Infineon race thread

[MD24]

Toyota/Save Mart 350

Qualifying: Friday, June 24 6.40 pm/et

Green Flag : Sunday, June 26 3:15 pm/et

[harvick#1]

time for the demo derby!!!!!!!!

[00steven]

I love road racing! I think NASCAR should do more of it.

[Sparky1329]

I love road racing! I think NASCAR should do more of it.

+100 I love these races.

[harvick#1]

I'd like to see them try to whip around Road Atlanta, that would be a cool site with major elevation changes, with a very big rhythm circuit. It would also be very cool if the Cup series traveled to Montreal

[00steven]

They should go to Road America for sure!

[MD24]

1 20 Joey Logano
2 1 Jamie McMurray
3 27 Paul Menard
4 11 Denny Hamlin
5 39 Ryan Newman
6 4 Kasey Kahne
7 43 A J Allmendinger
8 9 Marcos Ambrose
9 33 Clint Bowyer
10 83 Brian Vickers

11 22 Kurt Busch
12 48 Jimmie Johnson
13 24 Jeff Gordon
14 56 Martin Truex Jr.
15 2 Brad Keselowski
16 5 Mark Martin
17 42 Juan Pablo Montoya
18 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
19 18 Kyle Busch
20 14 Tony Stewart

21 47 Bobby Labonte
22 16 Greg Biffle
23 99 Carl Edwards
24 78 Regan Smith
25 31 Jeff Burton
26 29 Kevin Bozo Harvick
27 13 Casey Mears
28 7 Robby Gordon
29 34 David Gilliland
30 51 Boris Said

31 87 Joe Nemechek
32 00 David Reutimann
33 17 Matt Kenseth
34 6 David Ragan
35 77 P J Jones
36 36 Dave Blaney
37 60 Mike Skinner
38 66 David Mayhew
39 32 Terry Labonte
40 81 Brian Simo

41 71 Andy Lally
42 37 Chris Cook
43 46 Andy Pilgrim

DNQ 38 Tony Ave

[call_me_andrew]

I love the road races and wish they'd go to Salt Lake. I also wish NASCAR would learn how to organize one.

[00steven]

Some real dumbass moves out there by Montoya, Kesolowski, and Stewart. Totally uncalled for.

[wedge]

Some of those payback moves were plain dumb and tiresome but then again JPM was asking for it for that turn 2 punt.

*goes back to watching V8 Supercars*

[00steven]

Some of those payback moves were plain dumb and tiresome but then again JPM was asking for it for that turn 2 punt.

*goes back to watching V8 Supercars*

I agree, but Kyle Busch was having a good run when he was taking out by Kesolowski and Montoya's little fued. I'm all for paybacks as long as nobody else gets taken out in them. Like Tony for example, why would he take out 3-4 cars just to dump Vickers? Stupid is what it is.

[harvick#1]

I agree, but Kyle Busch was having a good run when he was taking out by Kesolowski and Montoya's little fued. I'm all for paybacks as long as nobody else gets taken out in them. Like Tony for example, why would he take out 3-4 cars just to dump Vickers? Stupid is what it is.

Montoya is an idiot, he was playing bumper cars all day and guys like Truex and Brad simply had enough of this crap. he was pushing people off the road.

Stewart is in the same boat, when he wrecked vickers for "so-called" blocking, Vickers was also trying to pass other cars in the hairpin and took the inside. dont know what Stewart was thinking, the only thing was McDowell should've been parked for his wreck on think Blaney, totally uncalled for

[Lee Roy]

. . . the only thing was McDowell should've been parked for his wreck on think Blaney, totally uncalled for

Are you thinking about Bobby Labonte in the #47 instead of Blaney?

I'm not sure what McDowell was thinking about. I have to think that that incident was an accident. If it wasn't, it would be interesting to know what it was all about.

[harvick#1]

yeah, Labonte, forgot who he tagged, but that looked far from an accident, McDowell just took a hard left and Labonte in the wall. unless Bobby make a dirty move before, thats not a move to pull to get payback.

[zako85]

I typically watch IndyCar and Formula 1, and sometimes half-year old BTCC race if SpeedTV finally decides to show one in the US. I am just curious, how does last weekend's Sprint Cup race rank relative to an "average" NASCAR race. It was the first ever Sprint Cup race I tried to watch from the beginning to the end, and I thought it was pretty snooze inducing. The track had interesting features but it was short and got repetitive and boring pretty fast, and there was no enough action to make up for that IMO.

[Lee Roy]

I typically watch IndyCar and Formula 1, and sometimes half-year old BTCC race if SpeedTV finally decides to show one in the US. I am just curious, how does last weekend's Sprint Cup race rank relative to an "average" NASCAR race. It was the first ever Sprint Cup race I tried to watch from the beginning to the end, and I thought it was pretty snooze inducing. The track had interesting features but it was short and got repetitive and boring pretty fast, and there was no enough action to make up for that IMO.

The race at Infeneon was about as good as they get. Recommend that you not waste your time watching any more NASCAR races.

[Bob Riebe]

I agree, but Kyle Busch was having a good run when he was taking out by Kesolowski and Montoya's little fued. I'm all for paybacks as long as nobody else gets taken out in them. Like Tony for example, why would he take out 3-4 cars just to dump Vickers? Stupid is what it is.

Why, back when they ran Riversied (admittedly a larger, wider, fater and much better track) did one not read in[i]Autoweek & Competition Press) about payback, demo derby etc., etc., etc.

One would read about some drver spinning out because they either pushed too hard, or were not comfortable with a road course yet, but this supposed "normal" demo-derby rank amateur asininity was not the norm.

They also had cars which were five hundred pounds heavier; therefore being much hard to push hard, and while they had open choice for tires, the compounds then were not near as good as now.

USAC stock-cars, which were just as good as NASCAR's, ran far more road races and the supposedly "accepted" crash fest never seemed to show up.