RBR Mod Free Championship Rd 3 Rally Portugal

[tannat]

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NOTE: Please run rally directly through RBR not through RSRBR.


Rally Portugal Info
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30 November-6 December
RBR Mod Free Championship-Round 3

Rules
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Tyre choice is free for all stages
Pacenotes - Audio only, not visual
REDUCED Damage Setting
Gears-neutral lock and gear protection allowed
NO pacecar ghosts (see options menu) are allowed



Stages
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Day 1
SS1 – NewBobs I (Australia) - Good Weather- 10.1km
SS2 – Greenhills (Australia) - Good Weather – 6.0km
SS3 – Mineshaft (Australia) -Good Weather- 8.2km
SS4 – NewBobs II (Australia) - Good Weather – 10.0km

Day 2
SS5 – Prospect Ridge I (USA) - Good Weather -7.8km
SS6 – Diamond Creek I (USA) - Good Weather - 6.8km
SS7– Diamond Creek II (USA)- Bad Weather-7.1km

Day 3
SS8 – Greenhills (Australia) - Bad Weather – 6.0km
SS9 – Mineshaft (Australia) -Bad Weather- 8.2km
SS10 – Prospect Ridge II (USA) - Bad Weather – 7.9km


Total Distance - 78.1 km

Submitting times
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Please submit times by PM to Tannat by midnight, Monday, December 6.

Videos and screenshots welcomed and encouraged...

Cheers, and good luck!

Tannat

[tannat]

Stages
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Day 1
SS1 – NewBobs I (Australia) - Good Weather- 10.1km
SS2 – Greenhills (Australia) - Good Weather – 6.0km
SS3 – Mineshaft (Australia) -Good Weather- 8.2km
SS4 – NewBobs II (Australia) - Good Weather – 10.0km

Day 2
SS5 – Prospect Ridge I (USA) - Bad Weather -7.8km
SS6 – Diamond Creek I (USA) - Bad Weather - 6.8km
SS7– Diamond Creek II (USA)- Bad Weather-7.1km

Day 3
SS8 – Greenhills (Australia) - Good Weather – 6.0km
SS9 – Mineshaft (Australia) -Good Weather- 8.2km
SS10 – Prospect Ridge II (USA) - Bad Weather – 7.9km


Total Distance - 78.1 km

[Bruce D]

I'm putting in a official entry for this one, in the Citroen Xsara WRC, under the GRACE Motorsport banner as usual. Using this as an on-event experience rally while getting used to the WRC cars again.

[tannat]

I'm putting in a official entry for this one, in the Citroen Xsara WRC, under the GRACE Motorsport banner as usual. Using this as an on-event experience rally while getting used to the WRC cars again.

Welcome, Bruce D! :up:

[MrMetro]

My entry:


IronRooster92
Subaru Impreza 2003
England
Playstation 2
Logitech Driving Force EX steering Wheel
Team: Rooster Rallysport

[tannat]

My entry:


IronRooster92
Subaru Impreza 2003
England
Playstation 2
Logitech Driving Force EX steering Wheel
Team: Rooster Rallysport

Glad to see you make it for a round, Rooster :up:

[MrMetro]

Glad to see you make it for a round, Rooster :up:

aye, I'll see what I can do, I haven't had much experience with those stages, but I'll give them a go ;)

[tannat]

aye, I'll see what I can do, I haven't had much experience with those stages, but I'll give them a go ;)

Don't worry about your times, Rooster, just have fun :D

No one is cancelling your contract with Subaru even if you stuff it on every stage :laugh:

[MrMetro]

No one is cancelling your contract with Subaru even if you stuff it on every stage :laugh:

:D
I don't know about that tannat, look what happened to Mikko Hirvonen at the end of the 2004 season ;)

[tannat]

:D
I don't know about that tannat, look what happened to Mikko Hirvonen at the end of the 2004 season ;)

:laugh:

[tannat]

Tannat
USA
Citroen Xsara

ps29
UK
Peugeot 206

Macd
Scotland
Subaru '00


Frozzy
Scotland
Hyundai accent (?)


