2011 european rally championship

[Raven]

maybe the engine is not replaced in the Fabia already.
That's the reason.

Renato said also that Fiesta is the only S2000 car he never drove. He provbably thinks about official cars, as I don't remember him in Polo, Corolla, Auris or ZR not mentionig "inventions" from Africa or South America :-) Proton was testing in Italy so maybe he was one of the drivers considered for IRC?
Travi definitely has that x-factor that allows him to be fast in every car.

[mousti]

I think also he has not much time needed to adapt to a car, the big talented guys like Duval, Ogier, Latvala etc. have no problem at all to adapt to new cars. Some have some not, and for me it seems Fiesta is the best car on gravel atm for S2000.

[PLuto]

His usual car has broken engine from Croatia. And there are no free Fabia for rent to Turkey. And it looks that Renato will really start, I have meet him today in the hotel.

[mousti]

His usual car has broken engine from Croatia. And there are no free Fabia for rent to Turkey. And it looks that Renato will really start, I have meet him today in the hotel.
Good news! Biggest favorite to get the win, I hope he get it after the bad luck!

[Tom206wrc]

Me hopes Luca Betti will win in Turkey :p :

[PLuto]

Renato will start with car from Pro Race.

[PLuto]

Some photos from test of Antonin and Burcu - www.AutoSport.CZ • Zobrazit téma - Bosphorus Rally [ERC] (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=50454#p50454)

[Raven]

Some photos from test of Antonin and Burcu - www.AutoSport.CZ • Zobrazit téma - Bosphorus Rally [ERC] (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=50454#p50454)
SJJ's work as a teacher must be very, very hard in this case. His student is rather thick-headed :D

[tolis]

49 instead of 56 crews started Bosphorus Rally. No Iliev, no Rzeznik.
Start List: Bosphorus Rally 2011 - List of crews authorised to start - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/bosphorus-rally-2011/start-list/authorized-to-start/)
Live Results: Bosphorus Rally 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/bosphorus-rally-2011/)
Stage win for Oleksowicz!!! Travaglia is leading, second is Yagiz Avci (+2.4'') and third Oleksowicz (+5.1''). Next stage is in 1 hour from now!!!

[mousti]

Reason why Illiev and Rzeznik not started?

Is this end of their program? :s


Everything seemed ok when I wished Yanakiev good luck..

[PLuto]

Rzeznik told after Croatia, that he doesnt like R4. He wants continue in S2000, but car isnt ready. Iliev was here, he done all recce, but his car stayed on border... (according to my info there is more trucks from motorsport events which werent allowed to enter into Turkey in time)...

[mousti]

Rzeznik told after Croatia, that he doesnt like R4. He wants continue in S2000, but car isnt ready. Iliev was here, he done all recce, but his car stayed on border... (according to my info there is more trucks from motorsport events which werent allowed to enter into Turkey in time)...
Wow that sucks especially for Illiev and then u have paid for entry and stuff. If I hear about Rzeznik he seem to continue to ERC although he can't compete at the moment! Hope it's in Ypres all fine then if he comes :p . Thanks Pluto for the info. Hope u enjoying it there in Turkey :D

[PLuto]

Turkey is very specific country. Sometimes little bit chaotic, but it is my first experience in Asia (we are living in asian part of Istanbul). So very exciting experience, also with very interesting local stages.

[mousti]

Turkey is very specific country. Sometimes little bit chaotic, but it is my first experience in Asia (we are living in asian part of Istanbul). So very exciting experience, also with very interesting local stages.
I could imagine that, it's a country who had this century and previous century government problem and stuff. Probably indeed nice stages, Turkey has alot of nice landscapes! Travaglia going well but Olek again too!

[GL Media Pro]

Online the onboard of Renato Travaglia (Ford Fiesta S2000) on SS 4 to Bosphorus Rally. on:

FIA ERC Web Channel TV (http://erc.ellegy.tv/index.php?gara=133&s1=1)

[Wim_Impreza]

Burak Çukurova (Fabia S2000) retired. Yağiz Avcı is leading after SS7 just 0"9 ahead of Travaglia.

[Jarek Z]

Change of the leader after SS7. Yagiz Avci, second on this stage, takes the lead. Travaglia is 1 second behind him and Oleksowicz further 7 seconds. It's 1-2-3 for Fiesta S2000 at the moment :)

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Luca Betti can reach podium :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Burçu Cetinkaya :confused:

[Jarek Z]

I don't know where Burcu is, but here are some great photos from the rally by Dominik Kalamus:
ERC - European Rally Championship 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/photo.php?page=1&cont=158)

[tolis]

Travaglia out???

[PLuto]

Burak Çukurova (Fabia S2000) retired. Yağiz Avcı is leading after SS7 just 0"9 ahead of Travaglia.

Burak crashed on tarmac part of SS 5

[PLuto]

Travaglia out???

Yes. On SS 10 he hit the stone which was in the middle of road. Result? Broken cooler and suspension.

http://forum.autosport.cz/download/file.php?id=1295&mode=view

[Wim_Impreza]

Thank you for the information.

