Catalunya 2011

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Great job Juho. Champion from Finland!!

[Bobcat]

How long Latvala was stopped? I didn't see it, because stream was pretty laggy for me. Things are fckd up, both Citroën and Ford making team orders. But that's the way it has meant to play the game. I hope team orders are forbidden in 2012.
About 8s.

[dimviii]

How long Latvala was stopped? I didn't see it, because stream was pretty laggy for me. Things are fckd up, both Citroën and Ford making team orders. But that's the way it has meant to play the game. I hope team orders are forbidden in 2012.

He slowed down near the finish,and making slaloms!!!! lololololol

[Hartusvuori]

Onnea Juho! It was well-deserved win! Even if we didn't get the battle in Catalunya, looking at the whole season, it was right man that won and most importantly we didn't get weak SWRC champion like last season. Now if he could take double title in Cyprus... Also, considering SWRC, very worthy season for Ott. I have my fingers crossed that he could take those steps to became a true rallying hero.

[dimviii]

Why didn't Jari go for the third place?
Maybe he thought Loeb couldn t pass Mikko. Maybe not ''thought'' but Malcolm orders.

[dimviii]

Loeb in 4,32 km take 5,8 sec from Mikko= 1,34 per km both on hard tyres.......

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy power-stage... wtf is going on with those times ???


1.52K. MEEKE2:45.70.00.0

2.37D. SORDO2:45.9+0.2+0.2

3.1S. LOEB2:50.6+4.7+4.9

4.12D. OLIVEIRA2:53.7+3.1+8.0

5.25J. HÄNNINEN2:54.6+0.9+8.9

6.3M. HIRVONEN2:56.4+1.8+10.7

7.14P. VAN MERKSTEIJN2:56.9+0.5+11.2

8.6M. ØSTBERG2:57.2+0.3+11.5

9.26K. KRUUDA2:58.0+0.8+12.3

10.4J. LATVALA2:58.1+0.1+12.4

[N.O.T]

different tyres...also the stage is drying...

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Loeb just 4sec faster than Hänninen. Loeb got real WRC and Hänninen just S2000.

[Francis44]

Loeb just 4sec faster than Hänninen. Loeb got real WRC and Hänninen just S2000.

Perhaps different tyres and stage much less wet.

[tfp]

Loeb just 4sec faster than Hänninen. Loeb got real WRC and Hänninen just S2000.

Hanninen, future champion?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Perhaps different tyres and stage much less wet.

Maybe and different drivers!

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Hanninen, future champion?

Hänninen is CHAMPION!!!

[tfp]

Hänninen is CHAMPION!!!

I meant WRC champion :D
For VW?

[N.O.T]

Great win for Hanninen....

lets hope he can make it 2 championships in 1 year with the IRC one as well...

[dimviii]

Loeb just 4sec faster than Hänninen. Loeb got real WRC and Hänninen just S2000.

Mikko was 1,8 slower,didn t noticed it?

[N.O.T]

why you bother ??

[dimviii]

why you bother ??

To help him,maybe didn t noticed it.

[dimviii]

Congrats to Loeb for a faultless rally.Controlled the rally for 2 days,and at the power stage erase the doubts about his speed,when not cruising.
Congrats to Juho for the championship,and hope to repeat it at few days.Well deserved.
Dissapointments were Novikov, seems that Fiesta wasn t his problem at previous rallies.
Wilson no comment.
Araujo as above
Ostberg not progress at all.
About minis...not bad,but not good.Richards tricks with soft tyres worked in powerstage,but binned all the today stages.Good marketing trick for publicity though.They need a lot of work even on asphalt.Ford with Latvala easy faster than them.About citroen is stupid to compare.
Lemes had a good pace and inside the road,but still can t understant how these choices will help vw when chasing Citroens.
Roll on Wales for a grand finale.

[MartijnS]

Selection of photos of the last 2 days online at http://facebook.com/rallymedia :)
Back on the plane home in 4 hours!
We were at the place where Wilson crashed, hit a barrier with his left front wheel and ripped it off completely.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305385_173604969394147_102597653161546_372947_1862 917983_n.jpg

[wrc1600]

Selection of photos of the last 2 days online at http://facebook.com/rallymedia :)
Back on the plane home in 4 hours!
We were at the place where Wilson crashed, hit a barrier with his left front wheel and ripped it off completely.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305385_173604969394147_102597653161546_372947_1862 917983_n.jpg
great one

[Langdale Forest]

The Ford team should be refused to start in Wales for the attemps to make a paper champion, it's becoming a joke now.

