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NinjaMaster

30th April 2011, 09:36

Jeepers, the first day has been and gone and we've not posted a thread on it!

Well, it's official - Casey Stoner and Valentino Rossi are at war! After a bit of a ceasefire for a while, both parties have been trading barbs at each other after FP2 and dislike seems to have descended into outright hatred of each other. It's a shame but makes things interesting!

MotoGP FP2 times:
1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA 1'37.663
2 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'37.724 0.061 0.061
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'37.727 0.064 0.003
4 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI 1'38.102 0.439 0.375
5 27 Casey STONER HONDA 1'38.102 0.439 0.000
6 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'38.203 0.540 0.101
7 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI 1'38.473 0.810 0.270
8 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA 1'38.563 0.900 0.090
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'38.596 0.933 0.033
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'38.611 0.948 0.015
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA 1'38.645 0.982 0.034
12 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'38.658 0.995 0.013
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 1'38.760 1.097 0.102
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'38.912 1.249 0.152
15 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI 1'39.021 1.358 0.109
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI 1'39.137 1.474 0.116
17 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI 1'40.173 2.510 1.036

And to spice things up not just slightly more, Stoner and Rossi finished on the exact same time! Also, Karel Abraham continues to impress me and prove himself early on in his MotoGP career.

Rod Richardson

1st May 2011, 00:38

QUALIFYING
MOTO GP
I wish the prima-donnas would just shut their mouths and get on with the racing.11Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo)SPAYamaha Factory RacingYamaha298.31'37.161
258Marco SIMONCELLI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marco+Simoncelli)ITASan Carlo Honda GresiniHonda305.31'37.2940.133 / 0.133326Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa)SPARepsol Honda TeamHonda302.11'37.3240.163 / 0.030427Casey STONER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Casey+Stoner)AUSRepsol Honda TeamHonda300.31'37.3840.223 / 0.060511Ben SPIES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Ben+Spies)USAYamaha Factory RacingYamaha307.31'37.8660.705 / 0.48264Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso)ITARepsol Honda TeamHonda298.81'38.0730.912 / 0.20775Colin EDWARDS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Colin+Edwards)USAMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha299.81'38.0800.919 / 0.007835Cal CRUTCHLOW (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Cal+Crutchlow)GBRMonster Yamaha Tech 3Yamaha298.81'38.1891.028 / 0.109946Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)ITADucati TeamDucati301.41'38.2711.110 / 0.082108Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Barbera)SPAMapfre Aspar Team MotoGPDucati292.41'38.3631.202 / 0.092117Hiroshi AOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hiroshi+Aoyama)JPNSan Carlo Honda GresiniHonda296.51'38.4971.336 / 0.1341217Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Karel+Abraham)CZECardion AB MotoracingDucati285.51'38.7861.625 / 0.2891369Nicky HAYDEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Nicky+Hayden)USADucati TeamDucati306.01'38.9221.761 / 0.1361465Loris CAPIROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Capirossi)ITAPramac Racing TeamDucati305.31'38.9341.773 / 0.0121519Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alvaro+Bautista)SPARizla Suzuki MotoGPSuzuki293.91'39.1722.011 / 0.2381614Randy DE PUNIET (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Randy+de+Puniet)FRAPramac Racing TeamDucati295.91'39.3782.217 / 0.2061724Toni ELIAS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Toni+Elias)SPALCR Honda MotoGPHonda307.91'39.8942.733 / 0.516MOTO 2