Neverknow
Estonia
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII


Neil J
England
Subaru Impreza `03


IronRooster
England
Subaru Impreza '03

Bruce D
South Africa
Citroen Xsara

[MrMetro]

thats more like it, a nice selection of entrys :)

[Neil J]

Yep. I`m in. Looking forward to this and hopefully frustration wont get the better of me this time and I`ll make it to the end.

:)

[MrMetro]

Change of machine for me, I'll be using the PC version instead

[tannat]

Have already heard from NeverKnow (he caught the route error).
This promises to be a good round :up:

[Frozzy]

i will be here this time not sure about the hyundai though :S

[pettersolberg29]

I'm here too in the 206 still. Hope, but probably in vain, that gravel is as good as snow for me!

[MrMetro]

This promises to be a good round :up:

It sure does :)

[tannat]

i will be here this time not sure about the hyundai though :S


Feel free to change, Frozzy

[Bruce D]

My entry:


IronRooster92
Subaru Impreza 2003
England
Playstation 2
Logitech Driving Force EX steering Wheel
Team: Rooster Rallysport

To put my entry into the official format then:

BruceD
Citroen Xsara WRC 03
South Africa
PC
Logitech G25
Team: GRACE Motorsport

[Bruce D]

I've attached a simple Time Card for people to use to record their times if they want.

[MrMetro]

My college got closed today because of the snow we have, so me thinks its a day of Richard Burns Rally :D

[Bruce D]

Ah, life is indeed good! :p

[tannat]

I've attached a simple Time Card for people to use to record their times if they want.


Thanks, Bruce D!

Processing times is taking me in the region of 90 minutes from first time entry to forum posting...

[Bruce D]

Yeah that part does take a long time, especially with longer rallies. The timing software does make it a little faster though. I find the whole processing the images and calculating the championships etc takes a long time.

[MrMetro]

Well my rally ended on stage 4; I went slightly too fast into a corner, hit a tree and busted my engine.

Its a shame really, because I was happy with my pace in the previous stages. My main aim for the next rally is to finish.

[tannat]

Well my rally ended on stage 4; I went slightly too fast into a corner, hit a tree and busted my engine.

Its a shame really, because I was happy with my pace in the previous stages. My main aim for the next rally is to finish.

Your honesty is appreciated, Rooster!

If you like feel free to complete the rally and submit the rest of your times for comparison. I'll simply note in the resulst that you retired on SS4.

[MrMetro]

Your honesty is appreciated, Rooster!

If you like feel free to complete the rally and submit the rest of your times for comparison. I'll simply note in the resulst that you retired on SS4.

Or I could return under superally conditions, e.g, add 3 o 5 mins to my stage 5 time

[tannat]

Or I could return under superally conditions, e.g, add 3 o 5 mins to my stage 5 time

Nope-no supperally allowed in this championship :devil:

[MrMetro]

Nope-no supperally allowed in this championship :devil:

Ok then, I think I will start practicing for the next event (Greece, am I correct?)

[tannat]

Ok then, I think I will start practicing for the next event (Greece, am I correct?)


That is correct. Focus on Japan and USA stages :D

[MrMetro]

That is correct. Focus on Japan and USA stages :D

Sure will ;)

[Bruce D]

Tannat I kicked the bucket on SS5, but I'll take your offer of doing the rest of the stages as a test session, as I'm using this event as a mini-test for the MF Cup.

[tannat]

Tannat I kicked the bucket on SS5, but I'll take your offer of doing the rest of the stages as a test session, as I'm using this event as a mini-test for the MF Cup.


Sorry to hear that, Bruce D...

Looks as if evryones McRae genes are overexpressing on this rally.

Please do continue to use the rest of the stages as a test :up:

[MrMetro]

Sorry to hear that, Bruce D...

Looks as if evryones McRae genes are overexpressing on this rally.

Please do continue to use the rest of the stages as a test :up:

Thats my biggest problem. Most rally games teach you to go fast, but it dosen't work like that. When I'm doing a stage on RBR, I think "I'm going too slow" I then speed up and crash, like I did on New Bobs II

[MrMetro]

After doing some more testing, I have decided to use the Toyota Corolla for the next round. I got a good feeling from this car :)

[tannat]

After doing some more testing, I have decided to use the Toyota Corolla for the next round. I got a good feeling from this car :)

Sounds good, Rooster :up:

[MrMetro]

It sure is, the Corolla feels more nimble than the Impreza and less heavy, which gives me more confidence through the corners.

