Monte Carlo 2011

[Halvis]

other live link : http://mypremium.tv/em/11/s1.shtml?reload=1295307902860

That worked for me - thanks a lot!

[Luis Pacheco]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162589/irc-player.shtml

[Halvis]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162589/irc-player.shtml

Even better - without lags in picture - thanks!

[N.O.T]

Great start of the rallying season....Great job by eurosport...

[JRodrigues]

where are the splits??

[MartijnS]

Sarrazin is really fast! Great stream of eurosport, thanks!

[6789]

Its on TV for about 5 secs.

Petter 5th fastest

[JRodrigues]

No splits... only shows some cars.. I would expect more from Eurosport.

[N.O.T]

Hmmmmm solberg rather slow on first stage....or sarrazin just very very fast.

[pettersolberg29]

Sarrazin with a great time - justifying my confidence in him earlier! Solberg not too bad but he'll need to pick up time when/if it snows in my opinion.

[bennizw]

The Eurosport player won´t show up for me. Isn´t it a service you have to pay for?

[Micke_VOC]

Really good driving from hänninen

[JRodrigues]

And no Bruno until now. Thank you Eurosport!!!!!

[Micke_VOC]

Henning puncture , lost 4 minutes..

[Bartek]

Also good drive by Wilks, i heard he had a puncture, yes?

[N.O.T]

to have splits would be interesting to see if Sarrazin and hanninen won all that time at a certain section or if their overall pace was just superior.

[hari]

Again a suberb coverage on Eurosport!
Surprising big gaps already after ss1

[logic]

Sarrazan is FLYING!!!

[bennizw]

Where is the rally radio?

[6789]

Henning angry again.. haha

[N.O.T]

Atko crashed....

[6789]

Where is the rally radio?


http://www.msaevents.co.uk/rally_radio.php

[Juha_Koo]

Finnish friends, are you hearing Jakke and Jussi commentating on Eurosport 2? Or are they just with Eurosport 1? I tried to tweak TV's sound setups but wasn't able to get Finnish commentary. Jakke, as a (ex) codriver, likes to keep his mouth closed during onboards which is a style I like.

[Sulland]

Cool to see the overlay of two cars in Eurosport, to study different styles.

Two pissed off norwegian drivers after SS1, and two teams out in front. Hanninen not bad on asfalt !

[logic]

Looks like the pugs have the answer on at least tarmac to the new Skodas.

[bluuford]

Atko crashed....

So, Neuville, Atko and Mikkelsen all crashed on the first stage. I was quite expecting it in Monte, but already on the first stage.. even I was not so pessimistic :-P

[Micke_VOC]

Who are the commentators on Eurosport2 UK ?
The same who commentate WTCC ?

They have really good knowledge of everything i think..

[N.O.T]

i wonder what the cost for eurosport is for such a production...and why the WRC doesn't have a similar coverage at least for the european rounds...

[Ondra WRC]

Neuville crashed? and Atko really crashed? what happend - rolled?

[logic]

I like the new comparison the IRS is using , it is very good compared to virtual spectator on the WRC

[6789]

Atko crashed again.. :( The Eurosport Simu Cam thing is very interesting, Petter VS Wilks i saw

[bluuford]

Edit:
double post.

Neuville hit the bank..Aigner also missing?

[Juha_Koo]

Hanninen not bad on asfalt !

Just few days back I read a Finnish book which reviews year's motorsport happenings and there was an interview with Juho. He told that the Skoda deal and especially the testing in terrible rain, mud, gravel filled Czech tarmac roads have helped him to improve his tarmac driving very, very lot. Thanks Czechs for having nice special tarmac roads which help Finnish drivers to improve. ;-)

He was very aggressive on the final part, sliding a lot. Very good, push it Juho!

[Mise]

On the couch in my living room :D :D

[Sulland]

The only thing I am missing now is split times. >Are they only available on TV ?

[Gard]

eurosport sucks. I payed for eurosportplayer and they couldn't get it to work properly. But snowboard works fine. Who cares? Probably tells us that IRC is more popular than snowboard

[pettersolberg29]

to have splits would be interesting to see if Sarrazin and hanninen won all that time at a certain section or if their overall pace was just superior.

Yeah I agree - Sarrazin was 6s down on Wilks at 4km but that was the only split taken. It means he made up 26 over the other 30km which is fast!

[hari]

eurosport sucks. I payed for eurosportplayer and they couldn't get it to work properly. But snowboard works fine. Who cares? Probably tells us that IRC is more popular than snowboard

Eurosport Player worked well for me like it always did.

[Ucci]

Sarrazan is FLYING!!!

Yes, and he was almost beaten in the same conditions by F1 driver Kubica with Clio S1600.....
Still, a good start to MC!