165Stefan BRADL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Stefan+Bradl)GERViessmann Kiefer RacingKalex270.91'41.591
212Thomas LUTHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Thomas+Luthi)SWIInterwetten Paddock Moto2Suter266.91'41.7540.163 / 0.163360Julian SIMON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Julian+Simon)SPAMapfre Aspar Team Moto2Suter268.91'41.9050.314 / 0.151493Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marc+Marquez)SPATeam CatalunyaCaixa RepsolSuter270.01'42.0730.482 / 0.168577Dominique AEGERTER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dominique+Aegerter)SWITechnomag-CIPSuter267.61'42.1430.552 / 0.070651Michele PIRRO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Michele+Pirro)ITAGresini Racing Moto2Moriwaki265.51'42.2190.628 / 0.076772Yuki TAKAHASHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Yuki+Takahashi)JPNGresini Racing Moto2Moriwaki269.31'42.2590.668 / 0.040854Kenan SOFUOGLU (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Kenan+Sofuoglu)TURTechnomag-CIPSuter265.51'42.3070.716 / 0.048916Jules CLUZEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jules+Cluzel)FRANGM Forward RacingSuter267.61'42.4000.809 / 0.0931044Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Pol+Espargaro)SPAHP Tuenti Speed UpFTR268.31'42.4560.865 / 0.0561140Aleix ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Aleix+Espargaro)SPAPons HP 40Pons Kalex268.51'42.4930.902 / 0.0371225Alex BALDOLINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+Baldolini)ITANGM Forward RacingSuter266.11'42.5460.955 / 0.0531345Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Scott+Redding)GBRMarc VDS Racing TeamSuter264.81'42.5630.972 / 0.0171429Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Iannone)ITASpeed MasterSuter270.61'42.5911.000 / 0.0281538Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Bradley+Smith)GBRTech 3 RacingTech 3267.71'42.7431.152 / 0.1521680Axel PONS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Axel+Pons)SPAPons HP 40Pons Kalex269.51'42.7461.155 / 0.003173Simone CORSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Simone+Corsi)ITAIoda Racing ProjectFTR268.61'42.8441.253 / 0.0981835Raffaele DE ROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Raffaele+de+Rosa)ITADesguaces La Torre G22Moriwaki266.01'42.9531.362 / 0.1091975Mattia PASINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mattia+Pasini)ITAIoda Racing ProjectFTR269.31'42.9961.405 / 0.0432088Ricard CARDUS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Ricard+Cardus)SPAQMMF Racing TeamMoriwaki269.11'43.0801.489 / 0.0842119Xavier SIMEON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Xavier+Simeon)BELTech 3 BTech 3265.71'43.1201.529 / 0.0402236Mika KALLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mika+Kallio)FINMarc VDS Racing TeamSuter268.51'43.1401.549 / 0.0202334Esteve RABAT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Esteve+Rabat)SPABlusens-STXFTR270.51'43.1891.598 / 0.0492414Ratthapark WILAIROT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Ratthapark+Wilairot)THAThai Honda Singha SAGFTR267.91'43.2861.695 / 0.097254Randy KRUMMENACHER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Randy+Krummenacher)SWIGP Team Switzerland Kiefer RacingKalex271.31'43.3461.755 / 0.0602663Mike DI MEGLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mike+Di+Meglio)FRATech 3 RacingTech 3268.01'43.3661.775 / 0.020279Kenny NOYES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Kenny+Noyes)USAAvintia-STXFTR267.41'43.3991.808 / 0.0332815Alex DE ANGELIS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+de+Angelis)RSMJIR Moto2Motobi264.81'43.4721.881 / 0.0732913Anthony WEST (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Anthony+West)AUSMZ Racing TeamMZ-RE Honda262.71'43.6602.069 / 0.1883071Claudio CORTI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Claudio+Corti)ITAItaltrans Racing TeamSuter264.31'43.6742.083 / 0.0143121Javier FORES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Javier+Fores)SPAMapfre Aspar Team Moto2Suter264.51'43.7102.119 / 0.0363253Valentin DEBISE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentin+Debise)FRASpeed UpFTR268.61'44.0102.419 / 0.3003368Yonny HERNANDEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Yonny+Hernandez)COLBlusens-STXFTR269.61'44.0902.499 / 0.0803464Santiago HERNANDEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Santiago+Hernandez)COLSAG TeamFTR267.51'44.3552.764 / 0.2653539Robertino PIETRI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Robertino+Pietri)VENItaltrans Racing TeamSuter263.61'44.8353.244 / 0.4803695Mashel AL NAIMI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mashel+Al+Naimi)QATQMMF Racing TeamMoriwaki265.81'45.1003.509 / 0.2653749Kev COGHLAN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Kev+Coghlan)GBRAeroport de CastelloFTR260.41'45.3803.789 / 0.2803897Steven ODENDAAL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Steven+Odendaal)RSAMS RacingSuter261.21'46.5554.964 / 1.175
1

Rod Richardson

1st May 2011, 00:49

Qualifying
MOTO GP.............I wish the prima-donnas would shut their mouths and get on with the racing and that their bitchy comments were not reported......

1Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo)Yamaha45[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
2Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa)Honda36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
3Casey STONER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Casey+Stoner)Honda25[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
4Nicky HAYDEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Nicky+Hayden)Ducati23[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
5Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)Ducati20[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
6Hiroshi AOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hiroshi+Aoyama)Honda19[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
7Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso)Honda17[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
8Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Barbera)Ducati14[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
9Cal CRUTCHLOW (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Cal+Crutchlow)Yamaha13[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
10 Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Karel+Abraham)Ducati12[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
Moto 2

1Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Iannone)Suter45[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
2Stefan BRADL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Stefan+Bradl)Kalex36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
3Thomas LUTHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Thomas+Luthi)Suter36[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
4Simone CORSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Simone+Corsi)FTR26[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
5Alex DE ANGELIS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+de+Angelis)Motobi22[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
6Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Bradley+Smith)Tech 320[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
7Julian SIMON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Julian+Simon)Suter16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
8 Michele PIRRO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Michele+Pirro)Moriwaki15[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
9Yuki TAKAHASHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Yuki+Takahashi)Moriwaki11[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
10 Jules CLUZEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jules+Cluzel)Suter9[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
125cc

1Nicolas TEROL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Nicolas+Terol)Aprilia50[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
2Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jonas+Folger)Aprilia31[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
3Sandro CORTESE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sandro+Cortese)Aprilia30[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
4Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Johann+Zarco)Derbi26[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
5Efren VAZQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Efren+Vazquez)Derbi20[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
6Sergio GADEA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sergio+Gadea)Aprilia16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
7Danny KENT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Danny+Kent)Aprilia16[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
8Taylor MACKENZIE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Taylor+Mackenzie)Aprilia11[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
9Hector FAUBEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Faubel)Aprilia10[/*:m:ay0bljuh]
10 Jakub KORNFEIL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jakub+Kornfeil)Aprilia9[/*:m:ay0bljuh]

.

TheFamousEccles

1st May 2011, 01:13

Qualifying
MOTO GP.............I wish the prima-donnas would shut their mouths and get on with the racing and that their bitchy comments were not reported......

.

Where are you getting your info, Rod? I've scoured the other motorsport sites that I read and can find no war of words...not even on crash.net which loves salacious gossip and misrepresentation :o

Ranger

1st May 2011, 02:05

Great qualifying session. I expect Simoncelli to win if he doesn't crash.

EDIT: The only war of words I can find is between Lorenzo and Simoncelli.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91029

Jorge Lorenzo vehemently criticised Marco Simoncelli in the post-qualifying press conference at Estoril this afternoon as the pair's dispute over riding ethics escalated.

MotoGP is good value both on and off the track this year. :D

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 05:08

Umm, Rod, they're the championship standings, not qualifying results... ;)

MotoGP Final Qualifying:
1 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'37.161
2 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA 1'37.294 0.133 0.133
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'37.324 0.163 0.030
4 27 Casey STONER HONDA 1'37.384 0.223 0.060
5 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA 1'37.866 0.705 0.482
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'38.073 0.912 0.207
7 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'38.080 0.919 0.007
8 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 1'38.189 1.028 0.109
9 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI 1'38.271 1.110 0.082
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'38.363 1.202 0.092
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA 1'38.497 1.336 0.134
12 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI 1'38.786 1.625 0.289
13 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'38.922 1.761 0.136
14 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI 1'38.934 1.773 0.012
15 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI 1'39.172 2.011 0.238
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI 1'39.378 2.217 0.206
17 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'39.894 2.733 0.516

