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daz90
8th December 2006, 23:07
We have a thread for touring cars, might aswell have one for F1 models too. Its probably been done before, but this is a new chapter for the forum :)


My 1/43 F1 model list, to date.

1990. Benetton Ford B190, Piquet (onyx)
1991. Benetton Ford B191, Piquet (onyx)
1991. Ferrari 643 F1-91, Alain Prost (onyx)
1992. Benetton B192, M Schumacher (onyx)
1992. Williams Renault Fw14B, Patresse (kyosho)
1994. Jordan 194 sasol, Irvine (onyx)
1994. Williams Renualt FW16, Hill (onyx)
1994. Benetton Ford B194, Schumacher
1994. Sauber Mercedes C 13, H.H.Frentzen
1995. Ferrari 412 T2, Gerhard Berger (onyx)
1995. Footwork Arrows Hart FA16, Inoue (onyx)
1995. Benetton Renault B195, Schumacher (minichamps)
1995. Minardi Ford M195B, Tarso Marques (onyx)
1995. Jordan Peugeot EJR 195, Irvine (Minichamps)
1996. Arrows Yamaha FA 18, Hill (Minichamps)
1996. Forti Ford FG03, Montermini (onyx)
1996. Williams Renault FW18, car no 6 French GP (onyx)
1996. Tyrell Yamaha 024, Katayama (onyx)
1996. Forti ford FG03-96 (yellow) Montermini (onyx)
1996. Williams Renault FW19, German Driver (Frentzen) (minchamps)
1996. Mclaren MP4 -11, Mika Hakkinen (minichamps)
1997. Sauber Petronas, Herbert (onyx)
1997. Williams FW20 Mecachrome, Villeneuve (minichamps)
1997. Benetton Renault B 197, J Alesi (minichamps)
1998. Jordan Mugen Honda 198, Damon Hill (minichamps)
1998. Benetton Playlife B198, Fisichella (minichamps)
1998. Ferrari F300, Schumacher (minichamps)
1999. Williams Supertec FW21, A Zanardi (minchamps)
2000. Mclaren MP4 -15, Mika Hakkinen (hotwheels)
2000. Williams FW21, Ralf Schumacher (minichamps)
2000. Arrows Supertec A21, Jos Verstappen (Minichamps)
2001. Jaguar R2, Irvine (hotwheels)
2003. Panasonic Toyota TF103, Olivier Panis (minichamps)

PSfan
8th December 2006, 23:24
Cool thread, I had thought about starting one, but thought I would wait awhile cause I had already started a couple (didn't want to look like I was flooding the new board...)

Anyway, I just got my first minichamps 1/43 scale on friday, and man is it cute... :)

Die Cast

1999 Prost O. Panis (minichamps 1/43)
2000 Mcleran Mika Hakkinen (Hot wheels 1/18 or 1/24)
2001 Williams Ralph Schumacher (Hot Wheels 1/18 or 1/24)

plastic models

1997 Williams Jacques Villeneuve x3(Revell 1/24)

3d Puzzle

1999 Williams FW21 x2

And my favorite f1 car on my shelf

1996 Williams FW18 (1/10th Tamiya F103 RC)

daz90
8th December 2006, 23:37
My own collection goes beyond F1 too, BTCC and various touring cars are my main passion, but i always have my eye out for a bargain 1/43 scale F1 car, although i tend to buy only the cars that appeal to me, or the rarer ones like the 95 Jordon.

Oh, and i only ever buy 1/43 scale, i would never have room for anything bigger :)

Powered by Cosworth
8th December 2006, 23:43
What are the Prices on Schumacher Minichamp B194s like these days?

I know a few years ago when I bought mine it cost something like 100 quid, but it was the only B194 I could get. I wanted it to get signed, and is a prized possesion now :D

daz90
8th December 2006, 23:51
I bought mine years ago, it didn't cost me anything like a 100 quid though, then again its not signed. Without looking on eBay its hard to say what they are fetching now.

ChrisS
9th December 2006, 01:06
I collect F1 cars, GP bikes and Superbikes and also have some Le Mans cars and rally cars and road cars.