[wwbroe]

Congratulations to Mr. Loeb for another well deserved victory, he was in control during the whole of the rally. Also a big congrats to Juho for taking the SWRC crown, hope he can maybe take another crown next week in Cyprus, alltough i prefer Loix to win that one. :D (being Belgian)
Good for the Mini's that they could take first two places in powerstage, alltough it was probably especially thanks to their tyres (soft compounds).
I feel pitty for Mikko, he really wasn't able to keep up with the pace and it is only thanks to his teammate that he still has some chance for the championship. It would be a paper champion but that is what you get with those teamorders. Also pitty once again for JML that he has to sacrifice another very good result because of Mr. Wilson. :(

[Barreis]

What will ford guys do on last race in GB, put nails on the road or park the bus infront of Loeb in the finish?! Saw on Sport1 interview with Nissen who said that four drivers are in for 2013 seat:P.Solberg, JML, Hirvonen and Ogier. Nothing new.

[N.O.T]

In Gb Loeb just has to finish 1 spot ahead of Hirvonen or one step below if Hirvonen fails to win...

he can do that with hands in pockets and with a blindfold...

But he can also retire since GB is unpredictable...

so we might have our first sick dog of nothing champion after around 20 years...

Lets hope at the end the champion is a worthy one so we can be proud of our sport.

[Barreis]

nothing on wrc.com about manu champions.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_567daa8 9ac.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_7a862e1 e50.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_1f2e636 796.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_7308c88 d07.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_baee567 18c.jpg

More photos from last DAY HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011)

[Bobcat]

What will ford guys do on last race in GB, put nails on the road or park the bus infront of Loeb in the finish?!
Great idea!

[Sladden]

In Gb Loeb just has to finish 1 spot ahead of Hirvonen or one step below if Hirvonen fails to win...

he can do that with hands in pockets and with a blindfold...

But he can also retire since GB is unpredictable...

so we might have our first sick dog of nothing champion after around 20 years...

Lets hope at the end the champion is a worthy one so we can be proud of our sport.

Agreed man! These games leave a bad taste in mouth.

It used to be controversial to do this..now its done in every rally.

Mikko should not be crowned the best rallydriver in the world...not this year! He has been the weakest of the factory drivers.

[focus206]

So, congratulations to the winners: Loeb, Citroen, Hanninen and Meeke for the power stage.
Seems Ford is closer than before to Citroen on asphalt, good rally by JML. Everything went good in Catalunya for Mikko, but his speed... :\
In GB it will be intersting, if Loeb doesn't mistake anything, and if nothing happen to the car, he is going to be the champion.

[dimviii]

i am curious to see what was the reason in failed engine of Ogiers ds3.

[White Sauron]

IMHO, we shouldn't blame Mikko. I have a strong feeling that he doesn't like the situation as it is either. Not sure he'd be proud of himself if he took the title, and perhaps deep inside his soul he's praying not to win it. But he's just a marketing tool in the hands of Mr.Wilson, who's paid (partially) and controlled by Ford. For them it's most important to stick a "championship winner" label to their car. To 95% of their customers it doesn't matter how this title was won - only the fact itself matters. I feel sorry for Mikko...

[dimviii]

IMHO, we shouldn't blame Mikko. I have a strong feeling that he doesn't like the situation as it is either. Not sure he'd be proud of himself if he took the title, and perhaps deep inside his soul he's praying not to win it. But he's just a marketing tool in the hands of Mr.Wilson, who's paid (partially) and controlled by Ford. For them it's most important to stick a "championship winner" label to their car. To 95% of their customers it doesn't matter how this title was won - only the fact itself matters. I feel sorry for Mikko...

Agree.
When we criticize(at least for me) we dont blame.We have to discuss about the sport we love.
On the other side is unfair for Loeb after this year,with x 3 ss wins than Mikko,with 6 wins,with speed to fight for win at all the rallies and surfaces, to don t take the crown.