[mousti]

Poor Renato :(

[Mirek]

Yes. On SS 10 he hit the stone which was in the middle of road. Result? Broken cooler and suspension.

Quite strange to find such a big stone in the middle of the road when he was first one on stage. It must have been there from previous run. Strange that safety cars didn't remove it...

PS You can't put link to autosport.cz forum attachment into image brackets in this forum. That doesn't work.

[Tom206wrc]

Really nice job from Luca Betti :cool:

[mousti]

End of Travaglia's ERC program? And what with Illiev and Rzeznik after the DNS in Turkey because of car not ready and problems with Turkey.

[Mirek]

Rzeznik will continue for sure. I think Iliev also. Nothing is lost, only 3 events are counted from each half of the season (I think).

[mousti]

Rzeznik will continue for sure. I think Iliev also. Nothing is lost, only 3 events are counted from each half of the season (I think).
Yanakiev told me they would wait for Bosphurus if they doing Ypres or not. I hope you're right Mirek!

Offtopic: u coming to Ypres or not now? :)

[Jarek Z]

And what with Illiev and Rzeznik after the DNS in Turkey because of car not ready and problems with Turkey.

I don't know about Iliev, but Rzeznik didn't appear in Turkey, because there was not enough time between the events in Croatia and Turkey to organize everything. On the next weekend he will compete in Karkonoski Rally instead. This time he will drive Peugeot 207 S2000. I don't know what car he will choose for the next ERC rounds.

Travaglia really has a bad start of the season. Hopefully the sun will shine for him again very soon!

[Mirek]

Offtopic: u coming to Ypres or not now? :)

Finally not for various reasons. I hope to come next year.

[mousti]

Finally not for various reasons. I hope to come next year.
Damn I hoped to meet u there, oh well next year then maybe :D

@Jarek: I hope so will probably 207 Mirek have stated he wouldn't start with a Fabia. If we get like Illiev, Rzeznik and Travaglia it will be a new record if everyone start in Ypres then!

[Jarek Z]

I have just read that Oleksowicz was the fastest driver of the third leg. This third place in Turkey is the biggest success in his whole career. In the rain he is slow like he used to be, but when the conditions are good, he is sometimes even faster than guys like Travaglia and Longhi! It's amazing!

http://foto.rallyonline.pl/news_tmp/11bosphorus01oleksowicz_podium_460.jpg

[Mirek]

Maciek is without doubts the nicest surprise of the ERC season so far!

[tolis]

Maybe you mean in ERC...
Bosphorus Rally 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/bosphorus-rally-2011/?leg=3)

[Jarek Z]

Yes, I meant ERC drivers only. Overal he was second, behind Avci.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I told you , Oleks was really surprisingly fast in Croatia and also here . Two 3rd places , not something you would expect from the guy who sat in that Fiesta last year :)

[tolis]

Yes, I meant ERC drivers only. Overal he was second, behind Avci.
You mean 2nd behind Çukurova (http://rally-base.com/results/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=62&crewId=8174&leg=3). :)

[mousti]

You mean 2nd behind Çukurova (http://rally-base.com/results/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=62&crewId=8174&leg=3). :)
Bosphorus Rally 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/bosphorus-rally-2011/?ssId=599&cupId=36&leg=3)

No..

There is not a Turkish driver registered for ERC.

[tolis]

Bosphorus Rally 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/bosphorus-rally-2011/?ssId=599&cupId=36&leg=3)

No..

There is not a Turkish driver registered for ERC.
Oleksowicz was first in ERC in Leg 3 and second overall behind Cukurova (in Leg 3). That's what I said. :)

[mousti]

Oleksowicz was first in ERC in Leg 3 and second overall behind Cukurova (in Leg 3). That's what I said. :)
My bad didn't saw that Jarek said he said behind Avci :) :D

[Jarek Z]

You mean 2nd behind Çukurova (http://rally-base.com/results/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=62&crewId=8174&leg=3). :)

Of course you are right again. I'm very tired today :)

After Bospohrus Rally Luca Betti takes the lead in the ERC:
ERC - European Rally Championship 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/standings.php)

[V.Gatev]

Some on-boards from Todor Slavov's car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVe4tEWLGYhttp://www.youtube.com/user/BulbetRallyTeam?blend=6&ob=5 (http://www.youtube.com/user/BulbetRallyTeam?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/h2WMR1gR2m8)

[mousti]

So the man who had the least chance to enter Ypres, has entered! Luca is topfavorite to win it (ERC I meant the Abarth can't go against the top 207's and top Fabia's)! Hopefully can Pluto bring us some more news about the other men like Travaglia if he want to compete against Rossetti in 3 weeks :)

[mousti]

Granai, Renato's confirmed they'll not start in Ypres and he also don't know what they'll do in the future this season. For such a pilot that's bad news :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

As I was expecting after 2 retirements in a row... :(

[Jarek Z]

Travaglia had a very bad start, but he still has a chance for the final success. 8 best results count in ERC and there are still 8 rallies to be held. We are only after 3 rounds out of 11. Good luck to Renato! :)

[Mirek]

4 of each half of the season count to be precise. So it's a bit worse for him but yes, nothing is lost... besides a lot of money...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

But his ERC programme was for 6 events... e already did 3 and only one good result at 1000 Miglia...

