the treacherous conditions and in a World Rally Car...

And the attitude he had of apologizing was really noble (Nobre is noble in Portuguese).

[Ondra WRC]

Ogier big crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FHwLFhAlR-E

[dimviii]

very lucky they didn t touch something like rock-tree! :eek:

[Barreis]

This guy is quick.

[bluuford]

Just got information that last 8 kms of second tomorrows stage are covered by ice. It's very cold part where ice and snow has always been present in past years.

Well.. it looks like the latest weatherdata really promises some snow for us as well:-)

[Mirek]

The accident of Ogier was very scary! By the way Eurosport France had the report in time at 23 o'clock.

[N.O.T]

Well.. it looks like the latest weatherdata really promises some snow for us as well:-)

lets see if Sordo and Solberg decide to risk everything.

[Bartek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEqBucCvv0c

Found this movie on YT.

Mirek you were in the same place like in this video?

[PLuto]

Photos of Roman Kasparek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13274)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/407c4bf817e3739f686c9c47c5195b26.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/1996e6df130bfdc3fb4f1fcfbbdb234a.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/011cf8014d5fe42519c0c9d8fe1c4a71.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/4e03e2431fb78f428272bfd8b9edb657.jpg

[PLuto]

Found this movie on YT.

Mirek you were in the same place like in this video?

You are really fast, i have just uploaded it :-) Yes, Mirek was on this places.

[Mirek]

Found this movie on YT.

Mirek you were in the same place like in this video?

Yes, I'm even in the video setting fire with the deodorant spray :D

[Bartek]

I think this place is good to see difference between Top WRC drivers and other crews for example Novikov vs Prokop

PS. Be careful, my friend does not have eyebrows so far :)

[danon]

What a deodorant-way to set oneself on fire. Lucky you! :hot:

[tolis]

Now highlights on Portuguese Eurosport: Eurosport em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)

[danon]

Fred Sauvan's Evo burst in flames :arrow: Video (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2427668696688)

[52Paddy]

Not shaping up to be a classic thus far. But a decent battle for second place with Solberg and Sordo. What do we reckon about Carlton Kirby?

He doesn't exactly excite you but, at least, it's not 'live' commentary and he's still lightyears ahead of Paul King. Much more relaxed viewing.

[GigiGalliNo1]

You know there are three more days of rally, and the top 3 could change.. something might go wrong for Loeb, Sordo and Solberg... who knows! No body does so you can't say this is 100% what it will look like!

[RS]

Rally is to script so far. What is the weather forecast for today? That might shake things up.

[bluuford]

Yesterday night it was a lot of snow on the forecast.. but everything changed. Looks like it rained a lot overnight, light rain continues in SS11 and SS12 and there should be a lot of water. temperature is around 4 degrees for some parts of the stage. and should be around +1 on the higher elevations. hovever, the ground is still cold and that should create more difficult conditions. I am not sure but it looks like in some places there should be some fresh snow.

This Camera is around 10-15 km from the stage: http://laberthuniere.free.fr/webcam/photo.jpg?a=0.3713662518051045

[René]

Good morning to all ! SS11 on air with mixed rain, snow and ice spot

[GigiGalliNo1]

Morning!

[HarriK]

Morning! Ready to rock again!

[saxter]

S.S. 12
Solberg 12:08.6
Sordo 12:21.8
Loeb 12:25.3

[René]

Petter 13" faster that Dani :)

[Mise]

wow, Solberg attacking. 13,2 to Sordo

[Bartek]

Guys, do you know something about tyres they have?

[Gard]

tire gambling going on?

[Gard]

Rumours from WRR. sordo on stud and Solberg on supersoft with studs in spare

[cali]

Guys, do you know something about tyres they have?
Citroen and Mini studs, Petter supersoft slicks

[René]

Petter with super soft and the DS3 WRCs have 2 studded tires and 2 slicks.

[saxter]

The old dog F.Delecour 12:11.9 !!!!
Nice and respect!

[René]

edit

[Leon]

It appears that Delecour shares the phonecalls from his friends with the team :) Ford 1,2,3,4 at this stage

[Bartek]

tire gambling going on?

Looks like Ford had good tyres for first today stage, next stages will be very interesting.

After Tanak time i'm pretty sure that Ford risked a lot

[René]

SS12 4 studded tyres for Loeb

[Langdale Forest]

If Solberg can keep 2nd place, it would be a good start to his championship.

[nr7wave]

Petters first SS win with the Fiesta! Congrats!
So, for the nerds out there: When did Solberg last time have the fastest SS in a Ford?

[Mintexmemory]

Looks like Ford had good tyres for first today stage, next stages will be very interesting.

After Tanak time i'm pretty sure that Ford risked a lot

Advantage to Tanak in his fight with Campana, Araujo quicker than Hirvonen (just shouldn't happen to someone with Champ pretentions) and now Mikko really has a tussle with Novikov on his hands, couldn't be more pleased for Denis - a true sportsman and a very nice person. Is it too much to hope the Petter can take anothe chunk out of Loeb's lead!

