RBR MF Cup - S3 - Rnd 2 Sweden

[Bruce D]

Swedish Rally Event Info
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12-14 November 2010
RBR MF Cup Season 3 - Round 2

Rules
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Open to WRC, S2000, N4-N1 and A7-A5 cars
Tyre choice is free for all stages
Pacenotes - Audio only, not visual
One SuperRally per leg, 3min penalty for each SuperRally used.

Stages
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SHAKEDOWN - Kaihauvaara II (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 6.1km

Leg 1
SS1 - Kaihauvaara (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 6.1km
SS2 - Mustaselka (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 7.9km
SS3 - Sikakama (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 10.2km

Leg 2
SS4 - Autiovaara (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Bad - 6.1km
SS5 - Mustaselka II (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Bad - 7.7km

Leg 3
SS6 - Sikakama II (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 10.2km
SS7 - Autiovaara II (Finland) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Good - 6.1km

Total Distance - 54.3km

Entries
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Send your entries to BruceD by PM or by email to [email:6165gupe]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:6165gupe] Entry info as follows: Name, Country, Team, Car.

Submitting times
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Start each stage using the "RSRBR2009" button under the "play alone" section, do your stage. The time will be recorded in the window at the bottom of RsCenter. If its not recorded, you did something wrong. Use "public sessions" tab and "Go" button for BTB stages.

Once you have completed the stages you wish to do, select the File menu and click on "Save times" The times are saved to your RBR directory under the folder "MyTimes". Once you have done all the stages, send all your html files to [email:6165gupe]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:6165gupe] to be scored. Please note that more than 1 html file can be submitted so you don't have to do all the stages at one time.

Non-RSRBR users
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REcord your time and split times and mail them to the above email address.

PAST WINNERS
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Season 2 - NeverKnow - Subaru Impreza WRC S14

Entries open immediately. Rally and entries close at midnight Tuesday 16th November 2010

[Bruce D]

I'll carry over existing entries from the first round, let me know if you're changing cars. And any new entries are welcome. To remind everyone, that list was:

Num Driver Driver Nat. Car Group Team
1 Francis44 Portugal Citroen Xsara WRC 05 WRC Baker Motorsport
2 NeverKnow Estonia Subaru Impreza WRC 09 WRC OMV Red Bull Rally Team
3 Macd Scotland Ford Focus WRC 09 WRC OMV Red Bull Rally Team
4 LCD Greece Mitsubishi Lancer WRC 05 WRC GRACE Motorsport
6 Tannat USA Peugeot 206 WRC WRC Equipe au Dublin
7 Paul Minnaar South Africa Subaru Impreza WRC WRC GRACE Motorsport
9 Raybak Australia Ford Focus WRC 09 WRC Baker Motorsport
11 52Paddy Ireland Skoda Fabia WRC 07 WRC Equipe au Dublin
12 ps29 UK Ford Focus WRC 09 WRC OMV Red Bull Rally Team
14 Blazquez Spain Mitsubishi Lancer WRC 05 WRC Ralliart

[pettersolberg29]

Great - looking forward to this one very much. Glad to see every stage is an original too so no problems for me. Hopefully the Ford will be as good on snow as it was on tarmac and get me a nice ol' podium.

[tannat]

I've been testing for these stages and 206 is fine here compared with updated machinery.

No change in entry for me :up:

[lcd]

No entry change for me either.
Schedule looks so snowy :D and so great.
Looking forward to this!

[lcd]

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8324/swedish.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/swedish.jpg/)

[tannat]

Is it me or does Mikko's helment look crooked?

[lcd]

ha ha right! Seems pretty scared there to find some time fixing It! :D

[pettersolberg29]

Completed shakedown with very mixed results. Found it nearly impossible to stay on the road due to the bumps and negative camber. I must have rolled and not finished the stage about 6 times before actually setting a time! First time was a 3:38.70 including a small roll, then as I got into the rhythm I set a 2:29.38 which was a PB, but bearing in mind I rarely save my profile, my best times often get deleted so dont read much into that. Very interested to see others SD times to see where on earth my pace is. My consistency = awful so I need speed at least...!