[PLuto]

I don't know about Iliev, but Rzeznik didn't appear in Turkey, because there was not enough time between the events in Croatia and Turkey to organize everything. On the next weekend he will compete in Karkonoski Rally instead. This time he will drive Peugeot 207 S2000. I don't know what car he will choose for the next ERC rounds.

Travaglia really has a bad start of the season. Hopefully the sun will shine for him again very soon!

http://foto.rallyonline.pl/news_tmp/11news0rzeznik_barwy_460.jpg

[mousti]

Pluto u know that Rzeznik will enter in Ypres and Illiev ? I know
Rzeznik will drive Karkonoski but nothing else

[mousti]

Why is that edit button always dissapear :s

Daniele Mangiarotti Co of Elia Bossalini said he thinks he'll start in Ypres with Bossalini but entries closes at 10 June :O

[Mirek]

I think that edit is available only for ten or fifteen minutes.

[mousti]

I think that edit is available only for ten or fifteen minutes.
Should be longer, that would avoid double posts like I just did.

[GL Media Pro]

Is Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 "40. Bosphorus Rally 2011" on the new Web TV Channel of ERC:
FIA ERC Web Channel TV (http://erc.ellegy.tv/) or ellegy.com (http://www.ellegy.com/) "FIA ERC Web Channel TV"

[mousti]

Great job Luca! Superfootage on the stages and nice onboard footage like when Betti breaks the joystick for the gears.

Big dissapointment of Travaglia, after first day saying he enjoys it so much and then get struck with a stone ala Latvala in Argentina :(

Didn't expect such rough roads, the damage outside of Betti's car says enough :p

Olek almost even killed a dog :o

[GL Media Pro]

Great job Luca! Superfootage on the stages and nice onboard footage like when Betti breaks the joystick for the gears.

Big dissapointment of Travaglia, after first day saying he enjoys it so much and then get struck with a stone ala Latvala in Argentina :(

Didn't expect such rough roads, the damage outside of Betti's car says enough :p

Olek almost even killed a dog :o

Many thanks mousti!!!

[mousti]

Rzeznik will get back to ERC in Bulgaria! He didn't say any reason why he isn't in Ypres though but he'll continue ERC. Illiev will start Bulgaria offcourse because of his national rally but if he's continueing ERC...

[Tom206wrc]

I guess Krum Donchev will also run Bugaria :confused:

[PLuto]

Krum Donchev will start in his home event, but this year he isnt registered into ERC.

[Jarek Z]

Luca Rossetti announced that he will compete in the Rally of Poland. Also the Belgian team MY Racing will bring their Citroen DS3 R3T to Poland. They haven't yet revealed the name of the driver. The rally will be held on the gravel stages of Mazury lake district in September.

[mousti]

Luca Rossetti announced that he will compete in the Rally of Poland. Also the Belgian team MY Racing will bring their Citroen DS3 R3T to Poland. They haven't yet revealed the name of the driver. The rally will be held on the gravel stages of Mazury lake district in September.
With Belgian driver or a Polish one?

[RICARDO75]

Acording autosport.pt, Bernardo Sousa (Ford Fiesta S2000) and Armindo Araujo (Mini J.C.W S2000) are almost certain in the Rali Vinho Madeira, with rented cars by the organization of the rally.
Maciej Oleksowicz is the only driver from ERC that showed interest in participating

[mousti]

Acording autosport.pt, Bernardo Sousa (Ford Fiesta S2000) and Armindo Araujo (Mini J.C.W S2000) are almost certain in the Rali Vinho Madeira, with rented cars by the organization of the rally.
Maciej Oleksowicz is the only driver from ERC that showed interest in participating
How come the organisation can pay the rent of a Mini and a Fiesta and not answer their contract with the IRC..

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Acording autosport.pt, Bernardo Sousa (Ford Fiesta S2000) and Armindo Araujo (Mini J.C.W S2000) are almost certain in the Rali Vinho Madeira, with rented cars by the organization of the rally.
Maciej Oleksowicz is the only driver from ERC that showed interest in participating

That's false.
Drivers where contacted by organisation and said that they are available to come if the organization give them money to rent the cars or organization rent a car for them.
They are no almost certain... from telling "I'm available" to be almost certain there is a huge gap...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

How come the organisation can pay the rent of a Mini and a Fiesta and not answer their contract with the IRC..
Paulo Fontes, president of organisation of Rally Vinho Madeira, said that the problem was only a question od deadline for the payment... according to him, the money that organization should received earlier from "Turismo de Portugal (or something like that...)" was enough to pay the fee to IRC... as the payments are delayed, organisation didn't had money to pay the fee of IRC in time... so IRC decided to exclude Madeira...

[RICARDO75]

]That's false.
Drivers where contacted by organisation and said that they are available to come if the organization give them money to rent the cars or organization rent a car for them.
They are no almost certain... from telling "I'm available" to be almost certain there is a huge gap...