I have all Williams F1 cars from 1991 up to today in 1:18 and several other F1 cars mostly from the 1990s overall I think I have about 30 F1 cars all 1:18, I also have the Senna helmet collection by Minichamp 1:8

At the moment most of them are at in their boxes stored at my parents house but I’m planning to have a room at my place dedicated to them, hopefully I will get it done during xmas

Hawkmoon
9th December 2006, 04:22
I have a goal in life to collect every F1 Ferrari that has ever raced in 1:43. I've got something like 20-25%. I will probably never get them all as I have neither the space nor the money. Not to mention a wife that can't understand what I see in "toy" cars. :D

wmcot
9th December 2006, 07:45
I'm glad to see this thread! I have about 200 models in 1:43rd scale (much easier to display and store.) I am also trying to get a full F1 Ferrari collection which should be easier now that IXO is producing the La Storia models of all the years Ferrari has been in F1. I have several BBR Ferraris from 1997 to 2006 (soon).

I also have a few CanAm models (McLarens and Chaparrals) as well as some of the newer LeMans/ALMS models including the Penske Porsche RS Spyder which I had the 4 team drivers autograph athe the Utah GP ALMS race this past July. I was also able to get Alan McNish and Mika Salo to autograph two older F1 Toyota models at the same event. (It's amazing how many drivers with some F1 in their background are in ALMS.) With a little luck, I'll get some more in 2007.

I generally collect Ferraris and any unique F1 car as well as those of teams or drivers I like.

I also have a few Ayrton Senna models including the Minichamps boxed set of his first win and his last win.

Dazz9908
10th December 2006, 01:44
I have Tamiya 1/20 scale Models Grand Prix Collection,
I have constructed and painted myself
Benetton-Ford B188
Benetton-Ford B192
Brabham-BMW BT50
Ferrari 312 T2
Ferrari F189
Ferrari F189 Portuguese
Ferrari F310B
Ferrari F1-2000
Honda F1 RA272
Jordan-Ford 191
Ligier-Ford Ford Cosworth JS11
Lotus 25 -Coventry Climax
Lotus 78 -Ford Cosworth
Lotus 99T -Honda
Lotus 102B -Judd
Lotus 107 -Ford
Lotus 107B -Ford
Leyton House March-Judd CG891
McLaren-Honda MP4/4
McLaren-Honda MP4/5
McLaren-Ford MP4/8
Renault RE30B
Tyrrell-Ford Cosworth P34
Tyrrell-Honda 020
Tyrrell-Yamaha 023
Williams-Ford Cosworth FW07
Williams-Honda FW11
Williams-Renault FW13
Williams-BMW FW24

Also a Tamiya 1/12 scale of a Ferrari 312 T3

I starting to run out of space in my display cabinet :)
I try to keep up to date with the lastest models. I did miss the Tamiya McLaren-Mercedes Mp4/13 out for a very short time as McLaren with drew it's contract rights. :(

codalunga
10th December 2006, 06:42
I did miss the Tamiya McLaren-Mercedes Mp4/13 out for a very short time as McLaren with drew it's contract rights. :(

All indications were it was Tamiya's decision to drop the earlier kits after a riff with McLaren (Ferrari did recind their licensing at one time). They later reissued the MP4/4 through MP4/8s and issued the then new MP4/13, of which I've always found to be available. Still hoping they reissued the M23s with a different livery, as they recently did with the Tyrrell six wheeler.

I buy and build only what appeals to me and I rarely buy diecasts for F1 subjects. I've accumulated lots of F1 in 1/20 and quite a few in 1/12. Last year I got the Revell Germany 1/12 F2002 and 126C (ex-Protar). Also have a 1/8 scale McLaren M23. Have passed on a couple of the 1/8 Lotus 72s.

Quite a bit of superdetail stuff still coming out for the 1/12 kits. Master modeler Andy Mathews did a book on building the FW14 and has books on the MP4/6 ad Ferrari 640/641 due next year http://www.clearviewf1.com/

Quite a bit on F1 modeling in the archives at http://www.modelersite.com/

MikeWRC
10th December 2006, 13:16
This is possibly verging a little bit OT but this seems as good of forum/thread as any to ask this.

I've received 300 (about $580/450) as an award/prize with which I would like to buy myself a keepsake. As a motorsport fan, I thought a decent diecast model would be a good thing to buy. I'm currently thinking about a Ferrari F1 model as I think that might be a bit more timeless than a WRC model (my other motorsport love.)

As much as collecting models is great, it's not really what I'm looking to do at the moment. What I want is a reasonably large scale model (something like 1:12 or even bigger) that would make a great display piece on its own. I'm not worried about limited editions or the model being signed, I just want something that looks good.

So far, I'm stuggling to find anything around about 300 that is bigger than 1:18. It seems standard 1:18 are less than 100 with there being more expensive ones that are limited editions and/or signed. Anything above 1:18 scale seems to jump in price into the 1000s. I've seen some nice larger scale road cars for the sort of money but no F1 cars.

