Rally Finland 2011

[pantealex]

First 4 trucks/trailers are in Paviljonki HQ area
2 FERM
1 all red AbuDhabi
1 white-blue Ford

all of them 18meter long ones.

[Allar]

I think Ferm guys came straight from Estonia, thats why they are there so early :P
Im wondering if they had Fiesta WRC cars in Estonia with them or another car brings them?

[Mirek]

Do You have Lahti historic rally entry list?

[OldF]

Do You have Lahti historic rally entry list?

Here you go.

http://www.lahtihistoricrally.com/tiedostot/tiedostot2011/lhr2011_entry_list.pdf

[Mirek]

Thank You

[pantealex]

For those who already are in zone.

PWRC/SWRC testday is sunday
Place: Mansikkamäentie, Moksi (Korpilahti/Jyväskylä)
Time: 9.00-15.00

They will start 2min intervals, so you can take time.

[Tinke1979]

Place: Mansikkamäentie, Moksi (Korpilahti/Jyväskylä)


Hmm.. This is the same road that was used in Vellipohja-stage couple of years ago.. Too bad that they dont use the road where Kosciuszko rolled his car :D

[dimviii]

Sebastien Ogier claims Finns not unbeatable on Rally Finland - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93222)

[Gregor-y]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270238_256075171072677_157932864220242_1162733_289 8857_n.jpg
Looks like a generator with regulation and distribution handled inside the blue box.

[JRodrigues]

Finland.. Here I come!!! :D

[Rallisauna]

Here is my photo diary from the on going progress of building up the Neste Oil Rally Finland 2011. Follow the link to keep yourself on tracks what happens here in Jyväskylä. I'll try to update the pictures as often as I can:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi/NesteOilRallyFinlandInsideView

[Zeakiwi]

Is the new truck pulling an icebox so with the help of a regression hypnotherapist, the ford team can make Hirvonen think he is driving in Sweden ?

or does the container have ice baths for the crews ?
V8 drivers hit ice bath | Dunlop Townsville 400 | Townsville Bulletin - Townsville, North QLD, Australia (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/07/13/63621_v8.html)

[ZoomanSP206]

Here is my photo diary from the on going progress of building up the Neste Oil Rally Finland 2011.

Thanks for sharing these pics! Does it mean that Laajavuori stage will be run on tarmac and not on gravel?

[Juha_Koo]

Does it mean that Laajavuori stage will be run on tarmac and not on gravel?

No, only the beginning of the stage (uphill section) is on tarmac, just like last year. The rest is gravel. :)

[Bobcat]

Is the new truck pulling an icebox so with the help of a regression hypnotherapist, the ford team can make Hirvonen think he is driving in Sweden ?

or does the container have ice baths for the crews ?
V8 drivers hit ice bath | Dunlop Townsville 400 | Townsville Bulletin - Townsville, North QLD, Australia (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/07/13/63621_v8.html)

"The Ford team will unveil a new two-floor team headquarters. The ground floor contains a large open area for guests, a kitchen and toilets. The first floor has four meeting rooms, a physiotherapists' room, two offices for engineering staff and a centre area for team personnel. The HQ has 14 TV screens across all areas, showing stage times, maps and promotional information. It will take a team of 24 staff four days to erect the facility and two days to take it down again."

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-peHPYDW4nAM/TinO8OvDbiI/AAAAAAAAD0c/czkUZ-I6yc4/s640/Kuva785.jpg

[Miika]

After being beaten 6-0 on gravel this year, good to know that Ford is focusing on the most crucial of things, like the kitchen.

[Mise]

After being beaten 6-0 on gravel this year, good to know that Ford is focusing on the most crucial of things, like the kitchen.

Well, as they say in that commercial:

Good food, better mood

[Miika]

Yep, if the French beat them outright on these roads as well, a well-prepared comfort food is indeed in place after the rally. Nice concept. Good thinking, boys.

[Josti]

"The Ford team will unveil a new two-floor team headquarters. The ground floor contains a large open area for guests, a kitchen and toilets. The first floor has four meeting rooms, a physiotherapists' room, two offices for engineering staff and a centre area for team personnel. The HQ has 14 TV screens across all areas, showing stage times, maps and promotional information. It will take a team of 24 staff four days to erect the facility and two days to take it down again."

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-peHPYDW4nAM/TinO8OvDbiI/AAAAAAAAD0c/czkUZ-I6yc4/s640/Kuva785.jpg

Terrible stuff. Just like those ridiculous motorhome's in F1.

[tolis]

New livery for Oliveira!
BRAZILWRT | 2011 (http://www.brazilwrt.com/amplia_noticia.php?id_noti=110)

[Allar]

Ott Tänak/Kuldar Sikk testing for NORF : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9inSL54_0

[Francis44]

Ott Tänak/Kuldar Sikk testing for NORF : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9inSL54_0

OMG..... No Neuville, if anyone is to give a factory seat to a young driver, it's Tänak, this is for me the fastest young man around, VW open your eyes.

[N.O.T]

why would neuville test a ford in finland ??