Maybe you're right, but that's what I read here
Armindo Araújo e Bernardo Sousa na Madeira? - Autosport.pt (http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/97987)

[mousti]

]Paulo Fontes, president of organisation of Rally Vinho Madeira, said that the problem was only a question od deadline for the payment... according to him, the money that organization should received earlier from "Turismo de Portugal (or something like that...)" was enough to pay the fee to IRC... as the payments are delayed, organisation didn't had money to pay the fee of IRC in time... so IRC decided to exclude Madeira...
Bad timing for the organisation, IRC has his right to do that though. They may now hope it'll be there again on the calendar next year on the IRC :) , they can their money for then :p

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Maybe you're right, but that's what I read here
Armindo Araújo e Bernardo Sousa na Madeira? - Autosport.pt (http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/97987)

Autosport publish a lot of news that... :s mokin:you know

[mousti]

Thanks to Superstage and Eurosport!

Will Luca of Ellegy not broadcasting a program around Ypres! What a bullsh*t thing to do! I was very curious about Ellegy's video for Ypres :(

[GL Media Pro]

Thanks to Superstage and Eurosport!

Will Luca of Ellegy not broadcasting a program around Ypres! What a bullsh*t thing to do! I was very curious about Ellegy's video for Ypres :(
Mousti, all organizers of ERC had agree to our ERC promotion, Ypres no... from beginning.... so, we found solution for other IRC/ERC races... but not for Ypres where organizer not want that his rally will be broadcast in 90 countries of world from us, also in HD. Appointment with ERC TV Magazine to Rally Bulgaria .... just few days... after Madeira.... Barum.... Asturias.... Poland... Antibes.... Valais....

[GL Media Pro]

Is Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 "A summary of the first three races of the season" to:
FIA ERC Web Channel TV (http://erc.ellegy.tv/)
This episode replaces the Geko Ypres Rally because, only for this round of European Rally Championship 2011, there have not been granted the broadcasting rights.
Confirmed the "ERC TV Magazine" in all future rounds of the 2011 championship.

[mousti]

Mousti, all organizers of ERC had agree to our ERC promotion, Ypres no... from beginning.... so, we found solution for other IRC/ERC races... but not for Ypres where organizer not want that his rally will be broadcast in 90 countries of world from us, also in HD. Appointment with ERC TV Magazine to Rally Bulgaria .... just few days... after Madeira.... Barum.... Asturias.... Poland... Antibes.... Valais....
But still it's stupid of Superstage to do this, I don't see why they don't allow it, this is again nice promotion. But yeah Belgians who are on higher levels are sometimes idiots look at our government..

Can't u share it private :p

[tolis]

Entry list of the 8th round, 48. Rally Principe de Asturias will be announced today. 7 foreign entries (Rami Jaber, Maciej Rzeznik, Maciej Oleksowicz, Giovanni Vergnano, Antonin Tlustak, Szymon Ruta and Luca Betti) and 8 S2000.

[Jarek Z]

The entry list is here:
http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2011docs/inscritos-erc.pdf

[Ucci]

Entry list of the 8th round, 48. Rally Principe de Asturias will be announced today. 7 foreign entries (Rami Jaber, Maciej Rzeznik, Maciej Oleksowicz, Giovanni Vergnano, Antonin Tlustak, Szymon Ruta and Luca Betti) and 8 S2000.

You've forgot Rok Turk from Slovenija http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/spin2.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/spin2.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/spin2.gif

[GL Media Pro]

Online HD Video Barum Rally 2011, Official TV Magazine of European Rally Championship by Ellegy :
FIA ERC Web Channel TV (http://erc.ellegy.tv/index.php?gara=163&s1=1)

[Mirek]

Online results from Asturias: Rally Príncipe de Asturias 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/rally-principe-de-asturias-2011/?ssId=776)

Oleksowicz, Rzeznik and Gracia already out with technical problems...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

GT cars are going really well once again!!!

[Jarek Z]

Oleksowicz, Rzeznik and Gracia already out with technical problems...

It's not 100% true with Oleksowicz and his technical problem. He entered a corner a little too fast and hit a curb with rear tyre damaging the suspension. He is going to return tomorrow under superrally regulations.

Two Porsches still faster than Hevia's Skoda. It's a shame that you cannot compete with a Porsche in ERC...

[Mirek]

The problem is that these particular Spanish GTs are supercup cars.

[tolis]

Day 1 photos from Principe de Asturias: Autosport : ME - Rallye Príncipe de Asturias (ME) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=55&id=873&autor=34)

[Mirek]

Berti Hevia just won 10th stage out of 10 run so far...

[Ucci]

Berti Hevia just won 10th stage out of 10 run so far...

I think you are not right-Miguel Fuster was the winner of the rally. He was THE FASTEST through whole rally...and do not give me crap that the 911 GT3 is faster, better.....If somebody drives Space Shuttle and he is fastest of all, than we must congratulate to him. Still you must come to the end, whatever you drive. We discussed all this before. And for me the winner is Fuster!!