[6789]

Just few days back I read a Finnish book which reviews year's motorsport happenings and there was an interview with Juho. He told that the Skoda deal and especially the testing in terrible rain, mud, gravel filled Czech tarmac roads have helped him to improve his tarmac driving very, very lot. Thanks Czechs for having nice special tarmac roads which help Finnish drivers to improve. ;-)

He was very aggressive on the final part, sliding a lot. Very good, push it Juho!

JML should go down there soon..

Coverage has been great so far and its inly stage 1

[Honza H.]

Maybe snowboarding is not watched by that many people as Monte is? Crowds trying to connect could be the problem.....

[Sulland]

Has Mikkelsen been able to fix his car for SS2 ?

Impressed by Caffi by the way !!

[JRodrigues]

Has Mikkelsen been able to fix his car for SS2 ?

Impressed by Caffi by the way !!

Not on the start.

[teufel]

Not on the start.

too bad if true :(

[Micke_VOC]

Can Mikkelssen restart tomorrow ?

[mm1]

Watching Delacour onboard is just magnificent, such a ball of energy in the car, I missed those shots, a camera pointing at his face would be perfect.

[Juha_Koo]

Delecour pushing like hell! Two big moments in one minute...

[JRodrigues]

Watching Delacour onboard is just magnificent, such a ball of energy in the car, I missed those shots, a camera pointing at his face would be perfect.

:cool: :cool:
He almost lost it in that braking!

[JRodrigues]

and still... there are some cars on stage already and we haven't seen them!!

[JRodrigues]

Flat out!!!! :s mokin: :s mokin: :s mokin:

[logic]

Andreas is out :(

[JRodrigues]

Solberg with a bad line into that curve.. lost a lot on the way out.

[Sulland]

You have to love Delecour, as a type
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRvcobW-LN4

[Hartusvuori]

Juho going to take the lead - fingers crossed. Monte Magic never fails :-)

[SkodaSRT]

Solberg is pushing hard in the narrow stage

[JRodrigues]

Solberg!!! :cool:

[logic]

Solberg FTW!!!!

[JRodrigues]

but Hanninen is coming back hard!

[mm1]

juho`s onboard looked like fast forward :)

[Juha_Koo]

Way to go Juho! -15!

[JRodrigues]

but Hanninen is coming back hard!

-15s!!

[SkodaSRT]

Hänninen is pushing to the Limit!

[Micke_VOC]

"Hänninen the next Mäkinen" .. some true in that i think =)

[logic]

15.1 seconds over solberg MY GOD!

[hari]

what an amazing drive bei hänninen!

[mm1]

I`m at work today, but you know what, I haven`t done anything regarding my job, I don`t think I will have a dinner today :) , no need with this coverage.

[nr7wave]

Is it so that Hanninen is on medium compound and Solberg(and the rest) is on soft?

Edit: Seams that Loix is on medium compound aswell. Seems like medium is the best choice...

[cali]

What a rally, amazing scenery and brilliant driving from the top guys!!!! I haven't enjoyed rallying that much for ages. Well done Eurosport!!!! Fantastic!

[morganmilan]

Kopecky?

[Sulland]

What a rally, amazing scenery and brilliant driving from the top guys!!!! I haven't enjoyed rallying that much for ages. Well done Eurosport!!!! Fantastic!

Fully agree.
North One: see and learn !

But the Journalist on the stage end could ease off a bit, he is almost rude in his questioning !

[Juha_Koo]

Is it so that Hanninen is on medium compound and Solberg(and the rest) is on soft?

Hänninen and Loix on mediums. Rest with softs.

[pettersolberg29]

Is it so that Hanninen is on medium compound and Solberg(and the rest) is on soft?

Edit: Seams that Loix is on medium compound aswell. Seems like medium is the best choice...

Everyone on softs was complaining that the stage has got drier since the safety crews reported conditions and mediums were the best choice.

[Halvis]

What happened to Sarrazin on that one? +35?

[N.O.T]

any site i can see the live..the one i used stopped working....

The results are crazy... Hanninen is the lead after the long stage. His battle with Solberg will be good.

[Ondra WRC]

What happened PG Andersson? :confused:

[Sulland]

What can Henning do on ss2 ?
He loves the car and was fastest in SWRC last year a couple of times, but IRC has tougher opposition !

[logic]

Thing is with solberg , with limited testing (only on the wet) and time in the car and he is up there , it is good for the Peugeot's as well!
Plus the fact he was on softs for that stage as well!

[Halvis]

What can Henning do on ss2 ?
He loves the car and was fastest in SWRC last year a couple of times, but IRC has tougher opposition !

But where is Henning? Not in results, is he out?

