The All Danica ALL the Time Thread

[beachbum]

22rd, 17 laps down, lapped by lap 50. When you block in NASCAR someone will move you. Um, ya know Danica, it really is "like a technique".

Steve Wallace did spin her, but when you are 15+ laps down and really slow, you don't turn you car right down to the race line in front of lead lap cars, especially Wallace. Early in the race, she really chopped Nemechek and then almost put him in the wall. Amazingly, ESPN showed her move on a highlights replay late in the race. Nemechek made an obvious statement when he pinched her to the wall a few laps later. Sean Caisse called her out after the "big one" for going 4 wide at one point. ESPN was showing her in car with Shelby Howard chasing when she was back in 25th or so. He was catching her 2-3 car lengths in the turns, but the Hendrick HP would pull him a like amount on the straightaway even though he got a better exit. When he did get around (by shoving her high in the middle of the turn), he disappeared.

It takes a lot of blocking and wandering all over the track to irritate the field fillers like Nemechek who just put in laps hoping for a finish. At this rate, she will have half the field mad at her by the end of the year (if they aren't already). This ain't no Cotillion Danica. These "boys" play rough.

She is sure making friends in NASCAR.

[Easy Drifter]

I wish I could get the races up here in the Great White North. (There was 10cm. of snow 25 K from here on Fri. We got none. Today +15c.)
Actually even if I could I was sitting outside with a good friend (and ex) at a fire all afternoon.
When I wrote my article on her a few weeks ago I pulled my punches as it was for general consumption, not just us gearheads.
I might do another article at the end of her season in the taxi cabs. I will have to see what my publisher says. If I do I will not sugarcoat anything.

[TURN3]

If I do I will not sugarcoat anything.

And become an absolute icon of your own right in the process. My hero! The general fan needs to know they are being ripped off by this fraud. They put people in jail for less. What does a NASCAR ticket cost? $50? Multiply that by each fan that goes to see her and you have a good amount of money being stolen on false pretense.

[TURN3]

Not to rain on the parade, however this is the IndyCar board and not the NASCAR one. Danica's stock car exploits, or lack thereof, should be explored over on that forum and not here. Slorydn1 can have all the fun then.

I was under the impression this was the "ALL DANICA" thread. She's an Indycar driver so it seems to me as long as it is about Danica it is on topic and should be considered appropriate.

[Scotty G.]

If she'd been a go-or-go homer, she'd have been going home.

I find it interesting that she will be racing in the first 4 Nationwide races in 2011. That means that she's going to have to keep it in the top 30 in points all by herself from Daytona onward. What are the odds?


They'll put a real driver in her car (like they did this year) to help her keep her top 35 spot, once she takes off for her day job.

BTW, anybody notice how another true NASCAR rookie in Brad Sweet did this weekend? He was running very strong, in the top 15 for the first half of the race before he got caught up in a accident.

Not bad for one of those inferior American USAC oval track grads.

[beachbum]

I was under the impression this was the "ALL DANICA" thread. She's an Indycar driver so it seems to me as long as it is about Danica it is on topic and should be considered appropriate.Is Danica an Indy Car driver, a NASCAR driver, both, neither? For the moment, Indy Car still seems stuck with her as she will be full time in Indy Car at least one more year.

Most of the NASCAR forums are starting to dismiss her anyway. At the start of the year, she had a bit of buzz on those forums. Now, not even a hum.

[beachgirl]

They'll put a real driver in her car (like they did this year) to help her keep her top 35 spot, once she takes off for her day job.

BTW, anybody notice how another true NASCAR rookie in Brad Sweet did this weekend? He was running very strong, in the top 15 for the first half of the race before he got caught up in a accident.

Not bad for one of those inferior American USAC oval track grads.

In Nationwide, it's top 30. And if you come into the season Top 30, you only get guaranteed start in the first 5 of the new year. Then you have to keep yourself in the top 30 week by week. So, if she can't keep herself in the Top 30 through the first 4 races, somebody else is going to have to work mighty hard in one race.

However, there are a lot of start-and-parks in Nationwide, so she might be able to keep it Top 30, even hanging around at the back.