[Wim_Impreza]

I think you are not right-Miguel Fuster was the winner of the rally. He was THE FASTEST through whole rally...and do not give me crap that the 911 GT3 is faster, better.....If somebody drives Space Shuttle and he is fastest of all, than we must congratulate to him. Still you must come to the end, whatever you drive. We discussed all this before. And for me the winner is Fuster!!

This is the European Rally Championship thread, so you don't must pay attention to Fuster who is driving almost a Space Shuttle. Those GT cars aren't normal GT cars and has much more horse power then in every other country where they have GT cars and the Spanish roads and the weather, there is almost never rain, really suits this cars.

[Mirek]

I think you are not right-Miguel Fuster was the winner of the rally. He was THE FASTEST through whole rally...and do not give me crap that the 911 GT3 is faster, better.....If somebody drives Space Shuttle and he is fastest of all, than we must congratulate to him. Still you must come to the end, whatever you drive. We discussed all this before. And for me the winner is Fuster!!

Yes, Fuester was faster, but not under ERC regulations.

[Jarek Z]

Did anybody notice, that Santiago Canizares, the legendary goalkeeper of FC Valencia was also competing in Rally Principe de Astiruas? Any photos of his Suzuki Swift?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x1w9f3kXWq8/TMbCij14CeI/AAAAAAAABxA/vWC4mqS4mHY/s1600/Canizares.jpg

[PLuto]

Did anybody notice, that Santiago Canizares, the legendary goalkeeper of FC Valencia was also competing in Rally Principe de Astiruas? Any photos of his Suzuki Swift?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x1w9f3kXWq8/TMbCij14CeI/AAAAAAAABxA/vWC4mqS4mHY/s1600/Canizares.jpg

I wrote about his competition in Spain in February - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11742)

[tolis]

Entry List of Radl Polski published: http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/zawodnicy/68-Rajd-Polski---lista-zgloszen.pdf
Nice to see Rossetti back in ERC.

[PLuto]

Entry List of Radl Polski published: http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/zawodnicy/68-Rajd-Polski---lista-zgloszen.pdf
Nice to see Rossetti back in ERC.

This was planned for a long time to do Rajd Polski after Madeira with missing on two events...

[br21]

Entry List of Radl Polski published: http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/zawodnicy/68-Rajd-Polski---lista-zgloszen.pdf
Nice to see Rossetti back in ERC.

Anyone attending this event?

[Wim_Impreza]

The only surprising team in the entry list is #19 Ramona Karlsson/Miriam Walfridsson.

[Jarek Z]

Anyone attending this event?

No way! :)

[Tom206wrc]

Entry List of Radl Polski published: http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/zawodnicy/68-Rajd-Polski---lista-zgloszen.pdf
Nice to see Rossetti back in ERC.


I was really expecting Bryan Bouffier to be there :(

[Wim_Impreza]

I was really expecting Bryan Bouffier to be there :(

Bouffier will be in the IRC Rally Sanremo in that weekend.

[Tom206wrc]

Oops sorry indeed :mark:

[tolis]

FIA European Rally Championship 2012-Calendar
05-07/01 International Jännerrallye
19-21/04 Rally Mille Miglia
24-26/05 Croatia Rally
08-10/06 Rally Bulgaria
22-24/06 GEKO Ypres Rally
06-08/07 Bosphorus Rally
26-28/07 Rally Vinho da Madeira
31/08-02/09 Barum Czech Rally Zlín
13-15/09 Rally Principe de Asturias
28-30/09 Rally Poland
12-14/10 Rallye Antibes Côte d’Azur
25-27/10 Rallye International du Valais

[focus206]

Glad to see Janner in the calendar, I like that rally :)
Maybe it will be also the first round of 2012 IRC.

[Jarek Z]

Hard to believe, but the next year's ERC calendar is even more idiotic than this year.

[dimviii]

from 5-7 January the next rally is on 19-21 of April.

[tolis]

12 rallies is too much.

[N.O.T]

ERC is dead long time now.....i wonder why it exists anymore.

[Mirek]

According to autosport.cz an obligatory registration for ERC drivers is canceled since 2012. So again everyone starting is going to take points...

[Jarek Z]

ERC is dead long time now.....i wonder why it exists anymore.

Probably because each organizer (out of 12 now!) pays lots of money to FIA to have their ERC round :/

[tolis]

Current leader in ERC, Luca Betti didn't start in Poland.

[PLuto]

Glad to see Janner in the calendar, I like that rally :)
Maybe it will be also the first round of 2012 IRC.

No, Janner wont be in IRC.

[PLuto]

ERC is dead long time now.....i wonder why it exists anymore.

I dont agree with you, but we have different opinion about it for longer time ;)

[focus206]

No, Janner wont be in IRC.

Too bad. They were talking about a snow event for the opening round of IRC 2012, now that Monte is back in WRC...

[PLuto]

Too bad. They were talking about a snow event for the opening round of IRC 2012, now that Monte is back in WRC...

Maybe Arctic...

[N.O.T]

a logic solution would be that the IRC european rounds count for the ERC, but then you would have the problem that the champion of IRC and ERC would most likely be the same...Another idea would be to ban S2000 cars from the championship so you attract all the N4 dinosaurs and the 2 wheel car drivers of europe, plus you reduce costs and make it more accesible.

a 12 round series sure is stupid....7-8 sounds more like it.

meh... i cannot see the series having any interest at all...no matter what you do.