So my question is, are there decent larger scale F1 models out there that are around about 300? I'll happily add some of my own money to the 300 (say, to a total of around about 500) but I don't want to add too much as the whole point of the model is that it's a keepsake for the award I won.
If there is anything, any pointers on where to look would be much appreciated.

Scuderia ferrari
17th December 2006, 18:20
I mean centimetres, because my f1 race car collection is a bit depleated:
3 ferraris- diffrent years.
1 mclaren
1 jordan
1 williams
1 renualt.

ioan
17th December 2006, 18:44
I mean centimetres,...

Easy, every one centimeter, or inch for that matter, of the modell corresponds to 43 of them on the real car.
So you look up the size of the car you want to buy a modell and devide it by 43.

That's all!

Scuderia ferrari
17th December 2006, 19:14
Easy, every one centimeter, or inch for that matter, of the modell corresponds to 43 of them on the real car.
So you look up the size of the car you want to buy a modell and devide it by 43.

That's all!



What?! I'm not in the top maths set at school you know- just tell me please, cos i'm desprate!

ioan
17th December 2006, 21:24
What?! I'm not in the top maths set at school you know- just tell me please, cos i'm desprate!

Depends on the full scale model's size!
You search for the size (i.e. length) of the real car and you devide it by 43 (or whatever the scale of the model you want is).

If it doesn't work out, just post the dreal dimensions of the car and someone around here will do the maths.

schmenke
18th December 2006, 17:47
... Not to mention a wife that can't understand what I see in "toy" cars. :D

I know exactly what you mean Hawkmoon :D

My collection consists of about 70 die-cast models, mostly F1 in 1/43 scale.

A few of my favourites:
1/43 Jacques Villeneuve 1995 Indy championship
1/43 Gilles Villeneuve 1982 Ferrari 126
1/18 Hakkinen 1998 McLaren "Team West" edition
1/18 Senna 1985 Lotus 97T "John Player Special" livery (gorgeous model :up: )

schmenke
18th December 2006, 17:50
I mean centimetres, because my f1 race car collection is a bit depleated:
3 ferraris- diffrent years.
1 mclaren
1 jordan
1 williams
1 renualt.

A typical F1 model in 1/43 scale measures about 10cms long :)

schmenke
18th December 2006, 17:58
This is possibly verging a little bit OT but this seems as good of forum/thread as any to ask this.

I've received 300 (about $580/450) as an award/prize with which I would like to buy myself a keepsake. As a motorsport fan, I thought a decent diecast model would be a good thing to buy. I'm currently thinking about a Ferrari F1 model as I think that might be a bit more timeless than a WRC model (my other motorsport love.)

As much as collecting models is great, it's not really what I'm looking to do at the moment. What I want is a reasonably large scale model (something like 1:12 or even bigger) that would make a great display piece on its own. I'm not worried about limited editions or the model being signed, I just want something that looks good.

So far, I'm stuggling to find anything around about 300 that is bigger than 1:18. It seems standard 1:18 are less than 100 with there being more expensive ones that are limited editions and/or signed. Anything above 1:18 scale seems to jump in price into the 1000s. I've seen some nice larger scale road cars for the sort of money but no F1 cars.

So my question is, are there decent larger scale F1 models out there that are around about 300? I'll happily add some of my own money to the 300 (say, to a total of around about 500) but I don't want to add too much as the whole point of the model is that it's a keepsake for the award I won.
If there is anything, any pointers on where to look would be much appreciated.

MikeWRC,

Most F1 die cast models are available in either 1/43 or 1/18 scale. Finding models larger than 1/18 scale is difficult because these are non-standard scales. I'm sure if you do some patient googling you'll find models in 1/12 scale, but your selection will be limited.

But feel free to send me your 300, and I'll be more than happy to spend it for you ;) (heck, I know of some 1/43 scale models that cost more than that :mark: :D )

Scuderia ferrari
18th December 2006, 21:55
A typical F1 model in 1/43 scale measures about 10cms long :)

'kay, thanks.

Hmm, the mini champs BMW is very tempting, and maybe the ferrari 2006 as well, hmmm.

Time to start counting my pennies i think!

codalunga
18th December 2006, 22:09
MikeWRC,

Most F1 die cast models are available in either 1/43 or 1/18 scale. Finding models larger than 1/18 scale is difficult because these are non-standard scales. I'm sure if you do some patient googling you'll find models in 1/12 scale, but your selection will be limited.