Also Recce'd every other stage once and felt much better on every other stage, especially Sikakama which I think will be decisive in this event. You can go flat out for large percentages of the stage if you have the balls, but some (including myself!) may go slightly slower and therefore be more certain of finishing without crashing. I loved Mutsaselka (sp?) and look forward to setting a competitive time on it.

So, over to others so I can see SD times! :)

[Francis44]

Bruce I will change my entry to an C4 WRC 2009.

[lcd]

How about setting a rule (for those using RSRBR2010) each rally raced one way out, without running each leg separately, just like In online races?

[Macd]

But its not always possible to do the whole event in one go.

[tannat]

I've been testing for these stages and 206 is fine here compared with updated machinery.

No change in entry for me :up:

Actually I'll be swapping to an 09 Focus :D

[Bruce D]

I agree with Macd, this is meant to be offline and therefore free for people to do it in their own time, so it'll stay like it is.

[pettersolberg29]

I see a few people have changed machinery - I find the Focus very easy to control on (almost) all these snowy stages whereas the C4 feels really awkward to me.
Anyway, any other SD times yet?

[tannat]

I see a few people have changed machinery - I find the Focus very easy to control on (almost) all these snowy stages whereas the C4 feels really awkward to me.
Anyway, any other SD times yet?

Well I got a baseline time on this stage with the 206-really wasn't happy with it. Then swapped to the Focus and dropped 6 seconds by the second intermediate...This stage highlights the shorcomings of the 206 whereas another Finland stage overlooks them.

I'd give a time, but I kept wrecking in the final sector!!!

I'm probably looking at a low 3:50-high 3:40 range...

On autivaara I could tease out no difference between the 206, the 09 Focus, and a Fabia, but it wasn't as technical as the latter portion of the shakedown stage.

[lcd]

I agree with Macd, this is meant to be offline and therefore free for people to do it in their own time, so it'll stay like it is.

Just a thought guys! Didn't mean to force you Into anything...

[tannat]

The difference in the personality of these stages is amazing...

You drive on Sikakama which is a flat blast through the snow...

Then go to a stage like Mustselka which is frsutratingly technical....

[pettersolberg29]

I know what you mean - Sikakama went well for me, but Mustaselka didn't feel good. There are so many bumps that you are constantly wrestling the car even down a straight!

[lcd]

Had to make a clean Install of RBR In order to test Citroen DS3 2011 beta,
so I'm staying that way for the rest of the season-Non RSRBR2010 mode using.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7503/richardburnsrallysse201.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/richardburnsrallysse201.jpg/)


Following the rules, got my Mitsubishi Lancer 2005 WRC model+physics from
RBR Czech - http://rbr.onlineracing.cz/index.php...nload&cat=1000 (http://rbr.onlineracing.cz/index.php?act=download&cat=1000)

[lcd]

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/387/shakedown.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/shakedown.jpg/)

[tannat]

Man-that is just awesome, LCD :up:

[pettersolberg29]

That is awesome LCD, and it's nice to have another non-RSRBR user.

NB: in case anyone was wondering, in an earlier post I said I did a SD time of 2:29. Obviously I meant 3:29!! :D

[lcd]

I'm telling you one thing: this rally would never been possible done one way out! :D
By the end of leg1, was feeling exhausted!The first 3 stages, had almost everything;
twisty technical and open fast parts full of hidden dangers! Think I did quite well though...
Been fast enough and very carefull at the same time. Don't know If Is It just me,
but returning back to non mod, gameplay felt much smoother, than through RSRBR.

[tannat]

The difference in the personality of these stages is amazing...

You drive on Sikakama which is a flat blast through the snow...

Then go to a stage like Mustselka which is frsutratingly technical....

Autiovaara II has a bit of a nightmarish start with some flow at the end...

I prefer it the other way around :p

[pettersolberg29]

Hey Bruce, is it OK if I have two entries for this rally - one as a WRC entry and also a S2000 entry? I have tried the Fabia S2000 around here and on some stages I'm within 10s of my WRC time (although I struggled on Sikakama)!

[Bruce D]

Sure you can do, but the S2000 one will be a non-points scoring entry. But you can enter as many times as you feel.