[PLuto]

a logic solution would be that the IRC european rounds count for the ERC, but then you would have the problem that the champion of IRC and ERC would most likely be the same...Another idea would be to ban S2000 cars from the championship so you attract all the N4 dinosaurs and the 2 wheel car drivers of europe, plus you reduce costs and make it more accesible.

a 12 round series sure is stupid....7-8 sounds more like it.

meh... i cannot see the series having any interest at all...no matter what you do.

ERC and IRC will be together very soon. I agree that best solution should be 6-7 events, but nobody is listening us. I think that ERC in last years isnt so bad, it is good idea for private drivers to fight for high places on different events over Europe. It is easy to be fast on home field...

[focus206]

I agree, to me 8 rounds would be right, now they are too much.

[Jarek Z]

Who makes the decision to include a new rally into the ERC calendar?

[Raven]

Who makes the decision to include a new rally into the ERC calendar?

The guy with money? :D

[Sulland]

If the ERC is to get a wider audience both among supporters and drivers, something needs to be done.

As of today you have to many arenas in Europe:
- National series
- FIA zone series
- ERC

Something has to go imo, but what?

Maybe the European Crown could be some sort of final between the zones? If the top X cars from the classes in the zones could meet for a final containing 1 asfalt and 1 gravel rally - to crown the best all rounder in european rallying ?

[Mirek]

No-one is interested in zone series. That is the most useless thing in the whole rally world...

[PLuto]

Who makes the decision to include a new rally into the ERC calendar?

FIA rally commission...

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for your reply. I was asking, because I found a photo of the commission and just wanted to know who is who :)

http://www.gamesprays.com/images/icons/Bunch_of_Idiots__2__icon1425.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.antibes-rallye.com

ERC entrylist this evening, looks like :cool:

[PLuto]

Entry list to Antibes is published - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12843)

[PLuto]

Pieter Tsjoen on Valais with Fiesta S2000 with engine 1,6T

[GL Media Pro]

Here the Time Schedule of our European Rally Championship TV Magazine "Rallye Antibes" on MotorsTV:

MOTORS TV FRANCE
(RALLYE D'ANTIBES COTE D'AZUR implanté 7 fois dans la période
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 23:26:00
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 06:10:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 09:49:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 23:57:00
Dimanche 23 Octobre 2011 17:26:00
Lundi 24 Octobre 2011 12:18:00
Mercredi 26 Octobre 2011 22:03:00


MOTORSTV EUROPE
RALLYE D'ANTIBES COTE D'AZUR implanté 9 fois dans la période
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 22:05:00
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 04:55:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 09:35:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 14:20:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 00:00:00
Dimanche 23 Octobre 2011 17:47:00
Lundi 24 Octobre 2011 12:36:00
Mercredi 26 Octobre 2011 01:06:00
Jeudi 27 Octobre 2011 18:25:00


MOTORSTV UK
RALLYE D'ANTIBES COTE D'AZUR implanté 4 fois dans la période
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 22:04:00
Vendredi 21 Octobre 2011 05:32:00
Samedi 22 Octobre 2011 23:06:00
Lundi 24 Octobre 2011 11:37:00


The same video, in HD, will be online on ERC Web Channel TV FIA ERC Web Channel TV (http://erc.ellegy.tv) from October 23, 2011.

[Alexg84]

Hi to everyone!
On TestRally.com (http://www.testrally.com) photos of Betti test for Antibes with the car champion in Italy, the 207 of Racing Lions...

http://www.testrally.com/public/immagini/0013189.jpg

[mousti]

Pieter Tsjoen on Valais with Fiesta S2000 with engine 1,6T
Is a test for a possible ERC program in 2012 :)

[Jarek Z]

That would be nice, but I don't think that Tsjoen has high expectations from this Fiesta RRC or whatever it is. Before the test he said, that he doesn't expect much power from this car :)

[Jarek Z]

Hi to everyone!
On TestRally.com (http://www.testrally.com) photos of Betti test for Antibes with the car champion in Italy, the 207 of Racing Lions...

Thanks! Nice photos. Interesting to see, that according to this article, Betti will get official support from Peugeot in Antibes.
Luca Betti will start in Antibes with Peugeot Support - ERC 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=727)

[Alexg84]

Thanks! Nice photos. Interesting to see, that according to this article, Betti will get official support from Peugeot in Antibes.
Luca Betti will start in Antibes with Peugeot Support - ERC 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=727)

Yes, he will have the car of Racing Lions, that is the official italian team for Peugeot. And also Peugeot Sport support...non bad! :)

[mousti]

Pieter Tsjoen on Valais with Fiesta S2000 with engine 1,6T
Will not happen, car will not be ready..