Depends if you are a "builder" or merely a "buyer".... In the model world 1/18 is an odd scale. Its only common in diecasts. For me, limited selection is a good thing, as one can spend a fortune once one enters the dark side (1/43 and 1/12 resin)

Was at a model shop named Formula One in Toronto many years ago and think Adam had something like 42 1/12 scale (built from plastic kit) F1 cars on shelves behind his desk, and a few more have been done since then. Revell Germany, Heller, Protar, Tamiya, Bandai and others have done F1 in 1/12.

The most recent is the prepainted Revell Germany 1/12 scale Ferrari F2002 for about $75 with a super detail set available for about $200 more. There are other goodies for it like aftermarket decals, CF decals, and billet milled aluminum wheels.

As for even larger- I'm sure I saw several contemporary built up limited production 1/12 and even some 1/8ths in the vendor tents at the 2000 USGP, and of course Dave Despain has that huge Ferrari F1 car on his desk from time to time, sometimes with his bobble head in it! Looks like its maybe the size of my M23 (1/8 scale) but perhaps even 1/6th. For the brave there has been a ton of 1/12 resin kits in the past several years- F1 cars, 917 longtails, Ferrari TRs, 512s, etc. The most memorable model at the IPMS Nationas last summer was a mostly scratchbuilt 1/8th scale Ferrari 126C based on a $4300 kit...

For more model info:

Some breathtaking stuff at:
http://www.modelmotorcars.com/sGallery_02.htm

Check the archives and pdf reference selection at:
http://www.modelersite.com/

Check out http://www.gpma.org and their accompaning yahoogroup.

Symbolic Motors currently has a ex-Berger Ferrari 640 (available as a 1/12 scale OOP Tamiya kit) for sale with lots of great reference pics: http://www.symbolicmotors.com/

There is a annual Ferrari memorabilia/literature swap meet at a Chicago Ferrari dealer at the end of March that also has a model show. Hope to make it this year.

Cozzie
19th December 2006, 05:18
I have a few F1 models,

1:43 Minichamps (all of which I am looking to sell)
1998 Benetton Wurz
1998 Minardi Nakano
1998 Stewart Magnussen
1997 or 1998 Prost Trulli
1998 Arrows Salo
1998 Ferrari Irvine
1998 Tyrell Rosse
1999 Sauber Alesi

1:18 Quartzo
1968 Jim Clark South African GP Lotus
1969 Graham Hill Monaco GP Lotus

1:18 Minichamps (all except Alonso I am also looking to sell)
2003 1st win Alonso Renault
2002 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren
2002 Ralf Schumacher Williams
2002 Jarno Trulli Renault (Universal Hobbies)

schmenke
19th December 2006, 15:04
I have a few F1 models,

1:43 Minichamps (all of which I am looking to sell)...

Good luck! :p :

Cozzie
20th December 2006, 05:13
Good luck! :p :

Yeah I guess I only want about $10 each for them though. :(

Schnell
29th December 2006, 23:34
Hey! What a cool off season thread...seems a bit odd writing this...but I'm sure I'm amongst friends here. When Ant was 6 or 7 years old, I always bought him model F1 cars, that I'd secretly liked myself! He often spent hours setting them up on the dinning room table, using coasters, lids and all manner of objects as sections of tracks. He would study the cars from all angles, contemplating moves, like it was a chess game!

It never occurred to any of us that one day there would be models of him in these cars, let alone actually driving the real things!

Now today in his office he has a display cabinet full of them (1/43rd Minichamps), often given as gifts by fans (especially in Japan) which have been individually converted to the various special liveries that B.A.R. and the Honda team have adorned his practice cars with at the differant GP's. Indeed I have had a few converted over the years for him, F1 test cars, his Carlin F3 car, the Prodrive Ferrari 550 Maranello etc. To do the heads, one has to buy other models of him and do head swaps, which has left me with loads of headless models! Recently I outbid other bidders on ebay for the rare Michael Schumacher collection Minichamp Go-Karts so they could be converted into Ants various junior and senior championship karts.

He doesn't get time to play with them these days, but then the lucky git gets to play with the full scale ones!

codalunga
30th December 2006, 02:20
I mentioned some very large scale replicas a few weeks ago. I came a across a lengthy selection a few days ago but forgot to save the URL. Here are a few pages with some highly detailed 1/4 to 1/8 scale Ferraris, so you can see they do exist.

http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/pages/default.asp?mt=Exact&keywords=Ferrari&cid=880

http://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/copy_of_Large_Scale_1_5_and_1_8.html

PSfan
1st January 2007, 06:46
So Christmas has just come and gone, has anyone else's die-cast collection gotten bigger during the Holidays? I managed to increase my minichamps from 1 to 5 (99 JV BAR test car, JV BAR 03, G. Bruni 2004 Minardi show car, and a Fisi 2005 Renault)

I also picked myself up a 1/18th Hotwheels limited edition Micheal Schumacher 2003 world champion edition. (I later went on ebay and found them selling for 4x what I paid for this one )

daz90
1st January 2007, 11:57
Yes, i have added a 2004 BAR Honda, Jenson Button.