[René]

Raining out on stage 12 now. Tyre choice interesting for all crews :)

[Moriarty]

Tire choice for SS12
Leb 4 studded tiers
Hirvo - the same
Sordo - winter w/o studs
Novikov - diagonal cross with supersoft and studs

[Miika]

Oh yes, the Monte has just started.

[Mise]

Usually when Loeb loses 20 secs in first stage, he wins one minute on the next one.

[René]

It was in this stage that Bouffier and Delecour had tipped up Monte Carlo 2011

[GigiGalliNo1]

World Rally Radio are the best! My Birthday present indeed!

[Francis44]

World Rally Radio are the best! My Birthday present indeed!

They were talking about you wasn't it?!

Happy Birthday.

[N.O.T]

Solberg wrong tyres...

[Miika]

French Empire Strikes Back - part 5028.

[N.O.T]

57 seconds behind Sordo now....

Hirvonen fastest !!!

[Bartek]

Solberg lost second place, it's Monte but i think will be difficult for Peter, Mini have good strategy with tyres. Respect for Hirvo :)

[Crocone]

I think I'm the only one who hates Monte Carlo Rally. Too many tactics. I prefer the simple rounds. Just driving as fast as you can.

[denkimi]

Usually when Loeb loses 20 secs in first stage, he wins one minute on the next one.
you should start gambling. :D

[N.O.T]

Tyre gamble once more... meh.

[dimviii]

SOLBERG P. / PATTERSON C. (st. č. 4) "I had slicks on the rear. No studs on the front. It was very bad." / "Měl jsem slick na zadku. Na předku bez hřebů. Hodně špatné."


Ford sent the crew with this combination of tyres at these conditions?
Blame Loeb for not interesting championship! :D

[René]

From the start of the rally its the first stage that Mikko is front Loeb that good for his confidence :)

[Langdale Forest]

Is the points system the same as last year?

[dimviii]

Usually when Loeb loses 20 secs in first stage, he wins one minute on the next one.

Finally somebody understants what he see

[René]

When you have ice spot on the road and that it start raining, you can imagine the quantity of water running on the road...

[Rallyper]

I think I'm the only one who hates Monte Carlo Rally. Too many tactics. I prefer the simple rounds. Just driving as fast as you can.

No, you´re not. MC back to the backyards and IRC. No place for gambling in WRC. I want plain driving against the clock without hazards like tyrechoices.

[René]

Good time for Campana

[Langdale Forest]

Campana is the fastest Mini, faster than Sordo.

[Franky]

So, how much will Wilson lose on this stage?

[Langdale Forest]

So, how much will Wilson lose on this stage?

Why is Wilson entred in this rally?

[N.O.T]

So, how much will Wilson lose on this stage?

he will be cautious...

[N.O.T]

Why is Wilson entred in this rally?

Why Wilson entered rally in the first place ?

[EightGear]

Meh, just 2 minutes slower.

[Langdale Forest]

Surley the money could be better spent on Latvala and Solberg.

Wilson has shown up as 11th overall but he will be pushed down to 13th when the leading 2 S2000 come through

[AndyRAC]

I think I'm the only one who hates Monte Carlo Rally. Too many tactics. I prefer the simple rounds. Just driving as fast as you can.

But that's what the Monte is about - didn't you watch last year? Hanninen was the fastest driver, but made a bad tyre choice, and it cost him. Bouffier made the right choice and won the event.

[Wim_Impreza]

I think I'm the only one who hates Monte Carlo Rally. Too many tactics. I prefer the simple rounds. Just driving as fast as you can.

You are not alone. ;)

[bluuford]

Heh, Nobre with supermarket shopping speed is almost as fast as Wilson .-)

[bjalverud]

not fair from Nobre, GO FAST could have got 2 slowest times :-)

[tolis]

Day 2 Highlights-Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVBBDuUA4qM
Day 2 Highlights-Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNtBk_ksF4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVBBDuUA4qM

[kubiczech]

Does anyone know how many tyres of each type does one driver alocated?

[Rallyper]

Fastest driver who reaches the finish, should be the winner. Not the best lotterydraw driver in tyre choces. MC s***s!

[Langdale Forest]

1. Loeb S. - Elena D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139281&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#1 Citroen DS3 WRC WRC 3:14:13.6
2.
Sordo D. - Del Barrio C. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139293&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#37 Mini Cooper WRC WRC 3:16:22.6
+2:09.0
+2:09.0 3.
Solberg P. - Patterson C. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139284&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#4 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:17:20.2
+3:06.6
+57.6
4.
Hirvonen M. - Lehtinen J. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139282&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#2 Citroen DS3 WRC WRC 3:17:59.5
+3:45.9
+39.3 5.
Novikov E. - Giraudet D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139286&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#6 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:18:39.3
+4:25.7
+39.8 6. Delecour F. - Savignoni D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139287&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#8 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:20:33.5
+6:19.9
+1:54.2
7.
Campana P. - de Castelli S. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139294&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#52 Mini Cooper WRC WRC 3:21:38.3
+7:24.7
+1:04.8
8.
Tänak O. - Sikk K. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139285&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#5 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:22:31.5
+8:17.9
+53.2
9. Andersson P. - Axelsson E. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139301&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#33 Proton Satria Neo S2000 2 3:26:28.6
+12:15.0
+3:57.1 10.
Abbring K. - Vanneste L. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139307&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#17 Škoda Fabia S2000 2 3:28:13.2
+13:59.6
+1:44.6