[tfp]

Great idea!

:D Or they could tape up a shortcut on a roundabout and make the citroens go the long way around :laugh:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Pretty fast with photos from Podium here!

[dimviii]

Pretty fast with photos from Podium here!
Jafry is fastest photographer in the forum.usually 1-2 hours after finish.

@Jafry thanks a lot mate.

[N.O.T]

Great idea!

you have just been reported....you are a sick person.

[focus206]

you have just been reported....you are a sick person.

I think he was just joking.....

[dimviii]

more nice photos
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1241&fotograf=35&all=1

[tfp]

I think he was just joking.....

I think he was joking also...

[tfp]

more nice photos
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1241&fotograf=35&all=1

LOL at picture 105 :D

[Mintexmemory]

I think he was joking also...

Many a true word spoken in jest, look out for the Finnish guerillas in the forests (they are the guys in the white suits ;-) )

[tfp]

Many a true word spoken in jest, look out for the Finnish guerillas in the forests (they are the guys in the white suits ;-) )

:rotflmao:

[pino]

I think he was joking also...

Same here, so let's move on :)

[Langdale Forest]

If Hirvonen does become WRC champion this year, he will probably be the most unworthy paper champion ever, prehaps the FIA should stop team bosses from forcing drivers to check into time controlls early to swap positions.

[bunnings]

6Ae9irem2ps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ae9irem2ps

[Barreis]

http://www.rallypulse.com/

[Bobcat]

:D Or they could tape up a shortcut on a roundabout and make the citroens go the long way around :laugh:
Yeah, or a big stone like Latvala got the gift in Argentina... http://wrc.com/video/browse-all/argentina-2011-the-moment-latvala-lost-the-lead/?vid=2159&pg=10&srch_season=&srch_rallyid=&srch_teamid=-1&srch_driverid=-1

[dimviii]

Mini are running a very aggressive anti lag program on their engines to the point that it could actually be slowing the car down through and exiting some corners as the car does not run cleanly and come onto full power until 5-10 meres after they have gone onto full throttle.


How do you know that they had ''aggresive antilag''?
5-10 after they were on full throttle??This is worst even without antilag.
Something you havent understant correct here.
If a antilag system is aggresive,there is no lag at all.So no 5-10 meters to wait for power.
Don t confuse how aggresive is antilag from noise in wrc cars.Each team has their own design system.There are antilags that they have very little noise,and others very loud bang-bang.
Also there is no just antilag.Each car can have even more than 3 programms of antilag(low-mild-aggresive-rain)
In some stages they can use different antilag program than an other,and last antilag setting has to do and at drivers likes.Ie maybe Sordo has different antilag from Meeke.


@bunnings nice video.

@Barreis post the link of youtube cause i can t see please.

[dimviii]

sideways Meeke
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=73029

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1241&fotograf=100&all=1

[Barreis]

How do you know that they had ''aggresive antilag''?
5-10 after they were on full throttle??This is worst even without antilag.
Something you havent understant correct here.
If a antilag system is aggresive,there is no lag at all.So no 5-10 meters to wait for power.
Don t confuse how aggresive is antilag from noise in wrc cars.Each team has their own design system.There are antilags that they have very little noise,and others very loud bang-bang.
Also there is no just antilag.Each car can have even more than 3 programms of antilag(low-mild-aggresive-rain)
In some stages they can use different antilag program than an other,and last antilag setting has to do and at drivers likes.Ie maybe Sordo has different antilag from Meeke.


@bunnings nice video.

@Barreis post the link of youtube cause i can t see please.

Sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tSlRDw7cg2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie6LPh7Kz0A&feature=player_embedded

[tfp]

Yeah, or a big stone like Latvala got the gift in Argentina... http://wrc.com/video/browse-all/argentina-2011-the-moment-latvala-lost-the-lead/?vid=2159&pg=10&srch_season=&srch_rallyid=&srch_teamid=-1&srch_driverid=-1

Not a bad effort for a zero car....... :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

Congratulations for Juho Hänninen and Mikko Markkula - SWRC World Champions 2011! :champion: :champion:

http://www.wrc.com/swrc/video/browse-all/video-spain-2011-hanninen-wins-the-s-wrc-title/?vid=2382

Markkula using familiar words - "Se on siinä, campionato perkele!" á la Risto Mannisenmäki from 1999 Rally Australia. :)

[Fri]

my pics from the rally:

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/wrc/12_spanyol/picture_gallery.htm

video soon

[bluuford]

Congratulations to Citroen for their title and also to Juho. SWRC battle in 2011 was much, much better than we could initially expect!
Nice rally!
Now, lets move on to Wales. Prokop and Tänak with WRC-s, WRC-academy title finale, WRC title finale. Everything in one rally. Mikko has been real shadow of himself for quite many rallies already. Hope to see nice fight in GB.

One thing I am worried about... it was third DS3 WRC engine in two rallies to expire. That is concern I must say. Fords were falling apart at the beginning of the year, seems that Fords stay in one piece now and it is Citroen´s turn to draw more attention in reliability.

[Fri]

here is the video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/063-rshu_rally_racc_catalunya_rally_2011.htm

[dimviii]

here is the video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/063-rshu_rally_racc_catalunya_rally_2011.htm

youtube link please

[dimviii]

Errr, those are incorrect figures, I am afraid. Or rather, incomplete.

Which is the right jonkka?Explain please.

[Josti]

Which is the right jonkka?Explain please.

Jonkka explains on his website that stage wins pre '78 are still incomplete. I guess Alén has more than 801 ss wins, though Loeb will still break his record sooner or later.

[Plan9]

Does anyone have a video of the power-stage? I would like to see how Meeke & Sordo got the 1-2

[N.O.T]

nothing too spectacular to see....they just were on the right tyre choice

[Plan9]

Critisism is based on some standards in everything we do in our lifes...same goes for rallying.

Some people have low standards and they do not critisize anything (they mostly live in star trek universe)....other have pretty high standard and critisize everything (and spend around 2/3 of their lives in the bathroom)....some have low standards on some things and high on others and critisize accordingly.

Meeke is indeed pushing hard but he crashes far too often...if he was 20 that would be ok...if you are 67 like meeke it gets repetitive.

That is very polemic. I am not sure why age should be a factor in his crashes. Thankfully they are not big crashes and I am sure that all drivers at a similar stage as Meeke in their development would be jealous at how good Meeke actually is!! I think that it is ubiquitous in all motorsports. I think that Meeke should be congratulated for his performance this rally. It shows he is learning fast. It will be interesting to see if any other converts from the IRC will adapt as quickly to WRC cars. Meeke has shown speed that is not common of WRC converts and I think once he has fully adjusted to all the rallies (more learning and crashes next year) he will indeed be a force. My only hope is that he or any other WRC driver adds to what we have tragically seen in IRL & MotoGP of late.

[N.O.T]

Meeke is in this business far too long now to be considered a driver under development...He is one of my favourite drivers and actually i can easily put him on top of my list, but i see the truth. I would be the happiest person ever if Meeke manages to combine his speed (which i think is very close to the top 3 guys) with consistency, but unfortunatelly it is not going to happen.

[gravelman]

Sorry Plan9, can you explain the last line to me there, bit pessimistic maybe. I'm sure you mean fear.

[N.O.T]

Sorry Plan9, can you explain the last line to me there, bit pessimistic maybe.

i think he forgot a "he does not..." before the "adds up....."

[rallysupportnl]

WRC RALLY SPAIN 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVt5-itJy9w

[BDunnell]

Meeke is in this business far too long now to be considered a driver under development...He is one of my favourite drivers and actually i can easily put him on top of my list, but i see the truth.

No, you see your opinion, which is often very different from the truth.

[N.O.T]

you mean that meeke at the age of 32 with participations in the JWRC, IRC and WRC with s1600 - WRC - s2000 cars is a driver under development ???

[tfp]

you mean that meeke at the age of 32 with participations in the JWRC, IRC and WRC with s1600 - WRC - s2000 cars is a driver under development ???

Most rally drivers are at their peak in their 30's. I'm sure Meeke has just had a slump in his career at the minute, I wouldn't give up on him just yet, good things will follow, I'm sure!

[noel157]

Most rally drivers are at their peak in their 30's. I'm sure Meeke has just had a slump in his career at the minute, I wouldn't give up on him just yet, good things will follow, I'm sure!