I've got to say those USA stages are pretty tough, I haven't tried the Japan stages yet, but as you know, I'll be there for the Greek rally ;)

[Bruce D]

I still find the notes on Diamond Creek II to be shocking, the calls are accurate (mostly) but just way too late, especially in the rain. Anyway, finished what was left of my rally last night, setting some decent times. I'm interested to see how I went on this one while I was still in it.

[Neil J]

Well that wasn`t easy at all. I managed to finish this time but I had ever so many moments even though I was concentrating so hard, once the weather turned I found things even more difficult, it was almost darkness in Diamond Creek I couldn`t see a thing. I really enjoyed it though, I love the speed of the USA stages and was really getting a feel for the bad condition towards the end . . . even if my times dont show it :)

[NeverKnow]

I have done my rally. It was very tough event and I'm glad that I finished. I took it quite carefully and probably wasn't that fast time wise. Most of the event I struggled with the car in slow corners (doing setup changes after every stage) and I'm considering a car change on the next event.

I hit a tree on SS3 when I misunderstood pacenote and thought the road would go left but instead it went to the right. I hit it with the left side but I think it was only cosmetical damage.

On SS5 I had a halfspin.

On the last stage of the rally everything went well until the downhill section. It has caught me out previously multiple times and tried to take it easy but still managed to have a spin and hit a tree. It cracked radiator and caused some suspension damage. I ended up the wrong way and it took me quite some times to get going again. Later into stage I nearly understeered into the trees but managed to stay on the road. With engine boiling I managed to finish the stage, probably the engine would not have lasted much longer.

[tannat]

Completed my rally. Diamond Creek 1 and 2 caused me the biggest frights.

On DC1 first I drove off the stage into some thick brush-but no damage. Second the car went into a low speed spin when I hit the brakes and tapped a tree-thankfully little or not damage.

On DC2 a roll, numerous drive offs, and I nailed some rockas past the first timing mark at the very end and recived the critical damage pop up. I called for assistance and crwaled to the end, with a very slow stage time.


I've not heard from PS29. I have yet to receive his times...

[Bruce D]

Told you, DC2, crap pace notes.

[pettersolberg29]

I'm not late am I? Still 10 hours till midnight for me!

Done days 1 and 2 - going consistently ok. Mineshaft was a nightmare but I came out with an ok time depsite the puddle of sweat underneath my chair! Didn't like the wet stages much - cautious but hopefully not too much. Will finish soon.

[pettersolberg29]

Rally finished and times sent. All gone well except the last stage which went badly, but could have gone much worse. I managed to drive for about 200m on two wheels and squeezed through two trees on the side of the road while at a bizarre angle so could have been more serious.

[tannat]

I'm not late am I? Still 10 hours till midnight for me!

Done days 1 and 2 - going consistently ok. Mineshaft was a nightmare but I came out with an ok time depsite the puddle of sweat underneath my chair! Didn't like the wet stages much - cautious but hopefully not too much. Will finish soon.

Apologies-forgot deadline was tonight :D

[Frozzy]

meh had a terrible rally broked the car on the first stage so a retirement for my this event :-(

[tannat]

meh had a terrible rally broked the car on the first stage so a retirement for my this event :-(

Almost 50% retirements on this one-a tough rally.

Should we revisit these stages in the future I'll opt for a kinder route :)

If retirements persist I may implement a superally system...

[Bruce D]

Hmm, maybe you should bring in a superally system, as a lot of these guys are more rookies than the seasoned MF Cup guys, with all due respect. It's meant to be fun, not over in 10sec.

For my part, it was just bad driving that cost me a finish.

[lcd]

Hmm, maybe you should bring in a superally system...

Agreed. A superally system will raise a kind of competition between retired drivers and will give them a motive to finish the rally.

[Bruce D]

Still keeping an eye on things here, are you LCD? ;)

I do agree, it gives guys who've gone off once a chance to find a secondary fight.