[6789]

Tanak has signed with Ford already but. Not surehow binding the contract is but

[Hartusvuori]

VW Motorsport test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htbzHU3Z9qE

[cali]

OMG..... No Neuville, if anyone is to give a factory seat to a young driver, it's Tänak, this is for me the fastest young man around, VW open your eyes.
Tänak is not good enough on tarmac because of limited experiance...hopefully
Neuville has the same situation vice-versa

[wwbroe]

VW Motorsport test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htbzHU3Z9qE

Who was the driver? Doesn't look very fast, at least not if you compare with Tanak. ;)

[ProRally]

New livery for Oliveira!
BRAZILWRT | 2011 (http://www.brazilwrt.com/amplia_noticia.php?id_noti=110)

New car for BWRT

[6789]

Mikko testing at Ouninpohja, not sure if this has been posted, Amazing video of an amazing road!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxOljrD3OM

[Allar]

Mikko looks fast! Any pics from servicepark?

[janneppi]

Bleh, looks like it's only one stage visit this year, fortunately stage 11 is not far from Sysmä. :)

[vkangas]

Who was the driver? Doesn't look very fast, at least not if you compare with Tanak. ;)
Don't know but if it's Lindroos it's quite natural as he has a massive experience of 0 km with s2000 ;) .

[MJW]

Mikko looks fast! Any pics from servicepark? or webcam from service park. We have had that in the past.

[alleskids]

why would neuville test a ford in finland ??

Ford offered Neuville a test (for a client sales probarly), but he had to refuse it, because Peugeot Belgium/Peugeot Sport did not like their protege to test a non Peugeot/Citroen car.

[donlorean]

Don't know but if it's Lindroos it's quite natural as he has a massive experience of 0 km with s2000 ;) .

It's quite impossible say something about speed from that kind of clip(I don't know who's driving). We'll see that speed online next thursday...

I heard rumours that Joonas speed was impressive at his first time in SWRC, and if that rumours is even close to truth, he is going to be fast... Not "fast" or "kind of fast"... I mean FAST...

[vkangas]

It's quite impossible say something about speed from that kind of clip(I don't know who's driving). We'll see that speed online next thursday...

I heard rumours that Joonas speed was impressive at his first time in SWRC, and if that rumours is even close to truth, he is going to be fast... Not "fast" or "kind of fast"... I mean FAST...
There's no doubt - Joonas is going to be FAST! :)

[tfp]

Seems like ages since the last rally...I look forward to finland :)

[Hartusvuori]

Chris Atkinson writes in his Facebook that he's coming to Finland for recce. I hope this mean he has/is included in plans for WRC comeback.

[donlorean]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xfKucjQ-8

Matti Rantanen NORF test Mini WRC...

[Mirek]

SWRC/PWRC test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unWVgH8J-o&feature=feedu

[Barreis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xfKucjQ-8

Matti Rantanen NORF test Mini WRC...

Engine sounds great.

[Juha_Koo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xfKucjQ-8

Matti Rantanen NORF test Mini WRC...

Damnnn!

Why does the Mini appeal to me so much? :love:

[gravelman]

SWRC/PWRC test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unWVgH8J-o&feature=feedu

The Opel driver will be the one to watch out for.....

[6789]

Chris Atkinson writes in his Facebook that he's coming to Finland for recce. I hope this mean he has/is included in plans for WRC comeback.

I wonder who its for, Block isn't doing the rally at all.

[focus206]

The Opel driver will be the one to watch out for.....
He run in PWRC or SWRC? :D

[Juha_Koo]

I wonder who its for, Block isn't doing the rally at all.

??

Ofcourse it's for himself, not anybody else. Recce-only isn't even rare.

[6789]

??

Ofcourse it's for himself, not anybody else. Recce-only isn't even rare.
I know they can do recce-only, but do they have gravel crews? I was thinking more along those lines. Apologies

[makinen_fan]

I know they can do recce-only, but do they have gravel crews? I was thinking more along those lines. Apologies

gravel crews are not allowed any more, only for tarmac rallies if I am correct. hopefully he has smt planned for next year, good to have him back.

[MikeD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xfKucjQ-8

Matti Rantanen NORF test Mini WRC...

That car is run by Grifone and so is the car that Flodin is gonna use. That means Grifone have at least two cars. I wonder if they are becomming a sort of B-Team to Prodrive?

[6789]

gravel crews are not allowed any more, only for tarmac rallies if I am correct. hopefully he has smt planned for next year, good to have him back.

Oh ok, maybe something might be there if he's doing recce then. Be good for the sport in Aus, get good coverage again.
There's more YouTube footage of mikko testing, don't have the links on my phone sry.

I see Ogier is talking about a win in Finland, going to be awesome. I should be on a plane heading northwest right now!!

[Francis44]

Ogier might challenge both Latvala and Mikko like they have never been challenged in this rally.

If you look back at Ogier this season, it's almost mindblowing..... Faster than Loeb in Sweden, leading in Mexico before crashing, win in Portugal, win in Jordan, not so good in Sardinia, victory in it's hands in Argentina before blowing it, win in Greece. Ofcourse in rally you need to finish but if he managed to keep it together in Mexico and Argentina he might would have been well in the lead of the championship. And I think if he wins in Finland he might just be set to win the title.

