Rally Jordan

[Bobcat]

@Plan9 +1

And Loeb’s BS about his tactics... http://wrc.com/news/qa-sebastien-loeb/?fid=14532

[rage82]

Stage is on and Loeb is already 3.3 sec on the 3-rd split

[rage82]

Loeb faster with 6.7 sec just on the first stage

[jonkka]

Yet, at this rate it won't be until after four more stages that Seb will overhaul Seb.

[bluuford]

The times wrc.com is showing are complete mess...

[rage82]

they are working for me

[jonkka]

Loeb slower than Ogi on SS14 :eek:

[bluuford]

they are working for me

Yes, they are working.. but compare the times and differences it calculates

[rage82]

the others are also slower.maybe some problem with the dust?

[miksu]

i think dust would make bigger gaps. Maybe Ogier is on absolute limit...there wil be a crash soon.

[rage82]

everything is ok on my screen

[jonkka]

Veeery interesting...

[tmx]

I am not a fan of the slowing down but its just part of rallying these days.... No if you followed rallying, slowing down has been part of it for a long time. Not that I am a fan of it either. But what impressed me is how Ogier can keep up the speed starting first on the road.

[dimviii]

Pitty for Al Attiyah,stopped at 5km in ss 13

[Tom206wrc]

As a Ford fan I just hope the time loss for the DS3 and Ogier is as much as it was for Hirvonen.

As a PSA fan, I just hope Ogier can win ahead of Loeb, and Solberg to pass Latvala for third ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Fingers crossed the Hirvonen can get on the podium,...


He won't :p :

[jonkka]

No splits... but who'd even care...

[Red bull]

Apart from the opening round of wrc i dont see any prospect of the ford boys ever beating the seb duo in the remaing rounds of wrc,what a shame :p :

[dimviii]

No splits... but who'd even care...
me!

[dimviii]

Loeb couldn t go faster on this,or settled for second?

edit. hairpin mistake

[jonkka]

Wow... what do Citroen's know that we don't? Or are they genuinely slower?

[dimviii]

Wow... what do Citroen's know that we don't? Or are they genuinely slower?

the difference is when Citroens cleaning the road are loosing few seconds,while when Fords cleaning loosing a lot.
We have to say that for cleaning the road 5-7 sec in 20km ss is very little,comparing to Mikos loose yesterday.

[miksu]

Ogier has been driving very well. It will be a close battle

[dimviii]

Just one more ss with 10km for Ogier to clean the road.

[jonkka]

Ogi might just be able to retain his overall lead...

[jonkka]

Loeb just became 1st driver to score more than 2 stage wins in this rally... :)

[MikeD]

I think this is the best rally by Raikkonen being best of the rest after the five fastest rally drivers. Good for him.

[Rallyper]

Yeah, Kimi has improved a lot and will so do even more. Just hang on and see him drive more rallies and he will be faster. Hope he´s not stuck to lorrydriving for too long time though.

[tolis]

Day 1 Highlights: http://www.woop.gr/woopgallery/24160/wrc-2011-rally-iordanias-video (I hope it plays for you)
Day 2 Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtb9b6n0YPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5ZoFerzks

[Barreis]

Only in Greece.

[jonkka]

Again no splits

[MikeD]

Loeb 4.0 sec faster than Ogier on SS17

[MikeD]

Problems for PSolberg ... off the road ... stopped in stage

[jonkka]

Wow, JML cut the distance to leader to almost half...

[MikeD]

PSolberg - full crash - out of rally. Both are okay.

[miksu]

Wow!! JM!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

This will test Ogier's nerves - he is being hunted down by his two biggest rivals!

[miksu]

I have a feeling Ogier or Latvala wont finish the rally, but lets see.

[cali]

You have to admit, that JML is the only one who can break Citroen dominance and I hope he does it. Go JML!!!
It's getting very interesting, brilliant !!

[miksu]

Most exciting battle for win in ages! Is it because of first day was cancelled?