[Steve-o]

Most popular driver, six years running. Goes to show you 1 win and 19 top 5's really moves the needle.

Or it's the long black tresses and bikinis...I am not so sure. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)

http://www.fanviewpoint.com/2010/10/danica-patrick-named-izod-series-most.html

[beachgirl]

Most popular driver, six years running. Goes to show you 1 win and 19 top 5's really moves the needle.

Or it's the long black tresses and bikinis...I am not so sure. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)

http://www.fanviewpoint.com/2010/10/danica-patrick-named-izod-series-most.html

I vote for the long black hair and the bikinis. It's kind of like the Miss America pageant. If you don't quite cut it on talent and speaking ability, but still have the looks and the bod you're willing to flash, you end up being voted Miss Congeniality.

[Steve-o]

I vote for the long black hair and the bikinis. It's kind of like the Miss America pageant. If you don't quite cut it on talent and speaking ability, but still have the looks and the bod you're willing to flash, you end up being voted Miss Congeniality.

well said

[beachgirl]

Princess is up at bat again this weekend.

[Easy Drifter]

And with Edmonton gone off the IC Schedule she will have one less street/road course to complain about.

[Jag_Warrior]

Is Danica an Indy Car driver, a NASCAR driver, both, neither? For the moment, Indy Car still seems stuck with her as she will be full time in Indy Car at least one more year.

Most of the NASCAR forums are starting to dismiss her anyway. At the start of the year, she had a bit of buzz on those forums. Now, not even a hum.

These days, it seems that she's most often being introduced as an "elite NASCAR driver".

Many/most long time NASCAR fans seem to be dismissing her as an overhyped PR creation. But I'm finding that there are delusional Danicamaniacs almost everywhere. They travel in packs and attack without warning. Their favorite strategy is to use hyperbole and put words in the mouths of Danica's critics (strawmen arguments are common). With these people one can expect to be called a chauvinist, a misogynist and a caveman as soon as they realize that you do not worship at the alter of The Princess. And when they claim that Danica is "the most successful female in the history of motorsport", if you bring up Shirley Muldowney, Angelle Sampey, Michelle Mouton or Desiree Wilson, they go quiet and run away. At any cost, they'll also avoid recognizing the FACT that both Kathreine Legge and Simona de Sivestro won professional races in Atlantics... and Simona darn near took the championship.

My gripe with Danica was, and continues to be, that SUCH a big deal is being made about a driver who has but a single professional level win in a decade plus long career. Ashely Force tends to win more races in a single NHRA season than Danica will probably EVER win... even if she races til she's 50. But Ashley doesn't pose in a bikini or make racy ads for a fly-by-night internet company. So I'm cheering for the woman who bases her fame on her accomplishments on the track, while the Danicamaniacs cheer for the female who relies on sex appeal and arrives at the track unprepared and too tired to (actually) race the car. And I'm the chauvinist??? Riiiight... :rolleyes:


Danica Patrick: "elite NASCAR driver". So says the Danicamaniacs, so say we all!!! :bounce:

[beachgirl]

Danica Patrick: "elite NASCAR driver". So says the Danicamaniacs, so say we all!!! :bounce:

I guess I have to clean my glasses more often. I thought they were saying "lite NASCAR driver"......like lite beer. Tries to be the real thing, but misses the mark.

[Easy Drifter]

Nice one Beachgirl.
It would be real interesting if IC ended up a Mosport. It won't happen as long as the Toronto race happens.
Danica would probably need a lot of underwear, especially the first time she sees turns two and four. :eek:

[Easy Drifter]

You may be right!
Two is more intimidating but 4 (the Chute, which says it all) is technically more difficult.
Two is, of course, totally blind on approach and taken flat out now. A long steeply downhill very slightly banked double apex left turn. You have to set up for the turn and be turning before you can actually see it. It is so steeply downhill the effect is reverse camber despite the slight banking.
The Chute is also taken flat out and again is a long steeply downhill left, although not nearly as long as two. Like two you have to be turning before you see the turn. The compression as you reach the bottom and over the creek is immense. Then steeply uphill into Moss. You can brake later than you would expect because the climb is so steep. The first part of Moss is a hard right with the track going level at the apex so the car tends to get light. Easy to make a mistake. The compression and the hard braking for Moss make 4 difficult to master.
In both I would expect Indy cars to be doing 150 to 160 mph.
8 and 10 are the only major turns that are not at least partially blind.

