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AndyRAC

26th May 2011, 00:07

was always going to happen. I'm just surprised it wasn't in another couple of years time....

To be fair, he's had a good run - 6 seasons.

N.O.T

26th May 2011, 00:07

we can only hope that these news are true....

However, unfortunatelly i think somehow he will secure the budget...

Daniel

26th May 2011, 00:07

To be fair, he's had a good run - 6 seasons.

Yep, can't complain about not having a chance.

sollitt

26th May 2011, 02:46

.... i think somehow he will secure the budget... Let's hope so.

Daniel

26th May 2011, 02:52

Let's hope so.

Just so it can annoy some people on a forum. What a sport you are Bruce.....

MJW

26th May 2011, 09:04

They said at the beginning of the year they didnt have a buget for a full season. Somehow I think I would have skipped Mexico, Jordan, Argentina and Australia to try and save enough to do the local rallies, Finland, Germany, Spain and France. Unless they were thinking that lets get good results in the first half and the money will follow.

sollitt

26th May 2011, 10:10

Just so it can annoy some people on a forum. What a sport you are Bruce.....
Annoyance at Wilson's involvement is actually much more of an indicator of his detractors psychological disorders than it is a measure of his success.

I hope young Wilson finds the budget to carry on. Similarly I would hope any talented driver wishing to 'live the dream' would find the budget to do so.

Incidentally, is the fact that Wilson has run out of budget and is searching for further backing perhaps confirmation that his funding hasn't come from M-Sport/Abu Dhabi WRC team coffers but from his own (with a little help from dad & friends) efforts?

BDunnell

26th May 2011, 10:13

Annoyance at Wilson's involvement is actually much more of an indicator of his detractors psychological disorders than it is a measure of his success.

Forgive me for asking, but which psychologist has stated that one is more of an indicator than the other?

I hope young Wilson finds the budget to carry on. Similarly I would hope any talented driver wishing to 'live the dream' would find the budget to do so.

I quite agree with you. Talented drivers do deserve to find the necessary budget.

MikeD

26th May 2011, 12:24

Annoyance at Wilson's involvement is actually much more of an indicator of his detractors psychological disorders than it is a measure of his success.

...except that he's not succesful!

I hope young Wilson finds the budget to carry on.

I hope not! I would like the WRC to be about world class drivers, not "also-rans" ...

Bobcat

26th May 2011, 12:40

Incidentally, is the fact that Wilson has run out of budget and is searching for further backing perhaps confirmation that his funding hasn't come from M-Sport/Abu Dhabi WRC team coffers but from his own (with a little help from dad & friends) efforts?
Yes, it sounds logical.

Tom206wrc

26th May 2011, 14:44

Don't forget that if Wilslow is out of WRC, his car won't go in the hands of another(very talented)driver, if no money, so it'll be simply one car less in the championship :rolleyes:

N.O.T

26th May 2011, 17:11

Don't forget that if Wilslow is out of WRC, his car won't go in the hands of another(very talented)driver, if no money, so it'll be simply one car less in the championship :rolleyes:

i am sure the car will be at the central of m-sport along with others so if someone wants to see just another car he can visit the factory.

Daniel

26th May 2011, 17:51

i am sure the car will be at the central of m-sport along with others so if someone wants to see just another car he can visit the factory.

Wront N.O.T, they're crushing the car.

tfp

26th May 2011, 23:31

http://www.wrc.com/results/2011/rally-argentina/stage-times/?stageno=1

Look at the difference between 5th and 6th. 5 and a half seconds over a 3km stage. And they try and tell us that they are the same cars :rolleyes:

Daniel

26th May 2011, 23:34

tfp

26th May 2011, 23:42

Errrr. hirvonen is a good driver and viagra isn't?

Viagra :D
But surely, as its his home event which he consistantly wins the national championship, and obviously knows the surface, he should be doing better than that. I'd probably agree with you if Antony hadn't shed some light on the cars.
Wilson is right behind vallagra, thats why I put the link in this thread :)

N.O.T

26th May 2011, 23:51

where are you from tfp ??

Daniel

27th May 2011, 00:44

Viagra :D
But surely, as its his home event which he consistantly wins the national championship, and obviously knows the surface, he should be doing better than that. I'd probably agree with you if Antony hadn't shed some light on the cars.
Wilson is right behind vallagra, thats why I put the link in this thread :)

Yes he should do better, but maybe he's just not all that good.

tfp

27th May 2011, 17:34

where are you from tfp ??

I live in north east england, in fact, I havent asked him yet, but I think its just a stone throw away from Mark(admin) but I'm not sure :)

I've just saw the SS4 times and I'm still convinced the cars are different, I think realistically the bottom half of the top ten are aiming for 6th place, or fifth, if any one of the top 5 retires for what ever reason.

Daniel

27th May 2011, 17:36

So your theory is that you saw one rally stage............

wildsir

27th May 2011, 18:51

U earn the right to be in a works car.

Wim_Impreza

28th May 2011, 08:59

28th May 2011, 22:13

I live in north east england, in fact, I havent asked him yet, but I think its just a stone throw away from Mark(admin) but I'm not sure :)

I've just saw the SS4 times and I'm still convinced the cars are different, I think realistically the bottom half of the top ten are aiming for 6th place, or fifth, if any one of the top 5 retires for what ever reason.

