Daytona race thread

[MD24]

Coke Zero 400

Qualifying: Friday, July 1st 4:10 pm/et

Green Flag : Saturday, July 2nd 7:45 pm/et

[Bob Riebe]

FIRECRACKER 400

NASCAR does not even have the decency to honor its own country.
Of course since Big Bill died, the France family has not done much to honor itself, beyond satisfying its greed.

[MD24]

1 5 Mark Martin
2 21 Trevor Bayne
3 33 Clint Bowyer
4 24 Jeff Gordon
5 6 David Ragan
6 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
7 71 Andy Lally
8 48 Jimmie Johnson
9 43 A.J. Allmendinger
10 27 Paul Menard

11 39 Ryan Newman
12 31 Jeff Burton
13 4 Kasey Kahne
14 99 Carl Edwards
15 9 Marcos Ambrose
16 17 Matt Kenseth
17 16 Greg Biffle
18 1 Jamie McMurray
19 14 Tony Stewart
20 83 Brian Vickers

21 51 Landon Cassill
22 97 Kevin Conway
23 00 David Reutimann
24 47 Bobby Labonte
25 22 Kurt Busch
26 2 Brad Keselowski
27 38 Travis Kvapil
28 78 Regan Smith
29 60 Mike Skinner
30 42 Juan Montoya

31 29 Kevin Harvick
32 13 Casey Mears
33 66 Michael McDowell
34 56 Martin Truex Jr.
35 135 Geoff Bodine
36 11 Denny Hamlin
37 20 Joey Logano
38 18 Kyle Busch
39 34 David Gilliland
40 36 Dave Blaney

41 32 Terry Labonte
42 7 Mike Bliss
43 87 Joe Nemechek

Did Not Qualify
44 37 Tony Raines
45 46 J.J. Yeley

[call_me_andrew]

FIRECRACKER 400

NASCAR does not even have the decency to honor its own country.
Of course since Big Bill died, the France family has not done much to honor itself, beyond satisfying its greed.

Did they stop playing the national anthem before every race?

[Lee Roy]

h

[harvick#1]

Nascar once again, throwing a caution at the end for a half spin from Gordon who already corrected it. then over 2/3rd's of the field crashes from the result of the field being bunched up

[MD24]

Another demolition derby :\

[call_me_andrew]

The Gordon caution was legit enough.

[Sparky1329]

I thought it was legit too. I've seen them throw the yellow flag for a lot less. Caution flag or not, the last ten laps are always nuts in plate races.

I'm really not liking this two-by-two stuff.

[call_me_andrew]

I like the two-by-two. Pack racing sucked, and this is closer to what unrestricted racing would look like.

[Lee Roy]

I still won't watch it.

[harvick#1]

just remember, if Daytona was not repaved, the 2 car packs would have never worked, maybe for a few laps with fresh tires, but the track would become slick and it would be every man for himself

[Lee Roy]

And if they reduced the banking they could do away with restrictor plate racing altogether.

I won't watch restrictor plate racing.

[Alfa Fan]

There is another solution. Drop the engine size down from the current 6 litres to something around 2-3 litres turbocharged. That engine would still be easily capable of producing 700hp, which combined with a reduction in weight (partly through smaller engine) down to around 1000kg. With a turbocharged engine it's simply a case of mandating a different boost level for each track, and with 1/3 of the weight gone the cars will be much safer in high speed accidents even with increased speeds. At the same time the horribly outdated carburettors could be replaced by fuel injection.

[00steven]

Good job by Ragan, he deserved it.

[call_me_andrew]

There is another solution. Drop the engine size down from the current 6 litres to something around 2-3 litres turbocharged. That engine would still be easily capable of producing 700hp, which combined with a reduction in weight (partly through smaller engine) down to around 1000kg. With a turbocharged engine it's simply a case of mandating a different boost level for each track, and with 1/3 of the weight gone the cars will be much safer in high speed accidents even with increased speeds. At the same time the horribly outdated carburettors could be replaced by fuel injection.

Well what's the point of controlling boost if they're supposed to be safer at high speed?