[Easy Drifter]

Huge field 51 cars for 43 spots. She is in on points though. Has been pretty quick in practice but qualifying may be different.
The one in car bit I heard had her say--- wait for it--- 'It's loose.'
Surprise surprise.

[Shifter]

The one in car bit I heard had her say--- wait for it--- 'It's loose.'
Surprise surprise.

They'll fix that, and then she'll say 'it's slow.'

[Easy Drifter]

During the race if she keeps hugging the bottom line when being lapped, as she is likely to do, she will soon be having a discussion with the safer barrier.
At this point in the season the 'boys' are playing rough quickly.
There is too much at stake for them to give her the leeway they did early in the season.

[beachgirl]

Particularly since she shows so little improvement from earlier in the year. Which was dismal to begin with.

There's no doubt she can qualify well - lone car on the track, one or two fast laps. It's the work during the race that is so sadly lacking.

[Scotty G.]

"I've come close to winning that race a few times in the past"


This was Princess's priceless and clueless quote today at Texas, about her Indy 500 history.

What the hell is she smoking, if she actually thinks she has come close to actually winning the Indy 500?

Guess what toots... getting the lead at Indy late in 2005 on fuel strategy and then falling like a rock to 4th place, is NOT coming close to winning the damn race. If that was actually true, then Jaques Lazier could say the same thing in 2007, when he led some laps on fuel strategy and if it had rained, could have conceivably won the race.

She might think some in NASCAR don't actually know anything about her exploits as a driver and can spout those blatant lies to them, but even they are smarter then that.

[beachbum]

This was Princess's priceless and clueless quote today at Texas, about her Indy 500 history.

What the hell is she smoking, if she actually thinks she has come close to actually winning the Indy 500?

Guess what toots... getting the lead at Indy late in 2005 on fuel strategy and then falling like a rock to 4th place, is NOT coming close to winning the damn race. If that was actually true, then Jaques Lazier could say the same thing in 2007, when he led some laps on fuel strategy and if it had rained, could have conceivably won the race.

She might think some in NASCAR don't actually know anything about her exploits as a driver and can spout those blatant lies to them, but even they are smarter then that.Like many of her fans, Danica lives in a fantasy world.

The NASCAR world (other than ESPN) has pretty much ignored her. Unlike Indy car forums, the NASCAR forums aren't filled with threads about her exploits, basically because she has done nothing in Nationwide, other than run slow and manage to hit something or someone almost every race.

[beachbum]

Particularly since she shows so little improvement from earlier in the year. Which was dismal to begin with.

There's no doubt she can qualify well - lone car on the track, one or two fast laps. It's the work during the race that is so sadly lacking.Well, unlike many races where she was slower than the slowest go-or-go-homer to qualify, she was almost .2 seconds faster than McDowell. Of course, she had a couple MPH more straightaway speed than most and yet was .6 off the pole time. She was able to hold the car flat almost the whole lap, so could it be because the car was really tight? Since this is an impound race, that doesn't bode well for the race.

[TURN3]

This was Princess's priceless and clueless quote today at Texas, about her Indy 500 history.

What the hell is she smoking, if she actually thinks she has come close to actually winning the Indy 500?

Guess what toots... getting the lead at Indy late in 2005 on fuel strategy and then falling like a rock to 4th place, is NOT coming close to winning the damn race. If that was actually true, then Jaques Lazier could say the same thing in 2007, when he led some laps on fuel strategy and if it had rained, could have conceivably won the race.

She might think some in NASCAR don't actually know anything about her exploits as a driver and can spout those blatant lies to them, but even they are smarter then that.

Very well put Scotty, we certainly agree here. Lets also not forget how she got on the fuel strategy she was on that year too...yep, crashing and taking out 2 or 3 contenders on a restart. Pitting for that new nose is what put her on that strategy to begin with. I've always said how ironic it was that her fame was gained in a race she royally screwed up so badly.