Villagra was also very slow on the IRC event last year. I think it is more to do with the drivers. It is a shame that WRC points aren't really much of an achievement still (even with the new cars) Maybe if/when more works teams arrive.

Gregor-y

28th May 2011, 22:31

U earn the right to be in a works car.
I think we need more than four works cars.

rjbetty

28th May 2011, 22:43

Is this really the last rally for Matty? :(
I haven't been following recently. Sad it didn't work out. It was so exciting for me when he started in 2006 and it looked like he did have talent, but...

I'll be sad he's gone, but if he's given up on getting to the front and he's happy to just be nowhere (saying stuff like the stage went well when he was 40 seconds off!) maybe it's the right thing... :(

tfp

29th May 2011, 00:31

Daniel

29th May 2011, 00:34

I think we need more than four works cars.

and for that you need more teams and rules which reward manufacturers for having more than 2 competitive drivers.

rjbetty

29th May 2011, 04:00

Been reading through the thread - very nice to see a fair few positive comments too. One of them said that Matt himself reads this forum (!!!) Is that true? :eek:

I've changed my signature to be more positive. Was feeling the old one was way too harsh anyway. I had been thinking it would be good for Matty to know people support him. If that means I stand on my own... I reeeaaally want to see him succeed.

Found the post I liked:

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by fastboyhttp://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=908710#post908710)
His level of pace this season has been good when the car has been trouble free,Portugal day 1 he was about a second a k from fastest times.While i don't believe he can get a podium this season i think he will show decent pace on the rest of the gravel rallies.I think it was a massive set back having the terrible injuries from his crash in 2005 .The fact he is close to his parents is the fact that they built him back up from a real low point, and i know that they are terrified that this might happen again,so want to be close during rallies.
The one area i feel they went wrong was the 5 year plan,it didnt push him enough to get good results early enough,meaning he was in a comfort zone,which is prooving hard to get out of.
The fact that A.Tinkler has kept him hanging about weather or not he will get a full budget is good ,and demands more speed from Matt before they cough up more money,this should of been what they did after the first 2 years.
I know he reads the forum so keep giving it your best shot Matt,you've got it in you youve just got to show it.

This is one of the best posts I've (maybe) ever read. Yes go for it Matt! +1

rjbetty

29th May 2011, 04:05

His level of pace this season has been good when the car has been trouble free,Portugal day 1 he was about a second a k from fastest times.While i don't believe he can get a podium this season i think he will show decent pace on the rest of the gravel rallies.I think it was a massive set back having the terrible injuries from his crash in 2005 .The fact he is close to his parents is the fact that they built him back up from a real low point, and i know that they are terrified that this might happen again,so want to be close during rallies.
The one area i feel they went wrong was the 5 year plan,it didnt push him enough to get good results early enough,meaning he was in a comfort zone,which is prooving hard to get out of.
The fact that A.Tinkler has kept him hanging about weather or not he will get a full budget is good ,and demands more speed from Matt before they cough up more money,this should of been what they did after the first 2 years.
I know he reads the forum so keep giving it your best shot Matt,you've got it in you youve just got to show it.

This is one of the best posts I've (maybe) ever read. Yes go for it Matt! +1

29th May 2011, 06:49

True, although I just think its a lack of sponsership at the minute, maybe enter the IRC or something lower budget?

I don't think the results would be better (in fact they would probably be worse in terms of positions) given that he was beaten by Hanninen in Sardinia. Only advantage would be it would cost less money doing it and might be good psychologically to have a fresh challenge.

Tom206wrc

29th May 2011, 13:17

Over for Wilslow on the longest stage of rally Agentina :confused:

rjbetty

29th May 2011, 14:59

I have been thinking recently that the idea to stick straight in a WRC car maybe wasn't so good. When Malcolm first espoused this in 2005, I thought it was so right. It might not be the done thing to drive the WRC cars at such an early stage, but if you're able to, then go for it! I failed to take into account the poor competition in the WRC. It really does look like Malcolm's approach of always having his drivers finish at all costs (which I totally agreed with at the time) just makes them conservative. Looks to me like Matt (and others) haven't been allowed to push the envelope, cos that's how people get better, even though mistakes will happen.

Jani Paasonen was too much the other way round. He was fast but looked like he NEVER LEARNED from his mistakes :(

So, I do now believe if Matt had got stuck into close JWRC-PWRC-SWRC battles it would force him to push the envelope. I know from playing Superstar Racing I need close competition and pressure to bring out the best in me. In a lower level class he could win and get podiums for the same performances that gave him lots of distant WRC 7ths. I know wining results woud increase my confidence so much more.

noel157

3rd June 2011, 16:54

What? Another 5 yr plan in the lower classes?

If the crash in Wales is still worrying his parents and perhaps himself then he's in the wrong job. What's the point of wasting resources etc if they and he are nervous every time he steps into a car?
What happened to the days when a driver had a bad crash and couldn't wait until he could get back on a stage? And often faster too.