[MikeD]

Looks like Loeb is setteling for 3rd - maybe counting on one of the two others will crash.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Come on Jari-Matti, we need you to beat the Cits !!

[jonkka]

Geez what speed JML has...

[Francis44]

Unfortunately I think a major crash awaits us, the question is who.

[dimviii]

Unfortunately I think a major crash awaits us, the question is who.

50-50%chances for both :p :

[miksu]

Man, JM is on FIRE!

[jcatanho]

Looks like Loeb is setteling for 3rd - maybe counting on one of the two others will crash.
Maybe he settles for third and hope to get some extra points from the power stage. He is the only pilot to have scored points in every power stage this season!

[MikeD]

Maybe he settles for third and hope to get some extra points from the power stage. He is the only pilot to have scored points in every power stage this season!

I think you are right. He takes the points for 3rd ... save his tyres for the Power Stage. I think Hirvonen and Loeb will be fastest on that stage.

[jcatanho]

If JML does not crash he proves to be the only pilot to beat citroën in any non-tarmac event. He has the speed, can he be consistent?

[jcatanho]

If JML and Ogier do not crash in the next stage the power stage will decide the overall winner. It could be very interesting! JML and Ogier will push hard to win the rally. Loeb and Hirvonen will also push for extra points.
In the first pass through Mahes JML was 6s faster than Ogier. If he does it again he will be on the lead!

[dimviii]

I think you are right. He takes the points for 3rd ... save his tyres for the Power Stage. I think Hirvonen and Loeb will be fastest on that stage.
I wouldn t say that,as Ogier/Latvala had to push also for the win.The power stage will be amazing!

[MikeD]

I wouldn t say that,as Ogier/Latvala had to push also for the win.The power stage will be amazing!

But I think that Latvala and Ogier might have used their tyres and will focus on their fight, whereas Loeb and Hirvonen will be fastest ... but yes it will be massively interesting :)

[dimviii]

But I think that Latvala and Ogier might have used their tyres and will focus on their fight, whereas Loeb and Hirvonen will be fastest ... but yes it will be massively interesting :)


3 minutes for the Havoc! :vader: :bomb:

[miksu]

Wilson trying to find excuses getting his ass whooped by Raikkonen

[jonkka]

at split point 1, JML is +5,2 from the lead

[miksu]

Loeb giving up

[jonkka]

at split point 2, JML is +4,5 from the lead

[MikeD]

Great response so far by Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rocks in the road slowing Ogier !!

[MikeD]

Geee who are those idiots that once gain puts rocks on the road.

[dimviii]

Rocks in the road slowing Ogier !!

wtf????????

[jonkka]

at split point 4, JML is +1,2 from the lead

[Miika]

Epic, epic.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML up by 5.8 sec and leads :)

[jonkka]

Is it 0,1 diff?

[jonkka]

Ah, quite... 0,7sec

[miksu]

JML in the lead, baby!!!

[MikeD]

Now I would like to know if those rocks were removed when latvala came through. If that's the case they should cancel this stage.

[dimviii]

o,5 is the diff
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=81&filtr=

[bluuford]

Looks like Kimi has hit that blue rock...

[dimviii]

Kimi on problems

[Juha_Koo]

Way to go JML! Excellent, push it to the limit! :up:

[Red bull]

I think you are right. He takes the points for 3rd ... save his tyres for the Power Stage. I think Hirvonen and Loeb will be fastest on that stage.

ehh what does power stage mean,more fire?

[alleskids]

the espn link that I had is off line. does some one have a good link to the power stage?

[6789]

This will be a good result for Latval and the championship! Plus its on live TV :)

[tfp]

What time is the powerstage on? Excellent fight to the end, and no citroen podium lockout, go Latvala!!

[BVB Rallying]

Alleskids,
On http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=113609∂=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=113609&part=sports) you can find some livestream.
The site http://www.silversportz.co.uk/ works for sure from Hoogeveen, Nederland :)

[6789]

What time is the powerstage on? Excellent fight to the end, and no citroen podium lockout, go Latvala!!
Stage starts in 30 mins, but thye probably reverse order?