[SarahFan]

Very well put Scotty, we certainly agree here. Lets also not forget how she got on the fuel strategy she was on that year too...yep, crashing and taking out 2 or 3 contenders on a restart. Pitting for that new nose is what put her on that strategy to begin with. I've always said how ironic it was that her fame was gained in a race she royally screwed up so badly.



If you ever see a replay of the race in question....

Consult your watch and time the pace lap as they change he nose v. The other pace laps throughout the race

[Scotty G.]

And I am not ripping Patrick for her Indy 500 prowess over the years. She has actually had a nice Indy 500 career.

But to say she "has come close to winning the race a few times", is just laughable.

"Coming close" is what Roberto Guerrero did in 1987. Or Marco in 2006. Or even Tomas Scheckter in 2002 (although I wouldn't even call that "coming close").

She has never been "close" to winning that race.

[TURN3]

And I am not ripping Patrick for her Indy 500 prowess over the years. She has actually had a nice Indy 500 career.

But to say she "has come close to winning the race a few times", is just laughable.

"Coming close" is what Roberto Guerrero did in 1987. Or Marco in 2006. Or even Tomas Scheckter in 2002 (although I wouldn't even call that "coming close").

She has never been "close" to winning that race.

Prowess? That might be a little strong. Yes, she has done well at Indy, inexplicably. Maybe because she has been in a top 9 car each and every year she's been there but her lone strength is bringing a car home. In a 500 mile race that is pretty important. There is a lot of luck in there also, the past 2 years in particular. I don't think she's ever made a pass for a top 5 position, outside of the restart her rookie year when she had Honda's trick engine, according to Robert Clarke. She's finished well at Indy and that cannot be taken away. But prowess is something she's not. If I have her in my mirrors behind me, I consider that a buffer to the next car back.

[beachgirl]

Up at bat again this weekend. Motorsport Forum odds are now being taken again.

[beachbum]

Top 20 finish - 50/50 (depends on the number of start-and-parks)
Some contact incident on track - 80%
Stupid interview on ESPN - 99%

[Easy Drifter]

If she finishes --5 laps down
Most likely punted into the wall while blocking.
At 2 bits of blather by ESPN.

[beachgirl]

31st after 1st practice.

[TURN3]

I decided against going out to PIR to ridicule her today. I'm going tomorrow instead. Can't wait to see the NASCAR reaction to somebody calling her out to her face. Indycar fans just sort of laughed and walked by during the heckling at Long Beach last year.

[Easy Drifter]

13th in 2nd practice.
Therefore will qualify either 26th or 39th by projection.
From what little I saw on TV of practice I expect she will have an assist into the wall before half way.

[beachbum]

13th in 2nd practice.
Therefore will qualify either 26th or 39th by projection.
From what little I saw on TV of practice I expect she will have an assist into the wall before half way.13th with a 2 lap mock qualifying run, taped up, loosened up, and new tires. Everyone else was running regular race setups and old tires with the exception of a couple go-or-go homer's trying to find speed. Even though it is an impound race, qualifying setups are worth a few tenths at least.

Her average lap times were near the bottom of the list.

[TURN3]

13th with a 2 lap mock qualifying run, taped up, loosened up, and new tires. Everyone else was running regular race setups and old tires with the exception of a couple go-or-go homer's trying to find speed. Even though it is an impound race, qualifying setups are worth a few tenths at least.

Her average lap times were near the bottom of the list.

It kills me that some people don't recognize how her teams (Indycar and Nationwide) use their tire allotment with her. Its always the same thing, slap a new set on to get her up the time sheets at the end of the final practice. Nationwide in particular, most teams use their tires wisely. There is a reason she's always 30th in the first practice and then pops up around 15th in the final session, followed by a 30th place qualy.

[beachgirl]

It kills me that some people don't recognize how her teams (Indycar and Nationwide) use their tire allotment with her. Its always the same thing, slap a new set on to get her up the time sheets at the end of the final practice. Nationwide in particular, most teams use their tires wisely. There is a reason she's always 30th in the first practice and then pops up around 15th in the final session, followed by a 30th place qualy.

I think it's a team psychological move too. Gives her a false sense of her "abilities" and keeps her from an Indy-sized meltdown. How many times can you cope with a prima donna temper?