[Micke_VOC]

What happened PG Andersson? :confused:

PG retired.
Got puncture in a fast corner over a bump and changed tire.
After some few kilometers after the change the lower control arm broke and they retired..

[RICARDO75]

No Henning and Andersson. Something is wrong with both

[6789]

Fully agree.
North One: see and learn !

But the Journalist on the stage end could ease off a bit, he is almost rude in his questioning !

Yeah that end of stage reporter is such a pain, asks stupid questions and doesn't even let the drivers get their helmets off..

WRC should be ashamed that they don't provide a product like this

[Sulland]

If Andreas, PG and Henning are out by ss2, its only Hanninen and Petter left of the Nordic drivers. Bad start !

[Halvis]

Already 9 drivers out - of them 2 Norwegians, Henning and Andreas. Add PG and you have a bad nordic start...

[Isthmus]

A motivated Solberg, stills top of the top!

[RICARDO75]

Accident for Henning on stage 2

[RS]

Unimpressive performance by Atkinson, Henning and Mikkelsen to retire already with accidents.

I am positively surprised by Delecour and Wilks. Hanninen was amazing on SS2, I wonder may be he is now the best tarmac rally driver from Finland...

What is the most reliable place to watch Eurosport footage online? I am at 'work' now, watched the first two stages at home on proper tv. Don't mind paying for it.

[RICARDO75]

Atkinson retired with electric problems and not off road

[muscrae]

What is the most reliable place to watch Eurosport footage online? I am at 'work' now, watched the first two stages at home on proper tv. Don't mind paying for it.
This is more than ok...

http://mypremium.tv/em/11/s1.shtml?reload=1295307902860

Edit: It was for Eurosport 2, but the footage will be by Eurosport1 for SS3 40 mins later... :S

[RS]

Atkinson retired with electric problems and not off road

Fair enough... Shame the Protons still have not found reliability. I actually thought PGA's time on the first stage was quite promising.

[Sulland]

Accident for Henning on stage 2

Do we know what happened ?

[RICARDO75]

Do we know what happened ?

They said on radio that they add an accident but both are ok

[RICARDO75]

Andreas Aigner add a small fire on the Lancer

[Francis44]

Quite weird mistake by Mikkelsen, perhaps this new seat at Skoda UK gave him a load of pressure under the belt. Before the start he said this was all about the finish and the points, but then makes a mistake in the first stage, he should take it easier.

[RICARDO75]

PG Andersson spoke on radio and confirmed that he will start Rally Sweden with the Fiesta WRC

[RS]

PG Andersson spoke on radio and confirmed that he will start Rally Sweden with the Fiesta WRC

That's great. He should be able to challenge for a podium if the Fiesta is good enough.

[Japé]

Any video links to accidents on SS1 or SS2? PG, Mikkelsen, Henning, etc..

[6789]

Any video links to accidents on SS1 or SS2? PG, Mikkelsen, Henning, etc..

Mikkelsen was on the live broadcast. Just bumped the side of a brick wall with the left rear.

Didn't see PG's or anyone elses on the broadcast

[Luis Pacheco]

What about Delecour?

I´m impressed with him. He knows well this race but starting with almost no pace in the bagage. I´m very impressed.

[Sulland]

But did he not do a similar mistake in Cyprus, going out in SS1 or something ?

[6789]

Stpid snowboarding on the Eurosport here.. When SS3 go live?

[Juha_Koo]

Very nice to watch Australian Opens Tennis when there should be IRC Monte Carlo.

[Wim_Impreza]

If Andreas, PG and Henning are out by ss2, its only Hanninen and Petter left of the Nordic drivers. Bad start !

And Gardemeister!

[alleskids]

STUPID EUROSPORT :down:

[RS]

Has live online stream started yet? I am just getting the loop on the IRC website's player.

[pettersolberg29]

Anyone else having problems with Eurosport Player? Mine is showing tennis even though it says IRC is on now?

[JRodrigues]

Thank you Eurosport! Anyone else saying it's been a good broadcast??

[Juha_Koo]

Anyone else having problems with Eurosport Player? Mine is showing tennis even though it says IRC is on now?

It's not problem, it is how it is. Tennis coming still. FINALLY though the game is over. Monte broadcast should start in a few minutes.

[JRodrigues]

Anyone else having problems with Eurosport Player? Mine is showing tennis even though it says IRC is on now?

It's not your problem.. It's theirs!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: And they keep showing the tennis pictures even tough it as finished!

[cali]

Friggin Federer couldn't finish this poor french guy earlier :D

[pettersolberg29]

It's not your problem.. It's theirs!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: And they keep showing the tennis pictures even though it as finished!

It's odd how they're spending money promoting the excellent and full Monte coverage, then they show tennis replays instead!