A slump in his career at the minute? Where have you been?

[fastboy]

The good news for Meeke is he knows he has got 2012,2013 to show what he can do.If mini can make the improvements to the car for next year he will start most rallies as a podium contender.The one thing any driver would ask for is a chance to show what they can do over 2 seasons and not be under pressure to get results straight away.Kris has this chance the rest is up to him and Nagle,personally i think they will do a great job.

[mousti]

Novikov will drive next year with the DS3 because he didn't crash this time :D .

Shakedown and friday were amazing ! Awesome what I saw of some drivers, pity Petter was out so soon and didn't superrally but it makes sense when the moneycan is almost fully empty. Saw Alistair Fisher and Barrable too on the stages, both said they probably participate in Ypres next year :D .

[Aquagen]

Few photos -> http://www.reporters.com.ua/gallery/1/120/

http://www.reporters.com.ua/gall_img/7dad11b7667238ebb4ef935750e84025.jpg

[olschl]

If Hirvonen does become WRC champion this year, he will probably be the most unworthy paper champion ever, prehaps the FIA should stop team bosses from forcing drivers to check into time controlls early to swap positions.

Maybe I misunderstand but how would this keep them from doing the swap in the stages? As for the "most unworthy paper champion ever", have there been others of note? Although I am relatively new to WRC compared to most here, I do seem to recall Sordo being asked to pull over to let Loeb by in 2009 Rally Cataluyna for the same reasons.

[tolis]

Some more photos: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/fotos.html

[jens]

Have to feel sorry for Latvala. Every single rally he has to give up his position just because he happened to have lots of reliability issues early in the season unlike Hirvonen. In my mind JML has been the better of the two this season, but cruelly circumstances have thought otherwise.

[KKS]

Where I can find photos from Catalunya for my home screen wallpaper? Need 1280+ px photos :)

[ioan]

How many points did Latvala have to gift to his cardboard team mate this season?
Doesn't Ford realize that this is downright disgusting politics that fans do not appreciate at all?

[uranium]

Latval works back for these severals points, which were not enough in 2009 for Hirvo to win. Just remember Poland...

[uranium]

The second thing, he is just part of team and doing great job as team member. That's it.

[cali]

Have to feel sorry for Latvala. Every single rally he has to give up his position just because he happened to have lots of reliability issues early in the season unlike Hirvonen. In my mind JML has been the better of the two this season, but cruelly circumstances have thought otherwise.
IMHO some of the reliability issues was caused Latvalas driving style, which can be very rough for the car.

[JoostSchouten]

We had a great rally, saw the crash of Wilson, Kimi with a little fire, some other crashes, good drifts, fast passes, dirt, tarmac, everything a rally needs was there!

Watch my video in HD at Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNOc3sZYBY&hd=1

http://rally.arfman.net/ForumPlaatjeCatalunya11.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNOc3sZYBY&hd=1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNOc3sZYBY

[Plan9]

i think he forgot a "he does not..." before the "adds up....."

Yes I did mean that. Thanks for that!!!

my opinion of Meeke & Mini:
Meeke- the crashes he had in Sardinia & Finland are not totally his fault. I think the still-to-be-perfected car may have to share part of the blame. Germany & France were down to his lack of experience and he himself admitted he pushed to hard and was not accurate enough with his pace notes in France. Spain I think has been a revelation of sorts for him as he was mature and took it down a notch the get more mileage under his belt. I also comment whoever had the brilliant idea about soft tyres on the power stage!

Mini- I think that the car has had quite a competitive debut compared to some other cars. Of course it is not like Citroen's cars; but then Prodrive does not have the equivalent budget (I assume). Getting on podiums and winning a power stage is quite commendable in the current state of play where Citroen and Ford have been developing their rally programs for far longer.

Further note to add: In today's GPWeek bad news for Mini- apparently "several projects" have had to stop as they are having problems finalizing a deal with a new title sponsor. Ford also is frustrated at not being able to announce its 2012 program.

[Hartusvuori]

my opinion of Meeke & Mini:
Meeke- the crashes he had in Sardinia & Finland are not totally his fault.