Moto2 Final Qualifying:
1 65 Stefan BRADL KALEX 1'41.591
2 12 Thomas LUTHI SUTER 1'41.754 0.163 0.163
3 60 Julian SIMON SUTER 1'41.905 0.314 0.151
4 93 Marc MARQUEZ SUTER 1'42.073 0.482 0.168
5 77 Dominique AEGERTER SUTER 1'42.143 0.552 0.070
6 51 Michele PIRRO MORIWAKI 1'42.219 0.628 0.076
7 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI MORIWAKI 1'42.259 0.668 0.040
8 54 Kenan SOFUOGLU SUTER 1'42.307 0.716 0.048
9 16 Jules CLUZEL SUTER 1'42.400 0.809 0.093
10 44 Pol ESPARGARO FTR 1'42.456 0.865 0.056
11 40 Aleix ESPARGARO KALEX 1'42.493 0.902 0.037
12 25 Alex BALDOLINI SUTER 1'42.546 0.955 0.053
13 45 Scott REDDING SUTER 1'42.563 0.972 0.017
14 29 Andrea IANNONE SUTER 1'42.591 1.000 0.028
15 38 Bradley SMITH TECH 3 1'42.743 1.152 0.152
16 80 Axel PONS KALEX 1'42.746 1.155 0.003
17 3 Simone CORSI FTR 1'42.844 1.253 0.098
18 35 Raffaele DE ROSA MORIWAKI 1'42.953 1.362 0.109
19 75 Mattia PASINI FTR 1'42.996 1.405 0.043
20 88 Ricard CARDUS MORIWAKI 1'43.080 1.489 0.084
21 19 Xavier SIMEON TECH 3 1'43.120 1.529 0.040
22 36 Mika KALLIO SUTER 1'43.140 1.549 0.020
23 34 Esteve RABAT FTR 1'43.189 1.598 0.049
24 14 Ratthapark WILAIROT FTR 1'43.286 1.695 0.097
25 4 Randy KRUMMENACHER KALEX 1'43.346 1.755 0.060
26 63 Mike DI MEGLIO TECH 3 1'43.366 1.775 0.020
27 9 Kenny NOYES FTR 1'43.399 1.808 0.033
28 15 Alex DE ANGELIS MOTOBI 1'43.472 1.881 0.073
29 13 Anthony WEST IAMT 1'43.660 2.069 0.188
30 71 Claudio CORTI SUTER 1'43.674 2.083 0.014
31 21 Javier FORES SUTER 1'43.710 2.119 0.036
32 53 Valentin DEBISE FTR 1'44.010 2.419 0.300
33 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ FTR 1'44.090 2.499 0.080
34 64 Santiago HERNANDEZ FTR 1'44.355 2.764 0.265
35 39 Robertino PIETRI SUTER 1'44.835 3.244 0.480
36 95 Mashel AL NAIMI MORIWAKI 1'45.100 3.509 0.265
37 49 Kev COGHLAN FTR 1'45.380 3.789 0.280
38 97 Steven ODENDAAL SUTER 1'46.555 4.964 1.175
76 Max NEUKIRCHNER FTR
99 Lukasz WARGALA MORIWAKI

125cc Final Qualifying:
1 18 Nicolas TEROL APRILIA 1'46.556
2 11 Sandro CORTESE APRILIA 1'47.270 0.714 0.714
3 44 Miguel OLIVEIRA APRILIA 1'47.405 0.849 0.135
4 55 Hector FAUBEL APRILIA 1'47.600 1.044 0.195
5 23 Alberto MONCAYO APRILIA 1'47.750 1.194 0.150
6 5 Johann ZARCO DERBI 1'48.353 1.797 0.603
7 39 Luis SALOM APRILIA 1'48.498 1.942 0.145
8 94 Jonas FOLGER APRILIA 1'48.557 2.001 0.059
9 7 Efren VAZQUEZ DERBI 1'48.594 2.038 0.037
10 26 Adrian MARTIN APRILIA 1'48.639 2.083 0.045
11 25 Maverick VIÑALES APRILIA 1'48.673 2.117 0.034
12 33 Sergio GADEA APRILIA 1'48.936 2.380 0.263
13 96 Louis ROSSI APRILIA 1'48.959 2.403 0.023
14 15 Simone GROTZKYJ APRILIA 1'49.237 2.681 0.278
15 63 Zulfahmi KHAIRUDDIN DERBI 1'49.607 3.051 0.370
16 84 Jakub KORNFEIL APRILIA 1'49.638 3.082 0.031
17 21 Harry STAFFORD APRILIA 1'50.090 3.534 0.452
18 99 Danny WEBB MAHINDRA 1'50.167 3.611 0.077
19 31 Niklas AJO APRILIA 1'50.195 3.639 0.028
20 53 Jasper IWEMA APRILIA 1'50.197 3.641 0.002
21 76 Hiroki ONO KTM 1'50.433 3.877 0.236
22 3 Luigi MORCIANO APRILIA 1'50.559 4.003 0.126
23 52 Danny KENT APRILIA 1'50.587 4.031 0.028
24 30 Giulian PEDONE APRILIA 1'50.875 4.319 0.288
25 36 Joan PERELLO APRILIA 1'51.608 5.052 0.733
26 17 Taylor MACKENZIE APRILIA 1'51.803 5.247 0.195
27 77 Marcel SCHROTTER MAHINDRA 1'52.280 5.724 0.477
28 56 Peter SEBESTYEN KTM 1'53.508 6.952 1.228
29 43 Francesco MAURIELLO APRILIA 1'53.740 7.184 0.232
Not qualified (Out 107%) 1'54.014
86 Kevin HANUS HONDA 1'54.875 8.319 1.135
69 Sarath KUMAR APRILIA 1'55.530 8.974 0.655
19 Alessandro TONUCCI APRILIA

Rod Richardson

1st May 2011, 05:24

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 05:34

Great qualifying session. I expect Simoncelli to win if he doesn't crash.