[TURN3]

Somebody please explain to me how a "seasoned, elite, top-level, professional" race car driver struggles race after race with a championship caliber team only to have the excuse that they're "learning". Then, for the 2nd week in a row, we see 19 year old kids get into a Nationwide car for the first time in their lives with start-up or one off Nationwide programs...they run just fine.

Damn, 3 cautions now keeping Princess on the lead lap.

[Scotty G.]

Somebody please explain to me how a "seasoned, elite, top-level, professional" race car driver struggles race after race with a championship caliber team only to have the excuse that they're "learning". Then, for the 2nd week in a row, we see 19 year old kids get into a Nationwide car for the first time in their lives with start-up or one off Nationwide programs...they run just fine.



Cole Whitt is more talented and MUCH more verstatile then Danica Patrick. Simple as that.

Whitt is one of those American USAC grads, that Bernard is trying to get back into Indy Car Racing.

I find Princess's "battles" with backmarkers like 98 year old Morgan Shepherd, Tony Raines and that nobody (I literally can't remember his name) in the #27 today, hilarious. She is a trip. :D And a joke.

And she better get used to "getting the bumper". She hasn't earned jack squat as far as respect goes and NOBODY is going to back down from her, when they see the green and black bullseye in front of them. Plus, she better learn to get the hell out of the way, when she is slower then the car trying to pass her. She keeps tearing up equipment, because of this.

[TURN3]

Cole Whitt is more talented and MUCH more verstatile then Danica Patrick. Simple as that.

Whitt is one of those American USAC grads, that Bernard is trying to get back into Indy Car Racing.

I find Princess's "battles" with backmarkers like 98 year old Morgan Shepherd, Tony Raines and that nobody (I literally can't remember his name) in the #27 today, hilarious. She is a trip. :D And a joke.

And she better get used to "getting the bumper". She hasn't earned jack squat as far as respect goes and NOBODY is going to back down from her, when they see the green and black bullseye in front of them. Plus, she better learn to get the hell out of the way, when she is slower then the car trying to pass her. She keeps tearing up equipment, because of this.

I know, she retaliated on the 27 and he didn't even do anything to her. I think her fender damage got caught up in his wheel well. They looked like they got a little locked up because of that...so she rams him. Hell, Torid Tony Raines is the one that got together with her and that was just hard racing. This has been a joke for so long I'm actually starting to get bored with it. She just needs to go away.

By the way, the other kid I was thinking of was Brad Sweet at St. Louis. First time ever in a Nationwide car and he was running top 10 until getting caught up in that front stretch crash. There are a ton of good young talented drivers but these 2 guys in particular get in mid-pack teams for their first race a Nationwide car and they run top 10's. Makes no sense Danica, go away.

[beachgirl]

I know, she retaliated on the 27 and he didn't even do anything to her. I think her fender damage got caught up in his wheel well. They looked like they got a little locked up because of that...so she rams him. Hell, Torid Tony Raines is the one that got together with her and that was just hard racing. This has been a joke for so long I'm actually starting to get bored with it. She just needs to go away.

By the way, the other kid I was thinking of was Brad Sweet at St. Louis. First time ever in a Nationwide car and he was running top 10 until getting caught up in that front stretch crash. There are a ton of good young talented drivers but these 2 guys in particular get in mid-pack teams for their first race a Nationwide car and they run top 10's. Makes no sense Danica, go away.

I've gotten bored with her and her antics, too. DF is now posting on another forum, and if you can believe it, he's even more outlandish and delusional there than he was here. I'm even bored with him, and he was a great source of entertainment for a long time.

In NASCAR, you've got to cultivate on-track racing relationships. You don't have to be "friends" or "buddies" or be on the same team. The racers know who they can, and can't, trust and depend on. She keeps this up, no one will EVER respect, trust, or depend on her. She'll be a loner on that track, and in the garage, for as long as this charade continues. Scotty G has it right - she's a big neon green and black target, and the other racers will continue to use her as target practice. She's gong to need another racer on her side on the track some day soon, and there won't be any.