And Tsjoen will probably go with Citroën now and do FFSA championship with DS3 and C4. I still hope on ERC though

[tolis]

Bernardo Sousa will drive a Peugeot 207 S2000 in Rallye du Valais!
Bernardo Sousa with the Peugeot 207 S2000 at the Rallye du Valais - ERC 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=731)

[Mirek]

Results of Antibes will be here: Rallye Antibes Côte d (http://rally-base.com/2011/rallye-antibes-cote-d-azur-2011/)

As far as I know Rzeznik and Pletka will not start. Rzeznik due to broken leg from ice-skating or something like that and Pletka due to some family reasons.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Thanks for the infos Mirek ;)

[Jarek Z]

Rallye Antibes starts already this evening. Oleksowicz organized a test session of his Fiesta yesterday and is happy with the settings of his car. He says that his goal on thir rally is to regain the 3rd position in the ERC standings, the position, that he lost after his mistakes in Poland and Spain.

Some photos from the test session can be found here:
Rally Antibes - testy (http://www.oleksowicz.pl/pl/galeria-31.html)

It really is a beautiful event:

http://www.oleksowicz.pl/files/img/galleries/31/antibes_tests_0034.JPG

[Jarek Z]

Before the rally Oleksowicz is signing autographs for the fans, but will he be equally happy on the finish line? :)
http://www.oleksowicz.pl/files/img/newses/antibes_0006.jpg

[mousti]

First SS of Antibes Boetti and Betti could follow Rox's pace a bit. Second SS Boetti 2 mins loss for him due to puncture I think, Betti 38 seconds (spin or puncture also??) . So Ruta second place at 46 seconds of Rox, after 2 SS Rox can control the rally..

[Wim_Impreza]

Before the rally Oleksowicz is signing autographs for the fans, but will he be equally happy on the finish line? :)
http://www.oleksowicz.pl/files/img/newses/antibes_0006.jpg

I would really like to have that poster and postcard. Good luck to him. :)

[mousti]

I would really like to have that poster and postcard. Good luck to him. :)
If you're lucky, he comes to Ypres again :D . So u could ask him then to get some ^^

[Jarek Z]

So after SS2 Oleksowicz is only 5th. Considering the level of competition on this rally, it's a big disappointment. He says that he doesn't feel comfortable on night stages and promises to attack on Saturday. But can we believe him? :)

[PLuto]

If you're lucky, he comes to Ypres again :D . So u could ask him then to get some ^^

Maybe he will not come back. With cancelling registration next year, most of the drivers doesnt want to attend ERC...

[PLuto]

First SS of Antibes Boetti and Betti could follow Rox's pace a bit. Second SS Boetti 2 mins loss for him due to puncture I think, Betti 38 seconds (spin or puncture also??) . So Ruta second place at 46 seconds of Rox, after 2 SS Rox can control the rally..

I think for Boetti it was much more than puncture...

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/175/Antibes_25.jpg

[PLuto]

Luca Betti had puncture (front right wheel) 7 kms before finish of SS 2.

[PLuto]

So after SS2 Oleksowicz is only 5th. Considering the level of competition on this rally, it's a big disappointment. He says that he doesn't feel comfortable on night stages and promises to attack on Saturday. But can we believe him? :)

From my point of view, I dont think that his tyre choice was the best one. Most of drivers used "20", he used "0".

[Tom206wrc]

Wrong thread :mark:

[mousti]

Maybe he will not come back. With cancelling registration next year, most of the drivers doesnt want to attend ERC...
Well when I heard that news I didn't found it very positive, and it doesn't surprise me that they're not so interested anymore and I think the death of ERC will come soon :(

[Tom206wrc]

Michel Boetti is flying this morning :)
Without his wheel off on friday(due to crash)he would certainly have been 2nd overall and a real threat for Rox since long time :(

[tolis]

Rallye Antibes video: ERC rallye Antibes Côte d' Azur 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_VpKGoafg)

[Mirek]

Michel Boetti is flying this morning :)
Without his wheel off on friday(due to crash)he would certainly have been 2nd overall and a real threat for Rox since long time :(

I'm sure Rox except first few stages didn't push at all.

[Jarek Z]

I think that Boetti can be a real threat for Rox... but only in his dreams! :)

I don't know why, but I really like the livery on Boetti's car:
http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/176/Antibes_02.jpg

[Jarek Z]

So the final results of Rally Antibes:
1. Luca Rossetti/Matteo Chiarcossi (I) Fiat Punto Abarth S2000 2:56.38,1
2. Luca Betti/Maurizio Barone (I) Peugeot 207 S2000 +23,6
3. Maciej Oleksowicz/Andrzej Obrębowski (PL) Ford Fiesta S2000 +6.23,0
4. Antonin Tlustak/Jan Skaloud (CZ) Skoda Fabia S2000 +7.15,8
5. Robert Lassauge/Jonathan Boueri (F) Peugeot 207 S2000 +7.25,7
6. Michel Boetti/Valerie Monnier (F) Peugeot 207 S2000 +11.16,7
7. Franck Lions/Benjamin Veillas (F) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X +11.18,5
8. Lorenzo Fabiani/Edoardo Paganelli (I) Renault Clio S1600 +20.18,1
9. Francesco Baldo/Paolo Pagliuca (I) Citroën C2 R2 Max +22.07,7
10. Bruno Riberi/Florian Haut Labourdette (F) Peugeot 207 RC +23.16,0

ERC standings:
1. Rossetti 253,
2. Betti 223,
3. Oleksowicz 135,
4. Tlustak 133 (147),
5. Sołowow 115,
6. Ruta 101,
7. Iliew 46,
8. Travaglia 35,
9. Vergnano 33,
10. Turk 32.