[René]

Cedric Robert 13th time with DS3 R3 :)

[N.O.T]

1. Loeb S. - Elena D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139281&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#1 Citroen DS3 WRC WRC 3:14:13.6
2.
Sordo D. - Del Barrio C. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139293&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#37 Mini Cooper WRC WRC 3:16:22.6
+2:09.0
+2:09.0 3.
Solberg P. - Patterson C. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139284&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)


#4 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:17:20.2
+3:06.6
+57.6
4.
Hirvonen M. - Lehtinen J. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139282&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#2 Citroen DS3 WRC WRC 3:17:59.5
+3:45.9
+39.3 5.
Novikov E. - Giraudet D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139286&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#6 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:18:39.3
+4:25.7
+39.8 6. Delecour F. - Savignoni D. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139287&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#8 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:20:33.5
+6:19.9
+1:54.2
7.
Campana P. - de Castelli S. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139294&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#52 Mini Cooper WRC WRC 3:21:38.3
+7:24.7
+1:04.8
8.
Tänak O. - Sikk K. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139285&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#5 Ford Fiesta RS WRC WRC 3:22:31.5
+8:17.9
+53.2
9. Andersson P. - Axelsson E. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139301&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#33 Proton Satria Neo S2000 2 3:26:28.6
+12:15.0
+3:57.1 10.
Abbring K. - Vanneste L. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=3363&d=139307&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2012)
#17 Škoda Fabia S2000 2 3:28:13.2
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i think everyone in here knows were to find results....

[bt52b]

Fastest driver who reaches the finish, should be the winner. Not the best lotterydraw driver in tyre choces. MC s***s!

Its is. Its the driver who makes the best of his tyre choices, rarely does a driver make 100% correct choice all the time. Classic Monte!

[DonJippo]

Fastest driver who reaches the finish, should be the winner. Not the best lotterydraw driver in tyre choces. MC s***s!

If you look the results really carefully you might notice that it is the fastest driver who wins in every event, Monte is about understanding the conditions and using your head to make right tyre choices to get through fastest. You can hardly win a gravel rally with studded tyres or with slicks so it's about choosing the right tyres there as well.

[Brother John]

I think I'm the only one who hates Monte Carlo Rally. Too many tactics. I prefer the simple rounds. Just driving as fast as you can.

No, you're not alone, in the seventies i was once at the MC and never wanted to go back and there was much more to see at that time than the few stages now.

[OldF]

Scary moments for Petter in 2005 Monte. This is from the next stage (SS13) about 1 km from the finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD6dYWE0qkM&feature=fvsr

[Mintexmemory]

Heh, Nobre with supermarket shopping speed is almost as fast as Wilson .-)

Yes, but as MW hasn't done the Monte for the last 2 years he is only in year 4 of the 5 year plan as far as this event is concerned!
Forget jealousy, or spending more on JML and Petter (what on? by the way) a damn fine, competitive driver (Meeke) is sitting on his butt while Matthew is embarrassed by a PROTON

[MikeD]

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[Langdale Forest]

Yes, but as MW hasn't done the Monte for the last 2 years he is only in year 4 of the 5 year plan as far as this event is concerned!


But it is irrelivant, his 5 year plan ended last year and there is obvousley no hope for him.

I am sure he is now on a 10 year plan.

Matthew Wilson is entred for Sweden so he must be on a 10 year plan.

http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=3488&t=Rally-Sweden-2012

[bretddog]

I think tyre tactics is a great part of the sport. It's just frustrating to see a team gamble on slicks against seemingly all available weather data. We heard for days that the weather would come in today, confirmed yesterday, this morning, by just about everyone. I can hardly believe the Ford's choice was based on best expectancy statistical data. It looks like a low probability bold gamble. While you see Loeb always go on conservative side in these situations. Which is not really conservative, it's just a team who knows how to calculate expectancy.

[Mintexmemory]

But it is irrelivant, his 5 year plan ended last year and there is obvousley no hope for him.

I am sure he is now on a 10 year plan.
It might also be irrelevant! ;-) Sorry should I have headlined the post "SARCASM WARNING". The debatable question about this event is could Meeke have done as well as Campana is doing? (Obviously, I think yes)

[Sulland]

If main goal for Ford is to get points, why the tyre gamble?

[René]

It's nice to see that Novikov put a 'flat' on his temper and makes a solid rally at the moment

[Mintexmemory]

If main goal for Ford is to get points, why the tyre gamble?

I expect it was a futile attempt to 'spook' Loeb into a mistake. You are right they should have been mirroring the Mini choices as that is the real competition for them on this event.

[René]

Q and A: Todt on the WRC's future

FIA president Jean Todt on the World Rally Championship's crisis and future - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97111?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

[René]

SS12 28th 100 PETIET C. / AMOROS C. RENAULT Twingo R1 :)