EDIT: The only war of words I can find is between Lorenzo and Simoncelli.

Actually, Stoner and Rossi had a big spat on Friday too. From MotoMatters:

The incident that ended the uneasy peace was fairly trivial, which is fitting for epic conflicts such as this. Towards the end of the second session of free practice, Valentino Rossi eased off the throttle, allowing Casey Stoner to get past. Rossi says he backed off to take a breather, before putting his head down for a final attempt at setting a fast time; Stoner says Rossi was waiting for him to get a tow. Stoner says Rossi's so desperate for a fast lap he'll wait for a tow; Rossi says that this happens in every practice session, and if Stoner is sick of people getting tows he should go race on his own.

It went downhill from there: Stoner says the signal he gave to Rossi - tapping the rear of his bike - was intended as a call to heel, Rossi being "like a dog who follows you everywhere." Rossi in turn said that if spent his time tapping the seat hump of his bike every time someone followed him, he would have broken several hundred of them. Stoner reiterated his point that Rossi's crash at Jerez was a "rookie mistake", while Rossi launched into an invective against Stoner's claims about him.

"Stoner says a lot of things which aren't true," Rossi claimed. "He says I signed with Ducati because I was forced to, I had no other choice, because I cannot get the same money because of Lorenzo [Rossi's former teammate at Fiat Yamaha]. He speaks about my shoulder like he was the best shoulder doctor in Melbourne Hospital. But he doesn't know nothing," Rossi said. The reason for this was simple, Rossi explained. "He [Stoner] never got over losing at Laguna Seca."

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 05:55

Rod Richardson

1st May 2011, 09:31

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 11:03

Sharp comments are ok in my book and well chosen and appropriate (even abusive) words could have been used without degrading the guy's obvious talent. Not what I would have expected from Stoner. That being said, Stoner may well have been harbouring ill feeling over the Laguna Seca incident that influenced his comments.

My opinion is that Stoner remembers Rossi's ultimately hypocritical pre-season crticisms on national Italian tv which was the main fuel on the fire, which has since become a raging inferno. Hopefully both can be man enough to zip up the verbal and let their riding do the talking. Lorenzo's outburst appears pretty random. I can understand it if Simo just ran him off the track but Jorge just seems to be missing the attention I think.
Anyway, the warmups have been damp, hopefully the track is either dry or wet, not in between and we can see some cracking racing.

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 12:15

Well, that was the first Moto2 race I've seen for the year and - it seems nothing has changed since 2010! So many crashes by top contenders, it's a bit hard to believe though conditions did look slightly tricky. Bradl rode a masterful race really deserved the win, he's doing Helmut proud. Julian Simon also rode a smart race and his first race win must surely be just around the corner? And Yuki Takahashi, well, I don't think I can describe how pleased I am for him to get a poium on the back of his brothers tragic death - you did him proud Yuki. Then there was Crazy Joe, did such an awesome job picking his way through the pack, rode really smart only to make a small mistake with big consequences. Poor Scott Redding was a passenger in Marquez' mistake. I see the incident as similar to Josh Brookes taking out half the BSB field a couple of seasons ago where he lost control well before the corner and was just a random bowling ball.
Hope the weather stays stable for MotoGP.

Ranger

1st May 2011, 13:58

Great ride by Pedrosa, about as calculated as I've ever seen.

Shame Simoncelli crashed, the racing itself would probably have been a bit more interesting.

NinjaMaster

1st May 2011, 14:19

Brilliant by Dani, I didn't know if he'd be able to have a go. Jorge is proving why he's world champ, a strong and smart ride indeed. Nice to see Casey on the box and whilst I though Simo's move was a bit rough, I don't want to hear about it. Dovi, perfect timing?!