[lcd]

Still keeping an eye on things here, are you LCD? ;)

Always do. ;)

[tannat]

The big jump about 1km before the end of the stage-do you guys take it flat, lift, brake, or brake heavy?

It is the latter for me....

[NeverKnow]

Can't remember that there was a big jump near the end. Do you have the big crest in mind that is followed by 5th/6th gear left and right corner just before the finish line. If that is the case, I take it flat out and sometimes slightly sideways to get into the corners.

If you had something else in mind. Look this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHeqDuItCI) and tell when it is on the video.

[Bruce D]

Depends how many runs I do through the stage beforehand. Mostly its a lift, but sometimes I take it flat, especially if I'm really pushing.

[pettersolberg29]

The only time I've ever done that flat resulted in that tree on the inside of the final 6 right being smashed and my engine dying. Never again!

How about Mineshaft? I always break to a standstill almost then drive over the edge as I dont want to retire. What do others do? I have gone full speed over it before and landed no problem but I think thats more luck than judgement.

[NeverKnow]

I too almost crawl to a stand still, about 80kph if memory is correct. I have tried going faster but it almost have caused atleast some suspension damage and sometimes some spectacular crashes.

[tannat]

WHOOPS-I meant mineshaft :)

Have some time-about to work on results...

[Neil J]

Mineshaft - I always back right off, maybe try and get a little air time on occasions with a blip on the throttle :)

[tannat]

The RBR Mod Free Championship arrived in Portugal anticipating rough gravel roads, high speeds and big jumps. Every anticipation was met, yet they were also greeted with some wet and treacherous stages which resulted in nearly 50% attrition for the event.

Day one started innocently enough-bright skies and clear stages. Sadly the Hyundai of driver Frozzy was caught out on the first stage-rally over. It was a back and forth day between PS29 and Neverknow with the Peugeot driver (PS29) winning SS1 (narrowly) SS3 and SS4 with the Mitsubishi driver taking SS2 by 1/100th of a second. Series newcomer Bruce D made his presence known with many fine times in the Xsara. Tannat had an off on day followed by Neil J at the days close. Subaru pilot IronRooster retired from the rally on SS4.

Day two was a day of wet and slippery conditions ending a fine drive by Bruce D on the first stage of the day (running the rest of the rally under non points scoring conditions). PS29 swept all stages from Neverknow, and Neil J set some fine times in bad conditions to take third place from Tannat while the Citroen driver struggled with the challenging conditions.

Day three was much the same as two with two dry one wet stage, but it didn’t slow down PS29 as he swept all stages and the win. NeverKnow held on to take second after a somewhat eventful rally, and Tannat was able to take third place as the Subaru of Neil J met with problems on the final day of the rally. A noteworthy mention for Bruce D who set many times on the rally both before and after his accident and retirement on SS4.

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[tannat]

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[tannat]

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[tannat]

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[tannat]

Apologies for the view size-if it is not readable let me know and I can repost.

[tannat]

After 3 rounds...

Driver's Championship

1-PS29-------------30 (3 wins)
2-NeverKnow-------24
3-Tannat-----------18
4-Neil J--------------10
5-Frozzy-------------4


Manufacturer's Championship

1-Peugeot----------30
2-Mitsubishi---------24
3-Citroen-----------18
4-Subaru------------10
5-Hyundai-----------4


Acropolis rally begins next Monday, December 13 :up:

[MrMetro]

After seeing my stage times, I am not disappointed. I am a rookie to RBR and I am up against some great competition. There is much work to be done. I'm confident I can improve ;)

Congrats to Petter Solberg29 for the victory :beer:

[tannat]

After seeing my stage times, I am not disappointed. I am a rookie to RBR and I am up against some great competition. There is much work to be done. I'm confident I can improve ;)




I am confident you can as well. I had a rough intro to our league with LCDs championship of a year ago. Practice, patience, and focus on finishing...

Here to help if you ever need it :up:

Tannat

[MrMetro]

I am confident you can as well. I had a rough intro to our league with LCDs championship of a year ago. Practice, patience, and focus on finishing...

Here to help if you ever need it :up:

Tannat

cheers man, the problem I have at the moment is I'm going too fast. I keep thinking I'm going too slow, when I'm probably not, so I push the car too much.

