2010 Sprint Cup Standings, Classic points (No Chase)

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........3996
t02 Ky Busch..........3778
t02 J Gordon..........3778
004 C Edwards.........3722
005 J Johnson.........3700
006 J Burton..........3678
007 D Hamlin..........3650
008 Ku Busch..........3626
009 T Stewart.........3613
010 M Kenseth.........3549
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011 G Biffle..........3395
012 R Newman..........3363
013 C Bowyer..........3354
014 J McMurray........3344
015 J Montoya.........3253

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........4166
002 J Gordon..........3938
003 Ky Busch..........3888
004 C Edwards.........3877
005 J Johnson.........3870
006 J Burton..........3792
007 T Stewart.........3783
008 D Hamlin..........3777
009 Ku Busch..........3750
010 M Kenseth.........3700
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011 G Biffle..........3585
012 R Newman..........3501
013 J McMurray........3479
014 C Bowyer..........3472
015 M Martin..........3346

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........4459
002 J Johnson.........4210
003 J Gordon..........4180
004 Ky Busch..........4131
005 D Hamlin..........4084
006 T Stewart.........4073
007 C Edwards.........3877
008 J Burton..........3994
009 M Kenseth.........3933
010 Ku Busch..........3923
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011 J McMurray........3786
012 G Biffle..........3785
013 C Bowyer..........3764
014 R Newman..........3711
015 M Martin..........3632

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........4629
002 J Johnson.........4365
003 Ky Busch..........4291
004 J Gordon..........4288
005 D Hamlin..........4274
006 C Edwards.........4212
007 T Stewart.........4169
008 J Burton..........4142
009 M Kenseth.........4051
010 Ku Busch..........4038
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011 J McMurray........3916
012 G Biffle..........3845
013 C Bowyer..........3813
014 M Martin..........3802
015 R Newman..........3789


Harvick extends his domination to 264 points over Johnson....stinkin chase...

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........4804
002 J Johnson.........4516
003 J Gordon..........4435
004 D Hamlin..........4417
005 Ky Busch..........4384
006 C Edwards.........4239
007 T Stewart.........4239
008 J Burton..........4187
009 M Kenseth.........4171
010 Ku Busch..........4116
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011 C Bowyer..........4003
012 J McMurray........3976
013 G Biffle..........3955
014 M Martin..........3937
015 R Newman..........3883


Harvick's lead extends to 288 over Johnson.....

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........4959
002 J Johnson.........4659
003 D Hamlin..........4607
004 J Gordon..........4487
005 Ky Busch..........4451
006 C Edwards.........4435
007 T Stewart.........4369
008 M Kenseth.........4346
009 J Burton..........4242
010 Ku Busch..........4207
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011 C Bowyer..........4149
012 G Biffle..........4120
013 M Martin..........4107
014 J McMurray........4091
015 R Newman..........3986

Well, the fake chase Chumpionship leader just got eliminated even tho he won Texas, Hamlin is now 352 points back with 2 races to go....Johnson is the only one still alive 300 points back of Harvick.

I do find it interesting that we have a Triumvirate, if you will, of leaders at this point of the season.

Hamlin leading the Chase by 33 over Johnson.
Harvick leading the Classic points by 300 over Johnson.
Johnson leading the FIA standings by 2 over Harvick.

Hamlin isn't leading either full season scenarios, heck he isn't even P2 in either.

Thanks alot, Bri-Bri, for another screwed up season......

[NickFalzone]

This is a pointless discussion. As has been mentioned ad infinitum, the drivers and teams would race differently in the regular season if points did not reset in the Chase. The 48 in particular is known to use the regular season to test, and then they turn it all on in the Chase. This is a fun little parlor game to look at the standings in a different way, but it is not fair to many of the teams that strategize for the Chase.