[alleskids]

ehh what does power stage mean,more fire?

power stage is the last stage of the rally, but the top 3get extra points (1st-3 points, 2nd-2, 3rd-1)

[Red bull]

Way to go JML! Excellent, push it to the limit! :up:

and beyooond!

[tfp]

Stage starts in 30 mins, but thye probably reverse order?

Awesome, cant wait!

[dimviii]

ehh what does power stage mean,more fire?

extra points for first 3 crews.

[alleskids]

@ BVB Rallying. then it should also work in Franeker, Nederland :lol:

[Red bull]

power stage is the last stage of the rally, but the top 3get extra points (1st-3 points, 2nd-2, 3rd-1)

wow looks like the citroen gravel jinx is going to be broken at last and maybe the rocks on the road wont be an excuse.

[Red bull]

Stage starts in 30 mins, but thye probably reverse order?

it better starts now am nearly bitting off my fingers all the nails are finnished!

[6789]

it better starts now am nearly bitting off my fingers all the nails are finnished!
Its going to be close I think, should be no issue with cleaning, my pick is Jari-Mati, 4 rallies and 4 winners, sounds good :)

[AndyRAC]

Great drive by Ogier, took a gamble to run first on the road, and it hasn't quite come off - but was prepared to lose in order to win. A great attitude to have. Drive of the Rally for me. Latvala and Loeb have done as expected due to their road position.

About time these dry, dusty events were either dropped, or moved to another time in the year - this is the third of four in a row - ridiculous. All we get are silly 'go slow tactics' - just makes the sport look a farce.

[wrc1600]

No if you followed rallying, slowing down has been part of it for a long time. Not that I am a fan of it either. But what impressed me is how Ogier can keep up the speed starting first on the road.
That was my point, I know that all those so called "tactics" are used by all. It is not drivers fault but to me it is just desgrace. At least they could put some effort and pretend some mechanical failur to be late. Fingers crossed for Ogier.

[N.O.T]

link for the live stage please.....the championship is on fire !!!

[dimviii]

link for the live stage please.....the championship is on fire !!!

Here Greg
http://www.fromsportcom.com/c-10.html it works in Greece

[6789]

http://premier--games.net/ works for me

[Fast Eddie WRC]

There should be more tarmac & snow events... there's too many samey dusty gravel rallies now.

Bring back the Monte & San Remo on tarmac.

[Red bull]

That was my point, I know that all those so called "tactics" are used by all. It is not drivers fault but to me it is just desgrace. At least they could put some effort and pretend some mechanical failur to be late. Fingers crossed for Ogier.

tic toc tic toc nearly time.

[N.O.T]

thank you for the links...

i wish latvala wins, his drive deserves it !!! but we will see.... the starting order tactics is annoying...i think they should change it soon because as it is now we only have 1 day of true competition.

[N.O.T]

close for ostberg.....

[6789]

close for ostberg.....
Yeah thought it was going onto its roof!

[N.O.T]

ok clowns are over....the real deal starts now.

[N.O.T]

latvala hit something.....4 seconds down.

[muscrae]

I could not follow the event much, but Loeb was close to the first spot, what happened to him?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes Mikko beat Loeb !

[N.O.T]

what a finish !!!!! Ogier to go now....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gutted for Jari :(

[N.O.T]

OGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR !!!!! WINNER !!!!!!!! pity for latvala but what a drive by OGIER !!!!!!!

[miksu]

****!

[MikeD]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES ... that was needed after NZ last year. JUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :D

[6789]

OMG!!!

[N.O.T]

Just crazy...the best motrsport in the wolrd !!!!

[MartijnS]

**** :(

[N.O.T]

without the mistake it would be latvalas rally...but ok the win came with driving for Ogier......we have a new king.

[6789]

That was awesome live! Both JML and Ogier on the limit in a big way!!!