[Ondra WRC]

Jari Ketomaa:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/263249_10150273488535559_546155558_7723785_4020576 _n.jpg
http://www.ketomaa.com/images/norftest_2011/image18.jpg

[Bobcat]

Photos de fan de Ford WRC | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=208894749160118&set=o.157932864220242)

[Juha_Koo]

Photos de fan de Ford WRC | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=208894749160118&set=o.157932864220242)

Pretty incredible.

On one hand, shame to see that F1-like stuff is coming to rally, but then again I understand it, in modern-day's market-orientated world you have to please your sponsors and attract new ones when at the same time providing quality services for all executive guests, VIPs, etc. I'm sure it's a BIT easier to lure new financial funders and make new contacts in there than in some crappy tent under heavy rain with only dry biscuits to serve.

As long as it doesn't affect their performance, then hell, bring a skyscraper if needed...

[Gregor-y]

They seem to have lots of money even if they don't win. I'm starting to think Ford is the Chicago Cubs of the WRC.

[vkangas]

or webcam from service park. We have had that in the past.
Hope this is from this year :) .
Bambuser | (YLE Keski-Suomi) (http://bambuser.com/channel/YLE+Keski-Suomi/broadcast/909476)

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Hope this is from this year :) .
Bambuser | (YLE Keski-Suomi) (http://bambuser.com/channel/YLE+Keski-Suomi/broadcast/909476)

this is live? :)

[CABAIO E'LONA]

http://www.mattirantanen.net/galleria_testit2011025.jpg

Rantanen Livery? I was waiting for a Mini Mad Croc crocodile design, but is nice...

[MJW]

I think it is Matthias Therman who has Mad Croc livery.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

I think it is Matthias Therman who has Mad Croc livery.

Rantanen in 2009, Therman in 2010, but The Therman Car is known as "Who Let the Dogs out" Focus :P

[vkangas]

this is live? :)
Sorry, my bad. It seems to be from last year... :p :

[A.F.F.]

If Ketomaa isn't on the podium, both him and me are disappointed !!!

[A.F.F.]

Pino, better take your wetgear with you. I might rain both days :mark:

[Xsara Fan]

Photos from service & recce (http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?idgroup=18912)

Therminator`s Mini:

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/18912/18937.jpg

[Allar]

Kruuda-Järveoja testing before NORF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb56ZY_chio&feature

[6789]

Very cool livery!

[JRodrigues]

Pino, better take your wetgear with you. I might rain both days :mark:

Damn!! :\

[pino]

Pino, better take your wetgear with you. I might rain both days :mark:

Not a problem for me but thanks ;)

[pino]

Pino, better take your wetgear with you. I might rain both days :mark:

Not a problem for me but thanks ;)

[Miika]

Mikko + Ouninpohja + Fiesta WRC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJP2Btcvjto

A grande attack in the race as well for sure, but staying on the road is another thing.

[General Prim]

Can someone of the Finnish members tell me where I can find wifi along the route of the rally? Maybe Neste stations? Kiitos

[Salist]

Photos from service & recce (http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?idgroup=18912)

Therminator`s Mini:

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/18912/18937.jpg

Nice photos, thanks.

[donlorean]

Can someone of the Finnish members tell me where I can find wifi along the route of the rally? Maybe Neste stations? Kiitos

Maybe some Neste stations sell those but like some others told earlier best place to find those is R-kioski. You can find those almost every city.

[General Prim]

Kiitos!

[Xsara Fan]

Evgeny Novikov`s video diary & some shots from service park (http://www.almrally.ru/novikov-news/info/5867/)

[fugu80]

Rene Kuipers off @ Recce today :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4VwEJsT050&feature=share

[Voice of Rally]

Guys,

Here's my preview for Rally Finland. There's a very obvious mistake in there which i apologise in advance for!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJhraca730

[Tomi]

Good Preview.

[wwbroe]

Great work from Colin again, nice preview of Rally Finland. Can't wait to get it started. ;)

[wwbroe]

Great work from Colin again, nice preview of Rally Finland. Can't wait to get it started. ;)

[pino]

Nice job Colin...thanks :up:

[makinen_fan]

a bit embarrassing spinning in the recce and at low speed

[Juha_Koo]

a bit embarrassing spinning in the recce and at low speed

Not embarrasing at all, that corner is a very very tricky one. Information from the forest tells that nearly all crews stopped after that corner to fine tune their notes.

[DonJippo]

Not embarrasing at all, that corner is a very very tricky one. Information from the forest tells that nearly all crews stopped after that corner to fine tune their notes.

At what Friday's stage is this place?

[makinen_fan]

hope no one crashes in the rally there then!

[Miika]

Some more footage of Joonas Lindroos testing the VW Skoda, plus thoughts ahead of the rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2rM9OgqOS0

(Team has said to him that the mileage done is more important than the result, but a Finn in Finland can´t drive like a wilslow so we´ll see)

[Mirek]

Can You give a short summary of what he said?

[Miika]

About the rally, he said he didn´t really believe that VW would choose him for this test event, since there were "whole bunch of others waiting in line". And he says that the result of this rally has a big impact on what the future will look like for him, but then again the bosses from VW have underlined that he has to bring the car to the finish. And they also want him to progress during the rally, the stage times have to improve as the event goes on. But they don´t expect him to beat Hänninen or Tänak, so no such pressures on him.