Infact if i am honest its been an expensive week or so on eBay.

real_illusions
1st January 2007, 12:26
the schumacher models (especially limited editions) are going crazy

i currently have the following:

1/43
1994 champion edition schumacher benetton
1998 black ferrari test car (i've seen the 1:18 scale go for over 100 on ebay)
2000 jenson button williams
2001 kimi raikkonen sauber
2005 gary paffet dtm car, signed.

1/24
1994 australian gp shumacher benetton

1/18
schumacher champions - 2001,2002,2003 and 2004 (the 2002 is the 5 time champ edition)
2004 schumacher ferrari with marlboro sponsoring
2004 schumacher - king of the desert bahrain
2006 - 66 pole positions
2006 - schumacher presentation with his career stats
1994 aryton senna williams
2003 jean alesi dtm
nissan skyline r34 gtr
2005 aston martoing dbr9 le mans
2003 winning bentley, signed by all 3 drivers.


i'm quite impresed, by i know someone who has all of schumacher's cars, including 1:18 scale black ferrari and his 1991 jordan in 1:18 scale.

daz90
5th January 2007, 16:44
Yes, i have added a 2004 BAR Honda, Jenson Button.

Infact if i am honest its been an expensive week or so on eBay.



Two new additions to my collection. The Jenson Button 2004 BAR arrived today, also a Stewart Ford SF 1, Barrichello, both Minichamps, and both 1/43 scale.

schmenke
5th January 2007, 17:05
Tobacco or no tobacco?

I try as much as possible to purchase models with full tobacco livery. The few in my collection that are not with tobacco livery just seem "naked" :mark: .

I know that after-market decal sets are available for purchase but I've never tried to convert a model with these. Has anyone here tried? Is it difficult? Seems to me that you'd need a steady hand, especially with the 1/43 scale models.

daz90
5th January 2007, 17:30
No neither have Tobacco sponsorship on them. To be honest i have never even thought about this before, i just buy F1 cars because i like the paint schemes, unlike my BTCC collection. I have wanted the Stewart for years, like i also want a 96 Jordan, both is down to the paint schemes as much as the driver or car.

As for adding decals, i have never done that myself, not on a diecast model, but i am sure it would be easy enough, i beleive the decals are exactly the same as Airfix kits for example, put the desired decall into warm water and apply with tweezers, easy enough.

I thought about this tobacco thing for a second and just had a look at my collection, not one of them has any tobacco sponsorship on them, the Williams Renaults in particular do look 'naked' without the old Rothmans sponsorship. I feel cheated now :)

schmenke
5th January 2007, 17:38
...As for adding decals, i have never done that myself, not on a diecast model, but i am sure it would be easy enough, i beleive the decals are exactly the same as Airfix kits for example, put the desired decall into warm water and apply with tweezers, easy enough....

Yeah that's what I figured, but some of the decals on a 1/43 model can be fairly small. I've seen some models where the tobacco decal has even been applied to the driver's suit and/or helmet :s hock:

codalunga
5th January 2007, 21:59
I thought about this tobacco thing for a second and just had a look at my collection, not one of them has any tobacco sponsorship on them, the Williams Renaults in particular do look 'naked' without the old Rothmans sponsorship. I feel cheated now :)

The tobacco issue comes up a lot in the plastic kit modeling world too, but F1 has had several "smoke free" races for quite a while where alternate or deleated markings are run so they may look strange but at least they aren't wrong! I thought Jordan did it best, where they had desirable alternate schemes like Bitten N Hisses and Buzzin' Hornets.

One of the more interesting aftermarket sheets I came across was to make the Monaco "Star Wars" Red Bull car out of the 1/18 scale diecast.

wmcot
6th January 2007, 08:41
Yeah that's what I figured, but some of the decals on a 1/43 model can be fairly small. I've seen some models where the tobacco decal has even been applied to the driver's suit and/or helmet :s hock:

I've converted a few and it helps to have small tweezers, a fine pointed paint brush (to maneuver the decal around) and a magnifier lamp. It's not too tough once you get the hang of it. The difficult models are those that need to have logos removed first like the Marlboro "piano keys" or Ferrari white engine covers, etc. If you mess that up, you could be out $250.00 on a BBR model.

daz90
2nd March 2007, 19:49
Added, well an updated few to my list.