[Luis Pacheco]

Is live now!

[Juha_Koo]

friggin federer couldn't finish this poor french guy earlier :d

:d lol

[Jordib]

It's last time that i pay for eurosport player. So many problems with connection this morning, now the live coverage starts 18 minutes later and only showing first 10 cars per stage. I know that this is better than nothing, but they have to take more respect to rally fans.

[Sulland]

Is there a free stream somewhere ?

[piquet20]

Is live now!

link please!

[SkodaSRT]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162589/irc-player.shtml

[muscrae]

Is live now!

Any live covarage for Eurosport 1 online???

Ok thanks..

[6789]

Is there a free stream somewhere ?

Can't find one either

[Sulland]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162589/irc-player.shtml

Do not get the player to work.

[6789]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162589/irc-player.shtml
:D

[Luis Pacheco]

Can't find one either
http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162607/irc-player.shtml

[SkodaSRT]

Click on Monte Carlo Day 1.3
This should work

[morganmilan]

Orsak out

[muscrae]

Freddy did a great time, but Petter looks even quicker in split...!

[dimviii]

Petter is flying -4 from everybody

[muscrae]

Petter is 2nd quicekst despite wrong tyres...

[dimviii]

Juho fastest! tarmac expert!

[6789]

The Eurosport commentators really do favour the regular IRC guys, I guess they have to be

[blissard]

Petter losing a lot of time in the last part, 7 seconds to Loix.

[hari]

Punctures for Gardemeister and Basso

[pettersolberg29]

Petter looks like he's losing time in the medium-high speed corners - 4th or 5th gear - when looking at Simulcam. Lost 1s to Juho in just an 800m section due to uncertain braking and possible wrong gear selection.

[dimviii]

Petter looks like he's losing time in the medium-high speed corners - 4th or 5th gear - when looking at Simulcam. Lost 1s to Juho in just an 800m section due to uncertain braking and possible wrong gear selection.

Petter was -4 sec earlier.Maybe softer tyres for Petter???

[Raini]

For a now Elena is not as fast as Loeb... :D , but lets hope for the best

[pettersolberg29]

Petter was -4 sec earlier.Maybe softer tyres for Petter???

He was on full softs, while Juho had medium rears and soft fronts (as did Loix) so I assume that was the best compound to go for.

[Mintexmemory]

Anybody know if Adrien Tambay is any relation to Patrick?
Putting up some good times in a DS3, having Giraudet as co-driver must help.

[RS]

Anybody know if Adrien Tambay is any relation to Patrick?
Putting up some good times in a DS3, having Giraudet as co-driver must help.

Son of, I believe.

[6789]

Interesting moment for Harry Hunt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2INZz9mbk&feature=player_embedded

[tolis]

Only 49 crews finished SS3??? Where are the others?

[dimviii]

Petter in hairpin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2OC_aFK9k

[JTGANG]

Interesting moment for Harry Hunt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA2INZz9mbk&feature=player_embedded

he is not letting Arzeno pass !!!! does anybody know for which reason Arzeno & Amourette retired ????

[René]

Son of, I believe.

yes he is ;)

[N.O.T]

http://www.everythingon.tv/channel/view/eurosport-4

no interuptions at all here...

very good job by eurosport...and of course Hanninen and skoda.

[N.O.T]

Solberg attacks....he gets better and better. Maybe tommorow he can push more and challenge hanninen.

[dimviii]

Petter fastest!

[N.O.T]

top speed of solbergs 207....162 km/hr....hmmm isn'y it a bit slow ?

[dimviii]

Quesnel not happy tonight

[N.O.T]

hanninens skoda 169 km/hr top speed...

[hari]

Skodas again!

[dimviii]

top speed of solbergs 207....162 km/hr....hmmm isn'y it a bit slow ?
Hanninen in same point was 167

[pettersolberg29]

Is it me or are the commentators on Eurosport a bit hopeless? They don't know whose who, get times mixed, don't recognise liveries etc. Bit annoying...

Anyway, good first day. Hopefully some snow tomorrow to shake it up a bit!

[Hartusvuori]

Great, consistent day from Juho. Very pleased - and nervous, this is still Monte.

That last part of the stage was crazy. Against the limiter for seconds and seconds. Skodas had clearly faster top speed.

[RS]

top speed of solbergs 207....162 km/hr....hmmm isn'y it a bit slow ?

He must have the short gearbox on. Looks like the Skodas are running a longer box and benefiting at the end of this stage.

[mm1]

It`s just you, they had a moment, but they are not the only ones :)

That`s about Eurosport btw

[br21]

those Michelin tires are the same as last years BF Goodrich just with the different name or completly new compounds, symbols, etc?