[Mirek]

Thanks. Now I'm going to pack. My plane leaves at 6 a.m. :)

[Salist]

Have a nice trip Mirek!

[Hartusvuori]

About weather, now it looks Thursday will be mostly dry, but Friday definitely some rain in the south. Thunderstorms are possible since temperature will stay around and above 25c during the days.

[vkangas]

Interesting to look at the Pickems. Generally people seem to rate Ketomaa much lower than Rantanen. I'm expecting Ketomaa to fight for the podium. Even for the win if some top guys hit trouble. In my opinion there is no question that Ketomaa is faster than Rantanen with equal machinery. He is also the only top driver in WRC who knows the friday stages like his pockets.

[rp]

Interesting to look at the Pickems. Generally people seem to rate Ketomaa much lower than Rantanen. I'm expecting Ketomaa to fight for the podium. Even for the win if some top guys hit trouble. In my opinion there is no question that Ketomaa is faster than Rantanen with equal machinery. He is also the only top driver in WRC who knows the friday stages like his pockets.

Me too! Yes, he is faster and also Fiesta is better than Mini. Rantanen knows also the friday stages and his knowledge is better than Ketomaa´s, because he lives in Lammi region. It is time to beat top five drivers, but top three or close to podium is also enough to secure his future...

[A.F.F.]

Rantanen has used his chances to show at NORF brilliantly last years. If only there would have been more teams, he surely was under consideration. Ketomaa is pure fire. Tell's something about his attitude ( or sense of humour ;) ) when he said couple of years ago with that old Subaru that he aims for podium and anything below that is a disappointment :D

I personally think that Ketomaa is the best we have to offer for work teams :up: He is crazyfast !!!

[focus206]

I really don't know what to expect from Ketomaa. I know he is fast in Finland, but is he fast enough to challenge the Citroens? I don't know why, but I feel like he isn't (but I hope I'm wrong!)
Rantanen is fast in Finland too, he was pretty fast with the Focus last years, but now he drives a Mini so it's not easy to say how fast he will be.
Oh well, I can't wait for the start of the rally! :)

[dimviii]

What about s2000 competitors? I d like to listen some predictions from our Fin mates.

[Juha_Koo]

What about s2000 competitors? I d like to listen some predictions from our Fin mates.

I'm expecting a tough battle between Hänninen and Tänak. Lindroos most likely to take it pretty easy because of the "must get to the finish" orders. I'm expecting Brynildsen and Kruuda to provide "small surprises" when the rally progresses. Nothing big though.

From three to five S2000s ending up upside down in Finnish forests.

[vkangas]

Lindroos is fast and has fresh experience of these roads but after hearing too many times from different sources that he "must finish the rally" I'll thing he's going to take it quite easy in the beginning. My money on Hänninen, he seems to have "Loeb-like" speed reserve always available when needed which is a sign of a world class driver.

Juha Salo could provide a surprise with his Evo R4. There's not many guys in the world who match his speed with Evo. In Rally Estonia's fast roads we saw that Ketomaa was able to match Prokop's s2000 times with his R4 for the short amount of time it held together.

[vkangas]

Nice Lindroos analysis Juha! ;)

[tolis]

Interesting to look at the Pickems. Generally people seem to rate Ketomaa much lower than Rantanen. I'm expecting Ketomaa to fight for the podium. Even for the win if some top guys hit trouble. In my opinion there is no question that Ketomaa is faster than Rantanen with equal machinery. He is also the only top driver in WRC who knows the friday stages like his pockets.
I don't think Ford will let Ketomaa fight for a podium place, instead the Ford's are in the first 2 places. I hope so though. About Rantanen, I don't think his car is good enough to fight for top 6.
Let's see!

[6789]

What about Andreas?

For WRC, I think it's so hard to predict. Ogier or JML to win, but Mikko, Loeb, Solberg all in the fight. Ketomaa is fast, but he has to finish the rally!

[Juha_Koo]

I had lengthy discussions about the rally and I realised I haven't said it in here.

This year Ogier will either win or crash.

[dimviii]

So who is going to be faster,Hanninen or Tanak?

[Juha_Koo]

What about Andreas?

LOL, I forgot him totally. Clearly when talking about the rally for 3+ hours nonstop, I tend to forget some things. If he has received same orders as Lindroos, he'll be most probably take it easy. Should be somewhere around 2nd-4th in SWRC.


So who is going to be faster,Hanninen or Tanak?

Hänninen for sure, but I don't know have they fully sorted out EVO2's "problems" on gravel. If not, then Tänak might win SWRC. Watching Tänak's test footage, he's definately not lacking any attacking. But I'll believe Juho will show how it's done.

[tolis]

So who is going to be faster,Hanninen or Tanak?
Mas vazeis diskola vradiatika! :D
Gooooooo Juho!!! :)

[6789]

I had lengthy discussions about the rally and I realised I haven't said it in here.

This year Ogier will either win or crash.
Yeah I have to agree about Ogier, win it or bin it attitude.

Tanak looked fast in the testing video, maybe he was oversteering the car alittle too much?

Hope you guys are excited! Wish I was in Finalnd, such a beautiful country and loved the atmosphere

[N.O.T]

you overestimate Ogier about his capabilities in Finland.