1992. Williams Renault FW 15 C, Damon Hill (Onyx)
1996. Jordan Puegoet 196, Martin Brundle (Minichamps)

PSfan
3rd March 2007, 02:37
To do the heads, one has to buy other models of him and do head swaps, which has left me with loads of headless models! Recently I outbid other bidders on ebay for the rare Michael Schumacher collection Minichamp Go-Karts so they could be converted into Ants various junior and senior championship karts.


Wow, I imagine you'll will be decapitating alot of Micheal Schumachers then... just curious what you do with the heads of the other drivers once your done with them... :p :

ioan
22nd March 2007, 17:05
I've just finished my first ever model of an F1 car, the Ferrari F1-2000 (1/20) from Tamiya.
The decals are by far the most challenging thing on these models.

I'm thinking about applying clear lack on it, but not sure about the result, could someone tell me if it's worth?

Now I'll take on the next one, Auto Union Type D (1/32 Revell), looks like a very difficult one to me.

next on the list

Dazz9908
23rd March 2007, 04:59
I've just finished my first ever model of an F1 car, the Ferrari F1-2000 (1/20) from Tamiya.
The decals are by far the most challenging thing on these models.

I'm thinking about applying clear lack on it, but not sure about the result, could someone tell me if it's worth?

Now I'll take on the next one, Auto Union Type D (1/32 Revell), looks like a very difficult one to me.

next on the list
A Clear coat looks good but If you are using Tamiya Gloss Clear, don't use it over the Decals, apply it first, before the decals, if you do it over the top of the decals they will crack up in time (spider web look- you 'll cry).
I recommend Microscale -Micro Gloss, It's safe to paint over the decals and non yellows. I've had models for over 10yrs and look as good as the day I finish them.
I did one before In Tamiya Gloss Clear and the decals cracked and yellowed in time as described above. I since re-made this model.

ioan
23rd March 2007, 07:54
A Clear coat looks good but If you are using Tamiya Gloss Clear, don't use it over the Decals, apply it first, before the decals, if you do it over the top of the decals they will crack up in time (spider web look- you 'll cry).
I recommend Microscale -Micro Gloss, It's safe to paint over the decals and non yellows. I've had models for over 10yrs and look as good as the day I finish them.
I did one before In Tamiya Gloss Clear and the decals cracked and yellowed in time as described above. I since re-made this model.

Thanks for the advice! It's good to have first hand info about this kind of things.

I'm actually thinking to use an universal water based acrylic clear lack I use for all kind of other things.

daz90
23rd March 2007, 18:13
I recommend Microscale -Micro Gloss, It's safe to paint over the decals and non yellows. I've had models for over 10yrs and look as good as the day I finish them.


Could i ask where you might buy those from? i am on the look out for these items myself, but my local Model shop (Grantham) dont stock them, and a half hearted search on eBay didn't come up trumps either.

Have you ever heard of Micro - Sol and Micro - Set these are what have been recomended to me, and these are the two things i am on the look out for.

Dazz9908
23rd March 2007, 22:59
Could i ask where you might buy those from? i am on the look out for these items myself, but my local Model shop (Grantham) dont stock them, and a half hearted search on eBay didn't come up trumps either.

Have you ever heard of Micro - Sol and Micro - Set these are what have been recomended to me, and these are the two things i am on the look out for.

Try Hear, I'm on the lookout myself My Hobbie-shop just closed and No one else in my area sells it either.
http://www.microscale.com/

daz90
24th March 2007, 09:04
Cheers for the link.

I think the only way to buy these items is via mail order. No better way than a companys official web site too :)

codalunga
25th March 2007, 15:27
A Clear coat looks good but If you are using Tamiya Gloss Clear, don't use it over the Decals, apply it first, before the decals, if you do it over the top of the decals they will crack up in time (spider web look- you 'll cry).
I recommend Microscale -Micro Gloss, It's safe to paint over the decals and non yellows. I've had models for over 10yrs and look as good as the day I finish them.
I did one before In Tamiya Gloss Clear and the decals cracked and yellowed in time as described above. I since re-made this model.

Their acrylic gloss clear in little bottles or their acrylic laquer gloss in spray cans?

Most "hot" laquer will attack decals and needs to be applied with a couple dusting coats (light coats from a distance so it is mostly dry befor it hits) followed by a wet coat. Yellowing can happen with several types of white paint too.

ioan
3rd April 2007, 10:41
Help needed, I'm searching for good quality pictures of details of the F2000 Ferrari as I decided to further detail the engine, and the brakes.