[6789]

Is it me or are the commentators on Eurosport a bit hopeless? They don't know whose who, get times mixed, don't recognise liveries etc. Bit annoying...

Yeah pretty much

See the cam comparing Petter and Juho, lost a lot along that straight

[RS]

Amazing driving by the top 3/4 guys, they are really wringing the necks of those machines.

[RICARDO75]

Where is Bruno?

[FAlonso]

I'm looking avidly for any kind of info because the results seem to be frozen after 13º Basso. Hope nothing bad happened.

[tolis]

Results: http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2011/live_clt_epr_gen_2011.php&mode=2&meet=1047&type=0&code=4&f=0&g=all&categ=0&lg=en

[Tom206wrc]

Quesnel not happy tonight


Neither I :mad: I was expecting more from the 2011 spec. 207s :rolleyes:

[RS]

Neither I :mad: I was expecting more from the 2011 spec. 207s :rolleyes:

Remember Skoda have had a step on the engine over the winter too. I wouldn't be disheartened, the Peugeot is still a very quick car in these conditions.

[RICARDO75]

Stage 4 is stop. There was an accident

[Sulland]

He must have the short gearbox on. Looks like the Skodas are running a longer box and benefiting at the end of this stage.

Depending on the stages tomorrow, I guess Petter will have a higher geared box, what is the highest geared topspeed of the Pug ?

[René]

Stage 4 is stop. There was an accident

Boetti goes off and medical assistance arrived with helicopter and try to free the crews

[dimviii]

Basso lost more than 3 minutes in ss4.Anybody knows what happened?

[Tom206wrc]

I hope nothing serious for Boetti and his codriver :(

[Ucci]

First day completed, I'm still pleasantly surprised over Hanninen pace-obviously he found a good rhythm and he is feeling very confidently-especially as today stages were dry and so written on the skin of tarmac specialists. It is a big question if anybody can catch him if the snow&ice will be on the program as he is the master of mixed conditions...Peter is doing great and also Delecour is very very fast, yust look young guns behind him....
Disaster for our only Slovenian crew-Turk&Ložar were out of the game already after first stage!!

[fegh]

Really excellent drive from Haninen, I think PS will do better tomorrow.
Any news regarding Boetti ?

[N.O.T]

i these cases no news is good news....

[dimviii]

So guys what have to say about Petters driving instead of IRC drivers?
Plenty forumers were saying that irc drivers level is not so high as wrc.
So?

[René]

Really excellent drive from Haninen, I think PS will do better tomorrow.
Any news regarding Boetti ?

The codriver Nas de tourris endures several fractured bones and a head traumatism. Even if wounds are important, there is not vital danger

[dimviii]

Neither I :mad: I was expecting more from the 2011 spec. 207s :rolleyes:

Tom do you know where i can find a live camera at Quesnels face?lol

I am sure that Quesnel cant understant how Malcolm won MC with Mikko,while something like that can t happen this year with Petter. and 207.
It is difficult t accept that when in wrc ''have them'' easy.

[RS]

Tom do you know where i can find a live camera at Quesnels face?lol

I am sure that Quesnel cant understant how Malcolm won MC with Mikko,while something like that can t happen this year with Petter. and 207.
It is difficult t accept that when in wrc ''have them'' easy.

It's early days yet... A few things to consider; Mikko drove well but wasn't that quick and took quite a lucky win last year. This year Hanninen doesn't have to think about the title and can drive a bit harder. Petter has still been very fast even if he hasn't won a stage yet.

[dimviii]

It's early days yet... A few things to consider; Mikko drove well but wasn't that quick and took quite a lucky win last year. This year Hanninen doesn't have to think about the title and can drive a bit harder. Petter has still been very fast even if he hasn't won a stage yet.

+1
we have also to see that after ss2 and while Juho has a gap of 35,6 sec going to ss3 make the gap 45,2.This is a good time margin to drive risky in ss4.So in ss4 he is just some tenths slower to another fabia this of Loix.He seems that he has some more if he has to use.
Also that about he is not going to participate at hole championship for Juho,this is the same for Petter...He can also attack without risking championship points.
My view is just like last year.Wrc big boys are not faster than irc drivers with s2000 cars.Works cars for Hirvonen and Solberg with a lot of testing and everything they need.
I am not considering who is going to win,as we saw last year in Monte doesn t win the faster.Just pure speed through the stages,the stages without obvious problems for both of course.

[ridder]

Have you seen the merged footage of Hanninen vs Solberg?