[PLuto]

Entry list to Rallye du Valais - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12889 (without Tsjoen)

[wildboar]

ERC standings:
1. Rossetti 253,
2. Betti 223,
3. Oleksowicz 135,
4. Tlustak 133 (147),
5. Sołowow 115,
6. Ruta 101,
7. Iliew 46,
8. Travaglia 35,
9. Vergnano 33,
10. Turk 32.

Isn't there a minimum number of events requirement (5 in total, at least one in each half of the season)? This would exclude Sołowow, Iliew and Travaglia.

[PLuto]

Yes, this will exclude them, but at the end of the season...

[Barreis]

ERC is very thin.

[Tom206wrc]

Entry list to Rallye du Valais - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12889 (without Tsjoen)


I was hoping Grégoire Hotz to be there too after his outing at Sanremo :(

[Jarek Z]

Off course, Hotz would be one of the favourites for overal win. It's a pity he is not going to compete.

By the way, I don't know if you heard about it, but in 2013 IRC is going to merge with ERC.

[Mirek]

It's not sure in the moment. Still under negotiations...

[Tom206wrc]

First pics of Valais on Diretta Vallese 2011 (http://www.rallylink.it/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=69&Itemid=) :p :

[Mirek]

Link to live results: Rallye du Valais 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/rallye-du-valais-2011/)

[Tom206wrc]

Link to live results: Rallye du Valais 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/rallye-du-valais-2011/)

Doesn't work yet :rolleyes: but http://www.riv.ch/ live result is working ;)
Looks like Florian Gonon crashed on SS1 :( Ballinari fastest in front of Rox, Reuche, Althaus, Sousa,...

[tolis]

Live from service park in Motors TV NOW: Motors TV online em EstadioFutebol.com, TVDez.com, TV Tuga, TVTuga em Directo (http://www.tvdez.com/motorstv)

[Francis44]

Am I seeing correctly?! Bernardo Sousa leads the rally now?

[Mirek]

Rox, Ballinari technical problem, Betti also out...

[Francis44]

Oh ok thanks.

[Mirek]

But Rox is already European champion :)

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Reuche in SS5 ??? Puncture ??? :(

[mousti]

Time for Rox to say goodbye to the Abarth car, this year the car got alot of technical/mechanical failures. Rox was like driving on 80 % I think yesterday and first SS this morning full throttle and gap was made :D

[Mirek]

I think that this was the best ever drive from Tlusťák. Except problems with fuel pump on SS4 he was really good. Won two stages overall (plus once second by only 0,2 sec) and even in last stage got to the podium. After that SS4 he was 3:34 behind later winner Reuche, in finish he was behind him by 3:44. Hopefully he can continue like this!

[Ucci]

Probably no one noticed that small Europan country Slovenia has for the first time Europan champion in rally: Rok Turk won the Europan championship in the 2WD class. Congratulations to Rok and his co-driver.
I hope Rok will find more finances to attack next season the general classification with a S2000 car (even if he will give up the domestic national Championship).

[Jarek Z]

I think that this was the best ever drive from Tlusťák. Except problems with fuel pump on SS4 he was really good. Won two stages overall (plus once second by only 0,2 sec) and even in last stage got to the podium. After that SS4 he was 3:34 behind later winner Reuche, in finish he was behind him by 3:44. Hopefully he can continue like this!

Yes, three events of historical value have to be noticed on this rally:

1) Luca Rossetti is the first driver in the history of mankind who won European Rally Championship three times.
(actually Polish driver Sobieslaw Zasada made it too in the sixties, but at that time ERC was divided in groups)
2) Rok Turk won the first ever European Rally Championship title for Slovenia (in 2WD category).
3) For the first time in history Antonin Tlustak won a special stage in ERC round :)

Final ERC standings:
ERC Standins 2011 - ERC 2011 (http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=743)

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/riv_rossetti.jpg

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The most impressive is the fact that Tlustk won a stage... :s mokin:

[PLuto]

]The most impressive is the fact that Tlustk won a stage... :s mokin:

He won two stages :s mokin:

[dimviii]

He won two stages :s mokin:

Pluto stop smoking,and explain to us how Tlustak was fast with wrc against Pech Valda etc,while with s2000 he is struggling.Ok mml has in very good condition the lancer wrc,and maybe his suspension is well setup,but.....i cant believe it really! Is there something more?

[PLuto]

Some pictures from Valais - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12941)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/d4e65f94dca02c51a59bcf519a07512a.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/73f318191f6e1774646276b045123118.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/bf03e4b1e981336d6bd01e5935105620.jpg

[PLuto]

And results of Florian Gonon... (bigger picture directly in article (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12935))

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/8276d2cda12737b55ee81c7b8f230ff4.jpg