Remind me where in Finland did Meeke crash? The crash in the test really doesn't count.

It was good that he finally finished in Catalunya, but I know in the end of the day I'll remember Sardegna and Alsace from him further. It's not the team manager's approach of thinking, retirement count for nothing when making budgets, but you better own some raw speed than dull consistent scrap-points finisher. Eventually the fast guy will finish, that's an ancient truth.

[Plan9]

Remind me where in Finland did Meeke crash? The crash in the test really doesn't count.

It was good that he finally finished in Catalunya, but I know in the end of the day I'll remember Sardegna and Alsace from him further. It's not the team manager's approach of thinking, retirement count for nothing when making budgets, but you better own some raw speed than dull consistent scrap-points finisher. Eventually the fast guy will finish, that's an ancient truth.

I was thinking about the Testing before Finland. but also according to the press release from mini in Finland Meeke did get a puncture and experienced engine over heating and as a result he was withdrawn by his team.

I will always remember him for the 2005 JWRC. It was amazing, I used not to care about it but watching him competing with Sordo it made for amazing viewing. I actually like Mini even more as a result of this because we can see both drivers are more mature and can continue the fight!

[mousti]

Why did Campana not start btw? Didn't saw him in service wednesday noon and was already afraid he wasn't going to start and on SD it got confirmed :( .

Btw how u do this again to get on the mobile site of motorsportsforum? I use m.motorsportsforum.com but it's still the regular forum on my phone..

[6789]

The mobile shortcut stop working for me when the site crashed before Spain.

Good pace by Haydon Paddon on days two and three. He was over 2 minutes faster than florin who was still fighting right up to the last stage

[Hartusvuori]

I have some very light new mobile version of the site, doesn't show quotes differently for example. Since the URL changed last week, I googled it and it went mobile version directly.

[6789]

You don't realise just how much you come on here until the forum is down. Gets addictive to check every few hours.

[mousti]

If I google it on my Blackberry phone it still gets me regular version, can somebody give me a good URL or an option in settings that I can have the mobile site, very handy and indeed addictive !

[uranium]

Made interesting calculation, using old system 10-8-6... and no power stage points both Loeb and Hirvo would have 84 point equally.

[jonkka]

Jonkka explains on his website that stage wins pre '78 are still incomplete. I guess Alén has more than 801 ss wins, though Loeb will still break his record sooner or later.

That's correct.

[dimviii]

That's correct.

Sorry jonnka i can t understant this...''wins pre '78 are still incomplete'' incomplete from who?

[MartijnS]

My photos are online now!

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Loeb%205.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Prokop%201.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Merksteijn%207.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Oliveira%202.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Kosciuszko%204.jpg

More at --> CLICK (http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/rallycatalunya.html) !

[Barreis]

Nice photos.

[jonkka]

Sorry jonnka i can t understant this...''wins pre '78 are still incomplete'' incomplete from who?

My data is incomplete. I have only some stage times from WRC events between 1973 - 1978, not all. Thus, drivers of that era - for example Alen - may have (and very likely do have) stage wins that aren't included in the statistics on my site.

[dimviii]

My data is incomplete. I have only some stage times from WRC events between 1973 - 1978, not all. Thus, drivers of that era - for example Alen - may have (and very likely do have) stage wins that aren't included in the statistics on my site.

yes but i was refered at wrc.com article,not your statistics. So how can wrc.com is wrong?

[jonkka]

yes but i was refered at wrc.com article,not your statistics. So how can wrc.com is wrong?

A wrc.com article? Your posting on this thread (http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?p=977074#post977074) referred to rally catalunya's home page article, which in turn had reference to my site.

As far as I know, FIA does not keep records of statistical nature. Those stage win statistics are my own compilation, as are all statistics on my site.

[dimviii]

A wrc.com article? Your posting on this thread (referred%20to%20rally%20catalunya's%20home%20page %20article,%20which%20in%20turn%20had%20reference% 20to%20my%20site.[/b]</u></p>

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sportforums.com/showthread.php?p=977074#post977074 (http://www.motor<u>[b)) As far as I know, FIA does not keep records of statistical nature. Those stage win statistics are my own compilation, as are all statistics on my site.
My bad jonnka! didn t know that catalunya home page used your site.Thats why i confused.
Wrc.com also used your site,because i read it also at it.

whose tally of five stage wins during the event means he has broken Markku Alen’s record of 801 fastest stage times. “

http://www.wrc.com/news/archive/sunday-wrap-spain-triumph-for-loeb/?fid=15657

[Jordib]

My bad jonnka! didn t know that catalunya home page used your site.Thats why i confused.
Wrc.com also used your site,because i read it also at it.