[Miika]

Interesting to look at the Pickems. Generally people seem to rate Ketomaa much lower than Rantanen. I'm expecting Ketomaa to fight for the podium.

I sure as hell expect Ketomaa to record some top 3 stage times, even fastest times, in this rally. He has to make some kind of mark in this rally and that can only happen by humiliating the factory duo in some stages - even if the rally end upside down in the woods. If Rantanen gets top 3 times that would be totally bonkers, even if he knew friday´s stages better.

[6789]

Latvala is paying $34 for the win at my betting agency!! YEAH BUDDY!

Sebastien Loeb 1.35 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Sebastien Ogier 3.25 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Mikko Hirvonen 6.00
http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gifPetter Solberg 34.00 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Jari Matti Latvala 34.00

[COD]

I think Ketomaa (even more so if it's dry), will be in top3 after thursday stages, but unfortunately he will be the "Solberg of Ford" and drop down friday-saturday...

[N.O.T]

Latvala is paying $34 for the win at my betting agency!! YEAH BUDDY!

Sebastien Loeb 1.35 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Sebastien Ogier 3.25 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Mikko Hirvonen 6.00
http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gifPetter Solberg 34.00 http://www.sportingbet.com.au/images/blank.gif
Jari Matti Latvala 34.00

bet the house on him !!!

[Walach]

I think Ketomaa (even more so if it's dry), will be in top3 after thursday stages, but unfortunately he will be the "Solberg of Ford" and drop down friday-saturday...

I except the same with Mads Ostberg.

[Hartusvuori]

Rally officials informs that SS4 Hassi from spectating area E until finish (Konivuorentie) is closed from spectators due to natural preserving and agreement with locals to use the road. Road is closed from already Thursday.

SS7 Koukunmaa spectating area D (P3) is also cancelled. There is more room at spectating area H (P7) instead.

[papar007]

6 on Hirvonen is great, i think that's your bet!

[mm1]

Hey, Juha_Koo I sent you a pm, have you recieved it?

[Juha_Koo]

Hey, Juha_Koo I sent you a pm, have you recieved it?

No, I haven't received... Some issues here atm, many double posts, etc.

[A.F.F.]

you overestimate Ogier about his capabilities in Finland.

Ogier has a very good chance of winning Rally Finland. If he starts really good, Latvala and Hirvonen won't stand a chance. Loeb is nothing to worry, since he will choose to secure his championship title.

[makinen_fan]

ogier is capable of winning i believe. last year he showed very good pace as well and this year it seems he is in super form

[mm1]

No, I haven't received... Some issues here atm, many double posts, etc.
Sent it once more.

[tolis]

Some more photos from ALMRally: Äî ñòàðòà ðàëëè - 26 èþëÿ 2011 - Ðàëëè Ôèíëÿíäèè - WRC - Ñåçîí 2011 - Ðàëëè â ìèðå - Ôîòî - Âñ¸ î ðàëëè íà ðóññêîì (http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?idgroup=18992)

[A.F.F.]

Ok... thursday 2 stages, friday 4 stages and saturday 5 stages. Possible but only by following the top drivers on latter days.

[BVB Rallying]

Anyone knows when the shakedown will be? Can't find it on the official site and on wrc.com...

[rp]

Anyone knows when the shakedown will be? Can't find it on the official site and on wrc.com...

Tomorrow (Thursday) morning 8:00-12:00 in Ruuhimäki...

Here you can find the map:
http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Finland/rally/38/Neste-Oil-Rally-Finland

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_ec5e0c64ec.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_aacf6a495b.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_9ebb7b1997.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_1789290300.jpg

First few photos from Finland service HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=906&fseason=2011)

[6789]

Got JML at 34 and Mikko at 6. Odds changed to JML 3.75 Mikko 3 lol. That's the good thing about WRC being small in Aus. Bookies have no idea lol.

Shakedown is the same as last year or all new?

[janneppi]

Ok... thursday 2 stages, friday 4 stages and saturday 5 stages. Possible but only by following the top drivers on latter days.
You won't by any chance visit stage 11 on Friday night??

[donlorean]

Got JML at 34 and Mikko at 6. Odds changed to JML 3.75 Mikko 3 lol. That's the good thing about WRC being small in Aus. Bookies have no idea lol.

Shakedown is the same as last year or all new?

Not same than last year. SD is part of old Ruuhimäki stage...

[pino]

Ok... thursday 2 stages, friday 4 stages and saturday 5 stages. Possible but only by following the top drivers on latter days.

Sounds great for me :up: :D

[pino]

Ok... thursday 2 stages, friday 4 stages and saturday 5 stages. Possible but only by following the top drivers on latter days.

Sounds great for me :up: :D

[Allar]

Yeah I have to agree about Ogier, win it or bin it attitude.

Tanak looked fast in the testing video, maybe he was oversteering the car alittle too much?

Hope you guys are excited! Wish I was in Finalnd, such a beautiful country and loved the atmosphere

He knows better how do drive fast than you do :P

I have no idea wich one will be faster, Ott is faster on gravel, but Finland is something else. I like to see Ott on 1st place....