[6789]

without the mistake it would be latvalas rally...but ok the win came with driving for Ogier......we have a new king.
Citroen have a new king i think

[N.O.T]

The championship is now crazy !!!!

[jonkka]

It's win for Ogi and closest win ever in WRC history, beating previous closest win of Gronholm over Loeb in 2007 New Zealand, also over televised final stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ford cant get any closer to Citroen than this and not win... unbelievable.

Such a shame JML lost 4.0sec at the first split...

What a final stage though from Ogier.

[AndyRAC]

Just crazy...the best motorsport in the wolrd !!!!

Absolutely!! F1 would kill for that kind of action - WOW!!!

[Barreis]

Wait for tarmac rounds.

[miksu]

voi vittu että vituttaa!!! aaaargh!!!!!!

[wrc1600]

That is the master of rally. Pitty for Jari but so glad Ogier takes all without silly, dirty plays.

[dimviii]

I could not follow the event much, but Loeb was close to the first spot, what happened to him?

Ηe went wide in a right easy corner.
Congrats to Ogier for THE win.Also congrats to Latvala,he is without doubt reborn again after some bad seasons.
What a finish!!

[Juha_Koo]

I don't have anything to else say than "perkeleen perkele!".

[dimviii]

Citroen have a new king i think

Dont erase Loeb so easy.He can also have a ''bad'' rally...Second half of championship has the asphalt rallies.

[Red bull]

Citroen have a new king i think

but wont rule for long,jari has just discovered a secret of getting up there.

[6789]

but wont rule for long,jari has just discovered a secret of getting up there.
Yeah true, I feel sad for Petter, doesn't look like his year so far. Maybe not adapting to the new cars so easily and with lack of testing this makes it harder

[dimviii]

are they right the championship points?
Loeb 75
Hirvonen 75
Ogier 69
Latvala 66

if so is very tight!

[Red bull]

let us wait for the next round and see if DR has a trick up his sleeves to beat the current teams,he must be praying for that to happen and say"if you want a rally car to beat the citroens and the fords it will probably have to be a MINI"

[fegh]

Great win, OGIER is definitely the new king of WRC ..... Gr N won by a young talented lebanese driver Nicolas Amiouni in a Evo 9 run by a lebanese team Motortune :)

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC New Standing 2011 season after Rally Jordan http://bit.ly/hzH5pU Loeb leads Ford & Citroen both lead

[alleskids]

The rally was won by a man who went flat out al rally. And was lost by a man who stopped on a stage for 10-12 seconds and losing the rally by 0.2 seconds. briliant. Ogiers karma was good this rally :)

[N.O.T]

If Latvala doesn't get a safe lead until germany the championship is lost for him.

[ProRally]

Just back from the service park, everybody packing up very fast.... trucks leave for boat tomorrow morning at 06:30.
What a rally, great fight, specially on the powerstage, I also thought 1 will go off, but it went down to the millisecond !!! (for the powerstage)
Great win for Seb2, good fight for JML but he must be gutted to loose by 0,2sec
Anyway, next Sardinia which is soon already....

[Juha_Koo]

JML telling Finnish media that he's "bloody disappointed".

[tfp]

JML telling Finnish media that he's "bloody disappointed".

Dont blame him.
Take my hat off to ogier though, a fantastic drive, and best of all, no team tactics!

[wrc1600]

Spirit of Rally to Ogier

[Brother John]

Absolutely thrilling end, congrats to Ogier and Latvala. Has Hirvonen really lost so much time to be as first on the road?
I hope it stays exciting until they are in Wales! :s mokin:

[Karukera]

A win and 28 points, a first in the season, great Balls of fire by Ogier, good that tactics didn't pay off this time.
Ogier is catching Latvala with 4 WRC wins.

Solid drive by Latvala. Time is up for him to be a serious contender in the pilots' title race.

Might be a bad rally for Loeb but he really seemed to be desenchanted and far from the two furious ahead.

Exciting down to the wire, want to live that again !