Thanks in advance.

extrom fan
3rd April 2007, 18:26
1/18:

2001: Ralf Schumacher first win special edition (with hand raised) (Mattel)
2003: Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) (Mattel)
Mark Webber (Jaguar) (Mattel)
Christiano Da Matta (Toyota) (Minichamps)
2004: Jarno Trulli (Renault) (Mattel)
2005: Kimi Raikkonen (Mclaren) (Mattel)

1/43:

2003: Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari) (Mattel)
2004: Hungaroring twin pack special edition (Ferrari's) (Mattel)

extrom fan
7th April 2007, 07:35
Just bought a Tyrell of Mika Salo from '97 for 4.

PSfan
11th April 2007, 04:35
Just wanted to share my newest addition:

http://www.illucid.org/Upload/F2001.jpg

Its a Tamiya F201 chasis, since I'm not a huge fan of Ferrari, I will probably get a new body and do it up like something current if I can decide on a favorite team (if not then she becomes a sauber :p : )

Pic came from the ebay add I won it from, spare body that still needs the decals is MS's 911 inspired black nose, ran at indy. I'll get it in about two weeks but looking forward to playing with it :)

If I get good at it, I may follow Hamilton's lead and go from racing rc's to go karts to eventually race in F1 too :p :

schmenke
11th April 2007, 15:15
Just bought a Tyrell of Mika Salo from '97 for 4.

I have the same thing (Minichamps) that I purchased for about the same price :D

extrom fan
12th April 2007, 11:03
I got an onyx Williams of HHf from '97 and a '04 bruni minardi for 4 and 9.99 respectively.

ioan
12th April 2007, 13:22
I'm just placing the decals on a Tazio Nuvolari driven Auto Union Type D, 1/32 Revell kit (a real pain in the a$$). :D
But a nice car after all.

schmenke
12th April 2007, 15:06
I'm just placing the decals on a Tazio Nuvolari driven Auto Union Type D, 1/32 Revell kit (a real pain in the a$$). :D
But a nice car after all.

Sounds like an interesting model. Pics please when you're done :)

ioan
12th April 2007, 18:31
Pictures of the Auto Union Type D in 1/32 scale, kit by Revell (not great by any means).
The rear cower can be removed to showcase a somewhat detailed engine that gave me plenty of troubles because of it's height.
The front cover is also removable but there is little to see.

ioan
12th April 2007, 18:32
Further pics

ioan
12th April 2007, 18:33
Another one

ioan
12th April 2007, 18:35
Not the best quality pics but can't do better for the limited allowed size.

ioan
12th April 2007, 18:37
Suspension is pretty detailed but you can't see much of it after you put the bodywork on it.

ioan
25th April 2007, 15:44
I need some help with finding pictures, lots of them, of the 1990 Leyton House CG901. I'm planing to build it next starting with the Tamiya 1/20 scale kit and than maybe doing some extra detailing.

If any of you can help, it will be very appreciated!

schmenke
26th April 2007, 18:59
... kit by Revell (not great by any means). ..

It's been many years since I've built a plastic model, but from what I remember Revell kits often had poor-fitting parts.
Tamiya was just the opposoite... always good quality.

Thanks for the pics :)

f1icemen
26th April 2007, 20:14
i have a few not many

cant remember the years and such i have put them in the attic for now

dc williams helmet
ferrari barrichello helmet
ferrari irvine helmet
dc silver mac
black testing ferrari
Kimis 2001 sauber .. not letting go of that baby! :D
frentzens williams


my mom has plently of schumacher models :rolleyes:

ioan
27th April 2007, 10:25
i have a few not many

cant remember the years and such i have put them in the attic for now

dc williams helmet
ferrari barrichello helmet
ferrari irvine helmet
dc silver mac
black testing ferrari
Kimis 2001 sauber .. not letting go of that baby! :D
frentzens williams


my mom has plently of schumacher models :rolleyes:

Nice collection!
You also have a cool mom!
You mean she has Schumacher helmet models or driver models?

ioan
27th April 2007, 10:28
For those of you who are interested in F1 models there is a new 1/20 scale model being released by Fujimi in June:

G. Villeneuve's 1982 San Marino GP Ferrari 126C2

I already ordered mine!

codalunga
28th April 2007, 04:48
It's been many years since I've built a plastic model, but from what I remember Revell kits often had poor-fitting parts.
Tamiya was just the opposoite... always good quality.


Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!

ioan
30th April 2007, 11:57
Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!

The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).

codalunga
30th April 2007, 21:13
The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).