[speedsville]

Good posting, unfortunately shows why the chase curse is on us.
Without the manipulating it would be over and even less attendance for the last two races.
And the 48 would not be a 4 time "champion"

[Mark in Oshawa]

Good posting, unfortunately shows why the chase curse is on us.
Without the manipulating it would be over and even less attendance for the last two races.
And the 48 would not be a 4 time "champion"
You keep believing that...but anyone paying attention will see the 48 and Knaus cruise the first part of the season and just make the chase. Do you really believe they wouldn't race differently if there was no Chase?

Those who want to believe that fiction obviously haven't been watching everyone in NASCAR do their level best to beat this guy over a 10 races stretch and not even get close in the end to doing it FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. Are you naive enough to believe they cant do this for a full season? REALLY? They gamble more, do more research and try setups in the first 26...because they know in the end, those 10 races mean putting it all together..and they win...and win...and win....

[Sparky1329]

001 K Harvick.........4959
002 J Johnson.........4659
003 D Hamlin..........4607
004 J Gordon..........4487
005 Ky Busch..........4451
006 C Edwards.........4435
007 T Stewart.........4369
008 M Kenseth.........4346
009 J Burton..........4242
010 Ku Busch..........4207
________________________
011 C Bowyer..........4149
012 G Biffle..........4120
013 M Martin..........4107
014 J McMurray........4091
015 R Newman..........3986

Well, the fake chase Chumpionship leader just got eliminated even tho he won Texas, Hamlin is now 352 points back with 2 races to go....Johnson is the only one still alive 300 points back of Harvick.

I do find it interesting that we have a Triumvirate, if you will, of leaders at this point of the season.

Hamlin leading the Chase by 33 over Johnson.
Harvick leading the Classic points by 300 over Johnson.
Johnson leading the FIA standings by 2 over Harvick.

Hamlin isn't leading either full season scenarios, heck he isn't even P2 in either.

Thanks alot, Bri-Bri, for another screwed up season......

The boo-birds don't want to see who the real legitimate champ should be. Bri-Bri didn't like having one guy running away with the whole enchilada before the season's end.

IMHO every champ since the "Chase" was implemented needs an asterisk after his name in the NASCAR history books. The asterisk signifies "BOGUS".

[slorydn1]

001 K Harvick.........5109
002 J Johnson.........4814
003 D Hamlin..........4744
004 C Edwards.........4625
005 J Gordon..........4617
006 Ky Busch..........4580
007 M Kenseth.........4497
008 T Stewart.........4481
009 Ku Busch..........4350
010 J Burton..........4348

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012 G Biffle..........4280
011 C Bowyer..........4249
013 M Martin..........4249
014 J McMurray........4225
015 R Newman..........4156

Congrats to Kevin Harvick for clinching the 2010 "Winston Cup" Championship at Phoenix......

Now, can he get it done at Homestead so the Chase Champion and real champion will again be one and the same, just as it was last year, or is he gonna come up short and allow someone else who doesn't deserve it get it, like 2004,2007, and 2008.

[Sparky1329]

001 K Harvick.........5109
002 J Johnson.........4814
003 D Hamlin..........4744
004 C Edwards.........4625
005 J Gordon..........4617
006 Ky Busch..........4580
007 M Kenseth.........4497
008 T Stewart.........4481
009 Ku Busch..........4350
010 J Burton..........4348

________________________
012 G Biffle..........4280
011 C Bowyer..........4249
013 M Martin..........4249
014 J McMurray........4225
015 R Newman..........4156

Congrats to Kevin Harvick for clinching the 2010 "Winston Cup" Championship at Phoenix......

Now, can he get it done at Homestead so the Chase Champion and real champion will again be one and the same, just as it was last year, or is he gonna come up short and allow someone else who doesn't deserve it get it, like 2004,2007, and 2008.

:up:

[BobbyC]

One important part of the points system that seemingly is never mentioned but important is once the season rolls to the July race at Daytona, if a team is set for the Chase, they will go into "chequers or wreckers". Nothing but wins matter, and they will do risks that they would not do under the traditional points system knowing the race can be "discarded" similarly to what happened in many FIA points systems.