Go-Daddy must be pumping a LOT of money in the Charade, because she's tearing up a lot of expensive equipment. Parsons must have cubic dollars to keep this up.

Tony Eury, Jr. gave a lot away in his comment that if she finished in the mid 20s and only one lap down, he'd think it was a really good day. With the number of start-and-parkers, the mid 20s was a safe guess, but she wasn't even on target for the only one lap down.

What a joke. I'm rooting for the young guys with 10 times the talent and 1/10 of the equipment.

[beachbum]

Cole Whitt is more talented and MUCH more verstatile then Danica Patrick. Simple as that.

Whitt is one of those American USAC grads, that Bernard is trying to get back into Indy Car Racing.

I find Princess's "battles" with backmarkers like 98 year old Morgan Shepherd, Tony Raines and that nobody (I literally can't remember his name) in the #27 today, hilarious. She is a trip. :D And a joke.

And she better get used to "getting the bumper". She hasn't earned jack squat as far as respect goes and NOBODY is going to back down from her, when they see the green and black bullseye in front of them. Plus, she better learn to get the hell out of the way, when she is slower then the car trying to pass her. She keeps tearing up equipment, because of this.But she is still learning! :D

Absolutely spot on! Oddly enough, she is still racing the same people she has been racing since her first races in Nationwide. She isn't getting any better, contrary to the ESPN cheerleaders. They were all excited when she passed McDowell, who is usually a start and park and running an uncompetitive Dodge of unknown age that can barely make the field. Even Eury, Jr thought the best they could hope for was a top 25 and "only" one lap down. After 12 races, that is pretty sad.

Whatever she has been doing back in the pack (thankfully ESPN no longer dwells on that too much), obviously even the back markers no longer give her ANY respect. After Raines moved her out of the way, even Shepherd roughed her up. When Morgan Shepherd moves you out of the way, you really are a menace. These guys are racers running on no budget who are just trying to make a living and can't afford to fix bodywork. They do everything to avoid contact. But they are professionals and racers at heart. If you don't show them any respect, and chop and block, and wonder all over the track like some of the coverage shows she is doing, eventually they will do something about it. These guys grew up on the bull rings and they understand "physical" racing. Danica apparently thinks she is exempt from the rule to play nice or ........

But she showed them. First she put Alex Kennedy (who?) in the wall just because she was bumped by him. That was ridiculous and really over the top. It was like going after the 98 lb weakling after getting shoved by football star. Then she tried to push Annett out of the way and put herself in the wall. Yeah, she showed them. What a total joke.

Unfortunately, it won't be funny when her antics gets someone hurt. Right now, all she is doing is regularly tapping the deep pockets of GoDaddy and giving body men job security.

I suspect the "Danica" show is really wearing thin in the Nationwide garage. She has crashed or had incidents in every race and seems to have p*ssed off nearly all of the racers she was been driving around. In that respect, she is worse than Steven Wallace. She is the NASCAR version of a cross between Milka Duno and KV racing. Gets in everyone's way, then crashes. Al least Milka is really nice to the people around her.

[beachbum]

If she finishes --5 laps down
Most likely punted into the wall while blocking.
At 2 bits of blather by ESPN.You must be clairvoyant!

7 laps down
Punted herself in the wall after being punted while blocking
More than 2 bits of blather by ESPN

[Easy Drifter]

Finally able to watch a race. For most of the race she puttered around about where she started and thanks to yellows did not go a lap down for quite a while. Even ESPN did not go too gaa ga although they were a little over the top.
However when things got serious near the end the brown stuff hit the fan. She got some 'assistance' and then went after the wrong car. Even her spotter said that was not cool. When she really got nailed as people got fed up she sounded hysterical. I couldn't understand what she was screaming. I will admit my hearing is damaged after 40 years around race cars.
I expect Homestead will be another farce.
Tony must be aging rapidly!!!
I forget who but it was said her car was too tight. Geeeeeez. Imagine that.

[Scotty G.]

I know, she retaliated on the 27 and he didn't even do anything to her.

That guy, must be a total tool.

She looked like she rammed him going about 200 MPH. Totally bushleague and something that should have gotten her parked (she doesn't even know how to put the bumper to someone properly).