Glad to hear people are finding this one tricky. I thought it was tricky last year but I thought I was the only one. Guess not.

[tannat]

Some of the youtube videos of these stages are positively amazing..

Its as if the fronts are magnetized to some hidden superconductive magnet underneath the road, and the rear is a precisely controlled pendulum with crystal ball-like knowledge of the road.

I'm not there yet :(

[Bruce D]

No, there are some guys on a different planet. Thats when it goes from realistic to unrealistic IMO though.

[pettersolberg29]

I'll be at Rally GB this weekend so I will send times on Monday.

[NeverKnow]

Finished the shakedown for this event. I concentrated more on getting good setup for the car, not the best stage time. Started with default setup (which was pretty horrid for me) and after 5 passes finished with a setup I liked. Anyway the best time I got was 3:49,42 on the last run. There was space for some improvment but not much.

[tannat]

My nerves are so jittery after driving some of these stages I must take a short break to settle down before proceeding... :s pin:

[tannat]

My nerves are so jittery after driving some of these stages I must take a short break to settle down before proceeding... :s pin:


..and my right thumb is cramping from pushing the "GO" button so hard!

Took a bump wrong on SS3 Sikakama, but just completed a good Day 1.

On to day two...

[NeverKnow]

I have finished my rally. I had ups and downs. Favourite stages were for me Sikakama I & II. They had great flow and I really enjoyed driving on those stages.

Day one went without any problems, few small driving errors here and there. I tried to get into a rhytm.

Day two I started the same way and expected similar grip as on first day. Then I went too fast into a left hand corner and hit something with the rear right of the car. Luckily I managed to stay on the road and lost maybe few seconds. Later into the stage I also was too fast for a corner but this time I tried to correct it. I spun instead and ended up going backwards. Had to stop the car and do 180 to get going again. Lost maybe 10-15 seconds due this incident. SS5 went without major problems, just few driving mistakes in slow corners.

SS6 went ok but on the next stage I struggled to keep the car on the road. I couldn't get any rhytm and probably lost lots of times there.

Few pictures (http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/t6nns/RBR%20MF%20Cup%20-%20S3%20-%20Rnd%202%20-%20Sweden/) from my rally.

[Bruce D]

Got times from Macd, Francis44 and NeverKnow so far. Looking at the times I'd say this season is going to be very interesting and much closer than last season. Seems like people have raised their games.

[pettersolberg29]

I've finished Legs 1 and 2. Felt very good in the Focus although there were so many times I nearly rolled or ended on 2 wheels as I tried to get right into the apex.Will finish tonight.

In the Fabia S2000 things have gone even better. I'm thinking about which entry to have as my points scoring entry. Is there an S2000 cup or SWRC Bruce where my Fabia points would count? If not I'll enter with the Focus. But with the Fabia I'm only 50s off my Focus pace after 5 stages and that includes a stage (Sikakama) where I lost at least 25s with engine stalling problems and a roll.

Looking forward to the results. I think my pace last year was good so hoping for a good result in 2010.

[Bruce D]

There is a S2000 cup but nobody has entered it this year at the moment. Better to use your WRC entry IMO.

[lcd]

Rally complete. I think Leg1 was my best of all.
In Leg 2 had some visibility problems and Leg3 was kind of slow I'd say.
In general, It was as fun as a snow event can be! :D

Hope you enjoy my highlights:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8533/richardburnsrallysse201e.jpg
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7503/richardburnsrallysse201.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7503/richardburnsrallysse201.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1950/richardburnsrallysse201cs.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2702/richardburnsrallysse201l.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9787/richardburnsrallysse201h.jpg

[tannat]

Rally complete. I think Leg1 was my best of all.
In Leg 2 had some visibility problems and Leg3 was kind of slow I'd say.
In general, It was as fun as a snow event can be! :D



Good to see someone using the Lancer :up:

It looks as if it likes to spend a great deal of time in the air :p

[lcd]

Hopefully most of my landings were almost successful! ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Finished the rally now. Loved the pace and rhythm I got in the Fabia S2000 and the Focus. Hope to get a good result for OMV Redbull and very interested to see my pace with the S2000.