The one from the twisty part shown again on eurosport now in the evening showed Solberg gaining a bit on braking in each of 5-6 corners in a row. How much of a difference on braking does a car make how much a driver?
The second one from last part of SS4 showed Hanninen gaining tons of time due to higher topspeed of the Fabia (both on rev limiter). Solberg lost 10 seconds in about as many kms at the end of both stage 3 and 4 in a flat-out section. How much of a difference does a car and a driver make in a section with few corners on rev-limiter?

In my opinion Hanninen is a driver that compares well with the top 6 WRC drivers, Loix was driving in WRC before so we could see how he did, same is true for Sarrazin, Kopecky and Vuilloz. That kind of leaves only Bouffier as an unknown, but aren't there enough "known" drivers around him in IRC to compare against?

Btw. some people claim that most of Hirvonens last year victory on Monte was down to him using "special" Pirelli tires made for Monte while everyone else had to use normal BFGoodrich ones.

[dimviii]

Have you seen the merged footage of Hanninen vs Solberg?

The one from the twisty part shown again on eurosport now in the evening showed Solberg gaining a bit on braking in each of 5-6 corners in a row. How much of a difference on braking does a car make how much a driver?
The second one from last part of SS4 showed Hanninen gaining tons of time due to higher topspeed of the Fabia (both on rev limiter). Solberg lost 10 seconds in about as many kms at the end of both stage 3 and 4 in a flat-out section. How much of a difference does a car and a driver make in a section with few corners on rev-limiter?


All todays ss had sections running at limiter? Don t think so.The gap is very big for a faultless drive for both.
Also they used different tyres so splits can t say the truth in terms which car/driver has advantage in brakes etc.
Except that you can compare differences between Petter/Sarrazin to see that it is not the difference you see from a works driver to a second class driver(ie Solberg P vs Villagra or Sordo vs Henning we see at wrc)

[dimviii]

photos from stages
http://www.ircseries.com/html/Gallery_Details.asp?pagId=5&pagSize=20&nome=Rally+Monte+Carlo+2011&id=31

[ridder]

Read half of a post, take out a conclusion which isn't there then strike back at it. Add something extra that completely ridicules the other side and end the post by something which is at least a bit true because that part mostly remains in peoples heads.

Hard to answer to a post like that, cause it would involve writing my previous one once more as you apparently didn't read much of it.

Well done I see you learn from the best over there in Greece.

[dimviii]

Read half of a post, take out a conclusion which isn't there then strike back at it. Add something extra that completely ridicules the other side and end the post by something which is at least a bit true because that part mostly remains in peoples heads.

Hard to answer to a post like that, cause it would involve writing my previous one once more as you apparently didn't read much of it.

Well done I see you learn from the best over there in Greece.
Except personal insulting something about Monte?

[Mirek]

Hi guys, I have just returned from stages. I could see SS1, 3, 4. It's really bloody fast in dry but the temperature goes down a lot. On Saint Bonnet we were at four huge crashes of Boetti, Cinotto, Ihle and Gendre. All four cars are gone in my opinion. In all cases they lost control over a bump in high speed and landed deep under the road. Boetti had some health problem because after some ten minutes after his crash, from which he walked away, they called him ambulance and in the end even helicopter. I hope he's ok soon.

Go Juho Go _:-))))

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen
http://www.rtbf.be/video/v_irc-monte-carlo-sortie-de-route-de-mikkelsen?id=722213

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWR7rhPKclM

[rage82]

Hey guys, don't forget that Juho is driving with Skoda for a third year in a row and Peter has his first driving in s2000 car on Monte. I'm very pleased by Juho's pace, he show that he can be very fast on tarmac, but Peter is faster than the others 207's after just 4 stages. I think that tomorrow he will be much more confident with the car and we can expect really fast stage times from him.

[RICARDO75]

Michele Boetti before the big crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNp4a5ni6co&feature=player_embedded

[ridder]

Michele Boetti before the big crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNp4a5ni6co&feature=player_embedded

Pulled off a real Kresta there!

[MR666]

:( videos on IRC site will not play for me.

Was great to watch stage 1 & 2 live, due to time zone had to get some sleep and not watch the others lol

[6789]

Mikkelsen Crash coverage from Eurosport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61qSvD1_1I

[Mirek]

Crash day on Saint Bonnet: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11626

[PLuto]

Some photos from crashes on St Bonnet - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11626

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/4a55b3117ad15bd80d03273f72c39f3d.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/f5b16bad8257df53f61f089fcd815bc3.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/1a662f7ee3ed1b344312e2c4725f4eab.jpg

[Mitch555]

Watched the first three stages on tv last night (via stream) with a few mates. We had our own little Monte party last night, however, didn't even get to see Atkinson at all pretty much, most annoyed. However, really loved the coverage from Eurosport and Rally Radio, including the much cooler virtual spectator! Be interesting to see how Solberg goes now he has started to get used to the car, but also the big shock for me was Delecour near the front, excellent work by the old master. Will be watching again tonight, bugger the WRC now, IRC FTW!!!