Then, this fool has the perfect opportunity to retaliate (after they both pitted together) and he does nothing. If that was just about any real stock car racer, she would have been in the fence ASAP. Kinda like what Buescher (who is also a stock car novice) did to her at Fontana. She kept pushing him and pushing him and he sent her sorry ass into the wall.

[Scotty G.]

With the number of start-and-parkers, the mid 20s was a safe guess, but she wasn't even on target for the only one lap down.




Finishing 25th to 35th every week, is particularly lame because there are only 35 or 36 actual race cars each week in these races. Today, there were 8 start-and-parkers. So, as long as she can make it through the first 30 laps or so, she is guaranteed to finish 35th.

Hell, Ricky Carmichael looks better then her so far. And his 4 wheel racing career isn't exactly a very long one.

These new drivers come into the series (with lower dollar teams/equipment) and they are already better then her. Just think what Cole Whitt will do, when he gets a few races under his belt.

Josh Wise (another USAC grad) was very competitive in the #7 car earlier in the year. Had a few top 10's, if I remember correctly and was consistanly on the lead lap.

She isn't getting any better. She looks no better or no worse then AJ Foyt IV did, when he tried the Nationwide series in 2005 and 2006. He got 11 races and lost his job (when his lower-tier team went under financially). At least Foyt (who had to qualify for every race on time and didn't have the luxury of "start-and-parkers" to help his finishing position) qualfied 11th in his 4th Nationwide race.

At this point, she isn't even doing as well as Erin Crocker did in Nationwide.

And judging by the paltry crowd today (it was really poor), she isn't drawing folks to the race track (or the TV sets).

[beachbum]

Then, this fool has the perfect opportunity to retaliate (after they both pitted together) and he does nothing. If that was just about any real stock car racer, she would have been in the fence ASAP. Kinda like what Buescher (who is also a stock car novice) did to her at Fontana. She kept pushing him and pushing him and he sent her sorry ass into the wall.He showed some class, something she can't even spell. He quite literally can't afford retaliation - on track - and probably knows she doesn't respond to "advice" in the garage.

That is one advantage she has over the other drivers at the back. She has a sugar daddy who can afford to fix wrecked cars. They don't, so when she does something like run Nemechek to the wall, or block drivers like McDowell or even Raines, they aren't likely to do anything about it. If they wreck their car, they may not be back at the track the next week. Some of them don't even have a back up car that is remotely competitive. For them, it isn't playing gladiators, it is a business decision as they are just earning a living. Which is why seeing them move her is almost a shock. For them, it is a very high risk move financially.

Buescher on the other hand has his future father in law to foot the bills as he owns the team (Turner Motorsports). IF (a very unlikely if) she ever gets nearer to the front, she won't find drivers as willing to back off and give her room.

The Princess has not learned that you don't get respect in NASCAR just because of who you think you are, you earn it by your actions and the respect you afford others. You don't see other drivers giving Morgan Shepherd or Nemechek a hard time. They have earned the respect of other racers as drivers who will run you clean. The Princess on the other hand, show respect to no one, and gets the same in return.

And judging by the paltry crowd today (it was really poor), she isn't drawing folks to the race track (or the TV sets).The novelty factor wore off a long time ago. Most NASCAR fans seem to judge her solely on her dismal performance.

[garyshell]

I really can't believe you folks are actually watching her races in the taxi cabs. I'd rather watch paint dry.

Gary

[beachgirl]

I really can't believe you folks are actually watching her races in the taxi cabs. I'd rather watch paint dry.

Gary

I watched NASCAR and Nationwide long before she was involved. I continue to watch in spite of, not because of, her. She's an irritating distraction on the track and on the commentary from the real racing going on.

[Jag_Warrior]

If she finishes --5 laps down
Most likely punted into the wall while blocking.
At 2 bits of blather by ESPN.


You must be clairvoyant!

7 laps down
Punted herself in the wall after being punted while blocking
More than 2 bits of blather by ESPN

Yeah, it's almost scary how he called that one! :eek: I have a PM going his way so we can discuss some lottery numbers.