[dimviii]

If Latvala doesn't get a safe lead until germany the championship is lost for him.
Τhat counts the opposite for Loeb.Haven t got to push beyond limits knowing that there are 3 asphalt rallies in second half championship.

[alleskids]

JML telling Finnish media that he's "bloody disappointed".

He should be, loosing with 0,2 seconds is very ****. Loosing with 0,2 seconds while he has slowed down for 10 seconds the day before is very very ****. Ogier has won on pure speed, literaly. This magnifical win deserves to be remembered for ever.

[Hartusvuori]

Loosing with 0,2 seconds while he has slowed down for 10 seconds the day before is very very ****.

That is the tricky thing. Had Latvala not slowed down behind Loeb on Friday, the competition today wouldn't have been so tight. That's the paradox. But he could've slowed down for 0,2s less... Anyway, 0,2s is so little that it could've happened anywhere while clock was ticking, impossible to point it anywhere.

But this is not taking anything away from Ogier. He can drive to victory from the front, has done it now a few times, he's got the killer speed and after several misfires, his reliability to stay on road has returned - without missing the speed. JML and Mikko will have to face hell with Ogier in Finland.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_b5f418bb5d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_470c8e40aa.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_cb301b96c9.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_acfd58e84c.jpg

More photos from last sandy leg of Rally Jordan HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=855&fseason=2011) ;)

[Barreis]

Ogier won and that's it. At the end of the season it'll be seen who was right. PLUS: great photos.

[Barreis]

http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/jordan-2011-petter-off-on-ss17/?vid=2082&pg=1&srch_season=&srch_rallyid=&srch_teamid=-1&srch_driverid=-1

[Woodeye]

Great rally and great battle. More rallies like this, please! :)

[Barreis]

+1

[Juha_Koo]

http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/jordan-2011-petter-off-on-ss17/?vid=2082&pg=1&srch_season=&srch_rallyid=&srch_teamid=-1&srch_driverid=-1

Isn't that the Loeb's place? I remember Loeb having a close call on that crest too.

[blissard]

Holy moly.. check out the video on wrc.com of Petter's crash, scary stuff, on a ridge with people on each side of the road, a miracle he didn't hit anyone.

[Barreis]

They could be seriouslly injured.

[dimviii]

More photos from last sandy leg of Rally Jordan HERE[/B][/URL] ;)

Νice photos! my favourite
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=855&fseason=2011

[N.O.T]

those idiots taking photos instead of helping deserve a punch in the teeth.....sick dogs.

the accident was scary indeed....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Wow, saw some pics - looked like a bloody good rally!

[Fri]

My pics from saturday:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/wrc/04_jordan/03_szombat/index.htm

[Juha_Koo]

According to Anette Latva-Piikkilä (MTV3's rally reporter (sometimes in bikini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F86fZX8B9b4 ) :D ) Latvala was heard saying after the rally that "Whatever, I will take the win in Sardinia!" :up:

[N.O.T]

hmmm maybe....

[GINE]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_10e4ba700c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_83789e3bce.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_2c692f4f6f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/855/855_jordanska_rally_2011_5d33b56ce0.jpg

More photos from Jordan shake HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=855&fseason=2011) ;)

We were on the same corner in the shakedown!!!

[dimviii]

Some times about times between wrc 2,0 vs wrc 1,6 at Jordan.
2010 Jordan River 1 =Loeb 27,38min
2011 Jordan River 1 =Ogier 27,32 min
2010 Jordan River 2=Loeb 27,10min
2011 Jordan River 2 =Ogier 27,13min

2010 Kafrain 2 - 17.20 km =Solberg 11,43 min
2011 Kafrain 2 - 17.20 km =Latvala 11,48
2010 Kafrain 1 - 17.20 km =Solberg 11,54 min
2011 Kafrain 1 - 17.20 km = Solberg 12,11 min