[bluuford]

Some photos from the tests: Timo Anis (http://rallyphotos.net.ee/index.php?page=1&gallery=0&sfpg=TmVzdGUgT2lsIFJhbGx5IEZpbmxhbmQgU2hha2Vkb3duO yAyNy4wNy4yMDExOyBTb29tZS8qKioqKmI5NzdhMWJjN2VhMDR jNTNkYjczM2Q0NGM5NDc5ZjY1)

[Miika]

Some last-minute interviews from the top guys and the challengers today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MOh_hKM6lk

[mdesign]

Hi guys!
Where can i get the list and directions to spectator areas?
To get there do I need to buy the rally pass?
Last minute decision to view the rally :-)

[SubaruNorway]

Any cool video/photo spots on friday? What station is the rallyradio on again?

Went through ss2 Laukaa today, nothing special there.
Didn't have time to do Lankamaa, it's right at the finish where Quassimi and Linari rolled last year right?

[Hartusvuori]

For detailed information on spectating areas, parking options, etc., buy VM magazine's official spectator's guide. Blue covered bible available at most shops and gas stations. €10.

Qassimi's and three other crashed heavily at the "barnbend" right in the end of Lankamaa.

Now few hours of sleep and then to shakedown. It's starting now.

[mdesign]

Thanks, i'll try to get the guide
Do i need to buy the pass?

For detailed information on spectating areas, parking options, etc., buy VM magazine's official spectator's guide. Blue covered bible available at most shops and gas stations. €10.

Qassimi's and three other crashed heavily at the "barnbend" right in the end of Lankamaa.

Now few hours of sleep and then to shakedown. It's starting now.

[mdesign]

Thanks, i'll try to get the guide
Do i need to buy the pass?

For detailed information on spectating areas, parking options, etc., buy VM magazine's official spectator's guide. Blue covered bible available at most shops and gas stations. €10.

Qassimi's and three other crashed heavily at the "barnbend" right in the end of Lankamaa.

Now few hours of sleep and then to shakedown. It's starting now.

[Hartusvuori]

Thanks, i'll try to get the guide
Do i need to buy the pass?

Rally pass for entering stages and the spectator's guide are sold seperately.

[Hartusvuori]

Thanks, i'll try to get the guide
Do i need to buy the pass?

Rally pass for entering stages and the spectator's guide are sold seperately. If you are a VIP of your own life, you need the buy them both.

[A.F.F.]

You won't by any chance visit stage 11 on Friday night??

I was thinking about giving you a call :) Somewhere near P4 would be a great location to meet.

[A.F.F.]

Thanks, i'll try to get the guide
Do i need to buy the pass?

How many stages were you planning to spectate? You can get tickets from the stages but in the long run it'll be expensive. Rallypass gets you everywhere. Even in the backstage of Rolling Stones.
Oh, and get some spare change for parking. Parking tickets varies from 4-10 euros, dependiong the local Trumps who owns the fields :mark:

[mdesign]

Not sure how many stages so i'll just go for the pass.

[Racing Ka]

SD is live!

[Koppomsbo]

SD is live!

Any Links?

[Koppomsbo]

SD is live!

Any Links?

[6789]

Any times please post them guys :) Or if you find a link to the PDF times sheet. Go Go JML

[N.O.T]

the anticipation if finally almost over !!!

[Juha_Koo]

Östberg has gone off in the shakedown. Small off, lost control in braking and slid into a ditch. No damage.

Therman and Lindroos also having moments in the same place, but they kept it on the road.

[6789]

Hope they can get Mads back onthe road! Ah I love this rally!

[papar007]

Any Links?

+1000

[Hartusvuori]

Top 3 is Loeb, Ogier and JML at the moment. Times only on the radio. Some nice jumps. Mini's landing notable on the front. Novikov's doing many many runs.

[Donalduck]

Any Links?

+1

[A.F.F.]

Can someone please tell again what was the mobile friendly address to this forum?

[wildsir]

It's a theme, not a different URL.. U should see at bottoM of screen

[mm1]

Try taptalk

[AP-Racing]

http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/1107/87/72fe469092f5.jpg

[Koppomsbo]

The minis run quite equal :D

[Sorken_]

Well show is on!!!!!

2804

[makinen_fan]

seb seems to go quick and mikko is suprisengly behind! is it over or more runs to come?

[Donalduck]

http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/1107/87/72fe469092f5.jpg

Tnx!

[bluuford]

Pictures from shakedown: Galeriid - Postimees.ee - Ott Tänak ja tema kanged konkurendid Soomes kihutamas (http://www.postimees.ee/?g=4606&art=512362#164820)

[makinen_fan]

Pictures from shakedown: Galeriid - Postimees.ee - Ott Tänak ja tema kanged konkurendid Soomes kihutamas (http://www.postimees.ee/?g=4606&art=512362#164820)

is it so muddy in the stages? or is it just that one single corner. the rest of the photos show a pretty much dry gravel

super job to post photos so soon after shakedown

[papar007]

Results?

[makinen_fan]

Results?

Les DS3 devant lors du shakedown (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/07/28/les-ds3-devant-lors-du-shakedown/)

[fmcv]

The first 10 are well known. But where coan one find the full result list?