And I continue to find it "interesting" that the ESPN Zoo Crew never notices Danica wandering around in the middle of the track, and THAT is what has been leading to her getting bounced out of the way recently. But she is getting faster. She's now just fast enough to get in the way of actual stock car drivers. I wonder if GoDaddy pays the ESPN boys with actual cash or gift cards? I bet gift cards. Those are tax deductible. :dozey:

All I know is, my two least favorite drivers in all of motorsports got their ears totally pinned back this weekend: The Danica and Alonso. Maybe it's bad that I can revel in the misery of others. But ya gotta take any little bits of happiness that you can get these days. :p :

[DanicaFan]

I dont know why Im here but I actually read this thread for the first time, it is absolutely ridiculous.

All you do is bash Danica for no reason and undeserving.

First off as for the last race, yes Tony Raines car accidentally cut Danica's tire but what Alex Kennedy did to her later was completely uncalled for. She bumped him back but it was deserving. Just earlier to that, Alex was on the inside of her car constantly pushing her out to outside of the track for no reason. He was bumping and pushing her for quite awhile and that was completely uncalled for and preventable.

When Danica bumped him back, she did just fine, she didnt cause him to wreck but was just letting him know that all that contact he did to her was unnecessary.

She is still learning these cars and she will be the first to tell you that. You wait till next season and she will be finishing very respectable.. Top 10's and higher!

[beachgirl]

I dont know why Im here but I actually read this thread for the first time, it is absolutely ridiculous.

All you do is bash Danica for no reason and undeserving.



So why are you here, if it's such a ridiculous thread?

All you do is slobber over Danica for no reason and undeserving.

[SoCalPVguy]

I dont know why Im here but I actually read this thread for the first time, it is absolutely ridiculous.

All you do is bash Danica for no reason and undeserving.

First off as for the last race, yes Tony Raines car accidentally cut Danica's tire but what Alex Kennedy did to her later was completely uncalled for. She bumped him back but it was deserving. Just earlier to that, Alex was on the inside of her car constantly pushing her out to outside of the track for no reason. He was bumping and pushing her for quite awhile and that was completely uncalled for and preventable.

When Danica bumped him back, she did just fine, she didnt cause him to wreck but was just letting him know that all that contact he did to her was unnecessary.

She is still learning these cars and she will be the first to tell you that. You wait till next season and she will be finishing very respectable.. Top 10's and higher!

Thank you DF for coming into this thread !!!! You are post No. 301 !!!!! In my wildest dreams I never thought this would get over 100. Now with your ridiculous defensive response, we are sure to get upwards of 400!!!! Thank you, DF.

[Easy Drifter]

From what I saw she was driving sort of mid low on the track almost all the time.
Difficult for someone to get under her but high enough to make passing on the high side difficult, especially with the power her car has.
Eventually people were going to get under her and once they did inevitably she was going for a ride.
Holmestead being longer and wider it may not happen but I suspect it will towards the end of the race. These guys will not put up with her blocking.

[TURN3]

I dont know why Im here but I actually read this thread for the first time, it is absolutely ridiculous.

All you do is bash Danica for no reason and undeserving.

First off as for the last race, yes Tony Raines car accidentally cut Danica's tire but what Alex Kennedy did to her later was completely uncalled for. She bumped him back but it was deserving. Just earlier to that, Alex was on the inside of her car constantly pushing her out to outside of the track for no reason. He was bumping and pushing her for quite awhile and that was completely uncalled for and preventable.

When Danica bumped him back, she did just fine, she didnt cause him to wreck but was just letting him know that all that contact he did to her was unnecessary.

She is still learning these cars and she will be the first to tell you that. You wait till next season and she will be finishing very respectable.. Top 10's and higher!

Go away! Much like the lack of need for Danica to be on a race track with professionals, we also lack the need for your childish and retarded claims about her. She sucks, she's always sucked, and she will always suck. The only thing she's good for is to get a good discussion going about how bad she sucks. And she sucks real bad so we have lots to talk about how bad she absolutely sucks.

BTW, Brad Sweet and Cole Whitt didn't have too tough of times "learning" these cars now did they? Don't answer that, just go away.

BTW part 2, God did not create Danica on the 8th day. But, on the 9th day he did create the idiot that thought he created her on the 8th day.