The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.

wmcot
1st May 2007, 09:09
Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.

ioan
1st May 2007, 15:01
The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.

The last times I saw the 1/12 Revell F2002 it was about 90 (117$), I've found it a bit expensive (without talking about the price of the needed upgrade kit).

One of the things I don't like with Revell is the fit of the parts.
But the most important turn off is the 1/24 scale.

I'm looking forward to the 250 GTO though, going by your opinion it will be quite a nice kit.

ioan
1st May 2007, 15:05
Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

They sure would look much better.
I guess that it's simply because they are simply targeting different clients and they also want to make sure that once you started with die casts (or 1/20 kits) you will stick to collecting them.

codalunga
2nd May 2007, 01:36
Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.

Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.

wmcot
2nd May 2007, 07:03
Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.

I guess I have always been picky about scale since I was a kid building plastic models. I used to buy 1/24 or 1/25 models for $2.00 a kit ($1.50 on sale!)

I must have a bit of OCD because I'm so picky about scale. For example, I started to buy BBR factory built 1/43 diecast Ferraris to replace my older (and cheaper) MiniChamps, Brumm, etc models and I noticed that some of the BBRs are a bit larger than their MiniChamps counterparts.

schmenke
2nd May 2007, 16:35
I've never purchased a BBR model. How is the quality comparted to Minichamps?

codalunga
2nd May 2007, 20:32
I'm looking forward to the 250 GTO though, going by your opinion it will be quite a nice kit.

Remember I said those contest winners were "based on" the Italeri kit. Most have Replica & Miniatures engines, photoetch, and aftermarket wheels.

ioan
3rd May 2007, 09:05
Remember I said those contest winners were "based on" the Italeri kit. Most have Replica & Miniatures engines, photoetch, and aftermarket wheels.

If the body proportions are good, not even perfect, than I'll be already pleased with it.
And I would be even surprised if there would be no need for aftermarket wheels on a Revell kit as their wheels and tires are usually poor quality.

Do you have some interesting info about the Audi R10 too? Is it a new all Revell kit?

f1icemen
3rd May 2007, 20:27
Nice collection!
You also have a cool mom!
You mean she has Schumacher helmet models or driver models?
Fortunately helmet models i dont think i could bear the thought of hundreds of schumacher lookalikes walking about the house :D

codalunga
3rd May 2007, 21:08
If the body proportions are good, not even perfect, than I'll be already pleased with it.
And I would be even surprised if there would be no need for aftermarket wheels on a Revell kit as their wheels and tires are usually poor quality.

Do you have some interesting info about the Audi R10 too? Is it a new all Revell kit?

Haven't had trouble with Revell tires but I build primarily their sportscars (Corvette racers, BMW Z8, Enzo, and others). Their 1/24 F1 kits were notoriously for their badly mishapen tires but they got retooled a few years ago when the did the Toyota and are said to be a vast improvement, with subsequent kits getting the new tires. I have heard some modelers say Revell doesn't spend as much on the F1 cars tooling as they don't sell as long or as well as many other releases, as they didn't use to be great efforts.

As far as the GTO, its a Italeri reissue and not of Revell origin. Fit and accuracy will have been up to Italeri and Revell will only be guilty for manufacturing quality issues. I should dig mine out...

There was a flurry of excitement over the R10 on some modeling boards with some pics of sprues a month or two ago. A Google search should bring them up. It is all new as there is nothing on it to borrow parts from!

ioan
4th May 2007, 11:07
There was a flurry of excitement over the R10 on some modeling boards with some pics of sprues a month or two ago. A Google search should bring them up. It is all new as there is nothing on it to borrow parts from!

Thanks for the info!

wmcot
5th May 2007, 09:13
I've never purchased a BBR model. How is the quality comparted to Minichamps?

Much better quality! Minichamps are not bad, but they are diecast bodies on a plastic chassis and sometimes the bodywork is not that great. BBR are hand built from diecast and photo-etched parts. Much greater detail - for example, I had a 1993 Ferrari F93 by Minichamps. The "fuel filler" was a decal. the cooling vents on the rear of the sidepods were decals. BBR has an actual chrome piece inserted in the body for the fuel filler and the sidepods have recessed, painted cooling vents.

The newer models are even better with all the aero wings, flipups, etc. They all fit nicely and are in the right places and to scale with BBR. BBR wheels even have "O-Z" on them! Paint is exactly the right shade and always high gloss. Decals are excellent, too!

wmcot
7th May 2007, 07:19
One other thing - BBR uses photo etched brass for the wings and aero flips which makes them much thinner looking and more realistic. Not to mention cockpit detail including racing harness.