2010 Yakrut 1 - 14.16 km =Loeb 8,30
2011 Yakrut 1 - 14.16 km =Loeb 8,30 !!!
2010 Yakrut 2 - 14.16 km =Latvala 8,21
2011 Yakrut 2 - 14.16 km =Latvala 8,15

2010 Bahath 1 - 12.53 km=Solberg 9,30
2011 Bahath 1 - 12.53 km=Hirvonen 9,30 !!!!
2010 Bahath 2 - 12.53 km =Loeb 9,17
2011 Bahath 2 - 12.53 km=Latvala 9,10

2010 Baptism Site 1 - 10.83 km =Loeb 5,21
2011 Baptism Site 1 - 10.83 km =Loeb 5,21 !!!!
2010Baptism Site 2 - 10.83 km=Ogier 5,25
2011Baptism Site 2 - 10.83 km=Ogier 5,21

So slightly faster the new generation also in gravel Jordan rally.

[dimviii]

We were on the same corner in the shakedown!!!

Tell us something more Lambros!!!!How did you see new generation wrc cars? Drivers lines?Come on!!

[GINE]

Tell us something more Lambros!!!!How did you see new generation wrc cars? Drivers lines?Come on!!

Didnt you see last night's ET1 wrc programme?
The new cars are spectacular!!! Better noise, more show, greater angles ( oversteer).
Times are now representatives of the best drives... If you go fast, you also look fast in the eye of the spectator. I would say that JML, Ogier, Loeb, Hirvonen and Solberg are a joy to watch!! Henning was fast yesterday, and Raikonnen was impresive, and i ecpected his perfomnce as this rally is an easy rally for someone with little experience. I mean that most of the stage is clear from trees boushes e.t.c and you can see the corners, so he can trust his pace notes. For the same reason, i expect kimi to be fast in the tarmac days of Catalunya rally.
In the S2000, nasser was clearly faster.

[dimviii]

Didnt you see last night's ET1 wrc programme?

I heard you at et1 but want moooooaaaar info!
driving between Loeb/Ogier?

[GINE]

I heard you at et1 but want moooooaaaar info!
driving between Loeb/Ogier?

It is unfair to judge from three-four passes. Ogier was very brave and with clean lines. It seems that the new car suits him. Loeb might need some more time to adapt. Bear in mind that the C4 was setup in his likes... I expect a fantastic fight between the four for the championship. Also an interesting thing was the speed of Miko on saturday.... Dont rule him out of the fight for the championship. It is the first time after many many years, that both teams can win any raly whith any driver... As for tarmac, i am not sure that loeb will win easily.. If ford is as strong as it is in gravel, Miko and JML can fight for good results.
We have Italy,Argentina, Greece, Finland, before we go to tarmac. And in Finland we will have the first upgrades of the 1.6 WRC cars

[Barreis]

It will be interesting.

[hype]

Our shots are also online now :-) http://www.rallyphoto.net


http://www.h3x.de/rallyphoto/forum/jordanien_01.jpg

http://www.h3x.de/rallyphoto/forum/jordanien_02.jpg

http://www.h3x.de/rallyphoto/forum/jordanien_03.jpg

http://www.h3x.de/rallyphoto/forum/jordanien_04.jpg

http://www.h3x.de/rallyphoto/forum/jordanien_05.jpg

[Barreis]

Nice photos.

[Camelopard]

Nice photos Patrik. i hope you enjoyed the event.

[hype]

Yes we did :-)
Rally Jordan is definitely worth visiting, if it will be run again.

[Fri]

jordan video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/020-rshu_rally_jordan_2011.htm

[Fri]

[quote="hype"]Our shots are also online now :-) http://www.rallyphoto.net

Nice!!

[Barreis]

Just watched coverage from Motorstv and it's much better then on ESPN. Also longer. :)

[tfp]

Just watched coverage from Motorstv and it's much better then on ESPN. Also longer. :)
Haha! :p
Hey, at least motors is free :D

[hype]

Haha! :p
Hey, at least motors is free :D

Not in Germany :(