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_daef51a88c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_cb0a5ee111.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_3372d3da69.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_40c4ae25c6.jpg

More photos from shake HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=906&fseason=2011)

[Hartusvuori]

Citroens looked very quick on the shakedown, Fords more aggressive. It's only shakedown though.

I'm asking for times too. Any news on Mikkelsen compared to Lindroos? Mikkelsen looked to take very carefully. I only saw one runs from Tänak and Hänninen. Skodas landed more on the nose. Kruuda especially was all over the place.

And the weather: scorching hot! Some rain expected for tomorrow.

[dimviii]

Τhanks Jafry,excellent photos as always!!!

[papar007]

Les DS3 devant lors du shakedown (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/07/28/les-ds3-devant-lors-du-shakedown/)

Thanks

[COD]

The rally's homepage is quite slow and uniformative. "best WRC rally" my a**

[makinen_fan]

Citroens looked very quick on the shakedown, Fords more aggressive. It's only shakedown though.

I'm asking for times too. Any news on Mikkelsen compared to Lindroos? Mikkelsen looked to take very carefully. I only saw one runs from Tänak and Hänninen. Skodas landed more on the nose. Kruuda especially was all over the place.

And the weather: scorching hot! Some rain expected for tomorrow.

what about the Minis. do they look quick enough to challenge for some respectaple times?

[tolis]

Τhanks Jafry,excellent photos as always!!!
Dimitris, will you follow the rally this weekend?

[dimviii]

Dimitris, will you follow the rally this weekend?

you have pm

[Miika]

what about the Minis. do they look quick enough to challenge for some respectaple times?

Meeke/Sordo might challenge the customer Fords(?), Ketomaa for example looked and sounded dissapointedly mild compared to the factory duo Latvala-Hirvonen. So a customer car is again just a customer car (hopefully I´m wrong). And about the Citroens, they looked so well-balanced over the jumps, not a sign of the nose or the rear getting away in the jumps (compared to the Fords and Minis). Even the formula one champion looked like a jumping king after a few practise rounds.

[Hartusvuori]

what about the Minis. do they look quick enough to challenge for some respectaple times?

It's hard to judge from just the looks, but after careful first runs works Minis picked up a spectacular style, jumping long but not landing exactly balanced. I catched Rantanen only twice, he's usual style, and even Therman and Oliveira looked somewhat spectacular "on air".

At Ruuhimäki jumps, I'd say records goes to Meeke, Ogier and Räikkönen.

I'm at SS1 Lankamaa, the famous barnbend. Lots of people. First row was said to be crowded before noon. First car after 17.15. I can hear my skin burning...

[makinen_fan]

It's hard to judge from just the looks, but after careful first runs works Minis picked up a spectacular style, jumping long but not landing exactly balanced. I catched Rantanen only twice, he's usual style, and even Therman and Oliveira looked somewhat spectacular "on air".

At Ruuhimäki jumps, I'd say records goes to Meeke, Ogier and Räikkönen.

I'm at SS1 Lankamaa, the famous barnbend. Lots of people. First row was said to be crowded before noon. First car after 17.15. I can hear my skin burning...

lucky you! i wish i was there too!

[dimviii]

onboard from Paddon
http://www.youtube.com/user/PaddonTeamGreen

[dimviii]

Nice photos from Petr Elias
eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Rally Finland 2011 (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1237&fotograf=35&all=1)

[RS]

Meeke/Sordo might challenge the customer Fords(?), Ketomaa for example looked and sounded dissapointedly mild compared to the factory duo Latvala-Hirvonen. So a customer car is again just a customer car (hopefully I´m wrong). And about the Citroens, they looked so well-balanced over the jumps, not a sign of the nose or the rear getting away in the jumps (compared to the Fords and Minis). Even the formula one champion looked like a jumping king after a few practise rounds.

I noticed Ketomaa's times in shakedown were quite poor but I am expecting some better performances in the rally when local knowledge should help more...

But if you are right then maybe we should take comments from the likes of Henning Solberg, Ostberg e.t.c. more seriously. I mean, what is the point in even turning up if they are going to be given a sub standard car, it only damages the reputation of the paying customer. Why do Ford do this? To protect their factory guys?

Maybe this won't change until the manufacturer points scoring rules change.

[rage82]

onboard from Paddon
http://www.youtube.com/user/PaddonTeamGreen

Very nice onboard! Thank you!

[Tomi]

I noticed Ketomaa's times in shakedown were quite poor but I am expecting some better performances in the rally when local knowledge should help more...

But if you are right then maybe we should take comments from the likes of Henning Solberg, Ostberg e.t.c. more seriously. I mean, what is the point in even turning up if they are going to be given a sub standard car, it only damages the reputation of the paying customer. Why do Ford do this? To protect their factory guys?

Maybe this won't change until the manufacturer points scoring rules change.

Or maybe the whinig stops when the guys understand that they get what they order and pay for, thats why the cars are called customer cars.

[Marre]

any livestreaming on internet today or is it only powerstage?

[dimviii]

How much time till the start of ss1?

[pettersolberg29]

15 mins I believe?

[dimviii]

15 mins I believe?

Thanks pettersolberg

[Francis44]

So an 23.79KM stage, should be a good example of things to come, let's see who's really going for it.