[PLuto]

Photogallery of Miroslav Knedla from first day: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11627

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/19e7f649767826b49889f8e1b818f855.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c84e2c6043ab99ab140e2f31bd2d46bf.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/077806de23e5faf778e0af904d63f468.jpg

[PLuto]

Photogallery of Roman Kasparek from first day: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11628

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/6107f75d6317dfea8b3b56a7891ab937.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/bbbb79699ac1cda6caf1415b309cf95d.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/2e26d9bf1bf9054cf90e3cc5e0aedc95.jpg

[PLuto]

And also video from first day made by Nedbis - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11629

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1220&fotograf=7&all=1

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1220&fotograf=10&all=1

[Sulland]

Tight fight btw the Clio R3, DS3 R3T and Pug 207 R3T.

That promises for a exiting 2wd IRC in 2011.

[RS]

Weather forecast for today?

Juho looked like he was having a lot of fun yesterday. Should be another interesting day today; let's see if Petter can get more from the 207, he looked like he was pushing pretty hard.

[Sulland]

Weather forecast for today?

Juho looked like he was having a lot of fun yesterday. Should be another interesting day today; let's see if Petter can get more from the 207, he looked like he was pushing pretty hard.

Petter needs a higher 6th gear ! almost 10 km/h topspeed difference is a lot, when they are maxing out for longer periods.

[piquet20]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zOMqoGotQ&feature=player_profilepage

[bluuford]

Weather forecast for today?

Juho looked like he was having a lot of fun yesterday. Should be another interesting day today; let's see if Petter can get more from the 207, he looked like he was pushing pretty hard.

Unfortunately I do not have time to make new weather prediction, but quick look says that there should plenty of white stuff and temperature on minus side on most of today stages. Luckily the wind is not as strong as initially expected.

[Sulland]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zOMqoGotQ&feature=player_profilepage

Did they change something in the rear diff, to address this issue with slow top speed ?

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/829/829_rally_monte_carlo_60a166d545.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/829/829_rally_monte_carlo_650f8dffb6.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/829/829_rally_monte_carlo_275271281b.jpg

More photos from Monte HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=829&fseason=2011) ;)

[Sulland]

Where do we find videostreams today ?

[Mitch555]

mypremium.tv for the second telecast for english, however still trying to find one for the first as its not on the UK Stream :/

[René]

http://www.fromsport.com/c-10.html

[nr7wave]

Petter needs a higher 6th gear ! almost 10 km/h topspeed difference is a lot, when they are maxing out for longer periods.

Is it so that the Peugeot has a different kind of gearbox than Skoda and Ford? If so, could that be the reason for the difference in top speed? Not just the difference in choosing a gearbox with high vs. low gearing? I suspect that the Peugeot with high gearing would loose a lot to the Skoda in the twisty sections we saw yesterday, where Petter was the quickest driver in both passings.

[Mitch555]

Actually I misread the times. mypremium.tv will still have both telecasts at 12:15 (Eurosport 2) and 16:00 (Eurosport 1), though the site is being a little dodgy at the moment...

[6789]

Still should work once the stage is live

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/rally-monte-carlo/2011/rallye-monte-carlo-day-1_vid162616/irc-player.shtml

[RS]

Is it so that the Peugeot has a different kind of gearbox than Skoda and Ford? If so, could that be the reason for the difference in top speed? Not just the difference in choosing a gearbox with high vs. low gearing? I suspect that the Peugeot with high gearing would loose a lot to the Skoda in the twisty sections we saw yesterday, where Petter was the quickest driver in both passings.

Exactly, if you put longer gears on to achieve higher top speed then you will lose some in acceleration. I believe the Skoda can run higher top speeds without sacrificing too much acceleration because it has a very torquey engine.

[dimviii]

live is up!

[N.O.T]

Solberg is the sole peugeot driver that went for soft tyres for todays stages...lets see.

[Salist]

Hello guys!

[ttiirika]

I am not able to watch any live steams. Could someone tell me what kind of weather conditions there are at the moment. Thanks.

[Salist]

http://mypremium.tv/

[hari]

Cold Temperatures (-5 at the start).
But according to tv no ice on the stage, only some frost.

[Salist]

Click on "British Eurosport 2" play button

[N.O.T]

the weather very similar to yesterday....but much colder around 0 degrees...no snow/ice

[ttiirika]

Thank you. All these streams are blocked in this computer. They might think that I would need to work instead...

[N.O.T]

at the finish there is snow on the side of the raod...and -6 C

[gregwrc]

at the finish there is snow on the side of the raod...and -6 C

the real monte carlo now begins.......