This means that Jonkka is a world reference in WRC statistics!

[Priorat]

[quote="MartijnS"]My photos are online now!


http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Merksteijn%207.jpg



http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2011/rallycatalunya/Kosciuszko%204.jpg

I see we were very close on Sunday,
here are mine:
http://ralliaire.blogspot.com/

[MartijnS]

Indeed, but you were there the second run I think? Nice pics.

[Priorat]

Indeed, but you were there the second run I think? Nice pics.
Yes, it was the second there. Thank you.

[katikisphotography]

Rally RACC update by katikisphotography.com! Enjoy!

Rally RACC Catalunya Spain 2011 - katikisphotography | SmugMug (http://www.katikisphotography.com/Galleries/2011/Rally-RACC-Catalunya-Spain/19769780_gzwhMq#1553115984_bpC94Cc)

[mousti]

I noticed that Spanish fans love to watch rallying with some herbals :D

[giangino]

Photos Rally RACC Catalunya on line Aveto Wrc - Foto video rally - Foto Val d'Aveto e dintorni - Paesaggio - Natura - Flora e Fauna... (http://www.avetowrc.com/)

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Spagna2011/Foto/slides/RallyRACC_Catalunya_2011%20(17).jpg

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Spagna2011/Foto/slides/RallyRACC_Catalunya_2011%20%281%29.jpg

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Spagna2011/Foto/slides/RallyRACC_Catalunya_2011%20%282%29.jpg

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Spagna2011/Foto/slides/RallyRACC_Catalunya_2011%20%285%29.jpg

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Spagna2011/Foto/slides/RallyRACC_Catalunya_2011%20%2814%29.jpg

[Salist]

Here are my photos: RACC Rally de Espana 2011 (http://www.wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2011-7/rally-de-espana-2011-salou-75/)
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/111030/IMG_3439_1024_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/111030/IMG_3439_1024_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/111030/IMG_3224_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/111030/IMG_3224_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/111030/IMG_2905_1024_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/111030/IMG_2905_1024_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

[Motorsportfun]

Any pic of #63 car?

[tolis]

Any pic of #63 car?
Here you are: 63 LORENZO BERTELLI ITA BERTELLI Lorenzo GRANAI Lorenzo ITA/ITA MITSUBISHI Lancer Evo IX 3 | Flickr*: partage de photos*! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/luisperezcontreras/6268496127/)

[Motorsportfun]

^^

Thanks! :)

Why is NOT strange to see a white-red scheme? :D

http://www.mido365.com/upload/main/LogoPrada.jpg

[Pascal 07]

Hello, very nice pictures !

My pictures:


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/159849/DSC65692.jpg


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/159849/DSC67243.jpg


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/159849/DSC68034.jpg


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/159849/DSC6892.jpg


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/159849/DSC69423.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

Nickel Pascal !!!!

Tt avec Bruno ?

[Pascal 07]

Non je n'ai pas vu Bruno et Guillaume.

[Co-driven]

I was watching Loeb's SS1 footage:

WRC Onboards: Spain 2011: Loeb - SS01 Requested by Sorenle72 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzDZhGdmow&feature=feedu)

Around 11 minutes, he was a bit lucky on that same spot that caught Solberg, Block and Tanak, right? He did hit that same cement rock, didn't he?

[dimviii]

I was watching Loeb's SS1 footage:

WRC Onboards: Spain 2011: Loeb - SS01 Requested by Sorenle72 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzDZhGdmow&feature=feedu)

Around 11 minutes, he was a bit lucky on that same spot that caught Solberg, Block and Tanak, right? He did hit that same cement rock, didn't he?

there is a little movement of the car but not a hit.

[Fomchenkov Andrey]

My photos from:
RACC Rally de Espana 2011 (http://www.fomchenkov.com)