[tannat]

In an effort to encourgae entries for the Mod Free championship I will gladly accept any times from this rally which fit the stages for the Mod Free Sweden raound.

In other words-you will not have to run those stages again.

[Bruce D]

Sorry guys, got delayed today so I'll have results up tomorrow, hopefully in the morning.

Just on another note, I'll be returning to the series from Portugal onwards, but this time in the WRC class having successfully negotiated a deal with Citroen for a C4 (they're going cheap these days ;) ) Finished the skin today and I'll start testing for Portugal this week, hopefully with some decent results.

[tannat]

Just on another note, I'll be returning to the series from Portugal onwards

EXCELLENT! Good to have you back, Bruce D! :up:

[Bruce D]

FINAL RESULTS

A dominate win for Ps29 but Macd still leads the championship. Results book will be out later today hopefully.

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[Bruce D]

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This round did not count for either the Tar or Gravel championships.

[lcd]

Very nice! All stage times are so close.
All drivers are less than a minute from 1st!

[tannat]

Had hoped for a bit more from this one-5th bit of a disappointment, but everyone was really quite fast. Set some good stage times. Fun stages and fund conditions :D

Cheers to all for a good event... :up:

Equipe au Dublin is 2nd for teams!!!!! :D

[pettersolberg29]

Really happy with my 2nd ever win - overall result makes it look easy but I didn't win any stages by a mile. Very impressed by the level of competition - as LCD says everyone within 1 minute in the stages.
That's my two best events of the season done now - gravel hasn't been my friend in the past but I'm looking forward to Portugal already.

[Macd]

Pleased with my results so far this season, we're already gone one better than last year. Hopefully we can keep this up over then season, get a few more wins and see how we're placed at the end of the year. I'm happy that the consistency is finally there and we can give these guys a run for their money. to finish on the podium in the championship this year again is my aim and maybe a place (or two :P) above last year. I'm looking forward to, and hoping to actually finish, Portugal this year :)

[Bruce D]

Yeah Macd it's been an interesting start so far. Should be good to see how the order changes when we hit gravel and tar. So far these 2 events have been one offs whereas the next few should get everyone's attention.

[Bruce D]

BTW our very own Paul Minnaar has finished his first part of work on the Roy Hesketh race track and has posted it over at No Grip. http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30167

[tannat]

BTW our very own Paul Minnaar has finished his first part of work on the Roy Hesketh race track and has posted it over at No Grip. http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30167

Is this the same Hesketh of the ill fated F1 team from the 70's?

And the ill fated Le Mans effort of the late 70's?

[Blazquez]

Sorry guys i have to quit the RBR MF Cup for a while, 2 reasons.

1. Working hard on my own rally car so i got less time for games at the moment. Because all my free time goes in the rally car

2. they deleted the Mitsubishi lancer WRC 05 after the last RBR patch T.T Dont know hwo to get my beauty back!

[Bruce D]

Is this the same Hesketh of the ill fated F1 team from the 70's?

And the ill fated Le Mans effort of the late 70's?

No, this is a totally different Hesketh. I don't actually know the story of Roy Hesketh, but the track was built in 1951 and discontinued in 1981. The stupid thing is it was closed because they wanted to make a housing complex out of the area and naturally, even though the race track was there first, these stupid people complained about the noise and had the track closed. Tragically, even today 95% of the circuit still exists and they still have fun events there, only the final corner has been removed for houses.

If you go these coordinates in Google Earth you'll see what the track looks like now, they've just added a loop at the end of the lap to bypass the houses.

29°37'19.66"S
30°25'28.69"E

[Bruce D]

BTW some pics showing off my new skin and testing from last night.

http://i55.tinypic.com/jj7kwm.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2sacf89.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hmq2k3.jpg

[tannat]

With divine sponsorship I expect to see this car go quite fast :)

[Bruce D]

So long as it prevents me from crashing so often I'll be happy. :D

[Macd]

Just a wee bit of constructive critism; the colours look quite harsh, try toning them down a wee touch and it'll look more realistic.

[Bruce D]

But thats the point to be bold and "harsh". I hate toned down colours...

[tannat]

Results book? :D

[Bruce D]

Oh, er, yes that would be a good thing to sort out. My bad!!!! :(