Rod Richardson

1st May 2011, 23:01

Lorenzo rode an excellent race with consistent lap times. Late braking and the stability of his bike kept him ahead of Pedrosa who was hanging onto Lorenzo's tail like a haemorrhoid until he seized the opportunity and went for it. Gutsy and brilliant effort by Pedrosa.

Stoner......After almost being spat off in the first minute of the race when his rear tyre spun up, he then had Simoncelli achieve his unbroken run of crashes ahead of him and was then looking good and was regaining lost ground at intermittent intervals before his back appears to have been giving him problems. Looked as though his spine was out of whack after the race.

Dovisioso ......Did well to hang onto Rossi and pip him for fourth spot on the line.

Spies.........Felt sorry for the poor bugger........Mechanics left a tool in place on his fuel overflow or similar that apparently affected the operation of his front brake..

Looking forward to the return of the 1000cc bike next season and hear there are to be 21 bikes on the grid.

larantuka

2nd May 2011, 11:19

Lorenzo rode an excellent race with consistent lap times. Late braking and the stability of his bike kept him ahead of Pedrosa who was hanging onto Lorenzo's tail like a haemorrhoid until he seized the opportunity and went for it. Gutsy and brilliant effort by Pedrosa.

:)

Yeah, Lorenzo rode relatively without mistakes, Pedrosa and the repsol were at their best combination although he took it too late, perhaps he must wait for the correct timing to make the move. As soon as he can take the lead he pulled away from the group and created more gaps in every lap. He proved me wrong in any chance they both are in a head to head battle Lorenzo is usually stronger. Hope that Pedrosa can keep the pace.

Ben Spies, besides the technical error, being DNFs consecutively in opening races doesn't seem good. Does he ride under pressure? I reckon he is one of riders who was capable of handling pressures. Hope that he can fix the problem before long in the next couple of races. Carl Curtchlow on the other hand has been riding promisingly this far.

I am evil Homer

3rd May 2011, 10:38

Spies had a tool attached to a pipe that compromised the brake lever. He got it off himself and then fluid leaked! Hardly his fault

ShiftingGears

3rd May 2011, 14:24

Brilliant by Dani, I didn't know if he'd be able to have a go.

Indeed, for some reason I just didn't expect a move like that from Dani, as opposed to if it were Valentino, for instance. Speaking of which, I would've liked to see Rossi and Dovisioso's battle at the flag before they cut away to Pedrosa crossing the finish line.

The Phantom

3rd May 2011, 22:39

Perceptions abound that Dani can't pass and can only win from the front... go watch the 2006 season review and you will see some brilliant passes from him (apart from the attempt that took Nicky out :) )

TheFamousEccles

4th May 2011, 03:32

Where am I getting my info?? It's an opinion based on what I believe were Stoner's unwarranted off-the-cuff comments to Rossi on the day in response to an incident where Rossi simply over-cooked it and was man enough to apologize whereas Lorenzo's criticism of Simoncelli's riding style also slots well into the prima-donna/bitchy category. ..

Sorry Rod, but I don't buy the Rossi apology - he had the (almost) entire media contingent in tow and apologised with his helmet on. That seems to me a little like apologising to your mum with your back turned and your hoodie up! I've seen more sincere apologies coming from politicians (ooh, thats a bit low, even for me :p )

Nevertheless, it makes for entertaining viewing and gives the more overwrought Rossi fan-kiddies (on some other sites, not this one) a focus for their feeling of impotence this season.

Great ride by the Pedrosa kiddie, very Doohan-esque.

Rod Richardson

4th May 2011, 06:46

Don't apologize for having a differing view. Rossi probably left the skid-lid on in case he copped a knuckle sandwich.

The Phantom

4th May 2011, 14:16

Don't apologize for having a differing view. Rossi probably left the skid-lid on in case he copped a knuckle sandwich.

Probably on the advice of the Aussies in his crew :D

vladut50

4th May 2011, 20:15

Great ride by Pedrosa. No one would have thought he could do it. Not in front of Lorenzo, not at Estoril, not in front of Stoner, not after a surgery, not in a 1000 years.....but he did it..

NinjaMaster

5th May 2011, 12:19

Hi vladut50, welcome to the forum! :wave:

Perceptions abound that Dani can't pass and can only win from the front... go watch the 2006 season review and you will see some brilliant passes from him (apart from the attempt that took Nicky out :) )

My doubts of Dani passing Lorenzo were more of his current physical condition than ability to make a pass. I still think he has the most raw speed of anyone on the grid.