[makinen_fan]

do we expect significant time loss for road cleaning by loeb and mikko?

[N.O.T]

damn.... the rally starts today......

[N.O.T]

Greece and Finland are in the same timezone.

[Francis44]

Stage live.

[N.O.T]

no results at Výsledky Rallye: Mistrovství svìta (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/) ??? NOOOOOOOOO....

[Francis44]

Splits are working quite OK on wrc.com.

[makinen_fan]

Loeb is still in the middle of stage. not finished yet. mikko faste by 1.9 so far

[Francis44]

And Ogier faster than Mikko.

EDIT: No, slower in fact.

[dimviii]

no results at Výsledky Rallye: Mistrovství svìta (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/) ??? NOOOOOOOOO....

here
eWRC-results.com - results Neste Oil Rally Finland 2011 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=2368&stage=22217&category=&group=&section)=

[rage82]

It looks like that Miko has a brake problem

[Francis44]

Hirvonnen out of the fight.

[jerse]

Mikko having problems with brakes. Hitted a tree 'cause the engine cutted out.

[makinen_fan]

it's a shame if he indid loose too much time

seb says a lot of loose gravel

[dimviii]

Mikko +19,5 sec.........


edit +32!!! damn one possible winner out already.

[makinen_fan]

mikko apparently had an off.... bad start

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen has problems....

[N.O.T]

Brake problems for mikko....lets see they can be fixed without service....

[MikeD]

Acording to WRR Hirvonen hit a tree

[vkangas]

Engine lost power completely --> caused the off for Mikko

[N.O.T]

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. Damaged LR side "We went into one left in one hundred and engine died. I hit the tree."

thats why we need rally.cz results and not those useless wrc.com ones...

[J.Lindstroem]

Thats so bad for Mikko. Really awful start!

[makinen_fan]

i imagine he will loose his confidence from this. not what you are expecting from a factory car...

ogier is leading.... once again

[vkangas]

Live Finnish rally radio: YLE Areena (http://areena.yle.fi/player/index.php?channel=30&language=fi)
Most important stuff also in english.

[focus206]

Aaah, come on! Mikko already in problems :(

[jonkka]

Sordo is coming quite strong...

[logic]

Ford needs to do something about their reliability.

[logic]

Does any one else her think Kimi is a dick ?

[MikeD]

Great time by Sordo....

[jonkka]

her... dick...? :eek:

[rage82]

Very good stage time for Dani. Only 4 sec. behind Loeb

[Francis44]

You know WRC is growing yet again when Meeke is only 14th on the road.

[makinen_fan]

Does any one else her think Kimi is a dick ?

he was cool for F1, but not for rally

[dimviii]

her... dick...? :eek:
lol

[Woodeye]

You just might be one.

[logic]

her... dick...? :eek:

Sorry lol i meant Here.lol

[COD]

Nice time for Sordo! Go Mini!

Strange that Hirvonen never makes mistake, allways technical problems causing offs (last year "steering jammed", now "engine just died")

[dimviii]

Rantanen good 2nd split

[J.Lindstroem]

Rantanen is looking good!

[Micke_VOC]

Impressing start from the Mini´s again...


And hello everybody again, long time away from the forum for me.

[N.O.T]

WILSON M. / MARTIN S. "Not one of my favourite rally."

bah.....i wonder why....

[makinen_fan]

ketomma as well shows good speed in first spilts

[rage82]

Rantanen good 2nd split

Very good 3-rd split

[jonkka]

You know WRC is growing yet again when Meeke is only 14th on the road.

Yeh but Meeke seems faster than Ostberg...

[rage82]

Rantanen good 2nd split

Very good 3-rd split

[dimviii]

ketomaa -1,4 at 4th split!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vkangas]

Ketomaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[Woodeye]

Look at Ketomaa going. :)

[rage82]

Guys see Ketomaa

[vkangas]

Stay on road...

Stay on road...

Stay on road...

[J.Lindstroem]

And Ketomaa is second fastest.

[Micke_VOC]

Ketomaa top three maybe on the stage ?

[focus206]

Stay on road...

Stay on road...

Stay on road...

hahaha +1 :D
Impressive Ketomaa and impressive Mini!!!

[dimviii]

Rantanen also faster than works minis.Ok road is clear but is an astonishing time!

[Francis44]

Dont get your hopes up. Tomorrow Ketomaa's Fiesta will mysteriously stop working.

[logic]

Wow Ketomaa!!

[rage82]

Ketomaa is CRAZY !!! **** me he's now FIRST

[jonkka]

What the hell... :eek: Stage win?!?

[logic]

What were they saying about customer spec cars.

[Ondra WRC]

Fantastic time for Ketomaa :-)

[Micke_VOC]

Thumbs up for Ketomaaa =)

[focus206]

Fastest time for Ketomaa! :eek:

[J.Lindstroem]

Im sure Ketomaa wants to show the Wrc bosses that it is a huge mistake that he doesnt have a drive this year. He succeds with winning the first strage. Fantastic!

[COD]

Ketomaa fastest, and said he took easy when there was vibration in the car...

Also surprisingly fast for Rantanen

[Woodeye]

Ketomaa fastest. I've always known he is fast but this is amazing.