I was all over the place in the 1st stage, the car was hard to control as I was pushing too much, which led to a couple of mistakes. But, I'm going to keep practicing :)

[tannat]

cheers man, the problem I have at the moment is I'm going too fast. I keep thinking I'm going too slow, when I'm probably not, so I push the car too much.

I was all over the place in the 1st stage, the car was hard to control as I was pushing too much, which led to a couple of mistakes. But, I'm going to keep practicing :)

"To finish first you first must finish" :)

The Oz stages are quite slippery-you might first try setting up on the Rally School or non-bumpy USA stages to get a base gravel setup.

Do you think you have your wheel dialed in properly? I'll stress again the use of the filters and fade settings in the options menu for controllers.

Steering angle under suspension setup is another good place for adjusting steering input

[Bruce D]

I'm very happy with my stage times, especially the final leg, things went very well. Pity about the off on Prospect Ridge 1 but it was good practice and looks like I'll be able to put up a decent fight in the coming events.

[tannat]

I'm very happy with my stage times, especially the final leg, things went very well. Pity about the off on Prospect Ridge 1 but it was good practice and looks like I'll be able to put up a decent fight in the coming events.


I was impressed :up:

[MrMetro]

Does anybody know what settings to adjust in RBR to make the throttle less sensitive?

[NeverKnow]

Does anybody know what settings to adjust in RBR to make the throttle less sensitive?
You can try and change filter settings in Options -> Controls -> Filter Settings -> Throttle -> Axis in RBR. Try changing Curvature and Curvature 2 to your liking. You can only change throttle response to certain extent (like 25% registers as 15%) but 100% throttle will always remain 100% throttle.

[pettersolberg29]

Cheers tannat and well done to all. Again, despite the win its good to see how close the battles were as I only won one stage by a large time period. Good to see my general pace improving - last year I was average, but the long summer gave me a lot of practise time and the acquisition of a gamepad made me much, much quicker. Looking forward to Greece.

[Bruce D]

"To finish first you first must finish" :)

The Oz stages are quite slippery-you might first try setting up on the Rally School or non-bumpy USA stages to get a base gravel setup.

Do you think you have your wheel dialed in properly? I'll stress again the use of the filters and fade settings in the options menu for controllers.

Steering angle under suspension setup is another good place for adjusting steering input

Actually I've found that Harwood Forest is a good test stage. You get the car setup for the bumps there and it serves you well in other stages like the Japan and USA stages. That stage tends to have a lot of stuff you'll find on other stages in it and its a 3min stage so you learn how to stay on the road and get the settings to your liking.

[tannat]

By the way, Bruce, I'm lovin the software :up:

[Bruce D]

It does make life easier, doesn't it? I wish I had it when I was doing really rally results on our regional events.

[steve_spackman]

I am waiting for my wheel to come through the mail. Once i have this set up i shall be entering a RBR championship on a full time basis. Been waiting to do this for a while now. Cant wait to see you guys out on the stages

[Bruce D]

Great news Steve, great to have you back again! :D

[tannat]

I am waiting for my wheel to come through the mail. Once i have this set up i shall be entering a RBR championship on a full time basis. Been waiting to do this for a while now. Cant wait to see you guys out on the stages

Good to see you back around, SS :up:

[MrMetro]

I am waiting for my wheel to come through the mail. Once i have this set up i shall be entering a RBR championship on a full time basis. Been waiting to do this for a while now. Cant wait to see you guys out on the stages

Welcome back steve, I've noticed your name in one of the older RBR Championships.

[steve_spackman]

Thank you guys for the warm welcome backs..

Team is in place. Been doing testing sessions and pleased with how things are going. Will be entering the next RBR Mod Free Championship. Any info when and where the next event is?

[steve_spackman]

Will run the Mod Free Championship and wait for the RSRBR 2011 to come out as i was told its out in a weeks time.

Looking forwards to seeing you guys on the stages.

[tannat]

Thank you guys for the warm welcome backs..

Team is in place. Been doing testing sessions and pleased with how things are going. Will be entering the next RBR Mod Free Championship. Any info when and where the next event is?

Next round will start tomorrow-Acropolis using japan and US stages