YG ΕΛΑ ΡΕ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ........

[nr7wave]

Good opening split from Solberg.

[AndyRAC]

Solberg seems to be really pushing.......

[SkodaSRT]

Solberg is flying!!

[Salist]

Great time from Petter!

[N.O.T]

yeah...the skodas stronger engine is giving an advantage. Its obvious now.... Hanninen 0.2 faster than peter.

[Salist]

0,2s...

[6789]

This Eurosport chick knows nothing.. Very close stage

[RS]

Impressive driving from Solberg on SS5, but the top 7 times were pretty close for a 23km stage!

[dimviii]

Campana lost alot,, what problem anybody knows?

[Sulland]

Delecour saying; "Not an easy car to learn"
That is what is making the S2000 so special, it is so unforgiving and a small mistake will take some time from you.

Lets hope the new WRCs are a bit closer to the S2000 NA, but unfortunately I doubt it !!!

[mm1]

Peter up to 2nd

[RS]

That seemed to be a Peugeot stage.

[Bartek]

Bouffier is very fast! I think he will move to 4 or maybe 3 place at the finish. Go Bryan!!

[morganmilan]

A bit surprised for citroen DS3 R3T times, against old 2WD cars as Peugeot 207 R3T for example. Citroens not as fast as I expected. Is Ancian a especially fast driver?

[Hartusvuori]

Nice to see Bouffier set the fastest time. Do you see a bit of surprise in Solberg's appearance? He's definitely enjoying the rally and getting faster every stage, as it should be with a new car and class. Loix also looked as if he hadn't gave his all just yet. Interesting rally, very.

Would be also very interesting to see Bouffier in a DS3 WRC this year.

[Sulland]

A bit surprised for citroen DS3 R3T times, against old 2WD cars as Peugeot 207 R3T for example. Citroens not as fast as I expected. Is Ancian a especially fast driver?

But that is good, to see that the R3T formula have cars that are equally competitive, is it not ?

[RS]

Good to see Vouilloz has picked up the pace after a slow start but I hope Loix can find a bit more pace this afternoon. Again on SS6 very close times!

[morganmilan]

Definitely, it´s, Sulland

[mm1]

RS - where is Vouilloz time in SS6?

[morganmilan]

12.57.7, fifth best time

[mm1]

Ok then, where are you looking at results, I was looking in the official acm.mc site, and there was no sign of him.

[jolle1982]

Pictures Day 1 by rallyefreaks.de

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/monte_1_12_1295527895.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/monte_1_08_1295527894.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/monte_1_27_1295527899.jpg

<<< Pictures Day 1 >>> (http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=67%3Aday-1&Itemid=2)

[Tom206wrc]

No time for Gardemeister whereas he's arrived at stop SS6 :confused:

[HarriK]

But where is Garde?

[morganmilan]

Ok then, where are you looking at results, I was looking in the official acm.mc site, and there was no sign of him.
Try this one:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=2217&stage=15595&category=&group=&section=

[mm1]

Danke

[Wim_Impreza]

A bit surprised for citroen DS3 R3T times, against old 2WD cars as Peugeot 207 R3T for example. Citroens not as fast as I expected. Is Ancian a especially fast driver?

He won the JWRC round in the Tour de Corse last year in his first WRC event.

[Hartusvuori]

No time for Gardemeister on SS6, but there's end-of-stage comments though: "11 - Gardemeister Toni / Tuominen Tomi: "It's very very good today. The car is much more better today, but still we aren't where we want to be.""

[morganmilan]

Danke
Bitte

[Mise]

Few thoughts about the rally.

1. I'd really like to see a Big Gun in a Ford Fiesta.
I guess all the Fiestas are in SWRC.

2. The Second interviewer is nominated to be
"The all time most annoying interviewer." :mad: :D

3. I'd like to see the tension build up on the splits.
Go to incar cam 1 km before the split and do it for every car.
That way we could see different lines and make some comparison.

4. Like to see snow to be able to compare Hänninens speed to Solbergs.

5. Solberg isn't at his best on tarmac, is he.
Has he won any WRC tarmac event.

6. Fiesta goes 169 km/h as well.

[Tom206wrc]

A bit surprised for citroen DS3 R3T times, against old 2WD cars as Peugeot 207 R3T for example. Citroens not as fast as I expected. Is Ancian a especially fast driver?


Ancian is driving a 207 "dressed into" a DS3 ;)
The evo 2011 Pug uses part of the latest Cit :p :

Nice times also by Adrien Tambay, son of former F1 driver Patrick, whereas he debuted in rallying late last year :eek: :up:

[morganmilan]

He won the JWRC round in the Tour de Corse last year in his first WRC event.
Thnx Wim